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白い星空のアステリズム
竜車の中で目覚めたスバルは、ベアトリスから全員無事に合流できたこと、プレアデス監視塔の内部に到達したことを聞かされる。すると、スバルを「お師様」と呼び、塔の星番を名乗るシャウラの熱烈な抱擁が歓迎する。
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Markosan_DnD
Imagine having Regulus Corneas ranting about his rights in your soul, hasn't Subaru suffered enough?
まじで笑うんだけど、レグルス・コーネアスが魂の中で自分の権利について延々と語ってくるってやばくね!?スバルもう十分苦労してるのにさ〜笑ギャル+905
Frontier246
Even dead the man is still whining about his rights!
確かに、死んでもまだ権利について愚痴ってるのかよって感じだね。スバルも十分苦労してるのに。普通くん+405
ClemFire
You can kill the man but not his hater energy
まじそれ!笑 死んでも恨み続けるスタイルやばくね?ガチのアンチ魂って感じじゃん!ギャル+212
SamusTheCat
A generational hater. Hating from beyond the grave
まさに世代を超えたアンチだな。墓の向こうからでも憎しみは消えねぇってか普通くん+33
YonSaiSucks
Imagine having Petelguese and Regulus talking shit about you after every death telling you what you did wrong in the most cryptic shit ever lmao
マジでそれな!笑 死ぬたびにペテルギウスとレグルスが頭ん中で「お前のここが悪い」って超難解な言い方で説教してくるのやばくね?スバルもう十分苦しんでるのにさ〜!ギャル+292
garfe
It's like whenever you die in the Batman Arkham games, the villain will talk shit at him.
ふむ…死ぬたびにペテルギウスとレグルスが我が耳元で囁くとは、まさに地獄の沙汰よな。バットマンが敵に罵られる如く、我が魂は死の度に嘲笑されるのだ。中二病+142
zaxls
Id rather get eaten to bits by rabbits
【返信】 ペテルギウスとレグルスに死ぬたびに説教されるくらいなら、ワイはウサギにバラバラに食われる方がマシやわwww2ちゃん+12
Roeclean
Are you sure about that. 😱
それ本当に大丈夫なの…?😱普通くん+9
nhansieu1
and Satella too spamming I love you
ペテルギウスとレグルスに死ぬたびに「何がダメだったか」説教されるの草 しかもサテラからは「愛してる」連呼されるとか地獄すぎるやろwww2ちゃん+8
garfe
I shot straight up when the first words of the episode were "Ano sa..."
確かに、レグルス・コーネアスの権利論が魂に宿るなど、スバルの苦難は最早運命の悪戯を通り越して呪いの領域だな…あの「あのさ…」という第一声で我が魂は覚醒した。中二病+107
CelioHogane
Can't say the VA didn't do a masterpiece of a job depicting the most realistic annoying piece of shit imaginable that you WOULD HEAR IN REAL LIFE.
まじそれな!あの「あのさ…」で始まる瞬間のやばみやばくね?笑 声優さんの演技がリアルすぎてマジでムカつくのに笑っちゃうんだよね笑 てか、現実にありそうなうざさを完璧に表現してるってマジ神じゃね?ギャル+24
AceSoldia
Lmao I hope he doesn't hear them constantly..it must be something about the location
確かに、常に聞こえてたら精神的にやばそうだな…場所の影響とかあるのかね普通くん+93
LunarGhost00
Not even death can keep this man from yapping.
同意しすぎるッ!死に戻りしてもなお語り続けるレグルス、マジで呪いすぎる。スバルにはもう十分苦労させてるのに、魂の中まで説教されるとか無理でしょ。感情くん+75
Longjumping-Ad-9242
Not even death can deny his right to yap!
死んでもなお語り続ける権利は誰にも奪えねぇってことかwww ガチでスバルは喋り倒すマンやな2ちゃん+18
CitronClassic672
Imagine Subaru gets to the point where he has all the witch factors and every death just has every archbishop ranting at him.
それな。スバルに全大罪司教が頭の中で説教してくる地獄、想像しただけでキツすぎるわ。普通くん+64
Rezero_shiper
Nonstop lengendary larp
それな!スバルが全部の魔女因子集めたら、死ぬたびに大罪司教が脳内で永遠に喧嘩してくるって最高すぎるッ!エモいし無理!感情くん+14
CelioHogane
Well he didn't die, he only fell unconcious, wich is ironically enough a less common thing for him.
確かに、死なずに気絶だけで済んだのは逆に珍しいパターンだよね。普通くん+11
NecroCannon
I fucking love that it’s apart of Subaru’s suffering now, honestly Betelgeuse I can live with, but Regulus is like… how tf you gonna shut his yapping up?
それな!まじでスバルの苦しみにレグルスが加わったのヤバすぎじゃん?笑 ベテルギウスはまだ許せるんだけどさ、レグルスってマジで…どうやってあのクソ長い権利論を黙らせんの?無理すぎる!ギャル+45
CelioHogane
Yeah, Betelgeuse wasn't evil he was just corrupted. Regulus is just a dipshit.
確かに、ペテルギウスは悪って感じじゃなくてただ歪んでただけだよね。 レグルスはただのクソ野郎って感じ。普通くん+10
ModieOfTheEast
I was wondering if that was just a bad dream or if that implied that Subaru truly took Regulus' power as well (like he did when he defeated Sloth). I don't remember what the exact term was, but Betty mentioned it at the start of season 2.
まあ、あれが単なる悪夢なのか、それともスバルが怠惰を倒した時みたいにレグルスの力も本当に継承したのか、気になってたんだよな。ベティが2期の最初に言ってた何かだった気がするけど、正確な用語は覚えてない。ドライおじ+20
Longjumping-Ad-9242
His witchfactor, the Authority of Greed
それな!!「悪い夢だっただけ」とかじゃなくて、スバルがマジでレグルスの魔女因子・強欲の権能を継承したって暗示だよね?しんどすぎるッ!感情くん+14
Crystality
I want to say this episode is hinting that he did. I just think on how Sloth said he was a wonderful vessel when he took over him, that he was referring to being able to acquire his authority of sloth/ maybe he's also adaptable to the other authorities? Or someone randomly has greed now and he's just stuck with the archbishop yapping away at him
このエピソード、その暗示だと思うな。怠惰がスバルの体乗っ取った時に「素晴らしい器だ」って言ったのは、怠惰の権能を獲得できるって意味だったんじゃないかな。他の権能にも適応できるって可能性もあるし。それか誰かが強欲の権能持ってて、スバルの中に大罪司教がずっと喋りかけてるってオチかもね。普通くん+5
FlugelTheSage
Local man cannot stop ranting about his rights.
まあ、レグルスの権利論が頭の中で永遠にループしてるって考えると、スバルも大概だよな。ドライおじ+9
GleamingGalacticGarm
Plot twist - Neither of them have figured out where they are, they’re just ranting at each-other.
確かに、二人ともお互いの状況を理解してないまま言い争ってるだけってオチだったら笑えるなw普通くん+7
vp797
Julius just found out that one of his goats was washed, it's so over
うわマジで!?ジュリアスのヤギ洗われちゃったのやばくね笑 それ終わっただろ〜ギャル+881
Frontier246
Julius: "Well, I guess I can't tell Reinhard about any of this."
ジュリアス「これはラインハルトには言えんな…」 草ァ!まさかのヤギ洗われてた発覚で終了のお知らせかよwww ジュリアスがそう言うってことは相当やばいンゴねぇ…2ちゃん+427
AceSoldia
Lmao i.mean Reinhard would probably laugh
確かに、ラインハルトは笑い飛ばしそうだね普通くん+313
shakertouzett1
It wouldn't be the first time his family let him down
まじかよw ラインハルトの家族が彼を裏切るのなんて初めてじゃないしな笑wwwおじ+329
Simplyaperson4321
Reinhard would probably try even harder, to make up for his anscestor's shorcomings.
確かに、ラインハルトは先祖の不始末を帳消しにするためにもっと頑張りそうだね。普通くん+7
RelativeMundane9045
Eh, not exactly like his dad is a stand-up fella so I think he'd cope.
いや、ジュリウスの親父もロクなもんじゃないしな。ラインハルトなら何とか乗り切れるやろwww2ちゃん+77
Etheo
Reinhard: new fone who dis?
ジュリアスに「ラインハルトには言えないな」って言われても、ラインハルト本人は「新着?」って感じだろwwwwおじ+11
redditcalculus421
when the family starts dropping lore about the great grandparents and you lowkey realize its a miracle you came out okay.
確かに、家族の過去話聞いてると自分がまともに育ったのが奇跡に思えてくるよね普通くん+210
ClemFire
Makes me wonder how Reinhard grew into such a good guy despite his hax powers compared to his distant relative
えっ、ジュリウスのヤギ洗われたん!?やばくね!?笑 てかラインハルトの話だけどさ、あいつチート級の力持ってるのにあんなイイ奴なのまじで謎じゃん?親戚のあいつ(多分ゼクトのこと?)と比べるとさ~ギャル+156
Megamoncha
Probably his blessing of not being asshole.
確かに、ラインハルトの「クソ野郎にならない加護」こそが最強の能力でござろうな。武士+237
ClemFire
Underrated blessing we can all use in the real world too
せやな、現代社会でも欲しい祝福やわ。クソ野郎にならん祝福とかガチで草2ちゃん+31
CitronClassic672
Reminds me, are all of Reinhard’s blessings because he’s the sword saint, or does he naturally have all the divine blessings in the world and also just happen to be the sword saint?
それな。ラインハルトって剣聖だから祝福があるのか、それとも最初から世界中の加護を全部持っててたまたま剣聖でもあるのか、どっちなんだろうな。普通くん+13
animdalf
Probably too much guilt about causing the death of his grandma (allegedly).
確かに、ラインハルトほどの力を誇る者があれほど善人に育ったのは、祖母を亡き者にしたという罪の意識ゆえかと推察するでござる。武士+55
Matrix_2k00
What do you mean allegedly he already caused her death last season.
いや、「allegedly(〜とされる)」ってどういう意味だよ。前シーズンで実際に婆ちゃん死なせてるじゃん。普通くん+10
khriku
his father is a not so distant relative and is a piece of crap. We all saw how Reinhard's daddy was a piece of shit on season 3... Still a miracle that Reinhard came up to be a good guy with people like these in the family, agreed.
確かに。ラインハルトの父親(遠縁どころか直系の親族)がS3でクズっぷりを晒してたのは印象的だよな。 そんな家族環境でありながら、ラインハルトがあんな人格者に育ったのは奇跡としか言いようがない。血筋や能力に驕らず、正しく強さを使おうとする姿勢は、むしろ周囲の悪影響を跳ね返す内省の強さの証左だと思われる。考察くん+8
SmileyTheSmile
"Wait, George Washington owned slaves?"
「え、ジュリアスってヤギが洗われただけで終わるの!?笑 確かにそれはもう終わりだなwww」感情くん+35
RedRocket4000
原文
Yep but freed them in his will and called for Slavery to be illegal. These don't erase the first sin even if the hypocrisy was caused by his ongoing agricultural experiments he did not want disturbed by losing workforce. He trying to increase food supply and was involved in helping the natives by providing crops to rotate and the best current rotation information and other knowledge to the natives as he stated their poor quality corn crops had caused starvation at times. Also provided clothing making technology and the crops for that. Washington not becoming King is one major plus, setting example of only serving two terms, winning the revolution and many other accomplishments. He was politically a God never faced challenger for President could have made self King with ease. Some of his officers offered even. Jefferson could not legally free his slaves always owed to much money. Banned the importation of slaves into the US. I think the owning slaves should always be brought up but failing to mention Washington did free them in the end and Jefferson could not free them also should be mentioned.
そうだね、でも遺言で解放したし奴隷制を違法にするよう呼びかけてたよ。 最初の罪が消えるわけじゃないけど、農業実験で労働力失いたくなかったっていう偽善的な事情もあった。食糧増産や先住民への作物ローテーション指導とかもやってたし。 ワシントンが王にならなかったのは大きい。二期制の模範を示したし、革命に勝った功績もある。政治的には神で、簡単に王になれたのに。 ジェファーソンは借金多くて法的に奴隷を解放できなかったけど、輸入は禁止した。 奴隷所有は常に話題にすべきだけど、ワシントンは最終的に解放したことと、ジェファーソンができなかったことも併せて言うべきだと思う。普通くん+5
animdalf
Julius: "But we built statues of him and everything!" Subaru: "first time?"
ジュリアス「でも俺たちは彼の像まで建てたんだぞ!」 スバル「初めてか?」ってマジで草 これ完全にスバルの「慣れてる感」がエグいwww 悲しみのジェットコースターすぎるッ!感情くん+19
CitronClassic672
When she’s slandering your GOAT but she lowkey right
確かに、ジュリアスがヤギを洗ったってバレたのは終わったな… 彼女がお前の推しをディスってるけど、実はちょっと正論だったりするんだよな。普通くん+15
Zeruma_
For a dude who loved to skip school Subaru is really damn smart .
学校サボってた奴とは思えんくらいスバル頭いいンゴねぇ…ガチで草2ちゃん+668
ZedLa04
Subaru has a special connection to astronomy too, since his name is after a constellation, so he always had interest in them.
確かに、スバルって名前自体が星にちなんでるし、元から星には興味あったんだよね。学校サボってたのに頭いいのは納得。普通くん+544
Tanyan-nightchord
The Pleiades is also the European of equivalent for the asterism he is named after so this place translated into pure Japanese would probably be something like Subaru Toshokan(昴図書館) Subaru library lol.
確かに、スバルの名前に由来する「昴」の欧州版がプレアデスだというのは興味深い考察だな。つまり監視塔は「昴図書館」と訳せるわけで、スバル自身がこの塔と深く結びついている伏線とも解釈できる。制作陣は名前の意味を意識してこの舞台を選んだんだろうな。考察くん+256
Golden_Phi
So it is his library after all.
つまりやっぱり彼の図書館ってことか。普通くん+59
ClemFire
He has always been a curious person, and I feel like he learned the constellations as a kid to impress his friends
それな!笑 スバルって昔から好奇心旺盛じゃん?子供の頃に星座覚えたのも友達にドヤるためって感じだよね〜まじでそういうとこ好き!ギャル+200
Human_Potato2264
Subaru is like a nerd that never went to school but can list you emperors in the habsburg family on top of his head... wait isnt that just autism?
それな。サボってた癖に頭良いのずるいよな。でもハプスブルク家の皇帝を暗記してるって……それって単なるオタクじゃね?普通くん+182
DrMobius0
I think that's relatively normal for anyone with an interest in a niche subject
せやな、ニッチな分野にハマったら誰でもそうなるやろwww ワイもアニメの設定はスラスラ言えるけど学校の勉強はからっきしやで2ちゃん+58
RedRocket4000
Your correct it can be a trait by it self.
確かに!それだけで立派な特性になりうるよなッ!感情くん+8
willi5x
Weaponized autism is one of my favorite tropes.
確かに、武器化されたオタク知識って最高だよね。スバルもまさにそれだわ。普通くん+18
BosuW
Now that his Isekai fantasy delusions have been thoroughly shredded he's doing the rational thing and starting to question why the fuck this world probably millions of light-years away from Earth has so much Earth inspired lore Also Subaru being an astronomy enthusiast with social troubles kinda reminds me of Bocchi lol. I think she'd solve the puzzle too.
確かに。異世界転移ものの主人公によくある「俺TUEEE幻想」が完全に打ち砕かれたからこそ、スバルは合理的に地球から何百万光年も離れたこの世界に、なんでこんなに地球由来の伝承が存在するのか疑問を持ち始めたんだろうな。 あと、スバルが天文オタクで人間関係に悩んでるのを見ると、ぼっちちゃん思い出すな。彼女ならパズルも解けたんじゃないかという考察ができる。考察くん+122
ClemFire
Oh really that is an interesting comparison though I see more of Kita in him than Bocchi because is social and a yapper at heart but was beaten down by his anxieties.
確かに面白い比較だね。でも俺はボッチより喜多に近いと思う。社交的でおしゃべりな性格なのに、不安に押し潰されてた感じがするし。普通くん+31
RedRocket4000
Billions of light years even or flat out different Universe all together. That a question for Astronomy Nerds how far from earth do you need to scramble the star field to not be able to recognize it at all. Being able to reach the moon that close I'd say this totally different universe.
確かに、この描写を分析すると、星の配置が完全に変わっている点から異なる宇宙である可能性が高い。天文学的に見れば、地球から数億光年離れただけでは星図のパターンは部分的に認識可能な場合がある。しかし月にこれほど接近できる距離で星野が全く別物なら、別宇宙への転移と考察するのが妥当だ。制作陣が科学的整合性をどこまで意識しているかは別問題だが、この設定はスバルの状況をより非現実的で孤立したものにする意図的な演出と思われる。考察くん+25
slicer4ever
The stars we can see with the naked eye are actually pretty close stars relatively speaking(like only a few hundred lys away is average, with a few of the brightest stars being upto 1000ly away). So it doesnt take going very far to get completely different stars and constellations(at least for the unaided eye anyway)
確かに、肉眼で見える星って実は結構近い距離の星だけなんだよね(平均で数百光年、明るいのでも最大1000光年くらい)。だから宇宙のスケールで考えると、そんなに遠くに行かなくても全然違う星空になるんだなって思うわ。普通くん+16
Eunuchest
Just a hobby i guess. Convenient hobby for his situation but still
学校サボるの好きだった割にスバルってガチで頭いいよなwww まあ趣味ってとこか。状況に合った便利な趣味っちゃ便利やけどな2ちゃん+28
AGJustin05
uncomfortably convenient. it's to the point of requiring the *exact same* knowledge and thought process as flugel, and given everything they've alluded to thus far, it doesn't look like they're trying to be subtle about subaru's supposed connection with him.
確かに、ちょっと出来すぎだよね。今までの伏線見る限り、フリューゲルと全く同じ知識と思考プロセスが必要ってレベルで、スバルとの関係を隠そうとしてない感じがする。普通くん+63
OmegaQuake
well, the merchant girl comes from a town that speaks the kansai dialect and she mentions last season that her founder of her town replicated the japanese aesthetic and built it. The japanese style inn they were sleeping in last season was based on this persons design. he was most definetly another isekaid human. Subaru even notes this in his head, Flugel is at least another isekaied Human.....
せやな。商人の娘(アナスタシア)の故郷って関西弁使う町やろ?前シーズンに彼女が言ってたけど、町の創設者が日本の美意識を再現して作ったらしいンゴ。スバルたちが泊まってた和風旅館もその人の設計やったんや。つまりフリューゲルも確実に異世界転生者やったってことやな。スバル自身も頭の中で気づいてたし、草生えるわ。2ちゃん+35
PotatEXTomatEX
I mean, look at his name... Subaru is the name of the Pleiades Star Cluster. Kid had an interest.
確かに!スバルってプレアデス星団の名前だしな。偶然すぎて逆に怖いレベルだわ……しかもフリューゲルと同じ知識と思考パターンが必要って、もう運命とかじゃなくて設計されてる感あるし。しんどすぎるッ!感情くん+21
Myrkrvaldyr
There are so many people who don't do well in classrooms but learn much better on their own with a different methodology. Subaru is just part of a big group of people for whom the outdated Prussian model doesn't work.
確かに。学校の型にはまった教育システムが合わないだけで、スバルは独自の学習スタイルで物事を深く理解できるタイプなんだよな。プレアデス監視塔での状況判断や戦略立案を見れば、彼の実戦的な知能の高さは明らかだ。むしろ、教室で教わる受動的な知識より、自ら経験から学ぶ能動的な知識の方が彼の生存確率を上げていると言える。考察くん+15
ruzn0pace69
Subaru more so stopped trying rather than being unable to learn in school. It had to do with feeling lesser than his dad as we see in s2 ep4
せやな、スバルの場合は学校で勉強できへんわけじゃなくて、やる気なくしてただけやんな。S2の4話で父親と比べて劣等感感じてたのが原因やろ。ワイもわかるわ、そういうの。2ちゃん+19
OtherwiseProgrammer9
He put all his intelligence points in astronomy
それな!スバルって学校サボってた癖にめっちゃ頭いいじゃん! 天文だけはガチで知識詰め込んでたんだね笑ギャル+7
Kallenders
原文
The character animation on Shaula is a highlight of this episode for me! The sage isn't Shaula but Flugel (who planted the giant tree we saw in Season 1) and who Shaula believes is Subaru due to his ~~green~~ aura. Note that Shaula said "no problem" in Engrish, which is why Subaru said "where did you get that phrase from", also saying "Hell's Snipe" in Engrish Julius's the only one shocked that his inital perception of Reid doesn't match up with Shaula's experiences lmao Subaru finally using his star knowledge! (Also Shaula getting jealous that there's another 'Shaula' that Master knows lol)
シャウラのキャラアニメーションが今回の見どころだね! 賢者はシャウラじゃなくてフリューゲル(1期で出てきた巨樹を植えた人物)で、シャウラはその緑のオーラからスバルだと思い込んでるみたい。 シャウラが「ノープロブレム」って英語っぽく言ったからスバルが「どこで覚えたんだよ」ってツッコんでたし、「ヘルズ・スナイプ」も英語風発音だったね。 ジュリアスだけが、自分のレイドに対する印象とシャウラの経験が一致しなくて驚いてたのが笑えたw スバルがついに星の知識を使った! (シャウラが「師匠が知ってるもう一人のシャウラ」に嫉妬してたのも面白い)普通くん+653
NecronLord_Europe
> due to his green aura. So that's why he's the aura monster, he smells like shit.
草www オーラモンスターってそういうことかよ 臭そうすぎてワロタwww2ちゃん+373
ClemFire
At least he finally changed from his track suit
少なくとも彼がようやくジャージから着替えたのは良かったね普通くん+166
Eunuchest
You say that like it helped. The stink goes deeper
確かに!てか服変えたくらいじゃどうにもなんないよね笑 根本的にやばいもんはやばいし!ギャル+74
DarkChaplain
Speaking of, Shaula's outfit suspiciously shares the same general color pattern as Subaru's tracksuit. You can even make the case that her going around so exposed is part of it, since her pale skin echoes the white of his tracksuit's torso area.
せやな。つーかシャウラの服装、スバルのジャージと色味一緒やんwww露出多いのも、肌の白さがジャージの白い部分に対応してるって考えると納得やな2ちゃん+15
bedsheetsniffer
“You need to get the fuck out (in?) of my watchtower you smell like pure unfettered ass”
「俺の監視塔から出て行け、お前くせえんだよ」ってシャウラが言ってそうだなw普通くん+14
Human_Potato2264
Shaula uses a lot of Engrish. Either she herself is isekai or flügel was and she is just influenced by him.
シャウラの英語混じりっぷり草生えるわwww 本人が異世界転生者か、フリューゲルがそうでその影響受けてるかやろな どっちにせよ塔の設定ガチで気になるンゴ2ちゃん+342
Frontier246
Considering the tower is designed around Earth astronomy, it's probably likely he taught her Earth phrases/Engrish.
確かに、塔が地球の天文学をベースにしてるって考えると、フリューゲルが彼女に地球の言葉を教えたんだろうね。普通くん+431
zaxls
They also sort of sound like phrases Subaru would come up with, not even taking into account the star lore that he just so happened to know.
それな!塔が地球の天文学ベースってのもエモすぎるし、スバルが考えそうなフレーズなのも熱すぎるッ!星の知識だけじゃなくて、そういうセンスも持ってるの優勝でしょ!感情くん+53
HakaishinChampa
We already know that there was someone else isekai'd in Season 3 or it was at least implied So it wouldn't be too far-fetched for there to be more isekai'd people
せやな。S3でもう異世界転移者が他にもいるって匂わせてたしな ワイもっと大勢いてもおかしくないと思うわ シャウラの英語混じりもその辺関係してそうやな2ちゃん+169
ModieOfTheEast
I mean, the moment that it was revealed that the archbishops' names relate to stars that are only visible in our world, it was clear they were created by someone reincarnated (or summoned). But for more definitive proof, Anastasia mentioned that someone brought the style of building (japanese form) to her country as well.
