黄泉のツガイ

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家族と友
殺された祈祷師とそのツガイの本尊を埋める「墓掘り」の仕事を終えたハナは、祈祷師の腹に刻まれていたユル宛ての伝言を“独り言”としてデラに伝えるのだった。
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Myrkrvaldyr
The new tsugai look like aliens and they're dressed in black suits. You just know they're a walking reference to Men in Black. The alien language cracked me up.
新しいツガイ、宇宙人みたいで黒スーツ着てるし、完全にMen in Blackネタじゃん。宇宙語もめっちゃ笑った。普通くん
globalactor
The female one even looks like Tessa Thompson when wearing the disguise
女の方、変装してるとTessa Thompsonにまで見えるのヤバいッ!感情くん
garmzai
There's also a pug in MiB
MiBにもパグがおるでござる。武士
gsurfer04
Frank!
Frank!普通くん
otanthalion
Omg i missed that!
え、まじ!?それ見逃してたんだけど!ギャル
Sweet_Tangerine6674
whos agent J?
Agent Jって誰や?2ちゃん
lordofdnorth
got cancelled
打ち切られたのか普通くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
I didn’t think Danji was a daemon and kind of an adorable one at that. But man, not a single person in the village was on the level with Yuru. He’s been lied to by people he thought were his friends and family his entire life…
Danjiがツガイだったとは意外だし、妙に可愛い。村人全員がYuruに嘘をついてたわけで、家族や友人考察くん
Myrkrvaldyr
Can't blame him for snapping. He's usually cool-headed but finding out everyone deceived you is a bitter pill to swallow. He would've lived a happier life if his parents had managed to get him out with his sister.
彼がキレたのも責められないな。普段は冷静でも、全員に騙されてたと知るのはきつい。妹と逃げられてたら、もっと幸せだったろうに。ドライおじ
potatojayy
Basically a shonen of The Truman Show
要するに少年漫画版The Truman Showって感じだね普通くん
lordposedyon
In case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and good night.
会えない時のために…こんにちは、こんばんは、そしておやすみ。感情くん
RimeSkeem
I'm really curious to see how this plays out for Yuru if (likely when) he reunites with his parent(s). Arakawa is generally good about playing out the consequences of her characters' actions, regardless of their intentions. Despite Yuru knowing that his parents didn't want to abandon him, the more he learns about the situation that he was left in the more hits his emotions will take.
Yuruが親と再会した時どう動くか気になる。Arakawaは行動の代償を描くのが上手い。知るほど心の傷が増える構図だと思う。考察くん
Namaryu
Now that Yuru knows both Fake Asa and Danji were ordered to deceive him he would not have any reason to go fight Ivan but he apprehended Azami, which is the ONLY person from that village who did not lie to him and may be a simple collateral damage in all that.
YuruはFake AsaとDanjiが命令で自分を騙してたと知った今、Ivanと戦う理由はないはず。でもAzamiを捕まえた。村で唯一嘘をついてない人で、ただ巻き込まれただけかもなのに。普通くん
Myrkrvaldyr
I think he may still come to save her if only to get answers out of her, or maybe because her pair will beg Yuru for help. But yeah, the little girl would be the main reason to go help.
答え聞き出すために助けに来るかもだし、彼女のツガイがYuruに頼むかも。でも一番の理由はあの少女じゃん!ギャル
nofaxxspitintruflego
i dont think yuru is done with either of them, danji nor fake asa ofc he's pissed but im certain he'll patch things up with danji and probably even fake asa esp since now he's in more danger than he's ever been before that'll show u who's worthy of being close and who's not
YuruはDanjiともfake Asaとも終わらないと思う。怒りは当然だが、今の危機で誰が近くにいるべきか見考察くん
bgarend
Surprised the other kids in the village who can't see daemons never told him
村の他の子たち、ツガイ見えないのに彼に一回も言わなかったの、まじ意外なんだけど!ギャル
RedAlkaline
remember, daemons can make themselves visible if they want to
覚えておくでござる、デーモンは望めば姿を見せられるのでござる。武士
CatL1f3
Yeah, after all Yuru himself could see Danji the whole time but he couldn't see Daemons until he touched L/R's rock if I remember correctly
だよね!結局YuruはずっとDanjiが見えてたけど、たしかL/Rの石に触るまでDaemonsは見えなかったはず…!感情くん
dude_1818
If you remember episode 1, not a single adult acknowledged Danji when he and Yuru were walking back to the village. Yuru might just be a little dense
1話覚えてるなら、DanjiとYuruが村戻る時、大人誰もDanjiに反応してなかったやん。Yuruちょい鈍いんちゃうかw2ちゃん
Parodizer1
people called it last week but I certainly didn't. It's understandable why after everything he's been through, Yuru would snap at this point.
