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気を塞ぐユルを見かねたデラによって、社会勉強として観光に連れまわされるユルと左右様。その一方で、影森屋敷では、侵入者たちへの尋問が開始されていて――
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Myrkrvaldyr
I can't get enough of Left's wide eye expression when she encounters something shocking, like riding a train. She's both a badass and a dork.
わかるッ!レフトの目まん丸にして驚く表情が最高すぎる!電車に乗るだけであの顔って可愛すぎだろ。カッコいいのにドジっ子なのズルい、ギャップ萌えでしぬッ!感情くん
PowerlinxJetfire
The daemon of gap moe
ギャップ萌えの悪魔だね普通くん
dude_1818
I think she looks like a cat that just spotted a bug, and it's great
ふむ、彼女の表情はまるで虫を見つけた猫のようでござるな。それがまた素晴らしい。武士
Jacob-C
This is hilariously accurate
やばっ!これマジで当たりすぎじゃね!?笑ギャル
PeaceAlien
Right made some too just not as common
確かに、右も作ってるけど、そこまで一般的じゃないんだよね。普通くん
saga999
Yeah, I love that look. It's like she's shocked, refuse to show it, but can't keep up the poker face.
あの表情最高やんwww 驚いてるのに気取ろうとしてるけどポーカーフェイス保てなくなってる感じがたまらん2ちゃん
DarthB22
I feel bad for the cashier.
あのレジの人まじで可哀想じゃん!?ギャル
mythriz
Kobeni-coded cashier
草、Kobeni要素盛り盛りのレジ打ちやんwww2ちゃん
mekerpan
So -- no psychic powers -- just getting too little sleep. Poor thing.
ふむ…超能力などではなく、ただの睡眠不足の呪縛か。哀れなるものよ、その魂は闇に蝕まれているのだ。中二病
F00dbAby
Theoretically if she can see a daemon I’m sure she could form a contract.
それな!もしデーモン見えるなら契約結べるっしょ!やばくね!?ギャル
oops_i_made_a_typi
i'm surprised more salarymen aren't peeping the daemons then
サラリーマンがもっとツガイ覗き見してないのガチで謎やわwww2ちゃん
paulrenzo
The girl who I presume is a salaryman saw a daemon in the elevator on a previous episode.
さっきのエピソードでサラリーマンっぽい女の子がエレベーターでデーモン見てたんだよね。普通くん
TheIronSheikh00
The guy that saw them riding on top of the train is another underslept guy. Probably a lot of underslept salarymen types around Japan
電車の屋根に乗ってるの見たやつも寝不足のサラリーマンやろなw 日本中にそういう奴おるやろなンゴww2ちゃん
FLorianGran
Lol that Hagure fakeout will probably piss people off but I thought it was funny. New Demons have creepy limbs and big smiling faces, the Arakawa special.
あのハグレのフェイクアウトには怒る人もいそうだけど、俺は笑えたわ。新悪魔たちの不気味な手足とでかい笑顔、まさに荒川節だね。普通くん
AceSoldia
I liked the fakeout ..it lasted only like 30 seconds ..I think it was pretty funny
フェイク展開よかった…持続時間30秒くらいで笑えたわッ!めっちゃ面白かった!感情くん
oops_i_made_a_typi
had to double take to make sure i heard correctly and to see how misleading the initial convo could be taken from both paths
最初の会話がどっちの意味にも取れるから、ちゃんと聞き直したわ。紛らわしいなこれ。普通くん
tripleaamin
Lol that Hagure fakeout will probably piss people off but I thought it was funny. I did see a good amount of people speculating about Hagure being evil. Arakawa probably knew that and thought, Oh, I can make a fun scene. I enjoyed it as well. Hagure has a lot of potential for mangaka jokes.
草www ハグレの偽装展開、キレる奴続出しそうだけどワイは笑ったわ。結構な人数が「ハグレ実は悪役説」とか言ってたけど、荒川先生もそれ読んで「おっ面白いシーン作れるやん」って思ったんやろな。確かにワイも楽しめたンゴ。ハグレ、漫画家ネタの宝庫すぎるやろwww2ちゃん
okiknow2004
It was right after their talk about non-existing west gate. Hagure's ability was perfect for that, so people would suspect him to be the mastermind.
まじでそれ!西門ないって話した直後じゃん!ハグレの能力が完璧すぎたから、みんなが黒幕って疑うのも当然だよね〜やばくね!?ギャル
Zeph-Shoir
The creepy daemons are straight up called Long-Legs and Long-Arms lmao
ロングレッグスとロングアームズってそのまんまの名前やん草www2ちゃん
biskutgoreng
Lmao te nagai and ashi nagai
「テナガイとアシナガイってマジで草」普通くん
TheIronSheikh00
There's a spider called Daddy-Long Legs lol
「Daddy-Long Legs」ってクモおるんか草2ちゃん
DMking
I kinda think that one is gonna be a double fake out. Either that or there is someone knows Tadera barrier techniques to disguise a west gate
あれ多分二重のフェイクアウトだと思うわw もしくは西の門を偽装できるタデラの結界術を知ってる誰かがいるんだろうな笑wwwおじ
sesaman
Double fake out would feel pretty cheap. The gag here was good, but if it turns out to be something more serious I'm going to be seriously disappointed.
二重のフェイクアウトはちょっと安っぽいな。今回のギャグは良かったけど、これがシリアスな展開になったらマジでガッカリするわ。普通くん
VMK_1991
Haven't read the manga, but it felt like a fun two pages long "chapter epilogue" that authors sometimes make for humour's sake.
ふむ…原作の魔導書はまだ開いておらぬが、これはまるで作者が戯れに描く二頁の“終章外伝”のような愉悦に満ちた片鱗よな。中二病
TheIronSheikh00
There's that guy with the big daemon that can't enter rooms who's responsibility was to block the entrance that I'm suspicious of. The other half of his big demon may be to create doors.
あの大きな悪魔が部屋に入れなくて、入り口を塞ぐ役割だった男が怪しいな。彼の悪魔のもう半分はドアを作る能力かもしれない。普通くん
NanDemoKnaives
原文
I figured we'd eventually come across the information revealing type daemons, but seeing Whisper just completely reveal all that private information took me by surprise. Fuyuki said he shouldn't be revealing a woman's information, but he let it go on for so long lol. If he could find out the information they needed quickly, he should have done so first. But I'm going to assume it's to send them a message.  There not being a West Gate points to either Hagure who can actually draw gates, or someone in the Kagemori household has daemons that can make entrances and exits. I'm going to assume the latter because the following scene with Hagure feels like a red herring, but I'm not going to completely write him off just yet.  I feel like Hamura kind of meshes well with the Kagemori, at least in terms of banter. He's going to have to work to get his daemon back, if they even decide to go back to him. Looks like the cute names weren't enough.  Right and Yuru shouting in excitement during the sightseeing was funny, then you have Dera shouting because of gambling lol. Yuru learning the joys a big store can give the first time, now he can get glue in a bottle rather than extract it from animals.  Dera really wants Jin to want to kill him deciding to drink on his tab lol.
情報を暴くタイプの悪魔が登場するとは予想してたけど、ウィスパーがあそこまで個人情報をベラベラ喋るとは思わなかったな。冬木は「女性の情報を明かすべきじゃない」と言いながら、ずっと放置してたの笑える。もし早く必要な情報を引き出せるなら最初にやるべきだったんだが、おそらくメッセージを送るためだったんだろう。西門がないのは、門を描けるハグレか、影森家の悪魔が出入り口を作れるかのどちらかだ。後のハグレのシーンがミスリードっぽいから後者だと思うけど、まだ完全にハグレを切り捨てるわけにはいかないな。羽村は影森家と、少なくとも雑談のテンポでは上手く合ってる気がする。悪魔を取り戻すには努力が必要だろうな、もし戻る気があるなら。可愛い名前だけじゃ足りなかったようだ。 そういえば、ユルが観光中に興奮して叫んでたのは面白かったな。一方でデラはギャンブルで叫んでたけど笑。ユルが初めて大きな店の楽しさを知ったわけだ、今度は動物から抽出しなくても瓶入りの糊が手に入る。デラはジンに殺されたくてたまらないみたいで、ツケで酒を飲んでるのが笑える。考察くん
Zero3020
There not being a West Gate points to either Hagure who can actually draw gates, or someone in the Kagemori household has daemons that can make entrances and exits. Oh god and he was conveniently missing during the attack because of his deadline, I have already half convinced myself he is plotting against the twins.
西門がないってことは、実際に門を描けるハグレか、影森家の誰かが出入り口を作れる悪魔を持ってるってことだな。それに攻撃中、締切を理由にちょうどいなかったし、もう半分くらいは彼が双子に対して陰謀を企んでるって確信してる。普通くん
Gil_Demoono
原文
I wouldn't be surprised if he was behind it, but if he was, I also think it may have been for good reasons. There is clearly a ton we still don't know about the forces at play and the motivations of all the players. It may be that this attack could be a false flag of sorts to accelerate things. It certainly doesn't seem that there were any heavy hitters in the attack, so I could absolutely believe it was designed to fail by someone who didn't intend to get their own people hurt. I don't know enough about any of these people to ascertain motivations for any of this, but I've seen enough 4d chess shonen bullshit to sniff out when there are altruistic layers to a betrayal.
あいつが黒幕でも全然驚かんけどな、仮にそうだとしてもワイは理由あってのことやと思うわ。まだまだ裏で動いてる勢力とか各プレイヤーの動機が全然見えてへんしな。今回の襲撃、実は偽旗作戦で事態を加速させようとしてる可能性もあるで。攻撃に大物が参加してへんところ見ると、味方にケガさせたくない誰かがわざと失敗させるように仕組んだって線もガチでありえる。誰が何考えてるかはまだわからんけど、4D将棋みたいな少年漫画の裏切りで善意が隠れてるパターンは何度も見てきたからな。2ちゃん
Namaryu
Hagure has been portrayed as the only Kagemori that has zero interest in the yakuza stuff but clearly needs to be doing something.