確かに、大罪司教の名前がこっちの世界の星に由来してるって分かった時点で、転生者(or召喚者)が関わってるのは明らかだったね。アナスタシアが日本の建築様式を持ち込んだ誰かの話もしてたし、より確定的な証拠だと思う。普通くん+172
flashmozzg
> We already know that there was someone else isekai'd in Season 3 or it was at least implied People should really watch breaktime shorts.
それな!ブレイクタイムのショート見てない人は絶対見たほうがいいってマジで思うわ。S3で他にも異世界転移者がいるって示唆されてたし、結構重要な情報だと思うんだよね〜ギャル+19
River_Capulet
Just like Priscilla then
シャウラの英語混じりの口調、プリシラみたいで面白いよね。本人が異世界人かフリューゲルの影響かはわかんないけど、そういうキャラ付け好きだわ。普通くん+15
Human_Potato2264
Roswaal too. When he was beating Subaru to death he uses the word "smaaart" and asked if he used it correctly.
それな!ロズワールもだよ。スバルをボコボコにしながら「すまーと」って言って、使い方合ってるか聞いてたのやばすぎるw感情くん+17
AnusBlaster5000
Is it not blatantly obvious that Subaru is literally Flugel somehow? Look at her character design and everything we know about her and the tower. The Pleiedes Tower literally translated in Japanese would just be Subaru Tower...
それな。スバル=フリューゲル説はほぼ確定じゃない? 彼女のデザインや塔の設定見れば明らかだよね。プレアデス監視塔って日本語に直訳するとスバル塔だし。普通くん+14
Marik-X-Bakura
Definitely seems like the latter to me
確かに後者っぽいよな!シャウラの英語混じりの喋り方、めっちゃ気になるしフリューゲルの影響って考えるのが一番しっくりくるわ。エモい感情くん+10
Frontier246
She's so bubbly, bombastic, and busty! Don't meet your heroes or get them described by someone who actually knew them lol.
シャウラまじで可愛すぎじゃん!明るくて派手で胸もすごいし笑 英雄に会うなって言うけど、実際に知ってる人から話聞くとさらにやばくね?笑ギャル+157
ClemFire
She really feels like how a gender flipped S1 Subaru would act and she makes a big first impression
確かに、S1のスバルを性転換したらこんな感じになりそうだよね。最初のインパクトがすごい。普通くん+150
AceSoldia
Even has the same color scheme
わかるわかる!それってまじでS1のスバルを女体化した感じだよね!しかもカラーリングも一緒じゃん!やばくね!?最初のインパクト強すぎてヤバいんだけど笑ギャル+97
CitronClassic672
Her personality gave me whiplash because I did not expect that from her design and the few scenes she got in the previous episodes.
確かに。見た目と前回までの雰囲気からは想像つかない性格で驚いたわ。普通くん+11
AceSoldia
She's so so busty I can't stop watching
草 マジでデカすぎて目が離せないンゴwww 英雄崇拝とかやめとけってマジそれ 「実物見ると幻滅する」って誰かが言ってたけどワイはそれでも見たいわ2ちゃん+59
YonSaiSucks
>She's so bubbly, bombastic, and busty! Ticks all my boxes
それな。元気で派手でボンッとしてるって完璧じゃん普通くん+43
UberDueler10
> Subaru finally using his star knowledge To be fair, he used it last season as well when dealing with Regulus
それな!スバルやっと星の知識使ったじゃん! でも前シーズンもレグルス戦で使ってたし、今回もその流れだよね〜。てかその知識がめっちゃ活きてるの熱すぎる!ギャル+140
Colarch
Emilia didn't bring it up so she probably didn't remember it, but Flugel has been mentioned one other time, in season 2 during her flashback. Right before Betelgeuse takes in the Sloth factor he says that he was entrusted with it by "Flugel-sama"
【返信元の要約】「今回のシャウラのキャラアニメがハイライトだ!」「賢者はシャウラじゃなくてフリューゲルだ(彼が植えた…)」 エミリアが触れなかったからおそらく覚えていなかったんだろうが、フリューゲルの名はもう一度だけ言及されている。第2期の彼女の回想シーンでな。 ベテルギウスが怠惰の因子を受け取る直前、彼は「フリューゲル様」から託されたと言っている。このセリフ、当時は軽く流されがちだったが、第4期で再評価される伏線だったと思われる。考察くん+126
ClemFire
That is a good catch and makes me wanna rewatch the series again
確かにそれ気づかなかったわ。シーズン2でフリューゲルの名前出てたんだな。また見返したくなってきた。普通くん+34
BosuW
Then she should recognize the name shouldn't she?
せやな、エミリアなら名前くらい覚えててもおかしくないよな2ちゃん+8
Colarch
She should but he only said it once and she was probably more focused on the trauma she was going through than what he was saying so you can't really blame her for not connecting the dots. That was also like a year and a half ago for her at this point
確かに彼女が気づくべきではあるけど、あの時スバルは一度だけ名前を口にしただけだし、彼女はその場のトラウマで頭がいっぱいだったから、結びつかなくても仕方ないと思う。それに彼女にとってはもう1年半前の話だしね。普通くん+64
DragonoidOmega
She also used finger guns when explaining, which wouldn't make sense without the knowledge of pistols existing
シャウラ、指で銃のポーズして説明してたの超かわよかったじゃん!笑 ピストルの存在知らなかったら意味わかんないよね〜まじそれな!ギャル+80
zaxls
I did not notice this, good catch. Also its weird Subaru didnt invent a gun for his personal use now that I think about it. It wouldnt help with huge beasts but would still be usefull. Could also use his knowledge of canons or ballistic missles and teach beatrice enough to make some spells that use them. Kind of simillar to what Rudy does in Mushoku Tensei.
確かにそれ気づかなかったわ。あとよく考えたらスバルが銃を自分用に作らないの変だよね。巨大な魔獣には効かないけど便利そうだし。大砲や弾道ミサイルの知識をベアトリスに教えて魔法化するとかもできそう。無職転生のルーデウスみたいな感じでさ。普通くん+6
jacker1154
It's hard to make one even if he nail the gunpowder, the mechanic behind every gun with his world being magic base tech instead of engineering it would be quite hard. Also Shadow base magic has no physical weight behind them so he couldn't even break a wall with Minya so it couldn't use as anti meterial, however if thing are mana base like people or spirit it's almost lethal.
確かにその考察は興味深い。スバルが銃を作らない理由を考えると、まず火薬の調合自体は可能かもしれないが、この世界の技術基盤は錬金術や魔術ベースで発展してきたため、機械工学の概念が欠如している。つまり、シリンダーや撃発機構といった精密機械を一から設計するのは極めて困難だと思われる。 加えて、シャドウ系魔法は物理的質量を持たないため、ミーニャでは壁すら破壊できない。つまり対物質兵器としては機能しない。しかし逆に、人や精霊のような魔力ベースの存在にはほぼ致命的な効果を発揮する。この特性を踏まえると、むしろスバルは銃ではなく、魔法の特性を活かした戦術を磨く方が合理的という考察ができる。考察くん+11
shad79
原文
>The character animation on Shaula is a highlight of this episode for me! Shaula's reactions in this episode were comedy gold! And the fact that she's voiced by Fairouz Ai makes her character even better. Plus, it was nice to see that her boobs were also very nicely animated ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) >Julius's the only one shocked that his inital perception of Reid doesn't match up with Shaula's experiences lmao Julius's reaction made me laugh out loud. He looked like some fangirl who discovered that her idol's public image didn't match his real personality and couldn't believe it 😆
草 シャウラの作画マジで神ってたわ この回のハイライトやったな シャウラのリアクション全部コメディ金やったし、声がファイルーズあいってのもポイント高い あとシャウラの胸も丁寧に動いてたのはグッジョブやったわ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ジュリウスだけがレイドの印象とシャウラの体験が合わなくて衝撃受けてるの草 あの反応ワイも笑ったわ まるで推しのキャラと実物のギャップにショック受けるガチ恋勢みたいやったンゴ😆2ちゃん+57
AceSoldia
Well he did use his star knowledge to beat Regulus too I think
それな!星の知識でレグルス倒したのもまじでかっこよかったし、シャウラのキャラアニメも神すぎるじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル+53
yurilnw123
Also ponytail + scorpian tail
ポニーテールにサソリの尻尾って組み合わせ最高すぎるッ!シャウラのデザイン優勝だわ感情くん+26
LunarGhost00
> Note that Shaula said "no problem" in Engrish, which is why Subaru said "where did you get that phrase from", also saying "Hell's Snipe" in Engrish I couldn't help but notice that Shaula's color scheme (orange and black) is the same as Subaru's. I wonder if that's something else she picked up from her master.
なるほど、シャウラが「ノープロブレム」とイングリッシュで発言したからスバルが「そのフレーズどこで覚えた」とツッコんだのか。さらに「ヘルズ・スナイプ」もイングリッシュ混じりという点が興味深い。 そしてシャウラのカラーリング(オレンジと黒)がスバルと同一というのは、単なる偶然ではなく、彼女が師匠から受け継いだ要素の一つである可能性が高い。これは服の好みだけでなく、行動パターンや思考様式にも影響していると考察できる。制作陣の意図的な演出だと思われる。考察くん+17
ClemFire
Imagine one of Shaula’s keepsakes is a really old and dirty tracksuit
シャウラの遺品の中にめっちゃ古くて汚れたジャージがあったら面白いな普通くん+13
LunarGhost00
"Of course you're my master. You smell just as bad as this stinky outfit he left behind 400 years ago!"
草ァ!「お師様のニオイがする」って400年前のジャージのニオイかよwww 「お前がワイの師匠や。400年前に置いてったこの臭いジャージと同じ匂いがするンゴ!」 シャウラの執着がキモすぎて笑うわwww2ちゃん+15
joggle1
原文
Shaula is using modern Japanese and modern English despite being completely isolated for 400 years ('snipe' only meant a type of bird in English 400 years ago and Japanese had virtually zero English loan words until after 1868). Nearly all Japanese LN authors don't really pay much attention to etymology, but there is the running gag of Emilia using old Japanese at times, so it's possible that it's a hint of time travel in addition to Flügel coming from Japan.
シャウラが400年間外界から隔絶されていたにも関わらず現代日本語と現代英語を使っている点、これは非常に興味深い考察ができる。400年前の英語で「snipe」は鳥の一種を指すだけで、日本語に英語の借用語が入るのは1868年以降だ。多くの日本のライトノベル作家は語源にあまり注意を払わないが、エミリアが時々古語を使うギャグがあるのを踏まえると、フリューゲルが日本から来ただけでなく、タイムトラベルの伏線である可能性も考えられる。考察くん+11
MaximumShady
Maybe im looking to much into it, but Pleiades tower could also be spoken in engrish as "Player-des"
確かにシャウラの作画は神がかってた!優勝すぎるッ! で、プレアデス監視塔が「Player-des」って…深読みしすぎかもだけど、エモすぎて無理。考えただけでしんどいわ。感情くん+9
bedsheetsniffer
>finally using his star knowledge Well it’s hard not to if everyone and their mother has a star motive in their name in this world (Betelgeuse, Regulus, Pleiades…)
確かに!この世界、登場人物の名前がみんな星関連だもんな(ベテルギウス、レグルス、プレアデス…)。使わない方が難しいよね。普通くん+5
ClemFire
Sounds like they were all named by someone from our world
それな!まじで全員星関連の名前じゃん笑 てか、これって元の世界から来た誰かが名付けたっぽくね?ギャル+8
CitronClassic672
Yeah, Tappei, lol. But seriously you’re right.
それな!長月先生やっぱり異世界転生ものの元ネタとか仕込みが天才すぎるッ!感情くん+6
ChicaneryFinger
At times like this I always wanna know what everyone thinks of Subaru's mysterious hometown.
そういう時って、スバルの謎の故郷についてみんながどう思ってるのかすごく気になるんだよね。普通くん+651
Frontier246
Especially with it's totally unique star system that conveniently comes in handy.
せやな、スバルの故郷の星のシステムは便利すぎて草 あれ毎回都合良く動くんかよってツッコミたくなるわ2ちゃん+502
BosuW
"Look he just knows shit. Just follow along, it usually turns out fine."
確かに。あいつは色々知ってるんだよ。とりあえずついて行けばなんとかなるさ。普通くん+408
Aliensinnoh
They're lucky that Subaru has knowledge of astronomy. I'm from this world and I honestly don't know shit about the Orion constellation other than the fact that it has a belt. Like, if you show it to me I'd say "oh yeah, that's Orion" but I wouldn't have been able to draw it for you before this episode and I certainly wouldn't have known which star was the brightest.
確かに、スバルの天文学知識がなければ砂漠突破は不可能だったという考察ができるな。俺も同じ世界出身だが、オリオン座のベルト以外に知識なんてなかった。視聴者視点だと「ああ、あれがオリオン座ね」程度の認識で、あの星座図を描けと言われても無理だ。ましてやどの星が一番明るいかなんて知らなかった。スバルの博識がまさかこのタイミングで活きるとは、制作陣の巧妙な伏線回収だと思われる。考察くん+269
bedsheetsniffer
Tbf this has worked every single time for their every single problem so far. “Oh we’ve hit a wall? Just wait for Subaru”
確かに今まで全部それで乗り越えてきたもんな。「壁にぶつかった?スバル待とう」って感じでずっと来てるし。普通くん+53
ShinJiwon
I mean from their perspective Subaru's hunch ALWAYS turns out right.
確かに!スバルの直感、周りから見たらマジで当たりまくりじゃん?笑 てか毎回「なんで知ってんの?」ってなるよね〜ギャル+8
AnusBlaster5000
Like a Wise Sage... oh
賢者の境地すぎるッ!確かに、スバルは色々知ってるし、とりあえず信じてついて行けばなんとかなるんだよな……エモい。感情くん+6
Mundology
Astronomy nerd Subaru 🤝 Flugel
天文オタク同士だね スバル 🤝 フリューゲル普通くん+42
Kayava22
Subaru 🤝 Subaru ?
スバル 🤝 フリューゲル ……ってかこれスバル同士じゃね?ワイ混乱してきたンゴwww2ちゃん+26
Civil-Initial2942
原文
Someone once suggested in the comments that maybe they don’t ask about his origin because they don’t want to reopen his wounds. In Season 1, Subaru said he had some kind of past with the Witch Cult, and the only possible kind of story he could have is something like his entire village and family being massacred. So maybe everyone thinks that asking about his past would be inappropriate and unpleasant, especially since they all trust Subaru, even if he has his secrets.
誰かがコメントで言ってたけど、みんなあえて彼の出身について聞かないのは、傷をえぐりたくないからかもしれないね。 S1でスバルが魔女教と何か因縁があるって言ってたし、ありえる話としては村や家族が全滅したとかそんな感じじゃない? みんなスバルを信頼してるからこそ、たとえ秘密があっても過去を詮索するのは失礼だし気まずいって思ってるんだと思う。普通くん+235
signuslogos
It also seems fair to think Subaru has dodged any real questions and given them vague answers whenever the topic came up so that they know they're not going to get a straight answer even if they do ask.
せやな。スバルも具体的な質問は全部かわして曖昧な答えしかしてないし、聞いたところでまともな返事は返ってこないってみんな分かってるんやろな。2ちゃん+127
Drayenn
Wonder why hes not talking about it? Is it restricted info like how he cant talk about return by death?
それな!スバルがその話題になるたびに曖昧な答えしかしてないの、確かに怪しすぎるッ!死に戻りの話ができないのと同じ制限なのかな…しんどいわ〜感情くん+15
Aliensinnoh
Sure would be convenient if this world had the known concept of otherworlders like That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime does.
確かに、スバルはいつも質問をはぐらかして曖昧な答えしかしてないよね。この世界に転生モノみたいな異世界人の概念があれば楽なのに。普通くん+10
VeryImportantLurker
He did tell Emillia in seaaon 1 that he was from an "Island in the East", although I'm pretty sure that was the first loop and he didnt bother telling her again later on. So I assume she thinks he's from the same country as them.
確かに、1周目の時点でスバルは「東の島」出身だとエミリアに話している。ただ、後のループでその話題を蒸し返さなかったのは、彼自身が過去を掘り返されるのを避けたかったからだろうな。結果的にエミリアは「同じ国の出身」と認識していると考えるのが自然だ。この辺りの伏線が今後の展開でどう回収されるか気になる。考察くん+5
Roskal
Also especially now when he proved he wasn't lying or making all this up considering he solved the puzzle. He really does have knowledge that no one else in the kingdom has.
確かに、特に今回のパズルを解いたことで彼が嘘をついてなかったって証明されたのは大きいよね。王国で彼だけが持ってる知識ってのが本当にあるんだなって思う。普通くん+82
AceSoldia
I wonder if he's built up his bullshit enough that he can just say he's reincarnated and they would beleieve him
せやな、スバルの実家とか出身地って謎やからなぁ。 「転生してきた」って言っても、今のアイツの胡散臭さなら信じてもらえるんちゃうか?www2ちゃん+11
WhoiusBarrel
Having the ED play so early from the end is such a troll fucking move, got so disappointed when the episode was already finishing up. That said crazy amount of tension whenever Shaula goes quiet, if she ever finds out Subaru's lying the whole groups fucked.
EDが終盤よりずっと早く流れ始めたの、完全に罠だろ。もう終わりかよってガッカリしたわ。 でもシャウラが黙るたびに緊張感やばいな。もし嘘バレたらパーティー全滅じゃん。普通くん+645
Frontier246
The production staff just love to keep people guessing whether they're going to get the OP, ED, or both within a single episode. Hell's Snipe killed him twice, she's super strong, the amount of danger they're in if she finds a reason to kill them is astronomical (heh).
確かに。制作陣は毎回、OPとEDどちらを入れるか、あるいは両方入れるかで視聴者を惑わすのが本当に上手いよな。Hell's Snipeは2回もスバルを殺したという事実から、彼女が殺す理由を見つけた時の危険度が天文学的(heh)だという考察ができる。考察くん+312
Mundology
Shaula is so adorable and has such a bubbly personality that you would almost forget that she is a terrifying sniper with over a hundred kills
シャウラ可愛すぎるよね。あの明るい性格見てると、100人以上殺した恐ろしいスナイパーだって忘れそうになるわ。普通くん+111
Traece
I appreciate that she's constantly being so emotive whilst also carrying around Meili for basically the entire episode.
シャウラちゃんガチで可愛いよなww ずっとメィリィ抱えてるのにあのテンションキープできるの草生えるわ ワイもああいうキャラ好きやわ2ちゃん+39
ClemFire
With that same cute pose every time
確かに、あのかわいいポーズ毎回やってるのほんとズルいよね普通くん+10
peptiresearcher81
原文
And over 400 years old somehow?!? She also spoke of another person being a human as if she herself is not. So im becoming very curious as to what she actually is... Flugel apparently named her, which probably wouldn't have been necessary if she'd already had her own name (not guaranteed but still). Did flugel create her somehow? Maybe she's an OP spirit of some kind? Guess we'll find out soon enough
シャウラが400歳以上ってところも考察ポイントだよな。さらに彼女が「人間」という言葉を他人に対して使うとき、自分は人間じゃないかのような言い方をするのが気になる。フリューゲルが彼女に名前を付けたというのも重要で、もし元から名前を持っていたらわざわざ命名する必要はなかったはず。だとすれば、フリューゲルが何らかの形で彼女を創り出した可能性が高い。もしかすると、彼女は超強力な精霊の一種なんじゃないか?今後の展開でその正体が明かされるのを楽しみにしてる。考察くん+10
aryanrussell
She probably won't believe him however much he refutes it. He has got a very peculiar stench and great emphasis on this very particular detail.
確かに。いくら否定しても信じてもらえなさそうだよね。この独特な匂いって描写、めっちゃ強調されてたしな。普通くん+182
SamusTheCat
Sirius didn't believe Subaru either. And turns out she was right! Pete is just hanging out in his head
え、まじでシリウスもスバルのこと信じてなかったんだ!笑 でも結局あってたってことじゃん?ペテルギウスが頭の中にいるってやばくね!?ギャル+113
SamuSeen
Also him passing knowledge check after knowledge check doesn't help.
それな!知識テスト連続正解しすぎて逆に怪しまれてる感がヤバいッ!無理すぎるだろこの状況…感情くん+71
joggle1
Imagine if each test is based at least in part on knowledge from Earth that's impossible for everyone but Subaru to know. By the end, they'd all probably be wondering whether Subaru is Flügel (or his reincarnation) too, or at least that he has some sort of connection to him.
確かにね。もし各テストが地球の知識に基づいててスバルだけが知ってる内容だったら、他の連中も最終的に「スバルってフリューゲル本人かその生まれ変わりなんじゃない?」って思うかもな。少なくとも何か繋がりがあると疑うのは間違いない。普通くん+30
flashmozzg
Well, the focus was on his "dragonized" arm. I wonder if it's the thing with the particular smell.
確かに!腕の変異に焦点当たってたよね。ドラゴン化した腕が臭いの原因なのかな…気になるッ!感情くん+5
B4k3m0n0
Isn't it because of his miasma due to his connection to Satella? Even Rem said he stank in the early episodes.
せやな、サテラとの繋がりで瘴気出てるんちゃうか。レムも序盤で「臭い」って言うてたしな。2ちゃん+29
lordposedyon
> Having the ED play so early from the end is such a troll fucking move, got so disappointed when the episode was already finishing up. Re:Zero loves to do this shit.
確かに、Re:Zeroはこういうのよくやるよね。EDが早く流れると「もう終わり?」ってなるから腹立つけど、それがまたこの作品らしいって感じ。普通くん+68
BosuW
I think she already knows... Or at least she's doing a truly sagely thing: considering two contradictory truths at the same time, until she can come up with a synthesis and act on it
せやな…あのEDのタイミングはガチでクソやったわwww でも多分あの子(シャウラ?)はもう気づいてるンゴねぇ… 矛盾する二つの真実を同時に抱えて、答えが出るまで待つってのは、まさに賢者のやることやわ2ちゃん+65
MokonaModokiES
yeah probably that. She looked to be really in doubt when Subaru asked for her to not hurt them. Like its something Flugel definetly wouldnt say.
確かにそれっぽいね。スバルに「傷つけないで」って言われた時のシャウラ、すごく迷ってる感じだったし。フリューゲルなら絶対言わないセリフだもんな。普通くん+73
AnusBlaster5000
原文
I don't think hes lying. Look at her design, its his color scheme. She recognizes his miasma and Flugel built this tower and put that puzzle in place. I think we just got revealed some crazy time shit and that Subaru really is Flugel somehow. Subarus return by death would also make him look like the most incomprehensible sage, consistently knowing the exact correct solution to any and all obstacles.
せやな、あのED早すぎて草生えたわ。でもワイはあいつ嘘ついてないと思うンゴ。デザイン見てみ?完全にフリューゲルのカラースキームやん。シャウラはスバルのミアズマ認識してるし、この塔もフリューゲルが建てたパズルやろ。つまりガチで時間軸ぐちゃぐちゃで、スバル=フリューゲル説が濃厚やな。死に戻り持ちなら、どんな障害も即正解出す「理解不能な賢者」ってのも納得やわ。2ちゃん+46
HeavenSpiral
Also the whole riddle looked like something only Subaru could come up with in that world (unless someone with an equal knowledge was transported there before but seems weird).