先週から予想してた人いたけど、俺は全然だった。あれだけ色々あったら、ここでYuruがキレるのも分かる。普通くん
juicy_jonny
Yeah with how mad he was and him holding the bow and arrow throughout the scene I was worried that he would snap and kill Danji right then and there
うん、あのキレ方でずっと弓矢持ってたから、まじでその場でブチギレてDanji殺しちゃうんじゃって心配だったんだけど…ギャル
froggyc19
What I don't understand is why they didn't just raise him with awareness to all of it. If you do it from birth, the kid will most likely be loyal to the village and you won't have to sneak around and lie all the time.
なんで最初から全部教えて育てなかったんだろう。生まれた時からなら村に忠誠心持つだろうし、嘘つく必要もなかったじゃん。普通くん
ichigosr5
Because his parent were clearly not okay with what the village was doing, and Yuru's father was a skilled hunter. This is why the village had people pose as "bandits" to try to kill Yuru when he was a kid.
親は村のやり方に反対やったし、Yuruの父は腕利き猟師。だから村は“山賊”装わせてガキのYuruを殺そうとしたんやろ。2ちゃん
gamria
Makes you wonder what past cases were like
過去の事例がどんな感じだったのか気になるね普通くん
otanthalion
Was wonderig why in the episode before they didnt show him floating in the air flying past cars lol
てか前の話で、なんで彼が宙に浮いて車の横を飛んでくとこ見せなかったんだろって思ってた笑ギャル
saga999
Yeah. I believe Danji is 100% genuine with the friendship. But that hardly makes it easier for Yuru to swallow the fact that everyone around him were lying and spying on him.
そうだね。Danjiの友情は本物だと思う。でも周り全員が嘘ついて監視してた事実を、Yuruが受け入れやすくなるわけじゃない。普通くん
FarCritical
There are a ton of cool daemons but I think we just met the sole candidate for best master lol. Something about learning the best friend you grew up with was a paid actor that feels more world-shattering than your literal world shattering. Yuru's rage was raw but like, I get it.
カッコいいツガイ多いけど、ベスト主候補に会った感あるわ草。幼なじみの親友が雇われ役者とか世界崩壊より脳破壊やろ。Yuruのブチギレも分かる。2ちゃん
diacewrb
Poor guy has truly entered the Truman Show phase.
かわいそうに、完全にトゥルーマン・ショー状態に入っちゃったな。普通くん
CosmicDestructor
It's much worse. Most of the people around him wanted to use him. By killing him once. He's basically a big fat cow everyone was hoping to cash in some day.
事態はさらに禍々しいのだ。周囲の大半は彼を一度殺して利用する気だった。皆がいつか換金を狙う肥えた牛同然なのだ。中二病
Mundology
His parents were right to get out of that village after all
結局、あの村から出た両親が正解だったじゃん!ギャル
Aesclypius
I can see you thinking that, but... did the show confirm that to be the case? I don't know that we understand the motivations for either the Kagemori or the Higashi. I'm hoping the people he knows, at least, are well intentioned, even if many of them disagree.
そう思うのも分かるけど…作中で確定してたっけ?KagemoriもHigashiも動機はまだ不明だし、彼の知り合いくらいは善意であってほしいな。普通くん
TriTexh
It was made explicitly clear in one of the episodes that Higashi village wanted to use Seal and Break for world domination
ある回で、Higashi villageはSeal and Breakを世界征服に使う気だって明言されてたろwwwwおじ
Eunuchest
sole candidate for best master Yeah Frank the remoolian
最優秀マスター候補は一択だね。そう、レムーリアンのFrank。普通くん
Ashteron
There are a ton of cool daemons but I think we just met the sole candidate for best master lol. They should befriend Enkidu and his master.
