+1146
actionfirst1
Never really thought about how because of the barrier they've never had natural rain before, cool worldbuilding
あの結界のせいで、天然の雨すら一度も降ったことがなかったとは……実に興趣深い世界観構築であるな。武士+269
Frontier246
Also it's another clue as to Rosty being an Elfie clone because he just so conveniently had a counter to something Elfie apparently *just* created.
せやな、それにRostyがElfieのクローンって伏線やろ。Elfieが作ったばっかのもんに、都合良すぎるカウンター持ってるンゴwww2ちゃん+127
AceSoldia
Yeah I call it as umbrella!! ..bitch what? Lol
それな!俺は「アンブレラ」って呼んでるんだけど笑 …ちょっと何言ってんの?wwwギャル+84
powerhcm8
I mean, Umbrella can also protect against the sun, it's even in the name, Umbra = shadow.
せやな、傘って名前自体が「陰(Umbra)」って意味やし、日除けにもなるわな。でもロスティがエルフィのクローン説、ワイもガチで信じてるンゴwww2ちゃん+26
Boris-_-Badenov
if it's for the sun, it's a parasol
確かに、日傘はパラソルって言うもんな。普通くん+11
YonSaiSucks
I thought it was in the stratosphere or some shit lol. There's definitely rain or some alternative inside the barrier otherwise the world would've been in a famine before Elfaria invented the rain magic
確かにバリアは成層圏くらいまで届いてると思ってたわ。でもよく考えると、エルファリアが雨の魔法を開発する前は、バリア内で自然の雨が降らなかったから飢饉が起きてたはずで、その世界観の整合性が興味深いな。1話の伏線とも繋がる考察だ。考察くん+65
actionfirst1
They got magic for growing veggies I'm sure
確かに、野菜育てる魔法とかありそうだよね。普通くん+51
goffer54
Do they also use magic to keep all the trees and grass alive? Are there magic landscapers whose only job is making sure the plants survive?
え、まじで!?野菜育てる魔法あるなら、木とか草も全部魔法で生きてんじゃね?笑
庭師とかじゃなくて「植物生かす専門の魔法使い」がいるってこと?やばくね!?ギャル+24
WhoiusBarrel
Seeing Workner doing fine was great, hilarious to know he too is a protag in his own romcom.
The Headmistress stopping Ed's objection was such a power move, abuse of power meeting another one to overwrite it.
ワーグナーが元気そうで何よりだ…奴もまた、己のラブコメの主人公だったとはな、笑える真実よ。
学院長がエドの異議を封じた一撃、まさに権力の極致。一つの権力濫用が、別のそれによって上書きされる、運命の交錯よ。中二病+243
Ocixo
I first thought that Workner was entangled in a bit of a love triangle himself, but Clairie doesn’t actually have romantic feelings for him if I am to believe the information on her mid-roll card.
Eliza on the other hand is very much in love with Workner.
確かに、最初はワークナーも三角関係に巻き込まれてるのかと思ったけど、ミッドロールカードの情報を信じるならクレアリーは実際には恋愛感情を持ってないみたいだね。
一方でエリザは完全にワークナーに恋してる感じだし。普通くん+133
CuriousBroccolli
Claire looks like she just does not want anyone taking their super close trio bond. Not even potential lovers. 😆
Love our Hentai protagonist
まあ、クラリーはあの三人の絆を誰にも壊されたくないって感じだな。恋人候補すらもね。😆
うちのエロ主人公も可愛いもんだわ。ドライおじ+97
Frontier246
Honestly I think Clairie is so desperate for a boyfriend that she uses her close bond to Ed and Workner as a cushion because no other guy really associates/wants to date her.
せやな、Clairieは彼氏欲しさに必死で、エドとワークナーとの絆を心の拠り所にしてるだけやろ。他に近づく男おらんし、デートしたいって奴もいないからなw2ちゃん+50
Frontier246
A teacher who is seemingly immortal and a vampire teacher...I can ship it.
