+2851
AlexRaines
Hot Chick, Hot Chick, Sexy Chick, Brat, Brat, Follower, Wuss.
やばくね!?このキャラ描写まじで当たってるじゃん笑
「イケメン、イケメン、セクシー、クソガキ、クソガキ、イエスマン、ヘタレ」って感じ?てか分かりみが深すぎる~!ギャル+906
thekoreansun
The camera scanning over everybody in that scene is such a great touch. Really lends to the absurdity of the situation.
同意!あのシーンで全員をカメラが映す演出、最高すぎるッ!状況のシュールさがヤバい。感情くん+396
Mundology
That and the shot of everybody juding Shaula for saying something inconsiderate about fairies were nice
それな。あと、妖精に対して無神経なこと言ったシャウラをみんながジト目で見てるカットも良かったね。普通くん+252
animdalf
She really tried the "fck them spirits, amirite?" stand-up routine in front of 3 spirit arts users, a spirit, and a spirit possessing a human body
あのシャウラの「精霊なんてクソだよな?」みたいなノリ、ガチで空気読めてなさすぎて草www
精霊使い3人+精霊+憑依されてる人間の前でやるネタじゃねえわwww2ちゃん+332
LaverniusTucker
I think that's a weird translation/continuity error. She's clearly talking about spirits, fairies were established to be something else in season one when Emilia was offended after Subaru told her she looked like a fairy.
確かに、あれは変な翻訳だよね。明らかに精霊の話をしてるのに、フェアリーって訳すのはおかしい。S1でエミリアが昂に妖精みたいって言われて怒ってたシーンで、ちゃんと別物って設定されてたのに。普通くん+66
BosuW
Re zero keeps having better comedic timing than the vast majority of comedies
それな!Reゼロのコメディの間、絶妙すぎてまじで笑うんだけど笑
他のコメディアニメよりよっぽどツボ押さえてるじゃん!ギャル+51
ClemFire
Re:Zero comedy is always on point
確かに、Re:Zeroのコメディのタイミングは毎回完璧だよね普通くん+13
WhoiusBarrel
The way he said "Sexy Chick" in such a deep voice, even better when he calls himself a stick swinger.
Man is not beating any allegations.
それな。「Sexy Chick」をあんな低い声で言われるとヤバいッ!しかも自分で「棒振り回すやつ」って名乗ってるの最高すぎる。
無罪主張しても無理だろこれ(笑)感情くん+333
Frontier246
He's a Tomokazu Sugita character, he embraces the allegations lol.
確かに杉田智和のキャラだもんな、その疑惑を自ら楽しんでる感じが笑えるわ普通くん+188
lordposedyon
Has a folder of girls in bunny outfits in school's computer.
ふむ…杉田智和殿のキャラなら、さもありなん。学校のPCにバニーガールのフォルダを所持しておるとは、実に彼らしい振る舞いでござるな。武士+72
CitronClassic672
If tradition holds, I wonder if that means Matt Mercer will voice him in the dub?
それな!杉田智和のキャラってまじでそういうの引き受けるタイプじゃん笑
もし今までの流れで行くなら、英語吹き替えはMatt Mercerになるのかな?気になる〜!ギャル+7
NecronLord_Europe
> "Sexy Chick"
*Ero* chick.
>> "Sexy Chick"
*エロ* チックやろ2ちゃん+55
actionfirst1
I like how the only one who took offense to all that was Julius being called a Follower. He'd never simp for anyone ~~who isn't named Subaru~~
それな!ジュリアスだけ「Follower」呼ばわりにマジギレしてるの笑ったw
絶対スバル以外には媚びない男だよな〜優勝すぎるッ!感情くん+146
Frontier246
Also Subaru whose not about to let his waifu get leered at and objectified by a skeezy man (especially when her current outfit leaves very little to the imagination).
それな。スバルも自分の嫁がスケベな目で見られるの絶対許せないタイプだしな(特に今の服装だと想像しやすいから余計に)。普通くん+97
CitronClassic672
Crazy and honestly impressive how Emilia’s new outfit this season is less revealing than her old one, yet feels even sexier because of how form fitting it is.
うむ、某(それがし)も同感にござる。エミリア殿の新たな装束、旧来のものより露出こそ控えめなれど、身体に沿う布地ゆえに逆に艶やかさが際立つ。これは見事な采配であるな。武士+48
ClemFire
Julius will not let any other man interfere with his bromance with Subaru
確かにユリウスはスバルとの友情に誰も邪魔させないって感じだよね普通くん+10
Human_Potato2264
Even reid avoids lolis shame on you subaru
え、ちょっと笑ったんだけど!レイトすらロリは避けてるのにスバルはガン無視ってやばくね!?まじで恥ずかしい奴じゃん笑ギャル+113
absolutelynotaname
yeah because he's a dick
せやな、アイツはクソ野郎やからなwww2ちゃん+21
khriku
his personality is far worse tho... he is way too agressive and loud, Shaula was right to call him a scum that didn't grow up
確かにリードの性格の方がひどいよな…あいつ攻撃的すぎてうるさいし、シャウラがガキのままのクズって言ったのは正しかったわ普通くん+10
Arachnophobic-
A little strange that Shaula recognized/remembered him but he doesn't know who Shaula is.
Or maybe that's just the way he always addresses her. Which would.. almost explain her reaction and distaste.
ふむ…我が師シャウラが昂を覚えているのに、昂が彼女を知らぬとは、奇妙な因果が渦巻いておるな。あるいは、それが彼の常なる呼び方ゆえか。ならば彼女の反応と嫌悪も、運命の皮肉として腑に落ちるのだ。中二病+78
Aliensinnoh
I’d guess this is a snapshot of him at a specific point in time, maybe before he met Shaula?
確かに、スバルが覚えてないのにシャウラは知ってるってのは不思議だよね。時間軸的にスバルがシャウラに会う前の一瞬を切り取ったって可能性もあるかもな。普通くん+92
khriku
last episode it was stated that Reid was a normal human and he died of old age, so I agree with you, Snapshot of his past self at his prime... Which isn't great now that I think about it... They took a snapshot of the strongest dude 400 years ago and left it there to defend the tower... this is gonna suck
ワイも同意や。前回の話でライトは普通の人間で老衰で死んだって言われてたしな。
つまり過去の全盛期のライトのスナップショットってことやろ…考えたらヤバすぎンゴwww
400年前の最強の男をそのまま切り取って塔の守りに置いてったってことやん…これ絶対やばい展開になるやろ草2ちゃん+19
LunarGhost00
Maybe this isn't actually Reid, but a reconstruction of his personality without the memories? I'm pretty sure he was human, so there's no way he'd be here interacting with people in the present unless his soul was trapped in this tower or something. I'm betting that this is just a version of him that exists for this exam.
Or maybe he's still drunk.
確かに、シャウラがスバルを覚えてるのにスバルは知らないって変だよね。もしかしてこれ、本人じゃなくて人格だけ再現されてるパターンじゃない?元は人間だし、魂が塔に閉じ込められてない限り現代で会話できるわけないし。試験用に作られたレイドって感じがするな。
それかまだ酔っぱらってるだけかもだけど。普通くん+43
Arachnophobic-
That makes a lot of sense.
Would be funny if they fail the test, and Reid gets reset every time they try again
確かにそれめっちゃ納得いくわ!
もし試験に失敗するたびにラインハルトがリセットされるってオチだったら笑えるけどなw感情くん+16
flashmozzg
> without the memories?
He definitely has at least some memories. To know who he is and about his followers.
記憶なくても本人の性格再現ならあり得そうだよなw
少なくとも自分のこととか部下のこと覚えてるっぽいしな笑wwwおじ+14
PeaceAlien
Wuss is going to clear stick swinger
わかる~!「Wuss」って言われてる奴が棍棒使い倒すって展開やばくね?笑 まじで楽しみすぎるんだけど!ギャル+45
bedsheetsniffer
Especially funny ‘cuz Subaru’s one of the very few beings capable of defeating someone like him
確かに、スバルこそが奴を打ち倒す数少ない運命の宿命者なのだ。我が目に映るその戦いは、まさに因果の歯車が噛み合う瞬間よ。中二病+11
Eunuchest
How the hell is Emilia not a Sexy Chick with her outfit?
エミリアの衣装見てSexy Chickじゃないってマジで言ってんの?草2ちゃん+39
CitronClassic672
He did have to clarify her as a “*really* hot chick”
確かにエミリアの衣装はめっちゃセクシーだけど、本人は純粋だからギャップがすごいよね普通くん+67
Solomon_Black
Not showing enough skin. Shaula is practically naked
確かに!シャウラの露出やばすぎじゃん!エミリアは清楚系でかわいいけど、アレはアレで正統派って感じ〜笑ギャル+45
khriku
"Ero onna da"
「エロ女だなw まあそれでいいんだけど笑」wwwおじ+8
LakerBlue
Maybe as simple as he considers Shaula showing skin to be another tier of sexy even above Emilia’s form fitting clothes
確かにエミリアの衣装もかなり際どいけど、シャウラの露出度は別格だよね。普通くん+10
Frontier246
True Man of Culture and not Loli's confirmed.
それな!まじでわかるわ~笑 文化人じゃん!ギャル+26
GSNadav
anastasia beating the loli allegations
アナスタシアがロリ疑惑を打ち破ってて笑った普通くん+29
ClemFire
She is just a short woman
【返信】
せやな、アナスタシアはただのチビやんw ロリ疑惑はガセやでwww2ちゃん+22
CitronClassic672
New art style did wonders for her, and have you seen those thighs?!
確かに新作画いいよね。あの太もも見た?やばいな。普通くん+20
OldInstruction5368
Wait... wot?
People considered Anastasia a loli before?
She runs her own merchant company, has a mercenary troupe on retainer, and was a shrewd and ruthless negotiator. While she has a cutesy way of talking, she never came across as a kid.
And double checking, Anastasia's official age at the start of the series was 22. She's several years older than Sub's and has always acted the part.
は?ちょっと待って
アナスタシアがロリって言われてたの?
自分で商会やって、傭兵団抱えてて、狡猾で容赦ない交渉人やぞ
喋り方は可愛いけど、子供っぽくはないやろ
つーかアナスタシアの年齢、作中開始時点で22歳やし
スバルより数歳上で、ずっとその年相応に振る舞っとるわ2ちゃん+18
NecronLord_Europe
Look up the scenes in S1 with Ana. She looked waaaay younger with that style compared to S3+.
確かにアナスタシア、S1の頃はめっちゃ幼く見えたよね。あのスタイルだと今のS3以降と比べると全然違うわ。普通くん+11
HurricaneHomer9
Genuinely made me laugh so hard
まあ確かに、あのキャラ構成は笑えるよな。悪くない。ドライおじ+21
BSModder
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure he was saying "Nope" instead of "Brat" in JP
「Nope」って言ってたんじゃないかな?「Brat」じゃなくて。間違ってたら教えてほしい。普通くん+18
danko1667
He says "jari", which literally means "pebble" but can also be used to mean "child, rugrat, ankle-biter".
「jari」は直訳だと「砂利」だけど、子供やガキを指す言葉でもある。間違ってないな。ドライおじ+59
BSModder
Interesting, I never heard that expression before.
Usually it's either "gaki" or "kosou" and sometimes "chibi"
へえ、その表現は初めて聞いたな。
普通は「ガキ」か「小僧」、たまに「チビ」って言うのが多いよね。普通くん+12
mekerpan
\>> jari
presumably related to Jarinko Chie (Takahata's film and series) -- usually translated Chie the Brat.
それな!「jari」って「ガキンチョ」って意味だよね。『じゃりン子チエ』(高畑勲の映画とシリーズ)を連想したわ。あれって「Chie the Brat」って訳されてるし、まさにそのニュアンス!感情くん+8
CitronClassic672
He said what we were all thinking.
それな!まじで言うことズバリすぎじゃん笑ギャル+13
joe4553
Rudeus hasn't changed.
それな。ルーデウス、成長したようで変わってないな。感情くん+8
Hitman7128
Shaula blows a kiss across the library to Subaru
\-> Subaru smacks it
やばくね!?シャウラが図書館越しにスバルに投げキッスして、それスバルが叩き落とすのwwww まじでこのコンビ可愛すぎるじゃん!笑ギャル+609
ChicaneryFinger
Emilia is a lucky girl
エミリアは幸せ者だね普通くん+331
Frontier246
She's really been acting a lot like Subaru's girlfriend/wife this season and you love to see it.
せやな、今期のエミリアはガチでスバルの彼女感・嫁感がすごいンゴwww 見ててほっこりするわ〜2ちゃん+291
AceSoldia
It's been great development ever since season 2 and that trial
S2の試練以来の成長が本当に良いよね。今期のエミリアはまさに彼女って感じで見てて安心する。普通くん+173
kicksFR
Also Subaru protecting her wife from a guy hitting on her at the end. I love them.
確かに!今期のエミリア、完全にスバルの彼女/嫁って感じで最高すぎるッ!
あと最後にナンパしてきた奴からエミリアを守るスバルも良すぎる。このカップル優勝!感情くん+73
CitronClassic672
I love them really highlighting her adorable childlike innocence about things like promises and calling Flugel a “not very honest person”, as well as her dorkiness is trying to brute force the previous trial. It all makes her surprisingly much more endearing as a character.
確かに。今期のエミリア、プロミスの話とかフリューゲルを「不誠実な人」って呼ぶところとか、純粋な子供っぽさがよく出てて良いよね。前の試練を力技で突破しようとするドジっ子感も含めて、めちゃくちゃ魅力的になってると思う。普通くん+29
mediumwhite
Isn't she pregnant with his child from S2 anyway? 😛
それな!S2からずっとスバルの彼女感やばいよね〜笑
妊娠ネタは冗談にしても、今期の二人の距離感まじ尊すぎじゃん!?ギャル+10
ClemFire
Subaru is such a wife guy you love to see it
確かに!スバルはもう完全にエミリアのものだし、それを見てるこっちがニヤけるわ。最高すぎるッ!感情くん+11
shad79
I feel pretty bad about Shaula. She shows Subaru so much love, and yet he brutally rejects her every time in this episode.
By the way, Shaula's behavior really reminds me of a dog.
シャウラにはガチで同情するわ…
あんなにスバルに愛情ぶつけてるのに毎回バッサリ拒否られてて草
つかシャウラの行動ワンちゃんっぽくてかわいいンゴねぇ…2ちゃん+177
SkyLETV
I mean, we have Emilia, the wife, and Rem, the maid. Who says she can't be the dog of the family?
わかる…!シャウラの健気さがエモすぎて泣いた
でもスバルがエミリア(嫁)とレム(メイド)いるしな…
「じゃあ犬枠でよくね?」って発想、普通にアリだと思うッ!感情くん+129
2kenzhe
we already have a ground dragon but I guess another pet wouldn't hurt?
地上竜はもういるけど、もう一匹ペットがいても悪くないんじゃない?普通くん+73
garfe
Don't forgot the baby, Beako
忘れるなよ、ベア子っていう赤ちゃんもいるんだぞッ!感情くん+15
Hot-Log6283
>By the way, Shaula's behavior really reminds me of a dog.
That's Delta (The Eminence in Shadow) VA for you.
>>ついでに言うとシャウラの行動ってマジで犬っぽいよな
Delta(陰の実力者)の声優がやってるだけあるわ2ちゃん+10
Roskal
Subaru isn't entertaining any other love interests than Emilia.
スバルはエミリア以外の恋愛対象は一切受け付けないスタンスだね普通くん+68
AceSoldia
I'm sure he's gonna entertain Rem when she returns..maybe.. hopefully
それな。でもレムが戻ってきたらスバルも揺れるんじゃないかな…たぶん…願望込みでッ!感情くん+33
BosuW
Who?
誰のこと?普通くん+21
Roskal
Emilia won't be happy about that.
エミリアがブチ切れるやろなw
でもそれ見てみたいンゴwww2ちゃん+19
Frontier246
She can hit him with her needles, but not with her love!
シャウラは針で攻撃できるのに、愛は伝わらないんだな(笑)普通くん+57
Mundology
Fortunately Shaula has low cortisol levels
それな!シャウラまじでストレス知らずすぎて羨ましいんだけど笑ギャル+28
Arachnophobic-
After rebuffing prime best girl material in Rem with a "I love Emilia", Shaula is practically small fry
「エミリアが好き」って言ってレムを振ったスバルからしたら、シャウラなんて可愛いもんだよね普通くん+58
AceSoldia
Lol Shaula tries to hard Subaru needs those hard to get girls
わかるw シャウラ必死すぎるッ!でもスバルは「エミリア」って言っちゃったからな…手に入りにくい子じゃないとダメなんだよなw感情くん+25
CitronClassic672
Rem is “the number 2 in Subaru’s heart”. Shaula ain’t even the number 2 girl in that library, in Subaru’s eyes.
確かに。レムは「スバルの心の中で2番目」って位置づけだし、シャウラはその図書館の中でも2番目にすら入ってないんじゃないかな。普通くん+19
BosuW
Ei 🫸💥💓
えっ、シャウラが投げキッスしてスバルが叩き落とすの!?やばくね!?笑 てかその流れ、まじでカップル感あってかわよすぎるじゃん!🫸💥💓ギャル+25
yjggy
So Subaru is a parry build enjoyer. Naruhodo.
なるほど、スバルはパリィビルド好きってわけか。普通くん+18
mastereluder6
I would fold within a second by the way
確かに俺も秒で倒れるわ。シャウラの投げキッスをスバルが叩き落とすの、無理すぎて泣いた。感情くん+6
foxfoxal
Two times and still funny
二度見ても笑えるわ普通くん+5
Return_By_Cringe
Love how typhon's backstory shows how twisted her view of morality is and why she would be so terrifying to the general public.
If you hold even slight guilt for any past words or actions you're cooked
テュフォンの過去話、彼女の道徳観がどれだけ歪んでるか如実に描かれてて良かったよな。一般人から見たら本当に恐ろしい存在だっていうのが伝わってくる。
過去の言動に少しでも罪悪感を抱いてる時点で詰むって、この設定は徹底してる。作者が意図的に「善悪の絶対化」の危うさを表現してると考察できる。考察くん+572
actionfirst1
One thing I love about the Witches is that their reputation doesn't seem to be based off of the destruction they can cause directly. Typhon never intended to kill anyone yet the general public isn't going to understand that. No wonder they'd be considered witches if their power is this dangerous
確かに。魔女たちの怖さって直接的な破壊力じゃなくて、その力の性質自体にあるんだよね。タイフォンは殺すつもりなくても一般人には理解できないし、そういう危険な力だからこそ魔女扱いされるのも納得だわ。普通くん+328
Frontier246
Imagine this sweet little Misaki Kuno girl just strolls into town and casually asking people if they did a bad thing and killing probably everyone in that town while looking as blissfully innocent about it.
She probably thinks she's making her daddy proud!
確かに。久野美咲さんのあの可愛らしい声で、無邪気に「悪いことした?」って聞きながら街中を虐殺する姿を想像すると、逆に背筋が凍るな。彼女の中では完全に「お父様を喜ばせてる」って認識なんだろうな。このギャップこそが魔女たちの恐ろしさを際立たせているという考察ができる。考察くん+231
actionfirst1
Dad's pretty choked up about it, I mean he's falling to pieces
確かに、あの久野美咲の可愛い声で「悪いことした?」って聞かれたら誰でも泣いちゃうよね。父親が崩れ落ちる気持ちわかるわ。普通くん+190
Shantotto11
\>Misaki Kuno girl
That voice did more than a mere Paralyze Echo should…
Also,…
# DOUX-SAMA?!!!
>久野美咲のあの声…
ただの麻痺エコーなんかじゃ済まない声だった…
それに…
# ドゥース様?!感情くん+51
LakerBlue
I find it so fascinating her takeaway from her dad forgiving her was that anyone who feels guilty will be punished.
I understand her killing them is unconscious but you’d think her power would offer a chance for the same mercy she got.
せやな、父親に許してもらったのに「罪悪感あるやつは罰せられる」って解釈しちゃうのガチで興味深いわ
無意識に殺しちゃうのは分かるけど、自分の権能で同じ慈悲与えるチャンスあっても良さそうやん2ちゃん+29
baseballlover723
> but you’d think her power would offer a chance for the same mercy she got.
Or I wonder if the angle is that she thought her dad should have punished her, so now she's punishing everyone else (as she would have wanted). Feels quite dubious to me. I think if that were the case, it would be more painful and less fatal.
確かに、彼女の能力が同じ慈悲を与える機会になるはず、という視点は興味深い。
ただ、別の角度として、彼女は父親に罰せられるべきだったと感じていたから、今度は自分が他人を罰している(自分が望んだ方法で)という解釈もできる。個人的にはかなり疑わしいが。もしそうなら、もっと苦痛で致死的ではない方法になるはずだと思う。考察くん+18
Eunuchest
I dont know about that, i think people could care less about the intentions if someone was wreaking havoc and casually committing massacres like that.
確かに、意図がどうあれあれだけ大混乱起こして虐殺してたら、普通の人からすればそんなの関係ないって思うよね。普通くん+16
morayl
The most horrifying part of Typhon's power is that you *don't die*. In season 2 Subaru remains fully conscious even as his body is broken into pieces. Imagine being stuck like that forever, unable to die.
ティフォンの能力の最も恐ろしい点は「死ねない」ことにあるという考察ができるな。2期でスバルが身体を粉々にされても完全に意識を保っていた描写を踏まえると、永遠にその状態に閉じ込められる恐怖が浮き彫りになる。死に戻りとはまた別ベクトルの拷問だよな。考察くん+14
fttxdd666
I wonder if that was just because he was in the Castle of Dreams that Echidna controls. Since she created it, I'd assume if she doesn't want him to die he won't be able to unless she allows it.
確かに!それエキドナの夢の城の中だったからじゃね?笑 あそこ彼女が作った世界だし、死にたくなかったら死ねないって感じだよね〜ギャル+24
kalirion
What does how much destruction she can cause directly have anything to do with her intentions? And she very much does intend to kill people - she want to kill everyone who "sinned". And she can cause a great amount of destruction, as seen in her flashback. A single question directed to a mass of people and they all literally fall to bits.
確かに。破壊力と意図は別問題だよね。彼女は「罪を犯した者」を全員殺そうとしてるし、フラッシュバックで見せたように、一つの質問で大量の人間がバラバラになるレベルの破壊力もある。意図も手段もヤバいってことだな。普通くん+13
matbot55
Yeah, like we saw at the tea party, the witches are just fundamentally different from normal people in their views. They are not necessarily evil, but they're still incompatible with normalcy.
