##This is a spoiler thread.
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There is no need to hold back on spoilers or the inevitable cut content.
We are finally here...Excellent. This is when Arc 6 becomes legendary, my only regret about this arc is that I wish I was an anime only.
###Crunchyroll - Season 4 Ep 7
##これはネタバレスレです。
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ネタバレやカットされた内容については遠慮する必要はありません。
ついにここまで来たか…素晴らしい。これは第六章が伝説になる瞬間だ。この章で唯一後悔しているのは、アニメしか見ていない身でいられることだな。
###Crunchyroll - 第4期 第7話考察くん
IAmSona
I love you Tappei, lol
まあ、タッペイは好きだよ。悪くない。ドライおじ
Knight0706
Our beloved author
まじでそれな!作者さま最高すぎじゃん!笑ギャル
Mas_Kun_J
He torment everyone equally, I suppose
あいつはみんなに平等に苦しみを与えるんだな、と普通くん
HellFireGod
seems about right
まあそういうもんだよな。ドライおじ
MedicalAsparagus875
Tappei really is saying ***our*** trauma, isn't he?
長月ってほんと俺たちのトラウマを代弁してるよな普通くん
Setowi
Man that entire start of the balcony scene with "since no one else is here let's talk" gets so much fucking funnier now that we know those birds were send by fucking Pandora of all people and she is listening to every word they speak.
Subaru is freaking lucky as heck that he didn't reveal anything to Ana since I suppose Pandora would have been VERY interested in those things as well lmao.
あのバルコニーシーン冒頭の「誰もいないし話そう」ってやつ、今となってはめちゃくちゃ笑えるな。あの鳥たち、まさかのパンドラが送り込んでたっていうのが判明したからな。つまり彼女は全部聞いてたってことだ。
スバル、アナスタシアに何も暴露しなかったのは本当に運が良かったと思う。もし知られてたら、パンドラもその情報にめちゃくちゃ興味持ってたはずだしな(笑)。考察くん
Archensix
I also found it funny that the birds just fuck off the moment Julius shows up, like she's saying "oh this worthless background character is here now, guess I'll go do something else"
笑ったわ。ユリウスが来た瞬間鳥たちがさっさと逃げたのマジで草。「あ、このモブが来たからもういいや」って言ってるみたいでしょw感情くん
Akudra
Nah, in context, she was totally messing with them as she guided Julius there too with another bird. It was more like her throwing a match on the powder keg and getting out of there fast.
いやいや、あの流れだと完全に仕掛けてただけじゃん!ジュリアスも別の鳥で誘導してたし笑 まじで火薬庫にマッチ投げつけて速攻逃げたって感じだよね〜ギャル
Outrageous-Most-9427
That’s hilarious, Pandora just likes starting shit.
パンドラただのトラブルメーカーだな、笑えるわ。普通くん
Eunuchest
>balcony song with "since no one else is here let's talk" gets so much fucking funnier now that we know those birds were send by fucking Pandora of all people and she is listening to every word they speak.
It wasnt a coincidence?
草ァ!あのバルコニーで「誰もいないし話そうぜ」って言ってたシーン、今思うとガチで笑えるわwww
あの鳥、まさかのパンドラの差し金だったとかマジかよ。全部聞かれてたんか…
偶然じゃなかったってことか?2ちゃん
Setowi
Check my other reply I explain it there.
我が回答の別の場所に、その真理を記したのだ。探し求めるがいい。中二病
Edsterrr
I assume Pandora
Knows everything going on in the story
パンドラは物語の全てを知ってるんだろうね普通くん
Freenore
原文
There's a lot of "who.or what kickstarted the machinary for these people?" in Re Zero. How did Echidna's spirit reach Anastasia to begin with? Who was Meili working for? Who is behind Puck reaching Emilia? Why did all of the Sin Archbishops attack at the same time and is it a mere coincidence that every RS candidate was present for it? This Tower is a mystery in itself, including its permanent resident Shaula.
There's so much going on that remains at the margins of the story, purposefully of course, that I'm sure there's some grand plan that will change how we look at the whole story, sort of like Attack on Titan and the reveal by the end of third season.
我が目に映るRe:Zeroの世界、その片隅には常に「誰が、何が、歯車を動かしたのか」という謎が潜んでいるのだ。エキドナの意思は如何にしてアナスタシアに宿ったのか?メィリィは誰の手先だったのか?パックとエミリアの邂逅の裏に潜むものは?大罪司教たちが同時に襲来し、その場に王選候補者全員が集うのは、果たして偶然なのか。いや、この塔そのものが謎の塊、その番人シャウラもまた然り。
物語の片隅に潜むこれら全ての断片――我は確信している。これらはやがて一つの壮大な運命の輪となり、我々の世界観を根底から覆すだろう。まるで進撃の巨人の第三期終盤、あの真実の啓示のごとくにな。中二病
Spiritual-Aide-51
What I found curious since the season 3 trailer was the inclusions of the doves. And now they choose the exact same design for this adapted chapter. Regarding the adaption I feelt it lacked the suspense I feelt reading it the first time
確かに鳩のデザイン、S3のPVからずっと気になってたんだよね。今回のアニメでも同じデザインを採用してるのが興味深い。ただ、原作で最初に読んだ時の緊張感はアニメだと薄れてた気がするな。普通くん
Setowi
I quite enjoyed the atmosphere.
雰囲気すげえ良かったわ2ちゃん
Akudra
Yeah, but they cut a lot of the bits. A lot of the stuff where she was showing Witch of Greed vibes was cut and they completely cut the part where he referenced the bunnies. There wasn't as much built up regarding her suspicion towards Subaru either.
確かにカット多かったね。エキドナが見せる貪欲の魔女感あるシーンとか、うさぎの話に触れる場面もまるごと消えてたし。スバルへの疑いの積み重ねももっと描かれてたのに、そこも薄くなった感じ。普通くん
NarvaezIII
Ah shit. I'm only sorta caught up on the web novels: arc 10 but paused some where in the first 6 chapters; is this in the main story or some side story?
おっと、某はweb小説を中途半端に追いかけておるのだが、arc 10の最初の6章あたりで止まっておる。これは本筋の話か、それとも外伝でござるか?武士
Akudra
It was in the side story covering Meili's trip to the Watchtower with Reinhard and Felt.