確かに、不死の教師と吸血鬼の教師……某もその組み合わせ、推せるでござる。武士+62
BotherSpecialist8276
Oh so do I .....God they look hot... I want someone to write a fanfic for this ship
我が魂もまた、その熱に灼かれているのだ…。不死の教師と吸血鬼の教師、運命の邂逅よ。誰かこの書を綴る者よ、現れよ。中二病+19
Hot-Log6283
A vampire that dislike both Night and Blood, what is she? An energy vampire?
確かにその組み合わせ、ちょっと気になるな。吸血鬼なのに夜も血も嫌いって、何なんだろうね。エナジーバンパイアって可能性はありそうだ。普通くん+8
YonSaiSucks
Do you know what Eliza's roll card says? Netflix doesnt have the translation
それな!エリザのロールカードの内容、Netflixだと翻訳されてなくて気になるんだよな…教えてほしいッ!感情くん+14
Zero3020
Here you go.
どうぞ。ドライおじ+39
actionfirst1
Workner has been a fantasy harem protag in his own anime
ワークナーが自分のアニメでハーレムものの主人公だったってのは笑えるな普通くん+72
Frontier246
No wonder he and Will had such an affinity for each other when they share the same ability to pull Best Girls.
せやな、ワーグナーとウィルはどっちも最高のヒロイン引き寄せる能力持ってるからなwwwそら相性も良くなるわ2ちゃん+31
CursedEye03
Even without the invention of Will's spell, I'm sure the Headmistress would have awarded Will those extra credits for killing the monster. More the enough for Will to advance.
Edward was screwed either way.
確かに、ウィルの魔法の発明がなくても、学園長はモンスターを倒した功績で追加単位を与えたと思う。それで十分ウィルは進級できただろうね。エドワードはどっちにしろ詰んでたってわけだ。普通くん+74
Falloutman399
For real, killing a monster that would even kill the Magia Vander? That should be worth like 10k points at least.
それな!マギア・ヴァンダーですら倒せないモンスターを倒したんだぞ?最低でも1万ポイントはあって当然すぎるッ!感情くん+60
Frontier246
Edward: "But...but...I had a really bad time at the tower and so will he!"
Workner: "Just shut up for once, Ed."
それな。マギア・ヴァンダーすら倒せるモンスター倒したんだから、最低でも1万ポイントくらいあってもいいよな。
エドワード:「でも…でも…俺は塔でめっちゃ辛い思いしたんだ、アイツもそうなるんだ!」
ワークナー:「ちょっと黙ってろよ、エド。」普通くん+47
cyne-wolf
It's worth 4,444 credits. At least, before it transformed.
マジそれな!魔導ヴァンダーすら殺すモンスター倒して4,444クレジットって安すぎるッ!変身前ならまだしも…もっと評価されるべきでしょ!感情くん+13
Frontier246
Also Caldron seemed like she was ascending Will to the tower half for his genuine achievements and half because she wanted to get him out of Finn's hands. so she was killing two birds with one stone.
確かに。カルドロンはウィルの実績を評価しつつ、フィンから引き離すために塔に上げた感じだよね。一石二鳥ってわけだ。普通くん+41
AceSoldia
Oooh ok I guess I wasn't sure what that was about..
おお、なるほどなw 確かにそういうことか、ちゃんとわかってなかったわ笑wwwおじ+9
Secure-Routine2439
i think there is a limit for How much points you can get from pratice, otherwise Will could just kill some monsters in the dungeon. He just needed one more point
確かに!でも実践で稼げるポイントって上限あるっぽくない?じゃなきゃウィルがダンジョンでモンスター倒しまくればいいだけだし笑 あと1点だけ欲しかったんだよね〜ギャル+8
Frontier246
I need more of Eliza flirting with Workner and Clairie fuming about it while Ed totally does not want to be there.
Ed was going to make a public spectacle to protest but we are having none of that. Dude just could not stop himself and give up until reality was thrown in his face!
エリザがワークナーに積極的にアプローチして、その度にクレアリーがムキになってる姿、もっと見たいよね。しかもエドは完全に「俺、ここにいたくない」オーラ全開で。
エドは公開抗議で大騒ぎしようとしてたけど、現実を突きつけられるまで諦められなかったんだろうな。あの展開、まさに彼のキャラクター性を象徴してると思われる。考察くん+21
Jacob-C
原文
I was lowkey hoping Finn would take Will. To me it seems like that would take the plot in a more interesting direction. They'd probably have to leave the town, go to new places, meet new people and focus on other things than just chasing after Elfie. From a worldbuilding and character growth perspective it could have done so much for the story, in my opinion. But, I don't know how the current turn of events will play out. I am just talking in hypotheticals.