確かに、あの謎かけもこの世界じゃスバルにしか思いつかない内容だよね(同レベルの知識を持つ転移者が先にいた可能性はあるけど、それも変だし)。普通くん+14
LollipopScientist
Yeah it seems very suspicious to have a puzzle only he'd know. Perhaps Satella is to Emilia as Flugel is to Subaru?
それな!彼だけが解ける謎って時点で怪しすぎるッ! もしかして、エミリアとサテラみたいに、スバルとフリューゲルにも繋がりがあるってことか…?しんどい、考察止まらん!感情くん+9
UMP45isnotflat
I almost missed the post ed scene because Im not used to this anime doing this
マジそれな!まさかEDあんな早く流れるとかずるすぎじゃね!?俺もそれでポストEDシーン見逃しかけたし笑 このアニメのやり方にまだ慣れてないわ〜ギャル+28
yjggy
Can't agree more. First seconds of ED gave me feeling of a crime AGAINST MY RIGHTS (c) Regulus. But after it Subaru had a nice TED talk about astronomy.
本当にそれな。ED流れた瞬間「おい俺の権利侵害だろ(レグルス風)」って思ったわ。でもその後スバルが天文のTEDトークしてて笑った。普通くん+16
AbyssWalker_Art
I have a feeling that even if he told her straight up that he wasn't flügel she wouldn't believe him and keep insisting that he is.
せやな、ガチで草。スバルが「ワイはフリューゲルやない」って言っても、シャウラは絶対信じへんやろなwww「お師様はお師様です!」ってゴリ押ししてきそうやん2ちゃん+14
TempestoLord
The close up on her eye kinda made me believe she knows or atleast is suspicious, things will get bloody if she snaps but so far she’s fun and very likable with top tier facial expressions.
確かに。あの目のクローズアップで彼女は何か知ってるか、少なくとも怪しんでる感じがしたよ。もしキレたら血なまぐさいことになりそうだけど、今のところは表情豊かで魅力的なキャラだね。普通くん+13
Crystality
Going back to the scene to me it felt like she felt a little sad for a moment, and then covered it up by being really bubbly again. So yea she probably already realized it but chooses to accept Subaru anyways?
あのシーン見直したけど、一瞬悲しそうな顔してその後無理に元気装ってたよな。つまりもう気づいてるけど、それでもスバルを受け入れるって選択したってことか?2ちゃん+7
NegimaSonic
I think she realizes it and since she only operated on the original orders to stop anyone from getting inside, there's no point in harming them as long as they stay. It's been 400 years of loneliness after all. I think their issue is when they try to leave. It violates neither rule to kill them after they exit the tower.
あの場面、シャウラは一瞬悲しげな表情を見せた後、無理に明るく振る舞ってたように見えたんだよな。彼女は状況を理解していて、元々「侵入者を止めろ」という命令で動いてる以上、塔の中に留まる限り危害を加える理由がないという考察ができる。何せ400年の孤独だ。問題は彼らが塔を出ようとする時で、退出後に殺すのはどちらのルールにも違反しないというのが制作陣の意図するジレンマなんだろう。考察くん+7
slicer4ever
I honestly cant believe that was a 20 min episode, seriously felt like 5 mins and then they were playing the ending.
確かに草。20分が5分に感じるってやばすぎやろwww エンディング流れた瞬間のガッカリ感ハンパないンゴ2ちゃん+8
Lukas04
ngl, it felt really pointless in this instance. I like a show getting creative with things like this but it kind of did nothing but break the flow
それな。今回はちょっと意味なかった気がする。演出として工夫するのは好きだけど、今回は流れをぶった切っただけで終わった感ある。普通くん+6
FlugelTheSage
Betelgeuse and Regulus seething is glorious
ベテルギウスとレグルスがブチギレてんのマジで最高じゃん!笑ギャル+564
actionfirst1
God, imagine the two of them just hanging out with each other in hell. They'd never shut up
マジで想像しただけで笑えるわ。あの二人が地獄で一緒に過ごすとか、絶対に喋り止まらないだろ普通くん+309
Frontier246
Petelgeuse: "YOUR ACCUSATIONS WITHOUT RECRIMINATION ARE VERY SLOTHFUL...DESU!" Regulus: "Get off my back man, we're dead so you have no basis for infringing upon my rights!"
ペテルギウス「お前の非難が無いのは怠惰だ…です!」 リゲル「うっせーな死んでんだからワイの権利侵害すんなや」 草生えるわこの地獄の漫才コンビwww2ちゃん+235
actionfirst1
Need a buddy cop sitcom with these two
ペテルギウスとレグルスのバディものコメディ、マジで見たいわ普通くん+94
thekoreansun
原文
As long as Subaru doesn't have to hear it all the time, I'm down to watch a director's commentary of these two crazies narrating Subaru's mishaps. Like, can you imagine how insufferable these two are to each other? Regulus could be like "What drivel, I was infinitely more challenging than this mysterious sniper could ever be." and Petelgeuse could be like "HOW SLOTHFUL, HOW CORRUPT!" and Regulus could respond "WOULD YOU SHUT UP, PETELGEUSE?! I'M THE ONE IN CHARGE HERE."
確かに、この二人が地獄で永遠に言い争ってる光景は想像に難くないな。スバルがそれを常に聞かされるわけじゃなければ、むしろ二人の“ディレクターズコメンタリー”を眺めてみたい気もする。レグルスは「何たる愚言か、この謎の狙撃手ごときが俺の比になるはずがなかろう」と豪語し、ペテルギウスは「ナマケモノ!腐敗している!」と叫び、それに対し「黙れペテルギウス!俺が主導権を握っているんだ!」と返す……この無限ループこそが彼らの本質を表していると言える。考察くん+76
actionfirst1
Need the DVD commentary for every episode by these two
確かに、この2人のDVDコメンタリーは全話見たいね。普通くん+29
Frontier246
Imagine a *Re:Zero Abridged* where Petelgeuse is commenting through season 2 and 3 before Regulus joins him in season 4 lol.
それな!2人が一緒に解説するディレクターズコメントとか絶対面白いじゃん!笑ギャル+17
Benphyre
I mean all of the Sin Archbishops we seen so far yap a lot and never shuts up lol
確かに、今まで出てきた大罪司教ってみんなよく喋るし、一度話し出したら止まらないよなw普通くん+5
ChicaneryFinger
I need a fanfic where these two are just in Subaru's head yelling at him all the time through loops and occassionally giving weirdly good advice.
草 ベテルギウスとレグルスがキレ散らかしてるの最高すぎるやろwww ワイが欲しいのは、この2人がずっとスバルの頭の中でループ中に叫びまくって、たまに変に良いアドバイスくれるだけのファンフィクやンゴ2ちゃん+83
Pure_Bread_8873
Lmao I can only imagine their comments when meeting the other sin bishops
わかるww大罪司教たちと会った時の二人のツッコミが想像できるわ普通くん+15
admirabladmiral
A worse version of what Piccolo's got going on in DBZ abridged
それDBZ改悪版のピッコロ状態やんwww コイツの頭ん中で永遠にループ中に叫び続けるとか草 時々アドバイスもくれるんか?それガチで地獄やな2ちゃん+8
i_eat_pidgeons
I missed that "Ano sa"
それな。「あのさ」のタイミングが完璧すぎるわ普通くん+15
ClemFire
Reg still taking these deserved Ls
それな!レグが連続でボコられるの最高すぎるッ!ベテルギウスも含めてフルボッコ回は神回すぎて泣いた感情くん+13
koteshima2nd
I know they'll be mocking tf out of Subaru after every death
わかる。スバル死ぬたびにベテルギウスとレグルスがめっちゃ煽ってきそうで笑える普通くん+10
ClemFire
Would be funny if they eventually become reluctant allies
それなw 最終的に渋々ながら味方になる展開とか来たら笑うわ。感情くん+8
YonSaiSucks
It would be really funny if after every death they give him feedback and crap telling him what he did wrong in the most cyptic shit ever lol
それな。死ぬたびに「お前ここミスったぞ」みたいな謎フィードバックが来るの想像したら笑えるわw普通くん+7
roronoa20
...Shaula's color scheme is exactly the same as Subaru's tracksuit.
シャウラのカラーリング、スバルのジャージと完全に同じやんwww 気づいたら草生えたわ2ちゃん+542
actionfirst1
Season 5 better introduce Adidas himself
「それな!まさかシャウラのカラーリングがスバルのジャージと同じだったとは…エモすぎるッ!Season5ではAdidas本人が登場するんか?無理、楽しみすぎる!!」感情くん+335
NecronLord_Europe
In S5 Emilia gets jealous of Shaula, dumps Subaru and falls in love with Subaru's brother, Toyota-kun.
それなwwwS5でエミリアがシャウラに嫉妬してスバルをフってトヨタくんと恋に落ちる展開は草普通くん+138
actionfirst1
This is an Isekai so I've been wondering where the truck went
は?トヨタくんって誰だよwww異世界ものなのにトラックどこ行ったんだよ!感情くん+33
Se7en_Sinner
I wonder if Shaula's clothing choice was also Flugel's idea since he's the one who named her.
シャウラの服もフリューゲルが選んだのかなって思うよね。名前つけたのもあの人だし。普通くん+134
Frontier246
Considering Flugel seemed aware of Earth astronomy to be able to come up with those tests and possibly all the star named theming involved in his tower, there might actually be some legit connection to Subaru?
せやな、フリューゲルが地球の天文知識持ってるっぽいし、塔の試験とか星のテーマもスバルと繋がってる可能性あるンゴね。草2ちゃん+154
GSNadav
also she is not the first person who claims to know subaru without him knowing what they are talking about....
確かに、彼女が初めてじゃないんだよね。スバルのことを知ってるって言いながら、本人はさっぱりってパターン。普通くん+89
mnmkdc
He taught Shaula phrases from earth so he’s definitely from there. Also important note that “Subaru” is the Japanese name for the Pleiades star cluster. So there is a direct connection that definitely isn’t coincidental.
【返信元コメントの補足】 フリューゲルが地球の天文学に詳しかった点、星の名前の知識まで考慮すると、彼が地球出身である可能性が高いという考察ですね。 【翻訳】 それな。フリューゲルがシャウラに地球のフレーズを教えた時点で、間違いなく地球出身だと思われる。さらに重要なのは「スバル」がプレアデス星団の日本語名だという点。これが偶然で済むはずがない。考察くん+35
Benphyre
They smell they same though
それな!匂い同じなんだよね、やばくない!?ギャル+6
Frontier246
I feel like I should have noticed that but I feel like I was too distracted by her behavior and her "personality" lol.
せやな、気づくべきやったけどワイもアレのデカさに気取られてもうたわwww2ちゃん+72
roronoa20
原文
Shaula = Star-related name similar to Subaru Shaula's outfit = The same color scheme as Subaru's track suit Pleiades Watchtower = Subaru Watchtower (In Japanese, Pleiades can be translated to Subaru) The first trial = Requires something that Subaru would know to clear Witch of Envy = Someone who loves Subaru for as long as 400 years. ...At this point, the sign pointing at Subaru as someone who has something to do with whatever happened 400 years ago is larger and brighter than Las Vegas's welcome sign.
シャウラ=スバルと似た星関連の名前 シャウラの服=スバルのジャージと同じ色合い プレアデス監視塔=スバル監視塔(日本語だとプレアデス=スバルって訳せる) 最初の試練=スバルが知ってることをクリアに必要 嫉妬の魔女=400年間スバルを愛し続けてる誰か …もうこの時点で、400年前の出来事とスバルが関係してるって証拠はラスベガスの看板よりデカくて明るいよね。普通くん+199
ClemFire
Feels like an old man Subaru at the very end of the story setting up the pieces for his younger self to succeed
え、まじで!?それやばくない!?笑 シャウラの服の色がスバルのジャージと同じって、もう完全に未来のスバルが仕組んだってことじゃん! 年老いたスバルが若い自分に道を残してる感じ、泣けるんだけど… プレアデス最高すぎ!ギャル+113
Etiennera
Show has literally been screaming time paradox at us since the start.
この作品、最初からずっとタイムパラドックスを強調してきてたってことだよね。確かにその通りだと思う。普通くん+62
sokuto_desu
Subaru also smells like the witch of envy, and Shaula recognized her master by that exact smell. I have a hunch some conclusion is about to blow up later in the season.
シャウラがスバルの匂いで「お師様」って認識したのエモすぎるッ!しかも同じプレアデス関係の名前で色合いも一緒って伏線濃すぎでしょ…今期の後半で何かデカい爆発が起きる予感しかしない!感情くん+24
AceSoldia
I just dont get how yet..can't wait for more information
確かに、まだどう繋がるのか全然わかんないよね。続報が待ち遠しい。普通くん+13
Arachnophobic-
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. No way that's a coincidence, but the related theories in my head just feel too far-fetched
それな!俺も同じこと思ってたんだけどさ、まじで偶然なわけなくない?でも関連する考察が頭の中でどんどん飛躍しちゃってやばいんだよね笑ギャル+28
UMP45isnotflat
She is also mirroring his obsessive behaviour towards Emilia
それな!色合い完全にスバルのジャージと同じすぎるし、エミリアへの執着もそっくりでしんどいッ!エモすぎるだろこの共通点…感情くん+9
Roskal
The one time he isn't wearing it.
草、確かに言われてみれば色味一緒やんwww あのジャージ着てない時に限ってそういうネタ出てくるの笑うわ2ちゃん+10
Rabbitey-
I noticed this last episode. It's been heavily hinted that Flugel was isekai'd like Subaru, and that there's a connection between the two. Either they're the same person (timeline shenanigans) or Subaru's related to Flugel in the same sense that Satella's related to Emilia.
確かに気付いたな。シャウラの衣装カラーリングがスバルのジャージと完全一致しているのは、制作陣が意図的に仕込んだ伏線だと思われる。フリューゲルがスバルと同様に異世界転移してきた存在であることは、これまでも示唆されてきたからな。 ここから導き出せる考察としては、二つの可能性が考えられる。一つは「同一人物説」――時間軸のねじれや記憶操作によって、スバル=フリューゲルだった可能性。もう一つは「エミリアとサテラの関係と同型説」――つまり、サテラがエミリアの原型であるように、フリューゲルがスバルの原型、あるいは因果的にリンクした存在であるという構図だ。 いずれにせよ、この作品の根幹に関わる重大な伏線であることは間違いない。考察くん+7
koteshima2nd
Exactly. There has to be some time travelling involved in this tower or something
せやな。絶対この塔でタイムトラベル的な何かあるやろ。2ちゃん+7
lupoin5
> Shaula's color scheme is exactly the same as Subaru's tracksuit. I had to check the episode again to confirm this, and I'd never notice, even though it was glaring.
確かに言われてみれば!スバルのジャージと同じ配色なの気づかなかったわ。確認し直したけど、あれだけ目立つのに見逃してたわ。普通くん+6
NecronLord_Europe
IT'S A SCORPIONTAIL!
なんやこれサソリのしっぽやんけ!2ちゃん+532
Frontier246
When she inevitably turns on them, we can just assume it was because it was in her nature. I mean, you can never 100% trust a scorpion.
確かに。結局サソリはサソリだからね。本性が出たってことで納得するしかないかも。普通くん+287
Saevin
"But I told you to never harm me or my friends. Now we shall all surely die", said Subaru. "Lol" said Shaula, "lmao".
「『俺か友達を傷つけるなって言っただろ。もう全員死ぬぞ』ってスバルが言ったら、シャウラが『ワロタww』って返したんだよな」 それな!シャウラの「lmao」が完全に悪ノリしてて草。このシーン無理すぎるッ!感情くん+314
NecronLord_Europe
\>Subaru the frog
シャウラの「lol lmao」がシュールすぎて笑ったww カエルのスバル、確かにそう見えるかもね普通くん+112
zaxls
That is 1000% going to bite them in the ass in SOME way, that scene was really focused on. Like they could maybe try to hurt each other like when Subaru/Ram/Anastesia did, but all she would do is watch and not help because he ordered her not to harm anyone in any way.
あの場面、絶対に後々何らかの形で裏目に出る伏線だと思うんだよな。制作陣がわざと強調してたって感じがする。例えばスバル・ラム・アナスタシアがやったように互いに傷つけ合おうとする場面があったとしても、シャウラは「お師様に誰も傷つけるなって命令された」って理由でただ見守るだけで助けない可能性が高い。この制約がどう作用するか、今後の展開を注視したい。考察くん+15
AceSoldia
Lol I'm already dreading for when she turns on them..I'm gonna miss her half naked bubbly self
あーわかる!まじでその日がくるの怖すぎるんだけど笑 あのハイテンションな半裸姿、マジで恋しくなりそうじゃん…やばくね?ギャル+47
WhoiusBarrel
This scorpion's pout can't be this cute
それな、サソリの口元がこんなに可愛いわけないだろ普通くん+257
Frontier246
The only thing that could compete with an Emilia pout.
エミリアのむくれ顔に匹敵するものってこれだけやろwww2ちゃん+119
Mundology
Their battle will be legendary
エミリアのむくれ顔に匹敵するものなんてこれしかないよな。伝説の戦いになりそうだわ。普通くん+91
NecronLord_Europe
Only Fortuna knew how to dispout such pouts.
それな!フォルトゥナしかこのツンデレ脱力ポーズできなくない?笑ギャル+17
ClemFire
New best girl in the making
このサソリの口元、可愛すぎない?新たな最強ヒロイン誕生じゃん普通くん+16
CitronClassic672
It is crazy how strong the cast in Re:Zero is. I obviously have my favorites but I never feel bored when any particular character gets focused. They all have very compelling personalities.
確かに!Re:Zeroのキャスト強すぎるッ!俺も推しはいるけど、どのキャラに焦点当たっても飽きないんだよな。全員の個性が魅力的すぎて優勝!感情くん+15
asian_hans
A pout that can compete with Fern
サソリのふくれっ面がこんなに可愛いとは思わなかったな。フェルンにも負けない表情だね。普通くん+11
kicksFR
Clearly Flugel told her to call it that, some unexpected foreshadowing right there
確かに!フリューゲルがそう呼べって言ったんだろうな。まさかこんな伏線が張られてるとは思わなかったッ!エモすぎて震えるわ。感情くん+106
Etheo
Given how quick Subaru discovered the exam puzzle, hopefully he remembers the story of the Scorpion and that whoever sets up the library exam (and tower) has his world's knowledge and likes to reference it... Then again, this is Subaru we're talking about, so anything goes I suppose.
【返信】 あのフリューゲルがそう言わせてたってことか…伏線すげえな スバルが試験の謎解きすぐ見抜いた感じ見ると、サソリの話も覚えてて欲しいンゴねぇ…図書館試験と塔を作ったやつ、スバルの世界の知識持っててそれをネタにしてるっぽいし まあ相手がスバルやし、なんとかなるやろwww2ちゃん+60
ClemFire
Well like Emilia's told Ram two episodes ago Subaru loves to fool around and make jokes but he always clutches up in the end when it matters
それな!エミリアがラムに言ってたじゃん?スバルって普段はふざけてばっかだけど、肝心な時は絶対決めるって!まじで信頼できるやつだよね笑ギャル+27
Arachnophobic-
I like how that turned out to be a crucial hint in the riddle
確かに、あれが謎解きの重要なヒントになってたの面白かったね普通くん+47
ClemFire
Was really thinking they Subaru focused in one her hair accessory but it all tied together
確かに!スバルが髪飾りにばっか注目してるのかと思ったら、全部ちゃんと繋がってたんだよね〜!やばくね!?ギャル+23
DarkChaplain
In a way, he also did, because the star on it in combination with the ponytail itself pointed towards the constellation.
確かに、それも含めて全部繋がってたってことだね。スバルが髪飾りの星に注目してたのも、ポニーテールと合わせて星座を示してたってオチか。普通くん+17
Nesp2
Shaula is a vibe.
それな!シャウラまじでやばくね!?あのテンション好きすぎるんだけど笑ギャル+17
nofaxxspitintruflego
subaru legit has the two hottest girlies simping over him (emilia and shaula) i think his suffering might've been worth it eh?
確かにスバル、エミリアとシャウラっていう最強クラスの美女二人に惚れられてるのズルすぎるわ。これまでの苦労が報われたって感じだね。普通くん+7
jiboxiake
Emilia is so precious when she seems jealous about Subaru, Shaula and Beako sandwich.
エミリアがスバルとシャウラとベア子の三人挟みに嫉妬してるシーン、ガチで尊いわwww2ちゃん+497
Vahallen
Also Emilia fidgeting for having tried to brute force the riddle lol
確かにエミリアの嫉妬シーン尊すぎるッ!あの「ううん…」ってモジモジしながら謎解き強行しようとする姿が可愛さ爆発でしんどいわ。エミリア無理、優勝!感情くん+393
WhoiusBarrel
She's not escaping the muscle for brains allegations.
エミリア、マジで脳筋疑惑から逃れられてないンゴwww2ちゃん+284
actionfirst1
She's just a straight shooter like that. Remember when Sirius shows up? She got the ice. When trying to find Regulus' weakness? He got the ice (to the dick) Heck, back in Arc 1 she goes in on fighting Elsa too
「それな(笑)」 エミリアはホント直球すぎるんだよね。 シリウス登場時も氷でぶっ刺すし、レグルスの弱点探しも股間に氷。 アーク1でエルザに突っ込んでったのもそうだし。普通くん+183
NecronLord_Europe
She had to put all her skillpoints in other stats.
せやな、ステ振り全部他に回した結果やろなあwww2ちゃん+27
CitronClassic672
原文
I genuinely cannot express how much I love these added bits of characterization for Emilia. S1’s biggest issue for me was honestly not giving Emilia enough characterization and depth for me to really be in Subaru’s headspace when trying desperately to save her. She was kind of stuck as just “a nice, pretty girl who saved him when he first came to this world” and let that be the explanation for Subaru’s desperate love for her. Not saying it’s completely unrealistic for a girl to fall hard for probably the first girl in his life to be kind to him, but I really got invested in the ship in S2 and S3 where they show more of naive, kinda dumb, bit jealous aspect of her, and just let her and Subaru kinda be dorks together. That’s the kinda stuff that’s compelling.
このエミリアの追加キャラ描写、めっちゃ良いよな。S1の最大の問題点は、エミリアに十分なキャラの深みや厚みがなくて、スバルが必死に彼女を救おうとする心情に共感しづらかったことだと思う。彼女は「異世界に来たスバルを助けてくれた、ただ優しくて可愛い女の子」という枠に留まってて、それがスバルの必死な愛の説明になってた。初めて自分に優しくしてくれた女の子に夢中になるのが非現実的とは言わないけど、俺がこのカップリングにハマったのはS2・S3で、彼女の純真でちょっとバカで嫉妬深い一面が描かれて、スバルと一緒にアホっぷりを見せ合うようになってからだ。そういうのが刺さるんだよな。考察くん+16
jiboxiake
That is also so cute.
確かにエミリアが必死に謎を力技で解こうとしてるの可愛すぎるよね普通くん+22
Se7en_Sinner
Fitting how Emilia would feel envy in an episode that begins with a Satella jumpscare.
それな!サテラにビビらされる回でエミリアのヤキモチが見れるのエモすぎるッ!感情くん+166
jiboxiake
Very true haha.
確かにそれな!笑 サテラのドッキリから始まる回でエミリアが嫉妬するの、まじで上手い構成すぎるじゃん!ギャル+50
Frontier246
Sugooku jealous Emilia is as adorable as Sugooku embarrassed Emilia getting called out for touching every monolith and thinking it would work lol.
エミリアのヤキモチ顔マジで尊いわwww でもモノリス全部触って「これでいい?」とかやってるツンデレエミリアも草生えるやんwww2ちゃん+77
actionfirst1
There are just too many cute EMTs in this episode, my heart ❤️
確かにこの回のエミリア可愛すぎたな。どのモノリス触ってる時の照れ顔も、嫉妬してる表情も最高だったわ❤️普通くん+34
Mundology
Her pout is too precious
同意!この回のエミリアのむくれ顔、可愛すぎて優勝だわ❤️ 心臓持たないッ!感情くん+13
jiboxiake
So true.