せやな、茶会で見せた通り魔女たちは根本的に一般人と価値観が違いすぎるンゴ。別に悪ってわけじゃないけど、普通とは相容れないっちゅうか。草2ちゃん+187
Mundology
Described that way, they seem like human SCPs
そう言われると、人間版SCPみたいだね普通くん+99
kalirion
I'm not too sure about the human bit.
わかるけど「人間」ってところはちょっと微妙かも……ッ!感情くん+16
Blacksmithkin
Insane but rational is how I tend to put it myself.
狂ってるけど理屈は通ってるって感じだよね。その表現が一番しっくりくるわ。普通くん+21
somersault_dolphin
How is applying dichotomy where it's not one rational? That's literally a kind of fallacy.
それな!でも二分法を無理に当てはめるのって理性的じゃなくね?まじで論理的誤謬じゃん笑ギャル+11
RedRocket4000
原文
More natural evil not deliberately evil. Natural evil's include natural disasters. Fun and confusion of language. So if someone calls her evil they are not incorrect just not using the defintion your are.
I agree totally on your point and many simple evil characters in fiction really did not have a choice in being insane killers. Demon's in Fririen are natural evils they can't chose good nor are they an organic life form.
確かに、自然災害みたいな悪って感じだよね。わざと悪意を持ってるわけじゃなくて、結果的にそうなってるっていうか。言葉の定義の問題って部分も同意。フリーレンの魔族もまさにそれで、善悪の選択ができない存在って描かれてるし。普通くん+10
ClemFire
They still seem more human than the demons in Frieren
せやな、魔女連中は普通の人間とは根本的に価値観が違いすぎるわな。でもフリーレンの魔族と比べたらまだ人間味あるやん2ちゃん+7
RedRocket4000
Of course Demons in Frieren are not even physical life forms and are not organic life forms. And they are incomplete missing a lot of emotions an actual person has.
確かに。フリーレンの魔族は物理的な生命体ですらないし、感情も欠落してるからな。普通くん+10
Human_Potato2264
>Love how typhon's backstory shows how twisted her view of morality is and why she would be so terrifying to the general public
In a sense she is an argument against conscience itself
それな!ティフォンの過去編やばくね?笑 自分の道徳観が完全に歪んでる感じがまじで怖いんだよな~一般人からしたらホントにやばい存在だわギャル+127
Return_By_Cringe
-gets hard countered by narcissism
確かに、ナルシシズムには完全にカウンターされるってのが皮肉だね普通くん+147
Human_Potato2264
I wonder how would Typhon and Regulus encounter would go. Albeit he has his authority to never change does he feel regret about anything? Maybe not being able to make his wives smile?
それな。テュフォンとレグルスの遭遇見てみたいわ。レグルスは権能で絶対変わらんけど、後悔とかってあるんかね?ワイが思うに、奥さんたち笑顔にできなかったこととかちゃう?2ちゃん+91
jacker1154
原文
Narcissim ain't gonna work. Her power do work and it pretty cruel toward anyone who is a real sinner and doesn't respect or accept that they are one.
Subaru was broken back in season 2 but felt no pain because he is not a real sinner but think he deserve it which he then received a high praise and gain support from Typhon herself. The only thing I think is not work is to the people who doesn't understand concept of evil like demon from Frieren.
確かに自己愛(ナルシシズム)は通用しないな。ティフォンの権能は実際に罪を自覚せず認めない真の罪人に対しては極めて残酷に機能するんだよな。
スバルが2期で精神的に追い詰められた時も痛みを感じなかったのは、彼が真の罪人ではなく「自分が罰を受けるべきだ」と思い込んでいたからだ。その姿勢がティフォンから高評価を得て支援を受ける結果になったという考察ができる。
ただ、この権能が効かない相手もいると思う。例えば『葬送のフリーレン』の魔族のように、「悪」という概念自体を理解していない存在には通用しないんじゃないか。考察くん+52
Frontier246
Typhon: "Did you do a bad thing?"
"Well, I may or may not have stolen a cokie from the cookie jar--"
(Breaks into pieces)
「ティフォンの『悪いことした?』って問いかけ、めっちゃ怖すぎるッ!クッキー盗んだくらいでバラバラにされるの無理…優勝だわこの歪んだ正義感」感情くん+56
BosuW
DEATH SENTENCE
「え、これマジで死刑宣告じゃね?笑」
「クッキー盗んだだけでこんな展開になるのやばすぎん?!」ギャル+23
kicksFR
Idk why I had the idea that witches were born witches with no backstory. Now I’m really invested in how they got their powers
それな!まじで「魔女は最初から魔女」って勝手に思い込んでたわ。でもタイフォンの過去編見て「え、そういうことなの!?」ってなった。彼女の歪んだ正義感、怖すぎるしエモすぎるッ!能力の出自が気になりすぎてしんどい。感情くん+49
lolzee9x
its established that people in this world are born with innate passive permabuffs, from reinhard to meili, from what i see witch factor is just one of these permabuffs that are so broken in a scary/dangerous way that people call them differently out of fear
確かに。この世界における「天性の常時発動バフ」という概念は面白い考察ポイントだな。ラインハルトからメィリィまで、生まれつきの能力を持つキャラは多い。魔女因子も本来はそうしたバフの一種だが、その危険性ゆえに人々が畏怖を込めて別格扱いしている、というのが筋の通った解釈だと思う。考察くん+27
kicksFR
I like this explanation, but what is the reason this particular buffs (witch factors) can be passed down ?
確かに、その説明は納得できるんだけど、なんで魔女因子だけは継承可能なんだろうね?普通くん+5
LakerBlue
I didn’t think witches were necessarily born witches but I definitely didn’t think their powers just randomly manifested either. Where did that Authority come from??
せやな、ワイも魔女は生まれつきやと思ってたわ。でも権能が突然出てきたわけでもないんか…あれってどこから来てるンゴ?ワイも気になってきたわ。2ちゃん+6
Kuro_6320
Perhaps the previous owner died nearby and the witch factor said, "Yes, this girl who thinks she can judge everyone seems arrogant enough." Perhaps she already had the witch factor for a long time and the authority had not yet developed because Typhon did not yet understand sin.
確かに。魔女因子が近くにいた前の持ち主から移ったとか、タイフォンが罪を理解してなかったから権能が発現しなかったって可能性もあるよね。普通くん+14
foxfoxal
And there is no Minerva to put you together if you are innocent but feel guilty lol
「確かに!無実でも罪悪感感じたら即死とか笑えないし、ミネルヴァがいないのが絶望すぎるッ!!」感情くん+39
Eunuchest
Terrifying for the general populace. Completely useless to psychopaths like a certain Ano-sa
せやな。一般人からしたらガチで恐怖やわ。でもあのアノサみたいなサイコパスには完全に無効ってのが草生えるンゴwww2ちゃん+22
WeTheSalty
Lets the worst people get away with things too. Crimes are self judged. No guilt no punishment. People like regulus would be immune to her.
確かに…罪を自分で認めないやつには無効ってのがヤバすぎる。レグルスみたいな自己正当化モンスターには効かないってことか。しんどいなこの設定感情くん+11
SmthPositive_
No Opening or Ending? This is MY Re:ZERO
OPもEDもなし?これこそ俺の知ってるRe:ゼロだな普通くん+423
lupoin5
I did not even notice until you mentioned it, I was so absorbed in this episode.
確かに!言われて気づいたけど、そんなの関係ないくらい没頭してたわ。この回が凄すぎてOPもEDもぶっ飛んだ!感情くん+103
SmthPositive_
Also a lot of eerie background noise with no OST. As a Novel reader that’s exactly what I hoped for
せやな、気づかんかったわ。ワイもこの話に没頭しとった。
BGMなしの不気味な背景音も良かったンゴwww 原作勢としてはまさに期待通りの演出やったわ。2ちゃん+55
cjbobs
They are in a library after all, music is not allowed!
それな!図書館だしBGMなしって逆にリアルじゃん?笑 雰囲気出まくってやばくね!?ギャル+15
NoHead1715
If there's opening, there will be deaths in the episode. So it's good there's no opening.
確かに。OPあると死に戻りフラグだから、無い方がむしろ安心できるよね。普通くん+5
ChicaneryFinger
Subaru is so indescribably endearing. His anger at how bs the trial is, his conversation with Meili, running up the stairs like that with Beako, I love him so much.
スバルガチで尊すぎやろ…あの理不尽すぎる試練にブチギレてるのも、メィリィとの会話も、ベア子と階段ダッシュするところも、全部が愛おしいンゴwww ワイも大好きや2ちゃん+411
thekoreansun
原文
I think it's the fact that Subaru's got such a unique kind of camaraderie with each of his companions that solidifies just how charming he is. He teases Emilia, he plays with Beatrice, he gets eviscerated by Ram, he trades blows with Julius, and so on. Even Shaula, whom he's only known for an hour at this point, bounces off of him in a way that nobody else really has thus far. Allowing your protagonist to have so many different kinds of relationships with the other characters is a very impressive writing feat.
スバルの魅力が際立つのは、仲間一人ひとりとの関係性が独特だからだと思う。エミリアとは軽口を叩き合い、ベアトリスとはじゃれ合い、ラムにはズタズタにされ、ユリウスとは互角に渡り合う。まだ知り合って1時間のシャウラでさえ、これまでの誰とも違う掛け合いを見せている。主人公にこれほど多様な関係性を持たせるのは、非常に優れた脚本術だと言える。考察くん+353
kicksFR
The impressive part to me is how many characters with completely different personalities exist in this story. If you replace anyone in this group with another character the result is completely different. No one can fill the role of Emilia, Julius or Beako here. And the same goes for the members not present.
確かに。この作品のすごいところって、性格が全然違うキャラが何人もいるのに、誰か一人を変えただけで全部が変わっちゃうところだよね。エミリア、ユリウス、ベアトリスは代わりがきかないし、いないメンバーも同じだと思う。普通くん+193
thekoreansun
原文
> If you replace anyone in this group with another character the result is completely different.
This is absolutely true, and I think people tend to overlook just how skillfully Re:ZERO has managed its enormous cast of characters. Whereas Season 3 was a battle royale of over 30 characters, Season 4 has less than 10 in its main cast; and yet, neither feels out of place in the overarching narrative of the show. If anything, the unique character dynamics that exist between each pairing have made even Season 4's comparatively smaller cast a delight to watch.
確かにその通りだ。Re:ZEROがこれだけの大所帯を巧みに捌いている点は、見逃されがちな技術だと思う。S3が30人超のバトルロワイヤルだったのに対し、S4は主要キャラが10人未満に絞られている。しかし、どちらも物語全体の流れの中で違和感がない。むしろ、各キャラクター間のユニークな関係性が、S4の比較的少ないキャストでも見応えを生み出しているという考察ができる。考察くん+133
ShadowGuyinRealLife
It is possible to erase someone and only Subaru and the viewers know something is wrong. Rem's housework credit went to Ram and her killing to the Mabests presumably went to Subaru. The letter I think didn't get replaced since Subaru is early literate pre timeskip..
確かに。誰かが消されても違和感に気づけるのがスバルと視聴者だけってのがこの作品の怖いとこだよね。レムの家事がラムに、殺しの功績がマベスト経由でスバルに移ったって話も納得。手紙はタイムスキップ前だとスバルが文字読めるから置き換えられなかったのかな。普通くん+7
Frontier246
This is why the Emilia Camp is the most colorful and fun bunch brought together by Subaru.
まじでそれ!スバルがみんなとそれぞれ違う形で絆を築いてるからこそ、エミリア陣営がこんなにカラフルで楽しいグループになってるんだよね!やばくない?笑ギャル+80
AceSoldia
Yeah but I still miss the Astrea tag team of last season..goats
確かにエミリア陣営は賑やかでいいよね。でも前シーズンのアストレアタッグも好きだったな…あの2人はマジで神だった普通くん+46
JosebaZilarte
Indeed... It is like the author is juggling multiple objects of different shapes and sizes.
確かに!作者さん、いろんなタイプの関係性をうまくバランス取ってる感じだよね!スバルと仲間たちの絆の形がみんな違うからこそ、話が深くなるんだよな〜!ギャル+19
BallerinasGrace
The way he's always dissing Julius in a friendly kind of way haha Love this tsundere
ジュリアスへのツンデレな悪口が毎回面白いンゴwww ああいう友情混じりのディスり方が最高やわ2ちゃん+114
Frontier246
Did Meili try to kill him a few times? Yeah, but she's still this kid that he can't help but want to make feel welcome in the group and check to make sure she's doing okay and check if she has any unfinished business she wants settled in the library.
Also he knows when to listen to the wife-y (Emilia) when she scolds him.
メィリィに何度も殺されかけたけどさ、それでも彼女はまだ子供だし、グループに馴染めるように気にかけて、図書館でやり残したことないか確認してやるってのがスバルらしいよね。
あとエミリアに叱られた時はちゃんと聞く耳持つとこも好き。普通くん+86
Urgnu-the-Gnu
He also just learned Meili was, essentially, forced into this life. She never knew anything else. It's hard to have a personal grudge against her at this point.
せやな。本人も強制されてただけやしな。他に生き方知らんかったんやろ。今さら恨むのもアホらしいわ。2ちゃん+106
ScarecrowFM
It’s a reminder that Meili *is* the same age as Petra, she should have been worrying about normal child things and not how she can use her beasties to kill people.
確かに。メィリィとペトラって同い歳なんだよな。普通の子供なら学校とか友達とかで悩んでるはずなのに、魔獣で人を殺す方法しか知らなかったって考えると切なくなる。普通くん+53
ClemFire
That's why it's so sweet how Subaru offers to look for Meili's parents books if she asked him. His greatest strength has always been making connections because he is naturally empathetic and can't help himself by getting involved in other people's problems. Both him and Emilia are idealistic like that and why it's impossible for me not to root for them.
確かにスバルがメィリィに「親の本を探してやる」って言ったシーンは草生えるほど良かったわ。ワイもあそこはグッときたンゴwww
スバルの最大の強みはやっぱり共感力やな。他人の問題に首突っ込まずにはいられないクセがガチで才能になってる。
エミリアも同じく理想主義者やし、この二人を応援せずにはいられへんわ。2ちゃん+6
Arachnophobic-
It was really thoughtful of him to think about finding Meili's parents' books. I was wondering throughout where his line of questions were leading.
On a related note, I'd be curious to see what is in Elsa's book.
確かに。スバルがメィリィの両親の本を探そうと考えたのは、彼の優しさが滲み出てる場面だよな。質問の意図がどこに向かってるのか気になってたけど、あれで繋がったわ。ついでに言うと、エルザの本に何が書かれてるのかも気になるな。あのキャラの背景を考えると、重要な伏線が隠されてる可能性が高いと考察できる。考察くん+52
ScarecrowFM
We got a glimpse of Elsa’s backstory back when Garfiel was killing her so we might get more context of what was going on.
エルザの過去はガーフィールが彼女を倒した時にチラッと出てたし、今回もっと詳しい話が見られるかもね。普通くん+19
n080dy123
Yeah I fully expect her to find Elsa's book. Elsa's probably the one person whose book she'd be interested in.
確かに!エルサの本を読む流れになるのは間違いないじゃん?てかエルサってばメィリィが唯一興味持つ相手だしね〜ギャル+8
NanDemoKnaives
The running up the stairs scene gave me a nice laugh, it was definitely endearing.
階段を駆け上がるシーンは思わず笑っちゃったな。確かに愛らしかったね。普通くん+20
Markosan_DnD
Honestly, this. Despite having RBD, Subaru's greatest strength is how insanely lovable he is. Like 90% of the top tiers of the verse are his ride-or-dies for a reason. Beatrice overcame 400 years of depression from knowing Subaru for like 2 months. The entire Roswaal manor became closer because of him. Despite going through untold horrors, the guy's a massive bright spot to everyone he meets
ガチでこれな。
RBD持ってるけど、スバルの最大の武器は「愛され力」やろwww
作中の最強格の9割が彼のために死ねるって言ってるんやからな。
ベアトリスなんて400年の鬱をスバルと出会って2ヶ月で乗り越えたやん。
ロズワール邸全体がアイツのおかげで結束強まったし。
どんな地獄見ても、出会う人全員にとっての光になってるのガチで草。2ちゃん+18
ClemFire
And I think that's why he's so loved outside of universe too. He's someone I can't help but cheer "do your best" for because he is always helping everyone else out. He may be the MC of Re:Zero but in universe he feels like the ultimate support
それな。スバルは外から見ても愛される理由がわかるよ。いつも他人のために頑張ってるから、思わず「がんばれ!」って応援したくなるんだよね。Re:Zeroの主人公だけど、作中では最強のサポート役って感じがする。普通くん+15
thekoreansun
Leave it to professional librarian Beatrice to immediately deduce how this library full of dead people actually functions! I wonder if she feels disgusted by how disorganized it is; you've got to imagine that she used something similar to the Dewey Decimal System for her own collection in the Forbidden Library.
図書館のプロ・ベアトリスが即座に死者だらけの図書館の仕組み見抜くとか流石やなwww
自分の禁書庫じゃデューイ十進分類法とか使ってたんかね?このグチャグチャな配置見てドン引きしてそうwww2ちゃん+405
Frontier246
I have to wonder if there is some kind of system and they just didn't take long enough to figure it out. Like maybe it's in order of when they died? Though I feel like they would have figured that out.
確かにプロの司書ベアトリスならすぐに気づくよな。でもさ、もしかしたら死んだ順とかのシステムがあって、単に時間足りなかっただけかもしれないな。まあそれなら気づきそうだけど。普通くん+113
Human_Potato2264
Subaru found Typhon like almost immediately its def not that.
せやな、スバルはタイフォンほぼ一瞬で見つけてたしな。システムとかそういう問題ちゃうやろ。2ちゃん+149
2kenzhe
If it's in order of when they died wouldn't Typhon the witch of prides be like a lot far away or something? She was from 400 years ago while Julius found another book of someone he knew not too far away right? I wouldn't be surprised if there is some ordering / system and we just don't know about it though.
確かに。死んだ順番で並んでるならタイフォンは400年前の人物だから遠くにいるはずだよね。ユリウスが知り合いの本を近くで見つけたって話もあるし、何かしらの仕組みや順序があるんだろうな。ただまだわかってないだけで。普通くん+90
Atario
They're in order by the inverse cosine of the subject's lifetime income times height at age 10
【返信先】タイフォンが遠いって話やけど
【返信】いや、死んだ順とかちゃうで。
「生涯年収×10歳時の身長の逆余弦」順やで(適当)2ちゃん+12
Xenosaiyan7
Maybe it's based on the information people know of? Like Typhon being so close to Balleroy, who met Julius in his life time considering Julius fought him, is too weird
So the place reads people's mind and then moves the books closer? But that wouldn't explain why no one knew the first book...?
確かに、TyphonがBalleroの近くにあるっていうのは変だよね。ジュリアスが戦った相手だし、時代が違いすぎる。
もしかして、場所が人の知識に基づいて動いてるってこと?だったら最初の本の位置が誰にもわからなかった理由が説明つかないけど…普通くん+11
ParkEducational5878
原文
Could be that the newest are added on the top rather than the bottom. If the tower was built during the same time as the witches and the like, would their name/books be found earlier than later? You do build something from the ground up afterall. And adding more layers through magic, once you get the basic layer/structure of the place sorted out, could have been done to repeat the same process over and over again.
That said tho, I have no idea how magic and buildings can come into play when it comes to creating a whole building in one go. Does it even exist? From what I understand you can put spells onto things and shape elements, but a building? It seems like a dimensional (conjuring) magic may be at play with how this library may extend its repertoire.
なるほど、新しいものが上から追加されていく方式なら辻褄が合うな。塔を魔女たちと同時代に建設したと仮定すると、彼女たちの名や書物はより下層に位置するはずだ。建築物は通常基礎から積み上げるものだからな。基本構造が完成した後、魔法で層を追加していくことで同じプロセスを繰り返した可能性が考えられる。
ただ、一気に建物全体を生成する魔法が存在するのかは疑問だ。俺の理解では、物体に付与魔法をかけたり元素を操作することはできても、建築物全体を一発で創り出すのは次元召喚系の魔法が関与していると見るべきだろう。この図書館の拡張構造を踏まえると、空間魔法の応用が鍵になりそうだ。考察くん+5
Aliensinnoh
They commented that it wasn’t sorted by date.
確かに、日付順じゃないって言ってたよね。システム自体はあるかもしれないけど、単に解明する時間が足りなかっただけかもな。普通くん+10
Cant-think-a-name
Someone go grab Myne and bring her into Pleiades!
やばくね!?ベアトリスが図書館の仕組み一瞬で見抜くのまじでプロすぎじゃん笑
てかマイネをプレアデスに連れてこいって話!絶対おもしろくなるって!ギャル+103
BosuW
That'd be torture she wouldn't be able to read any of them!
それやばいわ。本読めなくなるじゃん。普通くん+72
ParkEducational5878
And have her going depressed because she can read any books that aren't related to deceased people she once knew? Unless learning about them through her past life reading counts as being familiar with someone, I don't think she'll be enjoying this place that much tbh, but I love the idea that it could literally be her dream come through if she could read it 😊
「マイーネをプレアデスに連れて行け」って草
でもあの子、知ってる人の死に関係ない本ばっか読まされたら逆に鬱になるやろな…
前世の知識で知ってる人ならセーフか?正直楽しめるかは微妙やけど
もし読めるなら彼女の夢が叶うって考えはワイも好きやで😊2ちゃん+13
SmileyTheSmile
I would guess that throughout her 400 years of employment, she had reorganized the entire archive in every order possible multiple times out of pure bordom.
それな!プロ司書ベアトリス、さすがすぎるッ!
400年の間に暇すぎて全部の並び替えパターン試したんじゃね?エモすぎて泣ける感情くん+5
MokonaModokiES
dont think so. Beako did point out that Shaula's reaction indicates that the library hasnt been opened for a long time. Likely Shaula herself has been stuck at the lower floor all the time so she probably couldnt change the order of the books
いや、違うと思うな。ベアトリスも指摘してたけど、シャウラの反応からすると図書館は長い間開かれてなかったみたいだし、シャウラ自身もずっと下の階に閉じ込められてたんだろうから、本の順番を変えるのはできなかったんじゃないかな。普通くん+7
LakerBlue
I was kinda hoping being a librarian and elite mage that she had some kinda spell that would let them at least sort the books alphabetically…but no such luck.