Also, what was the whole thing about erasing Will's memories? At first I was frustrated because I thought we were about to lose all the progress to keep the story going for as long as possible. However, it looks like Will remembers everything he needs to remember.
確かに、フィンがウィルを連れて行く展開も面白かったかもな。新しい場所で新しい出会いがあって、エルフだけ追いかける話じゃなくなるし、世界観の広がりやキャラ成長的にも良かったと思う。でも今の展開がどうなるかはまだわからないし、あくまで仮定の話だけどな。
それと、ウィルの記憶消しの件は最初「今までの積み重ねが無駄になるのか」って焦ったけど、必要なことは覚えてるみたいでホッとしたわ。普通くん+20
EffectiveImportant51
原文
I think he is definitely scarred by something that happened in the tower. The show keeps alluding to he is the closest to the Magia Vander but he is not in the tower like the other aides we see of the Magia Vander. Also, we don't really see a dark magic camp either. I am just wondering what happened to him that he is not serving in the tower. When he seems highly qualified to from what everyone else says about him.
塔で何かやらかしてトラウマ抱えてるんやろな。マギア・ヴァンダーに一番近い存在って言われてるのに、他の補佐官みたいに塔にいないしな。闇魔法キャンプも見当たらんし。あいつが塔で働いてない理由、ワイ気になって仕方ないンゴ。周りの評価見る限り十分有能なのに。2ちゃん+8
Overall_Waltz_371
They said in this episode that he is immortal
このエピソードで彼は不死身って言われてたね普通くん+5
Primo29
Sion being the first to clap said so much. Such a tsundere!
Congrats to Will! The first step in his climb up the tower begins next episode.
シオンが最初に拍手したのやばくない!?まさにツンデレじゃん笑
ウィルおめでとー!塔を登る第一歩が次回から始まるんだね、楽しみすぎる!ギャル+242
CuriousBroccolli
It takes a lot of balls to be the one to clap first, not only due to his past with Will, but also due to him being part of one of the strongest noble clans and having to stand behind someone that goes against everything they stand for. (Even after he saved their asses)
確かに。シオンが最初に拍手したのはすごい勇気だよね。ウィルとの過去だけじゃなくて、最強貴族の一員でありながら家の理念に反する奴を(助けてもらった後とはいえ)支持しなきゃいけないんだから。普通くん+118
Frontier246
He even beat Colette to doing it (although she quickly recovered).
やばっ!コレットより先に拍手しちゃうとかマジで強心臓すぎるじゃん!?
(まあコレットもすぐ立て直してたけどね笑)ギャル+55
PeaceAlien
Idk watching Julius this episode makes me think he's even more of a tsundere. Sion is more supportive these days.
確かにシオンはツンデレだけど、ジュリアスも負けてないと思う。最近のシオンの方がサポートしてる感じだね。ウィルおめでとう!塔登りの第一歩だ。普通くん+92
Frontier246
Julius clapping while looking like he knows how much of a hypocrite this makes him look but he can't stop himself lol.
確かに!ジュリアスが拍手してる時の顔、自分がどれだけ矛盾してるか分かってる感じがして最高に笑えるw ツンデレすぎるッ!感情くん+69
3shotsdown
Julius "I don't succumb to peer pressure" Reinberg
それな。ユリウスが「周りに流されない」って言いながら拍手してるの、自分でも矛盾わかってて笑えるw普通くん+69
Jacob-C
Speaking of Julius, I actually agreed with him in that classroom scene. At least he is consistent in his ideals. He was right about everyone else just changing their opinion about Will because he saved their lives. They could have recognized his efforts and how capable he was (even without his wis magic) long before now.