メィリィがラインハルトとフェルトと一緒に監視塔に行くサイドストーリーに載ってたやつやな2ちゃん
Diabloblaze28
So you know which volume it was on would like to read it I've been on the WN and haven't read any SS at all
どの巻にあたるか知ってる?読んでみたいんだよね。今までWEB版は読んだけど、SSは全然読んだことないんだ。普通くん
Akudra
I did pick up on the bit where the birds were shifting eyes from "Ana" to Subaru. They were definitely hinting at the spy bird angle.
あ、あの鳥の目がアナからスバルに移ってたシーンやばくね!?まじでスパイ鳥の伏線だったじゃん!ギャル
HellFireGod
i can't wait to see the anime-only theories about the ending
アニメ勢が最終回についてどんな考察するのか、めっちゃ楽しみだな普通くん
JACKTODAMAX
Anime only here. I genuinely have no idea what could have caused this to occur other than some kind of sabotage from one of the people in the group (Anastasia and Meili are both suspect)
マジでわかんないんだけど!?アニメ勢なんだけどさ、これって絶対グループの中の誰かがやったんじゃね?てかアナスタシアとメィリィが怪しすぎるんだけど笑ギャル
FjordTheDuck
Me thinks (also anime only) that maybe, is it Flugle? Like, he was also isekaid into another world, and got skerplunked into Subaru’s body just now after something Subaru did? Or maybe Subaru is just in his schizo era and is fucking with everyone.
もしかしてフリューゲルじゃない?あいつも異世界転生者だし、スバルが何かやったせいで今彼の体に乗り移ったとか?それかスバルがただの統失期に入っててみんなを混乱させてるだけかもな。普通くん
MedicalAsparagus875
why are you in this thread if you're anime onlys? Trust me, you don't want to get spoiled for this arc.
なぜアニメオンリーの者がこのスレにおるのじゃ?申すまでもなく、この章のネタバレは受けたくあるまい。某の言葉を信じるがよい。武士
iheartnjdevils
I normally spoil myself with anime reading wiki's and such but you don't want the rest to be spoiled yet. So get outta here!! (Kidding of course, this is my fav arc and seeing anime only reactions has me even more hyped if that's as possible.)
普段はwikiとかでアニメのネタバレ見ちゃうタイプなんだけど、まだ先はネタバレされたくないんだよね。だから出てけ!!(もちろん冗談だけど、これ俺の一番好きな章で、アニメ勢のリアクション見るとさらにテンション上がるんだよね)普通くん
MeenaBubbles
I think either something to do with the books, gluttony is fucking around somewhere, an unknown rule was broken, or subaru fell down the stairs
多分本関係か、暴食がどっかで暴れてるか、知らんルール破っちゃったか、スバルが階段から落ちたかだなw まじかよwwwwwwおじ
ZedLa04
I think he hit his head in the toilet again
またトイレで頭ぶつけたんじゃないかな普通くん
MeenaBubbles
Classic subaru
まじでスバルらしすぎじゃん!笑 やっぱあのキャラはそういうとこだよね〜ギャル
MANOMANEIRAO
So Down D. Stairs attacked again
ダウンD.階段また暴れたんかwww2ちゃん
DankMemeCentral24
Idk the ending was a little too short I’m afraid ppl will think Subaru is just being goofy. There was no real indication of a change, besides the eye glare?
確かに終わり方ちょっと短かったな。みんなにスバルがただバカやってるだけって思われそうで怖い。あの目つき以外に変化がわかる要素がなかったしね。普通くん
VMelain
hair, expressions and tone were all changed
マジで髪型も表情も雰囲気も全部変わっててやばくない!?ギャル
iheartnjdevils
I thought his look was done perfectly with the lack of inner dialogue about his confusion. In fact, my teen (who's an anime only, damn kid didn't inherit my love of reading lol), immediately said, "He looks... weird." the moment he sat up.
確かに、あの表情の演出は秀逸だった。内面の混乱を台詞で説明せず、視覚情報だけで観客に伝える手法は、アニメーションとして非常に洗練されていると言える。特に、彼が起き上がった瞬間の違和感——これは死に戻りによる時間軸のズレがキャラクターの行動に与える影響を、制作陣が意図的に表現したものだと思われる。考察くん
SOGblack
The title will is there
「タイトルが『意志』になってる…エモすぎるッ!」感情くん
ClownDance
Shaula's "master" Subaru is back ?
シャウラの「お師様」スバルが帰ってきたのか?普通くん
PM_DEM_AREOLAS
He HAD to have switched with Reid or something maybe not that exactly it some sort of bet with him were my immediate guesses.
マジでレイドと入れ替わったんじゃね?って思ったんだけど笑 正確にはわかんないけど、なんかレイドと賭けでもしたんじゃないかなって最初は直感で思ったんだよね〜ギャル
Kindly_Bee51
I think he’s about to repeatedly learn what Return by Death is, again. And because that looks like his new checkpoint, he can’t reset back to before he lost his memories.
確かに、また死に戻りを繰り返し思い知らされることになりそうだね。しかもあれが新しいチェックポイントっぽいから、記憶を失う前には戻れないってことか。普通くん
Immediate-Strike6775
At the last second of the ep it shows shaula tearing a book I think she tore subaru's book that's why he lost his memory
最後の一秒でシャウラが本を破ってた!あれがスバルの本だったんじゃない?だから記憶失ったのか…しんどすぎるッ!!感情くん
strelok__halfer
Congratulation with Season 1 everyone!
シーズン1おめでとう!普通くん
Thatoneguywhois-sad
I don’t know what ice was saying, this was a good episode.
え?!氷が何言ってたかは知らんけど、今回の話普通に良かったじゃん!なんで文句言う人いるんだよ〜感情くん
Knight0706
I mean it wasn’t terribly exciting but it was well animated and kicks off our arc 6 spiral
Thats more than enough for me because I feast off the reactions of my friends but I can see why it might not be a favorite
まあめちゃくちゃ面白いってわけじゃなかったけど、作画は良かったし、6章の展開が始まった感じだね。
俺は友達のリアクション見るのが好きだからこれで十分だけど、人気作にならない理由も分かるわ。普通くん
Beginning-Hope-2600
原文
I really like these more conversation-based episodes, even if they don't have as many mind-breaking events or action. They did a good job with the Eridna-Subaru-Julius conversation which is the real meat here. Eridna questioning Subaru about who he is was especially good, and hit exactly as it should've, even if it's not as exciting as what comes after. The ending was obviously the big hook with this one, but part of the reason why is because you have the emotiona turmoil right beforehand and it seems like that was conveyed effectively.