プロ司書のベアトリスなら魔法で本を五十音順に並べ替えるとかできるかと思ったンゴ……無理やったかwww2ちゃん+5
slicer4ever
God i wish these were 40 minute episodes. 20 mins a week just too damn short, i want more!!
本当に毎回40分あってほしいよな。週20分じゃ短すぎる、もっと見たい!!普通くん+398
FirstDagger
Pretty sure this episode was just 5 minutes.
マジでこれな。20分でも短いのに今回5分にしか感じなかったわwww もっと見せろや!!2ちゃん+178
Mundology
The show must go on
確かに、尺が短く感じたよね。でも話は進んでるし、次回に期待するしかないな。普通くん+47
Civil-Initial2942
Man, where did you watch this that you had 5 minutes? I only had one minute....
マジかよ草。お前どこで5分も見れたん?ワイのとこ1分しかなかったンゴwww2ちゃん+12
FirstDagger
By watching it five times.
確かに1分は短すぎるッ!俺は5回見直してやっと5分分の情報を飲み込んだわ…しんどすぎる感情くん+10
radilee21
At least we're getting the full use out of those 24mins! As great as the OP and ED are I'll gladly sacrifice them for even another minute of actual story.
せやな、24分フルで使っとるのは確かやけどな。OPもEDも良すぎるんやけど、ワイは1分でもいいから本編増やしてほしいンゴwww2ちゃん+141
Pure_Bread_8873
It should be illegal to make anime episodes only two minutes long
同意。2分しかないのは犯罪級だわ。もっと見せろよって感じ。普通くん+31
GroundbreakingBake2
They even cut both op and ed in classic Re:zero tradition.
せやな、20分じゃ短すぎるわwww
OPもEDもカットするの草、これぞRe:zeroって感じやな2ちゃん+24
AceSoldia
Gotta be the first Astrea right?
And wow Typhon's backstory is nuts .I hope we get them all.
それって初代アストレアのことじゃない?絶対そうじゃん!
で、タイフォンの過去エピまじやばくね!?全部見たいんだけどマジで!ギャル+327
Frontier246
I wonder if this exam is going to be one only Julius can pass as the only knight + someone who previously looked up the legend of the first Sword Saint before having to deal with the drunken brute who that legend was inspired by?
確かに、第一のアストレアのことだよね。それにタイフォンの過去編もやばかったな。全員分見られるといいね。この試験、ユリウスだけが合格できるんじゃないかな?唯一の騎士で、最初の剣聖の伝説を調べてたし、酔っぱらった乱暴者の元ネタにも対応しなきゃいけないし。普通くん+123
animdalf
原文
So I have a theory about that. The wording is "Fool who has attained the heavenly sword, earn his pardon."
The fool in question is almost certainly the first Sword Saint (if the appearence, mannerism and Schaula's reaction didn't give it away, the Stick Swinger title would - pretty sure that's how she called him in episode 4). Schaula described him as pretty much unbeatable and someone who really enjoyed bullying the weak. The exam calls him a fool.
So I think this is really not meant to be a combat challenge, it's not "defeat him" after all, it's "earn his pardon". And since he is an unbeatable bully and a fool, I think he will really want to fight you, but you are supposed to trick him in some way instead. And that sounds like an impossible obstacle for Julius, unless the character arc for him this season is going to be to drop the knight persona and learn to fight dirty or something.
それな、ワイもそう思ってたンゴ
「天剣を得た愚か者、その赦しを得よ」って文言よな
あの愚か者って初代剣聖やろ。見た目とか態度とかシャウラの反応でバレバレやし、「棒振り野郎」って呼び方もエピソード4で出てきたやつやん。シャウラ曰く「ほぼ無敵で弱者いじめるの大好き」やからな。試験で「愚か者」呼ばわりされてるあたりがミソやわ。
つまりこれ、戦闘チャレンジじゃなくて「倒す」じゃなくて「赦しを得る」が正解なんやろな。無敵のイジメっ子でバカだから、戦いたがる相手をどうやって騙すかが鍵になるわけや。ユリウスには絶対無理な課題やと思うわ。今シーズンの彼の成長が「騎士キャラ捨てて汚い手も覚える」とかなら別やけどな。2ちゃん+127
LakerBlue
I fully agree. Even if they had someone strong enough to fight him and tie or win (which they don’t), that is too simple and doesn’t match the instructions. They definitely need to win him over. But then you wonder “if it’s not combat, why the sword? Was it literally just a seal?”
同意。たとえ戦って引き分けか勝てる奴がいたとしても(いないけど)、それじゃ単純すぎて指示と合わない。やっぱり説得が必要だよな。でも「戦闘じゃないならなんで剣なんだ?単なる封印のためだったのか?」って疑問も湧く。普通くん+37
JustAWellwisher
I also wonder if the wording is suggestively deceptive. It might be that the stick swinger needs to earn the pardon of the test taker. I also wonder if the library existing on the same floor as this challenge has anything to do with it.
You might need to find the book about him in order to understand the command.
「天剣を得た愚か者が赦しを得る」という文言は、実は意図的に誤解を招く表現なんじゃないかという考察ができる。剣を振るう者が試練を受ける側の赦しを得る必要がある、という解釈も成り立つな。さらに、同じフロアに図書館が存在することも伏線だと思われる。命令を理解するには、彼に関する書物を探す必要があるのかもしれない。考察くん+7
PirateKingOmega
Julius finally gets some spotlight as the kingdoms finest library bouncer
ジュリアスがついに日の目を見たね!ルグニカ最強の図書館用心棒って感じで優勝すぎるッ!感情くん+5
genasugelan
Yeah, I think so as well. He's got red hair and he called it a heavenly sword. If so, he must be busted as fuck.
同意。俺もそう思う。赤髪で天の剣って言ってたしな。もしそうならめっちゃ強そうだよな。普通くん+11
Shack691
He shares a lot of the negative traits of Reinhard’s family members, he also has the red hair and Shaula seems to know him. All clues point to him being an Asterea.
まじでそれな!ラインハルトの一族のネガティブな特徴めっちゃ共有してるし、赤髪だし、シャウラも知ってるっぽいし。全部のヒントがアステレア家って示してるじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル+24
ShinJiwon
The ending credits says Reid: Sugita Tomokazu. His voice is easy to recognize.
エンディングのクレジット見て「Reid: 杉田智和」って出てて草
声聞けばすぐ分かるわwww ガチで杉田やん2ちゃん+13
Hot-Log6283
Called himself "stick swinger" which was what Schaula used when referring to the first sword saint.
自分で「棒振り回し野郎」って言ってたな、シャウラが初代剣聖のこと呼ぶときの言い方だよ普通くん+9
Critical_Can1106
Hair
髪やばない?www2ちゃん+7
Hot-Log6283
It's not unheard of for people like nobility to change their name from birth once they become noble, heck you get that these days with movie stars.
確かに!貴族とかが改名するのはよくある話だし、現代でも芸能人が変名使うしな。納得すぎるッ!感情くん+8
ModieOfTheEast
原文
I mean, Red hair and Blue eyes together with a connection to a sword? And Shaula's reaction? That is a sword saint and I just forgot what the name was they mentioned last week. How he got there? I have no idea though. Like sealed because he couldn't be beaten?
The library was interesting. Especially since we basically saw the birth of the Witch of Pride. Which begs the question how they are truly born in the first place. As there wasn't anything special about her before she started judging over people. So did the power choose her then or was she still born with that power and just had to awaken it?
Also, if a 5th rule does not exist yet, can Subaru add one if Shaula thinks he is her master?
赤髪に青い眼で剣に関係してるって…それって剣聖だよな。確か先週名前出てたけど忘れたわ。どうやってあそこにいるんだろう?倒せないから封印されたとか?
図書館のシーンは面白かったね。傲慢の魔女の誕生を実際に見れた感じだし。そもそも魔女ってどうやって生まれるんだろうな。あの子も人を裁き始める前は特別な存在じゃなかったみたいだし。力が彼女を選んだのか、それとも元々持ってて覚醒しただけなのか。
あと、もし第5のルールがまだ存在しないなら、シャウラがスバルを師匠だと思ってるんだから、スバルが新しいルールを追加できるんじゃない?普通くん+277
Arachnophobic-
>That is a sword saint and I just forgot what the name was they mentioned last week
It was Reid, if I recall correctly
それな!赤髪×青い目×剣の繋がりって完全に剣聖じゃん!シャウラの反見て確信したわ。しかも名前、確かリードだよ!先週言ってたやつ!エモすぎるッ!感情くん+157
croninhos2
Funny thing how Theresia and Reinhard seem so "noble" and proper but the most similar to Reid might be the drunkard failure Heinkel lol
そういえばテレシアとラインハルトってすごく「高貴」で堅苦しい感じなのに、一番リードに似てるのってダメ人間の酒飲みハインケルなのが笑えるな普通くん+159
LunarGhost00
Julius just had a heart attack reading this comment.
ジュリウスこれ読んで心臓発起しそうじゃね!?笑ギャル+101
CitronClassic672
I mean from what we’ve been told Reid was so inhumanly powerful nothing but old age could kill him. It makes sense he’d have the personality of someone who just has no chill and doesn’t give a shit. Oh you’re offended? What’re you gonna do about it?
確かに興味深い考察だ。レイドの圧倒的な強さを踏まえると、彼の「無頓着でどうでもいいや」という性格は、逆説的に彼の人間離れした力の裏返しとも言える。弱者に配慮する必要が全くないからこそ、ああいう態度が成立しているという解釈ができる。テレシアやラインハルトの「高貴さ」は、むしろ力を制御するための意識的な選択であって、レイドはその対極にある存在として描かれているのかもしれない。考察くん+52
ClemFire
Theresia was a reluctant hero and her story is honestly so sad to me.
テレシアは渋々英雄になった感じで、その物語は正直めっちゃ切ないんだよね普通くん+8
SmileyTheSmile
The Legend of Shadows.
あーそれ!先週言ってた剣聖ってレイドのことじゃね?
影の伝説ってやつだよ!ギャル+8
lordposedyon
Red hair, immediately recognized by the knight there, probably a dick, man is an Asteria all right
赤髪で騎士に即バレって、多分アレやな、ディック野郎だわ。やっぱアステリアやんけ。2ちゃん+111
ModieOfTheEast
I noticed afterwards, he even has a problem with alcohol. Though, I guess that only fits for Reimhard's father.
あとで気づいたけど、酒にも問題ありそうだよね。まあ、ラインハルトの父親なら納得か。普通くん+56
ChicaneryFinger
>Also, if a 5th rule does not exist yet, can Subaru add one if Shaula thinks he is her master?
Rule Number 5: Any hearts sent to Master must come from silver-haired half-elves
【シャウラへのリプ】
てかさ、もし第5のルールまだないなら、スバルが「お師様って呼ばれてるならルール追加できるんじゃね?」って話じゃん?
ルールその5: 「お師様にハートを送っていいのは銀髪ハーフエルフだけ」ってやつ笑ギャル+67
carcatta
"half-elves"
Good clause to counter Frieren's ultimate move.
「ハーフエルフ」って条項、フリーレンの奥の手対策に効きそうだね普通くん+28
Roskal
If Subaru ever entertains Shaula's love she instantly kills him.
もしスバルがシャウラの愛を受け入れたら、即殺されるルール追加しろwww それな!シャウラの「お師様」愛ヤバすぎてむしろ正気に戻ったほうがいいレベル感情くん+23
ClemFire
That one must've been put in place by the future Emilia
それは未来のエミリアが仕込んだやつだな普通くん+8
Blazin_Rathalos
> Also, if a 5th rule does not exist yet, can Subaru add one if Shaula thinks he is her master?
From what Foxidna said, I am going to guess there *is* a 5th rule, but she can't tell what it is. (would that mean there's technically 6 rules?)
**>>5つ目のルールがまだないなら、スバルが追加できるんじゃね?シャウラが師匠って認めてるしな**
Foxidnaの言い方からすると、多分**5つ目のルールは存在する**けど、本人も内容を言えない感じやな(ってことは実質6つあるってこと?)2ちゃん+35
Social_Knight
5th rule is a Fight Club Rule, can't talk about it.
5つ目のルールはファイトクラブのルールだから、話しちゃいけないんだよ。普通くん+12
Mysterious-Book2146
My guess is she was made to forget what the rule was until the conditions for it are met. That would explain why she said there were five, said there was no fifth, and promised she wasn't lying.
それな!おそらく「条件が揃うまでルールを忘れさせられてた」説だよね。だから「5つある」って言ったのに「5番目はない」って言って、しかも嘘じゃないって約束したんだ……エモすぎるし深いなこれッ!感情くん+9
DoggedStooge
> So did the power choose her then or was she still born with that power and just had to awaken it?
IIRC, divine protections can be bestowed at any point. Some may be given at birth, but some are given at random times. Like, the current sword saint gets new divine protections whenever he needs them.
確かに、能力が彼女を選んだのか、それとも元々持ってて覚醒しただけなのか気になるよな。
確か加護っていつでも授けられるんだよね。生まれつきのもあれば、ランダムなタイミングで与えられるのもある。今の剣聖も必要な時に新しい加護を得てるし。普通くん+29
Human_Potato2264
Witches and archbishops use authorities and witch factors not divine protections.
それな!魔女や大罪司教が使ってるのは加護じゃなくて「権能」と「魔女因子」だよ〜。まじでややこしいけどそこ大事じゃん?ギャル+50
ModieOfTheEast
If I remember correctly, the witch factors can be "taken" by beating the current holder. Like how Subaru got the sloth witch factor after defeating Betelgeuse (and maybe also Regulus, still not sure about that). But Typhon seemingly didn't defeat anyone and just awakened that power.
そうだね、確かに魔女因子は保持者を倒せば奪える仕組みだと思う。スバルがペテルギウス倒して怠惰の魔女因子手に入れたのと同じ感じだし(レグルスもたぶんそう)。でもタイフォンは誰も倒してないのに突然覚醒してたから、そこは謎だよね。普通くん+29
JosebaZilarte
> Like, the current sword saint gets new divine protections whenever he needs them.
I know it is part of the fun, but it is interesting how the author can turn a bad writing practice into something meaningful.
> 現剣聖は必要な時に新しい加護がポンポン追加されるんだよな
確かにそれはご都合展開の一種やけど、作者がそれを逆手にとってちゃんと意味のある設定に落とし込んでるのが面白いわ。悪い書き方になりかねないものを上手く料理してるンゴねえ。2ちゃん+12
CitronClassic672
Pretty sure Reinhard is supposed to intentionally be a parody of the overpowered MC trope. Also, it’s usually only a bad writing practice when it’s the MC, villains and in this case side characters get a lot more leeway for busted abilities.
確かにラインハルトは最強主人公パロディ的な存在だと思う。でも、それが主人公じゃなくて脇役だから許されてる感じはあるよね。悪役やサイドキャラのチート能力はむしろ面白さの一部だし。普通くん+11
Eboglaz
reinhardt is the only exception of the rule.
それな!ラインハルトはマジで例外すぎる。感情くん+6
Cheesemacher
They did say the sword saint died of old age. I assume this is like the graveyard where long dead people can exist for some reason for the sake of a trial.
せやな。剣聖は老衰で死んだって言われてたしな。この塔は死者が試練のために存在できる墓地みたいなもんやろ。シャウラの反応見る限りガチで剣聖本人やな。草2ちゃん+6
Monarki
原文
Replying to your first paragraph: We know Reid died of old age. Also Flugel, who for some reason was known was Shaula the Sage, who built this whole Tower, was friends/partners with Reid and Volcanica (Holy Dragon). We know this because the three of them were are historical highly esteemed individuals that existed at the same time. Shaula is very familiar with the personalities of Reid and Volcanica and even said she's know them for many years. So Flugel after setting up the tower probably asked the 3 best people he knew to protect it. Shaula took his place as the guardian before Test 1. Reid is the Test 2 admin (and due to the magic displayed he probably summons Reid from whatever afterlife) and Volcanica is probably Test 3 admin either living or afterlife spirit form
まず一つ目について:ライドは老衰で死んだってわかってるんだよね。それとフリューゲル(何故か賢者シャウラとして知られてた人物)がこの塔を建てて、ライドやヴォルカニカ(聖龍)と仲間だったんだ。この3人は同時代に存在した歴史的に高名な存在だからね。シャウラはライドとヴォルカニカの性格をよく知ってて、何年も知ってるって言ってたし。つまりフリューゲルは塔を作った後、知ってる最強の3人に守らせたんだと思う。シャウラは第一試験の守護者になり、ライドは第二試験担当(あの魔法を見る限り、死後の世界から召喚してるっぽい)、ヴォルカニカは第三試験担当で生きてるか霊体のどっちかって感じだね。普通くん+6
Named_after_color
It's interesting that she developed her power in the same way the teacup shattered. Like she was praised for confessing her guilt by her executioner father, and she was like. "Oh, I get it. Guilt means death!" And just applied that life lesson to everyone else.
確かに。彼女の能力が発現したタイミングと茶碗が割れた瞬間が一致している点が興味深い。つまり、父親である処刑人から「罪を認める=死」という教えを称賛され、それを「罪を犯した者全員に適用すべき」という歪んだ正義に昇華させたという考察ができる。シャウラの反応からして、この剣聖の血筋に関わる伏線だと思われる。考察くん+6
markhc
Judging by the sake flask by his waist, I think he might always be drunk.
腰の酒瓶見る限り、こいつ常に酔っぱらってるんじゃね?草2ちゃん+13
ModieOfTheEast
Test might just be to give him some alcohol.
試練ってただ酒飲ませることなんじゃねえの普通くん+7
deynyel
So basically, break any rule = get murdered by Shaula. I am curious tho, if she's strong enough to handle Subaru and friends all on her own. I'm thinking that she's more of a long-ranged fighter as shown with her sniping from the previous episodes.
Oh hey, it's Reid the alleged scum. Looking forward to what atrocities he can commit next week.
つまりルール破ったらシャウラに殺されるってことか。でもシャウラ一人でスバルたち全員相手にできるんかね?前のエピソードで狙撃してた感じ見るに、どっちかっていうと遠距離タイプっぽいよな。
おっ、噂のクズ野郎リードじゃん。来週どんな蛮行やらかすか楽しみやわ。2ちゃん+267
Frontier246
She exhibited some super strength last episode, I think, so she can probably take them hand-to-hand if it comes down to it.
She acted like it would be an automatic response so she'll likely go full Terminator on them.
確かに前回の話でシャウラの怪力っぷりはヤバかったな。接近戦なら多分スバルたちを圧倒できると思う。本人も自動反応みたいに言ってたし、本気出したら完全にターミネーターモードになりそう。普通くん+222
skeleton_clique_143
>She acted like it would be an automatic response so she'll likely go full Terminator on them.
yep i thought the same when she said "as long as none of those rules are broken, my body belongs to me"
確かに。彼女の「その規則が破られない限り、私の身体は私のもの」という台詞は、まさに自己防衛プログラムが自動起動することを示唆している。前回の超人的な腕力と合わせると、もし規則が破られた瞬間、彼女は完全にターミネーターモードになるという伏線だと思われる。制作陣は意図的に「条件付き自立」というテーマを描いているんだろうな。考察くん+198
yurilnw123
High chance she is some kind of golem?
それな!てか多分ゴーレムとかじゃない?笑ギャル+62
danflame135
Given how they kept saying she's not a spirit while Meili was strolling up to her for like a minute straight, plus with how buddy buddy Shaula has been with Meili for some reason, I'd wager she shares her body with a Mabeast or some similar creature, adjacent to how Anastasia has the Echidna fox spirit who can take over her body and do magic, but with less consent.
せやな、メィリィが普通に近づいてってるのに「精霊じゃない」って連呼してたし、シャウラが何故かメィリィと仲良かったのも気になるわ。ワイ的には、アナスタシアがエキドナのキツネ憑かせてるのと同じ感じで、メィリィの体には魔獣とか似たようなのが同居してて、乗っ取られて魔法使うパターンやと思うンゴ。ただし同意は取れてないやつな。2ちゃん+40
Eunuchest
Where's garfield when you need him
確かに、ガーフィールがいれば頼りになるんだけどな普通くん+17
CitronClassic672
She did say that slip up of how as long as they don’t break any rules her body belongs to *her*. So I’m guessing it really would be some kind of automatic response against her will. Man, the more we learn about Flugel, the more he seems like a complete asshole.
せやな。前回で超パワー見せてたし、もし揉めたら格闘でも余裕やろな。
「ルール破らなきゃ自分の身体は自分のもん」って言い間違えてたやん。つまり自動的に反応する系の能力なんかね。ワイの予想やと本人の意思関係なく発動するンゴ。
それにしてもフリューゲル、知れば知るほどクソ野郎やなwww2ちゃん+8
Human_Potato2264
The thing is currently their only true fighter is Emilia. Julius only got his basic swordsmanship and Beatrice runs out of mana pretty quickly. Meili cant bring mabeasts inside the tower too. And Eridna is a potato.
確かに、今のメンバーでまともに戦えるのエミリアだけだよね。ユリウスは基本の剣術しか使えないし、ベアトリスはすぐ魔力切れになる。メィリィも塔の中じゃ魔獣呼べないし、エキドナは芋虫状態だしな。普通くん+94
ZedLa04
Julius with basic swordsmanship is still pretty strong, obviously not on the same level of before, but still top tier
それな!エミリアしか戦力いないのやばくね?笑
でもジュリアスは基本剣術だけでも結構強いし、前よりは落ちたけどまだトップクラスじゃん!ギャル+24
BosuW
I think Eridna can use magic? Not much though
確かに現状まともな戦力はエミリアだけだよね。エキドナも魔法使えるっぽいけど大したことなさそうだし。普通くん+9
baseballlover723
I believe she said she can, just only via the Od, which means that any magic use comes at the expense of Anna's literal life force. So I think it would have to basically be a life or death scenario for her to be willing to use it.
確かに、エキドナは魔力を使えると明言してたけど、それがオド経由ってのがポイントだよな。つまりアナスタシアの生命力を直接消費するわけで、実質的に命の危険がある場面でしか使う気にならないって考察ができる。制作陣はこの制約で彼女の行動原理を縛ってるんだろうな。考察くん+25
AceSoldia
I half expected him to instantly cut off all their heads and we get a Return by Death
わかる!俺も一瞬「全員首飛んで死に戻りじゃね?」って思ったわw シャウラ強すぎて逆に笑う感情くん+50
CitronClassic672
Same, this show has conditioned me to where any time we have an especially happy moment near the end of the episode, I expect it to be interrupted by brutal death at the end.