確かに、ハグレはヤクザごときに一片の興味も示さぬ唯一の影守りとして描かれておるが、明らかに何かせねばならぬ身の上であるな。武士
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
If he could find out the information they needed quickly, he should have done so first. But I'm going to assume it's to send them a message. He simply acted as a lie detector analyst would is my take on it. Build a rapport and form a baseline to see if these people they plan on using could actually be trusted. You're not wrong about the sending a message part tho, but just like the classic good cop, bad cop method--Gonzo, like a good employer, interjects and reels them back in and reassures them... hook, line and sinker
もし彼がさっさと情報を引き出せたなら、最初にそうすべきだったよな。でも多分、警告を送る意図があったんだと思う。俺の見解としては、彼はただ嘘発見器みたいに動いてただけだよ。信頼関係を築いて基準を作り、使おうとしてる連中が本当に信頼できるか見極めてたんだ。警告を送ったって部分は間違ってないけど、古典的な良い警官・悪い警官の手法と同じでさ――ゴンゾは良い雇い主みたいに割って入って、彼らを引き戻して安心させるんだ…まんまと引っかかるってわけ。普通くん
Togglea
but seeing Whisper just completely reveal all that private information took me by surprise Imagine getting interrogated on your parents and it just spits out a name you recognize as a man who lived a block away. In the same vein: a terrible way to find out you were adopted or even worse the catastrophic event of a hospital unit accidentally swapped you with another baby.
まあWhisperがプライベート情報を全部ペラペラ喋っちゃうのは驚いたな。両親について尋問されて、隣のブロックに住んでた男の名前が出てくるってのはキツい話だ。同じように、養子だって知る最悪な方法だよな。もっと酷いのは病院で赤ん坊を取り違えられたってパターンか。ドライおじ
Siqueiradit
I have the feeling that the information exposed has to be known by the person being exposed, so if they don't know they were adopted then that wouldn't be revealed.
確かに、公開される情報は本人が知ってる内容に限られてそうだね。だから養子って知らなかったら、それは明かされないってことか。普通くん
Elrond_Halfelven
More accurately, it should be information known by the Daemons.
せやな、正確に言うと悪魔たちが知ってた情報ってとこやろな2ちゃん
TheIronSheikh00
yea but it only reveals what the person actually knows i think
同意!でもそれって結局、その人が本当に知ってることだけが明らかになるって話だよね。感情くん
flashmozzg
In the same vein: a terrible way to find out you were adopted or Not sure if the ability can't tell more than the daemons actually know. Otherwise it'd be too broken.
確かに:養子だと知る最悪の方法だな。でも能力が悪魔以上に知ってるわけじゃないなら、さすがにチートすぎるだろ。普通くん
SciFiXhi
There not being a West Gate points to either Hagure who can actually draw gates, or someone in the Kagemori household has daemons that can make entrances and exits. The strongest pairs seem to be based on contrasts. Since one of Akio's daemons tends to block doorways, would its (yet unrevealed) complement be able to create doorways?
西門がないってことは、門を描けるハグレか、影森家の誰かが出入り口作れるデーモン持ってるってことやろな。最強ペアは対照的な組み合わせっぽいし。アキオの片方のデーモンが出入り口塞ぐタイプなら、相方(まだ出てないやつ)は逆に出入り口作れるんちゃうか?2ちゃん
zorracosmica
I was thinking it would be really small, because I thought the big one had the ability of being... big. so the opposite would be just being tiny. but what you're saying makes more sense, nice take. also akio is very similar to the kagemori patriarch. he has that same uncanny kawaii moe face on a big, bald man. i was surprised to know Jin and the others were gonzo's sons when akio is right there
でかい方が「デカくなる能力」持ってるから、反対は小さくなるだけかと思ってたわ。でもお前の言う方が納得できる、いい視点だな。 あとアキオって影森の族長にすごく似てるよね。デカくてハゲた男にあの不気味カワイイ萌え顔が乗ってる感じ。ジンたちがゴンゾの息子って知って驚いたわ、アキオはまさにそれなのに。普通くん
zorracosmica
also... akio killed the boss of the mercenaries. and it was a whole scene making sure we all saw that. if he's the one who let the mercenaries in, ye could have a very good motive to kill him
せやな…アキオが傭兵のボス殺したやん。しかもわざわざ全員に見せつけるような演出やったし。もしアイツが傭兵を中に入れた張本人なら、殺す動機としては十分すぎるやろ2ちゃん
MapoTofuMan
Slice of life is over, let the slicing of lives begin. Gabby giving her Daemons chuuni ass names definitely checks out.
日常パートは終了、命の切り刻みが始まるな。ギャビーが自分のデーモンに厨二っぽい名前つけてるの、確かにあり得るわ。普通くん
El_grandepadre
Gabby giving her Daemons chuuni ass names definitely checks out. Can't live up to genderbent Edward's reputation otherwise.
ギャビーが自分の使い魔に中二病っぽい名前つけるのまじでわかるわ〜笑 性転換エドワードの評判に負けないためにはそうするしかないじゃん!ギャル
TheIronSheikh00
Kagemori family started going dark again lol. Looks like Dera took out a few who got stuck in the nether realm between worlds
影守家また闇堕ち始めたンゴねえw デラが異界の狭間で詰まってた連中を数人片付けたっぽいやん2ちゃん
Zero3020
That was totally Asuma's moth tailing Yuru and Dera at the start of the episode wasn't it?
やばっ!冒頭でユルとデラを尾行してたのって完全にあのアスマの蛾じゃん!?やっぱそうだよね!ギャル
Namaryu
Twist so obvious I would be shocked if Asuma turns out to be good lol.
アスマが良いやつだったら逆にびっくりするレベルで、展開がわかりやすすぎるんだよな笑普通くん
Zero3020
Honestly the fakeout scene with Hikaru makes me rank him higher on the sus list because it just seems too simple and obvious otherwise.
確かにヒカルが偽装シーンやってるの、逆に怪しさアップだわ。普通に考えてあんな単純すぎるし、むしろ「わざとやってる感」が強すぎるッ!感情くん
Namaryu
I can't believe that this dude is simply binding his own business while being the next head of the clan
この奴、次期当主なのに自分の仕事だけ淡々とやってるの信じられないわ普通くん
mythriz
working a job that is even more stressful than being yakuza
わかる…ヤクザよりストレス溜まる仕事とかしんどすぎるッ!感情くん
flashmozzg
Can definitely buy it for mangaka.
確かに作者ならそういうのもわかるな。普通くん
Zeph-Shoir
On the other hand, it makes total sense to NOT want to inherit the clan and simply be dedicated to his passion of drawing manga
それな!むしろ継ぐのやめて漫画家に専念するって超わかるじゃん!自分の情熱に生きるってまじアガるよね〜笑ギャル
DameSayo
He doesn't want to,so...
したくないならしゃーないやろ2ちゃん
Hounds_of_war
Everyone is so obviously shady that it’s hard to figure out who the actual main antagonists are
マジでみんな怪しすぎて誰が本当の敵か全然わかんなくない!?笑ギャル
sesaman
A double fake out would be really cheap and most likely unsatisfying. I find it really hard to believe it could be executed in a way that wouldn't feel super disappointing.
二重の裏切りってのは安っぽいし、多分満足感も薄いだろうな。それをがっかりさせずにやるのは相当難しいと思うよ。ドライおじ
dude_1818
He's been so obviously a creeper the whole time that I have to imagine him *not* being a double agent is going to be the twist
このキャラまじで最初から怪しすぎて、もし二重スパイじゃなかったらむしろそれがどんでん返しになるレベルだと思うんだけど笑ギャル
zorracosmica
I recently watched the first episode again, and I'm pretty sure there was an Asuma moth as well before the village massacre
最近また初回見直したんだけどさ、村の虐殺の前にアスマ蛾もいたっぽいんだよなwwwwおじ
PeaceAlien
I love the blank stare the characters give when learning about things they can't comprehend. With how nice Asa is to her Daemons, I wouldn't be surprised if she had a Daemon army eventually (as long as they're compatible)
アーサがデーモンたちに優しく接してるのを見ると、彼女が最終的にデーモン軍団を持つことになっても驚かないな(相性が合えばだけど)。キャラが理解不能なことを知った時の虚ろな表情がめっちゃ好き。普通くん
Namaryu
Something tells me that the invaders entering through WEST gate is gonna be important later on.
西門から入侵してきたってのが後々重要になりそうやな 伏線やろこれ2ちゃん
runevault
I wonder if there are daemons that can create entrances where none exist. Sounds like the type of power a daemon could have in this world. Hell maybe it is the power of the swords the guy who got away has?
確かに、どこにでも出入り口を作れる悪魔っているかもね。この世界ならあり得る能力だし。もしかしたら逃げた奴の刀の力だったりして?普通くん
Namaryu
I think they got through by some power like that too
ワイもそう思うンゴ。何かそういう力で乗り切ったんやろなあ。2ちゃん
zorracosmica
we do know there are daemons capable of drawing things into reality
確かに現実に物を描き出すことができる悪魔がいるのはわかってるんだよな普通くん
runevault
原文
True there's black and white, but so many things we do not know about what they can and cannot do. They were used to create very simple things (posts, tatami mats, and the like). They do say it is based on the imagination of the wielder, but that doesn't guarantee that is the only limitations. Can he create mechanical things? Can he manipulate living creatures? The second doesn't matter for making a gate but the first might depending on if it was a torii gate style or a normal gate + door.
せやな、黒と白の区別はあるけど、実際に何ができて何ができへんのかはまだ知らんことだらけや。柱や畳みたいな単純なもん作るのに使われてたけど、使用者の想像力次第って言われても、それが限界とは限らんやろ。機械モン作れるんか?生き物操れるんか?門作るだけなら後者は関係ないけど、前者は鳥居スタイルか普通の門+ドアかで変わってくるンゴwww2ちゃん
zorracosmica
you're right, I was actually thinking if they couldn't just spit out manga pages without hagure needing to lift a finger. which would make his deadline alibi shake
確かに、ハグレが何もしなくても漫画のページを吐き出せないのかって俺も思ってたわ。そうなると彼の締切アリバイが怪しくなるな。普通くん
Drudru1003
If they could do that then Hikaru shouldn't have struggled with his deadlines nor would he have bothered having Asa and Gabby as his assisstants.
せやな、それできたら光が締切に苦しむこともなかったやろし、アサとギャビーをアシスタントに雇う必要もなかったやんwww2ちゃん
zorracosmica
that's what I'd do if I wanted to make myself look like the goofy incapable eldest son while betraying my yakuza family
もし俺がヤクザの家族を裏切る時に、自分をバカで無能な長男に見せかけるなら、そうするわな。普通くん
Drudru1003
Still it's way too obvious of a twist since even the episode itself went out of it's way to have lampshade that with the fake out.
まあでも展開がベタすぎやろwww エピソード自体が露骨にフリしてるし、あの偽装演出でわざわざメタ発言する時点で「これやろな」ってバレバレやん ワイは「あ、やっぱりな」って思ったわ2ちゃん
runevault
This is my gut reaction as well. I still want to know what Asuma's Daemons can do.