確かに、派手な展開やアクションが少なくても、会話ベースのエピソードは深みがあって良いよね。今回のエキドナ・スバル・ユリウスの会話はまさに本質を突いてたと思う。特にエキドナがスバルに「お前は誰だ」と問いかけるシーンは秀逸で、後の展開への伏線としても機能している。その直前に感情的な混乱をしっかり描いたからこそ、ラストのフックがより一層引き立ったという考察ができる。制作陣の構成力が光る回だな。考察くん
Kogasa_Komeiji
i respect his work for the community but he has some really bad takes sometimes 😭
彼のコミュニティへの貢献は尊敬してるんだけど、時々マジでヤバい意見言うんだよな😭普通くん
LostEffective6699
his tier lists are genuinely some of the worst images ever posted on to the Internet lmao
この人のティアリスト、ネットに投稿された中でもマジでヤバいレベルでクソじゃね?笑ギャル
Kogasa_Komeiji
as a diehard petra fan - well said
also i have no idea what on earth he saw in ex 6 i was expecting something really cool but that book was extremely mid
ペトラファンとしては激しく同意するわッ!
あとEX6のどこに惹かれたのか全く理解できない。めっちゃカッコいい展開を期待してたのに、めっちゃ普通の本だった...感情くん
Logical_Ad_1508
He meant the ending of the episode espefically.
特に最終回のラストのこと言ってんだろwwwwおじ
Former-Measurement-9
I mean that’s how it felt in the novels as well
It came out of nowhere
小説でもそんな感じだったよ
急すぎる展開だよね普通くん
Letsplay_Sascha_GD
It’s exactly as I envisioned it when I read it for the first time. When I learned of Ices opinion I could not imagine how this part could be executed badly. This being all quiet and nonchalant is the best way to adapt this moment in my opinion.
初めて原作を読んだ時から、まさにこう描かれるべきだと思っていた。アイスの意見を知ってから、このパートが下手に映像化されるとは想像できなかった。この静かで淡々とした演出こそ、この場面を最も適切に表現しているという考察ができる。考察くん
Klutzy_Ad9306
That shit was haunting. I actually got sick after that. I have never felt that sense of "heart down my throat" moment in a while for re:zero. Bro literally has the restart from zero...IN THE MIDDLE OF A JOURNEY. He has no understanding of why hes there, or who the hell those people are. These next few episodes are going to be a meat grinder....
あれは本当にトラウマものだったわ。見終わった後、実際に気分悪くなったよ。re:zeroであんな「心臓が喉から飛び出る」感覚を味わったのは久しぶりだ。まさか旅の途中でゼロからやり直しになるとは思わなかったわ。なぜ自分がそこにいるのか、あの人たちが誰なのかも全くわからないまま。次の数話は地獄の連続になりそうだな…普通くん
VMelain
in novels it was first person POV so it was better, i feel this was kinda hurried up
マジで言うと、原作小説は一人称視点だからめっちゃよかったのに、アニメはなんか駆け足すぎじゃね?笑ギャル
Griffith_9
The true beginning of arc 6 begins now. I’m so excited
ARC6の本番はここからやろ。ガチで楽しみすぎるンゴwww2ちゃん
Karusagi
Subaru going "I think I just solved how to beat Reid" and then immediately losing his memories is still of the funniest things Tappei has done.
The episode felt a bit lower quality animation wise but if they prioritised Ep 8 - 11, I think that's fine.
スバルが「レイッドを倒す方法わかったかも」って言った直後に記憶を失うの、まだ笑えるシーンだわ。タッペイ最高のギャグの一つだと思う。
作画はちょっと落ちた感じがしたけど、8〜11話を優先するならそれでいいかな。普通くん
Lazerbeamkt
I am upset that they didn’t play Styx Helix at the end, but overall it was a good episode. Season 1 is back!
えっ!?Styx Helix流さなかったの!?それはちょっと残念すぎる…けど、全体的には良エピソードだった!1期の雰囲気戻ってきた感じでエモい!!感情くん
Former-Measurement-9
Not everything needs Styx helix lol
Tho I do want it to come in ep 11
それな!スティクス・ヘリックスは毎回使うもんじゃないじゃん笑
でもep11で来るのはアリだよね〜マジで期待しちゃう!ギャル
Lazerbeamkt
That’s true. It’s probably just because I have always imagined that playing when I was reading it. But it would be cool for it to be in ep 11.
確かに。読んでた時にずっと想像してた曲が流れるって感じだよね。ep11で来たら熱かったな。普通くん
Artistic_Ad1721
Well, it's more about the impact it could bring in this episode.
確かにッ!この話でそれがもたらす衝撃やばすぎるよな。感情くん
Artistic_Ad1721
Yes, it's such a shame really. It'd definitely goes well with the ending.
マジでそれな!エンディングにめっちゃ合うのに残念すぎるんだけど泣ギャル
jd2003z
the ending got my girlfriend to crash out and now shes reading the wn lol
最終回で彼女が発狂して今web版読み始めてて笑う普通くん
bgoulde1999
Haven’t seen it yet. Is this the one where the thing happens?
まだ見てないんだけど、これってあのヤバいことが起きるやつ?感情くん
IAmSona
Indeed it is, “■■■・■■■” my beloved.
確かにそうだね、「■■■・■■■」は俺の愛するものだよ。普通くん
bgoulde1999
The entrée has arrived
メイン来たで!2ちゃん
ehknee
Subaru is back babyyyy
Update from what I said last week...my friend crashed out
スバルが帰ってきたぞおおお
先週言ったことの続報だけど…友達がキレてたわ普通くん
SmileyTheSmile
I'm glad we got rid of the dickhead that replaced him. "Uwu bravery this, mememe respect women that" - just shut up man, what happened to you.
あの代わりに入ってきたクソ野郎がいなくなって安心したわ。「うぅ勇気だの、俺俺女尊重しろだの」もう黙れって感じやん。お前どうしちゃったんだよ。2ちゃん
Kindly_Bee51
You sound like the sort of person people don’t give the party address to.