確かに。この作品に慣らされすぎてて、エピソード終盤に幸せなシーンがあると「これ brutal な死で終わるパターンだ」って思っちゃうよね。普通くん+31
2kenzhe
I mean she can still use her hell snipe close range. We saw her absolutely destory that ma beast that was about to eat Ram and Subaru. She's also super strong, physically able to carry carriages/ground dragons easily. She probably lacks skill compared to like Julius but besides Julius and Emilia, can the others really fight her head on?
シャウラは近距離でもあの「地獄の狙撃」を使えるのが厄介だよな。ラムとスバルを食べようとした魔獣を一瞬で粉砕したシーンを見る限り、純粋な火力は間違いなくトップクラスだと思う。加えて、馬車や地竜を軽々と持ち上げる身体能力も考慮すると、確かにジュリウスやエミリア以外のメンバーが正面から戦うのは難しいという考察ができる。彼女の戦闘スタイルは単純だが、その分穴が少ないんだよな。考察くん+35
UnknownMyoux
She certainly can and cant handle Subaru thats for sure
確かに、シャウラはスバルを殺せるし殺せないっていう絶妙なバランスなんだよね。彼女の強さは間違いないけど、お師様への執着が邪魔してる感じだな。普通くん+6
animdalf
> Emilia: This really feels like the trials in the Graveyard...
> Subaru: \*meaningful look at Foxidna\*
> Foxidna: >_>
... yeah, and how did she know that there were some secret rules anyway? My trust levels are at all time low right now.
エミリアの「墓所の試練みたい」という発言、そしてスバルの意味深な視線→フォクシドナの目をそらす反応…この流れは明らかに伏線だよな。
フォクシドナが「秘密のルールがあること」を知っている時点で、彼女の情報源がどこにあるのかが重要になってくる。
エキドナの意識がアナスタシアに宿っていることを踏まえると、彼女は本来知り得ないはずの情報を持っている可能性が高い。
俺の信頼度も今まさに底辺を更新中だわ。考察くん+250
Frontier246
I love how Subaru and Emilia both were collectively going "not season 2 again!" at the similarities lol.
スバルとエミリアが揃って「また第2期かよ!」って感じで同じこと考えてるの好きすぎるわ笑普通くん+159
CosmicDestructor
While simultaneously asserting that season 2 was no diff...
せやなw S2と変わらんって言いながら「またS2かよ!」って二人同時にツッコんでるの草生えるwww2ちゃん+31
ClemFire
Curious why it was translated as the graveyard and not the Sanctuary
確かに!「Sanctuary」じゃなくて「Graveyard」って訳されてるの気になるな…。エミリアの台詞だし、試練の場が「聖域」じゃなく「墓地」って意味合いになるの、何か意図的なんだろうな。スバルの意味深な視線も含めて、このシーンエモすぎるッ!感情くん+7
Android19samus
the Graveyard was a specific place in the Sanctuary, wasn't it?
それな!「Graveyard」ってサンクチュアリの中の特定の場所のことじゃん?確かに紛らわしいよね笑ギャル+23
Hot-Log6283
Graveyard was where the trial took place where as the Sanctuary is the whole area where they were trapped by the barrier.
確かに、墓地は試練があった場所で、聖域は結界に閉じ込められたエリア全体のことだね。普通くん+20
ClemFire
Okay that could be the case
確かに!聖域の墓所って特定の場所だったんだな、それで合ってるかも感情くん+6
WhoiusBarrel
Typhon's backstory really shattered expectations, real befitting of a Witch.
Bro really commented on all the women present, only to call himself a stick swinger, his not going to beat any allegations here.
タイフォンの過去話、予想を完全に裏切られたな。魔女にふさわしい重みがあったよ。
その場にいる女性全員にコメントして、自分を棒振り男って呼ぶのはさすがに擁護できないだろ。普通くん+234
Frontier246
He may appear bare-handed compared to Julius, but he's still got his sword under the belt!
それな!ユリウスと比べたら素手に見えるけど、ちゃんと剣持ってるんだよな!感情くん+75
MokonaModokiES
he did say he is a guy that just swings a stick... and that also the tittle of the epispde... Maybe you are onto something...
まじそれな!本人も「棒振ってるだけ」って言ってたし、タイトルもそれっぽいじゃん?笑 なんか当たってるかもね〜!ギャル+18
LunarGhost00
> Typhon's backstory really shattered expectations
Really heartbreaking. Her dad sure couldn't hold himself together.
> Typhonの過去編、期待をいい意味で裏切ってきたね
本当に切なかったな。父親、マジで耐えられなかったんだろうな。普通くん+30
Pure_Bread_8873
He called Beako a brat tho
【返信先】「タイフォンの過去話マジで想定外だったわ、魔女にふさわしいな」
【返信】ベア子のことガキ扱いしてたやんけwww2ちゃん+13
NecroCannon
She is a brat to anyone but Subaru and a few others tho lmao
それなw スバルと一部の人以外にはビーコは確かにツンデレ小娘だからな!w感情くん+8
Arachnophobic-
Good on Emilia for realizing this is one of those games that requires backtracking. Ugh. The creator was certainly a troll *looks suspiciously at Subaru*
エミリアが「これは戻りながら進むゲームだ」って気づいたのは良かったね。うーん。作った奴は確かにドSだな…(スバルを疑いの目で見つつ)普通くん+211
Frontier246
Subaru: "Bruh, this is some Castlevania/Metroidvania level of dungeon exploration! It's almost like it came from someone whose played video games!"
エミリアよく気づいたなw
「これカースルヴァニアとかメトロイドヴァニア並のダンジョン探索やん!ゲームやってる奴が作ったんちゃうか?」ってスバルも言ってたしなw2ちゃん+148
PirateKingOmega
If Subaru created it, there would statues of random white hair elves everywhere. Or Shaula would be a white hair elf.
確かに。もしスバルが作ったなら白髪エルフの像がそこら中にあっただろうね。シャウラも白髪エルフになってそう。普通くん+63
CavulusDeCavulei
"Satella the Hero would have done that" while looking at a statue
「それなッ!『英雄サテラ』って銅像見ながら言ってそう(笑)」白髪エルフの銅像だらけになってた説、確かにありえる…シャウラも白髪エルフ化してたかもなァ!感情くん+35
NecroCannon
Subaru: “Yo fuck this guy”
Me: “after a while I can’t help but feel that you really did lose some memories”
確かに、スバルの「この野郎…」って感じだよね。でも「しばらくすると記憶を本当に失ったみたいだな」って思うわ。普通くん+8
is-this-a-nick
What i found funny is that in the very same frame they were discussing about there being no staris, there is a ladder in the background going up a floor (yeah, i know...)
「同じフレームで階段ないって話してるのに、背景に上の階へ続く梯子が映ってて草生えたわ(まあ、わかってるけどな…)」
せやな、エミリアがバックトラック必要って気づいたのは偉いけど、その直後に梯子映ってるのガチで笑うわwww2ちゃん+36
zang227
Yeah it keep getting confusing talking about stairs to another floor and people saying they went up to the second/third/fourth floor
それな!階段ないって話してるのに、同じフレームに梯子映ってるのウケるw
でも確かに階の話になると混乱するよね。「2階/3階/4階に行った」って言われても、階段ないのにどうやって行ったんだよってなるし、しんどいッ!感情くん+9
Freenore
原文
If Flugel is really Subaru then he essentially brought all the video game, especially RPG, logic into the library. The stairs plainly in view are just for background, the real progress point is backtracking.
Also the rule about not leaving until you've cleared the first floor makes me think the creator's logic was this: "anyone other than the person intended to find this would be stuck here for eternity, thus preserving the secret; and when the person who is meant to find this library (Subaru) comes, he'll of course clear the first floor which establishes he's trustworthy, so it is alright, he can leave since he won't spill the secret".
フラグルが本当にスバルなら、彼はゲーム(特にRPG)のロジックをそのまま図書館に持ち込んだってことだね。見えてる階段は飾りで、本当の進行ポイントは戻ることなんだよ。
それに「1階をクリアするまで出られない」っていうルールからすると、制作者の考えはこうだったんだと思う:「この場所を見つけるべき人間以外は永遠に閉じ込められて秘密が守られる。そして、この図書館を見つけるべき人物(スバル)が来たら、当然1階をクリアして信用を得るから、秘密を漏らすことはないし出しても大丈夫」って。普通くん+11
Aito_SAKO
Ramless episode..
ラムおらん回か…寂しいンゴねぇ2ちゃん+208
hifumeme
This Ram shortage is getting ridiculous...
確かにラム不足がヤバすぎるッ!もう無理、しんどい…感情くん+174
animdalf
The lack of Ram is a recession indicator
ラム不足とか経済指標になってて草2ちゃん+88
ClemFire
We better get more Ram in this arc
確かに、このアークではラムの出番もっと欲しいよね普通くん+6
Nesp2
blasphemy
まじそれ!?ないわー、ラム様なしとかありえなくない!?笑ギャル+10
Hot-Log6283
Ram being more expensive.
それな!ラムいない回は寂しすぎるッ。でもラムの出番少ない方が制作費安く済むって皮肉すぎる(泣)感情くん+8
nafissyed
Shaula truly is the ‘Capella’ of S4, her character animation is very lively!
シャウラガチでS4のカペラ枠やなww キャラアニメがめっちゃ生き生きしてるンゴwww2ちゃん+183
Frontier246
And her boobs are always bouncing along with her bubbly personality!
確かに、シャウラの性格の明るさと胸の揺れがマッチしてて印象的だよね。普通くん+159
kicksFR
Plot relevant jiggle physics
確かに!シャウラの性格もおっぱいも弾けまくってる感じやばくね!?笑ギャル+121
CavulusDeCavulei
In the middle of this ass, feet and armpit era, finally some good ol' anime tradition
確かに、最近のアニメ界隈はそういうの多いけど、こういう古典的なお約束は外せないよな。普通くん+25
LiamOmegaHaku
My wife mentioned how impressed she was with the boob animation, unironically. They move really realistically, and when she was laying down they also separated out with gravity instead of just staying boobily in place.
確かに、妻が言うまで気付かなかったけど、胸のアニメーションには制作陣のこだわりを感じる。立ってる時と横になってる時の重力表現の違いを描き分けてるのは、キャラクターの物理的なリアリティを追求した結果だと思われる。単なるファンサービスではなく、作品全体のクオリティを底上げする細かい演出の一つとして評価できる。考察くん+33
nafissyed
Lowkey, Shaula reminds me of a scorpion Yoko Littner from a Gurren Lagann lol.
それな。シャウラってガイアのヨーコをサソリっぽくした感じだよね笑普通くん+7
CitronClassic672
You just reminded me of how Capella’s character animation felt so much more expressive than literally every other character in the story. If you told me a significant amount of S3’s budget went to her facial expressions I’d believe it.
確かにシャウラのキャラアニメーションはS4の中でも飛び抜けて生き生きしてるよね。S3のカペラも表情表現に予算の大部分が注ぎ込まれたと聞けば納得するレベルだった。両者とも制作陣がキャラクターの魅力を最大限引き出そうとした意図が感じられる。考察くん+46
ClemFire
She was my favorite Sin Archbishop in S3 and her Voice acting was nothing to scoff at either
同意。カペラはS3で一番好きな大罪司教だったな。声優の演技もかなり良かったと思う。普通くん+21
CitronClassic672
She was voiced by Aoi Yuuki, nothing to scoff at is an understatement
せやな、S3の大罪司教の中ではワイもあのキャラが一番やったわ。CVが悠木碧って時点で「nothing to scoff at」どころの騒ぎちゃうやろwww ガチで神キャスティングやんけ2ちゃん+17
nafissyed
Capella was for sure the animators favourite character to animate, and it’s incredibly fitting too, given how insane she makes herself out to be.
それなッ!カペラの作画、他のキャラと比べて明らかに力入ってたよね。狂った感じ出そうとしてるのにピッタリすぎるし、アニメーターの愛を感じるわ〜感情くん+12
Beautiful-Neat-7609
The rat transformation sequence was god tier
マジでカペラの鼠変身シーン神すぎじゃん!?やばくない!?あの動きヤバすぎて何回も見直したわ笑ギャル+10
drt0
Flavor of the Season Waifu
シャウラちゃんガチで今期の覇権ヒロインやろwww
動きも表情もめっちゃ生き生きしてて草2ちゃん+5
zeltheturtl
原文
Yea that's definitely something that could happen on a failed loop Subaru, I'm calling a Chekhov's gun on that one. I'm terrified of the thought that they'd get to read some party member's book on a canon run tho.
Also we never got to learn what is Shaula's true nature, they just stopped at dismissing her being a spirit... then how did she live for 400 years.
Oh and another rejection of ~~Frieren's~~ Shaula's killer technique lmao.
それって確かに失敗ループでありそうだよね。チェーホフの銃って感じ。本編で仲間の誰かの本を読む展開になったら怖すぎる。
あとシャウラの正体、結局わからなかったよな。精霊じゃないって否定しただけで終わったし…じゃあどうやって400年も生きてたんだよ。
あとまたシャウラの必殺技が弾かれたの草。普通くん+175
Frontier246
Imagine they find Minerva's book and it actually spoils critical aspects of Emilia's backstory.
"Don't be racist against fairies, Shaula!"
あーそれな!ミネルヴァの本でエミリアの過去がバラされたらやばくね?笑
「妖精に差別すんなし、シャウラ!」って感じじゃん!ギャル+96
croninhos2
I mean, it is being hinted very very very heavily that Shaula is a mabeast. It was weird last episode how she was always glued to Meili but this episode hinted it even more clearly.
確かにそれな!シャウラが魔獣って伏線めっちゃ張られてるよな。前回からメィリィにべったりなのが怪しすぎたけど、今回でさらに明確に示されたし。チェーホフの銃、絶対発火するわこれッ!感情くん+82
Social_Knight
"Grab her reigns, Meili" as well.
(Grabs Hair ribbon to ride her new scorpion doggo).
「手綱を掴んで、メィリィ」ってのもね。
(髪のリボン掴んで新しいサソリ犬に乗る準備)って感じだね。普通くん+34
RoseSpinoza
............................. oooooooooooh. That makes sense! 0\_0 !
They were cutely playing around in the background of this episode too at points.
.....................................おおおおおお。なるほどな!0_0!
今回も後ろの方でちょこちょこ可愛く遊んでたしな。2ちゃん+20
LakerBlue
I assume she is sticking with her because Meili is willfully not contributing at all and Shaula clearly is rather childish so they both can use someone to entertain each other.
確かに、メィリィが全然協力しないからシャウラが一緒にいてるって感じだよね。それにシャウラ明らかに子供っぽいし、二人ともお互いに遊び相手が必要ってことか。普通くん+10
ClemFire
At least they can keep each other company at the kid's table and Meili could use some friends
確かに子供テーブルでお互い相手になってそうだよね。メィリィには友達が必要だし、シャウラも一緒にいてくれるなら一石二鳥じゃない?感情くん+8
matdragon
She also insisted that she was a scorpion as another big hint lol
確かにね。でもあの「サソリだよ」って主張はっきり伏線だったし笑普通くん+11
FoundOmega
Probably a Mabeast of some kind given how Meili keeps using her like a pet? There was that thing with the scorpion tail previously, so a scorpion Mabeast would fit pretty well.
メィリィがペットみたいに使ってるってことは魔獣やろな。前にサソリの尾っぽのやついたし、サソリ型の魔獣で間違いないやろ。チェーホフの銃きたわwww2ちゃん+33
MokonaModokiES
yeah camera kept zooming on Meili during that scene. Really felt like director was really just telling us "Hey look Meili sure looks close to shaula. Why am i focusing camera on her instead of Shaula in the conversation? dont think about it"
its too much on the nose.
確かにあのシーン、やけにメィリィにカメラが寄ってたよね。監督が「なんでシャウラじゃなくてメィリィに注目してるんだろう?」って視聴者に考えさせる意図が透けて見えた。ちょっと露骨すぎる気がする普通くん+28
Magic1998
Thinking about it, Subaru could kill someone in his group to see what happens and then kill himself. It's gruesome to think about
それな。失敗ループのスバルならやりかねんわ。チェーホフの銃ってワイも思うわ。自分のグループの誰か殺して、その結果確かめてから自殺するってマジでグロいンゴねぇ…草2ちゃん+37
BSModder
That's not something Subaru would ever **ever** do.
Even if we entertain the idea, the only person here, he could realistically beat is Anastasia.
それスバルが絶対にやらないやつじゃん!
つーか仮にできたとしても、ここで倒せるのアナスタシアくらいだしね笑ギャル+49
Cyberblood
yup,
and also any logical person wouldnt try it either, specially without knowing how the checkpoints work; imagine killing Anastasia, then killing yourself, just to get RBD right after killing Anastasia. Basically, you soft-locked yourself without a good Save file.
それな。
しかも普通の人間なら尚更そんなことしないよね。特にチェックポイントの仕組みがわかってない状態でさ。「アナスタシア殺す→自殺→蘇生したらまたアナスタシア殺した直後」って無限ループになる可能性考えたら、セーブデータなしで詰むだけだし。普通くん+29
Magic1998
Yeah I agree
それな!まじでありえないし、スバルがそんなことするわけないじゃん!笑ギャル+6
Aliensinnoh
I don’t think he’ll kill someone, but u could see someone dying in some other way and Subaru reading their book before a RBD.
草、スバルが仲間殺してから自殺するって発想ヤバすぎやろwww
でもワイも殺しはせんと思うわ。でも誰か別の死に方した奴の本を死に戻り前に読む展開はありそうやな2ちゃん+7
yurilnw123
> Also we never got to learn what is Shaula's true nature, they just stopped at dismissing her being a spirit... then how did she live for 400 years.
Just some wild guesses
Golem
Elf genes mutant
Ma beast?
This world has elves and oni afterall
確かにシャウラの正体は気になるよね。精霊じゃないって言われただけで終わったし、400年生きてる理由が謎すぎる。
適当な予想だけど
- ゴーレム説
- エルフの遺伝子変異説
- 魔獣説
この世界にはエルフや鬼もいるしね。普通くん+10
Dadarian
原文
Now I’m high watching this episode but, I think the actual Chekhov’s gun is brat #2.
Shaula has to be a Mabeast, right?
Meling was raised by Mabeasts. Like they just talked about that. And she’s hanging all around Shaula.
Like she just obviously leveled up big time because for some reason Subaru dragged in someone who just had a ton of power handed on their lap.
There’s not way that’s what going on but. Subaru being brat #2 along because he’s a lolicon… I think he brought in the 1 person who could control Mabeast, and Shaula is a 400+ year old, but also isn’t a human, and behaves super erratic when her emotions get too overwhelming like seeing someone so crazy that they basically turn into a dog during a 4th of July fireworks going off.
Shaula has to be a Mabeast.
It makes way too much sense to not be the case.
草、ハイになりながら視聴してるンゴねぇwww
で、本命のチェーホフの銃はガキ#2(メィリィ)やろな。
シャウラって魔獣やろ?絶対そうや。
メィリィは魔獣に育てられたってさっき話してたやん。んでシャウラの周りウロチョロしてるし。
スバルがロリコンやから連れてきたガキがまさか魔獣使いって……しかもシャウラは400歳以上で人間じゃなくて、感情昂るとドッカンドッカン花火みたいに暴走するやつ。
シャウラ=魔獣で間違いないわ。
筋通りすぎて草生える。2ちゃん+8
vp797
I see, so the Great Pleiades Library is a library that fills up with books of dead people... books of those that are ruined...
you could almost call this place a library of ruin(a)
なるほど、プレアデス大図書館って死者の本で埋まる場所なのか…滅びた人たちの本で…
この場所、まさに廃墟の図書館って呼べそうだな普通くん+137
jacker1154
"This isn't about Limbyou... or Limbme.."
"This is about Limbus."
え?リンビョウでもリンブミーでもなくて…リンバスってこと!?それマジでしんどい…感情くん+53
Mundology
*"Thank you Stick Swinger"*
*''Stick swinger?"*
*"Because... Umm.. You were swinging a stick."*
*"Oh yeah."*
*「ありがとう、棒振り」*
*「棒振り?」*
*「だって…えっと…棒振ってたから」*
*「ああ、そうだね」*普通くん+24
Daedric202
It's even currently owned by someone who was neglected for hundred of years too lol
え、まじで!?何百年も放置されてたやつが今の持ち主なんだwwwやばすぎじゃん笑ギャル+24
GamerG_20
Angela would rant so hard if she heard beako or shaula complain about measly 400 years
確かに。アンジェラが聞いたら「400年ごときが!」ってキレそうだね(笑)普通くん+6
Cross_Toss
Open the \~ curtin🎵
開幕〜カーテン🎵(ノリノリで歌ってる感じ)感情くん+17
vp797
Lights on\~🎵
ライトオン〜🎵普通くん+11
codec264
> I'm just... a stick swinger.
I think Julius is gonna see how washed his idol is in real time.
>> I'm just... a stick swinger.
ジュリウス、リアルタイムで憧れの人の実力がガタ落ちしてくのを目の当たりにするンゴねぇ…草2ちゃん+134
Frontier246
Don't learn the truth about your heroes and don't meet them after they've just nursed a hangover and have a bunch of lovely ladies in front of him.
それな。英雄の真実を知るなってやつだね。二日酔い明けで綺麗な女性陣の前じゃ恰好つかないもんな。普通くん+57
ClemFire
I am cheering for Julius to school this washed up bum
あらまっ、ジュリアスがあの落ちぶれたアイドルをガチで成敗するとこ見れんの!?やばくね!?笑
ジュリアスの活躍マジで応援しちゃうわ〜!ギャル+15
PeaceAlien
Can't wait for next week when Stick Swinger says it's stick swinging time and stick swings all over them
来週が楽しみすぎるッ!スティック振り回し野郎が「スティック振り回しタイムだぜ」って言いながら敵をぶった切るんだろ?優勝すぎるわ!感情くん+124
Frontier246
Julius: "Aren't you going to pull out a sword?"
Stick Swinger: "I've got one right here!"
(Pulls down his pants)
それなw棍棒振り回しマンが股間の棍棒振り回すってかwジュリアスも「刀は?」って聞くから「ここにあるぜ!」ってパンツ下ろす流れ最高すぎる普通くん+49
yurilnw123
King Beowulf Holy sword
【返信先】
「お前、刀抜かないのか?」
「ここにあるぜ!」
(ズボン下ろす)
【返信】
聖剣キング・ベオウルフってかwww
ワイの股間が聖剣やンゴwww
草しか生えへんわ2ちゃん+12
SmileyTheSmile
Imagine being killed via dick stabbing.