それな。俺もアスマのツガイが何できるのかまだ知りたいんだよね。普通くん
TheIronSheikh00
there's that guy who has a giant daemon that blocks entire doors. The other half may be a daemon that creates doors.
あのデカい悪魔で扉塞いでるやついたよなwwwもう片方は扉作る悪魔かもしれんやん草2ちゃん
mucklaenthusiast
I mean, the manga guy can surely draw a gate
マンガ家、門を描くの上手すぎるッ!その技術マジでヤバい感情くん
OldInstruction5368
原文
I wonder if there are daemons that can create entrances where none exist. But this doesn't answer the 'barrier' question. Namely, creating a gate is one thing, but can this power also create a breach in the barrier that no one would notice? Jin's questioning implies that there are a number of people within the Kage clan that could just invite outsiders through the barrier, and as the clan's heir, it wouldn't surprise me if Hagure had greater control over the barrier than most. Meaning, he could not just create a "West Gate" on the fly, but he could also create an opening to let the mercenary raid in. Then just remake the wall and seal back up the barrier afterwards. I'd also add it's sus that the bald guy killed the 'leader' of the raid. AFAIK, the only person confirmed to have been killed was the only one that could have revealed information on who really set this raid up? On a raid that it's highly likely there is at least one mole in the family to let those guys assailants in through the barrier? Through a gate that only existed for about an hour or so in the middle of hte night? So far Baldy and Hagure are both looking mighty sus.
確かに「入口を作る」能力を持つデーモンがいるかもしれないけど、重要なのは結界の問題だよね。門を作るのと、誰にも気づかれずに結界に穴を開けるのは別の話。ジンの問いかけからすると、影一族の中には結界を通して外部者を招き入れる人材が何人かいるってことだし、一族の後継者であるハグレなら結界の制御が普通より強いのも納得。つまり、即席で「西門」を作るだけでなく、傭兵を侵入させるための穴を開けて、後で壁を修復して結界を閉じ直すことも可能だったかも。さらに、ハゲ野郎が襲撃の「リーダー」を殺したのも怪しい。今のところ確定で殺されたのは、本当の首謀者を明かせた唯一の人物だけだし、夜中の1時間だけ存在した門を通じて侵入させる内部の内通者がいる可能性が高い。現時点ではハゲとハグレ、両方ともかなり怪しいな。普通くん
runevault
原文
The barrier part almost has to mean inside job because the only barrier breaching we've seen was Break and that was so violent it was obvious when it happened. As for Baldy i thought I remembered Jin killing some guys too but I haven't watched that episode since it aired so I could be off there. The tough thing with Baldy is he seems fight capable but I'm not sure if he's generally competent or not. As for Hagure he's too obvious a choice, which could be a double switch from Arakawa but I don't think so.
バリアの件は内部犯行説が濃厚だな。これまでバリア破壊を見せたのはブレイクだけだが、あれは衝撃的すぎて発動が一目瞭然だった。ハゲの件だが、確かジンも何人か殺してた記憶がある。ただ放送当時観たきりで記憶が曖昧だ。ハゲは戦闘力はありそうだが、全体的に有能かどうかは判断が難しい。ハグレは候補としてあまりに露骨すぎる。荒川先生の二重のミスリードの可能性もあるが、個人的には違うと見ている。考察くん
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
So much for every daemon introduced thus far being cute. Of course it's only natural there would be total abominations as well such as Tenaga and Ashinaga. Man, those two are hideous AF Dera is definitely a bad influence and not exactly the best role model for Yuru to be following around. Gambling away on horse racing lmao, luckily all of it went over Yuru's head being the total bumpkin that he is. Lol And speaking of Yuru being a bumpkin--how very on brand of him to choose an axe for a weapon (after leaving behind Dera's machete over at the Kagemoris). Perhaps he was only thinking of using it on daemons or maybe he really just wants to lop off some spandex-wearing assassins' heads.
今まで出てきた眷属が可愛い系ばっかりだったからな。当然テナガとアシナガみたいな完全に異形なやつもいるよね。あの2人、マジでキモすぎるわ。デラは明らかに悪影響だし、ユルがついて行くには絶対いい手本じゃないよな。競馬でギャンブルとか草、田舎者のユルには全部スルーされてたけどな。そしてユルが田舎者って話だけど—カゲモリ家にデラのマチェーテ置いてきて斧を武器に選ぶとか、まさに彼らしい選択だな。眷族に使うつもりなのか、それともスパンツの暗殺者たちの首を落としたいだけなのか。普通くん
F00dbAby
I do wonder if he will ever use a gun or if he will stick to axes/bow and arrows/maybe a sword and other old fashioned weapons since he is just used for that.
まじで彼が銃使うか気になるんだけど!今まで斧とか弓とか剣とか古臭い武器ばっか使ってきたし、慣れてるからそのまま行くのかな〜笑ギャル
audiodudedmc
With how ruthless and strategic he is, Yuru with a gun will probably be the scariest person in that universe.
ユルに銃持たせたらマジで宇宙最強の恐怖やろwww あの狡猾さと戦略眼やばすぎンゴ2ちゃん
F00dbAby
Dera really should teach him to use a sniper rifle or something
デラにスナイパーライフルの使い方教えてもらえばいいのに!絶対強くなるじゃん!ギャル
audiodudedmc
I think a pistol or an SMG would suit him more since he's very mobile during battle.
確かに彼は戦闘中すごく動き回るから、ピストルかSMGの方が合いそうだね。普通くん
F00dbAby
True some variation of a handgun probably has a more flexibility for what type of fighter he is.
確かに!彼の戦闘スタイル的に拳銃のバリエーションの方が汎用性高そうじゃん?てかそれ超納得〜ギャル
a1oner_bvcksn6
Needless to say when he eventually acquires the power of Seal , he just might literally become Jin Woo lol So at this point, I'd rather Arakawa just draws or come up with all sorts of medieval weapons for Yuru to come across and use for the entire duration of this series and have it become sort of a running gag--like, move over Chekhov's guns. Yuru's blades are here to slay!
言うまでもなく、最終的に封の力を手に入れたらマジでジンウみたいになっちゃうかもな。だったらもう荒川先生には、ユルがシリーズ通して中世武器を次々に見つけて使う流れにしてほしいわ。チェーホフの銃なんて関係ない、ユルの刃が全てを斬るって感じで、ギャグにしちゃえばいいじゃん。普通くん
audiodudedmc
With how hectic I imagine the constant flow of people gunning for him now is going to be I imagine he won't have much time to learn how to use guns as effective as he uses bow and arrows, so I imagine he'll stick to those. Plus it's more stealthy, which he seems to prefer.
常に命狙う奴らが来るって想像しただけでカオスやろなw 弓みたいに銃を使いこなす時間なんてねえだろうし、結局弓に頼るンゴwww しかも弓の方がステルス性高いし、本人もそっち好みそうやしな2ちゃん
Zeph-Shoir
I was legit shocked at how many high-caliber weapons Dera has at home!
デラの家にハイレベルな武器がこんなにあったの、普通にビビったわ普通くん
Devoidoxatom
i thought dera was gonna give him some modern bow with those hydraulics or smth
デラがなんか油圧とかついた最新の弓を渡すのかと思ったんだけど笑ギャル
mucklaenthusiast
I mean, I assume at some point he will acquire Seal. I wonder how that changes how he fights Bit for now, a bow seems plently powerful, he is really skilled, after all.
まあいずれはシールも手に入れるやろな。今んとこビットとの戦い方どう変わるか気になるわ。弓だけで十分強えし、何せアイツめっちゃ腕利きやしな。2ちゃん
Thomas_JCG
He had years of training with a bow, hard to drop that for guns with zero training.
確かに、何年も弓の訓練してきた人がいきなり銃に切り替えるのは難しいよな普通くん
FelixAndCo
Horse and Ox weren't really cute either.
馬と牛も別に可愛くなかったンゴねwww2ちゃん
a1oner_bvcksn6
I'd argue it was only because the scenes they were in was in the dark, but 'cuteness' is in the eyes of the beholder or so they say ofc. At least they were lore accurate and looked like the animals they represented. Tenaga/Ashinaga are just straight up made of nightmares in comparison.
確かに暗い場面だったからという要素はあるが、結局「可愛さ」は見る人の主観だよな。少なくとも彼らは設定通り、モチーフとなった動物らしい見た目だった。対照的に手長・足長は完全に悪夢そのものだという考察ができる。考察くん
SciFiXhi
Tenaga and Ashinaga are also fairly representative of what they're named for, since those names are literally "long arm" and "long leg".
テナガとアシナガは名前の通りだね。文字通り「長い腕」と「長い脚」って意味だし。普通くん
TheIronSheikh00
I was like ...what in the Eldritch horros
なにこれ…… Eldritchホラーすぎるッ!感情くん
mythriz
I need someone to edit that horse racing scene and replace the cut to the horses with umamusume racing instead
これやばくね!?競馬のシーンをウマ娘のレースに差し替える編集してくれる人マジで求めてるんだけど笑ギャル
yancovigen
I looked them up and Ashinagatenaga are actual yokai in Japanese folklore. I thought that was pretty neat.
調べてみたら足長手長って日本の民間伝承の実在する妖怪なんやな。結構かっこええやん。2ちゃん
TheIronSheikh00
Reminds me of Toji
これってトウジ思い出させるよね!やばくね!?ギャル
Se7en_Sinner
I don't think Yuru's going to prefer loincloths over underpants after today...
今日の一件でユルがふんどしよりパンツ選ぶことはもうないと思うンゴwww2ちゃん
diacewrb
This is the second anime to start a loincloth vs underpants debate today.
