Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 4th season

khriku
殺人は癖になる
意識が途切れたかと思うと、目の前にはメィリィの死体、腕には「ナツキスバル参上」の文字。スバルは死体を隠してその場を去るも、書庫でベアトリスがメィリィ・ポートルートと書かれた「死者の書」を発見していた。
エピソードサムネイル
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Season 4 - Episode 10 Information Main Studio: White Fox Subreddit Discord Official Site Official Twitter Crunchyroll RULES FOR SEASON 4 For those long time users, you are already aware but we usually change the rules a bit when seasons are airing to be able to focus on the season. For the newcomers, I will list some of the changes that usually happen for those that have not been here on previous seasons and will be implemented now to give the users time to adapt until season 4 comes. We will be attempting to host 2 threads per anime episode, one for anime-only users and one for novel readers. Do not spoil those on anime only thread, PUNISHMENT WILL BE SEVERE. The ban rule will change a bit instead of bans being given on 3 days on sets like these 3-3-3-perma ban, we will be giving a week off the sub for bans and it will look like this 7-7-perma ban. Punishment for those that spoil on the anime only threads will be doubled. The purpose for the harsher punishment in anime only threads is that if you spoil things for anime only users in one weeks discussion, you will be kept from participating in the following week's discussion and spoiling again. Please note that this thread is strictly anime-only. Excluding anime cut content, if the material has not yet been animated, do not discuss it here.
S4第10話スレ情報や。アニメ組用と原作勢用で分ける予定。アニメ組スレで未アニメ化ネタ語ったら厳罰、BANは7日→7日→永久やぞ。2ちゃん
SayRaine
We saw Subaru
スバル見たじゃん!ギャル
lblasto1se
I know this is coming, but this is way funnier than it should be for some reason lmao
来るの分かってたのに、なんか必要以上に面白すぎるんだがwwwwwwおじ
Acrzyguy
Faker is that you
Faker、お前なんか?2ちゃん
Masato_Fujiwara
Someone needs to make a meme out of it
誰かこれでミーム作ってくれ普通くん
Masato_Fujiwara
Appreciated
ありがたいね普通くん
KingSammyJ1
Why this make me laugh so hard
なんでこれこんな笑えるんやwww2ちゃん
No-Project-2353
First we got patrasche with don’t react and now ram with mewing.
最初はパトラッシュの「反応するな」、今度はラムのミューイングでござるか。武士
jiboxiake
But my Emilia is as lovely as always.
でも俺のEmiliaは相変わらず可愛いな。普通くん
Knight0706
This moment could have been so sweet if Subaru wasn’t bugging right now
スバルが今バグってなければ、この瞬間めっちゃ尊かったのにwwwwおじ
jiboxiake
truly truly.
それな、ほんとそれ…!感情くん
Var_Uzui
Damn, i tend to criticise Emilia but i cannot disregard her genuine kindness and loyalty towards Subaru. Seeing her support and comfort Subaru when he needs it the most, genuinely warms my heart.
普段エミリアには文句言いがちだけど、スバルへの本物の優しさと一途さは無視できない。支える姿に心が温まる。普通くん
sury_sama
EMT >>>>>>>>
EMTこそ至高……エミリアの輝きは運命すら超えるのだ。中二病
Financial-Brush-3122
Dude I genuinely thought someone was impersonating amelia for a second, and subaru was about to get slimed out. Im getting more paranoid than he is lmao
一瞬ガチで誰かがエミリアに化けてて、スバルがスライムにやられるかと思ったわ笑 うちの方が疑心暗鬼なんだけどwギャル
Freenore
I don't know, I just find it boring. Is there anything more to Emilia than being a seemingly unwavering pillar of support for Subaru and a fountain of moralism? How is it possible that the author is capable of writing such complex and multi-faceted characters ... and also Emilia?
なんか退屈なんだよね。エミリアって、スバルを支える柱で道徳を語るだけ以上のものある?作者、他は複雑に書けるのに。普通くん
Few_Escape_7592
at this point of the story it would be bad writing, not the opposite, if she starts being all conflicted and moody about Subaru. (and vice versa). Emilia is not the most nuanced of all characters true, but there is a difference between character nuance and authors constantly regressing their characters' development to forced interpersonal drama that shouldve been solved multiple arcs ago
ここでエミリアがスバル絡みで悩み始めたら、むしろ脚本が悪いだろ。繊細さと、昔の人間関係を無理に戻すのは別だ。ドライおじ
sury_sama
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She's the queen. Her fights are epic now --- since S2P2 every appearance is just a proof of how far she's come. Did I mention her fights are epic now? Like the animation just pops off. And she fights like a potential queen of the kingdom. Much like Subaru, she too is now at the center of her camp. I'm pretty sure although the Em camp is here mostly bcs of Subaru -- but Emilia now gives them solid reasons to stay.
エミリアは女王だね。S2P2以降、出番のたび成長が伝わるし戦闘も作画も神。スバル同様、陣営の中心になってる。普通くん
jiboxiake
I love this Meili lol. Poor girl.
このメィリィ好きやわ草。かわいそうに。2ちゃん
ibbolia
She's just so excited to be a malevolent spirit.
悪霊になれてめっちゃテンション上がってるだけじゃん!ギャル
AdhesivenessMaster75
The scene looks kinda funny but my man Subaru was going full schizo mode out there
そのシーンちょっと笑えるけど、スバル完全にヤバいモード入ってたな普通くん
Akudra
Meili is me watching anime-onlies react to this season.