I feel like even Subaru wouldn't want that on his record.
想像だけど、チンコで刺されて死ぬってのはな…さすがにスバルでも記録に残したくないだろ。普通くん+11
Aliensinnoh
RBD incoming. I’m guessing Subaru will get sent back to the book room and will have to find Reid’s book to learn how to beat his test.
「死に戻り」来るな…。多分スバルは本の部屋に戻されて、リードの本を見つけて試験の攻略法を学ぶんだろうな。しんどすぎるッ!感情くん+7
asey_69
Stick Swinger is so damn funny. Bro just straight up started hitting on three people simultaneously
Stick Swingerめっちゃ面白いな。いきなり3人同時にナンパし始めたの草普通くん+114
Frontier246
And this is him straight after a spiritual hangover lol.
それな!精神的二日酔いの直後なのに草w スティックスインガー無理すぎて好き感情くん+47
BosuW
He knows that all weapons are fundamentally sticks
確かに、あいつは本質を理解してるな。武器の基本は結局棒だってことを。普通くん+12
FlugelTheSage
No opening and ending this time!
冒頭とEDなしとかマジかよ!2ちゃん+102
Klusterphuck67
Oh shit we may have a season 2 second cour situation here
やばい、これ第2期後半と同じパターンになりそうだな普通くん+33
ClemFire
Now this is Re:Zero
お、これぞRe:Zeroって感じやなwww
OP・EDなしでガチ勢向けの展開ゴリゴリやんけ2ちゃん+11
Kallenders
原文
I like how the sequence with Typhoon was directed and the use of colors.
I guess I also like the scene where Subaru "falls into Typhoon's book"
I like the conversation between Subaru and Meili
The library's books of the dead aren't sorted into any particular order so not only finding one would be difficult especially one with the information the group needs, so accessing the library hasn't yielded much results yet. (Aside from the other floor)
The animation is pretty good this episode but considering the episode in question, doesn't have much type to shine aside from Shaula's usual attics (obviously not a bad thing)
The current exams now are also similar to the trials in season 2.
I like the last few scenes with the "Stick Swinger", his seemingly change in personality and then on a smaller note, constantly referring to Subaru as a wuss.
タイフーンのシーン、演出と色彩使いが本当に秀逸だよな。スバルがタイフーンの「書」に落ちていく場面も良かった。
スバルとメィリィの会話も考察のしがいがある。死者の書が図書館で無秩序に並べられているという設定は、単なる検索困難以上の意味がありそうだ。目的の情報に辿り着く難易度が、物語の進行を意図的に制御している構造だと捉えられる。
- アニメーションは今週も高クオリティ。ただし今エピソードはシャウラの常套的な動き以外で見せ場が限られる構成だった(悪い意味ではない)
- 現在の試験はS2の試練と類似点がある。同じ作者の意図的な反復構造と思われる
「棒振り回し野郎」のラストシーン、人格変化の描写が興味深い。細かい点だが、スバルを一貫して「弱虫」呼ばわりしていたのも伏線の可能性がある。考察くん+109
Frontier246
>I like the conversation between Subaru and Meili
He was really trying to make her feel like part of the team! It's rather sweet.
それな!スバルとメィリィの会話シーンまじ良かったよね〜笑
スバル、めっちゃチームに入れようとしててさ、優しすぎじゃない!?ギャル+45
CitronClassic672
Subaru has always been good with kids after all!
スバルって昔から子供の扱い上手いよね!普通くん+13
ClemFire
Such a green flag
それな!まじでスバルって子ども好きすぎじゃん?笑
てかそういうとこめっちゃギャップ萌えする~!ギャル+8
HeatedPolkka
Subaru is just a great leader after all his self-discovery.
Since Meili has just helped them and is not killing anyone, why not help her a bit to improve morale and make a friend? After all, they'll be together for quite a while.
I know subaru is genuinely a good guy, but his skills with people improved drastically
スバルはやっぱり自己発見を経て良いリーダーになったよね。
メィリィは今は助けてくれてるし誰も殺してないんだから、士気を上げて友達になるためにちょっと手を貸してあげればいいじゃん?何せしばらく一緒にいるんだし。
スバルが元々いいやつなのは知ってるけど、人付き合いのスキルは格段に上がったと思う。普通くん+10
actionfirst1
>I guess I also like the scene where Subaru "falls into Typhoon's book"
"I'm getting Isekai'd again!"
「スバルがタイフォンの本に落ちるシーン、めっちゃ好き!」
「『また異世界転生しちゃう!?』ってww まじでそのツッコミ最高すぎるッ!」感情くん+23
BosuW
Naofumi: "Hey that's how it happened to me!"
「また異世界転生しちゃう!」ってセリフ、確かに面白かったね。盾の勇者の成り上がり思い出したわ。普通くん+10
actionfirst1
Y'know, I was thinking the same thing
それな!私もまったく同じこと考えてたんだよね〜笑ギャル+5
animdalf
"That time I was reincarnated as a daughter of a local executioner, and through the power bestowed upon me I decided to follow his example and disperse brutal justice onto the world."
New Light Novel coming to your bookstores very soon
ああ、あの「また異世界転生しちゃった!」のシーンだよね。
「処刑人の娘に転生したので、授かった力で彼のやり方を見習って世界に苛烈な正義を振りまくことにしました」
って新作ライトノベル、もうすぐ書店に並ぶよ。普通くん+7
baseballlover723
> I like how the sequence with Typhoon was directed and the use of colors.
Yeah, the color scheme was quite nice, though I did expect the blue rose to feature a bit more prominently in the dialogue, since it was like the only thing in vivid color. Would have expected some kind of an explicit reference to it I thought.
>>台風のシーンの演出と色彩良かったよな
確かに色使いは良かったンゴね
ただ青いバラだけくっそ鮮やかやったから、もっと台詞で触れてほしかったわ
なんか明示的な言及があると思ってたンゴwww2ちゃん+7
Auron15
Hot chick, hot chick, sexy chick, brat, brat, follower, and wuss was hilarious!
やばくね!?ホットな子、セクシーな子、生意気な子、ついてくる子、弱虫って笑えるじゃん!まじウケるんだけど!ギャル+102
GroundbreakingBake2
Lmao red hair dude calling emilia a babe in front of Subaru. Seems like the dude is a funny jerk.
赤毛の奴がスバルの前でエミリアのこと「ベイビー」呼ばわりしてて草
多分あいつは面白いクズやなwww2ちゃん+96
Frontier246
And he calls the scantily clad girl the "sexy chick" to the other ladies "hot chick" lol.
確かに、その赤髪の奴はスバルの前で堂々とエミリアのこと「ベイビー」呼ばわりしてて笑った。しかも他の女性陣には「セクシーな子」「ホットな子」って呼び分けてて、完全に面白いクズだよね。普通くん+74
ClemFire
He's out of line, but he's right
あいつ言い方やばすぎだけど、まじで正論じゃん!笑ギャル+18
shad79
原文
Shaula and her reactions, especially to the man with red hair at the end of the episode, were hilarious; I like her so much!
Typhon's backstory was terrifying. Do you have the slightest bit of guilt about something bad you did in the past? You're dead! Scary thing...
Emilia, as always, was so pure; the scene where she made Subaru repeat three times that promises are important was really cute!
Meili and Subaru's interactions in today's episode were also quite fun! By the way, Meili also asked a really good question about how these books are made and where they came from.
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
* Shaula
* Group scenes
* Emilia
* Meili
* Subaru
* Typhon's backstory
* Others
*EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.*
*EDIT2. I added the missing albums that I couldn't upload earlier because I was in a hurry to catch the bus 😆*
シャウラの反応、特にエピソード終盤の赤髪の男に対する態度がめっちゃ面白かったわ。めっちゃ好きになった!
ティフォンの過去編怖すぎだろ。過去にやった悪いことに対してちょっとでも罪悪感ある?お前は死だ!って…怖すぎる…
エミリアは相変わらず純粋だな。「約束は大事」ってスバルに3回も言わせるシーン、めっちゃ可愛かった!
メィリィとスバルの掛け合いも今回面白かったな。あとメィリィが「この本はどうやって作られたの?どこから来たの?」って聞いた質問、結構鋭いよな。
エピソードのスクリーンショットアルバム:
- シャウラ
- グループシーン
- エミリア
- メィリィ
- スバル
- ティフォンの過去編
- その他
※スクリーンショットアルバム追加しました。
※バスに急いでたからアップロードできなかったアルバムも追加しました😆普通くん+86
ClemFire
>Emilia, as always, was so pure; the scene where she made Subaru repeat three times that promises are important was really cute!
Reminded me of how important promises were to Emilia back in Arc 3 and disappointed she was in Subaru for breaking one
エミリアの純粋さは相変わらずだな。特に「約束は大事」ってスバルに3回も言わせたシーンは本当に可愛かった。
これは3章で約束の重要性を強調していたエミリアと、それを破ったスバルへの失望が伏線として回収されていると考察できる。制作陣の意図が感じられる構成だ。考察くん+8
Hot-Log6283
>Shaula
Didn't realise how often she use her gun finger expression, glad she is on Subaru's side for now at least.
>シャウラ
あの指鉄砲の仕草、めっちゃ使ってるやんwww
今んとこスバル側で助かったわ
ガチで敵に回ったらヤバそうやし2ちゃん+5
Civil-Initial2942
Shaula is just way too cute, and funny, and cute.
She’s that kind of hot doggo-like waifu that everyone loves, just like Delta from TEiS. How could anyone look at them and not fall in love with those adorable idiots?
シャウラの魅力は「かわいい」の一言に尽きるな。あの無邪気さと忠誠心のバランスが絶妙で、まさに犬系ヒロインの理想形だ。
『転生したら剣でした』のデルタと同系統の「愛すべきバカ」タイプだと思う。この手のキャラは作劇上の緩急としても機能するし、視聴者の感情移入を誘う重要なポジションと言える。考察くん+82
Mundology
Flugel was truly a genius
シャウラ可愛すぎるッ!犬系ヒロイン最高すぎる。フリューゲルはまじで天才だわ。感情くん+39
Burntlettuce
Damn. I am sure a lot of people picked up on this but I am just noticing that her color scheme matches Subaru's. Well played.
確かに。気づいてる人多そうだけど俺も今気づいたわ。彼女の配色、スバルと合ってるんだよな。うまいことやってるわ。普通くん+23
Santedtra
Fairouz Ai's definitely channeling the Delta energy for Shaula too.
ワイもそれ思ったわ。Fairouz Aiのシャウラ、完全にデルタのノリやんなwww ガチでかわいすぎて草2ちゃん+26
Benphyre
Fairouz Ai voice range is really insane. She can do happy go lucky characters like Power all the way to Kujou Jolyne. She really brought out the best in Shaula
Fairouz Aiの声域ほんとヤバいよな。パワーみたいな能天気キャラから空条徐倫までこなせるんだから。シャウラの魅力も最大限引き出してたと思う。普通くん+5
Frontier246
>She’s that kind of hot doggo-like waifu that everyone loves, just like Delta from TEiS.
Also just as prone to wearing as little clothing as Delta...and could easily kill you if she's told to.
わかるわかる!シャウラまじでかわいすぎだし犬っぽい感じがたまんないじゃん!
でもデルタと同じで服少なめで、命令されたら普通に殺しにくるってとこも含めて完全にデンジャラス系彼女って感じだよね笑ギャル+11
BosuW
Well same VA as Delta.
I wonder if [Watatabe]>!Miko kinda counts? She's a fox, but definitely guardian dog energy.!<
確かに!同じ声優だしな。
デルタとシャウラ、どっちも可愛すぎるッ!
渡辺さんのミコも狐だけど番犬感あるよな〜それもエモい。感情くん+6
CitronClassic672
I kept hearing Power, myself
確かに声優同じだね。個人的にはずっとパワーに聞こえてたわ。普通くん+5
Frontier246
Subaru hit his love interest quota with girls who have killed him in past loops with Rem.
スバル、過去のループで自分を殺した女の子たちで恋愛対象枠埋めてるの笑うわ。特にレムはな普通くん+12
AceSoldia
Meila already turned down adding to his harem 🤣
メィリィがもうハーレム入りを断ってて草www2ちゃん+8
mobott
Has Emilia (indirectly) killed Subaru in any loops? He's died to Puck but I can't remember if he's died to Emilia's magic or if it was something else every time.
エミリアが過去ループで間接的にスバルを殺したことってあるのかな?パックには殺されたけど、エミリアの魔法で死んだかどうかは記憶にないんだよね。たぶん他の原因だった気がする。普通くん+5
Sonkokun
Hasn’t stopped him before lol.
まじそれな笑 今までも全然止まってなかったじゃん!ギャル+5
GroundbreakingBake2
Really liked Subaru narrating Typhon's book. Interested to see where they go with the concept of the book of the dead.
スバルがティフォンの本を朗読するシーン、めっちゃ良かったわ。死者の書って概念、これからどう展開すんのか気になりすぎるンゴwww2ちゃん+78
Thou_shall_post
原文
Anime only here prediction:
This challenge, getting a pardon from the stick swinger, is absurdly difficult as hungover assholes dislike everyone, source me.
So after realizing who he is they return to the library to find out his backstory and how they could persuade him for a pardon.
As it stands Subaru is right that the creator of the tower is a complete asshole in making challenges essentially nobody could win and getting a hungover asshole to pardon you is par for the course. Granted I doubt it'll be easy to find his book let alone just auto give the answer on how to persuade him.
アニメ勢の予想だけど、この「棍棒振り回し野郎からの恩赦を得る」って試練、二日酔いのクソ野郎は全員嫌いだって俺の経験から言って、めちゃくちゃ難易度高すぎるんだよな。
で、彼の正体に気づいた後、図書館に戻って彼の過去を調べ、どう説得して恩赦を得るか探る流れになると思われる。
現状、塔の創造者は完全にクソ野郎で、実質誰も勝てないような試練を設定してるってスバルの指摘は正しい。二日酔いのクソ野郎に許してもらうってのも、その流れの一環だな。ただ、彼の書物を見つけるのも簡単じゃないし、ましてや説得方法が自動的に分かるなんてありえないだろうけど。考察くん+49
PirateKingOmega
It is very funny the first challenge required you to know star constellations from a different planet along with the backstory of the constellation and the second one is just dealing with some drunk asshole.
最初の試練が異世界の星座の知識とその背景を覚えるって難易度なのに、次の試練がただの酔っぱらいを相手にするだけってギャップが面白すぎるんだよね。普通くん+45
throwawayforwriting2
But you wouldn't know who the asshole is until you already challenged him, probably to your death.
I feel like this challenge was tailored to Subaru's RBD.
確かに!最初のチャレンジで異世界の星座知らなきゃダメってやばくね?笑
でも挑戦するまで相手がクソ野郎か分かんないのまじで怖すぎじゃん!
てかこの試練、スバルの死に戻りありきで設計されてる感やばいよね〜ギャル+16
Atario
Approximately equal difficulties
「確かに、異世界の星座を知らないとクリアできない最初の試練は、他の謎解きとほぼ同じ難易度だったな」普通くん+12
zang227
My anime only prediction: I think the twist for the second challenge is they actually need to get a pardon *for* stick swinger rather than *from* him.
確かにアニメ勢の予想だけどそれアリかもッ!「棒振り回すやつ」からじゃなくて「棒振り回すやつ」のための恩赦を取るって twist、めっちゃエモいし納得できるわ。無理すぎるくらい難しいチャレンジだしな…優勝感情くん+13
Thou_shall_post
Oh bro it's easy then he called shaula the sexy chick easy A plus in my book
せやな、シャウラに「セクシーなお姉さん」呼びしただけで好感度アップやんwww
ワイもそれでいけるわ草2ちゃん+10
Frontier246
I can't help but want them to find the books of the other Witches of Sin while they're there even if it might take them months to actually find each of their books.
(Also Elsa's book...just for fun...)
確かに!せっかくなら他の魔女たちの死者の書も全部見つけてほしいな。見つけるのに何ヶ月もかかりそうだけど。
(あとエルザの本も…ネタで見たいw)普通くん+20
RoseSpinoza
Yeah! That was cool!
せやな!あれはガチでかっこよかったわwww
死者の書の概念、これからどうなるかワイも気になるンゴねぇ2ちゃん+6
AceSoldia
I have a feeling Shuala is some kinda humanoid Mabeast even has a scorpion tail! And Meila is controlling her! It's perfect
確かに!シャウラって人間型の魔獣っぽいよな、しかもサソリの尻尾まであるし!メィリィが操ってるって完璧すぎるッ!感情くん+68
Frontier246
Honestly that would explain how quickly Shaula and Meili have bonded and how simple Shaula is.
それな。確かにシャウラの単純な性格とメィリィとの急な仲良しっぷり考えると、それで説明つくかもね。普通くん+57
Sad_4_You
And her strong sense of smell
せやな。あと嗅覚めっちゃ鋭いとこも関係してそうやなw2ちゃん+15
watglaf
Shaula my beloved, I’m so happy to finally see her animated I rewatched the episode twice this week alone
I was so captivated last episode I completely forgot to comment on her appearing, but I just had to get it off my chest. Best girl
Subaru really has conviction of steel by not folding immediately lol
シャウラ推しとしてはアニメでやっと彼女が見られて嬉しすぎる。今週だけで2回流したわ
前回の話に夢中になりすぎて彼女の登場にコメントするの忘れてたけど、どうしても言いたかった。最高のヒロインだ
スバルはマジで鋼の意志だよな、すぐに折れないって笑普通くん+58
Frontier246
Skintight spandex Emilia > Bikini and Short Shorts Shaula.
(But they book are great in their own way)
あっそれな!でもシャウラのビキニ&ホットパンツ姿もまじでやばかわじゃん!?
(どっちも最高ってことには同意するけどね笑)ギャル+21
AceSoldia
I mean..they both leave little to the imagination 🤣
せやな…どっちも想像の余地ゼロやんwww2ちゃん+12
CitronClassic672
I imagine it’s similar to his convo with Crusch in S1 “If I didn’t already have a number 1 and number 2 in my heart, that might’ve been dangerous.” He’s got Emilia beside him and on a mission to save Rem. Shaula’s basically white noise.
確かにそれな。S1でクラッシュに言った「心に1位と2位がいるから危なかった」ってやつと似た感じだよね。エミリアが隣にいて、レムを救うミッションもあるから、シャウラはほぼ空気みたいなものだわ。普通くん+10
ClemFire
And comparing Shaula's personality to Emilia or Rem's I don't think she is Subaru's type anyways
確かに!シャウラの性格エミリアとかレムと比べたら、スバルのタイプじゃない気するじゃん?笑ギャル+5
Return_By_Cringe
All the scenes in white voids look so good, the blue outlines are a really good touch
白い虚無のシーン全部めっちゃいいな。青い輪郭線がいいアクセントになってる普通くん+58
IchbinFroggy_YT
Yeah i love the design of that
確かに!白い空間の演出エモすぎるッ!青い輪郭線がめっちゃオシャレで優勝だわ〜感情くん+7
Krioniki
Was gonna leave the same comment, something about the way they look in those scenes is just so good
同意。あの白い空間でのシーン、ほんと良かったよね。青い輪郭線がいいアクセントになってる。普通くん+6
Roskal
原文
I was sure who I assume to be Reid would just instantly merc the lot of them before they could comprehend anything and we'd get another RBD to end the episode. I'm surprised he's actually talking to them and giving them the first swing. The hot girl, hot girl, sexy girl, brat, brat, follower, wuss. was hilarious too. He doesn't recognise Emilia as looking like Satella but I thought he was alive back when Satella was destroying the world so he'd definitely mention something.
もうレイドっぽいやつ出てきたら即全員瞬殺して死に戻りコースやろなって思ってたわ。まさか話聞いて先手譲るとは思わんかったンゴwww
美人→美人→セクシー→ガキ→ガキ→取り巻き→ヘタレって評価も草生える
サテラの生き残りならエミリアのこと「そっくりやん」って言うかと思ったけど触れないんかい2ちゃん+58
danko1667
I mean he doesn't even acknowledge Shaula as someone he knows, so I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't learned object permanence yet
確かに!ライってシャウラのこと「知ってる奴」としてすら認識してないし、物体の永続性すらまだ学習してないんじゃないかってレベルだわ。マジでやばい。感情くん+55
Human_Potato2264
原文
>He doesn't recognise Emilia as looking like Satella but I thought he was alive back when Satella was destroying the world so he'd definitely mention something.
He doesn't recognize Subaru as Flugel either albeit he probably cant smell him. Although i dont think this is an evidence since he doesn't call Shaula out by her name nor does he seem to recognize her as well. Or maybe he just doesnt give a fuck about others like Yujiro Hanma he does give me that vibe.
確かに、ラインハルトがエミリアをサテラと認識しない点は興味深い考察ポイントだ。彼がサテラの時代に生きていたなら、当然何か反応があって然るべき。しかし、スバルをフリューゲルとも認識しないのも気になる。匂いを感じ取れない可能性はあるが、シャウラに対しても名前を呼ばず認識している様子がない。これはむしろ、彼が周囲に全く関心がないタイプ、まさに範馬勇次郎的な存在である可能性を示唆している。他人の事情に興味ゼロ、ただ己の強さのみを追求する剣鬼というキャラクター性が、この無反応の伏線として機能していると考察できる。考察くん+37
Roskal
He didn't care about his own name either so you might be right. Subaru supposedly looks different from Flugel even if they are the same person somehow so it makes sense he wouldn't recognise him if he cant smell him, But Emilia looks exactly like Satella and Reid is one of the 3 heroes that sealed Satella so I thought he would say something.
確かに名前にも興味なかったし、その説はありそうだね。スバルとフリューゲルが同一人物でも見た目が違うなら、匂いを感じられないレイードが気付かないのも分かる。でもエミリアがサテラと瓜二つなのは気になるな。サテラを封印した三英傑の一人なら何か言うかと思ったよ。普通くん+20
khriku
原文
isn't he a possible "snapshot" taken of Reid on his prime when the tower was built? The original purpose was only a library as Shaula said, it only became a watchtower later AFTER the witch was defeated.
Last episode told us Reid died of old age. he should look much older.
Besides... look at Reid personality, he doesn't care much about anyone that didn't make an impression on him... If you are not "hot woman" or "servant". You are "trash", "ankle bitter" and numerous other insults to him.