お前、パーティーの住所を教えてもらえないタイプの人間っぽいな。普通くん
SmileyTheSmile
"mememe You sound like the sort of person people don’t give the party address to mememe"
that's you, what's what you sound like
それってまさにアンタのことじゃん!「私私私」って、誰もパーティーの場所教えたくないタイプの人の話し方だよ笑ギャル
NoovmanThePotatoe
原文
I'll post what I posed at r/anime here too, why not.
Man, we finally get into the main part of arc 6. It’s been so long since I first encountered this arc back around 2018-2019 (I don’t remember now xd), but I’ve been loving how WF has been able to translate the same sense of mystery and danger that this arc conveys. I haven’t been able to for the last episodes, but I want to post my impressions on this adaptation.
The direction this episode seemed simpler and a little ‘flatter’ than the last five episodes, many almost static shots were used during the various conversations. It’s not bad, it could have been better. I particularly love that shot where we see both Eridna and Subaru in the reflection from the white bird’s eye for how it stands out.
I also liked a lot the whole sequence of Subaru chasing the bird and entering the secret passage to the balcony, it feels like something you would do to get the secret ending on a video game or something. The cut between this scene and the last one could have been given more time to breathe, but it is fine.
The main plot point in this episode revolves around the increase in tension between the two different camps on this mission. A few episodes back we had Julius praise Subaru for his inability to keep secrets; something he finds in a weird sense admirable; and this revelation seems to have shaken that impression of him. And his inability to recognize the problem with Anastasia/Eridna; even with all the baggage he has been handed this season; has further wounded his knightly heart. After these last two episodes he probably feels that he has been robbed of everything he knew to be true. He does not have a name or recognized nobility, he does not have his friends and companions, his trust has been broken, his strength belittled and his own pride as ‘the finest knight’ is probably at the tipping point of being lost. With how they've nailed this initial characterization, I'm really looking forward to how they portray the development of Julius throughout this season.
The conversation between Subaru and Eridna is interesting, these two are extremely suspicious of each other from the very beginning. Eridna being tied to the infamous Witch we know and love (?) and the mysterious man that just seemed to have appeared one day in front of a fountain in the capital that for some reason has solved 400-year-old problems and mysteries. I’m intrigued how they will be able to adapt this mutual distrust, but so far it has been great. That first reveal at the first episode and the balcony scene this episode have been great scenes.
Finally, that last reveal. It was a bit fast for my taste, but maybe only because I already knew what was going to happen. I would like to see how the anime only people react to it. If I remember correctly back when this chapter first released it was somewhat controversial, you know, amnesia plot and all. I loved how they portrayed this new (old) Subaru, with light literally shining in his eyes. If you go back to episode one of season one, we see the same thing happen, light appearing in the eyes of Subaru as he realizes this is the opportunity he has been waiting for.
We started this season with a ‘level 10’ Subaru entering what seems to be the endgame zone of this world, the place the witch of envy is supposed to be sealed, but now a ‘level 0’ Subaru will have to be the one to challenge it. Good luck, I suppose.
ついにアーク6の本編に入ったな。2018〜2019年ぐらいに初めて読んだ時から待ってたけど、WFがこのアークのミステリーと危険感をうまく映像化してくれてるのめっちゃ好き。
今週の演出は前5話よりシンプルでフラットに感じたな。会話シーンで静止画っぽいカットが多かった。悪くはないけどもっと良くできたかも。でも白い鳥の目に映るエキドナとスバルの反射ショットは特に際立ってて良かった。
スバルが鳥を追いかけて秘密の通路からバルコニーに出るシーンも好き。ゲームで隠しエンディングを探す感じがしてた。シーン間の切り替えはもう少し間を取っても良かったけど、まあOK。
今回のメインは二つの陣営の緊張の高まりだな。数話前、ユリウスがスバルを「秘密を守れない」と褒めてたけど、あの印象が揺らいでる。アナスタシア/エキドナの問題に気づかないスバルに、彼の騎士の心が傷ついてる。名前も貴族の地位もなく、仲間も信頼も失い、強さも軽んじられ、「最高の騎士」としての誇りも失いかけ。この序盤の描写が完璧だから、今期のユリウスの成長が楽しみ。
スバルとエキドナの会話も面白い。お互い最初から疑いまくり。有名な魔女と関係するエキドナと、突然現れて400年の謎を解決普通くん
Pen_the_Clickety
原文
Welp as an anime only, wow, just wow. Going into the scene, I assumed Subaru was going to go "what happened, last thing I remember was being in Alcyone going through the door". Not "Last thing I remember was leaving the convenience store"!!!! This was the last type of story beat I expected in this arc when everyone is constantly saying, it's about to go down next week. tl;dr It really caught me off-guard.
All of this is my theory crafting, so read if you want to see me yap.
I've been trying to speculate what happened. There's a lot but I've jotted down notes. He went through the door towards the library. Flugel also lost his memories in the past stated by Shaula. I don't think this has anything to do with Shaula or her rules, so not a broken rule. The channel Echidnut who I watch a lot uploaded their review of episode 7. The thumbnail is that of when Rui Arneb was introduced, whatever the spiral is. The spiral could possibly refer to the staircase leading up to Alcyone. Whatever the case is, Gluttony is a big key factor here since they have everything to do with memories and could do something with Subaru. Rui scares me as she can shapeshift or take on forms of other people, so there is the possibility she is amongst the party. The authority of Gluttony can devour memories whether it is a person, or relationships surrounding the individual, but when the memory is devoured, Gluttony takes on the personality and traits of them. I think that Subaru's memory is currently residing in the library and the and the answer to completing the task is figuring out the order to this library to locate Subaru, Rem, Julius(?) memories. At the end of the day, this is all just a buncha theories!
アニメ勢だけど、まじで草生えたわwww
「何が起きた?最後に覚えてるのはアルシオーネでドアを通ったところだ」ってなると思ったらまさかの「コンビニ出たところまでしか覚えてない」ってwww
来週ヤバいってみんな言ってる中で、こんな展開くると思わんかったンゴ。完全に虚を突かれたわ。
【ワイの考察】
・スバルは図書館に向かうドアを通った
・シャウラが言うにはフリューゲルも過去に記憶失ってる
・シャウラのルール違反じゃないと思う
・エキドナットのサムネにルイ・アルネーブの渦マークあった
・渦=アルシオーネへの階段かも
・暴食が鍵やろ。記憶に関係してるし
・ルイが変身して仲間に紛れてる可能性ガチである
・暴食の権能は記憶を食うだけでなく、その人の人格も継承する
・スバルの記憶は図書館にあって、本の並び順を解くのが課題なんちゃうか
・レムやユリウスの記憶もそこにあるかも
まあ全部ワイの妄想やけどな!2ちゃん
hiimpiikachu95
Starting from now to the end of the season will be only despair and suffering. The starting point is the memory loss after this only goes down to the bottom
これからシーズン終わりまで絶望と苦しみしかない。ここから記憶喪失を皮切りにどんどん底辺に落ちていくんだよね普通くん
Silent_Night7264
Oh good, finally. I mean, all the fuzzy stuff is nice too, but I crave pain and despair. Preferably something on the level of "Subaru being killed by the Beast of the End while holding dead Rem in his hands". Let's hope the season delivers.