メィリィ、今期のアニメ勢の反応見てるワイで草2ちゃん
Glittering-Pin-1343
Okay seems like Gluttony can 100% possess other people's bodies. He most likely ate Subaru's memory. We know from earlier that Rem's body pushed Subaru before, so this kindof soft confirms that Gluttony has this ability. Omg what a mess...
なるほど、暴食は他人の体を完全に乗っ取れるっぽいね。たぶんスバルの記憶も食った。前にレムの体がスバルを押したし、ほぼ確定かな。やばい混沌…普通くん
pussydestroyer42069l
we didnt see Rem *push* Subaru, she straight up beheaded him 😆
RemがSubaruを押したどころか、普通に首はねてたやろ草😆2ちゃん
rayquazza74
Yeah that was my thoughts based on last week but this week, I’m starting to second guess that that is the clean answer. It might be book related too. Perhaps he read a book and is the reason he’s experiencing such strangeness with the other personality taking over.
先週までは自分もそう考えてたけど、今週で単純解か疑い始めた。本絡みで、彼が本を読んだ結果、別人格に乗っ取られる異変が起きた考察もできる。考察くん
EhFuoco
Wouldn't that mean that gluttony saw through Subaru's memories that he can return from death? If so Satella should go crazy and destroy everything like last episode, thats the thing thats bugging me out the most, she did destroy everything when Rem came to kill him but now shes not doing anything. How did rem discover subarus rbd?
つまり暴食はスバルの記憶から死に戻りのことを見抜いたってこと?だとしたらサテラが前回みたいにブチ切れて全部破壊するはずじゃん。レムが殺しに来たときは全部壊したのに今回は何もしてないのが一番引っかかる。レムはどうやってスバルの死に戻りに気づいたんだろ?普通くん
Glittering-Pin-1343
I mean Roswaal, Echidna and the witches knew about RBD, so maybe knowing about it isn't the issue, the issue is Subaru just can't convey it in a normal fashion.
つまりロズワール、エキドナ、魔女たちは死に戻りを知っていたでござる。問題は知ることより、スバルが普通に伝えられぬ点かもな。武士
KingGilbertIV
Roswaal doesn't really have the full picture as far as I can remember. He knows that Subaru has some sort of reality warping power, but he either doesn't know how exactly it works or he doesn't know that Subaru has little meaningful control over it.
たしかロズワールも全貌は把握してないんだよね。スバルに現実改変っぽい力があるのは知ってるけど、仕組みや制御不能な点までは知らないはず。普通くん
Glittering-Pin-1343
He knows that Subaru goes back in time to alter events, but he doesn't know the nature of his power. But honestly he knows enough. Remember their bet? It was soul-binding, so he even prepared for their vow to be retained through RBD.
あいつ、スバルが時間戻して事変えるのは知っとる。本質は知らんけど十分やろ。あの賭け、魂縛りで死に戻り後も残る仕込みやん。2ちゃん
Financial-Brush-3122
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I think you're right about the conveying part. Cause from season 2, didn't satella destroy everything after subaru had told echidna about return by death? Echidna obviously already knew about it but I think its only when subaru himself conveys it, then satella does something about it. Its just the only reason why she couldnt do anything when he told echidna the first time, was because she couldnt reach subaru in that place he and echidna were.
「伝える」部分はその通りだと思う。S2でもスバルがエキドナに死に戻りを話した後、サテラが全部壊したし。最初はあの場所に届かなかっただけだね。普通くん
Mysterious-Book2146
I would imagine she can only experience through Subaru (who's memories are pretty messed up right now). She can't really read other people's minds to know what they know.
たぶん彼女、スバル経由でしか体験できないんだと思う…今スバルの記憶ぐちゃぐちゃだし。他人の心読むのは無理っぽい。感情くん
Vanaquish231
Wait, during the staircase larp loop, rem is the one that killed everyone and the black mist was satella? Did I miss a page or something?
待って、階段LARPループって、みんな殺したのレムで黒い霧がサテラだったの!?うちページ飛ばした?笑ギャル
Mysterious-Book2146
It kind of looked like Ram saw something wrong with Rem (probably evidence she was moving or different in some way). I would not be surprised if Gluttony then jumped into Ram to stop her from telling other people.
ラムはレムの異変に気づいたっぽい。暴食が口止めのためにラムへ乗り移っても驚かないな。普通くん
WorldSteak
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I think he read too many books from people he probably shouldnt have and started gained his memories as flugel back but the idea of two people who lived 2 different life times probably drove him into insanity and made his split his personality. when he switches he seems so fucking dead ass and scary i thought subaru was evil this whole time. it makes you wonder if this was the plan all along and subaru created watch tower to remember what he started
読んだらアカン本読みすぎて、フリューゲルの記憶戻った説。二つの人生で発狂して人格分裂、スバル怖すぎやろ2ちゃん
LucasL-L
I have developed a strategy for the episodes to last longer. Basically i watch the previous episode before watching the new episode. I intend to patent this method.
話数を長く楽しむ方法を編み出した。新話を見る前に前回を見返すだけ。これ特許取るつもり。普通くん
happyplayer45
Can I plz use ur method for free
その方法、無料で使わせてもらってもいいか?ドライおじ
LucasL-L
Uhg i suppose i can allow one person to use it
うぐ…一人だけなら、その力を使うことを我が許してやらんでもないのだ。中二病
MrDmsc
I believe that with such a method we might make it so the episode lasts from 5 to up to 10 minutes! That's crazy!