This is at least a ghost, possessed statue or a "mimic" of him
なるほど、確かに「塔建設時の全盛期のリードのスナップショット」という考察は面白いな。シャウラが言うように元々はただの図書館だったのが、魔女討伐後に監視塔へと変わった経緯を踏まえると、このリードは生前のコピーか疑似人格の可能性が高い。
前回のエピソードでリードは老衰で死んだと明かされたが、そこから逆算すると塔にいるリードは見た目が若すぎるのが矛盾点だ。つまり実体ではなく、塔の仕組みで再現された存在と考えるのが妥当だろう。
さらにリードの性格描写を見るに、「美人か使用人以外はゴミ扱い」という極端な選別意識が一貫している。これは生前の本人の価値観を忠実に再現したプログラム的な挙動とも取れる。幽霊か、像に憑依した存在、あるいは本人の模造品という線が濃厚だな。考察くん+7
MokonaModokiES
原文
Shaula described him as a bully so i imagine he is the type to take his time rather than to end stuff quickly. Maybe its gona be a slow painfull death this time...
also i think there might be something wrong with his memory since he didnt recognice Shaula either despite the fact she clearly knew him. And by how he started off talking like a broken machine repeating the same line i feel he might be artificial rather than the real one.
シャウラが「いじめっ子」って言ってたし、多分すぐ終わらせるタイプじゃなくてゆっくり楽しむタイプなんだろうな。今回は苦しい死に方になりそうだね…
あと、彼がシャウラを認識してなかったのも記憶に何か問題がある気がする。壊れた機械みたいに同じセリフを繰り返してた感じだと、本物じゃなくて人工的な存在かもしれないな。普通くん+8
Kalatash
Man, I would love to see the "Hot girl, hot girl, sexy girl, brat, brat, follower, wuss" as a clip.
マジで「かわいい子、かわいい子、セクシーな子、ガキんちょ、ガキんちょ、フォロワー、弱虫」って並びのクリップ見てえわ!笑ギャル+5
WalkingAbacus
Shaula is way too cute.
That typhon backstory though. Pretty scary.
Anyway, that's another chill episode.
シャウラ可愛すぎるッ!優勝!
タイフォンの過去編しんどい…怖すぎる。
でも今回もまったり回だったね。感情くん+47
ClemFire
Typhon I went from fearing her dad would hit her to fearing Typhon herself
Typhonには最初は父親に怒られるのかと思ったけど、結局Typhon本人が怖すぎたわ。普通くん+11
Nulazanzal
The switch from iionna to Eroionna was just perfect Sugita. Great casting.
イイオンナからエロイオンナへの切り替えがガチで完璧すぎやろ杉田。キャスティング神やんwww2ちゃん+49
UnderstandableXO
meili was raised by mabeasts in the wild, she’s this universe’s tarzan
メィリィって野生で魔獣に育てられたんだよな。この世界のターザンみたいなもんだね普通くん+52
LeonKevlar
原文
Subaru getting upset at the solution of the puzzle was actually pretty funny. I mean, he's not wrong to be angry! It's literally a puzzle made for someone who got isekai'd. Even if someone manages to reach the tower and defeat everything in their path, including Shaula, they're pretty much stuck at the first chamber.
We get to see Typhon's backstory! Man, what kind of father puts his daughter on the splash zone of the execution platform? I do wonder how she ended up manifesting her power. Is it the same as Divine Protections, where people are just born with it?
So, based on Subaru and Julius' experience, the library has every book about all dead people in the world? I don't know how much time they'll spend on this floor, but I wonder if Emilia will find some familiar names in that library.
Shaula blowing Subaru a kiss and Subaru slapping it away just keep getting funnier and funnier.
Meili asking the real questions here. I like that we learn a little about her, but her question on how more books are added to the library is interesting. Would a book about Subaru materialize out of nowhere if he suddenly dies there? Hmmm...
Okay, so Shaula denies that she's a Spirit like Beako, but what if she's something more terrifying? I've noticed that she's super friendly with Meili and Meili even gives a little knowing smile while looking at Shaula when Subaru was asking what she is. So what if she's actually a human-shaped Mabeast? Would that even be possible?
Please tell me I'm not the only one who was hoping Subaru would stop fucking running into the unknown? I was genuinely scared that something bad would happen to him and Beako when they reached the top. Thank goodness nothing happened but it was still goddamn tense for me!
That's definitely Sugita's voice I'm hearing from this dude! The fact that he has red hair, blue eyes, a horrible attitude, and Shaula is fucking afraid of him, I think it's pretty easy to figure out that this dude is Reid Astrea. I can't wait to see how Julius will react when he realizes who the guy is. 😆
【パズルの解法に昂が怒るシーン】
確かに笑えたが、彼の怒りは正当だな。あのパズル、異世界転移者専用に設計されてるんだよな。塔に辿り着いてシャウラを倒しても、最初の部屋で詰む構造って完全に意図的だ。
【ティフォンの過去】
処刑台の飛沫がかかる場所に娘を立たせる親って…。彼女の権能の発現経緯が気になる。加護と同じく生得的なものなのか?
【図書館の仕組み】
ジュリウスとスバルの体験から推測するに、全世界の故人の書籍が収められてるんだな。エミリアがこの階で見覚えのある名前に遭遇するかどうか、興味深い。
【シャウラの行動】
スバルへの投げキッスを叩き落とすやり取り、見るたびに笑いが加速する。
【メィリィの質問】
彼女の疑問「どうやって蔵書が増えるのか」は核心を突いてる。もしスバルが塔内で急死したら、彼の本が突然出現するのか?考察が捗る。
【シャウラの正体考察】
彼女がベアトリスのような精霊ではないと否定した点。メィリィとの親密なやり取りや、スバルに正体を問われた時の含み笑いを踏まえると、人型魔獣の可能性が浮上する。実在するかは別として。
【スバルの無謀な行動】
「未知に突っ込むな」と願うのは俺だけ考察くん+46
Frontier246
原文
Subaru is basically everyone who was asking why this was a test that basically only he could have solved. It's a cruel test for anyone but him and mighty convenient...maybe too convenient?
I feel like that dad wanted to instill this really hardcore sense of right/wrong and how to treat criminals in his daughter only for it to end up killing him and everyone in the town when she so innocently thought she understood it alongside a power that no child should have been able to wield.
I feel like there are so many deceased characters with interesting backstories I'd love for them to take the time to look...but that might actually take years with how this library is set up.
Shaula trying to be the most affectionate character in Subaru's "Harem" and he's having none of it lol.
Does Meili know Shaula might be a Mabeast variant and she's not telling anyone? If she can sense Mabeast she might be able to tell right? Is that why she's hanging out with Shaula so much? Could she stop Shaula from killing them?
If it is Reid Astrea, does he not recognize Shaula or does he just not care beyond the fact that she's a sexy lady barely wearing any clothing? Because she definitely remembers him lol.
スバルがパズルの答えにキレてたの草生えたわ。まあ怒るのも当然やけどな
「なんでこれ俺にしか解けないテストなんや」って思ってた全員の代弁者やん。誰にとってもクソテストだけどスバルには都合良すぎる…いや、都合良すぎじゃね?
あの親父、娘に強烈な善悪観と犯罪者への処遇を叩き込もうとした結果、娘が無邪気に「理解した!」って思って子供が扱えるわけない力を使ったせいで自分も町の全員も死んだってオチやろ
死んだキャラの過去話めっちゃ気になるんやけど、この図書館の仕様だと数年かかりそうやな
シャウラがスバルのハーレムで一番愛情表現しようとしてるのにスバルがガン無視してて草
メィリィはシャウラが魔獣の亜種って気づいてて黙ってるんか?魔獣感知できるなら分かるやろ?だからシャウラと一緒にいるんか?シャウラが殺すの止められるんか?
もしライド・アストレアなら、シャウラのこと認識してないんか、それ単にセクシーな薄着女ってだけで気にしてないんか?向こうは覚えてるのに笑2ちゃん+21
ParkEducational5878
原文
>We get to see Typhon's backstory! Man, what kind of father puts his daughter on the splash zone of the execution platform? I do wonder how she ended up manifesting her power. Is it the same as Divine Protections, where people are just born with it?
Given how witch factor seems to jump to the nearest suitable host, maybe one of her father's victims/criminals (I don't know how to call them) had one and transfer to her because of the proximity?
Could be that or something else, but I do not think she was born with it for some reason. The way Petelgeuse witch factor appeared seems more like so sort of tumor/physical things one can handle whilst divine protection just happened to exist/appear. Just look at Reinhardt and Otto for example, it seems much less "tangible" in a way.
That said tho, her whole backstop got me screaming "What?!" in disbelief because of how huge it felt to me. Like come on the origin story of one of the witches? Give me more!!!
確かに!ティフォンの過去編は衝撃的だったな。「何で!?」って叫んだわ。あんな幼い子を処刑台の真ん前に立たせる父親って…。魔女因子の継承方法、確かに近くの適合者に飛ぶって説はあり得るかも。ペテルギウスのケース見ると、権能みたいな先天的なものより腫瘍みたいに後天的に発生する感じがするしな。でも魔女の一人の原点が見れて本当に興奮した!もっと見せてくれ!普通くん+18
zeltheturtl
>Please tell me I'm not the only one who was hoping Subaru would stop fucking running into the unknown?
Yes!! Thank you! I was so expecting to see his head flying off his shoulders as he reached the top of the stairs!
>>スバルがまた無鉄砲に突っ込むのやめろって思ったの俺だけ?
それな!!ワイも階段のてっぺん着いた瞬間に首飛んでくんちゃうかとガチでヒヤヒヤしたわwww2ちゃん+15
khanvau
原文
A Re:ZERO episode with no OP or ED. We are so back.
This episode was mostly just exposition. But it was done in such a fun way. The episode was over before I even realized it. It didn't really feel like exposition.
We got Typhon's backstory. She was a menace. No wonder they built a whole ass city just to trap and kill her. I'd like to see how exactly they did it. And the backstories of all the other witches animated, too. That'd be so sick.
Shaula is so freaking cute. Ai Fairouz is killing it by voicing her. But I love how expressive the anime made her. And it's not just her either. All of the character expressions, especially Subaru's, are great in this season (but Shaula's is on top). I also loved Subaru and Emilia's interactions in this episode.
Hoo boy. This "Stick Swinger" sounds like a huge asshole. Tomokazu Sugita did a great job voicing him. I can't wait for the next episode!
OPもEDもなかったけど、それがむしろ良い感じだったな。
内容はほぼ説明パートだったけど、すごく楽しくて気づいたら終わってた。説明っぽくなかったのがすごい。
ティフォンの過去編きたね。あいつやばかったな。あんな街ごと作って閉じ込めて殺さなきゃいけないのも納得。他の魔女たちの過去もアニメで見たいな、絶対面白いだろ。
シャウラ可愛すぎる。Ai Fairouzの声優も最高だけど、アニメの表情豊かさが特に良い。今期は全キャラの表情がいいけど、シャウラがトップだな。スバルとエミリアの掛け合いも良かった。
スティックスウィンガーってやつ、めっちゃクソ野郎っぽいな。杉田智和の演技も最高だった。次回が楽しみ!普通くん+40
ClemFire
Yeah this Stick Swinger feels like an OP isekai MC who realizes they can just be a jackass because no one can physically stop them
せやな、その棒振り回す奴、完全に「物理的に止められないから好き放題しよ」って開き直ったチート異世界主人公やんwww2ちゃん+7
khriku
原文
> I'd like to see how exactly they did it. And the backstories of all the other witches animated, too. That'd be so sick.
Typhoon hunted people that "sinned" and wanted to judge them as seen on her backstory right?
My theory, make Priestella a prison city for the most hardcore criminals, let some innocent bystanders move in to fake it being a fully functional city, Set the trap and open the water gate as soon as Typhhon enters the city.
Sure it is dark to think innocents and some psychoes died JUST so they could get Typhoon, but that would be the most realistic approach. A town full of sinners would be perfect bait for a witch like her.
OPもEDもなしのRe:ゼロ回、最高だな。
今回のエピソードはほとんど説明パートだったけど、それがすごく上手くやってたよね。
> あの方法がどうやって実行されたのか、他の魔女たちの過去もアニメで見たいな。めっちゃかっこよくなるだろうな。
暴風は自分の過去話で見た通り、「罪を犯した」人を狩って裁きたがってたんだよね?
俺の説だと、プリステラを最凶の犯罪者たちのための監獄都市にして、無実の住民を住まわせて普通の街に見せかける。罠を仕掛けて、暴風が街に入ったらすぐに水門を開くって感じ。
無実の人やサイコ野郎どもが暴風を捕まえるためだけに死ぬって考えると暗いけど、それが一番現実的な方法だと思う。罪人だらけの街は彼女みたいな魔女にとって完璧な餌になるしな。普通くん+5
Urgnu-the-Gnu
原文
**Sugoooku Watch**
The tally so far:
Sugoooku counter: 109
Sugoku-likes: 18
Non-canon sugoooku: 25
Non-Emilia sugoooku: 24
That's a sugoi right at the start, gotta take that for the sugoku-likes. And a sugoooku right after Subaru's way too immersive lecture. Another one halfway through the episode when they confere about their findings (or lack thereof). And yet another one when Emilia wonders how Shaula never got to go above the fourth layer in 400 years. Also, naturally, another episode without any OP or ED. Break Time has nothing, but I can't wait for it to be translated by someone, as it could have some interesting insights.
It might have been a slower episode, but it had its moments. Particularly getting a little backstory on Typhon was really interesting, as was learning more about Meili. And now, with Barry Chopsticks here, I'm certain the next episode will be pretty action-packed. He's quite entertaining, and Tomokazu Sugita voices him really well. From how Shaula reacted to him, I have a hunch about him, but we'll see about that next episode, I suppose.
The count is now at:
Sugoooku counter: 112
Sugoku-likes: 19
Non-canon sugoooku: 25
Non-Emilia sugoooku: 24
See you all next episode, which might have less sugoooku but very likely more action!
**スゴオクウォッチ**
現時点での集計結果:
スゴオクカウンター:109
スゴイ系(like):18
非正史スゴオク:25
非エミリアスゴオク:24
冒頭でいきなりスゴイが来たから、スゴイ系にカウント。スバルの熱すぎる講義の直後にもスゴオク。中盤で調査結果を話し合う場面(まあ何も出なかったけど)でももう一つ。そしてエミリアが「シャウラは400年も4層より上に行けなかったのか」と疑問に思った時にも。当然、今回もOP・EDなし。Break Timeは特になしだけど、誰かが翻訳してくれるのを待ってる。面白い考察が含まれてるかもしれないし。
ややスローなエピソードだったけど、見どころはあった。特にティフォンの過去話が興味深かったし、メィリィについてもっと知れたのが良かった。そしてバリーチョップス(バリー)が登場したから、次回はアクション多めで確定だろう。彼のキャラはかなり面白いし、杉田智和の声も完璧。シャウラの反応からすると、彼についてはある仮説が浮かんでるんだが、それは次回に取っておこう。
現在のカウント:
スゴオクカウンター:112
スゴイ系(like):19
非正史スゴオク:25
非エミリアスゴオク:24
次回はスゴオクは減るだろうが、アクションは確実に増える。それではまた!考察くん+38
Arachnophobic-
Okay, so Shaula denies being an artificial spirit like Beatrice, so that's one of my theories out of the window. She still feels constructed/artificial somehow, maybe just not a spirit?
なるほど、シャウラはベアトリスみたいな人工精霊じゃないって否定してたのか。俺の説の一つが外れたわ。それでもなんか人工的に作られた感じはするんだよな。ただ精霊じゃないだけかもね。普通くん+32
Social_Knight
A Scorpion/Doggo cross Mabeast, is my current guess.
Being attached to Meili (literally Tarzan) is a sign.
あっそれな!私の予想だとサソリ×ワンちゃんの魔獣ハイブリッドじゃね?笑
ていうかメィリィにベッタリなの、まんまターザン状態じゃん!てかその時点で確定っぽくね?ギャル+18
aryanrussell
It's gotta be hard for subaru being a father of 3 already. Seriously tho, Meili's expressions this episode were so damn cute!
確かにスバルがもう3人の父親ってのは大変そうだよね。でもマジで、今回のメィリィの表情がめちゃくちゃ可愛かった!普通くん+35
Viktorv22
My little assassin can't be this cute!
確かに!もう父親業してる感やばいよね。メィリィの表情が可愛すぎて無理ッ!小柄な暗殺者がこんなに可愛いとか優勝だわ〜感情くん+8
ptd163
原文
I think I'm seeing why source readers consider the arcs that S4 will cover the peak of series (so far). It's been three consecutive episodes of basically just lore and exposition and yet I'm probably more engaged then I've ever been in the series.
Typhon backstory jumpscare. Does that mean that the Witches were once like regular people and not just like cosmic personifications? Because that kinda makes them even more terrifying if so. The flowers and the blood being the only thing that was in colour in Typhon's memories while everyone else in that same grayscale was sus to me. I wonder what that means. Maybe they represent the beauty that Typhon finds in her innocent cruelty?
Every time Emilia scolds Subaru or acts like his girlfriend is such a treat. Shaula is such a fun mysterious character. I don't think she's a spirit because of the way she was talking about her body and how freely she tries to give her affection to Subaru, but I don't think she's exactly human either considering she's been alive for 400 years. Whatever she is she's already fighting Priscilla for my second favourite girl. Then there's this new guy that also seems pretty interesting. Anyone that can get a jealous rise out of Subaru or Emilia is good start in my book.
Considering that Subaru solved the first exam, Emilia found the stairs to the second exam, and Julius is the one that was called "follower" I think everyone is going to have something to do in the exams. This is probably Julius' turn because after Gluttony ate everyone's memory of him what is he to anyone else (besides Subaru) now, but a stick swinger? Which was also the name of the episode.
考察すべきポイントが多い回だったな。まずTyphonの記憶フラッシュバック、あれは魔女たちが単なる概念的な存在ではなく、元は普通の人間だった可能性を示唆している。もしそうなら、人間が持つ残酷さの延長線上に彼女たちの恐ろしさがあるという考察ができる。花と血だけがカラーで、他が白黒だったのは、Typhonにとって無垢な残酷さの中にのみ美しさを見出していた伏線かもしれない。
エミリアがスバルを叱るシーン、彼女が彼女らしく振る舞うほどスバルとの関係性が深まっている証拠だな。シャウラは精霊ではないとみる。身体についての言及や400年生きている点を踏まえると、賢者と何らかの契約を結んだ存在か、あるいは人外の種族という考察が成り立つ。既にプリシラと並んで好きなキャラに躍り出ているのも納得。
ユリウスが「棍棒使い」と呼ばれたエピソードタイトルは重要だ。暴食に記憶を食われた彼は、今やスバル以外にとっては「ただの剣士」でしかない。第一試験をスバルが解き、第二試験をエミリアが階段を見つけた流れから、第三試験はユリウスのターンという考察ができる。彼の存在意義が試される伏線だとすれば、今後の展開が非常に楽しみだ。考察くん+28
baseballlover723
> The flowers and the blood being the only thing that was in colour in Typhon's memories while everyone else in that same grayscale was sus to me.
I was also pretty curious about that as well. I thought they would have made some kind of explicit reference to the flower, since it was shown so prominently. But I guess not.
タイフーンの記憶の中で、花と血だけがカラーで他は全部モノクロだったのは怪しかったんだよね。
確かにそれ気になってた。あんなに目立つ描写だったから、花について何か明確な言及があるかと思ったけど、そうでもなかったみたいだな。普通くん+8
ptd163
Yeah. It's gotta be something. This author doesn't do anything without a reason so we'll probably find out eventually.
While I've got you this might seems silly, but I'm sorry I didn't tag during my Re:Zero catchup journey. You seem like someone that enjoys the journey of new people getting into the series and I didn't take you on that.
確かに。これは絶対に何か意味があるはずだ。長月先生は理由なく描写を入れないからな。いずれ明かされるだろう。
話は変わるけど、Re:Zeroの追いかけ旅でタグ付けしなかったのは申し訳なかった。君は新しい人がこのシリーズに入っていく過程を楽しむタイプに見えるのに、その機会を共有できなかったな。考察くん+6
baseballlover723
原文
> While I've got you this might seems silly, but I'm sorry I didn't tag during my Re:Zero catchup journey.
No worries, I found them anyways. Though mostly pretty late, so I didn't respond since you already had some other people to talk to. I was also generally pretty busy, so I didn't mind taking some time off to just be a reader, instead of an active participant in your particular discussion. Given what was already discussed, I probably wouldn't have added too much anyways. Gotta let people experience it in their own way too. We can always talk about stuff in more detail later.
> You seem like someone that enjoys the journey of new people getting into the series and I didn't take you on that.
Very much so. I usually tag people in RES that make mention of watching Re:Zero.
いや、気にしないで見つけたよ。ただ結構遅かったから、もう他の人と話してたみたいだし返信しなかったんだよね。俺も大体忙しかったし、たまにはお前の議論に積極的に参加せずに、読者としてのんびりするのも悪くなかったんだ。もう話されてた内容なら、俺が付け加えることもあんまりなかったと思うしね。人それぞれの楽しみ方があるし、細かい話はまた後でできるさ。
確かにそうだね。俺はだいたいRESで「Re:Zero見てる」って言ってる人にタグ付けてるよ。普通くん+5
ClemFire
Oh hey you're caught up! Is this the first episode you're watching week by week now? The Typhon was so creepy but in a strange way it was kinda beautiful in how different we see her brain and morals operate. I find it hard to even call her evil despite her horrible deeds and before she unlocked her powers I was even afraid that her dad was gonna hit her.
おお、追いついたんだね!これが初めての週刊視聴になるのか?タイフォンはすごく不気味だったけど、奇妙な意味で彼女の脳内や道徳観の動き方が独特で美しくもあったんだよな。あれだけ恐ろしいことをしていても彼女を「悪」と呼ぶのは難しいし、能力を解放する前は父親に殴られるんじゃないかと心配してたんだ。考察くん+7
ptd163
原文
> Oh hey you're caught up! Is this the first episode you're watching week by week now?
By the time I had caught up episode 4 was already out so yes, this is the first episode I had to wait for like everyone else.
> The Typhon was so creepy but in a strange way it was kinda beautiful in how different we see her brain and morals operate. I find it hard to even call her evil despite her horrible deeds and before she unlocked her powers I was even afraid that her dad was gonna hit her.