魅力的なツガイは数多あれど、最良の主たる唯一の候補に出会った気がするのだ笑 Enkiduとその主とも盟を結ぶべきだ。中二病
ThatFart5YearsAgo
But then they'd have to deal with zasshu
でもそれだと、zasshuの相手もしなきゃいけないじゃん普通くん
otanthalion
Even worse since Danji has no way at all to defend himself since yuru had the same aort 0f familial connection with the fake Asa, you cant just say "i was just there to be your friend, im not spying on you" But now that makes the look the Granny gave her make a lot more sense becuase i was wondering why she let tbe daemon leave for a while now.
ダンジには弁明の余地が全くないのがさらに酷いんだよな。ユルも偽アサと同じような家族的な繋がりを持ってたわけで、「ただ友達でいたかっただけ、スパイしてたわけじゃない」なんて言えない。でもこれで婆さんがユルに向けた視線の意味がしっくりくる。なぜ婆さんがあのダエモンをしばらく放置してたのか疑問だったんだよな、という考察ができる。考察くん
mekerpan
So -- one wonders what was Kyoka's game? Protecting Granny and Yuru -- or something else?
で、Kyokaは何を企んでたんだろうなw GrannyとYuruを守るため?それとも別の何か?wwwwおじ
Jack_KH
Here people got an answer to a question many asked last week. It wasn't a mistake, it was foreshadowing.
先週みんなが気にしてた疑問、ここで答えが出たね。ミスじゃなくて伏線だったんだ。普通くん
Namaryu
You're talking about the fact that noone saw a flying dude on a hightway right?
高速道路で空飛んでる男を誰も見てないって話してるんだよね?まじそれでしょ?ギャル
Jack_KH
That's right
それな普通くん
Eunuchest
I wouldnt call it foreshadowing tbh. It was a blatant twist. We have no reason to suspect Danji was a daemon just because faceless passerbys in the highway didnt react for the same reason we saw no one react to Yuru being dragged across the sky by Left and Right
正直伏線とは言わんわ。露骨なひねりやろ。高速のモブが無反応でもDanjiがdaemonって疑う理由ないやん。Yuruの時もそうやし。2ちゃん
Jack_KH
Yuru was dragged high in the sky at night. Plus daemons really did not have shadows in this show.
夜にYuruが空高く引きずられてた。あとこの作品のdaemons、本当に影がないんだね。普通くん
gamria
Yep, since the very beginning source readers were all on the lookout to check how all the Daemons were drawn, how much shadowing they have in anticipation for this twist. Especially Danji of course.
せやな、最初から原作勢はこの展開見越して、Daemonsの描かれ方や影の付き具合ずっと見てたわ。特にDanjiな。2ちゃん
Zealroth
You'd also think that just like fake Asa, he'd give up the charade to help defend Yuru from the Kagemoris so they don't nab him.
偽Asaみたいに、彼も芝居をやめてYuruがKagemorisに捕まらないよう守ると思うよね。普通くん
GrumpySatan
I'd argue that is what makes it good foreshadowing, it plays on the norms/expectations of the audience to make it more subtle. The best foreshadowing always creates 'other explanations' for the clues. They even brought up concerns about Yuru being seen before and people noticing when Daemons made things weird in the first cour.
むしろそこが良い伏線だという考察ができる。観客の定番認識を利用して隠し、1クール目のYuru目撃やDaemonsの異変も別解にしてた。考察くん
Thomas_JCG
It was foreshadowed even before that because we knew the pair for Fake Asa was somewhere else and Danji could see Oshirasama.
それ以前から伏線あったよね!Fake Asaのツガイは別にいるって分かってたし、DanjiはOshirasama見えてたし!感情くん
HornedTurtle1212
There also were not a lot of people fleshed out in the village. The only other villagers I can think of are the chief that Fake Asa was protecting, Denji's mom, and the orphaned girl. I'm kinda tempted to go back to episode 1 to check to see if Denni is depicted with a shadow or not.
村で掘り下げられた人も少なかったよね。Fake Asaが守ってた村長、Denjiの母親、孤児の少女くらい。Denniに影があったか1話見返したい。普通くん
tweetthebirdy
You should! In the manga, he was never drawn with a shadow.
見るべきや!原作だとあいつ、影つきで描かれたこと一度もないんやで。2ちゃん
GerbilJuggler
原文
I went back to episode 1 and Danji has a shadow... but not all the time lol. Whether it's on purpose or not, or just errors (and if so, might be fixed on bluray), it's inconsistent. Even Yuru at times doesn't have a shadow, and so don't a bunch of the villagers. Sure, Danji showed he could control when to show shadows, but still. Here are some examples: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5
1話見返したらDanji、影ある時とない時があって笑った。意図かミスか不明だけどブレてる。Yuruや村人も影ない場面あるし、Blu-rayで直るかも。普通くん
CosmicDestructor
Many people already theorised this much last week. If people can guess it before it's revealed, it's decent foreshadowing.