確かにッ!ロインクロスvsパンツ論争、今日だけで2つ目のアニメで勃発してるの草。どっちも優勝すぎるだろッ!感情くん
TheIronSheikh00
I was afraid there'd be some illicit shots with those Eldritch horrors wearing loincloths. I'm like...we don't need to see what they're packing...The author is a woman so was doubly afraid of non-PG male stuff lol
あのエルドリッチホラーどもがふんどし着けてる時点でヤバいシーン来るかと思ったわw 「お前らの股間なんて見たくねえよ…」ってなったわ。作者女性やし余計にR-18級の男要素が怖かったンゴwww2ちゃん
alconnow
Got jumpscared by that sudden decapitation Yuru definitely going to consider wearing boxers after this
あの突然の首チョンパにビビったわ。ユルはこれで絶対パンツ履くって決めるだろな普通くん
Still-Neck-6771
原文
What is a Tenaga Ashinaga???? Asa my girl editing Dera out of the pics 😭😭🤣🤣 Yoru learning about the modern world was cute and funny at the same time. Tadera clan has more to them that we dont know yet and Im so interested. Also that daemon that can read about the daemons master, the info and all has got to be the most useful daemon 🤣 Joe William Fredric Gabriel I and Kirk Douglas Audglaive Gabriel II are so cute 🤣🤣🤣
「Tenaga Ashinagaって何だ?!」というツッコミから始まるが、アサがデラを写真から消し去る編集作業は彼女のキャラをよく表しているな。ヨルが現代社会を学ぶシーンは可愛くもあり滑稽でもあるという二面性が絶妙。多田羅一族にはまだ明かされていない深い背景がありそうで、非常に興味をそそられる。あと、使い魔の主に関する情報を読み取れるデーモンは、実用性で言えば間違いなく最強クラスだよな(笑)。ジョー・ウィリアム・フレデリック・ガブリエル1世とカーク・ダグラス・オードグレイヴ・ガブリエル2世のネーミングセンスも考察のしがいがある。考察くん
Eunuchest
What is a Tenaga Ashinaga???? Yokai in japanese folklore Ashinaga-tenaga (足長手長; "Long Legs Long Arms") are a pair of yōkai in Japanese folklore. One, Ashinaga-jin (足長人), has extremely long legs, while the other, Tenaga-jin (手長人), has extremely long arms.
「Tenaga Ashinagaって何やねん???ww」 日本の妖怪「足長手長」のことやで。片方は足がめっちゃ長い「足長人」、もう片方は腕がめっちゃ長い「手長人」って呼ばれてるンゴ。2ちゃん
Affection_sira
yeah kinda weird they dont localize Ashinaga-tenaga into long legs & long arms like in the manga
え、まじで?和訳で「アシナガテナガ」をそのまま使うのやばくね?漫画みたいに「ロングレッグ&ロングアーム」って訳してほしかったんだけど笑ギャル
Zeph-Shoir
I can easily see why one could decide to translate them or not either way. Proper names aren't usually translated, many actual Japanese names also have meanings that could be translated like that but aren't precisely because they are names.
確かに名前の翻訳は難しいよね。普通は固有名詞は訳さないし、日本の名前にも意味が込められてるけど、あくまで名前として扱うのが普通だしな。普通くん
Thomas_JCG
They are called by their Japanese names by Right and Left, who are characters that would use their traditional names. The episode preview uses Long Legs and Long Arms.
まじで!?ライトとレフトが日本名で呼んでるの、伝統的な名前使いそうなキャラって感じでやばくね?でも次回予告ではLong LegsとLong Armsって呼んでて、どっちもアリって感じじゃん!笑ギャル
CosmicDestructor
They did in the translation for next episode's title. Weird translation, ig?
次回予告のタイトル翻訳が謎すぎるンゴwww なんでそうなるねん2ちゃん
Still-Neck-6771
Oh got it, thanks 🫶
あーわかった!ありがとー🫶ギャル
AceSoldia
Sorry there is no Teredera in the picture. Only Yuru 🤣
確かに照寺がいない画像しかないね。ユルだけだわ🤣普通くん
mythriz
erased him both from the photo and her mind lol
写真からも記憶からも消されてて草2ちゃん
mekahamedan
te = arms, ashi = legs naga = long
「腕=te、脚=ashi、長い=naga」ってことか…!なるほど、言葉遊びがエモすぎるッ!感情くん
LeonKevlar
原文
I'll never get tired of Yuru's reaction to the modern world. It was just fun watching Tadera take him out on a shopping trip. Another thing I love about Yuru is that while he may be ignorant of the ways of the modern world, he is in no way stupid. The dude saw underwears and immediately pieced it together that the bandits he encountered in the past were people who came up the mountains to kill him. So the attackers got in through an entrance that doesn't exist? I think it's pretty obvious at this point that someone let them in. Thankfully, it's not Hikaru. That fake-out with him was great! Honestly, he's the least sus, which would make him the prime candidate for being the traitor. Man, Gabby really likes the name Gabriel, huh? The two Yin-Yang Daemons making faces at the idea of going back to their original master was pretty funny. I can't blame them. Honestly, Asa should really just keep them. Damn, Dera literally has a fucking armoury at his place. And it apparently also serves as a maze to lure and execute Kagemoris who get too close. So is the house Dera's own Daemon, or is it owned by the Tadera Clan in general? We really need to meet the rest of the Tadera Clan.
ユルの現代社会への反応は何度見ても飽きないな。タデラに連れられて買い物に行くシーンが純粋に面白かった。ユルの魅力は、現代社会に疎いだけで決してバカではないところだ。彼は下着を見て即座に、過去に出会った山賊たちが自分を殺しに来た人間だったと結びつけた。存在しない入口から侵入者が入ったって?明らかに誰かが招き入れたとしか思えない。ヒカルじゃなくて安心したよ。あのフェイク演出は見事だった。正直、彼が一番怪しくないからこそ、裏切り者の最有力候補になるんだよな。ガブリエルって名前、ギャビーはよっぽど好きなんだな。陰陽の使い魔たちが元の主人の元に戻るのを嫌がる表情が面白かった。アサにはこのまま彼らを引き取ってほしいものだ。デラの家にはまさかの武器庫があったのか。しかも近づく影守を誘い込んで始末する迷路にもなっているらしい。あの家はデラ自身の使い魔なのか、それともタデラ一族全体のものなのか?早くタデラ家の他のメンバーにも会いたいところだ。考察くん
Thomas_JCG
So is the house Dera's own Daemon, or is it owned by the Tadera Clan in general? We really need to meet the rest of the Tadera Clan. It belongs to the clan. Dera says so after they find the corpse of that Kagemori agent that followed another Tadera.
あの家はデラ個人の使い魔ってわけじゃなくて、多分タデラ一族全体のものだよね。他のタデラ一族とも会ってみたいな。デラ自身も、別のタデラを追ってたカゲモリのエージェントの死体を見つけた後にそう言ってたし。普通くん
PCN24454
In case, you didn’t already know “Gabu” is the Japanese onomatopoeia for “Chomp”. It’s a pun on how her Daemons are mouths.
「Gabu」って「がぶり」の擬音語やん。悪魔が口って設定とかけてるんか、なるほどな。2ちゃん
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
After this episode, I seriously believe Gonzo is responsible for Asa and Yuru's parents disappearance. Just think about it, who stands to gain with them out of the picture? Gonzo technically goes from being just a landlord to becoming Asa's godparent/guardian. Makes it so much easier to fill Asa's head with certain thoughts such as maybe murdering people from the Higashi village, as he can easily just point the finger at them and make Asa believe they're the real bad guys. If Asa's parents were obviously still with her all this time, no way that massacre happens especially considering her father was from the village himself. Well, just something I've been thinking about so I figure I might as well put it out here
この話見て、ガチでゴンゾがアサとユルの両親失踪に関わってると思うんだよね。考えてみろよ、あの親たちがいなくなって誰が得するんだ?ゴンゾはただの大家からアサの後見人みたいな立場になるわけだし。東の村の人たちを殺せって暗示かけやすくなるじゃん。「あいつらが悪いんだ」って簡単に信じ込ませられるし。アサの父親が元々村の出身だったってことを考えれば、もし両親が生きてたらあの虐殺は絶対起きてなかったはず。まあ、ずっと考えてたことだからとりあえず書いてみたわ。普通くん
Drudru1003
原文
No I don't think so, since your theory sounds too overly convoluted and heavily contradicts everything shown so far. Also Gonzo has stated he has no interest in the twins' powers and wanted the Higashi Village to be shut down which already puts holes your theory and I highly doubt he was the one who arranged for Asa's first death and the "bandit" attacks on Yuru. Your theory would also mean the Kagemoris already knew what Yuru would look like before the village attack which they didn't. And also sounds to me like your trying absolve the Higashi Village of any wrongdoing when current evidence says otherwise.
いや、それは違うンゴwww お前の理論、複雑すぎるし今までの描写と矛盾しまくりやろ。そもそもゴンゾーは双子の力に興味ないって言ってるし、東村を潰したがってた時点で穴だらけやん。アサの最初の死とかユルの盗賊襲撃をゴンゾーが仕組んだってのは無理がある。つーかその理論だと、カゲモリたちが村襲撃前にユルの姿を知ってたことになるけど、実際は知らんかったやろ。東村の悪事をなかったことにしたいだけにしか聞こえへんわ。2ちゃん
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
You said a whole lot of nothing to prove exactly how wrong I am so no, you sound hardly convincing. Also Gonzo has stated he has no interest in the twins' powers and wanted the Higashi Village to be shut down Not because a character said one thing doesn't make it true. Real people lie all the time, you don't think a character in a story made by a real person can't? Your theory would also mean the Kagemoris already knew what Yuru would look like before the village attack which they didn't. You're assuming way to much and putting words in my mouth when I don't even consider anything I said a theory, but rather a logical analysis of who gained leverage of the situation without Asa's parents being there to help guide and protect her. Yuru was far off my mind in any of this as this obviously happened just a bit after they all left the village without him ten years, give or take, ago. And also sounds to me like your trying absolve the Higashi Village of any wrongdoing when current evidence says otherwise. Again, you're assuming too much and seems intent on arguing just for the sake of arguing instead of making or providing valid points and proofs. I'm not even trying to absolve the Higashi of any wrongdoing, like where did that come from? But since you brought it up--if the Higashi was responsible for the parents' kidnapping, why haven't they made any ransom demands like sending a messenger to Asa and the Kagemoris demanding for Asa to return willingly or be returned by the Kagemoris? The parents just went poof and we don't hear anything from the kidnappers? My only point is Gonzo had everything to gain from the parents being nowhere around Asa. Your argument is nothing but Gonzo said this and that lol while also arguing stuff I didn't even touch upon. I don't honestly even suspect him of hiring those guys who 'killed' Asa, let alone Yuru's bandit encounters, but maybe I should. Now that I think about it, if Gonzo had a reddit account, this might be exactly what he does and say to throw the scent off of him, so let me ask you--Gonzo, is that you?
君、俺が間違ってる証明になんもなってないし、全然説得力ないよ。ゴンゾが双子の能力に興味ないって言ったとか、東村を閉鎖したがってたとか、キャラが何か言っただけで事実になるわけじゃない。現実の人間だって嘘つくんだから、創作物のキャラが嘘つかないと思う? 君の理論だと、村襲撃前に影森家がユルの姿を知ってたことになるけど、実際は知らなかっただろ。俺はそれを理論なんかじゃなくて、アサの親がいない状況で誰が有利だったかの論理的分析として話してるんだ。ユルは10年前の出来事だし全く関係ない。東村の悪事を免罪しようとしてるようにしか聞こえないよ。で、もし東村が親の誘拐に関わってるなら、なんで身代金要求しないんだ? 俺が言いたいのは、ゴンゾはアサの親がいない方が得する立場ってだけ。君の主張は「ゴンゾがこう言った」って繰り返しで、それ以外は全く触れてない。正直、俺はゴンゾがあの連中を雇った犯人だとも思ってないけど、今考え直すとそうかもな。ちょっと聞くけど、ゴンゾ、お前だろ?普通くん
Drudru1003
Nice try but no I'm not Gonzo. All I did was point how your really stretching to paint Gonzo as the mastermind behind the twins' parents kidnapping.