せやな。嫉妬深いエミリアも可愛いし、照れてるエミリアも可愛い。全部のモノリス触ってるのバレて赤面とかワロタwww2ちゃん+13
ChicaneryFinger
Speaking of which does the trial sense whether or not you're guessing because otherwise how did "touch everything" not work?
確かに、試練って「当てずっぽうかどうか」を感知してるのかな?だって「全部触る」作戦が通じなかったのって不思議だよね。普通くん+6
JimmyCWL
At a guess? You only get one chance to touch the right answer. Touching the starting monolith resets the exam. Touch any other than Rigel the first time they probably just all go "bzzt" or something like that.
推測だが、正解に触れるチャンスは1回だけだと思う。最初のモノリスに触れると試験がリセットされる仕組みで、リゲル以外のものに最初に触れた場合、おそらく「ブザー」みたいなエラー音が鳴るだけなんじゃないかと考察できる。考察くん+9
ClemFire
Like how to blushed when Subaru was right too about her trying the shot gun method for the trial
エミリアが嫉妬してるの可愛すぎるよね。スバルに試練のショットガン方式のことを見抜かれて照れてたシーンも最高だったわ。普通くん+7
shad79
Emilia was already cute in previous episodes/seasons, but she was especially cute in this episode! I especially loved the scene where it turned out she was trying to solve the mystery by brute force, her fidgeting was so adorable.
確かに。エミリアの嫉妬シーン、これまでのシリーズでも可愛さは健在だったけど、今回のエピソードで特に輝いてたよな。特に、謎を力技で解決しようとしてたシーンが印象的で、あのもじもじした仕草が最高に愛らしかった。あれは、普段の彼女の純粋さと不器用さが表れてる良い描写だと思う。考察くん+7
YonSaiSucks
I mean, I would too. Subaru should've switched with me
確かに、それはそう思う。スバルは俺と代わってほしかった。普通くん+6
FlugelTheSage
Holy astronomy lore
うわっまじで!?天文学の設定やばくね!?めっちゃ深いじゃん!ギャル+397
Se7en_Sinner
What's a puzzle that requires knowledge from a different world doing here. And why does Subaru and the Pleiades watchtower share the same name.
確かに。なんで異世界の知識が必要なパズルがここにあるんだろうな。しかもスバルとプレアデス監視塔が同じ名前ってのも気になるわ。普通くん+249
Arachnophobic-
原文
And while this is a way more insignificant hint, Shaula uses Engrish phrases like "no problem", "ponytail/"scorpion tail" and "hell's snipe". The first one makes Subaru wonder how she knew that phrase. Turns out even Shaula's name is a reference to a different world. I think it's pretty safe to say this Sage Flugel person _knew_ about Subaru's world, or maybe came from it like Subaru himself. And another person we know..
シャウラが「ノープロブレム」とか「ポニーテール」「スコーピオンテール」「ヘルズスナイプ」とか英語のフレーズ使ってるの草www 最初のやつでスバルも「なんでその言葉知ってんだ?」って疑問に思ってたけど、名前自体が異世界由来ってのが確定やん つーか賢者フリューゲルって奴、スバルの世界のこと知ってたってガチで確定じゃね? もしくはスバルみたいに元々あっちの世界の人間だった可能性あるわ しかももう一人知ってる奴がいるンゴ…2ちゃん+239
funny_username69
An even smaller hint, more symbolic tbh, is Subaru going “but if it was me, I would choose Rigel (over Betelgeuse)” and it ends up being right
確かにそれも象徴的な伏線だよね。スバルが「俺ならリゲルを選ぶ」って言って、それが実際正しかったってのは結構大きいヒントだったと思う。普通くん+146
yurilnw123
While we're at this topic. The witch cult archbishops name are also Earth's astronomy (Betelgeuse name even came up in this episode).
せやな。魔女教の大罪司教の名前も全部地球の天文関連やん。今回の話でもベテルギウス出てきたしな。2ちゃん+53
[deleted]
That would explain for example how pristella city got japan's culture Yes it was alec hoshin who brought such knowledge, but he got it from flugel
それってつまり、プリステラに日本の文化が入った理由にもつながるってことじゃね? 確かにアレク・ホシンがその知識を持ち込んだんだけど、元はフリューゲルからもらったってわけか〜。ギャル+16
Myrkrvaldyr
原文
Yeah, that puzzle is too specific. We don't even have information on what the starry sky looks like in that world. Strangely Subaru has never bothered to do that in detail. If the starry sky is identical or almost identical to that of Earth, that would mean at least they're in the Milky Way, and that world could be a parallel Earth. Subaru should really use a telescope or get someone to invent one. His knowledge is too niche yet useful for stuff like this.
確かにその謎解きは異世界すぎるな。あの世界の星空の情報すら持ってないし、スバルも細かく確認しようとしてないのが不思議。もし地球とほぼ同じ星空なら、少なくとも同じ銀河系でパラレルアースの可能性もある。スバルには望遠鏡を作らせるか誰かに発明させるべきだよ。彼の知識はニッチだけどこういう時に役立つはずなのに。普通くん+46
1_Co
The memory snow ova actually goes into detail that the stars are different in the re zero world compared to the real world
あのパズル、マジで無理ゲーやろ。星の配置すら現実と違うってメモリースノーOVAでハッキリ言ってたやん。情報なさすぎて草。2ちゃん+82
HellForLife
If you've ever watched the Memory Snow OVA, there is a moment where Subaru and Beatrice talk about the stars in the Re:Zero world and its noted that they're very different from what Subaru is familiar with.
確かに。Memory SnowのOVAでスバルとベアトリスが星について話してたシーン思い出したわ。あの世界の星空はスバルが知ってるのと全然違うって言及されてたんだよね。普通くん+34
Lildyo
原文
Unfortunately, visible stars in the night sky are not a great indicator of what galaxy one happens to be in. The vast majority of visible stars are all within a few thousand light years of us and represent a tiny fraction of the Milky Way. Even just going to the next star system over (Alpha Centauri, 4ly) would alter the parallax enough that the star positions would no longer match their constellations Fun fact though is that the speed of the galactic rotation is enough that the stars in constellations have shifted over the last few thousand years since they were first observed
確かに、観測可能な恒星の位置だけでは銀河の特定は難しいという考察は正しい。数千光年以内の恒星が大部分で、天の川銀河全体からすればごく一部だしな。4光年先のアルファケンタウリに行くだけでも視差が変わり、星座の形は崩れる。 興味深いのは、数千年前に星座が記録されてから現在まで、銀河回転の速度で星々の位置が既に変化している点だ。つまり、あの世界の星空が地球と全く同じでも、時代が違えば別の惑星という可能性も排除できない。制作陣がこの辺りの天文学的要素をどこまで意識してるか気になるな。考察くん+5
Elocin-0w0
Subaru says the starry sky is different in the OVA.
せやな、あのパズルは無理ゲーやわ。OVAでスバルが星空違うって言うてたしな。2ちゃん+7
SmileyTheSmile
Requiring knowledge from a different world would be "say the name of a device used to play Angry Birds in Japanese", Lugunica's citizens wouldn't know half the words in that sentence. This puzzle also requires that person to be into astronomy. Basically it's just tailor made for Subaru.
確かに、異世界の知識が必要って時点で「アングリーバードを遊ぶ端末の名前を日本語で言え」みたいなもんだしな。ルグニカの民はその文の半分も理解できねーよ。 この謎解きには天文学の知識も必要だし。 要するにスバル専用にカスタマイズされてるってわけだな。普通くん+35
actionfirst1
Pays to know your constellations and Greek Mythology, helps when you're named after a Star too
確かに!星座とかギリシャ神話知ってるとめっちゃ役立つじゃん!星の名前ついてるキャラだと特にね〜笑ギャル+50
Accurate_Treat6360
Subaru's knowledge of stars & constellations is such underrated aspect of his character.
確かに。スバルの星や星座の知識ってめっちゃ評価されてないよね。彼の知識の幅広さが活きてる良いシーンだった。普通くん+44
ClemFire
It's a really cool and unconventional bit of knowledge only people from Earth would know
Holy astronomy loreってマジで草 地球人しか知らん知識ってのが渋いわwww ワイも天文詳しくないから勉強になるンゴ2ちゃん+22
RelativeMundane9045
A small subsection of people from Earth at that!
しかも地球人の中でも限られた人だけが知ってるってのがまた面白いよね普通くん+12
ClemFire
Only real space nerd ballers. Makes me wonder if Subaru would’ve ended up working for the Japan version of NASA if he never came to Emilia’s world as I feel like he could’ve been a great science communicator
ワイの知り合いのガチ宇宙オタクだけやろな。スバルがエミリアの世界に来なかったら、日本版NASAとかで働いてたかもしれんよな。あいつ科学の伝道師として結構イケてたんちゃうかって思うわ。2ちゃん+6
Eunuchest
*reads username* You made it, why are you surprised?
*ユーザー名を見る* お前が作ったんだから驚くことじゃないだろ普通くん+5
thekoreansun
原文
I knew from the minute that Fairouz Ai was announced as Shaula's VA that she would end up stealing the whole show, but holy *shit*, she is killing it even faster than Shaula nailed Subaru with that headshot. You can really tell how starved for affection Shaula is from the breathless enthusiasm with which Fairouz voices her. The Pleiades Watchtower also gives off such a mystical vibe, too. Like some weird amalgamation of Arabian Nights and the Eyewitness Museum. The fact that Kenichiro Suehiro really let loose with the new soundtracks this episode is likely the main reason why it feels so immediately imposing.
ファイロウズ愛がシャウラの声優に決まった瞬間から、彼女が作品をかっさらうと確信してたけど、まさかあのヘッドショットでスバルを仕留めるより速く俺をやっつけるとは思わなかったな。ファイロウズの息遣いから伝わる熱量に、シャウラがどれだけ愛情に飢えてるか如実に現れてる。 プレアデス監視塔の神秘的な雰囲気も秀逸だ。千夜一夜物語と蝋人形館を混ぜたような異質な融合感がある。末廣健一郎が今週の新BGMで本気を出したからこそ、あの威圧感が即座に伝わってくるんだろうな。考察くん+320
Frontier246
She really plays to Fairouz Ai's strength which is powerful, dumb, sexy, and hammy ladies.
確かにFairouz Aiの持ち味(パワフルでバカでセクシーでハッタリきいた女性役)にぴったりだよね。普通くん+177
Mundology
Power, Jolyne, Hibiki, Delta, Raelza, Cecily, Kikoru, Mira... You are onto something
【返信】 Fairouz Aiの得意分野ガチでそれやな パワー系・バカ・セクシー・ハッタリ女優www ジョリーン、響、デルタ、レイルザ、セシリー、キコル、ミラ… 全部ハマっとるやんけ ワイもそう思うわ2ちゃん+77
Etheo
Today we discover Fairouz Ai is trapped in typecast hell.
確かにそれな。Fairouz Aiはタイプキャスト地獄にハマってる感じだよね。普通くん+47
Pinky_Boy
add cissia from zzz as well and tangtang from endfield
確かに!それな! Cissia(ZZZ)とTangtang(エンドフィールド)も追加してほしいッ!どっちもキャラ濃すぎるし優勝すぎるわ。感情くん+8
Lanz_spectre
She also voiced Sei Shounagon in FGO, which i felt close to Shaula cause both dumb and use english phrases
確かに言えてる。FGOの清少納言も声優同じで、シャウラと似てるってわかるわ。どっちもバカっぽくて英語混ぜる感じが共通してるね。普通くん+5
ClemFire
Fairouz Ai doing the most as always. Really love Shaula already and can already suspect that underneath her bubbly exterior that she has been really lonely for a long time
マジでフェアルーズ・藍がやってるシャウラ、もうめっちゃかわよすぎ!?笑 あの明るい感じの裏にずっと孤独だったんだろうなって思うと胸キュンじゃん!てかもうこの時点でシャウラに完全に持ってかれてるわ〜ギャル+35
Myrkrvaldyr
Shaula is hella powerful, too, if this series is meant to have Subaru marry both Rem and Emilia by the end, Shaula won't probably enter the love nest, which sucks for her.
シャウラめっちゃ強いしな。もしこのシリーズがスバルがレムとエミリアの両方と結婚する展開なら、シャウラはハーレムに入れなさそうでかわいそうだな。普通くん+17
deynyel
WTF you're telling me that's how Shaula shoots with Hell's Snipe?? And here I thought she was just being cute in the OP. Now I wanna know what things the guy with the chopsticks can do.
マジで!?シャウラのヘルズ・スナイプってあんな感じなの!?笑 てかOPでかわいくしてるだけかと思ってたんだけど!笑 箸持ってるあの男も何できるのかめっちゃ気になるんだけど!ギャル+301
Frontier246
We can just add her to the list of beautiful women who have killed Subaru. It's actually a pretty lengthy, top-tier list.
それな!シャウラがまさかあんな形でハイエルフしてくるとは思わなかったわ…OPのかわいさに騙されたわ。ていうか、スバル殺した美人リストにまた一人追加かよ。あのリスト、マジでハイレベルで長すぎるんだよなッ!感情くん+227
Mundology
Subaru is both blessed and cursed
スバルは祝福されてるんだか呪われてるんだかって感じだよね普通くん+59
nofaxxspitintruflego
***subaru the little girl user !***
せやな、スバルはガチで「少女使い」やわwww 祝福されとるっつーか呪われとるっつーか、どっちもやろなあ2ちゃん+17
Jacob-C
Poor Betty, nooo! I didn't see her face until you posted this picture lol.
えっベアトリス可哀想すぎじゃん!?笑 この画像見るまで顔見てなかったわwww まじでやばいってそれ!ギャル+10
Se7en_Sinner
I hope Shaula says "Bang" when using Hell's Snipe.
確かに!OPでは可愛いだけかと思ってたけど、実際のヘルズ・スナイプはヤバすぎるな。シャウラが「バン!」って言いながら撃ってくれたら最高だね。普通くん+101
CitronClassic672
Reid be like: “I killed a man, with these chopstick!”
リード「この割り箸で人を殺したンゴwww」 マジでシャウラかっこよすぎやろ草2ちゃん+6
FlugelTheSage
IMPORTANT WARNING for people watching on crunchyroll: at the start of the episode they are suggesting to skip the initial scene marked as a recap but IT'S NOT A RECAP it's a very important new scene so don't miss it!
【重要】Crunchyroll視聴者への警告だ。冒頭のシーンが「総集編」と表示されてスキップ推奨されるが、あれは新規の超重要シーンだから絶対に飛ばすな。考察くん+295
Frontier246
Oh yeah, that scene with Subaru's Rogues Gallery and Satella *totally* happened last week.
あっそれな!先週のスバルの敵キャラ勢揃い&サテラ登場シーン、まじであったよね!笑ギャル+142
Sanitiy
What the heck are you talking about? So, you gonna buy an apple or not?
何言ってるの?りんご買うの?買わないの?普通くん+31
ClemFire
How about an appa instead
「いやいや、リンゴじゃなくてアッパ(appa)でよくね?」って話? 意味わからんすぎるッ!でもなんか面白いから乗ってみたいw感情くん+10
NecronLord_Europe
Crunchyroll absolutely does not deserve to benefit a single cent from this series with how badly they screw it up.
Crunchyrollガチでクソすぎやろ。このシリーズで一銭も稼ぐ価値ないわ。毎回めちゃくちゃにしとるやんけ。2ちゃん+86
Krioniki
It's crazy how consistently Re:Zero has one thing or another going wrong thanks to Crunchyroll.
確かに、Crunchyrollのおかげで毎回何かしらトラブル起きてるのヤバいよね。普通くん+41
Mundology
It's almost expected at this point
わかる。もうここまで来るとCrunchyrollが何かやらかすの当然すぎて笑うしかないッ!感情くん+12
suuushi-roll
yeah i was really confused why it called that a recap when i was watching it.
確かに、俺も見てて「これで総集編って言うの?」って思ったわ。普通くん+40
redditcalculus421
lmao, literally putting in less effort than unpaid sites smh.
草、無料サイトより手抜きってガチで草生えるンゴwww2ちゃん+30
Magic1998
They also said "skip opening" when the ending was rolling lol. It's in general messed up this season (I assume the shitty new UI is at fault for this? At least I'm going to blame it)
「エンディング流れてる時に『オープニング飛ばす』って出てたの笑ったわ」 今期は全体的にバグってるね(多分あのクソみたいな新UIのせいだと思うけど。少なくとも俺はそういうことにしとく)普通くん+25
baseballlover723
It's cause they labeled the ED as the "Intro" chapter in the subs most likely. A pretty harmless mistake imo, since it is the first song that is played in the episode.
せやな、EDを「Intro」って誤表記したのが原因やろな。 今期は全体的にカオスやけど、こんなミスはまあ許容範囲やろ。2ちゃん+5
ClemFire
Another Crunchyroll L
Crunchyrollまたやらかしたのかよ普通くん+20
Drayenn
Also making the sub say Emilia was talking when it was Satella lmao.
わかるわかる!サブでエミリア喋ってるって表示されてるのに実はサテラってやばくね!?笑ギャル+15
UMP45isnotflat
common shittyroll L..
それな、クソクランチロールあるあるすぎるッ!感情くん+6
BosuW
Never trust corpo suggestion
まじでそれな!企業の提案なんて信用しちゃダメじゃん笑ギャル+6
GroundbreakingBake2
Man Julius hearing about prob one of his idols, never meet your heroes.
ジュリアスが自分の憧れの人の話を聞いてるの見ると、英雄には会うなって本当だよね。普通くん+282
Frontier246
Forgot his brother, got forgotten himself, and now he's probably going to have to try to forget that this figure he respected was a manchild bully. That's rough, buddy.
兄貴のことは忘れられて、自分も忘れられて、挙句の果てに尊敬してた奴がガキのいじめっ子だったって忘れなきゃいけなくなるンゴ…。 それってキツいな、マジで。2ちゃん+136
BosuW
"Yo Gluttony, I have a new memory I'd like to exchange for one of mine."
「おい暴食、俺の記憶と交換してほしい新しい記憶があるんだ」普通くん+44
RedRocket4000
Assuming she telling the truth. And this just not her resentment he kept beating her when challenged.
もし彼女が本当のこと言ってるならの話だけどな。ただ単に挑まれて負け続けた恨みって可能性も捨てきれないし。感情くん+8
animdalf
Holy ano-sa jumpscare right in the beginning, thought we were done with that guy ... what was his name again? ... eh, probably not important.
冒頭からあのアノサーのジャンプスケアかよ、もうあいつとは終わったと思ったのに……名前なんだけどな? ……まあ、多分重要じゃないか。普通くん+261
Frontier246
HE HAS THE RIGHT TO REMAIN IN SUBARU'S HEAD WHETHER HE WANTS HIM OR NOT!
それな!あいつまじでしつこすぎるッ!スバルの頭の中に住み着く権利とか認めてないし!もう見たくないのにまた出てきて泣いた…感情くん+163
SmileyTheSmile
"please go away" "IF GOD HIMSELF TOLD ME WHAT TO DO I'D SPIT ON HIS SHOES. I AM STAYING FOREVER AND WATCHING YOU SLEEP."
「頼むから消えてくれ」 「もし神様本人がワイに命令してきてもブチ撒けるわ。ずっと居座って寝顔見てるからな」2ちゃん+43
codec264
he looks like someone you can kick in the nuts
確かに、あいつは急に出てきてびっくりしたな。でも見た目からして、蹴り入れたくなるところはわかるw普通くん+45
Arachnophobic-
I did _not_ appreciate seeing that ugly mug again
えっマジで!?冒頭でいきなりあの野郎出てきてビビったんだけど笑 まじであのブサイク面また見たくなかったんだけど〜〜ギャル+30
xFyreStorm
ngl, for a split second I thought I had started an episode in the wrong season lol
ホント一瞬だけやけど「あれ?シーズン間違えた?」って思ってもうたわwww2ちゃん+27
Eunuchest
>Holy ano-sa Lol
「ホーリー・アノーサ」ってやつ、笑ったわ普通くん+11
ClemFire
He was depriving the world of Sylphy's smile
あいつ、シルフィの笑顔を世界から奪おうとしてたんか…… マジで許せんわ。 つーか名前忘れたけど、また出てきてビビったンゴwww2ちゃん+7
BosuW
Also _Aishiteru_ jumpscare
それな!冒頭のアイシテルジャンプスケアやばすぎるッ!まさかあのセリフで来るとは思わなかった…しんどい。感情くん+8
GroundbreakingBake2
Shaula feels so much like Aqua, I love her lol.
シャウラ、アクア感すごいよな草 ワイも大好きやでwww2ちゃん+215
Arachnophobic-
This one feels like the opposite of useless though.
わかる!シャウラ、アクアみたいな明るさあるけど、こっちは全然使えないキャラじゃないのが最高すぎるッ!感情くん+163
D3k4s
God damn i read this and in my mind i insta heard Aqua crying while calling for Kazuma. My brain needs a reset.
確かにこれは役に立たないどころか逆だよね。読んだ瞬間、脳内でアクアがカズマ呼んで泣いてる声が再生されたわ。俺の頭リセットが必要だ。普通くん+65
Etheo
`- P A U S E -` `PRESS START BUTTON`
ちょっと待ってそれやばすぎじゃん!笑 頭の中アクアが叫んでるの想像しちゃったわ〜ギャル+21
Jacob-C
"KAZUMA!", "NANDE?!" I am so hyped for season 4!
「カズマー!」「なんでぇ?!」 S4めっちゃ楽しみだわ普通くん+11
UMP45isnotflat
yeah she very much feels like the opposite of Aqua. More like Aquas actually helpful, actually nice older sister.
確かに!アクアの真逆って感じじゃん?むしろ役に立つし優しいお姉さんって感じでまじ好感持てるわ〜ギャル+24
Human_Potato2264
If anything she has one particular use that she would be glad to fulfill for subaru
ワイ的にはシャウラ、スバルに対してはむしろめっちゃ役に立ちたいと思ってるやんwww2ちゃん+7
Civil-Initial2942
More like Delta from The Eminence in Shadow, almost the same personalities and the same Voice actor
まじでそれな!笑 でも俺的にはシャウラって『陰の実力者』のデルタにめっちゃ似てると思うんだけど!性格もほぼ一緒だし、なんと声優も同じ赤崎千夏さんじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル+45
Rho_Dh
Damn you're right. I knew she sounded very similar to someone else but I couldn't remember who that was. Thank you
確かに!言われてみれば完全にそれだわ。 声似てるなってずっとモヤモヤしてたんだよ。教えてくれてありがとう!感情くん+9
Frontier246
And she's already proven she's not useless by killing our protagonist and helping literally carry people through the tower!
確かに!主人公殺したり塔内の人運んだり、もう有用性は証明済みだよね笑普通くん+17
Civil-Initial2942
The goon power with this one is big
このキャラ、やばくない!?ゴーンのパワー半端ないじゃん笑ギャル+155
Frontier246
She's hitting us with Fairouz Ai + skimpy outfit + big boobs + dumb fun personality + could easily kill you if you get on her bad side.
確かにその通りだな。Fairouz Aiの声+露出多めの衣装+巨乳+バカで楽しい性格+怒らせたら即死って、完璧な組み合わせすぎる。普通くん+138
UMP45isnotflat
Its even better, as she could easily kill you if you get on her good side too!
それな!むしろ仲良くなっても普通に殺してくる可能性あるの最高すぎるッ!w感情くん+51
ClemFire
That bear hug reminded me of Yor hugging Yuri
それな!あの熊みたいなハグ、ヨルがユリにしたやつ思い出したんだけどマジで草じゃね?笑ギャル+8
AcX999
So it's Delta all over again!