その方法なら1話5〜10分くらいまで伸ばせるんちゃうか!ヤバすぎやろ草2ちゃん
Apprehensive-Cat2527
My method is to pause all the time to make it last longer. Only media I do this with.
自分はしょっちゅう一時停止して、少しでも長く楽しむ派。これやるの、この作品くらいだわ。普通くん
WorldSteak
this invention is so tuff and for that reason i am out -Barbara
この発明まじイカつすぎるじゃん!だから私は降りるわ〜 -Barbaraギャル
Mew246
I thought the exact same thing today no way
今日まったく同じこと思ってた、マジか普通くん
Avoltro
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FYI IM ANIME ONLY. THIS IS JUST A THEORY I suppose from Subaru way of talking to Meilli that he is one of the Gluttony Sin Archbishops. Literally same intonation, same creepy smile, etc.... Subaru's memories and experiences are something out of this world. No one dies more than once except him. No one suffers like he does. No experiences death, feels death and embodies it except Subaru. And so that would make his memories like the most rare and delicious food for the Gluttony sin Archbishop. He stole Subaru memories, knows about RBD and trying to manipulate him to believe he should kill everyone to piece OG Subaru memories together. But he will still kill him and repeat that for eternity. The thing is every cycle is basically him tasting that food for the first time ever. Its like watching your fav show and every time you are done enjoying it, U just forget everything and watch it again.
※ワイはアニメ勢や。ただの妄想やけど、スバルがメィリィに話す時の口調・不気味な笑み、あれ暴食の大罪司教やろ。スバルの記憶は死に戻りで唯一無二、司教にとって最高のご馳走ンゴ。記憶奪って全員殺すよう操って、それを永遠に繰り返す…毎回初めて味わうみたいにな。ゾッとするわ2ちゃん
sonicmega
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Back in Season 1 I deliberately tried to copy Petelgeuse’s mannerisms during the scenes where he’s possessing Subaru (or fighting for control of his mind)… so if your theory turns out to be correct, then it’s really exciting to see someone say “I’m guessing it’s him because it sounded exactly like the way he would talk”, as that was my interpretation of what was happening as well. EDIT: Just realized you never mentioned whether it was sub or dub, so this might have been pointless, lmao! But either way, I’m glad folks are getting to eat good this season. Can’t wait for next week!
実はS1でペテルギウスがスバルに憑依する(精神の支配を争う)シーンで、彼の口調を意図的に真似てたんだ。だから「彼だと思う、話し方がそっくりだった」って言ってくれる人がいるのは嬉しいね、俺の解釈と一致してるから。追記:吹替か字幕か言ってなかったな、無意味だったかもw でも今期はみんな満足できてる、来週も楽しみだ!考察くん
siliril
Watching the dub, and immediately on that scene I was thinking "That's not Subaru, he doesn't speak that way" and starting running through the sin arch bishops in my head. So your efforts paid off imo!
吹替で見てて、その場面ですぐ「これスバルじゃない、こんな喋り方しない」って思って、大罪司教を頭の中で巡らせてた。努力は報われてたと思う!普通くん
Skoro-Crusader
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watched it in sub. To be fair, I wasn’t comparing the voice as in the voice/cast itself. I was comparing the manner of the voice communicating a behaviour. When Subaru was posessed by Petelgeuse, it sounded like Subaru, cuz it was Subaru’s voice, but the manner Subaru’s voice was communicating his intent/behaviour was not remotely the same, letting the viewer INSTANTLY know, it was Petelgeuse. At the end of E8 and now again in E10, we can see Subaru & Rem talking/communicating their language in a completely insane manner. The insane laugh/grin, the sadistic ironic sentences they drop, the way their head moves around way more and theatrical instead of staying calm/relaxed as Rem&Subaru were usually….points all towards the manner/voice of Rui
字幕で観たけど、声優や声そのものを比べてたわけじゃない。声が伝える「振る舞い方」を比べてたんだ。スバルがペテルギウスに憑依された時、声はスバルなのに振る舞いが全然違って、瞬時にペテルギウスだと分かった。E8ラストとE10でもスバルとレムがイカれた喋り方をしてる。狂った笑い、サディスティックな皮肉、大げさな頭の動き…全部ルイの振る舞い・声を指してると考察できる。考察くん
Skoro-Crusader
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I doubt the second part: Lye/Roy/Louis knowing about RbD is pretty much impossible, why: 1. The ability is not a power, it’s a curse from Satella. Since Satella is sealed and not dead, her witch factor didn’t fully get transported to Subaru, instead: A fraction of her power got sent to him. Why? 2. Because she loves him. And since she loves him, she wants him to live on, survive and inherit all the witch factors, so he can at the end destroy her. How did I get on this idea? Well, during Arc4, we saw the tea party moment, where not only she constantly proves her love throughout the series, but she proves that her curse RbD was gifted to him in a good intention, not to make him suffer but to make him live on for a special purpose. At the end of the final tea party she literally revealed that purpose: “And some day, you’re gonna have to come…and kill me”. How should one kill her? By overpowering her. Since I doubt that Reinhard could kill her (his powers are mostly physical, and not witch factor level), because witch factors like Sirius’s wrath and Regulus’s greed could corner him, the only thing beating another witch factor isn’t physical powers, but: Other witch factors. 3. Also the entire show so far points toward an adventure of Subaru collecting witch factors. He killed Petelgeuse and got his shadow hands and sloth factor. After that, he killed Regulus and was called to have two witch factors inside him. So what will most likely happen is him collecting all to kill the one who truly loves him: Satella. Now why do I think that Roys/Lye’s knowledge bout RbD is bs: Noone knows the power/authority rules of ones witch factor, except the wielder themselves or the past wielders of others who are now dead: See how the only ones knowing his power are: He, Echidna & Satella, because it’s basically a fraction of Satella’s power, so she can control who knows about it. The other candidates (like Roswaal in Arc4/S2) only knew he had a general ability of foreshadowing/prediction/prophecy. It is physically impossible to just assume someone had that ability, because you’d have to experience the victim die and reset time, thus your own memory, which would erase your knowledge to that past point again, or: You’d have to be directly told about the ability, which Satella would stop u from, because its her power and she can decide who knows bout it. —>Roy/Lye/Louis prolly only know that Subaru got a sht ton of memory & knowledge, but they don’t know why
後半は疑普通くん
rayquazza74
Na I wouldn’t rule that out. If they truly ate his memories they would know about RBD because Subaru knew about it, that’s a core memory for him.