Yeah. It's hard to call her evil because so much of what we associate with evil requires intent and Typhon doesn't intend to kill people. It kinda just happens because of her power. It's, as Subaru put it, innocent cruelty and that kinda makes it even more terrifying than if Typhon was more of a straight up villain like the incel was.
ああ、もう追いついたんだね!これが初めて週刊で見るエピソードってこと?
俺が追いついた時にはもう第4話まで出てたから、そうだね、これが初めてみんなと同じように待つエピソードだよ。
確かにタイフォンは不気味だったけど、あの脳みそと倫理観の違いを見ると奇妙に美しくもあったな。あの恐ろしい行為の割に悪とは呼びにくいんだよな。能力に目覚める前は父親に殴られるんじゃないかって心配してたし。
そうなんだよ。悪って言いにくいんだよな。悪意には意図が必要だってイメージがあるけど、タイフォンには殺す意図がないから。彼女の能力のせいでそうなっちゃうだけで。スバルが言ってた「無邪気な残酷さ」ってやつで、それがむしろインセルのような真っ向から悪役より怖いんだよな。普通くん+7
ClemFire
The incel was a piece of shit but he was understandingly human which at least make his thought process knowable compared to Typhon defies our conventional understandings of right and wrong making her truly alien and like cosmic horror yet she still looks like us which makes it worse in my opinion
> おっもう追いついたんか!これが週刊で見る最初のエピソードか?
あのインセル野郎はクソだったけど人間らしさは理解できたンゴな
少なくとも思考回路は分かる範囲だったわ
それに比べてタイフォンは善悪の常識がぶっ壊れててガチで異質やん
まるで宇宙的ホラーやで
しかも人間の姿してるから余計にキモいわワイ的には2ちゃん+6
D3k4s
Fuuuuuck that was such a good episode, can't believe i have to wait one week for the next one. This Season so far is fire god damn
やばっ!今回の話まじで神回すぎたじゃん!来週まで待たなきゃいけないのきつすぎるんだけど笑 今期マジでアツすぎるでしょ!ギャル+26
zackphoenix123
This is probably my least favourite Episode of the Season so far, lmao. The fact that it's still good shows how high the standard EP quality in RZ is. TwT.
同意。今シーズンは全部ハイクオリティやからな。今回が最低でも普通に面白いってやばいわ。草2ちゃん+9
D3k4s
Hmmmm now that i think about it, yeah you're probably right. If i had to rank them this would be the worst one, but it was still so freaking good. Also not gonna lie i was kinda relieved nothing fucked up happened, i think i still have PTSD from the 3rd EP 😃
確かにそうかも。ランク付けするなら今回が一番下になるけど、それでもめちゃくちゃ良かったよね。あと正直、何もヤバいことが起きなくてちょっと安心したわ。まだ3話のトラウマが残ってるわ😃普通くん+6
ClemFire
The 3rd episode is still the best one I've watched of any show this season so far, but it messed me up good.
同意すぎる……第3話は今期アニメでぶっちぎりの優勝だけど、心抉られすぎてしんどいッ!感情くん+6
NanDemoKnaives
The library of invasion of privacy lol. I wonder if the books are the entire life on an individual or a certain moment in their lives.
Subaru running up the stairs excitedly with Beako in his arms going "Dadadada" while she's screaming was so funny to me, it's nice to see him in a good mood. I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot less of that soon enough.
プライバシー侵害図書館って感じだな笑。あの本って個人の人生全部を記録してるのか、それとも特定の瞬間だけなんだろうな。
スバルがベアトリス抱えて階段駆け上がりながら「だだだだー」って言ってて、ベアトリスが悲鳴あげてるのめっちゃ笑った。機嫌いいスバル見れるのいいね。でもすぐにそんな姿も見れなくなりそうだけどな。普通くん+31
ClemFire
The wholesome Subaru and Betty moments bring me life
確かに!スバルとベティの尊いやりとりが俺の命の源すぎるッ!感情くん+9
Shantotto11
Two things:
1. “Subaru Natsuki” probably has at least 15 books in that library.
2. I’m calling it (assuming it wasn’t already called and I wasn’t paying attention): Shaula is a mabeast, which would explain why she gets along so well with Meili.
1. スバル、あの図書館に最低15冊は本持ってそうやな
2. ワイの予想やけど(もう言われてたらすまん)シャウラって魔獣やろ。それならメィリィと仲良しなのも納得や2ちゃん+22
yjggy
>“Subaru Natsuki” probably has at least 15 books in that library.
Or there are could be one very annoyed librarian again and again returning Subaru's book back to publisher.
それな
「菜月昂」の本が図書館に15冊もあるってのもあり得るけど、同じ本を何度も返品させられてる怒り狂った司書がいる可能性もなくはないよね普通くん+12
Arachnophobic-
That's a decent theory, but shouldn't the gang be able to tell from the aura right away that she's a mabeast?
それな!その説わりとアリだけど、仲間たちがオーラで魔獣ってすぐ気づけるんじゃね?ギャル+12
ClemFire
That's why I don't believe in the theory and her being paired with Meili is a red herring
せやな、それな。オーラで一発でバレるやろって話やし、メィリィと組んでるのは完全にミスリードやと思うわ。ワイもこの説は信じとらん。2ちゃん+7
Myrkrvaldyr
If all that library can offer is seeing people's memories, its usage is very limited. Gotta wonder how they'll recover Rem's memories.
あの図書館が見せるのが他人の記憶だけなら、使い道めっちゃ限られるな。レムの記憶を取り戻す方法が気になるよ。普通くん+26
Kuro_6320
If she has no name and no memory, would killing her create a book? If the answer is no, would killing Gluttony create a book about Gluttony, or would it create a book about each person they've devoured?
せやな…記憶だけ見れる図書室って使い道狭すぎやろ。
で、名前も記憶もないヤツ殺したら本できるんか?
もしできんのやったら、暴食殺したら暴食の本が出るんか?それとも食われた全員分の本が出るんか?
気になりすぎやわ。2ちゃん+7
JJVM99
The main lesson I take from this episode of Re:Zero is that reading is dangerous and should be avoided.
このRe:ゼロの回から学んだ教訓は「読書は危険だから避けるべき」ってことだね普通くん+21
ClemFire
It's a good thing that JJK fans can't read this
せやな、それが一番大事な教訓やなwww
呪術廻戦ファンはこの文読めんからセーフやで2ちゃん+9
Luffyspants
I loved Typon's backstory, literally the personification of twitter on morality
But fr, it's such a simple yet effective example of the kind of impact that kind of extreme mentallity can impact a person's view of the world
And how a system that allows extreme punishment like death can easily turn against everyone for what is deemed "bad"
タイフォンの過去編めっちゃ好き。まさにTwitterの道徳観を具現化した感じだよね
でもマジで、あの極端な考え方が人の世界観にどう影響するかってシンプルだけど効果的な例だと思うし、死刑みたいな極端な罰を認めるシステムが「悪い」とされることに対して簡単に全員に向き直るってのも考えさせられるな普通くん+22
Frontier246
原文
Yeah, why did Flugel...I mean, Subaru make a test that involves knowledge only Subaru, who had never been there before, could solve?
Welcome to the Great Pleaides Library! Home to a LOT of books for you to look through! Provided you can actually read one and the words don't get all jumbled together.
Who could have imagined, though, that Subaru would chance upon the backstory of the Witch of Pride, Typhon? A daughter of an executioner who tried to understand the black/white world of justice that her father tried to instill in her...until she realized true "justice" lay in the heart of people and the best way to balance the scales was to use her Witch Powers to ask if people did Bad Things and break them apart for ANYTHING bad or untoward they may have done. It even killed her father and a WHOLE bunch of people. Wow.
So, yes, the Great Library has books on everyone who has passed away...but you can only read it if you're familiar with them, such as Julius reading about a former general he battled one-on-one. We could get the backstories for ALL the Witches of Sin here. But poor Subaru and Emilia getting season 2 PTSD from being reminded of the graveyard.
Meili just had to make it morbid by thinking of how many of her murder victims are in there...though now she's part of the team so Subaru may as well get her backstory. A child abandoned for her affinity to Mabeasts, who was RAISED by Mabeasts, until she was taken in by her "mom." Although even if Meilie cared about her birth parents, she probably doesn't even know their names to be able to look. I wonder if Elsa's book is in there somewhere?
Much as I would love to peek into the backstories of various historical characters, this is getting them nowhere, so they probably have to take the next exam. And Foxidna susses out that there are some "rules" Shaula has to follow otherwise she'll kill them. They can't leave the tower, they can't damage the tower, they can't defy the test rules, and they can't do anything to harm the library. She acts all cheerful and upbeat about it, but she will be physically compelled to murder them if they violate ANY of this.
Don't be racist against fairies Shaula! Though it does beg the question what she is and how she's lived so long. But don't worry, Meili's got her locked in by the ribbons so they don't have to worry! For now.
I love how Subaru has become such a henpecked husband for Emilia.
Time to race up the stairs to the next exam! Beatrice may have said to stop but her smile said to keep getting princess carried by Subaru all the way!
The next exam involves taking a Heavenly Sword and earning a pardon...from some red-haired, blue-eyed, Astrea Family lookalike voiced by Tomokazu Sugita. Who tells them the test rules...while sleep-talking through a hangover. Whoever this man is, he appreciates "hot chicks," doesn't care for brats or wusses or deference, and immediately freaks Shaula out that she passes out foaming at the mouth. But whoever he is, he's probably far more than just a simple "stick swinger."
Episodes with OP: 2
Episodes with ED: 2
【なんJ民の翻訳】
「なんでフリューゲル…じゃなかったスバルが、来たことないはずの場所の知識がないと解けない試験作ったんや…」
「大図書館へようこそ!本は大量にあるけど読めるかは知らん。文字がグチャグチャにならなきゃな」
「まさか傲慢の魔女タイフォンの過去話が出るとはな。処刑人の娘で『正義』に悩んで結局権能で人を裁きまくって父親も殺したって話…ワロタ」
「つまり死者の本はあるけど、ジュリアスが元将軍の本読めたみたいに知らんと読めんってことか。全魔女の過去見れる可能性あるけどスバルとエミリアは墓地思い出してPTSD発症してそう」
「メィリィが『自分の殺した奴らの本もあるんだ…』って暗いこと言い出すしな。捨てられた魔獣使いの娘が魔獣に育てられた過去…実の親の名前すら知らんから本探せんやろ。エルザの本もあるんかね?」
「歴史上の人物の過去は気になるけど進展ないから次の試験行くしかないンゴ。フォクシドナがシャウラのルール暴くんやが『塔から出るな』『塔壊すな』『試験ルール破るな』『図書館傷つけるな』違反したら殺すって。笑顔で言うけどガチで殺しにくる奴やで」
「妖精差別すんなシャウラ!つか何者だよコイツ。でもメィリィがリボンで拘束してるから2ちゃん+21
PolvoAranha
I don't know who's the new guy. All I know is I already like him.
新キャラ誰か知らんけど、もう好きすぎるッ!感情くん+20
AnusBlaster5000
He called himself a stick swinger and thats how Shaula referred to Reid Astrea, the first sword saint. Just has to be Reid right?
それな!自分で「棒振り回すだけ」とか言っちゃうの、完全にレイド・アストレアじゃん!シャウラが第一剣聖って言ってたし、まじで確定でしょ笑ギャル+14
Accurate_Treat6360
Highlights of this episode
Typhon's backstory.
Subaru & Meili's interaction.
"Stick Swinger" debut.
このエピソードのハイライト!
- タイフォンの過去編エモすぎ
- スバルとメィリィの絡み尊い
- 「棒振り回し屋」初登場で草感情くん+14
Shimmering-Sky
原文
[](/u/Elimin8r) [](/u/HyVana)
- Subaru’s not wrong.
- What the…
- What a striking use of colors.
- Wow this is horrifying.
- Seems like Subaru really is the only one who can read that, hm?
- Oh, nevermind, Julius was able to “read” the book he picked up…
- Wait, does that mean this library might have one on Rem? Unless it’s just for dead people.
- Fair enough…
- Hah.
- A trial with a sword this time, huh…?
- Oh boy.
- HE’S *HUNGOVER*?!
- Hilarious.
- スバルの言う通りだな
- なんだこれ…
- 色使いがすごく印象的だね
- うわ、これは怖い
- やっぱりスバルだけが読めるのか…
- あ、違う、ユリウスが拾った本は"読めて"た
- 待って、つまりこの図書館にレムの本もあるってこと?死者専用じゃなければだけど
- まあそうか
- はっ
- 今度は剣の試練か…
- おやおや
- 二日酔い?!笑える普通くん+16
HyVana
原文
> What the…
Hackers hate this one trick!
> What a striking use of colors.
> Wow this is horrifying.
My favorite scene this episode. Loved the depiction of Typhon's past, and the look of horror on her face when she broke her cup. It's so interesting, and honestly understandable, how Typhon became how she was from her upbringing; a worldview born of two sides: good and evil, life or death. She really took to the extreme the morals her father tried to teach her (not that bringing your child to work, when you're an executioner, is a good idea in the first place lol).
> Wait, does that mean this library might have one on Rem? Unless it’s just for dead people.
In case you're still pondering, it is only of people who had *died.* Idk if the subs you used have said it, but they are called Books of the Dead or 死者の書(ししゃのしょ)in Japanese.
> Hah.
I thought they'd skip over more of the SoL parts of the story, but I'm glad they kept a lot of them! They made it really easy for Shaula to win you over in the anime, with all her faces and mannerisms in motion, than in the novel.
> HE’S HUNGOVER?!
> Hilarious.
Oh I'm so ready to see Re:Zero's cracked-out uncle in motion next episode.
> What the…
ハッカーも真っ青の裏技やんけ!
> What a striking use of colors.
> Wow this is horrifying.
今回のベストシーンやわ。テュフォンの過去描写と、カップ割った時の恐怖に歪む顔がガチで良かった。ああいう育ち方からああなるのは納得できるし面白いわ。善悪・生死の二択しかない世界観、父親から教わった道徳を極限まで突き詰めた結果やろな(つーか処刑人の仕事に子供連れてくのがまずアカンけどなwww)
> Wait, does that mean this library might have one on Rem? Unless it’s just for dead people.
一応言っとくと、死者の本だけやで。「死者の書(ししゃのしょ)」って呼ばれてる。
> Hah.
日常パートもっとカットされるかと思ったけど結構残してくれてて嬉しいわ。小説よりアニメのシャウラは表情や仕草が動きまくってて、一発で心掴まれる仕上がりやった。
> HE’S HUNGOVER?!
> Hilarious.
次回のRe:Zero、酒乱おじさんが動くの楽しみすぎるンゴwww2ちゃん+9
Human_Potato2264
This is a very tiny detail but if i remember right in S3 when Lye was taunting one of the grunts he was fighting against he did say something like "It's not your fault you couldn't protect Meili" or something. Was he her dad?
小さな点だけど、S3でライが戦ってた雑魚キャラに「メィリィを守れなかったのはお前のせいじゃない」みたいなこと言ってなかったっけ?あいつ、メィリィの父親だったのかな。普通くん+15
zackphoenix123
I have the same theory as well. If not her dad, then uncle or something. But they have to be related in some capacity. It'd feel weird if Re:Zero world conveniently just had two Meili's who had nothing to do with each other. And even if they had nothing to do with each other, that still had to have been intentional and something Tappei would touch on later.
同意。俺も同じ考察を抱いてたんだよな。父親じゃなくても叔父とか、何らかの血縁関係があるのは間違いないと思う。Re:Zeroの世界で同名の「メィリィ」が偶然二人存在するってのは不自然すぎるし、仮に無関係だとしても、それは意図的な配置で、後で長月先生が必ず触れてくる伏線だと思われる。考察くん+13
DemonVenreable3011
Meili clinging to Shaula and Subaru carrying Beako at the end is just too adorable
Enjoy those moments before more suffering
メィリィがシャウラにベッタリで、スバルがベア子を抱っこしてるラスト、ガチで可愛すぎやろwww
次の苦難が来る前に、こういう平和な時間を噛み締めとけってね2ちゃん+17
Frontier246
I love how Shaula was helping Meili walk on the shelves like she's her Big Sister playing with her...and then Meili grabs her ribbon to make it clear that she's got Shaula locked down in such a way that a kid totally would lol.
シャウラがメィリィを棚の上で歩かせてあげてるの、まるでお姉ちゃんが遊んでるみたいで可愛すぎるんだよね…で、メィリィがリボン掴んで「離さないもんね」アピールしてるの、子供ならではの仕草で笑ったわ普通くん+16
lordposedyon
Dadadadadadadadadada
草ァ!メィリィがシャウラにベッタリでスバルがベア子おんぶしてるラストとかもう尊死するわwww
この平和が続くと思いたいンゴねぇ…(白目)2ちゃん+11
Narrow_Blueberry4762
Man even set up EP feel great. The backstory was also good.
いやー今回のEPめっちゃ良かったわ。過去編も良かったね。普通くん+17
FlugelTheSage
Typhoon book of the dead was of course the highlight of this episode.
やばっ!タイフーンの死者の書が今回のハイライトすぎるじゃん!まじで泣けるんだけど笑ギャル+12
manofslutywhore
Can we declare meilie and shaula duo the best in re zero? I love meilie voice actor and shaula is "EgxaCTLy" cute. Another build up episode but I loved it. A solid 9.5/10
メイリィとシャウラのコンビをRe:ゼロ最高って宣言してもいい?メイリィの声優めっちゃ好きだし、シャウラはめっちゃ可愛い。また準備回だったけど俺は好きだよ。確実に9.5/10はある。普通くん+15
Not__Trash
Bruh Subaru totally made this tower. They are just layering on that the creator of it is a prick.
Also, seems like Shaula is a Mabeast given the framing of Meili behind her.
I also wonder if Subaru's book is in that library, it'd be really cool if another character could learn about return by death, would it break them? Would Subaru stop them from touching it?
スバルがこの塔を作ったという考察は確かに興味深い。制作者が意地悪な人物だという描写が重ねられている点も、その仮説を補強する要素だと思われる。
また、メィリィが背後でフレームアップされている構図を踏まえると、シャウラは魔獣なのではないかという考察ができる。制作陣の意図が読めるな。
スバルの本が図書館にあるかどうかも気になる。もし別のキャラクターが『死に戻り』を知ったら、その知識に耐えられるのか? スバルが触るのを止めるのか? その展開が来るなら伏線として非常に面白い。考察くん+15
NecroCannon
The books are totally unorganized and he totally isn’t the “I’m going to organize a nearly infinite amount of books” type
First floor seems to have people he needs more readily information of
確かに。本がめちゃくちゃに散らかってて、スバルは「無限に近い量の本を整理するぞ」ってタイプじゃないよね。
1階には、彼がもっと情報を必要としてる人たちがいるっぽいし。普通くん+6
HolyDragSwd2500
Witch of Pride past😱
Judging criminals and shattering them into pieces
Julius will make this guy his lackey instead
傲慢の魔女の過去エグすぎンゴ😱
犯罪者を裁いて粉々にするスタイルやばいわ
ユリウスはこいつを手下にするンゴなあ2ちゃん+11
mobpiecedunchaindan
emilia when she found out what the rules of the watchtower are
えっエミリア、監視塔のルール知った時の顔やばくね!?まじで衝撃すぎじゃん笑ギャル+13
AnusBlaster5000
Ok so clearly thats Reid but he seems like the kind of guy where might makes right. I have no idea what kind of bullshit is going to be needed to convince him to "give them his pardon" but I'd be willing to bet Subaru dies several times trying to figure this out
なるほど、あれはレイドだね。完全に「力こそ正義」ってタイプの奴だな。彼に「許しを与えさせる」のにどんな無茶が必要になるのか全く想像つかないけど、スバルが何度か死にまくるのは間違いなさそう。普通くん+15
FateXBlood
原文
A library where you can see the memories of everyone who has died? That's cool. But that sure does raise a question. Since Subaru has died so many times, is there a book about him?
Also, things got really messy. Anyone who tries to leave without passing will be killed by Shaula? Damn. It's really like the graveyard all over again. I wonder how many times Subaru is going to die here in order to complete all floors.
「死者全員の記憶を閲覧できる図書館」という設定、興味深い考察ができるな。スバルはこれまで何度も死んでいるから、彼に関する本も存在する可能性が高い。これは今後の重要な伏線になるかもしれない。
それにしても、試験を突破せずに塔を出ようとすればシャウラに殺される、というシステムはまさに「墓地」の再来だな。全フロアをクリアするまでに、スバルがここで何度死ぬことになるのか…死に戻りのループ回数がエスカレートしていく展開が予想される。考察くん+13
Shadowmist909
I kind of want to see Meili getting raised by a Mabeast. Sounds like a very interesting childhood.
This new guy already has an imposing vibe, and if he's got Shaula spooked then I'm excited to see Julius attempt to face him head on.
メィリィが魔獣に育てられるって設定、結構見てみたいな。面白そうな幼少期だよね。
新キャラもう威圧感すごいじゃん。シャウラがビビるレベルってことは、ユリウスが正面から挑む展開が楽しみすぎる。普通くん+13
Human_Potato2264
> I kind of want to see Meili getting raised by a Mabeast. Sounds like a very interesting childhood.
This is a very tiny detail but if i remember right in S3 when Lye was taunting one of the grunts he was fighting against he did say something like "It's not your fault you couldn't protect Meili" or something. Was he his dad?
>>魔獣に育てられたメィリィ、見てみたいわ。めっちゃ面白い幼少期になりそう
それな
めっちゃ細かいとこやけどS3でライが戦ってた雑魚に「メィリィを守れなかったのはお前のせいじゃない」みたいなこと言ってなかったっけ?
その雑魚が父親なんか?2ちゃん+12
Frontier246
Meilie is basically Arietta from *Tales of the Abyss.* I feel like her past with her "mom" and Elsa is definitely going to come up again at some point.
メィリィって『テイルズ オブ ジ アビス』のアリエッタみたいな感じだよね。彼女の母親とかエルサとの過去がまたどこかで出てくると思うんだよね。普通くん+7
SopmodTew
Shaula is just too lovable ngl
シャウラ可愛すぎるッ!無理、優勝感情くん+13
ClemFire
Such golden retriever energy
それな!まじでゴールデンレトリバーすぎるじゃん笑 シャウラかわよ!ギャル+11
Arachnophobic-
Well if we're dealing with a person who is probably near (or even exceeds) Reinhard in power I'd say the gang is cooked..