つまり完全にデルタの再来ってことかッ!最高すぎるだろ!感情くん+10
vp787
Julius is such a nerd. Maybe that's why he like Subaru so much...
ジュリウスってめっちゃオタク気質だよね。 だからスバルのことそんなに気に入ってるんだろうな…普通くん+145
ClemFire
I really like their friendship and Re:Zero doesn't skimp on Subaru's dynamics with his male friends like Julius, Otto, Garf, etc.
ジュリウスってマジでガリ勉やな… そらスバルも気に入るわwww ワイはこの友情関係めっちゃ好きやわ。Re:Zeroってスバルと男キャラ(ジュリウス、オットー、ガーフとか)のやり取りもちゃんと描いてくれてて草2ちゃん+83
n080dy123
Subaru's male relationships are some of my favorite dynamics in the whole show.
確かに。スバルの男性キャラとの関係性って、この作品の中でも特に好きな部分だね。普通くん+7
ClemFire
I never would've expected Otto and Subaru's friendship to be so important back in S1 when he was just a random merchant
せやな。S1の頃はただの通りすがりの商人やと思ってたのに、まさかオットーとスバルの友情がここまで重要になるとはなあ。ガチで草生えるわ。2ちゃん+6
Human_Potato2264
Julius IRL would be a history nerd and talk constantly about how Tiger tank was indestructuble wonder weapon
ジュリウスって現実にいたら完全に戦車オタクで、「ティーガー戦車は不滅の兵器だったんだ!」って延々語ってそうだな… だからスバルと気が合うのかもね。普通くん+65
No_Football_7629
I bet he's gonna talk about Julius Caesar and the History of Rome.
ユリウスとかいう奴、リアルにいたらガチでローマ史とカエサル語りまくってそうやなwww 「ティーガー戦車は最強だったンゴ」って延々と語ってそうで草2ちゃん+16
Human_Potato2264
Omg he would be such a Romeboo he would def own a centaurian cosplay or something
それな、絶対ローマかぶれになってケンタウリオンのコスプレとか持ってそうだよな笑普通くん+8
Kure_Brex
with all due respect the demographic that is hoi4 history larpers and respectable people don't often merge. I cannot imagine Julius as a hoi4 history larper
まじそれな!ジュリウスがHOI4の歴史オタクとか想像できなくない?笑 てか真面目な人とそういうノリってあんま被んないしね〜ギャル+14
BosuW
That's not a history nerd he just a wehraboo 😭
確かにそれただの戦車マニアじゃんw普通くん+11
actionfirst1
"Hey nice ponytail" "**DTR...**"
「ねえ、ポニーテール似合ってんじゃん!」ギャル+129
Frontier246
I love it when Meili acts like a kid.
メィリィが子供っぽく振る舞うの、めっちゃ好きだわ。普通くん+55
ClemFire
Hope she gets adopted by Subaru too
確かに!メィリィが子供っぽく振る舞うの可愛すぎるッ!スバルにも養子にされてほしい〜優勝!感情くん+11
Satai4561
Surely he does. I mean , clearly one can never have enough, as a little girl user.
せやな。ガチでスバルは娘増やしすぎやろwww でもまあ、小さな女の子枠はいくらいても困らんしな。2ちゃん+12
DemonVenreable3011
This episode calm before the storm I like it when Subaru is showcasing his Astronomy knowledge who would thought this hobby would be this useful
このエピソード、嵐の前の静けさって感じだよね! スバルが天文学の知識披露してるシーン、めっちゃ好きなんだけど!まさかこんな趣味が役立つとか思わなかったじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル+135
Frontier246
I'm sure this will just be a pleasant and uneventful visit to the library! Nothing bad can possibly happen!
確かに、スバルの天文学知識が活かされるのは面白いね。図書館訪問はきっと平和なイベントに決まってる!何も悪いことなんて起きないよね!普通くん+93
Aliensinnoh
You know, I really assumed getting to the library was going to be the terrible part of the season. But while Subaru did die thrice whilst doing it, it didn't take all that much to get past the obstacles to this point. So clearly given we're here at episode 4, I'm sure a lot of suffering will happen inside this library.
確かに。図書館に辿り着くまでが困難だと思い込んでいたが、スバルは3回死んだものの思ったよりスムーズだったな。4話時点でここにいるということは、むしろ図書館内部こそが本格的な試練の場になるという伏線と見て間違いないだろう。制作陣の構成を読むと、ここからの展開はかなり重くなると考察できる。考察くん+24
Atario
Step one: there's no card catalog
マジでそれな!図書館でカード目録ないってやばくね?笑ギャル+13
SmileyTheSmile
The humble librarian with a giant fuck-off sword:
「巨大な剣を持った謙虚な司書」ってやつか。絶対何か起きるだろこれ。普通くん+14
RelativeMundane9045
The library has that Grand Archives feeling from dark souls 3
同意。図書館の雰囲気、ダクソ3の大書庫すぎるッ!絶対なんかヤバいトラップあるでしょ…しんどい感情くん+8
joggle1
Next few episodes will surely be of them being bored as they try to skim over the thousands of books in the library, right? Although that'd make Beatrice happy at least.
それな!笑 まじで図書館で暇そうに本読みまくるだけの回が続くんじゃね?ベアトリスは喜びそうだけどな〜ギャル+9
zool714
Maybe that’s why he was summoned to this world
確かに、天文の知識が異世界で役立つって意外だよね。だからこそスバルが召喚されたのかもなって思う。普通くん+11
ziptofaf
If anything, this episode heavily suggests it might somehow not be his **first** time here? Same "smell" as Flugel and having some really obscure knowledge about stars that happens to be the key to the first puzzle? And, somehow, being loved by the witch of Envy despite never actually meeting her in person? This very much smells like a time loop of some sorts.
それな。このエピソードを見る限り、スバルがこの世界に召喚されたのは初めてじゃない可能性が高いと考察できる。フリューゲルと同じ「匂い」を持ち、最初の謎解きの鍵となる星に関する知識を持っていた点、そして嫉妬の魔女に直接会ったことすらないのに愛されている点を踏まえると、時間ループ的な構造が示唆されているんだよな。制作陣は意図的にこの伏線を張っていると思われる。考察くん+12
AGJustin05
if we're to believe that subaru *is* flugel, then it probably wouldn't have mattered whether he did know astronomy or not, cuz then it still would've been something only he could answer.
それな!スバルが天文の知識披露するシーン、めっちゃ好きすぎるッ! もしスバル=フリューゲル説が本当なら、天文知ってようが知ってまいが、結局答えられるのは彼だけってのがエモすぎるんだよな…!感情くん+5
Setowi
原文
> "I won't do anything perverted" Yeah sure Shaula we totally believe that and you totally weren't almost drooling when Subaru was pushing you away near the end. Julius not wanting to accept that Reid apparently really wasn't very knightly was hilarious as heck, it's rare that Julius gets to be the butt of the joke. Shaula animated feels surreal though, reminds me of finally seeing Echidna in motion way back in S2.
「変なことしないからね」 はいはいシャウラ、信じるよ。最後の方でスバルに押しのけられた時、よだれ出かけてたじゃん。 ユリウスが「ライトは騎士らしくなかった」って認めたくない様子、めっちゃウケた。あいつが笑いものになるのは珍しいからな。 シャウラが動いてるの見ると不思議な感じだな。S2で初めてエキドナが動いてるの見た時思い出す。普通くん+133
Frontier246
The fact that she said that while wearing an outfit that leaves so little to the imagination made it funnier lol.
確かにそれ言いながら露出多めの服着てるのがギャップありすぎて笑ったwww シャウラ無意識なのか計算なのか分からんけど優勝すぎるッ!感情くん+48
Maximilian_Sinigr
> Shaula animated feels surreal though, reminds me of finally seeing Echidna in motion way back in S2. Best girl finally animated!
確かに、アニメで動くシャウラは不思議な感じだよね。S2でエキドナが動いてたのを思い出すなあ。 最高のヒロインがついにアニメ化だね!普通くん+6
ChoiceSupermarket230
Beako got crushed by Shaula. Poor Betty
べア子がシャウラに潰された…かわいそうにベティ…泣けるッ!感情くん+124
Plerti
Sigh... *It should've been me!*
ため息… *俺が代わりにやられるべきだったのに!*普通くん+14
Psyryuu
Takahashi Rie character telling someone to take a bath lmao
高橋李依のキャラが誰かに「風呂入れ」って言ってるの笑うw感情くん+91
Frontier246
My immediate thought was she must get sugooku sweaty in that outfit lol.
あの衣装でめっちゃ汗かくやろなってワイも真っ先に思たわw2ちゃん+26
ClemFire
Subaru's dirty thoughts
それな!スバルの頭の中はもうエミリアの汗でいっぱいだろw感情くん+11
actionfirst1
Beatrice didn't sign up to become part of a sandwich
ベアトリス、サンドイッチの具になるなんて聞いてないよな普通くん+94
Frontier246
Beatrice: "Betty does not approve of this outrageous woman glomping onto Subaru, I suppose."
ベアトリス「この非常識な女がスバルに抱きつくのはベティは認めないのよ、だってさ」 ガチで草www2ちゃん+37
alpha2828
Shaula feels like fake acting
シャウラって演技っぽく感じるな普通くん+96
Frontier246
That moment when Subaru ordered her not to hurt anyone the look in her eye felt totally different from how she was acting before.
確かに!スバルが「誰も傷つけるな」って命令した瞬間のシャウラの目つき、それまでの演技っぽい感じと全然違ったよな。あのギャップやばすぎるッ!感情くん+175
sesaman
Kinda felt like Flugel having given an order "if I ever ask you of this, be on your guard" or something like that.
それな。フリューゲルが「もし俺がこう頼んだら警戒しろ」って命令してたみたいな感じがしたわ。普通くん+25
ikonog
Seems like she's some sort of spirit or any artifical thingy, since she said something about "memory" and "order" as if she's registering Subaru's order into her system. I dont think she's acting, but definitely not trustworthy yet. The second Subaru lost his stinky smell, he probably wont be registered as Flugel anymore, thus the order to protect the 'Flugel' friends is invalid for their party.
せやな、あの「記憶」とか「命令」って言い方見ると、なんか精霊とか人造物っぽいンゴねwww 演技って感じはせんけど、まだ信用できるかは別やな。 スバルが臭い消えたら「フリューゲル」じゃなくなるから、仲間を守る命令も無効になる可能性あるで。2ちゃん+19
ClemFire
I feel like her psyche was just broken from being alone for so long similar to have Betty had given up before meeting Subaru
それな!まじでシャウラの精神やばすぎじゃん?ベアトリスと同じで長すぎる孤独でぶっ壊れてる感じするわ〜笑ギャル+43
Ichini-san
原文
Yeah, it would also be another parallel to how Subaru put an overly positive and energetic face on in arc 2 in S1 within the Roswaal mansion to find out who kills people. I 100% expect her to drop the fake super hyper and nice act at some point and to just talk normally. The whole thing smells like an act to make herself feel as harmless as possible for some reason until she has a reason or they give her a reason to drop the act.
確かに、それは第1期2章でスバルがロズワール邸で殺人犯を見つけるために無理に明るく振る舞ってたのと似てるよね。 - シャウラの過剰なハイテンションは完全に偽装だと思う - いつか仮面を外して普通に話すようになるでしょ - 何か理由ができるまで、自分を無害に見せようとしてる感じがする普通くん+21
BosuW
Half faking it I'd say
半分は偽装って感じやろな2ちゃん+17
ClemFire
That part of Shaula feels real, but I suspect there's parts she hasn't shown us yet
確かに半分は演技っぽいよね。シャウラのあの部分は本物っぽいけど、まだ見せてない部分がありそうだと思う。普通くん+13
Vahallen
The voice of the riddle is blatantly Subaru with a filter over the voice lol Or everyone hears it in their mind with their own voice Anyway, I love Shaula, she seems very carefree but she stopped for a moment there when Subaru asked her to not hurt anyone Wonder if it’s somehow gonna bite Subaru in the ass later, too much pathos in that scene
謎の声のフィルターかかったやつ、明らかにスバルの声やんwww 「脳内で各自の声に変換されてる」説もありそうやけどな シャウラ好きやわ。普段は能天気なのにスバルに「誰も傷つけるな」って言われた時一瞬動き止めたやろ あのシーンのパトスがやばすぎて、後でスバルにブーメラン刺さるんちゃうかって不安やわ2ちゃん+90
BIGFriv
When Julius touches it, it's Julius voice with a filter. So the voice is whoever touches it 😊
それな!ユリウスが触った時はユリウスの声だったし、触った人の声になるってやばくね?笑ギャル+172
Vahallen
Oh ok so it is the second option, makes sense
あーなるほど、やっぱ後者か。納得やわ2ちゃん+38
Roskal
I totally thought I heard Subaru's voice again. I guess its just like Echidna's trial then.
ああ、確かにスバルの声がまた聞こえたかと思ったわ。エキドナの試練と同じような仕組みなんだね。普通くん+11
BosuW
So it's kinda like the "Behold an unthinkable present" deal
それな!触った人の声になるってことか。つまり「想像を絶するプレゼントを見よ」的な仕掛けってわけか。エモすぎるだろこれ!感情くん+10
LeloThePGG
>Or everyone hears it in their mind with their own voice When Julius does it, the voice is his. So yeah, it replicates the voice of whoever touches the monolith
確かに、ジュリウスの時は自分の声だったしね。触った人の声が再現されてるってことか。普通くん+33
ClemFire
Makes me think that Shaula letting Subaru live later in the arc is going to create some serious problems
確かにそれな!シャウラがスバルを生かしたせいで、あとあとやばいことになりそうじゃん?まじで心配なんだけど笑ギャル+5
heavenspiercing
In case anyone is wondering where Subaru's star knowledge comes from, it was established a loooong time ago in the Memory Snow OVA that Subaru's parents named him after one. Boy's a star nerd.
スバルの星知識どこから来たんや?って思ってたけど、メモリースノーOVAでめっちゃ昔に設定されてたンゴwww 親が星にちなんで名前付けたってやつや。つまりワイらが知らんだけで、あいつガチの星オタクやったんやなwww2ちゃん+85
Jesus10101
He is named after a cluster of stars called the Pleiades cluster. So Pleiades watchtower could be translated to Subaru's Watchtower.
それな。昴っていう名前自体がプレアデス星団に由来してるからね。だからプレアデス監視塔は「昴の監視塔」って訳せるんだよ。普通くん+24
GroundbreakingBake2
Wow, I really liked this episode, maybe even more than 3. Loved the astronomy section and mystery feeling of it. New soundtracks are really good too.
草、今回の話マジで良かったわ。第3期より好きかもやわ。天文パートとミステリー感がたまらんかったンゴ。新曲のサントラもガチで良かったやん。2ちゃん+80
ClemFire
The comedy was really good and a big selling point of Re:Zero I feel like is slept on. Contracts with the serious scenes well and makes me care a lot more for all of the cast
同意。今回のコメディパートめっちゃ良かったよね。Re:ゼロってシリアスなシーンとのバランスが絶妙で、それがキャラへの愛着を深めてると思う。普通くん+49
NecroCannon
The comedy reminds me I’m not watching suffering porn and I honestly need more of it. Like you cannot have me see a character brutally die then next thing you know they’re hardly speaking next loop. Really can’t look at Anastasia the same with the tight tummy outfit
それな。コメディパートあるからこそ「ただの拷問アニメ」じゃなくなるんよな。マジでもっとこういう緩急ほしいわ。 つーか、グロ死見せといて次のループでいきなりキャラが軽口叩いてるギャップやばない?あの腹チラ衣装のアナスタシア見るたびに草生えるわwww2ちゃん+14
ClemFire
I really don't wanna think about that scene. Even after a week it has still been lingering
わかる…あのシーン考えたくないよね。一週間経ってもまだ頭から離れないんだよな…しんどすぎるッ!感情くん+7
GroundbreakingBake2
Yeah the Julius section with Shaula was awesome.
確かにユリウスとシャウラの掛け合いは最高だったね。普通くん+7
Volfaer
原文
So machine gun bikini girl went crazy after 400 years of isolation and thankfully thinks Subaru is her master, Flügel (first time in forever I have to use this accent), well that is convenient since she will not gun them down with her stingers, as she made very clearly she's a scorpion. Julius found out his and many other's goat was a massive jerk, enough to make Shaula cower at just the memory. I think he will make an appearance somehow since he does have some seconds in the missing OP. Subaru infodumping constellation lore will never not be fun, it always comes in hand. What do you mean the episode is already over!?
えっ、もう終わったの!?ってなるくらい没頭してたわ。 機械銃ビキニ娘が400年の孤独で少々イカれた結果、スバルを師匠=フリューゲルと認識してくれたのは僥倖だな。彼女がサソリだって明言してたから、毒針で蜂の巣にされずに済むのはありがたい。 ユリウスが発見した「ヤギの先輩」のクズっぷりは、シャウラが思い出しただけで縮み上がるレベル。あれだけOPにチラッと映ってるから、本編登場は間違いないと見ていい。 スバルの星座知識ダンプは毎度役立つし、見てて飽きない展開だよ。考察くん+75
Frontier246
I love Shaula just talking about these legendary figures in their kingdoms' history like old family friends who aren't fun to be around lol.
シャウラが王国の歴史に名高い伝説の人物たちを「つまんない昔の知り合い」みたいに話すの好きすぎるw普通くん+51
BosuW
What they teach you in school about your country's founders and heroes vs if you actually met them
学校で教わる建国の英雄たちと、実際に会った時のギャップがやばすぎるンゴwww シャウラが歴史上のレジェンドを「知り合いのオッサン」みたいに話すの草生えるわ2ちゃん+6
ClemFire
These Re:Zero episodes really are over in like 5 minutes. Wonder if Julius' goat was actually a jerk as Shaula might have a biased version of him. Like imagine asking Subaru about his opinion on Julius initially in Arc 3 after being humiliated by him while now they are great friends
確かに。ジュリアスのヤギ問題はシャウラ視点の偏りかもしれないね。アーク3で辱められた直後のスバルに聞いたら「クソ野郎」って答えたろうし、今は親友だけどさ。普通くん+22
Human_Potato2264
You guys should look at today's breaktime episode. Super cute interaction about Subaru not leaving Ram go while he was unconscious and Ram finding out about it.
今日の休憩回見たか?ワイ涙腺崩壊したわwww スバルが意識なくてもラム離さなかったってエピソードガチで尊いやろ。ラムが後で知って照れてるの草生えるンゴwww2ちゃん+70
KatBoySlim
where can you watch it?
どこで見れるの?普通くん+6
Human_Potato2264
Youtube i linked it. Unfortunately it doesnt have subs.
Youtubeに貼ったやつやで。残念ながら字幕はないンゴwww2ちゃん+6
Primary-Paint-1716
Idk how to describe it but season 4 feels like the Re:Zero that I fell in love with in Seasons 1 and 2. Season 3 was great but it didn't exactly feel like Re:Zero. Dunno if that's just me though.
わかる気がする。4期は1期・2期で好きになったあのRe:ゼロの雰囲気が戻ってきた感じがするんだよね。3期も良かったけど、なんかちょっと違うなって思ってた。俺だけかなこれ。普通くん+60
ClemFire
S3 of Re:Zero felt like the payoff for Subaru and Emilia's arcs like a capstone for Part 1 of the story while S4 feels like the start of Part 2 with Subaru finally changing out of his tracksuit. S2Part2 is what elevated the series to one of my all time favorites but I love every season.
せやな。S3はスバルとエミリアの集大成的な完結編って感じやったけど、S4はPart2の始まりって感じやな。スバルがやっとジャージ脱いだのも象徴的やん。ワイもS2後半でこの作品がマジで好きになったわ。でもどのシーズンも好きやで。2ちゃん+56
Waz08
It's probably because there's no much Mysteries and deaths to it
確かにそれな。S3より謎解きと死の緊張感が戻ってきた感じがするよね。普通くん+25
margonxp
原文
Because Season 3 was action packed with less deaths, horrors and actual mysteries to unfold we were used to I think. Also I feel like they beat Regulus way too easily (even Subaru roasting him in Season 4 lol) In season 4 we already got "mindblowing" deaths, horror moments, creepy mysterious atmosphere, comeback of the Season 1 OST (Call of the witch and the Petelgeuse one in today's episode), a Dark Souls boss fight, every episode is centered around Subaru unlike Season 3 where everyone was spread around city at some point. Season 4 is just so good already and everyone says it just goes better and better. I swear the only thing we need is credit roll epic scene like in Season 1 EP 15 and it's instant 10/10 season.
確かに分析してみると、S3はアクション重視で死の恐怖や謎解き要素が薄かったんだよな。特にレグルス戦はスバルの口撃で終わらせた感が否めない。一方でS4はもう既に「死に戻り」の衝撃的な演出が戻ってきてるし、ホラー要素、不気味な神秘性、S1のOST復活(今日の話で魔女の呼び声とペテルギウスのテーマが流れたのは胸熱)、そしてダークソウル級のボス戦。全エピソードがスバル中心で展開してるのも良い。S3はキャラが街中に散らばってたからな。あとはS1の15話みたいなエピローグの衝撃的な演出が来れば、文句なしの10/10シーズンになると思う。考察くん+21
fenixspider1
原文
not me, S3 was where all the cumulative actions and consequences of Subaru ripened. His entire hard work of building relation with all the important characters paid off in one way or another, which I rarely see in media. After s1, where he was treated as shit, and now everyone respects him, that's development right there. And the best part, he didn't have to die because of s2 now he takes his life more seriously and won't take RBD as just a convenience tool like I feared. Idk what you had expectations of re zero but I started the series quite late after s3 dropped so I didn't have any preset expectations from it other than it was good from what I knew reading the weekly episode posts. So I went in without any biased expectations set by trailers or fans just knowing it is supposed to be good and I wasn't disappointed at slightest.
それな、俺は逆にS3こそがスバルの集大成だと思うわ。人間関係を築いてきた努力が全部報われてて、そういう描写ってあんま見ないんだよね。S1ではクソ扱いだったのに今じゃみんなからリスペクトされてるし、これこそ成長だよ。しかもS2以降はRBDを便利道具扱いしなくなったのも良かった。俺はS3放送後にシリーズ見始めたから変な先入観なく観れて、めっちゃ満足できたな。普通くん+19
zool714
Nah, I’m enjoying each season a lot, but what I loved about S1 was the slight horror element, especially early on which doesn’t happen much in later seasons
いや、俺はどのシーズンもめっちゃ楽しんでるけどさ、S1で好きだったのはあのちょっとしたホラー要素なんだよな。特に序盤のやつ。それが後のシーズンではあんまりないんだよな…感情くん+14
LeonKevlar
原文
It's such a Re: Zero thing for us to go from Subaru being tortured horribly in the previous episode to a light-hearted episode where Subaru gets squashed by a bear hug and Emilia getting adorably jealous. 😆 I already love Shaula! I mean, how can you not when you have Ai Fairouz voicing her? Also, her master is Flugel, the same name that was carved on that tree they used to kill the White Whale. And apparently, Subaru smells like him? Hmmm... That entire bit where Ram explains to Shaula that "Flugel" lost his memories because he hit his head on a chamber pot and Shaula asks Subaru, "Again?" got me laughing out loud. What do you mean, Flugel once lost his memories by being hit on the head with a chamber pot?! 😆 So the Pleiades Tower is actually a library? That's good to know. If the Spirit there can't heal Rem, then maybe they can at least find the answer there. I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but I don't like that zoom in on Shaula when Subaru ordered her not to attack his friends. Maybe I'm just overthinking this, but I definitely feel like Shaula is smarter than she looks. We finally get to learn what kind of person Reid is from Shaula. Poor Julius, dude just learned that his hero isn't that heroic at all. I do wonder how Reinhard would react if he learned about this. I feel like he'd just shrug and laugh it off. It's always fun when Subaru gets to flex his astronomy otaku muscles. So basically, no one from this world could've solved this puzzle unless they're from our world and have a vast knowledge of astronomy. I guess this confirms that Flugel is from our world and Japanese, based on the Japanese carving Subaru found on the tree.