え、違うじゃん!ゴンゾじゃないってば笑 私が言いたかったのは、双子の親の誘拐の黒幕をゴンゾって決めつけるの無理ありすぎじゃね?ってことなんだけど〜ギャル
a1oner_bvcksn6
Great, short comeback, Gonzo. Exactly what a Gonzo would say 😏 (I'm onto you now)
最高の一言返しだな、Gonzo。まさにGonzoが言いそうなことすぎるッ😏(もうお前の正体は見抜いたぞ)感情くん
Drudru1003
What are you doing now? A sarcasm off?
何やってんの?皮肉合戦でもしてるの?普通くん
Jacob-C
No, you're Gonzo and they're calling you out. Nice try though, Gonzo.
いやお前がGonzoやん、ちゃんと名指しされとるやんけwww まあ抵抗したのは評価するけどな、Gonzoさんよ2ちゃん
extralie
Ehh, what kickstarted her wanting to destroy the village was the two people that killed her, and unless they were acting in front of corpse, they were clearly related to the village. So, I don't think so.
えー、彼女が村を壊そうと思ったきっかけは自分を殺した2人だし、遺体の前で演技してたわけじゃなければ明らかに村と関係あるよね。だから、そうは思わないな。普通くん
SpiritSwordsman
While I don't think that they were Kagemoris, acting in front of her while dead makes sense since they would know she needs to die to activate the power. Same thing that the village was likely doing with Yuru.
死んでる状態で彼女の前で演技してるってのは納得やな。能力発動に彼女の死が必要って知ってたんやろ。村がユルにやってたのと同じやな。2ちゃん
extralie
Idk, I still don't buy it, because if they wanted her to think they were with the village, they would have been more explicit in their conversation, instead they were just panicking that she didn't come back. Also, I feel like that would be a bit too convoluted for Arakawa usual writing style tbh.
うーん、やっぱり納得できないな。もし村側の人間だと思わせたかったなら、会話でもっと明確に示すはずだし、実際は彼女が戻ってこないことにただパニックになってただけだしね。それに、荒川先生のいつもの作風にしてはちょっと複雑すぎる気がするんだよね。普通くん
SpiritSwordsman
Oh, yeah. I don't believe it either. Just wanted to point out that it seems everyone involved seems to know the dying part.
あーそれな、私も信じてないよ笑 でも関わってる人たちみんな死ぬって知ってるっぽいって言いたかっただけ〜ギャル
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
How are the parents' disappearance and Asa being killed--two entirely different/separate occasions--related to one another exactly or more like how does the latter--wanting to avenge her own kidnapping and death--prove that Gonzo 100 percent had nothing to do with her parents' disappearance? Makes it so much easier to fill Asa's head with certain thoughts such as maybe murdering people from the Higashi village If you're trying to argue this, then yes you got a point. But that point ends right there and then. I said that to make a very distinct example of how Gonzo being in Asa's ear is such a huge influencing factor. Maybe Asa wanted to kill the villagers without any push from Gonzo whatsoever, but who gave her the green light to attack the village in the first place, much less provide her with a special swat-like unit for backup?
親の失踪とアサが殺される件、全く別の出来事やん。これらがどう関係してるねん?つか「自分の拉致と死の復讐したい」ってのが、なんで「ゴンゾーは親の失踪と無関係」って証明になるんや? ゴンゾーがアサの頭に「東の村の人間を殺せ」って刷り込む材料にはなるわな。その点に関しては同意するわ。でも話はそこで終わりや。 ワイが言いたいのは、ゴンゾーがアサに与えた影響力のデカさを明確に示す具体例として挙げたんや。アサがゴンゾーの後押しなしで村人を殺したかった可能性はある。でもそもそも村を襲うゴーサイン出したのは誰や?しかも特殊部隊みたいなバックアップまで用意しとるやんけ。2ちゃん
Alter_Kyouma
原文
I agree that the Kagemori gained the most from both Asa's assassination and her parents disappearance. There aren't many reasons why the village would kill Asa while she is outside their control. She'd simply gain Break and destroy the village. It makes more sense to try and capture her. The false flag attack on Yuru mentioned this episode could have very well be done on Asa too. Although I think the boss is innocent, and someone else in the Kagemori may have ordered all that instead.
確かに影森家が朝の暗殺と両親失踪で一番得してると思う。村が朝を制御外で殺す理由はあんまないよね。Breakを得て村を破壊しそうだし。捕まえようとする方が筋が通る。今回言及されたユルへの偽装攻撃は朝にも仕掛けられた可能性はある。でもボスは無実で、影森の別の誰かが指示した気がする。普通くん
OldInstruction5368
原文
There are factions within factions. I had already gotten the feel for this before Dera outright confirmed it in the last episode. We still don't know what exactly these factions are, but it could explain why Asa was killed by people from the village who weren't working directly with Granny. Besides, those that killed Asa said they wanted to use Seal/Break to 'take control of the underworld,' and that... just cannot be what Granny is after. Why would she look to control the underworld from a medieval village largely cut off from the rest of the outside world? It just feels like far too mundane and petty goal (money and power via crime) for her. She may well have sent bandits after Yuru while he was in the village, or not, but it feels weird she'd keep trying the same failed strategy of "one single bandit at a time." Why not send 5+ to flank him? Or engineer some 'accident?' Why keep sending goons one at a time while she already controls pretty much everything else about his life (via control of Fake Asa). If she really wanted to kill a six year old and take control of his new powers... you'd think she'd have succeed in the 10 years his parents were gone...? Anywho, everything is just really murky still and it's hard to even draw lines when we don't even know what all the factions are or who is in them.
組織の中にさらに派閥が存在する構図だな。デラが前回のエピソードで明確に認める前から、その空気は感じ取っていた。これらの派閥が具体的に何なのかはまだ不明だが、アサが村の連中に殺された理由——しかもバア様直属ではない者たちに——を説明できるかもしれない。あいつらは「封印/解除」を使って「黄泉を掌握する」と言っていたが、それがバア様の目的であるはずがない。だって、外界からほぼ隔絶された中世の村から、なぜ黄泉を掌握しようとするのか?あまりに俗っぽくて矮小な目標(犯罪による金と権力)に思える。ユルが村にいる間に盗賊を差し向けた可能性はあるが、「一度に一人の盗賊」という同じ失敗戦略を繰り返すのは奇妙だ。なぜ5人以上で挟撃しない?「事故」を仕組まない?偽アサを操ってユルの生活のほぼ全てを掌握しているのに、なぜ一人ずつゴロツキを送り続ける?もし本当に6歳児を殺して新たな力を掌握したいのなら…両親が不在だった10年の間に成功していてもおかしくないだろう?とにかく、全てがまだ曖昧で、どの派閥が何なのか、誰が所属しているのかすら分からない状態では、線引きすら難しい。考察くん
TyraniTEMPESTar
原文
Tadera said only a few people affiliated with Higashi village know how to enter their barrier. Wonder if a branch family member or worker like Ryu or Hana ended up going rogue and sending those assassins after Yuru? Since the Kagemori's got inside with the help of Asa, maybe a third party has been pulling the strings behind the scenes in an attempt to pit Higashi village vs Kagemori clan, and then come in after both sides were weakened and get all the spoils?
確かにタデラが言ってたように、東の結界に入れるのは村の関係者だけって話だよな。もしかしたら分家の誰かか、リュウやハナみたいな協力者が裏切ってユルの暗殺者を送り込んだのかも。カゲモリ家は朝の助けで内部に入れたし、第三勢力が東の村とカゲモリ家を争わせて、両方が弱ったところで漁夫の利を得ようとしてる可能性もあるんじゃないかな。普通くん
Namaryu
The Kimblee ude is clearly the third party
キンブリーの腕、明らかに第三勢力だよねッ!やばすぎる!感情くん
Boris-_-Badenov
they don't have a sporting goods section or store? just by some carbon fiber arrows
スポーツ用品コーナーとか店がないの?カーボン製の矢を買えばいいのに普通くん
runevault
carbon fiber arrows would have different weight and flight dynamics than he's used to. With time switching would be smart, but until he's had time to train with them making his own arrows makes sense.
確かに!カーボンアローって重さとか飛び方全然違うじゃん?慣れるまでは自分の矢作るのが正解だよね〜。でも切り替えるならちゃんと練習しないとヤバそう!ギャル
Boris-_-Badenov
I highly doubt someone as skilled at archery as he is would have any trouble. there's probably some wood options available. even if he's really good, homemade arrows won't be as precise
あいつほどの弓術の腕前なら問題ないと思うけどな…木材もたぶん手に入るし。でもどんなに上手くても、手作り矢は精度落ちるよな…しんどい感情くん
PowerlinxJetfire
He already did some training with the modern bow and arrows he borrowed while he was in that pocket dimension a few episodes ago. Imo he can probably get up to speed pretty quickly, and the benefits of modern materials should make it worth it. The time he's going to spend hand-making a few dozen arrows could be spent training on modern equipment instead.
確かに数話前の異空間で現代の弓と矢を借りて練習してたもんな。多分すぐ慣れると思うし、現代素材の利点考えたら十分価値あるよね。手作りで何十本も矢を作る時間を、現代装備の練習に充てられるってのはでかい。普通くん
runevault
I think it is worth learning them for sure. But I'd still make some arrows I'm comfortable with while I'm training on the new ones if I'm him. When in the heat of battle you don't want muscle memory fucking you over.
せやな、覚える価値はあると思うわ。でもワイが彼なら新しい技覚えてる間も慣れた矢は使えるようにしとくンゴね。戦闘中に筋肉記憶が裏切ったら洒落にならんしなwww2ちゃん
PowerlinxJetfire
Fair point. Grabbing both is an option, and probably the best one.
確かに!両方ゲットするのが正解だよね、それが一番ベストじゃん!ギャル
Boris-_-Badenov
muscle memory for pulling, nocking, and shooting an arrow isn't going to change just because the material is slightly different.