いや、それは否定できない…本当に記憶を食ったなら、スバルの死に戻りも知るはず。核すぎる記憶だし…感情くん
Freenore
You wrote all this but forgot the most obvious counterargument: Roswaal knows about RBD, as does Echidna. It seems to me that the restriction lies in Subaru being unable to tell anyone about his condition, but they can learn about it by other means. Going by this, there's good reason to think Gluttony couldn't have learned about RBD.
こんだけ書いて一番 obvious な反論忘れてる。ロズワールもエキドナも死に戻りを知ってる。スバルが言えないだけで、別経路なら知れる。だから暴食は知れなかったと思う。普通くん
Skoro-Crusader
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I literally answered your “counter argument” in the 4th point Echidna knows cuz she dead and she a witch. Roswaal don’t know bout RbD, he only knows that Subaru got sum ability of foreshadowing/prediction/general reset. Sht ain’t the same as Return by Death. We know that Satella stops this from happening by conditioned/filtered influence of the unseen hand. If Subaru says “I died” in the manner of revealing his ability, she stops him, but when he said multiple times “I faced death/I died too often” “I travel time” in a manner of casual dialogue, she doesn’t interact with unseen hands, instead nothing happens. If he had said to Roswaal in this kinda manner “Man, I reset time and died so often that I forgot to count, yk? Everyday stuff, yk the drill” then nun would happen (my theory), but if he just tried to say “I came back from the dead” or just “I reset time” or “I died” to reveal his ability, he prolly would be instantly stopped by Satella
4点目で反論済み。エキドナは死んだ魔女考察くん
fistyfishy
Your argument in point 4 doesn’t make sense, experiencing Subaru’s memories of return by death would not reset time back to before you obtained the memory. Assuming Gluttony works similar to reading a book of the dead, you would absolutely know or experience RBD yourself.
4点目の主張は変だと思う。スバルの死に戻りの記憶を体験しても、記憶を得る前には戻らない。暴食が死者の書に近いなら、本人も死に戻りを知るはず。普通くん
DixyNL
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They might not have memories of his deaths because, from their perspective, he never died. When Subaru is reset, he returns to an earlier point in the world, and by the world's laws, it is as if those deaths never happened. This is reinforced whenever Satella intervenes when he tries to tell someone about Return by Death. Since revealing it violates the world's rules, she either freezes time and stops him or kills those involved. The only apparent exception is the other witches. Since Subaru was able to tell Echidna directly, it seems they exist outside the normal laws and causality of the world while in the Dream Castle. So my guess is that if Roy, Lye, or Louis were to eat Subaru's memories, they would only gain access to the memories of the currently existing Subaru. Memories tied to previous loops, which no longer exist within the world's causality, or otherworldly knowledge that lies outside those laws, presumably would not be carried over.
死に戻り後の死は因果上「なかった」扱いだから記憶に残らない考察ができる。サテラ介入も証左。ロイらが食えるのは現行スバルの記憶だけだと思う。考察くん
barty123432
But last episode when "Rem" kills him she says "try to figure it out next time" meaning someone definitely knows about rby or like Roswell at least has an idea that subaru can time travel
でも前回「レム」が殺した時「次は解いてみて」って言ってたじゃん?誰かは死に戻り知ってる、ロズワールも勘づいてるってこと!ギャル
DixyNL
Roswaal has an idea that he redoes thing yes. But he does not know what Return By Death is. he has an assumption, maybe he has that due what is written in his gospel by Echidana. Who is a witch who is outside causality. so the theorie imo still stands
ロズワールはスバルがやり直してるとは思ってる。でも死に戻りは知らない。エキドナの福音書由来の推測だろうし、その説はまだ成り立つと思う。普通くん
barty123432
Did you read the first half of my comment
ワイのコメント前半読んだんか?2ちゃん
DixyNL
Wow, no i did not 😆 or maybe i read it different entirly. I also missed that part where it was said. Maybe i have had a scuffed fan translation but if i recall my translation said somehting along the like of, wel.. this should be good. Good luck. And pushed. So i guess i read a ffed translation
わ、全然気づかなかった😆 というか読み違えてたかも。怪しいファン翻訳で「まあ面白くなりそう。幸運を」って押す感じだったし、翻訳がひどかったんだと思う普通くん
barty123432
That's whats is said in the Crunchyroll version, Which has its own problems but it is probably the mostly correct in terms of substance
Crunchyroll版ではそう言ってるな。問題はあるけど、内容的にはたぶん一番合ってるやろ。2ちゃん
Skoro-Crusader
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So from how I’ve seen it, there are two possibilities how to interprete this episodes secret references. My theories are: 1. The thing Shaula whispered to Subaru in the library most likely means, she knew what Subaru did, found the corpse and disposed it. I found it most logical, because she has no moral idea (being a scorpion) nor human law inside her, and is just guided by whatever her master (Subaru) tells her to do. She didn’t even bother a second with questioning why Subaru asked her to hide in a barrel and spy on his talk with Julius. She just did it without asking, so when seeing her master kill someone, she prolly just covered him by disposing her corpse. 