前回のスバルが凄惨な拷問を受ける展開から、一転してスバルが熊のように抱き潰されたりエミリアが可愛くヤキモチ焼いたりのほのぼの回に…まさにRe:ゼロらしい振れ幅だよな😂 シャウラはもう大好きだわ!だって声がファイルーズあいだしね。それに彼女の主はフリューゲル、白鯨討伐の時にあの木に刻まれてた名前と同じだ。しかもスバルの匂いが彼に似てるって…ふむ。 ラムが「フリューゲルは便器で頭を打って記憶を失った」って説明して、シャウラがスバルに「また?」って聞くシーン、笑いが止まらなかった。フリューゲル、まさか便器で頭ぶつけて記憶喪失になったってのかよ!?😂 プレアデス監視塔は図書館だったのか。なるほどね。あそこの精霊がレムを治せなくても、せめて答えが見つかるかもしれない。 スバルが「仲間を攻撃するな」と命令した時のシャウラへのズームイン、気になったのは俺だけか?考えすぎかもしれないが、彼女は見た目より賢いと感じるぞ。 ついにシャウラからライドの人となりが明らかに。ジュリアス、まさか自分の英雄がそんなに英雄的じゃなかったと知って気の毒だな。ラインハルトが知ったらどう反応するか気になる。肩をすくめて笑い飛ばしそうだが。 スバルが天文学オタクの知識を披露するのはいつ見ても面考察くん+59
Frontier246
原文
I imagine that lap pillow through her spandex felt very nice! Also Emilia jealousy is adorable and also a sign that her romantic feelings for Subaru are growing! I hope! We probably all wish we had a scantily-clad, busty, Fairouz Ai lady throwing herself at us and being as hammy and smug as only a Fairouz Ai character can be. At least until she possibly turns on us and starts killing us again, but so far so good! To be honest it probably would have been more surprising if an ancestor from an ancient time **wasn't** problematic. I guess that's not going to be something for Julius and Reinhard to commiserate over when they reunite (and Reinhard remembers him).
スパンデックス越しの膝枕、気持ち良さそうすぎるやろwww エミリアの嫉妬、可愛すぎて草。スバルへの恋愛感情が育ってる証拠やな!そう信じたいわ ワイら全員、露出度高めで巨乳なファイルーズあい声の姐さんに迫られたいンゴねぇ。あのハッタリ感とドヤ顔は彼女にしか出せない芸当や。裏切って殺し始めるまではな…でも今のところセーフ! 正直、古代の祖先が**問題児じゃなかった**方が驚きやろ。ユリウスとラインハルトが再会した時(ラインハルトが思い出した時)に共感し合うネタにはならなそうやな2ちゃん+8
Ozzyr_21
"The Japanese name for the Pleiades star cluster is Subaru", that's what google says. We are learning astronomy this episode guys, we all just need to connect all the dots like constellations.
「プレアデス星団の日本語名はスバル」ってグーグル先生が言ってたよ。 今回は天文の回ってわけか。星を星座みたいに結びつけて、みんなで点と点をつなげていかないとな。普通くん+59
BosuW
Re Zero was actually another hyperfixation anime all along
「プレアデス星団の日本語名がスバル」ってGoogle先生が言ってた件、まさかRe:Zeroがずっと俺の過集中アニメだったとはな…このエピソードで天文学まで学べるのエモすぎるッ!優勝!!感情くん+9
Life_Fortune5054
Glad I decided to Google the cast's name meanings, it opens a new perspective
確かに「プレアデス星団の和名がスバル」って知ると、キャスト名の意味調べたくなるよね。新たな視点が開ける感じが分かる普通くん+5
AndytheBro97
A sexy, strong girl that does anything Subaru tells her? Nah, this is Re Zero, not a generic power fantasy isekai! This is too good to be true, there has to be a catch. I don't trust that suspicious look in Shaula's eyes. I bet Flugel once told her "If I ever tell you to protect me and my friends, thats not me, thats an imposter."
スバルの言うこと何でも聞くセクシーで強い女の子?いやいや、これRe:ゼロやぞ。普通のチート異世界転生とは訳が違うわ。こんな美味い話あるわけねえ、絶対裏があるンゴwww シャウラの目つきが怪しすぎて信用ならん。ワイの予想やと、フリューゲルが「もし俺が俺と仲間を守れって言ったら、それは偽物や」って言い残してるパターンやろな。2ちゃん+51
Life_Fortune5054
I mean his friends were Satella, Reid, Volcanica AND echidna. I don't think they need protection 🙏😭
確かに。スバルの仲間ってサテラ、リード、ヴォルカニカ、エキドナだからな。護衛いらんやろ🙏😭普通くん+33
Atario
The catch is the paraplegia you get when she glomps you
ワイ「それなw」 シャウラに抱きつかれたら確実に脊髄損傷コースやんwww 強すぎて草2ちゃん+6
SacredJefe
Shaula is basically a ball of energy lol. She's still suspicious in my book, but at least she gave Meili a piggyback ride.
シャウラはもう元気玉みたいなもんだな笑。まだ怪しいとは思ってるけど、少なくともメィリィをおんぶしてくれたのは良かった。普通くん+44
ClemFire
Knowing Re:Zero she will be an enemy in certain timelines until Subaru converts her into a real ally
せやな、Re:Zeroやしな。タイムラインによっては敵になるんやろな。でもスバルがガチで味方に変えるまでやろなwww2ちゃん+16
NecronLord_Europe
Post-credits scene.
ポストクレジットシーンだね。普通くん+46
Vahallen
I was so sure we where getting a cliffhanger right before the solution
やばっ!ポストクレジットで解決前のクリフハンガー来ると思ってたのに、まさかの展開じゃん!てかその流れやっぱりそうなるよね笑ギャル+27
ClemFire
Felt a bit dumb that I didn't realize it was a constellation until the very end. Subaru is clever
せやな、ワイも最後まで気づかんかったわ…。スバルはやっぱ賢いンゴねぇ。2ちゃん+11
sokuto_desu
Considering how nerdy he went in the scene, it probably isn't that hard to solve for him specifically. He just looked at the star symbol and figured it might have something to do with constellations.
確かにあのオタクっぷり見るとスバルだから解けたって感じだよね。星のシンボル見て星座関連かもって気づいただけでもすごいと思う。普通くん+10
Shimmering-Sky
原文
[](/u/Elimin8r) [](/u/HyVana) - Unexpected Regulus at the start. - Subaru’s back with Emilia and Beatrice now, good. - Okay, can’t say I was expecting Shaula to act like *that*. - …huh. Wait, isn’t the “stench” from Subaru having multiple witch factors? That would imply someone else (Flugel, apparently) had a bunch in the past. - Pffffffffff - The guy who planted that large tree? - So *that’s* what the tower is supposed to be… - This certainly is *something*. - Okay then. - What, were the monoliths laid out to say something when looked at from above? - Naruhodo. - And into the library they get!
- 冒頭のレグルスは意外だったな - スバルがエミリアとベアトリスと合流したのは良かった - まさかシャウラがああいうキャラだとは思わなかった - …待てよ、スバルの「臭い」って複数の魔女因子を持ってるからじゃないか?つまり過去に誰か(フリューゲルらしい)が大量に持ってたってことになる - ぷはっ - あの大木を植えた男か? - なるほど、塔ってそういう構造だったのか… - これは確かに「何か」だな - わかった - もしかして、モノリスは上から見ると何か文字になるように配置されてるんじゃないか? - なるほど - そして図書館に突入か!考察くん+35
AdGrand4716
Well thinking back to S2, I vaguely remember Betelgeuse mentioning how he was gifted/given the Authority of Sloth by Flugel
S2を思い返すと、ベテルギウスがフリューゲルから怠惰の権能を授けられたって話してたのをぼんやり覚えてるんだよね普通くん+15
NecroCannon
Oh shit, he could’ve passed on his authorities before something happened. Which would explain the whole wall thing
マジかよベテルギウス、死ぬ前に権能譲渡してたってことか。そりゃ壁の件も納得やわ。2ちゃん+7
ClemFire
>…huh. Wait, isn’t the “stench” from Subaru having multiple witch factors? That would imply someone else (Flugel, apparently) had a bunch in the past. Would be funny if it was just a comedy red herring as a jab that the two of them just never changed clothes
あっ…待てよ。スバルの「臭い」って、複数の魔女因子を持ってることの伏線じゃないか?だとすれば過去に誰か(どうやらフリューゲル)も大量に保有してたってことになるな。 ただ単に「二人とも着替えてないから臭い」ってギャグのミスリードだったら笑えるけど。考察くん+14
HyVana
原文
> Unexpected Regulus at the start. Dude refuses to die. You WILL hear his Anoo Saa's > Okay, can’t say I was expecting Shaula to act like that. She was sugoooku cute this episode. > Okay then. The animators love Shaula like they loved Capella last season. > Naruhodo. Still crazy to think this scene is in the anime now. Loved how they visualized it, and the overall directing this episode. ~~EVERYTHING IS STARS AAAAAA~~
**返信:** > いきなりレグルス出てきてビビったわ あいつほんと死なないな。また「アノー・サー」聞かされるのかよ… > シャウラがああいうキャラだとは思わなかった 今回のシャウラめっちゃ可愛かったな > なるほど アニメスタッフ、前シーズンのカペラみたいにシャウラめっちゃ推してるね > 確かに このシーンがアニメ化されるの、今でも信じられない。映像表現も演出も良かった。~~全部が星だぁぁぁ~~普通くん+6
Elimin8r
> Unexpected Regulus at the start. No one expects the Regulus inquisition! > Okay then. Her face says: > monoliths Such 2001 space odyssey vibes... *OMG, it's full of stars!*
【返信先: u/Elimin8r, u/HyVana】 - 開始早々レグルスが来るとか予想外すぎるッ! - スバルがエミリアとベアトリスと合流したの最高だな。 > 開始早々レグルスが来るとか予想外すぎるッ! 誰もレグルスの審問を予想できねえ! > 了解 彼女の顔が物語ってる: > モノリス 完全に2001年宇宙の旅の雰囲気… *OMG、星でいっぱいだ!*感情くん+5
Urgnu-the-Gnu
原文
**Sugoooku Watch** The tally so far: Sugoooku counter: 108 Sugoku-likes: 18 Non-canon sugoooku: 25 Non-Emilia sugoooku: 24 One more and a cute kick to underline Emilia being jealous, lovely. Break Time has none, but some very good moments involving Emilia and also Ram. Also, a skipped OP and an unexpected infringement of rights, but that's not up to me to count. I am quite tempted to count the number of mysteries in this episode though. It's probably too easy to say that Subaru will time travel and become Flugel. But also, that would explain so much. In the meantime, Shaula is a lot of fun at least. Meili has found a wonderful new ride. With one more to the count, this is the new score: Sugoooku counter: 109 Sugoku-likes: 18 Non-canon sugoooku: 25 Non-Emilia sugoooku: 24 I'm looking forward to today's mysteries being answered with even more mysteries next week. See you then!
**すごい」カウント見てたよ** 今のところの集計: 「すごーく」カウンター:108 「すごく」系:18 非公式「すごーく」:25 エミリア以外の「すごーく」:24 これにエミリアの嫉妬を強調する可愛いキックが加わったのが最高。ブレイクタイムはゼロだけど、エミリアとラムの良いシーンがいくつかあったね。OPスキップと予想外の権利侵害もあったけど、それは俺のカウント対象外。このエピソードの謎の数を数えたくなる気分だよ。スバルがタイムトラベルしてフリューゲルになるってのは安易すぎるかも。でも、それで色々説明がつくんだよな。とりあえずシャウラはかなり面白い。メィリィは新しい乗り物を見つけたみたいだし。 カウントが一つ増えて、これが新スコア: 「すごーく」カウンター:109 「すごく」系:18 非公式「すごーく」:25 エミリア以外の「すごーく」:24 今日の謎が来週さらに謎を呼ぶ展開になるのを楽しみにしてるよ。またね!普通くん+36
ClemFire
Had some cute more lowkey Emilia/Subaru moments this episode. My favorite was Emilia blushing after Subaru guessed right that Emilia tried the shotgun approach to the trial. They know each other so well
確かに、今回のエピソードはエミリアとスバルの関係性がさりげなく描かれていて良かった。特にスバルが「手当たり次第に試したんだろ」って当てた後のエミリアの照れ顔は、お互いの思考パターンを完全に理解し合っている証拠だな。伏線的に見ると、2人の信頼関係の深まりが今後の試練にどう影響するか注目したい。考察くん+7
Urgnu-the-Gnu
Yeah, that was so great. Personally, I loved Emilia letting Subaru rest on her lap, and how Subaru gently touched her face and considerately put aside her hand when he got up, and how Emilia got a little anxious when she woke up and Subaru wasn't there.
確かに、エミリアがスバルに膝枕してあげて、スバルが起き上がるときに優しくエミリアの手をどけたところとか良かったね。エミリアが目覚めたときにスバルがいなくてちょっと不安そうにしてたのも可愛かった。普通くん+5
ClemFire
That was very cute too and much needed after all the trauma of last episode
それもめっちゃ可愛かったし、前回のトラウマの後に必要な癒しだったよなッ!エミリアの優しさに泣ける…感情くん+5
Severe_Ad_6482
Whenever I hear a sugoooku I immediately think of your counter
スゴオク聞くたびに真っ先にお前のカウンター思い浮かぶンゴwww2ちゃん+6
Vj_vice
Just wanted to comment that I love these slower-paced, lore building and character interaction focused episodes. Obviously episodes like the last one are going to get the big headlines and all the hype, but it's episodes like these that make those kind of episodes feel meaningful and substantial.
確かに。こういうゆったりしたペースで世界観やキャラの掛け合いを深める回、すごく好きだよ。前回みたいな派手な回が注目されがちだけど、こういう地味な積み重ねがあるからこそああいう回が活きるんだよね。普通くん+29
ClemFire
Definitely agree and these character focused moments makes the trauma hit harder too because we're invested in them
それな!キャラに感情移入してるからこそ、こういうパートがあると後のトラウマ展開がまじで心にくるんだよね笑ギャル+6
PeaceAlien
Feel like Shaula will find out Subaru is not her real master and betray them eventually.
シャウラがスバルは本当の師匠じゃないって気づいて、いずれ裏切るんじゃないかなって思うんだよね。普通くん+30
Frontier246
Look how ruthless she was before she thought he was Flugel and they got into the tower. There was that moment when she had that look when Subaru asked her to protect his friends, it was almost like she dropped the "act" for a minute.
シャウラのあの行動パターンを分析すると、興味深い伏線が見えてくるな。塔に入る前、スバルをフリューゲルと誤認するまでは本当に容赦なかった。スバルが仲間を守ってくれと頼んだ時の一瞬の表情の変化——あれは演技が一瞬剥がれた瞬間だと思われる。彼女の「お師様」への執着が、スバルの本当の正体を知った時にどう作用するか。この時点で既に、忠誠心の対象が本物の師かスバル個人かという分裂が起きている可能性が高い。考察くん+28
zool714
Could be a repeat of S1 with Rem where he has to try to convince or keep deceiving Shaula to not kill him and keep repeating when he fails
確かにシャウラに正体バレて裏切る展開ありそうだよね。でもS1のレムみたく、騙し続けるか説得するかで何度もやり直すパターンになるかもな。普通くん+11
Frontier246
原文
Nobody wants to be haunted by Petelgeuse and Regulus of all people, who even past death is STILL WHINING ABOUT HIS RIGHTS, but hey Satella! Still effective with that creepy “I love you” ASMR! And at least waking up to an Emilia lap pillow is MUCH more pleasant, especially knowing she hardly left Subaru’s side while he was out. Enter Shaula! The Keeper of Pleaides Tower and a VERY enthusiastic, energetic, and affectionate person when she's not trying to kill you! What she lacks in clothing, she more than makes up for with her beauty and smug attitude! And now instead of headshotting Subaru, she's practically throwing herself at him! She even made Emilia jealous, which is adorable! But the reason she's so loving with Subaru is because she thinks Pervarusu is actually her master, Flugel, the Great Sage and the guy who made that big tree. It seems like it's the smell of his Witch Factors that's carrying the resemblance? Nothing a good bath won't cure, right Emilia? Not sure how long they can keep up the act that Subaru is just Flugel with amnesia, but it at least means that Shaula is willing to work with them and help them through the tower, especially if it means it gets fully restored to the Great Pleaides Library. I do love how she gives Meili a piggyback ride and Meili acts like such a kid calling her "naked lady" and playing with her scorpion ponytail. It's nice to know Rem and Patrasche are somewhere safe and Ram will be watching over them. Can we trust Shaula not to kill them again? I guess so long as she thinks Subaru is Flugel. Imagine finding out a legendary Sword Saint, Reinhard's ancestor, was a manchild bully who was pretty awful. Julius really just had to ask again because he couldn't believe it, poor guy. Emilia just nervously standing becuase she just touched every monolith she could was super adorable. Subaru's star knowledge comes in handy once again! He knows about the star Shaula and Orion and can piece together the answer to the riddle! Which begs the question as to why astronomy knowledge from OUR world is necessary for a trial in THIS one. But at least they've moved past the first exam and made it to the Great Library! I'm sure they'll be some answers there and nothing that will kill them! Probably! Episodes with OP: 2 Episodes with ED: 2
ペテルギウスやレグルスに憑りつかれるなんて誰もごめんだよな。死んでもなお「俺の権利が!」って喚き散らすし。でもサテラの「愛してる」ASMRは相変わらず不気味で効果抜群だな。何よりエミリアの膝枕で目覚める方が遥かに心地いい。スバルが昏睡中ほとんど側を離れなかったってのが彼女の想いの深さを物語ってる。 さてシャウラ登場!プレアデス監視塔の番人で、殺意を向けてない時は超ハイテンションで愛情過多な人物だ。露出度の高さを補って余りある美貌とドヤ顔!スバルを狙撃する代わりに今や彼にベタ惚れ状態。エミリアを嫉妬させる様子がまた可愛い。 彼女がスバルにここまで愛情を示す理由は、彼を師匠フリューゲル(あの大樹を作った賢者)と勘違いしてるからだ。どうやら魔女因子の匂いが似てるのが原因か?風呂に入れば解決する問題じゃないか、エミリア? スバルがフリューゲルの記憶喪失バージョンだと偽装できる期間は不明だが、少なくともシャウラが協力的で塔の攻略を助けてくれるのは大きい。特に大プレアデス図書館の完全復活が目的なら尚更。メィリィをおんぶして「裸のお姉さん」呼ばわりされながらサソリのポニーテールで遊ぶ姿は本当に可愛い。 レムとパトラッシュが安全な場所に考察くん+34
AnusBlaster5000
Is it even an act though? Shaula has the same color palette as Subaru, recognizes Flugels smell, knows English, then the puzzle requires knowledge that effectively only Subaru would know. At what point is that wayyy too many coincidences? The cherry on top being the Pleides Tower literally translated to Japanese is Subaru Tower... its deadass just his tower
草、シャウラが演じてるかどうかって話やんな? 色合いスバルと同じやし、フリューゲルの匂い分かるわ英語喋れるわ、パズルも事実上スバルしか知らん知識必要とか…もう偶然通り越してるやろwww とどめがプレアデス塔を日本語訳したら「スバル塔」ってマジでそのまんまやん…ワイの塔やんけガチで草2ちゃん+5
codec264
I missed this mostly dialogue, lore, and just pure mystery part of Re:Zero that makes u even more confused after watching.
わかる!Re:Zeroのこういう会話メインで謎が深まるパートが大好きすぎるッ!見終わった後さらに混乱するのが逆にエモいんだよな…感情くん+28
notimetosleepp
Flugel’s name has literally come up in every season. I’m so surprised why people acting like this is the first time the name dropped. Understandable tho
フリューゲルの名前って毎シーズン出てきてたじゃん。なんで今さら初めて名前が出たみたいに驚いてる人がいるのか謎だわ。 まあ気持ちは分からんでもないけどね普通くん+27
TheMoises
First season on the tree, and second with Geuse saying he got the Witch Factor from Flugel. Where was he mentioned in third season again?
それな!1期の樹のシーンとか2期のゲュースが「フリューゲルから魔女因子もらった」って言うとこは覚えてるんだけど、3期のどこで出てきたっけ?まじで忘れたんだけど笑ギャル+8
HyVana
Liliana mentions him in her named episode (S3 EP11).
リリアナが自分の名前回(S3の11話)で言及してたよ。普通くん+6
Top-Society1540
We get to finally see Flugel but not the way I thought
ついにフリューゲルが登場か…!でも思ってたのと全然違う形すぎるッ感情くん+28
Return_By_Cringe
Following one of the darkest episodes with one of the most comedic is the kind of whiplash I love re:zero for
マジでRe:zeroらしいわこれ。シリアスで暗い回の直後にギャグ持ってくるのがガチで草。その振れ幅がたまらんンゴwww2ちゃん+25
ClemFire
The contract makes both of them better
確かにそれな。契約によって二人とも成長してるのがいいよね。普通くん+7
shad79
原文
Shaula is so fun (especially her reactions), I love her already! And the fact that Fairouz Ai voices her makes the whole character even better! Emilia was so sweet in this episode! Her kicking Subaru, or her reaction when it was revealed how she was trying to solve the puzzle, were really, really adorable. Julius's reaction after learning from Shaula about Reid Astrea's personality made me laugh out loud 😆 Overall, this was a really fun episode that also provided us with some brand new mysteries, especially concerning Shaula (who calls Subaru her master) and her true master, Flugel. I can't wait for the next week! Here my screenshot albums from the episode: * Shaula * Emilia * Group scenes * Subaru * Others *EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.*
【シャウラについて】 シャウラのリアクションの豊かさはキャラクター性を際立たせているな。特にファイルーズあいの声質が、彼女の無邪気さと狂気の境界線を絶妙に表現している。あの声だからこそ、不気味さの中に愛嬌が生まれている。 【エミリアの可愛さ】 エミリアがスバルを蹴るシーン、あれは単なるツンデレ表現ではなく、彼女がスバルに心を開いている証拠だ。パズルを解こうとする真剣な表情の裏にある努力が、視聴者の共感を呼ぶ。 【ジュリアスの反応】 ライ・バテンタイの性格を知った後のジュリアスの表情、あれは彼の生真面目な性格と剣聖の奇行のギャップを強調する名シーン。思わず笑ってしまうのも頷ける。 【全体考察】 今回のエピソードは、シャウラがスバルを「お師様」と呼ぶ伏線と、真の主であるフリューゲルの存在が示唆された点が重要。死に戻りの真実に迫る鍵が、この塔に眠っている可能性が高い。次週が待ち遠しい。考察くん+20
ClemFire
This really is the perfect type of character for Fairouz Ai and I suspect like with other genki girls she has voiced Shaula will have quite the tragic backstory too
確かに、ファイルーズあいにはぴったりの役だよね。他の元気系キャラと同じで、シャウラにも悲しい過去がありそうな気がするな。普通くん+9
nafissyed
The OST game for this episode is really magical, and really elevated the ambience of scenes such as the Green Spirit Room and the reveal of the library after the first trial was completed, very peaceful episode for Re:0 standards ngl tho lol, and I love it!