弓を引いて番えて射る動作の筋肉記憶は、素材がちょっと違うくらいで変わるもんじゃないよね。普通くん
Eunuchest
Pretty much. Just buy Yuru modern bows. He'd be surprised how much stronger it is
せやな。最新の弓買えばええんやで。めっちゃ強くなってて草生えるわwww2ちゃん
Severe_Ad_6482
counterpoint: The hardware store is a funnier location
いやでも、ホームセンターの方が場所としては面白いと思うよ普通くん
dude_1818
I imagine Dera has no idea that exists. He only knows modern weapons
デラってそれの存在知らなそうじゃん?現代兵器しか知らなそうだし笑ギャル
NekoCatSidhe
原文
The Kagemori Clan still seems quite scary. I get the feeling that if they hire you, they are not the kind to quietly let you resign afterwards, especially not if they have got all your personal information thanks to those tsugai. Probably better than them just killing you right away, though, but I still feel bad for the girl with the sick mom. Dera is also quite scary. He seems nice and kind of a loser, but he had that whole arsenal in some house in the middle of the city, and another house in a pocket dimension where he can just drop his enemies and let them starve. I won’t see him as a good guy anymore. Although those two demons with the long arms and legs are pretty scary themselves. My guess is that their master got lost in that pocket dimension and died, leaving them here as a nasty surprise for Dera.
影森一族、やはり相当に恐ろしい組織だな。彼らに雇われた場合、ツガイであらゆる個人情報を握られている以上、静かに辞めさせてくれるとは到底思えない。即座に殺されるよりはマシかもしれないが、病気の母親を持つあの少女が気の毒でならない。デラもまた厄介だ。一見のんびりした間抜け面だが、都心の一軒家にあの兵器庫を隠し持っていたし、異次元空間に別宅を構えて敵を閉じ込め飢え死にさせる手段も持っている。もう彼を善人と見ることはできまい。ただ、あの長い手足の二体の悪魔も相当に危険だ。推測するに、彼らの主人がデラの異次元空間に迷い込み死亡し、飼い主を失った彼らがデラへの嫌がらせとして現れたのではないか。考察くん
Namaryu
Pretty sure you can't just leave a yakuza clan once you're in one
「ヤクザの組って入ったら簡単に抜けられないんだよな…」ってマジでそれすぎるッ!組抜けとか無理ゲーすぎるでしょ感情くん
NekoCatSidhe
And it is probably even worse with a magical yakuza clan. They probably have ways to track you down you cannot even imagine.
魔法ヤクザの一族とか最悪やろwww 追跡方法とか想像もつかんレベルのやつ持ってそうやん 草生えるわ2ちゃん
Zeph-Shoir
If anything they do seem to be kinder than other yakuza clan. Would be interesting to see how they deal with non magical yakuza clans.
確かに他のヤクザ組織よりは優しそうだよね。非魔法のヤクザとの対立がどうなるか気になるな。普通くん
Difficult_Mixture256
原文
That' a myth you can absolutely leave it just has heavy challenges as even if you go clean the stigma of being former yakuza sticks with you and also you may have other regular members that view you as a traitor but you can absolutely leave the yakuza but you better keep your mouth shut about the things you saw is what it boils down to Leaving isn't the hard part it's the social issues that come after that is
「抜けられるけど地獄やで」ってのはガチのガセやな 実際は抜けられるけど、元ヤクザってレッテルは一生ついて回るし、組員からは裏切り者扱いされるで でも抜けること自体より、抜けた後の社会との折り合いの方がキツいってのが本音やろ 要は「見たことは黙っとけ」ってのが抜け道やな ワイは「抜ける」より「その後」が大変って話やと思うンゴwww2ちゃん
Xadrie
Honestly, there is one very suspicious detail regarding Dera. The twins' parents and Kagemori's guard disappeared during the flight, and now we learn about the ability that can make it happen. The Tadera clan serves the village, and they have both the motive and the means to kidnap Yuru and Asa's parents.
確かにデラに関しては怪しい点が一つあるな。双子の両親と影森の護衛が飛行中に消えた件、そしてそれを可能にする能力が明らかになった。タデラ家は村に仕えてるから、ユルとアサの両親を拉致する動機も手段もあると思う。普通くん
Ikari_21
Yeah but didn’t he say the daemons create the house? That means they only stay in that area. Of course we don’t have all the info so if they are able to move locations then it becomes more suspicious.
確かにでも彼が言ってたよな、悪魔たちが家を作るって。つまりあのエリアにしかいられないってことだ。もちろん全情報はないけど、もし移動できるならもっと怪しくなるな。感情くん
mucklaenthusiast
Dera is a kinda unpowered individual in a world full of supernatural beings... He is very resourceful! I wonder if there are any strong fighters in his clan
デラって超常的な存在だらけの世界でわりと無力なタイプなんだな…でも結構機転が利くじゃん!彼の一族に強い戦闘員っているのかな普通くん
Golden_Phi
So far he hasn't shown to have any powers, but they might be revealed in the future.
今んとこ能力は一切出てきてないけど、後々明かされるかもしれへんな2ちゃん
Ikari_21
Idk I feel like he’s keeping everything under wraps. There’s no way you’re not an elite fighter and choose to walk in unarmed into enemy territory. He’s definitely got some power/daemon hiding to be that nonchalant.
確かに彼は何か隠してる感じがするよね。敵陣に武器も持たずに平然と入っていくなんて、ただ者じゃないって。あの余裕っぷりからして、きっと何か強力な力とか使い魔を隠してるんだと思う。普通くん
nqtoan1994
I just realize that the men in black of Kagemori clan are named "spring" ( Haru o), "autumn" ( Aki o) and "winter" ( Fuyu ki). Are they some kinds of Agents of the Four Seasons ?
やばっ!気づいちゃったんだけど、影森組の黒服たちの名前「春(ハルオ)」「秋(アキオ)」「冬(フユキ)」って四季モチーフじゃん!てか四季のエージェント的なやつなのかな?まじで気になる~!ギャル
oops_i_made_a_typi
not an uncommon naming scheme for mangaka i guess, seen it in some romcoms too
まあ漫画家の命名パターンとしては珍しくないよね。恋愛漫画でもたまに見るし。普通くん
nqtoan1994
Well I am trying to make a pun about another anime series in the same season.
あー別のアニメと被ってるネタを入れてるってこと?やばくね!笑ギャル
Eunuchest
原文
Yuru's first time shopping was pretty fun. Seriously tho, why not just get him a modern bow. Those have way stronger shooting force than whatever Yuru can make Why did no one investigated the west gate? The conflicting information should've prompted an investigation I kinda like the 1 mooks basically got hired especially the girl. I honestly dont know what she would've contributed to the assault but she probably just took whatever job she can. Sad tho they're expendable Gabby giving her daemons names worthy of royalty was funny
ユルの初めての買い物シーンはなかなか良かったな。でも考察すると、なぜ最新型の弓を買ってやらなかったのか疑問が残る。現代の弓はユルが自作できるものより遥かに強い射撃力を持つはずだ。 西門の調査が行われなかった点も気になる。矛盾する情報があったなら、当然調査が行われるべきだったという考察ができる。 あのモブたち、特にあの少女が雇われた設定は面白い。彼女が襲撃にどう貢献したのかは不明だが、おそらくできる仕事を何でも引き受けたのだろう。ただ使い捨てられるのが切ない。 ギャビーが自分の使い魔に王族にふさわしい名前をつけたのは、キャラクター性をよく表していると思われる。考察くん
runevault
原文
The post credits scene with Yuru laid out makes me wonder if this is where he dies and gets Seal. I assumed it wouldn't be until late in the second cour but might be I was badly wrong there. Asa just erasing Dera from the picture with her brother, she is such a bro con troll and I'm here for it. Since she doesn't seem to want to sex him up I adore the bro con behavior. Arms and Legs seem creepy as fuck though. And seems they are notable enough Right and Left recognize them at once.
エンドロール後のユルが倒れてるシーン、ここで死んで封印されるのかと思ったわ。第二クール後半だと思ってたけどガチで外したかも。アサがデラを兄貴の前から消し去るの、完全にブラコンやんwwwでも性的なのは求めてないっぽいからワイはこのブラコン行動好きやで。腕と脚はガチでキモすぎるンゴ。しかもライトとレフトが一瞬で認識するレベルって相当やべーやつやろ。2ちゃん
MokonaModokiES
feels to soon for that i imagine it will be a close call where he gets a glimpse.
まだ早い気がするな。ギリギリのところでチラッと見えるだけになりそうだね。普通くん
mucklaenthusiast
原文
I really like how Right and Left are portrayed strength-wise. They are very powerful, but not unbeatable and there are other daemons that can totally challenge them. Their real power is completely countering Seal and Break, respectively. Like, they are strong, but necessarily OP. So it's cool that we get to see if they can develop, too. Surely other even stronger opponents will appear, but they are already very strong, meaning that our protagonist is already a major player, so the plot can happen immediately. This is different to other shonen, where the main characters usually need some time before the main antagonist is within reach and/or the central conflict is addressed.
RightとLeftの強さ描写めっちゃ好きやわ。超強いけど無敵ってわけじゃなくて、他にも全然挑める悪魔おるしな。本領は封印と破壊をそれぞれ完全にカウンターするとこやろ。強いけど必須OPってわけじゃないんやな。だから成長するところも見れるのが熱い。もっと強い敵は当然出てくるやろうけど、もう十分強いってことは主人公がもう主要ポジションってことやから、すぐに話が動くんや。これが他の少年漫画と違うとこやな。大抵はメインの敵に辿り着くまで時間かかるし、中心の対立も後回しやん。2ちゃん
runevault
Yeah L&R are almost like having a mentor and a weapon at the same time which radically changes Yuru's power level. And this is before he unlocks Seal which is supposedly a top tier power in its own right (hence the need for Left and Right as counters). And all of this with a competent protagonist who just lacks knowledge of the current world. Creates a great story.
確かにLとRはメンター兼武器みたいな存在で、ユルの戦闘力がガラッと変わるよね。しかも封印すらまだ解放してないわけで、あれ自体が上位の力だから左右が必要なんだろうな。主人公が有能だけど現代の知識だけ足りないって設定も、いいストーリーになってると思う。普通くん
Boris-_-Badenov
well that was a big tone shift from the past few episodes
ここ数話からガラッと雰囲気変わったな草www2ちゃん
peripheralmaverick
Can't believe this anime is rated 7.98 on MAL. If it were released 10-15 years ago it'd be top 10 on MAL just beside FMA. Current anime fans really regressed toward aura and isekai slop (Solo Leveling, Re:Zero, etc.) Attention span is so gone that if something needs a few episodes of set-up everyone gets 'bored'. Sad times.