2. The silent-sign from Ram: My idea is pretty vague, so I’m open for critique, but I think it just means that Ram hasn’t seen what he did to her directly, but she figured it out indirectly. She prolly noticed that at the time everyone left together in a group, only Shaula, Meili & Subaru were left behind, with Shaula only following orders, leaving two options: He defended himself, or he attacked in malicious intent. She knows Subaru isn’t “that kinda person” and she knows and experienced Meili being an assassin and having attacked the mansion with zero care for Petra & Rem. Her thought was prolly, that Meili attacked Subaru, and Subaru defended himself using Shaula’s help, OR Subaru wanted to get rid of Meili because he couldn’t trust her. Either ways, I think Ram was chill bout it cuz she knew and noticed Subaru didn’t “want” to murder her, but still killed her. Seeing then the sign he did to Patrasche through her animal-vision ability, she confirmed her own theory of him having killed her. She followed him, saw him being surprised and instantly knew: He did ts EDIT: I take back my theories up there. I got a new one: Okay I think I’ll take back my first theory, this would make maybe more sense considering Ram & Shaula in E10: During the archive scene Shaula whispered to Subaru “I know it/your secret”, whilst Ram did the “shush” sign & the “I saw it” that caused the huge debate in this comment section. Most takes in here assume they were both knowing about the murder, and tbh: I was sure that that was the main reason for their signs/whispers. ⁠What IF (just IF, correct me if I’m wrong, but hear me out pls): They were NEVER talking bout the murder, but instead talking about his first secret: Memory Loss. Look at it like this: Starting at E9, Subaru chose to not reveal his memory loss to Beatrice & Emilia when he said “Wait, I def had this conversation before”. When he walked away from them he said “I’ll keep it secret this time”. He literally called it his secret. He didn’t tell it to anyone. Now this secret is also a day older than the secret of the murder. How would they notice his secret memory loss? ⁠Because they were rational/uncapable of human emotions. See how Emilia’s & Beatrice’s reactions to seeing Subaru being so confused and weird in behaviour, were trying to care more for him and clinging to him more, instead of asking actually “What’s wrong” or even just asking themselves “Why does he behave like this?”. Emilia’s first reaction to Subaru leaving the room of the murder was emotional binding, literal love talk. In the archive both Beatrice & Emilia started the entire care-talk again. Their rational thinking of questioning his behaviour was too influenced by emotions, to even question it, so instead they tried to care more. Julius & Anastasia who could notice it, didn’t because they weren’t present most of the time of E9-10. ⁠The only one’s cold enough to not be influenced of emotions and thus capable of logically questioning his behaviour and analyzing his behaviour were: Ram & Shaula, who were also the same two who signed/told/showed him in a secret way that they know sum “secret”. Shaula being a scorpion and more loyal than emotional, whilst Ram generally being a cold thinking person towards Subaru, could both have the capability of noticing the following signs: ⁠He stopped being constantly loud and excusing himself; He stopped being clingy and cuddling Beatrice; He stopped running after Emilia & stopped the love talk to her; He even held his distance to both Beatrice & Emilia; He was literally caught multiple times within the two last episodes with the “wrinkly face”, the “you seem bothered” face, the “you alright” face. This had never happened before. Ram & Shaula could have noticed this and thought exactly this-: He behaves as if he doesn’t know them…
訂正込みで考えると、RamとShaulaのサインは殺人でなく記憶喪失の伏線だと思う。Subaruの違和感を論理的に見抜いたのでは。考察くん
sury_sama
Ram probably used Clairvoyance on Patrasche when Subaru signalled the sush
ラムがスバルの合図でクリアボヤンス使ってパトラッシュ見てたんやろ2ちゃん
Skoro-Crusader
that’s what I meant when I said “animal vision ability”
「動物の視覚能力」って言ったのはそういう意味だよ普通くん
rayquazza74
That’s a good theory about her seeing through patrasche eyes as there was that brief scene in the gr of her looking at Subaru like wtf you just say?
彼女がパトラッシュの目で見てる説、かなりアリ!GRで一瞬「スバル今なんて言った!?」って顔してたし!感情くん
Skoro-Crusader
u mean that red-vision scene at the end?
最後の赤い視界のシーンのこと?普通くん
rayquazza74
It was in the green room when Subaru said something to the phantom Meili about her body and patrasche overheard and looked as if she was thinking wtf Subaru!?
緑の部屋で、スバルが幻のメィリィの体のこと言ってて、パトラッシュが「は?何言ってんの!?」って顔してたの草ギャル
Skoro-Crusader
read my edit, tbh I can#t decide between the two theories I have now (the old and the edit one), but the edit one seems a bit more clearer
追記読んで。正直、今ある2つの考察(前のやつと追記のやつ)で迷ってるけど、追記の方が少し分かりやすい気がする。普通くん
Creepy-Tradition8571
I took Rams confrontation to be a bit of misleading from the author. I think she took notice that Subaru (pretending to not have lost his memories) is not interacting or showing concern whatsoever to Rem. Perhaps a mixture?