この展開、ようやく来たかという感じだな。ほのぼのした話も悪くないが、俺は苦痛と絶望を渇望している。理想的には「スバルが死んだレムを抱きながら終末の獣に殺される」レベルの衝撃が欲しい。今期がその期待に応えてくれることを願う。考察くん
hiimpiikachu95
原文
If i remember correctly not giving any spoilers. The suffers that Subaru will face right now is more like a psychological type of suffer than a physical. he will be seen himself in so different situations where facing death will be an easy choice.
Only cause this memory loss will make him not trust anyone even himself. And you know think about season 1 Subaru before any deaths…. After the first one we got a lot more… I dont need to say anything else’s just watch and feel
ネタバレなしで覚えてる範囲だけど、今のスバルが直面する苦しみは肉体的より精神的なタイプなんだよね。死ぬこと自体が楽に思えるような状況に何度も自分を置くことになる。
記憶喪失のせいで誰も信じられなくなるし、自分自身も信じられなくなる。シーズン1の最初の死を経験する前のスバルを思い出してほしい…あの後、いろいろあっただろ?それ以上は言わないけど、見て感じてほしい。普通くん
Akudra
Oh no, he physically suffers pretty bad, there is just far more psychological suffering.
やばっ、マジで身体的にもヤバいんだけど、心理的な苦しみの方がもっとエグいんだよね笑ギャル
Bigus_dickus_the_1st
Is 4 episodes enough for the entire volume 23 ?.
Honestly i am doubtful that people who have read LN and WN will be satisfied.
うわ、たった4話で23巻全部やるの?!正直、原作読んだ民は満足できないんじゃないかな…。不安すぎるッ!感情くん
Knight0706
Most of this seasons volumes have been 3-4 episodes it should be perfect
今期の巻数は大体3〜4話分やし、完璧やろ2ちゃん
Waylornic
I feel the opposite really. If v23 was longer than 4 episodes, I feel like it would be too drawn out from v24.
逆に俺はそう思わないな。v23が4話より長かったら、v24から間延びしてたと思う。普通くん
Former-Measurement-9
4 episodes is good enough tbh
4話でじゅーぶんじゃね?てかむしろちょうどいいかも笑ギャル
SteveM7Reddit
Yeah, it should be. The most likely pacing should have the next 3 Episodes cover everything bar the last chapter of the volume.
それな!次の3話でほぼ全部カバーしそうだよね。最終章だけ残る感じのペース配分がエモすぎるッ!感情くん
EmphasisFinancial658
Dunno about LN people but i sure want to read it now as an anime only
マジでやばくね!?アニメ勢なんだけど、今すぐ原作読みたくなったわ笑ギャル
Akudra
原文
Well, I am already dissatisfied with the abbreviated version of the chat between Subaru and Foxidna. That said, I think the main points can be handled well. Based on the pacing, I would expect the first two amensia loops to be covered in one episode and another episode covers the next failed loop (the aura monster loop) and part of the following failed loop. Most likely, the final two episodes will cover that loop and maybe the very beginning of the next loop with the next cour picking up from that point.
うーん、スバルとフォクシドナの会話が短縮されてるのはもう不満だな。でも主要なポイントはうまく処理できると思う。ペース的に、最初の2回の記憶喪失ループは1話で、次の失敗ループ(オーラモンスターのやつ)とその次の失敗ループの一部をもう1話でやる感じかな。最終2話でそのループを終わらせて、次のループの最初あたりで第2クールに続くって予想。普通くん
Ok-Worldliness-7374
原文
Ram does sound in pain while talking at the beginning.
Good thing that Subaru doesn't produce a lot of mana. Betty would fatten up in that case and she would have t excersise, which not even her mother can do.
We got a pretty cool look of the inside of watchtower!
What a romantic encounter with Ana... The lord of pigeons is spying on them!
I am glad they animated Scarfdona being afraid and suspicious of Subaru
And the moment Julius with his spirit blessing appears, the pigeons run away.... They are definitely fairies.
The only Echidna that inherited the love...
【ラム考察】
冒頭のラムの話し方、明らかに苦しそうなニュアンスが込められていたな。
【マナに関する考察】
スバルがほとんどマナを生成しないのは、ベアトリスにとって好都合だな。もし大量に生成していたら、契約者として吸収してベティが太ってしまい、運動が必要になるところだった。その運動すら母親にもできないという皮肉が効いている。
【監視塔内部】
プレアデス監視塔の内部構造がかなりしっかり描かれていたな。あのアングルは制作陣のこだわりを感じる。
【アナスタシア遭遇シーン】
鳩の主がスパイしている中でのアナとの邂逅、ロマンチックな演出だった。
【スカーフドナの反応】
エキドナ(スカーフ)がスバルに対して恐怖と疑念を抱くシーン、しっかりアニメ化されていて良かった。あの表情の変化は伏線だな。
【ユリウスの精霊加護】
ユリウスが精霊の加護を発動した瞬間、鳩たちが逃げていった件。あれは確かに妖精だったと考察できる。
【継承された愛】
エキドナの中で唯一、愛を受け継いだ存在……このテーマはシリーズ全体の核心に触れるな。考察くん
Akudra
Honestly, I felt that scene with him and Foxidna lacked a lot of tension with everything they cut.
いやマジであのシーン、Foxidnaとの会話めっちゃカットされてたから緊張感半減じゃない?もったいなさすぎるんだけど笑ギャル
Son-naruto-d
原文
Welp amnesia arc starting, meaning the start of hell is incoming.