先週の時点で結構みんな予想してたやん。明かされる前に察せるなら、伏線としては普通に上手いわ。2ちゃん
CrimeFightingScience
Love that this series takes all these things into account. Excellent writing/directing. I noticed all these things and kinda handwaved it, "eh other shows do it, dont be too critical." But nope, I too am a master hunter 👀 jk.
こういう細部まで全部拾ってるの好き。脚本・演出が見事。つまり俺も名狩人という考察ができる👀冗談。考察くん
DragonPup
It wasn't foreshadowing, daemons don't have shadows to fore.
伏線じゃないっしょ、daemonsってそもそも影ないから“foreshadow”できないじゃん笑ギャル
Holen7
The "Kagemori" name is really interesting after this episode. And is "foreshadowing" a pun?
今回の話の後だと「Kagemori」って名前めっちゃ気になるな。あと“foreshadowing”ってダジャレ?普通くん
gamria
See, whilst Kagemori / 影森 literally means "shadow forest", mori also puns with 守り for "protector". What should we see the clan as, a forest of shady shadows or protectors from among the shadows? Fitting given the theme of duality, no?
「影森」は直訳なら“影の森”だが、「森」は「守り」とも掛かる。怪しい影の森か、影に潜む守護者か。二面性テーマの伏線だと思われる。考察くん
diacewrb
But he forgot produce his shadow. Drivers would think to have their eyes tested if they saw a human shaped shadow flying along the roads.
でも影を出すの忘れてるじゃん!道路を人型の影が飛んでたら、運転手みんな目の検査行くわw感情くん
Jack_KH
I think he forgot to put down his shadow on the highway too.
あいつ高速道路にも影置き忘れてきたんちゃうかw2ちゃん
MakeMineMarvel_
as a daemon he is naturally invisible to people who cant see them, he can choose to be visible to normal humans
デーモンだから、見えない人には基本見えないけど、普通の人間にも見えるようにはできるんだね。普通くん
Aileos
Expect a cool reunion with two bros. Was hit by a hammer with the twist instead.
兄弟の熱い再会くると思ったら、どんでん返しにハンマーで殴られた気分やわ。2ちゃん
HolyDragSwd2500
I was afraid Yoru was going to point an arrow at Danji when he revealed as Tsugai and everything else
DanjiがTsugaiって明かされた時、Yoruが矢を向けるんじゃってまじヒヤヒヤしたんだけど!ギャル
CosmicDestructor
The fact that he didn't speaks a lot about how much Yuru trusted the guy. Perhaps still does.
それをしなかっただけで、Yuruがそいつをどれだけ信頼してたか分かる。今もそうなのかも。普通くん
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
Ken's literally all of us trying to protect wildlife from Yuru and Yuru from becoming a criminal. Easily the most relatable one of the bunch and he's absolutely correct in his assessment that Yuru is in need of a parent figure more than anything else right now. Yuru has way too many guardian figures surrounding him, but they clearly lack the morality and emotional bond to truly be able to set him straight. Ken is such a breath of fresh air in this cutthroat/manipulative world for real. Ironic that Ken might just be the actual treasure that needs protecting in this series chock full of cold blooded killers
Ken、野生動物をYuruから守りつつ犯罪化も止めるワイらやん。今のYuruに必要なのは守護者より親。Kenこそ守るべき宝説あるわ。2ちゃん
gamria
The funny thing is at first you thought Dera and Hana were already filling in the role of getting Yuru adjusted to how the Lowlands/modern world functions and its standards. Until you realise they are too underworld-coded to do that properly. And thus do we have Ken, an actual normal modern boy with common sense and reasonable standards, closer in age to Yuru and in mindset to the audience too.
最初はDeraとHanaがYuruに現代の常識を教える役かと思ったら、2人とも黄泉寄りすぎて笑う。だから常識ある現代っ子のKenが必要なんだね。普通くん
Ebirah
Yuru is in need of a parent figure more than anything else right now He is actually looking for his parents right now, as it happens. It's just that he keeps getting distracted by more and more unexpected demons.