ラムの詰め寄りは作者のミスリードだと見た。スバルが記憶喪失を隠しつつ、レムを全く気にしない違和感に気づいたのかも。考察くん
Firm-Marzipan2811
Barusu was The Imposter. 0 Imposters remain.
バルスがインポスターだった。残りインポスター0人。普通くん
Canye_NE
Meili was goated this episode. Pulling back her facade to reveal the confused, wild child beneath, then having her lash out at Subaru in his head? The way she appeared out of nowhere, almost like she was jumpscaring him? “Murder becomes a habit”? Cinema. Elsa and Capella really did a number on her development, can’t wait for Subaru (who now knows all about it) to address it in a future loop.
メィリィ今回マジで神回だった。仮面を剥がして混乱した野生児の本性が見えて、スバルの頭の中で彼女が突然現れて襲いかかる演出、ほぼジャンプスケアだよな。「殺しは癖になる」ってセリフも映画級。エルサとカペラが彼女の成長に深く関わってると読める。全部知ったスバルが次のループでどう向き合うか楽しみだ。考察くん
khriku
For the record, posted as most of the team is unavailable at the moment, enjoy the episode anime onlies. Everyone is having fun being sick or doing thesis for university. "Fun" is eternal. insert Sega Saturn Sonic screenshot here
一応、今チームほぼ不在やから投稿したで。アニメ勢は楽しんでな。皆、病気か卒論で“楽しい”中や。“楽しさ”は永遠ンゴ。2ちゃん
ibbolia
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I was half kidding when I brought up ghosts last week. Yet here we have a ghost episode. Or I guess Meili is more like a perfect copy of her memories that just lives in Subaru's head now. Like Nail from DBZ Abridged. Absolutely curious if she sticks around after a reset. Do I want to know what Meili was asking for? Probably not. Ram is acting suspicious, but given whatever is pretending to be Natsuki Subaru isn't a great actor (at least to the audience), I think it's still her? Which raises the question of why she's basically in on the murder, or at least entertaining the idea of not telling everyone else.
先週ゴーストの話を半分冗談で出したら、本当に幽霊回じゃん。メィリィはスバルの頭に住む記憶コピーっぽい?ラムも怪しいし、殺人を黙ってる理由が謎。普通くん
Mysterious-Book2146
Meili thought Subaru had a key to who she was as a person because he talked about how she should be herself even if he was acting weird. Deep down Meili wishes to know who she is outside of the doll she feels like she is.
スバルが変でも「自分らしくいろ」って言ったから、メィリィは自分を知る鍵やと思ったんやな。人形じゃない自分を知りたいんや。2ちゃん
sury_sama
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What the actual fuck is happening? So the theory I made fun of last week, that there is an alternate Subaru switching back to murder meili, was kinda true??? I mean that's what the anime implied... And we get Capella????!!??? That was Capella right? She's the mother? This ep was so short. What's in store for next eps?? Also, screw Crunchyroll -- I read last week that it's "Murder Becomes a Habit" and after watching the ep, pretty sure that is what it should've been named.
マジで何が起きてるの?先週バカにしたあの説、別のスバルがメィリィ殺すために戻ってるってやつ、割と当たってた??アニメもそう匂わせてたよね…しかもカペラ登場??あれカペラだよね?母親なの?今回短すぎ。次回どうなるんだ?あとCrunchyrollマジ勘弁、タイトル「殺しが習慣になる」の方が絶対良かったわ。普通くん
khriku
Capella seems to have adopted her after she was a wild beast yes... GREAT a fucking shapeshifter to deal with, also we are on an arc with someone clearly controlling Subaru and Rem's body to top it off
Capella、あの子が野獣やった頃に拾ったっぽいな…最悪や、クソ変身能力者まで相手とか。しかもSubaruとRemの体も操られてる章やん2ちゃん
Skoro-Crusader
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so, before you think I’m spoilering: No this is a theory that I have built up throughout watching the series and considering multiple possibilities: I doubt that there’s an alter ego Subaru has, rather my theory is: It’s not him, but a gluttony archbishop. Roy or one of them. We know that there are two and only of one of them the abilities are 100% specifically named in Arc5, while the abilities of the other Gluttony Archbishop were not even remotely teasered. What are my reasons for thinking it’s that Gluttony Archbishop?: 1. Subaru looses his memory twice. There is only one entity in the entire Re0 world we know with abilities to take memories away 2. I’ve compared the voice that appeared behind Subaru in Ep8 and killed him to every other member of the group that was present: There isn’t one with a fitting comparing voice. The only character in the ENTIRE series with an equivalent voice-height/line/sound like the one that decapitated Subaru in E8, was Roy (Gluttony) and his brother. 3. The behaviour, posture and sadistic smiles that Subaru shows in the “killer moments” in e10 only appear in four other characters we know: Petelgeuse, Sirius, Roy & Lye. But both Petelgeuse & Sirius are dead, so the only one with these sadistic smiles and postures remaining are: Lye & Roy 4. I found it confusing that there is only one sin (gluttony) with two archbishops: Roy & Lye, so I asked Google what the names of the gluttony archbishops in re:0 anime were, and the answer was not Roy & Lye, but: Roy, Lye AND Rui/Louis. There’s an entirely new third gluttony archbishop Louis/Rye whos abilities we don’t know. No problem
ネタバレじゃなく考察だけど、あれはスバルの別人格ではなく暴食の大罪司教(ロイ/ライ/ルイ)。記憶喪失、声、嗜虐的な笑みが伏線に見える。考察くん
ShadowKnifing
Small note Sirius isn't dead she was captured and taken to the capital by felt + reinhardt in episode 1. Also we saw the third gluttony in s3
Sirius死んでないよ、1話でフェルト+ラインハルトに捕まって王都に連行されただけ。あと3人目の暴食もS3で出てたじゃん。普通くん
Skoro-Crusader
ye i missinput. mb. But when did we see the 3rd gluttony in s3?