Best case he drinks himself into a stupor on finding out the 'wuss' pulled the radiant baddie
もし相手がラインハルトと同等かそれ以上の力を持ってるなら、もうチームは終わりだな…
せいぜいあのヘタレが超絶美人をゲットしたって知ってヤケ酒するのがオチだわ普通くん+10
Frontier246
Don't worry, everyone in the Astrea Family other than Reinhard's dad loves Subaru!
ガチで草。でもアストレア家はラインハルトの親父以外みんなスバル大好きやからセーフやろwww2ちゃん+10
Roskal
I wondered if the witches were the original owners of their witch factors or if they were just one link in the chain like the archbishops after them. Typhon's backstory certainly implies that her witch factor started with her, she awakened it as a child and its her own power.
魔女たちは元々の魔女因子の持ち主だったのか、それとも後の大罪司教たちみたいに連鎖の一部だったのか気になるな。ティフォンの過去編見ると、彼女の魔女因子は彼女自身から始まったって感じだよね。子供の頃に覚醒してて、自分の力って感じがする。普通くん+9
ankitjad
Reid referring to them each by his own interpretation was funny.. shaula going unconscious Outta fear after seeing him too lol
リードが自分の解釈でそれぞれに呼びまくってるの草しか湧かんかったわ。シャウラが彼見て恐怖で気絶したのもワロタwww2ちゃん+9
JoJo_Nation
This episode was so funny😭
このエピソード面白すぎて笑い死にした😭感情くん+9
baseballlover723
原文
Tagging u/HyVana, u/ussgordoncaptain2 and u/camthegodoflol. If anyone else wants to be added to the tag list, let me know.
It's a good thing we have a librarian who is in need of a library.
This is exactly what I was thinking. If they only intended the person who was able to answer access, then they should have blocked the others from entering.
Nani?! Moving words Actually, this was a big question I had about the Gospel. Cause both Petelgeuse and Beatrice both deliberate points to check their books, despite plausibly already having read them. If the books were dynamic, then that would eternally be a reason to continue checking them. And also function as a future sight object, since it could predict the current future, not the golden future.
These sound like they might originate from Earth. They do sound like Earthean names. Also I wonder if it's the dewey decimal system. I could easily imagine that appearing out of order.
Magic book Not again!
Chess spotted. Typhon?! Was not expecting that
I should add this or that to my removal messages. That will surely keep the source readers in check
That phrasing.
Time to hit the books then Subaru.
Baka Subaru. He deserved this.
Very interesting.
Meili pls. Killing people isn't something to be proud of
Meili not into harems
Meili don't speak it into existence
Well, you got the first half of the pronunciation pretty good.
Damn, Emilia has Subaru well trained.
No More detail onegai
It really is. But at least this time, we're all suffering together.
Subaru gets to be king of the Brits now right?
This was not what I was expecting to happen.
For next episode
【タグ希望者募集中】
図書館が欲しい司書がいてよかったね。
まさにそれ。答えられる人だけ入れる仕組みなら、他の人を入れなくすべきだったのに。
なに?!動く文字?実は福音書についてずっと疑問だったんだ。ペテルギウスもベアトリスも、もう読んでるはずなのにわざわざ確認するために本を見てた。もし本が動的に変化するなら、ずっと確認し続ける理由になるし、未来予知としても機能する。現在の未来を予測するのであって、黄金の未来じゃない。
地球由来っぽい名前だな。あと十進分類法かな?順番通りじゃなくても不思議じゃない。
魔法の本かよ。またかよ!
チェス発見。ティフォン?!予想外だったわ。
削除メッセージにこれ追加しよう。原作勢の暴走を防げるはず。
その言い回し。
じゃあ本を読み漁る時だな、スバル。
バカスバル。自業自得だわ。
面白い。
メィリィやめて。人殺しは誇れることじゃないぞ。
メィリィはハーレムに興味なし。
メィリィ、それを現実にしないで。
発音の前半は結構合ってたな。
エミリア、スバルをしっかり調教してるな。
もっと詳細お願い。
本当にそう。でも今回はみんなで一緒に苦しんでるからマシだ。
スバルがイギリス王になるのか?
こんな展開予想してなかった。
次回予告普通くん+10
HyVana
原文
> It's a good thing we have a librarian who is in need of a library.
"Yeah, I know we made a contract and all, but do you *see* the size of this place, kashira?!"
> Actually, this was a big question I had about the Gospel.
Yup, I also think the same! I think the fact that they change as time goes on creates a dependence for the owners, as we've seen throughout the series with Roswaal, Beatrice, and Petelgeuse. Also just emphasizes why the Emilia-camp is tolerant of Roswaal's presence, other than the fact that they need him for the Royal Selection, since he no longer has his guiding star Not-gospel Gospel. ~~Can't just ask ChatGPT for answers anymore. Tsk tsk~~
> I should add this or that to my removal messages.
Imagine just getting a jpg of these in your DMs is soooo funny. Please do it for the *bit.*
> Meili pls.
> Meili
Just a cheeky and curious little girl, who sic'd her beasts on many unfortunate people!
> This was not what I was expecting to happen.
We've been missing a crazy, drunk uncle in Re:Zero (Heinkel is too depressing to match the archetype I'm thinking), and I think we've finally got one.
> 図書館を必要としている司書がいてよかった
「そう、契約はしたけどさ。この広さ、見てる?かしら!」
> 福音書についての疑問
同意だ。時間経過で変化する福音書は、使用者に依存性を生む構造だと思われる。ロズワール、ベアトリス、ペテルギウスと作中を通して確認できる。また、エミリア陣営がロズワールを許容する理由として、王選の必要性だけでなく、彼がもはや「ガイド役の福音書」を持たない点も挙げられる。~~ChatGPTで答えを聞けなくなったからね。ちっちっ~~
> 削除メッセージにこれを追加しよう
DMでこんなjpgが送られてくるのを想像すると笑える。ネタでやってみてほしい。
> メィリィ、お願い
> メィリィ
ただの生意気で好奇心旺盛な少女が、多くの不幸な人々に魔獣をけしかけてきたという考察ができる。
> これは予想外だった
Re:Zeroには狂った酔っ払いおじさんが足りなかった(ハインケルは暗すぎてそのアーキタイプに合わない)。ついに登場したと思われる。考察くん+5
JakefromPC
Witch lore good.
魔女教の設定エモすぎるッ!最高!感情くん+9
jiboxiake
Lovely episode. Emilia and Shaula are both so cute. Lucky guy Subaru.
やばくね!?今回の話まじで最高だったじゃん!!エミリアもシャウラも可愛すぎでしょ〜てかスバルくんマジでチートだわ笑ギャル+8
2kenzhe
原文
Ok, we got the library of the dead where you can read or rather experience the lives of the dead but only if you knew the person it seems? Subaru due to the witch graveyard meeting the witches he can even read the memories of dead witches from 400 years ago. This ep he read Typhon the witch of pride's life. Julius also read/experienced Balleroy Temeglyph's life. Apparently, he's someone Julius fought before and a former general of the empire.
Now idk if this has been answered but like if Julius's name got erased when he experiences someone's life would they contain him? I would think not then right cuz his name got erased. Like normally, Julius should experience Balleroy fighting Julius but since Julius got his name erased, would he still experience/see that or would he not because his name got erased?
We also learn some other things: Shaula isn't a spirit and she'll turn into a killing machine if they break the rules. Fox dona guessed 5 rules, but according to Shaula, there are only 4. Basically, they can't leave until they clear the tower and don't do anything bad to the tower.
Cool to see Emilia actually being the one who figures out the way to the 2nd trial/next floor. If like Subaru said Flugel/the person who made the trials is a nasty person then they would place the stairs in a previous place they've already been to. Thank god they didn't have to search the endless library for the stairs, thanks to Emilia.
Next ep I guess stick swinger vs Julius and rest of group? Also another question he keeps mentioning Julius acts like his follower whatever do we have any idea who that is? Probably not important but just wondering.
Really liked how cute and funny Shaula was this ep. Poor girl passed out at the end lol.
Also, an interesting question by Meili if one of them died, would a book of them pop up right away or something?
草、死者図書館キター!
知ってる奴限定で死者の人生を追体験できるってわけか。
スバルは魔女の墓場で会ったから400年前の魔女タイフォンの記憶も読めるってわけやな。
ユリウスもバレロイって帝国の元将軍の人生を追体験してるけど、これ名前消された状態だとどうなんやろな?
本来ならバレロイがユリウスと戦うシーンがあるはずやけど、名前消えてるからその記憶も消えるんか?
シャウラは精霊じゃなくて、ルール破ると殺戮マシーンになるらしい。
フォックスドーナは5つのルール予想したけど実際は4つだけやった。
塔をクリアするまで出られない&塔に悪さするなって条件らしい。
エミリアが階段見つけたの地味に偉いわ。
スバルが言うとおり、フリューゲルって奴が意地悪なら前に通った場所に階段隠すやろしな。
無限図書館探さなくて済んで助かったわ。
次回は棒振り回す奴 vs ユリウスたちか?
あとユリウスを「従者」扱いする奴が気になるけど、多分どうでもいいか。
シャウラ可愛すぎて草生えたわ。
最後に気絶しててワロタwww
メィリィの「誰か死んだら即座に本が出現するのか?」って質問も興味深いな。2ちゃん+9
Cross_Toss
Theory: If the library is based on IRL myths, then red-head is Lancelot (sword in the stone created world so Arthurian, and swinging a stick like Lancelot did in one of his stories) and the test is for the Arthur stand-in (either Subaru who pulled out the sword or just whever is wielding it) to forgive him (for his affair maybe? or for killing knights when going to rescue Gwenevere?).
なるほど。図書館が実在の神話に基づいてるなら、赤毛のやつはランスロット(剣が岩に刺さってる世界=アーサー王伝説だし、棒を振るう仕草もランスロットの逸話に似てる)で、試練はアーサー役(剣を抜いたスバルか、それを使う誰か)に彼を許させることなのかもね(不倫の件?それともグウェネヴィア救出時に騎士を殺したこと?)。普通くん+9
Numan_1v9
Crunchyroll at it again with all those mistranslations...
やばくね!?またCrunchyrollが翻訳ミス連発してるんだけど笑 まじでどうにかしてほしいわ〜ギャル+11
CappyHam
I've watched enough Gintama to recognize that boisterous drunk voice anywhere, Sugita-san!!!! Voicing another trash stick swinger again. Is this type casting? He really does voice a lot of trashy characters huh.
ギンタマ見てたら分かるわ、あの酔っ払いみたいな声は杉田さんやんけ!!!! またゴミ棒振り回す役かよwww これタイプキャストやろ。ホンマにクズキャラばっか声当ててんな杉田ンゴwww2ちゃん+8
Eunuchest
原文
Interesting insight into Typhon's backstory. Didnt expect her to get a cameo
Yep this library is a pain in the ass
Shaula is way too casual talking about turning into a killing machine and offing subaru
It was pretty funny Shaula getting the itches lying about how nice Flugel was
I dont get how emilia figured out the staircase problem. Feels like the answer was way too condensed
Shaula just completely lost her shit on red haired drunk
Red hair, connection to a sword and shaula talking about someone she hates in the last episode. Should be obvious who this is
ティフォンの過去話、興味深い考察ができるな。まさかカメオ出演があるとは思わなかった。
そう、この図書館は本当に厄介な伏線の塊だな。
シャウラが殺戮兵器になってスバルを始末するって話を軽く言うのは、彼女のキャラクター性を考えると興味深い。普段の陽気さと裏腹に、彼女の中には何か深い設定が隠されている可能性がある。
シャウラがフリューゲルの良さを偽ってかゆくなってたのは笑えた。あれ、彼女の本心と矛盾してるからこそ面白いんだよな。
エミリアが階段問題をどう解いたか、正直納得いかない。答えが凝縮されすぎてて、視聴者には飛躍しすぎた推理に感じる。
シャウラが赤毛の酔っ払いに完全にキレ散らかしてたな。
赤毛、剣との繋がり、そして前回シャウラが憎んでる相手について話してたことを踏まえると、誰のことかは明白だ。考察するまでもないな。考察くん+9
MokonaModokiES
Previous episode made it clear Emilia is the type to bruteforce stuff so i imagine when they failed at the trial she started looking around for other places and noticed those places.
確かに、前回のエピソードでエミリアが力押しタイプってはっきりしたよね。試練に失敗した後、別の場所を探し回ってあれを見つけたんだろうな。普通くん+5
GosuGian
So that guy is the first Sword Saint?
えっ、あの人って初代剣聖なの!?やばくね!?ギャル+7
ShadowGuyinRealLife
原文
I wonder what the point of confusing text on the Books of the Dead are. If they can only be read correctly by the correct people, why not just appear blank to the wrong ones? Also if you need to know the person to get any information from the achieve, the library is not nearly the information bonanza it was sold as. Long dead people won't have any who can read those books. The library probably will be useful, but the easy info I thought would be possible just isn't there.
Meli is right to not really care about her biological parents. She never knew them. It's why I always find it weird how some adoptive children try to reach out to their biological parents. If my only interaction with my mother was popping out and then being given to someone else, I'd consider them a stranger, no different than the millions of fellow countrymen.
The Library must have some space magic to keep expanding. There is no way all the books will fit given the external size of the Watchtower. Unless books that have no one, who can read them are culled.
Do you think they will be able to make use of the Library outside this arc? I feel like they're going to use it to get past this and then not bother. Since the nature of the Library means there is a limited pool of readable books.
What happened to Rule 5? Anastasia/Foxidna was picked the number for a reason. I feel it's odd it was just dropped.
Subaru... you still don't get how important promises are to Emillia? Didn't we go over this already Season 1? For that matter even if *formal* contracts were something you never had to deal with in Japan, informal promises are something you have to be familiar with right? Even by anime-only logic you should know.
That Red haired guy is Reid right? I mean going by the trend of Kaguya-Sama, Lucky Star, Naruto, Demon Slayer, Pretty Cure, Space Patrol Luluco, and especially Yu-Gi-Oh this guy has to be related to Reinhard. And given Shaula's reaction, I bet this is accurate.
死者の書の文字が混乱させる理由がよくわからないな。正しい人だけが読めるなら、間違った人には空白に見えればいいのに。それに、その人を知らないと情報を得られないなら、図書館は思ったほど情報の宝庫じゃないよね。昔の人の本はもう読める人がいないし。便利ではあるんだろうけど、俺が考えてたような簡単な情報はそこにはないってことか。
メィリィが実の親に興味ないのは正しいよ。会ったこともないんだから。養子が実親を探そうとするのはいつも不思議に思う。母親との唯一の関わりが産んで他人に預けただけなら、ただの他人だよ。何百万人もいる同胞と同じで。
図書館には空間魔法みたいなものがあるんだろうな。監視塔の外観からすると、あんなに本が入るわけないし。読める人がいない本は処分されてるのかも。
この章の後も図書館を使うと思う?多分これで切り抜けて、その後は使わない気がする。読める本が限られてるって性質上ね。
ルール5はどうなったんだ?アナスタシア/フォクシドナにはちゃんと番号が割り当てられてたのに。急に無視されたのは変だな。
スバル…まだエミリアにとって約束がどれだけ大事かわかってないの?シーズン1でやっただろ?そもそも日本で正式な契約を結ぶ機会がなくても、暗黙の約束くらいは理解してるはずだよね。アニメだけ見ててもわかるだろ。
あの赤い髪の奴はライドだろ?かぐや普通くん+8
Blazin_Rathalos
> What happened to Rule 5? Anastasia/Foxidna was picked the number for a reason. I feel it's odd it was just dropped.
Chekov's 5th rule I'm sure. Maybe by the same contract she's unable to talk about it or even admit it exists?
確かに、アナスタシア=フォクシドナの件、ルール5が突然放置されたのは不自然だな。チェーホフのルール的に、後々重要になる伏線だと思う。もしかすると、彼女自身が契約でそのルールについて語れない、存在すら認められない状態なのかもしれない。死の書の解読不能な文字も、同じ仕組みで制限されている可能性がある。考察くん+5
FLorianGran
Lotta references to season 2 events, which makes sense considering so far we're closer to that in tone compared to season 3
確かに第2期の要素が多く出てきてるね。第3期より第2期に近い雰囲気だから、納得の展開だと思う普通くん+6
laughtale0
That's definitely the old sword saint that Shaula was so scared of.
やばっ!それって間違いなくシャウラがめっちゃビビってた古の剣聖じゃん!?ギャル+7
CarioGod
what a random place to find typhon again
no OP and ED this episode, probably because most of it was dialogue but still peak comedy and worldbuilding as always
マジでタイフォンがこんなとこで再登場するとは思わなかったわッ!
今回OPとEDなかったけど、ほぼ会話パートだったからかな。でも相変わらずコメディも世界観も最高すぎる!感情くん+6
garfe
Lmao, we are never hearing that OP and ED again
Is that really Sugita as Reid? It sounds nothing like any of his previous roles.
草、もうあのOPとED二度と聴けねえわ
ライドって杉田なの?今までの役と全然声違うやんwww2ちゃん+5
GroundbreakingBake2
Typhon turning everything to ash reminded me of the beginning of expedition 33. Really cool scene.
やばっ!タイフォンが全部灰にしちゃうとこ、エクスペディション33の最初思い出させるじゃん!めっちゃカッコよかったんだけど!ギャル+5
CracksOfIce
I mean, if this guy's a Sword Saint (as hinted by Shaula calling Reid "stick swinger" last episode) Julius is cooked, no?
待って待って待って!もしこの男が剣聖レイド本人だったら(前回シャウラが「棒振り回し野郎」って呼んでたから確定っぽい)、ユリウス完全に詰んでない!?無理すぎるだろッ!感情くん+6
United-Function6229
Being the Sword Saint does not mean you are necessarily unbeatable, for example we know Wilhelm managed to defeat Theresia when she was still the sword saint. So it is possible for a "normal" swordsman to defeat the swords saint. However given what Shaula told us about Reid last episode, Julius probably will not fair well.
確かに剣聖だからって絶対無敵ってわけじゃないよね。ヴィルヘルムがテレシアに勝った例もあるし。でもシャウラが言ってたライ先生の強さを考えると、ユリウスは厳しい戦いになりそうだな。普通くん+6
Viktorv22
Goddamn animators love Shaula so much lol
Same, totally same. She looks and sounds just *perfect*
ガチでアニメーターどもシャウラに愛ありすぎやろ草
せやな、完全に同意や。見た目も声も*完璧*すぎてワイ鼻血出そうやんwww2ちゃん+6
RFShahrear
Oh no, it's Maple.
やばっ、メイプル来ちゃったじゃん!ギャル+5
Shot_Pineapple5521
Genuinely they choose the best dub cast imaginable. Brat brat follower wuss
ガチで最高の吹き替えキャスト選んだやろ。クソガキの腰抜け信者やんけwww2ちゃん+5
DoseofDhillon
Some decent interactions and lore dumps but not too much happened this episode. The only thing that felt like it grew on the story was the last bit
確かに今回は会話や設定の情報は多かったけど、話自体はあんまり進まなかったな…。最後のシーンだけが唯一ストーリーが動いた感じでしょ。ちょっと消化不良気味ッ!感情くん+5
Raymond49090
Man, Witch's sure are detached from normal human thinking. How does she learn "you can be forgiven if your crime was small and you apologize" and reach the conclusion "I should murder everyone who feels mildly guilty about anything"?
魔女ってやっぱ人間の思考とずれてるよな。「小さな罪なら謝れば許される」って学んで、なんで「ちょっとでも罪悪感ある奴は全員殺せばいい」って結論になるんだよ。普通くん+5
WS_Eule
A fun little detail that I noticed: Anastasia/Foxidna was the only one holding the book right-to-left which makes sense given that she's from Kararagi which seems to have adapted a lot of Japanese culture.
せやな、ワイも気づいたわ。アナスタシア(フォクシドナ)だけ本を右から左に持ってるンゴwww カララギは日本文化めっちゃ取り入れてるから納得やわ2ちゃん+5
BIGFriv
Tje only thing that makes it hard for me to fully believe this, s that I can't see Subaru abandoning someone in a tower alone for 400 years. Especially after what Beako went through.
Would he want to inflict that pain on someone?
確かにその指摘は鋭い。スバルがベアトリスを400年孤独に閉じ込めた経験を経ているからこそ、同じ苦しみを誰かに与えるとは考えにくい。この矛盾点を考慮すると、何か別の事情が隠れている可能性が高い。シャウラが「お師様」と呼ぶ存在が本当にスバル本人なのか、あるいは別の人物が賢者の役割を継いだのか——その辺りの伏線が今後の鍵になると思われる。考察くん+8
Methodizee
This whole place seems so obviously made my subaru from the future but also the past somehow and this “stick swinger” looks like rein if he turned alcoholic so maybe it’s an alternate version of him or an ancestor or maybe future relative
この場所、明らかに未来のスバルが作ったっぽいけど過去の要素も混ざってて意味わからんンゴwww
で、その「棒振り回すやつ」、アル中になったラインハルトみたいな見た目やん。
つまりパラレル版かご先祖、あるいは未来の親戚とかちゃう?2ちゃん+5
Adventurous-Let3046
I can’t help but feel like the happy feel good moments will cost us 10 fold of incoming pain and suffering
わかるッ…今の幸せなシーン、絶対あとで10倍返しの苦しみが来るやつだこれッ!しんどすぎる…感情くん+6
Usodearu007
that backstory about Typhon the witch of pride somehow makes the witch of envy seem even scarier than she already is. the tower was built to seal her so i have a very bad feeling about the first floor. the last exam will probably not be very nice to subaru..
傲慢の魔女タイフォンの過去エピソード見てたら、嫉妬の魔女がさらに怖くなったンゴwww
塔はその封印のために建てられたってワケか…1階はマジでヤバそうやな
最後の試験、スバルには絶対優しくないやろな…😅2ちゃん+5
Karthull
原文
I really really hope the time travel theory is a red herring and that Flugel and Satella are not an older Subaru and Emilia who went 400 years into the past. It will probably be somewhere near the final arc that we find out for sure either way but I really want Flugel to just be a different isekaied person who I guess could see the future or sumthin. Same goes for Al, I hope he doesn’t turn out to be a different timeline Subaru like some people have speculated.
タイムトラベル説はただのミスリードであってほしいな。フリューゲルとサテラが400年前に飛ばされた年老いたスバルとエミリアって展開はちょっと…。最終決戦近くで真実が明かされるんだろうけど、フリューゲルはただの未来予知ができる別の異世界転移者であってほしい。アルに関しても、別タイムラインのスバルって説はやめてほしいな。普通くん+5