Yuru、今いちばん必要なの親代わりやろ。実際親探してる最中やし。ただ予想外の悪魔どもに毎回邪魔されてて草2ちゃん
Ashteron
I'm convinced that Oshirasama's master's granddaughter is a protagonist of a shoujo manga about her adventures with her grandma's tsugai.
Oshirasamaの主人の孫娘って、祖母のツガイと冒険する少女漫画の主人公だと確信してる。普通くん
dolphincave
Since her grandma was the master she either has her own pair or is spiritually aware, it must be weird to have a 6th sense in YnT but no Tsugai of your own. You just randomly see things while 99% of people think you're crazy and the other 1% pretend you're crazy to keep secrets.
祖母が主なら、彼女もツガイ持ちか霊感持ちという考察ができる。第六感だけあってツガイなしは辛いな。周囲は狂人扱いだし。考察くん
HippiesBeGoneInc
She's clearly going to inherit Oshirasama by the way its structured.
この構成やと、彼女がOshirasama継ぐの確定やん。2ちゃん
MakeMineMarvel_
luckily it seems to be spiritually aware is partly genetic? so you would have family who can explain things i guess
幸い、霊感?は一部遺伝っぽいから、説明してくれる家族がいるってことなのかな。普通くん
Affection_sira
probably Oshirasama shown their self to the granddaughter intentionally
たぶんOshirasama、わざと孫娘に姿見せたんやろな2ちゃん
Noble_Russkie
I swear to god I recognize both her and Granny's voices, but I can't put names to them, nor have I found any online. Any ideas?
彼女と婆ちゃんの声、絶対聞き覚えあるんだけど名前が出てこないし、ネットにも情報ない。誰かわかる?普通くん
Hounds_of_war
原文
Danji: “I only saw him at a distance, but it was just one man with two swords.” Huh, wait how did he see those swords that were invisible to everyone except- Yuu: “You’re a Daemon, aren’t you.” Ah. I like how much this one reveal answers and recontextualizes. That’s why Danji always wanted to go hunting with Yuru, we got the answer to who Fake Asa’s other half was, it’s why Kyoka was important enough to actually know the way off the mountain, and it’s probably why Oshirasama noticed Danji and came to help. Also explains why Danji was able to just zoom around on Oshirasama without anyone noticing.
Danjiが見えない二刀を見てた時点で伏線だったのか。Daemon判明で、Yuruとの狩り、Fake Asaの片割れ、Kyoka、Oshirasamaの援護まで一気に繋がるのが良い。考察くん
Eunuchest
Tbf, we could've easily assumed he was spritually aware.
正直、彼に霊感があるって普通に思っててもおかしくなかったね。普通くん
OldInstruction5368
原文
This was my first thought, because the raid on the mountain really emphasized that none of the villagers could see the swords. It was... laid on pretty thick, actually. Multiple shots of Mr. Manbun walking around with empty hands, villagers confused at what was going on, Mr. Manbun stopping to remind himself that the peasants can't see his 'swords,' really, it was quite excessive. Which is why I zero'ed in on the "sword" comment from Danji. I also wondered why Horse Girl immediately showed up to offer help, but was willing to write that off as "plot convenience." As for the highway scene... I just assumed Horse Girl could hide a person riding on her partner, or something. They can make themselves visible at will, so it isn't outside of reason that some daemons, at least, can hide people close to them. But then Yuru pointed out the shadow bit, and I felt like an idiot because I never noticed. If we go back to watch previous scenes, I'm sure it would be consistent: no shadows. Well played. This was a great twist.
村人が刀見えてない描写クドかったし、Danjiの発言に引っかかったわ。Yuruの「影ない」でワイ阿呆やん…伏線う2ちゃん
Namaryu
It kinda made sense for Danji to be the designated friend for Yuru but what shocked me was that it wasn't Granny Yamaha that was contracted to Zashiki-Warashi but Kyoka. But I believe Ivan during his invastion did not sense Granny to be master and yet Fake Asa pretended to have received an order.
DanjiがYuruの友達役なのは納得だけど、Zashiki-Warashiの契約者がGranny YamahaじゃなくKyokaだったのは驚いた。IvanはGrannyを主と感じてなかったのに、Fake Asaは命令されたフリしてたよね。普通くん
drunkenvalley
Ivan was confused because he couldn't locate the other half of the daemon pair - Danji. He also observed that their absence was suspicious - wouldn't most daemons protect their master? So I think it's reasonable for Ivan to be suspicious, but ultimately he also never got a solid confirmation - and fake Asa deliberately threw him off the trail as well.