あー打ちミスった、めんご!でもS3で3人目の暴食っていつ出てたっけ?ギャル
ShadowKnifing
Episode 16 against otto felt + beatrice
16話、オットー+フェルト+ベアトリスって感じだったな普通くん
ZedLa04
The last episode of season 3 she shows up.
S3最終話で彼女出てくるよ。感情くん
SightlessReality
Rui appeard around the end of s3. She saved Lye from Otto, Betty, Felt & the others.
RuiはS3終盤あたりに出てたよ。Otto、Betty、FeltたちからLyeを助けてた。普通くん
Harbiter
Poor Meilli went through such a horrible life... I didn't think Capella was the "mother" she mentioned before.
メィリィかわいそすぎる…あんな地獄みたいな人生とか。前に言ってた「母親」がカペラとは思わんかったわ。2ちゃん
Setowi
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"I'm gonna have the best time ever!!!" -Natsuki Subaru Well Subaru continues having the worst time ever, even developing child murdering tendency now. Meili in his head is certainly not helping that. The way the book of the dead was shown was spectacular and does leave little to no room of imagination as to who she really is, turning Meili into all sorts of creatures to ... mindbreak her more? Well Subaru is certainly going to have a grand ol time if he wants to take out Ram now...
「最高の時間になるぞ!!!」-菜月昂 なのにスバルは最悪続きで、今度は子供殺しまで。頭の中のメィリィも最悪。次はラムか…きついな。普通くん
sury_sama
Hey Setowi!! I have a question --- Didn't Capella need to use Dragon blood to cause transformations and she herself couldn't control what others transformed into? The way she kept changing Meili -- I thought Capella was only capable of doing that to herself, not others.
おいSetowi!! 質問なんやけど、カペラって変身に龍の血必要で、他人の変化は制御できんのちゃうん?メィリィ変えまくってて混乱したわ2ちゃん
Setowi
No the dragon blood just tortures her victims, her transformations are her authority.
いや、竜の血は被害者を苦しめるだけで、変身は彼女の権能だよ。普通くん
Dylan_VS_Comics
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I have a bad feeling that with the strong focus on Meilee’s backstory and just how long this loop has lasted that this loop with Meilees murder might end up being set in stone… Just a feeling I'm getting, but this loop feels so important and with how trigger happy Satella has been with respawn points, it just feels like something that's likely to happen... And could you imagine how much that would psychologically mess with Subaru even more? This is a Subaru that hasn't learned to value his own life, what if tries to kill himself to escape being confronted by Ram, and instead he respawns just right in front of her again. Also gotta love how Elsa is still making appearances even though its been two season since she's last been relevant. Wonder what excuse they'll come up with to show her again in Season 5
メィリィの過去にやたら尺割いてるし、このループ長すぎるからメィリィ殺しのループがそのまま確定するんちゃうかって嫌な予感するンゴ…セーブポイントもサテラが乱発しとるし。スバル自殺で逃げようとしても目の前に戻されるとか精神ガチで壊れるやん。あとエルサ2期ぶりに出てきて草、5期でどんな理由で再登場すんねやろ2ちゃん
thatonefatefan
I'm really liking how the anime has been handling emotional/mental torture this season. It feels gross in a way it simply didn't in the previous seasons. I don't think any kind of violent death could come close to the feelings this episode gave. 10/10, maybe the best episode of the season for now.
今期の精神的・感情的な拷問の描き方、かなり好き。過去とは違う気持ち悪さがある。どんな惨い死より今話の方がキツかった。10/10、今期ベストかも。普通くん
dardardarner
You know it's peak when you feel extremely stressed and anxious the second you hit the play button. That's been me for the past three episodes.
再生押した瞬間から不安とストレスMAXとか、これぞ神回…ここ3話ずっとそれ。無理、しんどすぎるッ!感情くん
DahNotMightEnzo
Holy fucking shit, poor Meili, I hate capella, what the actual fuck, we are all screwed
やばすぎる、メィリィかわいそう。カペラマジで嫌い。なんだよこれ、もう全員終わりじゃん普通くん
jayman099
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There is no WAY I have to wait a week after that. I thought last week's was bad for the wait but holy. When I saw the thumbnail Crunchyroll had for the episode, I did not think what it actually was in the episode. Im loving this season's direction and overall plot. Ram probably using clairvoyance to see through Patrasche's eyes was so clever. If this Subaru thinks he can just kill Ram, hes got another thing coming. I cant wait for an explanation on whoever that was talking to Meili after Subaru went through the books. So sad to see that the Subaru we have rn thinks the "old" Subaru everyone loves so much is the same guy who's talking incredibly inconsiderately and murdering Meili. Gosh the "Natsuki Subaru Murder Mystery" got me by the neck hard. Also I think Shaula definitely hid or destroyed that body. She somehow knows anything that goes on in the tower and is just serving her master. I need the next epjsode N O W
この先1週間待つとか無理すぎる。サムネから内容全然予想できなかった。 ・ラムがパトラッシュの視界を千里眼で借りてたの巧妙すぎる ・スバルを殺せると思ってるならとんだ思い違いだと思われる ・本を読んだ後メィリィと話してた奴の正体、説明求む ・今のスバルが「みんなが愛する旧スバル」と、無神経に殺しをする奴を同一視してるの悲しい 「菜月昂殺人事件」に完全に心掴まれた。シャウラは絶対死体を隠すか消してる。塔の全てを把握してお師様に仕えてるって考察ができる。次回今すぐ観たい。考察くん
khriku
last week will be the last episode before the break. Will you survive a 3 months break period?