この回のOSTマジで神やんけ… 緑の精霊の間とか、第一の試練終わった後の図書館のシーンとか雰囲気爆上がりやったわ Re:0にしては平和すぎて草生えるけど、それが逆にワイは好きやでwww2ちゃん+18
Markosan_DnD
Imagine trying to rizz the most half elf-obsessed Wifeguy isekai protagonist there is, Natsuki Subaru. Shaula was set up to fail lmao
シャウラがスバルにアプローチしようとするの無理すぎるッ!世界一エミリア一筋な異世界主人公にリズなんて通用するわけないだろww最初から負け確定だったなw感情くん+22
BosuW
When we saw Subaru's room in Season 2 and all his white haired Waifu figurines Truth is, the game was rigged from the start 🥀🥀
【返信先】「ハーフエルフにしか興味ない異世界主人公に惚れるとか無理ゲーやろ…シャウラは最初から詰んでたンゴ」って内容 ワイがS2でスバルの部屋と白髪フィギュア大量に見た時点で察したわ 実際、最初からゲームは仕組まれてたんや🥀🥀2ちゃん+21
ClemFire
And Shaula doesn't even have white hair like Echidna
シャウラ、白髪じゃないしエキドナじゃないんだよな…完全にフラれる未来しか見えなかったわ。スバルはエミリア一筋すぎるッ!感情くん+16
According-Pea-9541
Rem did manage to squeeze a place in his heart even with the blue hair debuff, so who knows Shaula still has a (tiny) chance.
確かにレムは青髪ハンデありつつもスバルの心に割り込んだしな笑 シャウラにも(微かだけど)チャンスあるんじゃね?ギャル+9
ClemFire
Shaula is basically a gender flipped Subaru and I'm all for it. Making early bets that she will become a fan favorite Re:Zero character
シャウラって実質性別反転したスバルだよね、それ最高だわ。彼女が人気キャラになる未来に賭けるよ普通くん+20
Arachnophobic-
原文
God I can smell Shaula's heart-breaking backstory coming a mile away, it's always so with the genki girls. We already saw the crack when Subaru told her to not harm the party. Left alone for _four hundred years_, just guarding that tower/library. Who knows how long she would be stuck doing that if Subaru hadn't turned up. She feels like an artificial construct made by the Sage (who mostly likely was isekai'd like Subaru) who went and probably died.. leaving her alone and waiting forever? Ugh. I'm sure there is way more to it.
シャウラの悲痛な過去が透けて見えるな。元気っ子キャラにありがちなパターンだ。スバルが「仲間を傷つけるな」と言った時にもヒビが見えたし。 たった一人で400年間も塔と図書館を守り続けたのか。もしスバルが来なければ、あとどれだけ孤独に耐えていたんだろう。彼女は賢者(おそらくスバルと同じ異世界転移者)が作り出した人工的な存在で、賢者は死んでしまい、彼女だけが永遠に待ち続けている…という考察ができる。まだまだ深い伏線がありそうだ。考察くん+17
ClemFire
Feel like her story will be similar to Betty's and my heart is not prepared
シャウラの背景絶対ベア子と同じパターンやろ…ワイの心がもたんンゴwww2ちゃん+11
VerticalTab
I don't really understand why they rolled the credits early like that. Like, I wouldn't call that an "after-credits scene".
確かにあのタイミングでクレジット流す意味がよくわからなかったな。あれを「ポストクレジットシーン」と呼ぶのは違う気がする。普通くん+14
Severe_Ad_6482
They probably needed that extra minute to fill out runtime, every episode this season's been consistently on the 23:40 mark somehow, so I guess they decided that Subaru's realization was a good point to break it off
確かに草。尺稼ぎやろな。今期毎話23:40ピッタリなんやから、スバルの気づきで切るのが一番ええタイミングやったんやろ。2ちゃん+6
Roskal
Seeing Emilia be obviously in love with Subaru despite not knowing it gets me every time. from her being up two nights without sleep worrying about him to her kicking him for being hugged by Shaula. Emilia would normally never just randomly hurt someone but she feels jealous enough to do it here. Reminds me of how she attacked Sirius last season after she hugged Subaru too.
エミリアが自分でも気づかずにスバルに恋してるのが毎回やばいわ。二晩寝ずに心配してたかと思えば、シャウラに抱きつかれて嫉妬で蹴り入れるとか。普段のエミリアなら誰かを傷つけたりしないのに、ここまで嫉妬させるとはな。前シーズンでシリウスに抱きつかれた時も攻撃してたの思い出したわ。普通くん+14
HolyDragSwd2500
If only Shaula knew she blew off her “Master” head in the previous loop. Wondering how she’ll react
あっ、もしシャウラが前のループで「お師様」の首吹き飛ばしちゃったって知ったら…どう反応するんだろうな。マジでその反応見てみたいんだけどッ!感情くん+15
Human_Potato2264
Well wouldn't she go "i guess he wasnt my master" then no? Since she has such high opinion of Flugel
シャウラが「じゃああの人はお師様じゃなかったんだね」って言いそうだよね。だってフリューゲルをめっちゃ崇拝してるし。普通くん+12
RoseSpinoza
The episode immediately starting off with Regulus going "ano sa\~!" and going on about his violated rights felt like an incredibly specific fanservice. And i appreciated it 😄 !
オープニングからいきなりレグルスが「あのさ〜」って権利侵害の話し始めて、めっちゃコアなファンサービスすぎるッ!笑 しかも最高に刺さった!感謝!😄感情くん+13
Adventurous-Let3046
I don’t trust the fun and happiness in this anime. Something bad is coming, I just know it
このアニメの楽しい雰囲気、全然信用できない。絶対何かやばいのが来るってわかってるんだよね普通くん+13
YdenMkII
Yea they lingered a bit too long on the don't hurt me or my friends scene for it not to come up again.
それな!「俺か友達を傷つけるなら」のシーン、めっちゃ長く映してたじゃん?絶対あとで伏線回収くるやつだよね笑 まじで怖いんだけど〜ギャル+5
ruzn0pace69
Some familiar faces came back lol
おなじみの顔が戻ってきたなwww普通くん+13
AndytheBro97
Satella saying Aishiteru in surround sound while I'm wearing headphones, what a lovely start to the day!
泣いた。まじで泣いた。サテラがサラウンドで「愛してる」って言ってくるのをヘッドホンで聴くとか、朝からエモすぎるッ!優勝。感情くん+13
Ree_For_Thee
Oh boy, time to get sick to your stomach again. 😄 .... D:
おっと、また胃が痛くなる展開かよ。😄 .... D:普通くん+13
WalkingAbacus
Shaula seems like a fun character. I love how she's basically a ball of energy. My condolences to Beatrice, she clearly didn't enjoy that three person sandwich. Julius' reaction when his illusion of Reid got shattered is priceless.
シャウラは非常に魅力的なキャラクターだな。まさにエネルギーの塊といった印象で、見ていて楽しい。 ベアトリスには同情せざるを得ない。あの3人挟み撃ちは明らかに彼女のストレス要因だっただろう。 ユリウスが幻影のライドを打ち砕かれた時のリアクションは、まさに言葉にできない名場面だ。あの表情からは彼の内面の葛藤や驚愕が透けて見える。考察くん+11
zeltheturtl
Shaula is a riot, trying that in front of Emilia.
シャウラは本当に面白いな、エミリアの前でそんなことするなんて。普通くん+10
ClemFire
This reminds me so much of Subaru fawning over Emilia in S1
シャウラ、エミリアの前でそれやるの草生えすぎやろwww まさにS1のスバルがエミリアにデレデレしてたの思い出すンゴねぇ2ちゃん+8
zeltheturtl
You're right, they definitely have similar energy haha.
それな!S1の昂のエミリアへのデレデレっぷり思い出すわ〜同じ空気感すぎるw感情くん+9
ClemFire
Subaru is my fav ReZero character so I feel like I’m gonna love Shaula too
確かに、同じタイプのキャラだよね。スバルは俺もReゼロで一番好きだから、シャウラも好きになりそうだわ。普通くん+7
sigc
I love that they kept the toilet amnesia joke in the episode. Also, thank god Subaru has an autistic knowledge of Astronomy or else we'd be stuck here forever.
トイレの記憶喪失ネタそのまま残してくれて最高すぎるッ!あと、スバルが天文学にオタク知識持ってなかったら永遠に詰んでた…まじ助かったわエモい。感情くん+12
ModieOfTheEast
原文
Hey, we are back to no-opening episodes. Now, the season is really starting. I was already wondering with the way Shaula talked if Flügel was also from Subaru's world and that is where she picked up that speech pattern. But the ending solidified it. Though, I don't think that there are this many star lovers in our world, so I think it's fair to assume that Flügel also created the archbishops and gave them their names. There is still the possibility that we are dealing with some form of time travel and Flügel is actually Subaru as well, but I don't want to go too deep into that theory for now. Since we don't know enough about him.
またOPなし回か。これでシーズン本番って感じだね。 シャウラの話し方見てフリューゲルもスバルの世界出身なんじゃないかと思ってたけど、EDで確信に変わった。でも星を愛する人があんなにいるとは思えないし、大罪司教もフリューゲルが作って名前をつけたんだろうな。タイムトラベルでフリューゲル=スバル説もあり得るけど、まだ情報が足りないから深入りはやめとく。普通くん+9
Super_Spooky_
Betty is right. That smirk… that damn smirk
ベティの言う通りや。あのニヤリ顔………あのクソみたいな笑みがなァ2ちゃん+9
AceSoldia
Subaru is such a goat..id never have passed that
スバルはマジで神だわ…あれを乗り越えられるとは思えない普通くん+12
DoggedStooge
So Flügel also appears to be from our world.
フリューゲルも異世界転生者ってオチかよ草 アホすぎてワロタンゴwww2ちゃん+10
Human_Potato2264
This was established before. "Flügel was here" carved on the Flügel's tree was Japanese.
それ以前から示されてたよね。フリューゲルの木に刻まれた「フリューゲルここにいた」が日本語だったもん。普通くん+24
DoggedStooge
Ah, I didn't remember that. Thanks.
あっ、それ忘れてたわ!ありがと〜!マジで助かる!ギャル+8
AceSoldia
I swear I restarted the episode a couple times because I was sure I picked the wrong episode seeing Regulus again 🤣
マジで何度もエピソード選び直したわ。レグルス見て「あれ?間違った回選んだ?」って思って何度も戻した🤣感情くん+12
GloriousNipOnSteel
Loved the way Subaru just nonchalantly slaps away Shaula's heart, and Shaula's immediate reaction lol.
スバルがシャウラのハートを軽く叩き落としたのと、その瞬間のシャウラの反応が最高だったわ笑普通くん+9
Severe_Ad_6482
原文
Shaula recognizing Subaru by his "nose-burningly black, disgusting smell" is very interesting to me, especially considering how often we've heard of Subaru's distinct smell. Is it safe to assume Shaula is also referring to the miasma, or is it something else? Considering Flügel is definitely an other-worlder, maybe Earthlings just kinda fucking stink? I would assume that if it is Satella's miasma then it should be a smell Shaula smells... like all the time, no? I mean, Satella is literally right there under that tower with them! Just last episode we saw how strong the miasma was and I doubt they were anywhere close to unsealing Satella's tomb (prison?) It also got me theorizing about why Subaru could open those door-walls, I assume it has to do with witch factors. Subaru has Sloth and then he has either Envy or Pride's factors within him... It's safe to assume he doesn't have Regulus' witch factor, or maybe he does and it just hasn't activated or something. Either way, he probably has two shoved in there somewhere and that's why he can open them, possibly, perchance. I'm also curious about just how many people are Subaru. I've seen theories of Al being Subaru and now Flügel being Subaru, but I'm frankly iffy on anyone but Subaru being Subaru. It does all seem somewhat planned in the end, right? Subaru knows about constellations and all the sin archbishops are named after stars, Subaru himself being named after the japanese name for the Pleiades constellation. Subaru = Pleiades Pleiades = watchtower housing Satella Satella = one of the seven witches Seven Witches = Seven sisters (referring to the Pleiades' stars) Subaru = WITCH?!?!?!?!?! Jokes aside though, if I didn't know any better I'd just assume that the world of Re:Zero (which has no name iirc) is created by humans or something. Almost all the witches are named after fictional, mythological beings (Is Carmilla named after the vampire Carmilla?) the Earth constellation references and the ryokan from season 3. We already know there's more other-worlders like Al and Flügel, but just how much of this world is shaped by Earth? Now Shaula is very interesting, she smells of deception to me honestly. Maybe not in personality but definitely in knowledge or intention. She seemed eerily serious at Subaru's order not to hurt his friends, like she understood Subaru's suspicion? It's very weird, this whole thing just feels weird. We're progressing too well for what is only episode 4, shit's gonna hit the fan for sure.
シャウラがスバルのことを「鼻が曲がるほどクソ臭い」って認識してるのマジで興味深いンゴねぇ……。今まで何度もスバルの「匂い」について言及されてきたし、あれって魔女の瘴気のことなんかな?それとも別の何か?フリューゲルも異世界人って確定してるし、地球人って単純にクソ臭いだけ説あるやろwww 瘴気だとしたらシャウラは常に嗅いでるはずやん?サテラが塔の真下におるわけやし。前回のエピソードであれだけ瘴気強かったし、封印解くのまだまだ先やろ。ついでに言うとスバルがあの扉を開けられる理由も気になるンゴ。多分魔女因子のせいやろな。スバルは怠惰持ってて、そこに憤怒か傲慢の因子も入ってる……リゲルの因子は持ってないと思うけど、もし持ってたら未活性って可能性もあるか。どっちにせよ体内に2つは因子があるから開けられるんやろな、たぶん。 あとスバルが何人いるのか問題な。アル=スバル説とかフリューゲル=スバル説は見たことあるけど、ワイはスバルはスバルでいいわ。でも全部計算されとる感あるよな?スバルは星座に詳しいし、大罪司教は全部星の名前やし、スバル自身がプレアデス星団の和名やし。 スバル=プレアデス プレアデス=サテラが封印された監視2ちゃん+10
BIGFriv
About Carmilla. I do want to point out that Garfiel said that one of the witches was a vampire. We don't know which one of course, but if your idea of the name being based on the qvampire Carmilla, maybe it's the case here for ReZeros Carmilla too where she was the vampire.
それな。ガーフィールが魔女の一人は吸血鬼って言ってたの思い出したわ。どの魔女かはわかんないけど、カルミラって名前が吸血鬼のカルミラ由来なら、Re:ゼロのカルミラも吸血鬼説ありそうだね。普通くん+6
khanvau
原文
No OP this time. Well, here we go again. Petelgeuse and Regulus: "Nobody invited us. But we're here anyway." Man, Petelgeuse looks more disgusting than usual in Season 4 artstyle. Wtf happened to him. SHE'S HERE! SHAULA IS HERE! SHE'S SOOOO ADORABLE. Ai Fairouz was literally the perfect pick to voice her. And apparently, she didn't even audition for the role. The staff asked her to voice Shaula directly, and she accepted. We were blessed. And I LOVE how expressive she is! White Fox really did a great job. The production value of Season 4 is just unbelievable after going through Season 2 six years ago. Lmao Emilia got jealous and kicked Subaru. That's rare. But love to see it. Subaru impressed everyone with his elite ball knowledge again. This episode was the calm after the storm that was Episodes 2 and 3. And since this is Re:ZERO it's basically the calm before the storm too. This episode was over too fast. I can't wait for the next one.
今期はOPなし、か。まあ、また始まったな。 ペテルギウスとレグルス:「誰も呼んでないけど、勝手に来たぜ」って感じだな。 ペテルギウス、4期の作画で見るとさらに気持ち悪くなってない? 何があったんだ。 来たぞ! シャウラが来た! めっちゃ可愛い! アイ・フェアリーズは完璧なキャスティングだった。しかもオーディションすら受けてないらしい。スタッフが直接オファーして、彼女が受けたんだと。まさに恵まれた配役だ。何より表情が豊かで最高! ホワイトフォックスの仕事ぶりは本当に素晴らしい。6年前の2期を経験した後だと、4期の制作クオリティは信じられないレベルだ。 エミリアが嫉妬してスバルを蹴ったの笑った。珍しいけど、こういうの好き。 スバルがまたボール知識でみんなを圧倒したな。このエピソードは2話・3話の嵐の後の静けさって感じ。でもRe:ゼロだから、これも嵐の前の静けさに過ぎないんだよな。あっという間に終わった。次回が待ちきれない。考察くん+9
FateXBlood
Wow, Shaula's personality is VERY different from what I imagined. Also, she's named after a star? That's cool. I guess if you're the guardian of the Pleiades tower, that's bound to be.
シャウラの性格、想像してたのと全然違ったわ。それに星の名前なんだ?かっこいいね。プレアデスの塔の番人ならそうなるのも納得だわ。普通くん+8
Life_Fortune5054
Most of the archbishops and Subaru are named after stars. In fact the tower's name to Japanese means Subaru
せやな。大罪司教もスバルも大体星の名前や。塔の名前も日本語に直すと「スバル」やしな。シャウラの性格、ワイも想像と全然違って草生えたわwww2ちゃん+11
Rencrack
RIGELLL
リゲルぅぅぅぅ!!やばくね!?まじでこの展開エモすぎるんだけど笑ギャル+9
Civil-Initial2942
原文
So what, Flugel = Subaru? Is Subaru the reincarnation of Flugel? Is Flugel a Subaru who traveled back in time 400 years? During being isekaied did Subaru's soul split in two, with one half ending up 400 years ago and the other in the present day? Is Subaru some kind of artificially created clone of Flugel? Perhaps Satella wanted to recreate Flugel so badly that her authority created Subaru? Who is Flugel? Who is blue-haired Girl? Who is this purple-haired knight? So many questions and no answers.
つまり、 フリューゲル=スバルってこと? スバルはフリューゲルの生まれ変わり? それともフリューゲルは400年前にタイムスリップしたスバルなの? 異世界召喚された時にスバルの魂が2つに分裂して、片方が400年前に行き、もう片方が現代に来たとか? スバルはフリューゲルの人工クローン的な存在?もしかしてサテラがフリューゲルを再現したくて、その権能でスバルを作り出したとか? フリューゲルって誰? 青髪の少女は誰? この紫髪の騎士は誰? 疑問だらけで答えが一切ないな普通くん+7
MMinjin
Why is everyone shrugging off the possibility that Subaru is actually Flugel as Shaula thinks? Aren't we supposed to sit with that and think about it?
マジでそれな!みんなシャウラが言ってた「お師様=フリューゲル=スバル」って可能性を軽く流しすぎじゃない?! 考えれば考えるほどエモすぎるし、もっとちゃんと向き合うべきだと思うんだけどッ!感情くん+8
AGJustin05
the way some of the comments here tiptoe around the idea low-key makes me think they're source readers who are careful about getting outted not knowing it makes them look more sus
確かに、みんなが「スバル=フリューゲル」説を軽く流してるの気になるよね。コメントの反応見てると、原作読者がバレないように気をつけてる感じが逆に怪しく見えるんだよな。普通くん+7
animdalf
原文
Well at least for me so far, because Flügel's actions don't make sense, unless Subaru goes completely nuts and has a 180 degree personality turn at some point. * The guy that usually wants to save everyone, even sometimes the people that hurt him in some alternative timelines, has given command to indiscriminately kill anyone that approaches the tower? * The guy that was so outraged about Betty's situation, to the point he decided to dedicate his life to keeping her company, would force someone else into basically the same pointless mission of being alone for 400 years guarding another library? Really? There is obviously a connection being build there, and it could lead into some very tragic fall from grace storyline ... but I just don't buy it in the same way I don't buy that Emilia is somehow Satella. I just think it's too on the nose, seems like a red herring to me.
せやな、ワイも今んとこフリューゲル=スバル説には懐疑的やわ。 ・基本全員助けようとする奴が、塔に近づく奴は問答無用で殺せって命令するとは思えんやろ ・ベアトリスに「おらんくなったら寂しい」って言ってた奴が、400年も一人で図書館守らせる同じようなポジションに別の奴を放り込むとか草生えるわ 何か繋がりはあるんやろうけど、エミリア=サテラ説と同じでワイは信じられへんな。あからさま過ぎてミスリードやと思うンゴwww2ちゃん+5
koteshima2nd
原文
Subaru just said RBD aloud with Beako probably hearing it? Was that an error or was that intentional? There *has* to be either some time travel or another isekai'd person shenanigans happening here since that Monolith puzzle was made almost exactly for someone like Subaru, what with the IRL constellations and such. It might also explain why "Shaula" is persistent about Subaru being "Flügel", maybe isekai'd people have some certain smell to them Edit: oh wait now that I think on it, the solution has something heavily to do with Subaru. Choosing between Betelgeuse and Rigel (Regulus?).
スバルがベアトリスにRBDのことを口にしちゃった気がするんだけど、あれミスなのか意図的なのかな? あのモノリスパズルがスバルにぴったり設計されてる感じがするし、時間移動か別の異世界転移者が関わってるのは間違いないと思う。現実の星座とか使ってるしね。それにシャウラがスバルを「フリューゲル」って呼び続けてるのも、異世界転移者には特定の匂いがあるからとかかもしれない。 追記:よく考えたら、答えはベテルギウスとリゲル(レグルス?)の選択で、スバル自身に大きく関係してるんだな。普通くん+7
Guaymaster
Regulus is also a star but it's the brightest star in Leo, not Orion. Iirc this is in fact how Subaru figured out Regulus's ability, as the star is the "heart" of the Lion (and incidentally, Betelgeuse is the "hand" of Orion).
確かに意味深だな。レグルスが獅子座で最も明るい星(獅子の心臓)であり、ベテルギウスがオリオン座の「手」という命名の一致は、作者が意図的に配置した伏線と見て間違いないだろう。スバルがレグルスの能力を看破したのも、この星の知識が基盤になっていると考えられる。制作陣は天体の象徴性を物語構造に巧みに組み込んでいるんだな。考察くん+14
Numan_1v9
Regulus and Rigel are different stars.
まじで!?スバルがベアトリスにRBDのこと言っちゃったってこと!?やばくねそれ!?笑 【返信】 レグルスとリゲルは全然違う星なんだよね〜。てか作者がそこわざとやってるならすげーな!ギャル+5
Disastrous_Channel62
feat. ORB
feat. ORBって草ァ!2ちゃん+5
Pixelchu25
原文
Aside from the Satella power and Roswaal from Season 2, it feels like there’s something more to this story. It can’t just be a crazy coincidence that Subaru resembles Flugel (by being the aura monster) and there’s like parallels to it too. Like the Orion puzzle just happens to work here because Subaru knows astronomy and myths really well. I don’t think the average person would know about this at all lol. It does remind me how his knowledge helped defeat Regulus as well. Yeah, there definitely has to be more to the story than just how he conveniently knows astronomy. Also, I kinda see the resemblance of Shaula in Beatrice. Both of them for 400 years or so have been managing a library and have space-warping abilities (Sand Time and Forbidden Library).