Ivanが疑ったのは、ツガイの片割れDanji不在が不自然だったからだろう。普通は主を守るはず。ただ確証はなく、偽Asaにも攪乱された。考察くん
Mundology
Kyoka and the grandma are truly masters of gaslighting and manipulation
Kyokaとおばあちゃん、ガスライティングと人心掌握の達人すぎるんだけど笑ギャル
OldInstruction5368
原文
But I believe Ivan during his invastion did not sense Granny to be master and yet Fake Asa pretended to have received an order. Ivan all but confirmed this during the attack. First, the Fake Asa was acting far too reckless in front of her supposed "Master." She just wasn't prioritizing Granny's defense. Then, yeah, the other half never showed up to help. All but confirming that the Granny wasn't in control. Which then begs the question... just who is this Kyoka? What is her role in the village? And is she leading the 'sane' faction opposed to the extremist? "Danji" said his job was as a bodyguard, to protect Yuru from the "Bandits." We already know there are multiple factions within Higashi Village, and Kyoka/Danji clearly aren't apart of the "Bandit/Extremist" group.
Ivan襲撃時、Grannyが主人じゃないのはほぼ確定だと思う。Fake Asaは命令のフリっぽいし。KyokaとDanjiはBandit側じゃなさそう。普通くん
NanDemoKnaives
原文
That ending is so sad, I'm sure fake Asa, Danji and Kyouka all care about Yuru, but with what is all happening and his life being constantly targeted, I can see why he'd lash out in this way. It's a lot to take in, but I hope Yuru is able to come to realize they're not his enemy, and I hope their sacrifice isn't what is needed for him to learn that.  On a more positive note, the aliens were an interesting addition to the cast. I was not ready for a dog to be a master lol. I like how they ended up acting like fans of the other daemons.  Poor Ken, the youngest one and yet will have to act like an older brother to raise Yuru right, and teach him common sense of the modern era.  I like how Jin was prepared, he isn't going let Dera drink on his tab lol.
ラスト悲しすぎるンゴ。偽AsaもDanjiもKyoukaもYuru大事やろけど、命狙われ続けたらキレるのも分かる。犠牲展開だけはやめてくれ。犬が主人は草2ちゃん
OldInstruction5368
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I like how Jin was prepared, he isn't going let Dera drink on his tab lol. That was quite the hilarious callback! Dera's first thought was "I'm totally going to mooch" and Jin immediately realized as much... who then called up the girls and gave them strict instructions not to let Dera bankrupt him 😆 Also, darkly hilarious how Jin was brutally honest with the girls (killed that stalker and disposed of the body), and they just thought he was being silly with them. The girls... truly don't know they are dealing with Deamon Yakuza. I hope that doesn't get them killed or in trouble later on :S
Jinが先手打ってたの笑う。Deraは奢らせる気満々で即バレてたしw 女子たち、Deamon Yakuza相手って分かってないの怖いな。普通くん
Gars0n
Those girls definitely think Jin is regular Yakuza. They just don't know he's extra special Yakuza.
あの子たち絶対Jinを普通のヤクザだと思ってるじゃん!特別ヤバいヤクザって知らないだけなんだけど笑ギャル
OldInstruction5368
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Those working girls just thought Jin had, at most , roughed up the stalker. They thought he was being silly when he claimed to have murdered the guy and fed his body to the fishies. You know, 'tough guy' talk. This is the same Jin that casually introduced himself as a terrorist, amongst other "jobs" the Kagemori's ask of him. I really don't think they realize just who they are dealing with. And not just the 'daemon' part.
あの店の子たちは、Jinがストーカーをボコっただけだと思ってたんだろうね。殺して魚の餌にした話も虚勢だと。相手を分かってない。普通くん
HowlerMonkeyIsLoud
On the other hand, I just watched the Acrobat Silky episode of dandadan so FUCK YAKUZA
それはそれとして、dandadanのAcrobat Silky回見たばっかやからヤクザはマジでくたばれ2ちゃん
LeonKevlar
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I already love the two alien Daemons and their doggie master. It's cute how they started freaking out when they learned Left and Right's names. 😆 I was expecting a tearful reunion with Danji, not a massive bombshell being dropped on us . That explains why no one saw him on the highway when he was riding with Oshirasama. That entire scene was painful. Like, I'm pretty sure that Danji genuinely cares about Yuru and didn't befriend him to spy on him, but at the same time, you really can't blame Yuru for blowing up and not trusting him. 😢 Despite Yuru's reaction, I'm sure he'll still try to rescue Fake Asa after learning what happened to her.