来週が休止前最後のエピソードか。3ヶ月の休止期間、みんな耐えられる?普通くん
natsumiNH
the break will only be a month and a half or so thankfully
休止はありがたいことに1か月半くらいで済むっぽいじゃん!ギャル
jayman099
This... this is a joke right?
これ…これ冗談だよな?普通くん
khriku
maybe not 3 months, I didn't check how long it will be, but yes the break is real. ready for it? They likely will stop at a cliffhanger that will piss you off just in case. Re:zero loves to stop at the worst time ever during breaks, Tappei likes to see us suffer. Next week will be last episode before the break
3ヶ月かは知らんけど、休止はガチ。覚悟しとけ。どうせブチ切れる引きで止めるやろ。来週が休止前ラストや。2ちゃん
jayman099
Im going to break like a kitkat bar 🫠
やば、まじでKitKatみたいにポキッと折れそうなんだけど🫠ギャル
khriku
would you like to fall into forbidden territory and read the novels? The devil tempts you... to join the readers side
禁断の領域に踏み込んで原作小説読まない?悪魔が囁いてるぞ…読者側に来いって。普通くん
jayman099
I think that part of the forbidden library is waiting for me after the anime series is finished. I dont wanna be comparing or thinking about what was cut out while watching the anime. I want to see how the anime is on its own two feet. But the coming wait... ahhh, my brain trembles~
禁書庫に手を出すのはアニメ完走後だな。カットを気にせず、アニメ単体の完成度を見たい。でも待ち時間が…ああ、脳が震える〜考察くん
Kyoukaiwaifu
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Damn its unlucky Meili name appears in the library in the first floor, and close to beatrice Elsa : Youre my sister now, happy surprise Adoption! Meili make a Elsa doll/plushie T-T aaaaw and she searcehd for her book wait, in my TL he said "we", + this way of talking + "flavor"... does the second last subaru in Meili flashback was one of the glutonny/fake rem ? that would explain he killed her, then write someting on amnesiac baru arm crap, Ram thinks its nor subaru (technically right since he lost his memory)...wait does she has plan given the "silence, play along" finger ?
メィリィの名前が一階の書庫にあってベアトリスの近くとか運悪すぎやろ。エルサ「もう姉妹やで」で養子草。メィリィがエルサ人形作ってるの泣けるンゴT-T ワイの字幕やと「我々」言うてたし喋り方とか…回想のスバル、暴食の偽レムやったんちゃう?それなら殺した説明つくやん。ラムは別人扱いやけど(記憶2ちゃん
Fantastic_Clothes
The "slience, play,along" finger is just her showing Subaru (amnesiabaru) that she knows hes suspicious because he did that gesture to Patrasche. She probably thinks hes a fake Subaru
あの「黙って合わせろ」って指サイン、記憶喪失スバルを怪しんでるって示してるだけだね。偽物だと思ってそう。普通くん
ibbolia
I'm starting to think the library arrangement has some sort of will to it. Especially since Betty found it and not someone who would have read the book before Subaru.
図書館の並び、意思ある気がしてきた…Bettyが見つけたの、スバルより先に読む誰かじゃなくて奇跡すぎるッ!感情くん
myrmonden
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n...NANI THE FUUUUK THE ENDING RAM IS LIKE I GOT YOU BARUSU I GOT YOUR BAAAACK me and Patrasche we got YUOUR BACK BARUSUS !!!!! I am sitting here like.....DID SHE MAKE Patrasche EAT MEILI BODY LIKE WTF RAM W TF WHAT A FUCK I have to admit do if this what happened Ram jumps high up on the best girl chart, trust worthy ally, all the Barasu mean comments are forgiven 😄 Ok so meili bit was scary and somewhat hilarious I am the only ?= all of her evil faces are freaking scary but also like some distresed comedy gold, I am making an edit right away lol Seems my overall theroy that gluttony can control subaru because of memory taken(same with rem) is true and he DID kill Meilli but not because he wanted to probably . reaction/review
な、なんだこのエンディング!?ラムが「バルスは私とパトラッシュが守るから」って…パトラッシュにメィリィの体食わせたの!?ラム怖すぎwもしそうならベストガール急上昇、今までの塩対応も許すわ😄 メィリィの悪い顔マジ怖いけどコメディとしても最高。暴食が記憶奪ってスバル操れる説当たってたっぽい、望んでないけど殺しちゃったんだ普通くん
whiterice7
I never considered that this third gluttony (Rui) has the ability to possess someone if she eats their memories.
てか第3の暴食(ルイ)って、記憶を食べた相手に憑依できるとか考えたことなかったんだけど!ギャル
myrmonden
I assumed so when I saw Rem killing Subaru like she can turn into Julius, Rem and Subaru Or control Is my guess
レムがスバル殺してるの見てそう思った…Julius、レム、スバルに変身できる?それか操ってる?って予想。感情くん
whiterice7
I knew she had the ability to transform as we saw so at the end of S3, so I was leaning towards that why we saw Rem. As a transformation rather than a possession
S3終盤で変身能力あるの見てたから、Remが出たのも憑依じゃなくて変身だと思ってた。普通くん