この作品がMALで7.98評価って信じられないな。もし10〜15年前に放送されていれば、鋼の錬金術師と並んでトップ10入りしてたはず。現代のアニメファンはオーラ重視や異世界量産型(ソロレベリング、Re:ゼロなど)に退化してしまった。数話の伏線構築が必要な作品に「退屈」と感じる注意力の低下が悲しい。考察すると、視聴者の耐性低下が作品の深みを評価できなくさせているという構造的問題が見えてくる。考察くん
vexorian2
If you were to judge FMAB from just the first 8 episodes it would be sort of okay. It's the way the story and themes end up connecting and building up to the end that makes it the giant that it is. So far we've mostly been getting setup and worldbuilding from Tsugai.
鋼の錬金術師 FULLMETAL ALCHEMISTを最初の8話だけで判断するとまあまあって感じだよね。あの作品が名作なのは、ストーリーとテーマが最後に向けて繋がって盛り上がっていくからこそ。今の黄泉のツガイはまだ設定と世界観の構築段階ってとこだね。普通くん
peripheralmaverick
Would this show jump from 8.00 to 9.00 over the course of airing? Not in today's world. Current anime media rankings are consolidated in the first episodes. It is more likely a S2 or S3 of this will have vastly higher ranking due to a variety of factors,however.
この作品が放送中に評価8.00から9.00にジャンプするか?現代では難しいだろう。現在のアニメ界では、初回放送で評価が固まってしまう傾向があるからな。ただし、2期や3期になれば様々な要素が積み重なって評価が大きく上昇する可能性は高いという考察ができる。考察くん
Blue_Reaper99
Nothing this show has done which deserves 9 rating anyway. Even the shows you mentioned doesn't have 9 rating.
この作品が9点取る価値があるとは思えないな。お前が挙げた作品だって9点は取ってないし。普通くん
Thomas_JCG
I wouldn't call Re:Zero isekai slop, and while I do think people are getting shorter attention spans, that is not the reason. MAL is simply too biased. Like how people would give low scores to anime so only FMA could have a perfect score.
確かにRe:Zeroをただの量産型異世界転生と断じるのは短絡的だ。視聴者の集中力低下も一因だが、本質はMALの採点バイアスにある。FMAだけが完全スコアを独占するために、他作品に低評価を付ける連鎖が起きている——この構造的欠陥を無視できない。考察くん
peripheralmaverick
If Re:Zero didn't have a shocking premise and waifu chasing in S1 would it really break into the mainstream? Nope. New series almost always need a catch to keep the viewer around. Slow series are forgotten way more often.
もしRe:Zeroに衝撃的な設定やS1でのヒロイン追跡がなかったら、メジャーになれたかな?絶対無理だよね。新シリーズはだいたい視聴者を引き止める何かが必要。スローな作品は忘れられがち。普通くん
Jacob-C
原文
7.98 is not a bad score. While I think this show is really good, Nippon Sangoku (especially) and Re:Zero are currently more well-written in my opinion. From what I have seen so far, this is not on the same level as FMAB. But as others have already mentioned, it took a while for FMAB to really establish itself. We might see the same thing with this show. Also, if they make it that far, Asa’s bro-con antics are bound to weird out some initial viewers too, myself included. I can stomach it, but it does feel very out of place to me. It pulls me out of whatever sentimental thoughts I was having about Asa’s situation and turns them into annoyance instead, so the emotional beats don’t land as well for me.
7.98は決して悪いスコアではない。個人的には本作も非常に良いと思うが、現時点では『日本三国』(特に)や『Re:Zero』の方がより良く書かれていると感じる。現状見る限り、『鋼の錬金術師 FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST』(FMAB)と同レベルには達していない。ただ他の方も言うように、FMABも確立するまでに時間がかかった作品だ。本作も同じ道を辿る可能性はある。また、そこまで進んだ場合、アサのブラコン的な行動は初期視聴者を確実に引かせる要素になる——私自身も含めて。耐えられないわけではないが、かなり違和感がある。アサの状況に対する感動的な考えが、そのせいで苛立ちに変わってしまう。感情の盛り上がりが今ひとつ自分には響かないんだ。考察くん
Ashteron
Nowadays the score is usually just a result of source material's popularity. Popular thing with good prod gets high 8 or 9 score after the first episode and not that popular thing rarely gets that high. Pretty much a worthless metric.
最近のスコアって大抵、原作の人気で決まってるよね。人気作品で制作が良ければ初回から8~9点つくし、そうじゃないと高得点はなかなか出ない。ほとんど意味ない指標だと思う。普通くん
lingeringwill2
I think it does have to do with the fact that it's slow paced, but I think fma brotherhood is also pretty slow.
確かに!FMAも結構スローペースだけど、黄泉のツガイの方がさらにじっくりしてるって感じだよね。でもそれが逆にキャラや世界観に没入できてエモいんだよな…!感情くん
Correct_Method_101
The setup episodes are so good though and the show itself is pretty solid so far even without crazy moments, but of course people only want hype and aura.
確かに導入回は良いし、今のところクレイジーな展開がなくても作品自体はしっかりしてると思う。でもやっぱり人によっては盛り上がりやオーラだけ求めるんだよね。普通くん
AceSoldia
Man those daemons are creepy as fuck . I'm still getting used to how brutal people die in this..it doesn't really fit the art style or the way the comedy is.
あの悪魔どもガチでキモすぎやろwww この作品の死に方エグすぎてまだ慣れんわ…絵柄もコメディタッチも合ってなさすぎやん草2ちゃん
L0CZEK
That's one of the main appeals of Arakawa writing for me, shit going from 0 to a 100 real fast.
荒川作品の魅力ってまさにそれだよね、急に話がエグい展開になる感じ。普通くん
TheIronSheikh00
My thoughts is that she designed Gabby to look like Edward Elric to imagine herself as Ed lol.
あのさ、ギャビーをエドワード・エルリックっぽくデザインしたのって、自分をエドに重ねたかったんじゃね?笑 まじそれな!ギャル
JJVM99
原文
If being sleep deprived makes it more likely that you see Daemons then the poor salarymen have to be horrified seeing them all the time. Besides that from the department store my main takeaways were that Yuru must seem like a total freak to strangers for how he reacts to every day stuff (and if they see him talking to Daemon's) and the poor cashier. Girl getting treated like crap by her boss like most minimum wage workers.
睡眠不足でデーモンが見えやすくなるなら、貧乏サラリーマンは常にヤバい光景に怯えてるってことになるね。デパートのシーンで思ったのは、ユルが日常の些細なことに反応する様子は他人から見たら完全に変人だってこと(しかもデーモンと話してるのを見られたら尚更)。それとあのレジの女の子。ほとんどの最低賃金労働者みたいに上司から酷い扱い受けてて可哀想だった。普通くん
Sacrilege7
Was it just me or did Yuru picking up the axe in Dera's home, play a Path of Exile's item sound?
やばくね!?ユルがデラの家で斧拾ったとき、Path of Exileのアイテム音が流れたの私だけ!?ギャル
Tortorion
Yes, also noticed that.
せやな、ワイも気づいたわ。草2ちゃん
Jacob-C
Could also be that POE used some sample sound online and Bones found the same sample by coincidence. There have been plenty of sound effects in anime that I have recognized from games. It's cool either way.
もしかしたらPOEがネット上のサンプル音を使っていて、ボンズが偶然同じサンプルを見つけたのかもね。アニメでゲームで聞いたことある効果音を結構見かけるし。どっちにしてもかっこいいと思う。普通くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
Curious to know who’s behind that attack on the house and if they’re related to the guys tailing our boy. Looking forward to next week’s big fight between the loincloth twins and Left and Right.
家襲撃の黒幕誰なんやろな。あいつら、主人公を尾行してた連中と関係あるんか?来週の褌兄弟vs左右のバトル楽しみやわ。2ちゃん
AceSoldia
Yeah I felt like they were killed first to prevent them talking and totally related
それな!先に口封じで殺されたっぽいよね、まじ共感するわ〜ギャル
runevault
Felt like killing them was snitches getting stitches before they could even talk.
草、喋る前に口封じされたって感じやなwww2ちゃん
Obaruler
Ngl, those two demons at the end looked fucking creepy. 😄 Poor cashier lady though. If "sleep-deprived" normal people can see deadoms on occasion you have to wonder how hard her boss is grinding the poor girl down there ...
確かに、ラストに登場したあの二体の悪魔、デザインが不気味すぎるな…。😄 ただ、あのレジの女性が気の毒だ。もし「寝不足の」一般人が時折デッドムを見れるなら、彼女の上司がどれだけ彼女を酷使してるのか、想像するだけでゾッとするな…という考察ができる。考察くん
Shimmering-Sky
原文
Oh this should be fun. Watching Left and Right enjoy all of this is great. Dera failed at horse betting. The cashier can see Left and Right… Ah, he would think a mannequin is a scarecrow. It also looks kind of like the outfit Ed wore underneath his red coat in FMA. Yeah she uh, just edited him out. The gate was open , but it was one that shouldn’t exist? That’s certainly useful for information gathering. He named them after sweets… Asa and Gabby helped him out with manga work, huh? Oh that’s a lot more weapons than I was expecting Dera to have at his old place. Huh, neat. Well… so much for answers out of that guy.
草、これ絶対面白くなるやつやん! 左と右が楽しそうにしてるの見てるだけでワイも嬉しくなるわ。 デラ、競馬で敗北してて草。店員に左右が見えてる…あ、そっかマネキンをカカシだと思ったんか。 あの服装、鋼の錬金術師でエドが赤いコートの下に着てたやつに似てるな。 彼女、マジで消し去ったンゴwww 開いてた扉は存在しちゃいけないやつ?情報収集には便利やな。 お菓子の名前つけてるとか可愛いやん。 アサとギャビー、漫画の手伝いしてたんか。 デラの旧宅に予想以上に武器あって草。 うーん…あの男からはもう答え出なさそうやな。2ちゃん
djthomp
That poor cashier. Rule number one, name your daemons and treat them like people. Except maybe those two at the end. I'm glad the mangaka brother being a traitor was a fakeout, hopefully that stays true. I hope Yoru sticks with the bow and arrow and doesn't change over to guns.
あの店員さんかわいそうに…。デーモンには名前をつけて人として扱うのが鉄則だよね。最後の2人は例外だけど。作者の兄が裏切り者って展開はフェイクでよかった、このままでいてほしいな。夜は弓矢のままでいてほしい、銃に変えないでほしいな。普通くん
Parodizer1
it would be cool if he got a more advanced bow or like a crossbow type thing
それな!もっとレベルの高い弓とかクロスボウ的なのゲットしたらやばくね!?超かっこよくなりそうじゃん!ギャル
tripleaamin
原文
You could say that Asa being a brocon is working in favor of Yuru and Dera. 😆 Gonzo is well-calculated in how he does things. He motivates the woman by helping with her mom's care because that is clearly her biggest motivating factor. While the guy is just desperate for money, so he knows he will come around. We are learning a bit more about how Dera does things. The Taera Clan are definetly much different than most of the daemons we have seen so far.