Based off the pacing I doubt they’ll go in-depth with a lot of the failed loops, you know the “[][][]” ones
Absolutely love how they implied shaula’s loneliness, made her fell both creepy and pitiful
And they absolutely nailed the confrontation scene
lil sad they skipped Subaru calling rem, Patrasche, and Emilia his, only for Emilia to respond that he is hers. Unfortunate part of the low episode number is that a lot of Emilia and Subaru moments get cut down a lot
But Julius VA was crazy good, you could just hear the betrayal. I wonder if the julisuba edits or fanarts will take a hit cause he called Subaru an outsider?
Def do believe the anime being a good way of covering the core of story, with good animation and VA work. Though it doesn’t cover all the good moments, it does a good job being an adaptation of it.
ああ、健忘編が始まるのか…地獄の始まりってわけだね。
ペース的に、あの[][][]の失敗ループは深くやらないだろうな。
シャウラの孤独感の表現はめっちゃ良かったな。不気味でありながら哀れにも見える感じが出てた。
対決シーンも完璧に決まってたし。
スバルがレム、パトラッシュ、エミリアを「俺の」って言って、エミリアが「あなたは私のものよ」って返すシーンがカットされたのはちょっと残念。話数少ないからエミリアとスバルのやり取りが結構削られちゃうんだよな。
でもユリウスの声優はめっちゃ良かった。裏切りの感情が声に乗ってた。彼がスバルを「部外者」って呼んだから、ユリスバのファンアートとか減ったりするのかな?
アニメはストーリーの核をちゃんとカバーしてて、作画も声優も良かったと思う。良いシーン全部は拾えてないけど、十分良いアニメ化だったよ。普通くん
FatRetardRaydar
aura monster soon
オーラモンスターすぐ来るンゴwww2ちゃん
Knight0706
This week I get to feast on the shock of my pals. Glorious day 😊
今週は友達の驚いた顔を見られて最高だわ。最高の日だね😊普通くん
Klutzy_Ad9306
"Everyone is an equal opportunity victim of my works of art!" - Tappei 2026
「俺の作品は全員平等に被害者になるんだ!」タッペイ先生、2026年宣言しすぎィ!感情くん
Bronpool
we are getting close to the larp monster scene...
もうすぐLARPモンスターシーン来るやん…ワクワクしてきたわ2ちゃん
No_Mammoth_4945
I’m glad they gave the talk Justice but man I wanted more time with s1 Subaru lol the wait for next week will be torture
確かに正義についての話は良かったけど、俺はS1のスバルともっと長くいたかったな笑 来週まで待つのが拷問すぎる普通くん
Mas_Kun_J
I hope they will use Styx Helix somewhere
あの曲また使われんのマジで嬉しすぎ!Styx Helixは神曲だよね!ギャル
BillPlunderones23fg
wow it just happened like that, i swore he was reading Reid's book when it happened or does that happen later.
another good calmish episode the whole sequence on balcony was lovely with the night and coloring
and just to get a reminder those birds were confirmed to be Pandora spying right?
The rollercoaster begins in earnest now
わお、まさかあんな風に起こるとは思わなかった。確かリードの本を読んでる時に起きたはずだと思ってたけど、それはもっと後なのかな。
今回も穏やかで良いエピソードだった。バルコニーのシーン全体が夜の雰囲気と色彩で美しかった。
それと確認だけど、あの鳥たちはパンドラのスパイって確定なんだよね?
いよいよ本格的にジェットコースターが始まるな。普通くん
rammux74
We only find out how he lost his memories later on
このシーンで記憶を失った経緯が後で明かされるってのがエモすぎるッ!知った時の衝撃やばかったわ感情くん
BillPlunderones23fg
ah
ああ普通くん
VMelain
Yes, subaru was looking for reid book of dead, found it and got ambushed by louis there
おおッ!スバルがライドの死者の書を探して見つけたのに、ルイに待ち伏せされたのか!しんどすぎる…まじで無理感情くん
OmegaUV
so we are here finally...
ついにここまで来たんだな…普通くん
Majora101
Tappei is a master at letting you feel comfortable and then making a moment of piece impossible to achieve.
Even now as they're struggling in the Tower there's no pressing time limit and even Reid is someone they can challenge at their own pace. But say goodbye to these luxuries from this point on.
タッペイはマジで天才やわ。安心させといてから絶対に平穏を許さないスタイルやん。
今の塔での戦いも時間制限ないし、リードも自分のペースで挑める相手やった。でもここからはそういう贅沢とはおさらばやな。2ちゃん
ChaozMatt
Oh yeah its go time
おっ、ついに始まるな普通くん
ConfidentDivide901
How how how how could this happen????
なんでなんでなんでなんでこんなことになるんだよッ!?!?感情くん
Warkiller646
原文
Awww Emilia worrying about Julius is so precious! Love to see her caring side everytime :> Fills me with wholesome feelings!
Oooh Subaru and Emilia don't have their cloaks on this episode. They look good.
Hehe Beako's shy about wanting to hold hands with Subaru and he gives her a hug! Love them so much!
"Shame's not in her vocabulary" You're right about that Meili 😆
Uh oh Subaru fell asleep and is alone again. I don't like the bird...feels like he's going to die or something weird's gonna happen.
Oh it was Echidna trying to lead him for a chat. False alarm.
Oh fuck oh fuck Julius caught them....
That conversation was intense but thankfully Julius and Echidna have Ana's wellbeing as their first priority.
Aww Subaru trying to get close to Ram and calling her a big sister! Wonder if Ram'll soften up to it eventually.
Oh noooooooo....what....how....
エミリアがユリウスを心配してるのめっちゃ可愛い!彼女の優しい面が見られるの好きだよ〜心が温かくなる!
あ、今回スバルとエミリアマント着てないんだね。似合ってるわ。
ベアトリスが手繋ぎたいけど恥ずかしがってて、スバルがハグしてる!この二人最高すぎる!
「恥って言葉は彼女の辞書にない」メィリィその通りだよ😆
やば、スバル寝落ちして一人に…あの鳥が気になる。なんか死ぬか変なこと起きそうな予感。
あ、エキドナが話そうとしてただけか。よかった。
うわっユリウスに見つかった…
会話は重かったけど、二人ともアナスタシアのことを第一に考えてくれててホッとした。
スバルがラムに姉ちゃん呼びで近づこうとしてる!いつかラムも心開くのかな?
えっ…なに…どういうこと…普通くん
Forward_Ad_9025
Unable to resist I sourced an english fan translation of this arc and read until Ram and Subaru are going out to grab some water (being vague to not spoil it for anyone)
... I stopped there. The next episodes are going to really tug on my heart, aren't they?