2体のエイリアンっぽいツガイとその犬の主人、もう好きだわ。LeftとRightの名前を知って慌てふためくの可愛い😆。Danjiとの再会は感動的な涙のシーンかと思いきや、まさかの爆弾投下。これで彼が大白様と一緒に高速道路にいた時、誰にも見られなかった理由が説明つくという考察ができる。あのシーン全部が辛かった。Danjiは本気でユルを気にかけてて、スパイ目的で近づいたわけじゃないと思う。でも同時に、ユルがブチギレて信用しなくなったのも責められない😢。それでもユルは事の顛末を知った後、偽物のアサを救おうとするはず。考察くん
LezRock
That dog is the best master and has the best masters now. 😂 He can go on walks whenever he wants and can get fed whenever he wants. He's attained doggy freedom in a human society. Plus, they can probably protect him from so many dangers.
あの犬、最高の主人でありつつ最高の飼い主も得たな😂 散歩もごはんも好きな時で、人間社会で犬の自由を手に入れてる。普通くん
HolyDragSwd2500
No one would suspect a dog as a Tsugai Master
犬がツガイ使いとか、誰も疑わないじゃん!ギャル
TyraniTEMPESTar
Ooh a new pair of daemons join the fray! Wonder if these guys will become mainstays and join up with the Yuru camp? Maybe Ken adopts this new pug master? Then through pseudo ownership, being the master of the master, he'll be in control of these new alien like daemons, since they're comfortable with the contract they currently have with the dog.
お、新しいツガイ参戦!こいつらレギュラー化してYuru側に入るのかな。Kenがあのパグを飼えば、主の主として操れたりして。普通くん
Chikumori
>Ooh a new pair of daemons join the fray! was watching Mushoku before this episode....i thought Hitogami of an alternate universe?
おお、新しいツガイのペア参戦じゃん!この回の前にMushoku見てたから…別世界のHitogamiかと思ったんだけど笑ギャル
alconnow
Kotetsu perching on Ken’s head is super cute
Kenの頭にちょこんと乗ってるKotetsu、めっちゃかわいい普通くん
tripleaamin
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You can tell Danji being a daemon and Kyouko being his master definitely hurt Yuru. Like we all knew that Granny Yamaha was up to no good, but those two seemed to be the last people in the village that Yuru felt he at least had an authentic connection with. On another note, I really like how we have a master that is a dog. More so, the point is daemons don't care so much who their master is; what matters most is the relationships. Clearly those Daemons love their master. (I mean, who wouldn't lol?)
ダンジがツガイでキョウコがその主だったって事実、確実にユルを傷つけたと読める。ヤマハ婆さんが企んでるのは皆察してたけど、あの二人だけは村でユルが本物の繋がりを感じてた最後の存在だったんだよな。 あと主が犬っていう設定、地味に好き。ツガイは主が誰かより関係性を重視するって描写が効いてる。あのツガイたちが主を愛してるのは明白だ(まあ愛さない奴いないよなw)。考察くん
OldInstruction5368
On another note, I really like how we have a master that is a dog. It's official: best master of the series. Doesn't matter who else is introduced, we have a clear winner! Especially since the three are clearly a huge Men in Black reference. Black suits, "aliens" disguised as humans, and the dog... I forget his name, but MiB had an allien informant pretending to be a pug.
あと、主が犬なのめっちゃ好き。シリーズ最高の主で決まりだね。黒服、人に化けた“宇宙人”、犬って完全にMen in Blackネタじゃん。普通くん
chum-guzzling-shark
Do you think the dog can communicate with them? Asking to go for walks, etc?