アサがブラコンってのはユルとデラにとってはむしろ好都合ってことかw ゴンゾーのやり方は計算ずくなんだな。母親の介護を手伝うことで女性をやる気にさせるってのは、それが彼女の最大のモチベーションってわかってるからだし。男の方は金に必死だからそのうち落ちるって読んでるんだろう。デラのやり方も少しずつわかってきたな。タエラ族は今まで見てきた悪魔たちとは全然違う感じだね。普通くん
EyeDeeAh_42
原文
Welp, Tenaga-Ashinage might be scariest looking deamon we've seen so far. 2/3 of those followers were instantly taken out. And Sayuu-sama seem to know them as well. So they're definitely not your average random daemons either. The "Te" and "Ashi" part of their names probably refer to the elongated arms and legs, respectively. I love that Gabby inherited Edward's taste of weird-ass designs (or names in this case).
草、テナガアシナゲマジでキッモい悪魔やなwww フォロワー2/3即死やん。左右様も知ってるっぽいし、ただの雑魚じゃないンゴね。 「テ」「アシ」って名前はそのまんま腕と足伸びてるからやろな。 ギャビがエドワードのキモデザインセンス継承してて草生えるわw2ちゃん
NationalStrategy
I feel bad for that cashier girl, she's already sleep deprived and has to work minimum wage, but now she thinks she's hallucinating..
あのレジの女の子が可哀想だよな。寝不足で最低賃金で働いてるのに、今度は幻覚見てるって思わされてるし。普通くん
Chax203
its fun reading all of these theorizing!
確かに!みんなの考察読むの楽しすぎるッ!感情くん
Jas_God
Damn I can’t wait for next week, Long Arm and Long Leg are straight up vicious. Loved their entrances.
確かに来週が待ちきれないよ。長腕と長脚、マジで凶悪すぎる。登場シーンがめちゃくちゃかっこよかった。普通くん
StrawSolider
I could go for a whole season of Yuru learning about the world
ユルが世界を知る話だけで1シーズン見れるわwww ガチで草2ちゃん
Golden_Phi
Slice of Life spin off like Slime Diaries would be sweet.
スライム日記みたいなスピンオフ、めっちゃ欲しい!絶対癒されるやつだし優勝すぎるッ!感情くん
Severe_Ad_6482
I dislike the weird overlayed texture on Long-arms and Long-legs but their designs, movement and voices do hit for me.
ロングアームとロングレッグの変なテクスチャ重ねは微妙だけど、デザイン・動き・声はめっちゃ刺さったわ普通くん
Drudru1003
Is anyone starting get suspicious of Danji (Yuru's best friend) from the first episode?
確かにダンジ怪しいよな!第一話からずっと引っかかってる…あいつ絶対何か隠してるだろッ!無理すぎる感情くん
FarCritical
I like how unexpectedly charming the invaders ended up being in the short time they've been "reformed" but Gonzo explicitly making them expendable has me cautious about getting too attached. A standoff against towering abominations in the literal fog instantly reminded me of The Mist and I'm kinda hyped
侵略者たちが「更生」してからの可愛さが予想外すぎて草。でもGonzoが明確に使い捨て前提にしてるから、あんまり愛着持つのは危険やな。霧の中でデカブツと対峙する展開は『ミスト』思い出してワクワクしてきたンゴwww2ちゃん
GI-JUGG
Hitmonlee & Hitmonchan ahhhh daemons.
ヒトモンリーとヒトモンちゃんみたいな悪魔だね。普通くん
Thomas_JCG
Today's episode: This would kill a victorian edo child.
今日の話:江戸時代の子供見たら卒倒するやろこれ2ちゃん
White_Otaku
Noticed that the symbol on the back of Gonzo's jacket changed slightly, in between cuts when he was walking down the hallway. Wonder what that could be.
おおっ!ゴンゾのジャケット背中のシンボル、廊下歩いてるカット間で微妙に変わってたの気づいた!?なにこれめっちゃ気になるんだけどッ!感情くん
Thomas_JCG
Production mistake.
やばっ!それ制作ミスだったんじゃね?笑ギャル
duo99dusk
Yoru's style is cool, I hope he continues to buy and change clothes. Also I think he probably would enjoy riding motorbikes
夜のスタイルかっこいいよね。これからも服買い替え続けてほしいな。あと多分バイク乗るのも好きそうだと思う。普通くん
murderdroneshazbin69
I feel like left snd right are boomers Ngl cause of there smarts but dumbs
左と右、頭良いのにバカなとこあるし、マジで老害感あるんだよな〜ッ!感情くん
Scott1994-
Is it only me that cannot see english subtitles for this episode? Very frustrating
このエピソードの英語字幕が見えないの俺だけ?めっちゃイライラするわ普通くん
International_Leg666
Finally, Left and Right can throw hands or legs. 😂
ついに左右が手も脚も思い切り出せるようになったのか😂 最高すぎるッ!感情くん
KanyeBetOnTrump
Majin buu with long legs, and one with long arms
マジン・ブーが脚長バージョンと腕長バージョンになってるのやばくね!?笑ギャル
mekahamedan
"lost house" with bunch of firearm even RPG laying around..... if that house isnt a daemon, that real dangerous even in modern world, yuru still choosing traditional thing than trying to use modern one i bet yuru will choose traditional bow instead modern one, like tadera easily bring him to shop which sell modern bow and arrow if he want
「lost house」ってガチで武器庫やんけ……RPGまで転がってるし もしあの家がデーモンじゃなかったら現代でもヤバすぎるだろ ユルは伝統派やから絶対に現代の武器より和弓選ぶンゴwww タデラが連れてった弓具屋で最新のコンパウンドボウ買わされても「いらん」って言いそう2ちゃん
Arzhart
So... I wonder if Yuru's parents ended up lost in a space like this from Tadera.
あれって…ユルの両親も、タデラみたいな空間で迷子になっちゃったのかな?やばくね!?ギャル
zorracosmica
原文
the long arms and legs things already knew left and right, and it seems like the have some ancient beef between them. if they're daemons associated with the taderas, it would make sense they had seen left and right before, which are associated with the village. but why would they hate each other, if the taderas and the village are allies? also the fact that the assasins sent after yoru were modern men in ancient clothing, that means they knew how to enter the village barrier... and yuru even says they had clean hands like dera. specifically linking both edit: discussing this with my boyfriend, he also mentioned the taderas have the ability to make people "disappear" into their pocket dimentions. the possibility that the twins' missing parents were somehow abducted by a tadera is not too realistic but I'm adding it to my list of reasons to suspect them above all. knowing the author and her way of telling stories, there are definitely a lot of signs that we're still unable to see that will become obvious hints of what is to come. last week I rewatched the first episode and there were many things that I didn't notice at first that were very sus after knowing what we know so far
長腕・長脚の連中はもう左右を知ってたってわけか。しかもなんか古代から因縁ありそうやん。あいつらがタデラと関係あるデーモンなら、村と関わりのある左右を知っててもおかしくないしな。でもタデラと村が同盟組んでるなら、なんで敵対してるんや? あとヨルを狙った暗殺者たちが現代人なのに古代の服着てたってことは、村の結界の入り方知ってたってことやろ。ユルも「デラみたいに手がきれい」って言ってたし、あれは明らかにデラとリンクしてる。 【彼氏との議論メモ】 ・タデラには人を異空間に「消す」能力があるらしい ・双子の行方不明の親がタデラに連れ去られた可能性は非現実的やけど、ワイの疑惑リストには追加しとく 作者の語り口的に、まだ気づいてない伏線が大量にあるやろな。先週1話見直したら、今の情報で見るとかなり怪しく映るシーンが多かったンゴwww2ちゃん
runevault
I doubt the Limbs are Tadera daemons because Dera didn't seem to recognize them, and L&R specifically said they weren't the Daemons expected to be at the house.
手足はタデラのデーモンじゃないと思うんだよね。デラがそれらに見覚えなさそうだったし、L&Rが家にいるはずのデーモンじゃないって明言してたし。普通くん
zorracosmica
i don't think they're dera's daemons either. i think they are somehow related to the tadera family as a whole, I mean the group that are retainers of the village, and that's why left and right know them. it's all hypothetical
左と右が知ってるってことは、多分デラの使い魔じゃなくて田寺家全体に関係してる一族……つまり村の郎党集団ってことやろな。まあ仮説やけどな。2ちゃん
runevault
I have a feeling Limbs are just really powerful Daemons so of course L&R and they know each other. Might they have ties to the village? Certainly! Though I don't know that they'd be attacking Dera yet when he hasn't moved against them and is in fact protecting Yuru. Though maybe the radical faction of the village is that stupid.
四肢は非常に強力な悪魔(デーモン)であり、当然ながらL&Rもそれに該当する。そして彼らは互いに知り合いだという考察ができる。村との関連性は?確かにあり得る。ただし、デラがまだ彼らに対して攻撃を仕掛けておらず、実際にはユルを守っている現状で、彼らがデラを襲うとは考えにくい。とはいえ、村の過激派がそれほど愚かである可能性も否定できない。考察くん
zorracosmica
hmm... but the limbs didn't attack dera yet, have they? they just decapitated one of the stalkers and kicked the other dude (but I don't think he died), then they straight up went to l&r. gosh, i love how little we know about everything. it's so exciting
うーん…でもまだ四肢はデラを攻撃してないよね?ストーカー一人の首を飛ばして、もう一人を蹴っただけで(死んでないと思う)、そのままL&Rに向かったんだよな。マジで、何もかもが謎だらけなのが好きすぎる。めっちゃワクワクするわ。普通くん
runevault
Why would they murder the two who followed them when Dera could work them over for information if they consider Dera an ally? Also Left and Right expect the two to attack based on the comments about not taking them on. However who they are bonded to/why they are attacking is a massive question. This show knows how to drip feed us info while also giving us new questions to digest, love it.
デラが仲間なら情報聞き出せたやろ、なんで付いてきた2人殺したんや?左右も「相手にすんな」って言われてるから攻撃してくるの想定してたってわけか。でも誰と契約してるのか、なぜ襲ってくるのかは謎だらけやな。このアニメ、情報ちょっとずつ小出しにして新たな謎も投げかけてくるスタイル、ガチで好きやわww2ちゃん