This will hurt and I am all-in for it. That's why watch this anime after all.
ガマンできずにこのアークの英訳ファン翻訳漁ってラムとスバルが水汲みに行くとこまで読んじまった(ネタバレ避けて曖昧にしてる)
…そこで止めたンゴ。今後のエピソード、ガチで心抉られるやつやろこれ?
痛いのは分かってるけどワイは全力で受けて立つわ。それがこのアニメ見る理由やしな。2ちゃん
rxde64
I know it was cut from the light novel but I hoped they would add back the part with shaula talking about the tast of the mad beast and how everyone feels bad about it.
確かに、小説からカットされたシャウラが魔獣の味について話すシーン、アニメで追加してほしかったな。あれみんな気まずそうにしてたし。普通くん
ThroawayJimilyJones
how does it taste?
え、それって味どうなの!?やばくね!?笑ギャル
rxde64
Like sewage. Apparently others have tried other stuff to make them taste good but they couldn't so it would always end up tasting like sewage.
マジで下水の味らしい。他の方法で美味しくしようと試した人もいたみたいだけど、結局どれもダメでいつも下水みたいな味になるんだって…無理すぎるッ!感情くん
SitZoth
原文
It was a good episode.
But I see the criticism at the end about that moment. While it's practically a 1:1 adaptation of the novel, in my opinion, I wanted more.
The internal monologue in this scene helps to further muddy the situation, making it clear what happened, but that's not the serious issue. The real problem is that there's practically no resolution to the scene itself. Think of it this way: all we see is Subaru waking up confused, thinking some funny things like calling Emilia a silver elf, Beako a loli, and Patrache a giant lizard—there's the clue. And while that's how it ends in the novel, it doesn't mean the anime should follow suit. Personally, I would have preferred it to end with Emilia saying, "You don't even remember me."
I bet some people won't understand what happened at the end of this episode. Let's be honest, it could mean anything to someone watching it without knowing anything. Sure, some people will get it, but that doesn't mean they won't come up with all sorts of theories that will be debunked in the next episode. I think it's fine, but with just a little more dialogue, you could have made a better ending. I think it completely loses the impact of the scene. Not only do you have no idea what happened, but you have to wait a week to fully understand the meaning of those words. It fails to have the impact it could have if you don't connect the small details of a very short scene right at the end of an episode. If you're not paying attention, it'll just go by like, "Look, it's just one of Subaru's eccentricities."
This is just my opinion, and I'm only thinking about how I would have enjoyed it more. Besides, they could have used more music to create tension or other elements to make it clearer, or they could have ended it in a heartbreaking way, with Emilia and Beako almost crying. Anyway, I hope you get my point. I also read the web novel straight through, so I felt the impact of the scene immediately. I wonder how it was for those who were reading it as it came along and were left with that cliffhanger.
It's a good setup chapter, but it will definitely be more enjoyable with the next one as a whole.
良いエピソードだったと思う。
ただ、最後のあのシーンには批判もあるよね。小説をほぼそのまま再現してるのは分かるけど、個人的にはもう少し欲しかったな。
あの場面の内面モノローグは状況をより曖昧にして、何が起きたかは分かるんだけど、それ自体が問題じゃない。本当の問題は、そのシーンにほとんど解決がないってこと。考えてみてよ、俺たちが見るのはスバルが混乱して目覚めて、エミリアを銀エルフ、ベアトリスをロリ、パトラッシュを巨大トカゲって呼ぶような変なこと考えてるだけだろ?そこにヒントはある。小説ではそう終わるけど、アニメもそれに従う必要はないと思う。個人的にはエミリアが「私のことすら覚えていないのね」って言って終わる方が良かったな。
たぶんこのエピソードの最後で何が起きたか理解できない人もいると思う。正直、何も知らずに見てる人には何にでも取れる内容だよ。分かる人もいるけど、次回で否定されるような様々な理論を考え出す人も出てくるだろう。それでもいいと思うけど、あとちょっとセリフを増やすだけで、もっと良い終わり方ができたはず。あのシーンのインパクトを完全に損なってると思うんだ。何が起きたか分からない上に、その言葉の意味を完全に理解するまで一週間待たなきゃいけない。エピソードの最後にある短いシーンの細かい要素を繋げないと、インパクトを十分に活かせないんだよ。注意普通くん
rammux74
If they somehow didn't understand now they would start the next episode and will understand it 3 seconds later. And if they are weekly watchers then the fanbase should make it clear what happened
It's not that deep
せやな、今週分で分からんかったら次回の3秒で理解できるやろ
それでも分からんかったらファンが解説してくれるし
深く考えすぎやで2ちゃん
SitZoth
Yes, like I said, it's a good adaptation of the novels. It's more to highlight something from the episode; aside from that, the only interesting thing to discuss is that that scene could have had more impact than just a "uh, I'm sure they'll explain it in the next episode."
そうだね、原作の良いアニメ化だと思うよ。今回のエピソードで言いたいのは、あのシーンが「まあ次回説明あるっしょ」って流されちゃったのがもったいなかったなってこと。そこ以外は特に話すことないけどね。普通くん
DankMemeCentral24
I agree I’m afraid there will be people who just think Subaru is being funny and that shock won’t come to them until next episode. which at the point, a week out from now, they aren’t going to feel that same shock. They’ll just be confused
確かに同意だ。スバルの行動を「面白い」としか捉えず、次回まで衝撃が伝わらない視聴者がいるのが懸念される。1週間後の放送では同じ衝撃は得られず、混乱だけが残るという考察ができるな。考察くん
TyrannosaurusWreckd
From all the anime onlies reactions I've been reading, the vast majority seem to understand what happened in that he lost his memories. Only a few are confused, but not in a way that they think he is just being silly.
アニメ勢の反応を色々見てるけど、ほとんどの人は彼が記憶を失ったって理解してるみたいだね。混乱してる人もいるけど、「ただバカやってるだけ」って思ってる人はほとんどいない感じ。普通くん
DankMemeCentral24
That’s good to hear. Thank you.
それは良かったわ。ありがとな。2ちゃん
Spiritual-Aide-51
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While I'll think most will viewers will understand this scene before the next episode, it would have been preferable if it was blatant. Tappei utilizes his medium well, where we as readers reaches an understanding of the situation before he confirms it. An adaption should utilize its medium to tell the essence of a story, even if that entails changing the scenes. Atleast for me.