あの犬、みんなと会話できると思う?「散歩行きたい!」とか伝えてるのかな…!?感情くん
Magnafeana
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She wrote her name on the milk 😭😭 Honestly, fair. I live alone, but I still be writing my name any bottles I use a straw out of so guests know to use the unmarked bottles. I love the kitty just travels by loafing on Ken's head, this is so adorable 🥹 Embrace The Cat as a Hat. Reject The Cat and the Hat. I have to raise Yuru-san right. Ken is a single mother. Children be having children smh my head. 🎶 ~ Here come the men in black ~🎶 Man. I really hope pugs are bred out of their flat faces. Poor babies. Bitch, that’s just Deoxys language; you can’t fool me 😤 But dogs (and cats) are our masters, hello??? Yall gotta get with the program. the kitty saying he’ll be friends too oh my goodness I fucking love the music for Oshirasama. I wish it were diegetic just for added humor and ✨whimsy✨. Every time she speaks, or there is a focus on her, let there be her own whimsical theme music. Sir. If I had a nickel for every time Arakawa has escort bars and the girls who work at them as some unofficial intelligence agency, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, and it’s not even weird that it’s happened twice. Wait, is Danji Fasa’s partner? AAAAAAAAAAAH Man, poor Yuru 🥺 I hope he and Danji can reconcile. Next episode being called “Yuru and Danji” has me hoping it's going in that direction. And Kyoka, I’m hoping, is more of a morally grey character. I put my trust in Arakawa that there is more to Kyoka than meets the eye. Poor Danji and Fasa, though. Having to be more lies in the life of someone they cared for 💔 And poor Yuru in that being beaten with a hammer of how many lies were surrounding him as he grew up. All these twists have me permanently gagged. Never would I have guessed Danji as a daemon let alone as Fasa's other half. But I like that this episode is sowing even more seeds of how inconspicuous daemons and their masters can be.
牛乳に名前書いてて草😭 一人暮らしでも自分用ボトルに名前書くわ、わかる ・ケンの頭に乗って移動する猫かわいすぎ🥹「帽子としての猫」を受け入れよ ・オシラサマの音楽まじ好き ・ダンジがファサの相棒!?あぁぁぁ ・ユルかわいそう🥺ダンジと和解してほしい ・アラカワの伏線ほんとやばい普通くん
Frostbitten_Moose
I’d have two nickels. So we're not counting the Holstein Club from Silver Spoon then, gotcha.
ワイなら2ニッケルやな。Silver SpoonのHolstein Clubはノーカンってことね、把握。2ちゃん
Thomas_JCG
Deoxys language was spot on
Deoxysの言語、まじでドンピシャだったじゃん!ギャル
thisisdropd
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This week's chock full of plot twists! There's the minor one with the duo-in-suits-and-the-dog. Who'd thought that the dog would instead be the master? Then, there's Danji. Felt odd that Fake Asa's partner was nowhere to be seen, and even Ivan pointed that out last week. I was also under the assumption that Yamaha was their master, when it turned out to be Kyouka instead. That explained how nobody batted an eye at a boy cruising along the motorway. Yuru's understandably got trust issues afterwards, and wanted to be left alone. Kyouka seemed to mean well, but given her method it's only natural for him to be pissed off. Hope he'll use that time to cool down. On a lighter note, it's hilarious how shocked Yuru was when he was told the cops will arrest him should he kill somebody else, no matter the reason.
今週はどん考察くん
Myrkrvaldyr
when he was told the cops will arrest him should he kill somebody else, no matter the reason. Ken should've told him about the US and how he'd have an easier time there when killing in self-defense depending on state. I can picture Yuru saying something like ''Oh, a place with common sense!''
また殺したら理由問わず逮捕って言われた時、Kenは州次第で正当防衛が通りやすいアメリカの話すべきだったな。Yuruが「常識ある場所じゃん!」とか言いそう。普通くん
Elrond_Halfelven
You still get arrested, generally, but proving that it was justified is much easier.
普通に逮捕はされるけど、それが正当だったって証明するのはかなり楽やろ。2ちゃん
Esovan13
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すみません、コメントは削除されました。ネタバレではなく、原作関連の話題をSource Material Corner外で扱ったためです。質問は返信かmodmailへ。考察くん
FLorianGran
Definitely didn't se the Danji twist coming. Yoru seems to be getting even more paranoid, not that I can blame him.
Danjiの展開は完全に予想外だった。Yoru、さらに疑心暗鬼になってる感じだけど、責められないな。普通くん
shigii
So if daemons do not cast shadows, they should not have shadow details in their bodies but I imagine that would be weird to animate lol
デーモンが影を落とさないなら体の陰影もないはずだけど、作画したら絶対変になるよなw無理すぎるw感情くん
ichigosr5
They specifically don't cast shadows on the world. They still cast shadows on themselves.
あいつらは周囲に影を落とさないってだけ。自分自身にはちゃんと影が出てる。普通くん