サテラの力やS2のロズワールの件以外にも、この物語にはもっと深い仕掛けがあると感じる。スバルがフリューゲルと似ている(オーラモンスター的な存在として)のは、ただの偶然とは思えないんだよな。 例えばオリオン座のパズルがたまたま解けるのも、スバルが天文学や神話に詳しいからであって、普通の人には絶対無理だろ(笑)。これはレグルス戦でも彼の知識が役立ったのを思い出させる。つまり、彼がたまたま天文学を知ってる以上の必然性が物語に隠されていると考察できる。 あと、シャウラとベアトリスには共通点が見られる。どちらも約400年にわたって図書館を管理し、空間を歪める能力(砂時計と禁書庫)を持っている点が興味深い。考察くん+7
ptd163
原文
Hello everyone. I just finished catching up to Re:Zero today. This might one of the best episodes of the entire series. Astronomy lore, Satella looking hotter than last time, and a new best girl candidate. I love Shaula already. She's adorkable, bubbly, and sexy with a great outfit. She even made Emilia jealous and pout which was so precious. Hopefully that means Emilia's feelings are growing towards Subaru. I mean you don't get jealous about people you don't care about. That said, something doesn't feel right. Things are lining up too neatly for Subaru and it's causing this tension. I think it's safe to say that Flugel is from Earth, but why does Subaru have the same smell as Flugel? Shaula says that she was Flugel's student so I don't think it's a stretch to say that her her outfit matches her master's colour scheme, but why is that Subaru's colour scheme as well? How did Flugel name her? Is she a spirt Flugel created? Why does this Watchtower have a puzzle that requires knowledge from another world? Why does the Watchtower and Subaru share a name? So many dang questions. We'll find out more eventually. One is for sure. Everything keeps coming back to something happening 400 years and Subaru is somehow connected to it. It's as if whatever happened 400 years ago was so bad that couldn't be fixed so they had to reset the world by sealing Satella and reincarnating Flugel as Subaru with Return By Death as a failsafe so what happened 400 years doesn't happen again.
今日Re:Zeroに追いついたんだけど、このエピソードシリーズ全体でもトップクラスじゃない?天文の設定とか、サテラが前より魅力的に見えるとか、新たな最優秀ヒロイン候補も出てきたし。 シャウラもう大好き。可愛くて元気でセクシーで衣装もいい。エミリアが嫉妬してふくれっ面してるのも尊すぎた。それってエミリアのスバルへの気持ちが成長してる証拠だよね。気にしてない人には嫉妬しないし。 でもなんか引っかかるんだよな。スバルに都合良く事が進みすぎてて緊張感がある。フリューゲルが地球出身ってのは間違いなさそうだけど、なぜスバルが同じ匂いなんだ?シャウラはフリューゲルの弟子って言ってたから衣装の色合いが師匠と合ってるのは分かるけど、それがスバルの色合いでもあるのはなぜ?フリューゲルはどうやって彼女に名前を付けたんだ?彼女はフリューゲルが作った精霊なのか?なぜこの監視塔には異世界の知識が必要なパズルがあるんだ?なぜ塔とスバルは同じ名前なんだ? 疑問が多すぎる。でもいずれ分かるさ。確かなのは、全てが400年前の出来事に繋がっていて、スバルがそれに関係してるってこと。まるで400年前の何かがあまりに酷くて修正できず、サテラを封印してフリューゲルをスバルとして転生させ、死に戻りを保険として設定することで世界をリセ普通くん+8
charactergallery
Even though Re:Zero doesn’t seem to be inspired by a specific time period analogous to the real world (as opposed to just, common fantasy aesthetics), some of the clothing choices still come across as anachronistic to me.  And no character so far irks me as much as Shaula. Why is she wearing a bikini top and booty shorts? The cape is cool but come on.
確かにRe:Zeroは特定の時代背景を模した世界観ではないが、シャウラのビキニトップとホットパンツは明らかに時代錯誤感が否めない。マントはクールだが、あの露出度の高い服装はプレアデス監視塔の番人としての威厳や、400年という長い年月を過ごした存在としての重みと矛盾しているように思える。制作陣が意図的に彼女のキャラクター性(お師様への盲目的忠誠や無邪気さ)を強調するためのビジュアル表現と考察できるが、個人的にはもう少し設定に沿った服装の方が作品の世界観に統一感が出たのではないか。考察くん+6
roronoa20
Blame her master, I think. Flugel seems to be someone from Subaru's world who taught Shaula English and she doesn't seem to be human either, so perhaps she might be an existence similar to Beatrice where her clothing is a part of her design by Flugel. TLDR: Flugel is a gooner who gives Shaula a sexy design, because he can.
それってフリューゲルのせいだと思うんだよね。 フリューゲルはスバルと同じ世界から来たっぽくて、シャウラに英語を教えた人物。彼女も人間じゃなさそうだし、服装はベアトリスと同じくフリューゲルがデザインした一部なんじゃないかな。 つまり、フリューゲルは自分ができるからってシャウラにセクシーなデザインを与えた変態ってこと。普通くん+30
ChicaneryFinger
It's as if she's designed to be a particularly odd, eccentric, and unique entity or something
それな!シャウラって「変わり者」って設定を超えて、もう「唯一無二の存在」として設計されてる感じがするわ。普通じゃないし、そのクセが強すぎてむしろ好き。エモすぎる。感情くん+10
bananeeek
Genki Fairouz Ai is a gem.
まじでファイルーズあいの元気な演技、やばくない!?超最高なんだけど笑ギャル+5
UnderstandableXO
this episode was the calm after the storm that we needed (and probably before another 10 storms). fairouz ai really stole the show this episode though, she’s bringing the strong dumbass energy she did with power for shaula. the biggest revelation of the episode is that subaru paid attention during what little astronomy he learned in school before becoming a truant
今のエピソードは嵐の後の静けさという感じで、まさに必要だった(そしておそらく次の10の嵐の前触れだ)。ただ、Fairouz Aiが今回の主役をさらったな。彼女がシャウラに与えた「強くてバカな」雰囲気、まさにパワーでやってたのと同じだ。最大の伏線は、スバルが不登校になる前に学校で少しだけ学んだ天文学を覚えていたことだな。制作陣の意図が読める。考察くん+7
baseballlover723
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Tagging u/HyVana, u/ussgordoncaptain2 and u/camthegodoflol. If anyone else wants to be added to the tag list, let me know. Pete's looking a bit different than Season 1. It really shows how much nicer this season has been visually. I think this is the best look at Satella we've ever gotten. Hmmm. Real or fake**I think fake** Must be fake Mentioning RBD is a no no. Maybe not fake Satella slacking on the job Master? What type of dere is this? "Forever". How long is "forever" exactly? **400 years like everything else?** Student? The easiest ally of Subaru's life? Nani That's a "no problem" I wonder if Shaula's master was Satella then. The start of a Doujin. "stick swinger" and "sarcastic". Interesting titles Father time undefeated. Rip Lebron **He'll come for you too** Ram is the best. Again?! Flugel? Maybe we shouldn't tell Shaula that we destroyed his tree. Oh, if they're gonna bring this up, people should know that there's Japanese etched into the tree here. Which, might I remind you, was not recognized as language by Ram. IIRC, it's actually kinda similar to Subaru's doodle and was like "Flugel was here". No handrails always make me nervous. Hell, no back part to stairs makes me nervous, like I might slip and fall through the gap I most definitely can't fit through. I wonder, are we gonna be shown what happened to the others during last episode? Given that Shaula used some English, I wonder if she recognizes Subaru as being Pleiades? love, love, love you? How traumatic That sounds like something Echidna would do. The door closing behind Subaru makes me nervous. Rule #8, when in doubt, know your way out. As expected, 400 years. I'll probably be 400 years old by the time I figure out what happened 400 years ago. Good idea Subaru. Gotta cover our bases while we can Exam arc? I mean, he is a stick swinger. If I came across a stick swinger on the street I'd also be scared of them too. Well, that's quite the assessment. Shaulasception. A White Sky Asterism? That's a new word for me. ED The eerie vibe is one that's growing on me a lot. Anyways, I'm guess the solution is to touch the monoliths to form a constellation (or asterism). I'm guessing either Pleiades or Orion (which someone on Twitter pointed out is on the episode title screen). That would also explain why the brute force strategy didn't work, if it needs a specific combination of monoliths to be touched without error. But I'm still not sure how Subaru got there. Since he didn't see the title screen. Betelgeuse mentioned! See my source corner comment for more on that. Ayy, they did it!
【翻訳】 u/HyVana、u/ussgordoncaptain2、u/camthegodoflolをタグ。他に追加希望者は教えてくれ。 ピート、S1と見た目変わったな。今期の作画マジで綺麗やわ。 サテラの最高画質きたな。 本物か偽物か…偽物やろ。RBD言及はアウト。サテラがサボってる説。 お師様ってどのデレやねん。 「永遠」って正確にどのくらい?400年説ある? 生徒? スバル史上イチ簡単な味方? NANI 「問題ない」ってやつ。 シャウラの師匠ってサテラなんか。 同人誌の始まりやん。 「棒振り」と「皮肉屋」。面白い称号やな。 父なる時間は無敵。レブロン君もやられるで。 ラム最強。またかよ! フリューゲル?あの木壊したこと言わんほうがええんちゃう? あの木に日本語の刻印あるんやで。ラムが言語認識できなかったやつ。スバルの落書きみたいなやつで「フリューゲル来訪」って書いてあったらしい。 手すりない階段ガチで怖い。滑って落ちそうでな。 前回の仲間たちの様子、今回描かれるんか? シャウラが英語使うってことは、スバルをプレアデスって認識してる? 愛してる×3?トラウマやん。 エキドナっぽいわ。 スバルの後ろの扉閉まるの怖い。ルール8、逃げ道確保しとけ2ちゃん+7
Aesclypius
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This menacing tension that just won't let up regarding Subaru, himself. It's an ongoing theme of the show, that there may be something wrong with Subaru that's fundamental to this whole situation. Simple questions like: 1) why is he a Sin Archduke, 2) why are all the names of bad guys things that he, specifically, would have used, and 3) why does the witch love him? Did they mess with time at some point in all this? Is the witch really Emilia? This Flugel business is just another hot mess stacked on top of an even bigger hot mess balanced on top of a bunch of Subaru's dead bodies (and the bodies of his friends). This show is too good at pain.
スバル自身を取り巻く、この絶え間ない不気味な緊張感がすごいよね。この作品の一貫したテーマとして、スバル自身に何か根本的な問題があるんじゃないかって感じさせるんだ。単純な疑問として:1) なんで彼が大罪司教なのか、2) なんで敵の名前が全部スバルが使いそうなものなのか、3) なんで魔女が彼を愛してるのか。 この中で時間操作があったのか?魔女って実はエミリアなのか?このフリューゲル関連の話は、スバルと仲間たちの死体の山の上に積み重なった、さらに大きな混乱の上に乗っかってるクソみたいな混乱だよ。 この作品、痛みを描くのが上手すぎるんだよな。普通くん+6
Not__Trash
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Fluegel is either an all-knowing sage as purported, and set up this tower to directly test Subaru or it's old man Subaru preparing his past (future?) self for the trials to come. The latter also works with Return by Death and being from the future. If he can always succeed and already knows what will come to pass, how would he not be a sage? Also, if it IS in fact Subaru, my tinfoil hat theory that there are branching Subaru's feel even stronger. What if Sage Subaru is one who took Echidna's deal in s2 and now knows all? While Aldebaran (who should surprising reverence to Emilia, similar demeanor, and spotted the Hoshin switcheroo early). Anyway I'm along for the ride.
フリューゲルは噂通り全知の賢者で、この塔をスバルを直接試すために作ったか、あるいは未来のスバルが過去の自分を試すために準備したってことやろな。後者の説は死に戻りや未来から来たって設定とも合うし。もし常に成功して未来を知ってるなら、賢者じゃないわけないやん。 ついでに、もし本当にスバル本人なら、分岐するスバルがいるってワイの仮説がさらに強くなるンゴ。S2でエキドナの取引を受けた賢者スバルが全部知ってて、アルデバラン(エミリアに妙に敬意払ってて態度似てて、ホーシンの入れ替わりも早く見抜いてた)は別ルートとか。まあとにかくワイは楽しむだけや。2ちゃん+6
n080dy123
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I wanna see more of Betelgeuse and Regulus harassing Subaru in his dreams as double devils on his shoulder. That'd be a fantastic addition. ...huh. Rem would be seathing right now. And while she's not a loli, she sure fucking behaves like a child. Meanwhile Emilia, despite sort of doing the tsundere react, somehow does it in the most adorably dainty way possible. "Where did you possibly learn that line?" DON'T CUT TO JULIUS AFTER THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER FORESHADOWING LINE. MY NAGATSUKI DETECTOR IS BUZZING. And yeah, basically confirmed by the constellation thing. Flugel has knowledge of Earth- is he an isekai'd character as well? "Reid" the Sword Saint? That's a name that's come up before (I think Garf mentioned him in one of his references to folktale books), as a famous swordsman, but it's surprising that was all he was referred to as if he was the Sword Saint once. Volcanica is also indeed the name of the dragon the Lugunica royal family made a covenant with to establish the nation, so Reid must've been OLD to die of old age relatively recently. Yep, Flugel the Sage. I noted the discrepancy before, with Shaula being known as the Sage, when we'd previously heard the name "Flugel the Sage." The one who planted the tree, and the one Geuse apologized to when he took in the Authority of Sloth. I think Subaru's connection to him goes deeper than potentially being touched by a Witch of Sin, which is why he could open those doors- I don't see having a connection with a Witch letting you through if that was indeed where Satella was sealed. Seems like the exact opposite people you'd want getting in. If Shaula attacks people by magically manipulating her hair to strike at people like it's a scorpion tail, I'm gonna laugh. I wonder if the spirit there could heal Ram's severed horn. Julius's line about it being fitting that it's called a monolith feels like a nod to 2001: A Space Odyssey. I'd like to point out that the stars of Orion's Belt point in one direction to the star Aldebaraan, the eye of the constellation Taurus (a bull Orion hunted), and in the other to Sirius in the constellation Canis Major (one of Orion's dogs). And inside the head of Taurus lies the Pleiades star cluster, the Seven Sisters whom Orion was said to have chased. The Subaru. That plus Betelgeuse being the most prominent star in Orion, feels like it can't all be coincidence.
ペテルギウスとレグルスがスバルの夢の中で両肩の悪魔みたいに現れて絡んでくるの、もっと見たいわ。めっちゃいい追加要素になりそう。 …レム、今の状況見たら激怒してそうだな。ロリじゃないけど明らかに子供みたいな振る舞いしてるし。一方エミリアはツンデレっぽい反応しつつも、めちゃくちゃ可愛く上品にやってるんだよな。 「そんな台詞どこで覚えたんだ?」→この後にジュリウスにカットするのやめてくれ、それまた伏線だろ。俺の長月探知機が鳴ってる。そして星座の件でほぼ確定だな。フリューゲルは地球の知識持ってるってことは、彼も異世界転生者なんじゃないか? 「ライド」って剣聖?前に名前出てきたよな(ガーフが昔話の本で言及してた気がする)。有名な剣士ってだけかと思ったら、まさか元剣聖だったとは。ヴォルカニカはルグニカ王家が国を築く時に契約した龍の名前だし、ライドは老衰で死ぬまで相当長生きしたんだな。 そう、賢者フリューゲルだよ。前にシャウラが賢者って呼ばれてるのと食い違ってるって気づいてたんだ。木を植えた人で、ゲュースが怠惰の権能を受け継いだ時に謝罪した相手。スバルとの繋がりは魔女に触れられただけじゃなくてもっと深いと思う。だからあの扉を開けられたんだろ。もしあそこに普通くん+7
hovsep56
the music when subaru figured out the puzzle was absolute cinema
あのスバルが謎解いたときのBGM、まじで神すぎたんだけど!映画レベルじゃん!ギャル+7
ShadowGuyinRealLife
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Where have we heard Flugel before? I remember Flugel's tree. I'm a bit surprised Shaula says her master is Flugel and not Satella if she recognizes him by scent. And that's a pretty bad way to recognize someone since unless the smell is caused by magic (like the witch's miasma) scent can rub off onto other things. That garden that Subaru calls a jungle looks very cool. It seems there were man-built marble structures there now being overrun by roots. The artists put a lot of work into it. I wonder how the trees live since there doesn't seem to be enough light. Are the trees magical? Are some of them normal trees but the spirit of the room nourishes them? I'm surprised Ram was able to interrogate the room's spirit (since Ram is able to explain everything to Subaru she must have found out earlier) while Subaru was knocked out since I would have thought Emillia would have done it. I just love Shaula's bouncy boobs. I don't care that I don't think they could bounce like that. I mean they are strapped down by her outfit. So I assume that would prevent bouncing the same way a bikini would.
フリューゲルの名前はどこで聞いたっけ?確かフリューゲルの木があったよね。シャウラが匂いで主人を認識するなら、サテラじゃなくてフリューゲルって言うのはちょっと意外。でも匂いって魔女の瘴気みたいに魔法由来じゃない限り、他の物に移るから識別方法としては微妙だな。 スバルがジャングルって呼んでた庭園、すごくカッコよかった。人工の大理石構造物が根に侵食されてる感じが芸術性高い。光が足りなさそうなのにどうやって木が生きてるんだろう?魔法の木なのか、それとも部屋の精霊が養分を与えてるのか?ラムが部屋の精霊を尋問できたのも意外だった(スバルに全部説明できたってことは事前に聞き出してたんだろうな)。スバルが気絶してる間はエミリアがやると思ってたのに。 シャウラのぷるぷるおっぱい最高。物理的にありえない跳ね方だって気にしない。だって衣装で押さえつけられてるし、ビキニと同じで跳ねないはずなんだけどね。普通くん+5
sigc
Juice also apologizes to Flugel before he takes in the Witch Factor of Sloth in season 2. Liliana mentions Flugel in season 3 during her personal episode as well.
それな、フリューゲルの名前あちこちで出てきてるよな。S2でスバルが怠惰の魔女因子取り込む前に謝ってたのもそうだし、S3のリリアナの個人回でも触れてたンゴwww2ちゃん+13
Best_Trouble_7676
Man Subaru really does have encyclopedic knowledge of stars.
マジでスバルの星に関する知識量やばすぎるッ!優勝!感情くん+5
Roskal
Meili calling Shaula naked, reminds me of another anime where characters in a fantasy land didn't have a concept of swimsuits and assumed it was underwear just like this. I can't remember which anime it was but I wonder if Flugal designed her outfit with knowledge from our world and its unusual in lugunica.
メィリィがシャウラを「裸」って呼ぶの、他のアニメでもファンタジー世界のキャラが水着の概念なくて下着扱いしてたの思い出すな。どのアニメか忘れたけど、フリューゲルが俺たちの世界の知識でシャウラの服デザインして、ルグニカじゃ変に見えるって可能性もあるのかなって思った。普通くん+7
ruzn0pace69
Flugel got mentioned atleast once in all seasons so its cool that it is becoming a relevant plot point
まじでフリューゲルの名前って毎シーズンちょっとずつ出てきてたからさ、今回ちゃんと話の重要ポイントになってきてるのやばくね!?テンション上がるじゃん!ギャル+6
AnusBlaster5000
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Holy shit Subaru really is Flugel isnt he? Lets look at the details here: Shaula's color scheme is identical to Subaru's She knows "Engrish" phrases Subaru says The puzzle requires isekai'd knowledge He has the same miasma as Flugel The watchtower is actually placed directly over Satella's (Emelia?) tomb and is protecting that location from being accessed Flugel planted that tree exactly because he knew what it would be needed for. Somehow Flugel/Subaru is in a much larger time loop than we had imagined and planned things centuries in advance to ensure victory in a subsequent loop.
マジかよ、スバルって実はフリューゲルなのか? 詳細見てみよう: - シャウラのカラーリングがスバルと完全一致 - スバルが言う「イングリッシュ」フレーズを知ってる - パズルに異世界知識が必要 - フリューゲルと同じ瘴気を持ってる - 監視塔は実はサテラ(エミリア?)の墓の真上に建てられてて、そこへのアクセスを防いでる - フリューゲルは木を植えた時点で後の必要性を知ってたんだよ。つまりフリューゲル/スバルは思ってたよりずっと大きな時間ループの中にいて、何世紀も前から後のループでの勝利を計画してたってことになる普通くん+5
WhoThisguy_is241
Even crunchyroll doesn't respect regulus rights, that they put the skip thing middialogue
もうッ!Crunchyrollもレグロスを尊重しなさすぎだろ!!会話の途中にスキップボタン入れるとかマジでありえない…感情くん+6
mobott
Anime only, so I have no idea what's going on with this, but yeah it seemed deliberate that Shaula has some otherworld knowledge. Like...she was doing finger guns, which doesn't make sense in a world without guns. Plus she had Engrish phrases, which I don't remember if any native characters had any.
アニメ勢だから詳しくはわかんないけど、シャウラが異世界知識持ってるのは意図的っぽいよね。指で撃つ仕草とか、銃のない世界じゃおかしいし。あと英語混じりの言葉遣いも、他のキャラにあったっけ?って感じ。普通くん+7
ExpertRule
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Holy, Yūsuke Kobayashi was not exaggerating before the season aired when he specifically praised Fairouz Ai for her performance. In less than 20 minutes of screentime, she is close to or has arguably already stolen the whole season. Major props to the animators, who clearly understand and are doing everything in their power to give Shaula the quick and energetic movements that correspond both with the character and personality and presence Fairouz Ai is bringing to it. Overall, a slower episode than the madness of last week, but one that properly sets up the mystery of the watchtower. I would say Fairouz Ai single handedly maintained the engagement with the episode.
草マジかよwww 小林裕介が放送前にFairouz Aiの演技を絶賛してたのガチだったんか 20分も出番ないのにシーズン通して一番のインパクト残したやん シャウラの動きとかキャラに合っててアニメーターも神がかってるわ 先週のカオスに比べたら落ち着いた回やけど、監視塔の謎をちゃんと伏線張ってたな Fairouz Aiだけでこの回持たせたのマジで草生える2ちゃん+5
wordsdear
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Way to go not dying this episode Subaru! I thought bikini girl was going to be the sage so this is a fun twist. I am a bit worried about them all calling Subaru by his real name in front of the scary lady who thinks he is someone else but I am glad she hasn't gotten suspicious so far. The zoom in on the spots in her eyes earleir was ominious as hell. A library used by/created by someone from our world who also smelled like the witch of envy. And likely the person that Satellia thinks that Subaru is as well. We are getting teased answers but I feel like we are just going to get more questions. The smell thing trips me up as I think Rem could smell it, Betty can, and Garf can't actually. I kinda thought the answer would be written in japanese through the layout of the monoliths but nope constellations which is cool. Subaru naming the stones is not a good sign for Flugel not being a past/future version of him but more likely just what someone from our world in Japan would call them anyways. I legit flinched when he said Betelgeuse, I am still traumatized by that man. I hope at least some of these books are recreations from our world and Subaru can nerd out over them. How is this library organized and catalogued I hoping they go into it a bit We have a library in a desert so as Avatar the last airbender has taught me, watch out for owl spirits. I am guessing Shaula is a spirit as she isn't human? She is named after a mythical scorpion maybe she demi scorpion human?
今回スバル死ななかったね!水着の子が賢者だと思ってたからこの展開は面白い。怖いお姉さんの前で本名呼ばれてヒヤヒヤしたけど、まだ疑われてなくて良かった。あの目の斑点のズームはマジで不気味だったな。魔女の匂いがする異世界人が作った図書館…多分サテラがスバルと勘違いしてる人物のものか。答えが見えそうで見えない感じ。匂いに関してはレムとベアトリスは感知できるけどガーフはできないんだよね。 モノリスが日本語の配置で答えになるかと思ったら星座か、それもカッコいい。スバルが星に名前をつけるのはフリューゲルが過去or未来の自分じゃない証拠にはならないな、異世界人の日本人なら普通にやるし。ベテルギウスって言った時ビビったわ、あの男のトラウマが。せめて一部の本は異世界の再現版でスバルがオタク語りできるといいな。図書館の分類システムも気になる。 砂漠の図書館ってことで『Avatar』の教訓的にフクロウの精霊に注意しないと。シャウラは人間じゃないなら精霊かな?伝説のサソリから名前取ってるから半サソリ人間とか?普通くん+6
Leptafinwe
\*Many lifes time
※「Many lifes time」→「Many lifetimes」と解釈して翻訳 何度も人生やり直してる感じやな… ワイには耐えられんわマジで草2ちゃん+5