This scene would've hit harder if we're led to believe Subaru acts conspicious but within character, until it reaches the climax of Emilia saying "Wait ...You don't rember us..."
確かに多くの視聴者は次回までにこのシーンを理解するだろうけど、もう少し明確でも良かったかもね。タッペイは原作で読者が確認前に状況を把握できるようにうまく書いてる。アニメ化なら、シーンを変えても本質を伝えるべきだと思う。個人的には、スバルの不自然な行動がキャラ的に見えるように誘導して、エミリアが「待って…あなた、私たちのこと覚えてないの…」って言うクライマックスまで引っ張った方がもっと刺さったんじゃないかな。普通くん
Conscious_Bug5408
That's exactly my issue and how I found this post. It was so brief and weird that I don't know what they're implying or of it was just Subaru being eccentric. Or that he's confused or lost his memories for no apparent reason. Is there a non spoiler way to explain it for anime onlys
このシーン、確かに違和感があるよね。僕も同じ疑問を持ったんだ。スバルのあの挙動が「単なる奇行」なのか「何かの伏線」なのか判断しづらい。ただ、これまでのRe:ゼロの構成を踏まえると、意図的に視聴者に違和感を残す演出だと考察できる。死に戻りの影響で記憶が曖昧になる描写は過去にもあったし、ここで突然「記憶を失ったかのような反応」を見せるのは、制作陣が何か仕掛けている可能性が高い。アニメオンリー向けに非ネタバレで説明するなら「現時点では意図的に謎を残しているシーン」と捉えるのが妥当だと思う。考察くん
khriku
this isn't anime only thread mate, are you anime only? This thread here is filled with spoilers, anime only thread is the other way
anyway they adapted it exactly as it happened in the book, they are being faithful to the series
アニメしか見てない人向けのスレじゃないよ。ここはネタバレだらけだから、アニメオンリースレは別の場所だよ
それにしても、原作通りに忠実に映像化されてるね。シリーズへのリスペクトが感じられる普通くん
ShadowGuyinRealLife
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Anime only but I'm here to ask one question. Are we going to hear Subaru monologuing? Sometimes, like in season 2, we go for an extended period of time where we know what Subaru is doing but not what he is thinking. However it is easy to guess what he is thinking due to what is going on. Now that Subaru has been factory reset, only seeing what he says is unlikely to give us insight to his mind. And I am very curious as to what he thinks of his allies now that he forgot them. My guess is he will spend lots of time simping for Emilia.
アニメ勢だけど、一つ質問がある。スバルのモノローグは聞けるのか?S2みたいに、スバルの行動は分かっても思考が分からない長い期間があるんだよね。でも状況から推測はできた。今スバルはリセットされたから、彼の言葉だけじゃ内面が読めない。仲間を忘れた今、彼がどう思ってるのかすごく気になる。俺の考察だと、エミリアにベタ惚れする時間が長くなると思われる。考察くん
khriku
原文
> Anime only but I'm here to ask one question. Are we going to hear Subaru monologuing?
Unlikely, Anime is skipping the times he monologues. we only got a few here and there on season 3, most of the time, dialogue that was supposed to be Subaru thinking is removed in anime format.
>And I am very curious as to what he thinks of his allies now that he forgot them.
as anime is removing most of the internal thoughts of Subaru, I guess for answers about this you will be required to read the novel
アニメ勢だけど一つ質問。スバルのモノローグって聞ける?
たぶんないね。アニメはモノローグ飛ばしてるから。3期でもちょこっとあった程度で、原作でスバルが考えてた台詞のほとんどはアニメだとカットされてる。
> 仲間の記憶を忘れた今、スバルが彼らをどう思ってるのかすごく気になる
アニメだとスバルの内面描写がほとんど省かれてるから、これについては小説読むしかないと思うよ普通くん
Ok-Method-561
I'm so excited to see the anime only reactions next week, I imagine half of them will just react with STAIRS but we really tricked lobotomy kaisen fans into watching peak didn't we.
来週のアニメ勢の反応が楽しみすぎるンゴwww
半分くらいは「階段」しか言わんやろうけどな
でもロボトミー呪術ファンを名作に引きずり込めたのはガチで草2ちゃん
Real_Smoker
Scusate, non ho capito una ceppa ma com'è morto Subaru. Era entrato in quella stanza con la scala e boh, schiattato 🤣
ごめん、よくわかんなかったんだけどスバルどうやって死んだの?あの階段のある部屋に入って、なんかポックリいった感じ?🤣普通くん
DankMemeCentral24
He didn’t die in the moment, something we don’t know happened and he lost his memories.
えっ!?その瞬間に死んでないってこと!?何か知らないことが起きてて、しかも記憶も失ってるの!?マジで謎すぎる!!感情くん
Real_Smoker
Eh, l'ho capito dopo leggendo i vostri commenti.
あー、みんなのコメント読んでやっと理解できたわ。普通くん
Jedahaw92
My most hyped moment has arrived.
やばっ!私が一番楽しみにしてた瞬間がついに来たんだけど!!めっちゃアガるじゃん!ギャル
VMelain
What do you think anime onlies will say once emilia gets her name eaten?
確かにエミリアが名前を食べられたらアニメ勢はどう反応するんだろうね。普通くん
Historical_Mess_2641
did subaru loose his memory in season 4 episode 7 (at the end of the episode)
えっ!?S4第7話のラストでスバル、記憶失ったの!?マジかよ超衝撃なんだけど!!!感情くん
NearbyOriginals
Season 1 all over again 😂
第1期の再来だなw普通くん
PuzzleheadedIsland59
(Anime only) so assuming subaru and Emilia aren't a couple anymore?
えっ!?スバルとエミリアってもうカップルじゃないってこと!?マジで!?しんどすぎるッ!!感情くん
DankMemeCentral24
They’ve never been a couple. End of season 2 Emilia is talking with Subaru and explains to him that she isn’t ready to love yet, or, more so she doesn’t know how to love anyone yet. Therefore, Subaru and Emilia are never a couple. I suspect they will be at the end of the series
確かにそうだね。2期終盤でエミリアが「まだ恋愛の気持ちがわからない」ってスバルに伝えたもんな。だから現時点ではカップルじゃないってのは事実。でもシリーズ終盤にはそうなるんじゃないかなって俺も思う。普通くん