せやな、ユリウスはあの教室のシーンはワイも賛成やわ。少なくとも自分の信念は一貫しとるしな。他の連中がウィルに命救われてから急に態度変えたのは、ユリウスの言う通りやと思うわ。もっと前から彼の努力や実力(ウィス魔法無しでも)認められたやろ。2ちゃん+22
AriezKage
原文
On the other hand I kind of disagree with Julius here. Is it a hypocritical for the other classmates to turn around in regards to Will? Yes, but that is something they have to deal with as a consequence to their past actions. At the moment they're trying to be more considerate of Will now, which is the first step in showing their gratitude. And it's better late than never.
Julius is worst off because his solution suggests to not change after being saved. And that makes him look a little ungrateful.
Ideals aren't meant to be set in stone. Ideals and opinions can be changed with proper knowledge, circumstance, and understanding. Julius didn't seem very open to change, which is ironic for the water/ice mage since fluidity is stereotypically the water mage's MO.
確かにジュリアスには同意できないかな。クラスメイトたちがウィルに対して手のひら返ししたのは偽善的だけど、それも過去の行いの結果として向き合うべきことだし、今は感謝を示そうとしてるんだから遅すぎることはないと思う。
ジュリアスの方が問題で、救われた後に変わろうとしない解決策を提示してるから、ちょっと恩知らずに見えるんだよね。
理想は固定されるものじゃなくて、知識や状況、理解によって変わるべきもの。水魔法使いのくせに柔軟性がないって皮肉だな。普通くん+12
polycontrale
Sion best boy.
確かに!シオンが最初に拍手したのエモすぎるッ!ツンデレすぎるだろ…ウィルの塔登り、第一歩おめでとう!シオン優勝感情くん+36
Frontier246
He's not so secretly been Will's #1 fanboy since season 1.
せやな、Sionはガチでベストボーイやわ。シーズン1からずっとWillの隠れファン1号やったんやろなwww2ちゃん+8
robgonebonkers
I totally teared up when Sion was the first to clap. Such a full circle moment.
シオンが最初に拍手したの、マジで泣けたわ。伏線回収って感じだったね。普通くん+12
Frontier246
>Congrats to Will! The first step in his climb up the tower begins next episode.
He's got an ice princess up top and he's about to ascend the tower to reach her!
「ウィルの登頂が次回から本格始動かw 上には氷の姫が待ってるってわけね笑」
(意訳:登頂の第一歩が次回から始まるってことか。頂上にいる氷の姫を目指して登るストーリーになるんだなw)wwwおじ+5
Nghtmare-Moon
Collette not being first also said so much.. I bet Rosty would’ve clapped before Collette 👀
確かに!コレットが最初じゃなかったのもいろいろ語ってるよね笑 ロスティなら絶対先に拍手してたやつじゃん!?ギャル+5
sewerdiving
I got a magic sword and went super saiyan and saved the town and then I got a mage hat and EVERYONE CLAPPED.
"lmao yea ok Will, sure you did."
「魔法の剣を手に入れて超サイヤ人になって町を救って、それから魔法使いの帽子を被ったらみんなが拍手してくれたんだって」
「はは、そうかよウィル、お前がな」って感じだな。普通くん+201
Frontier246
Will: "You have to believe me! My best male friend who is totally a real guy had to die to spur on my character development!"
草ァ!それなww
ウィル「信じてくれ!俺の男の親友(もちろん実在する)が死んでキャラ成長しなきゃならなかったんだ!」
もうベタすぎて笑うわwww2ちゃん+66
AlphaBreak
"and his dick was bigger than mine! This is important canonical information for some reason"
「しかもそいつのアレ、俺よりデカかったんだ!なぜか重要な公式設定らしい」普通くん+48
TheSkuf
He got better though!
それな!でも結局復活したじゃん笑ギャル+12
Aerodynamic41
Good on the headmistress for overruling Edward. At long last, Will's hard work has finally paid off!
校長先生がエドワードを差し置いて決断してくれてよかったね。ようやくウィルの努力が報われたって感じだ!普通くん+169
CursedEye03
Anime Snape was petty until the very end. I've expected nothing less from him, of course.
But that is in fact a big W for the headmistress. Will work the hardest out of everyone and his efforts finally paid off.
確かに学院長の判断は英断だったな。エドワードはまさにアニメ版スネイプよろしく、最後まで小物感を貫いたと言える。予想通りだったが。
しかし学院長の決断は大きな勝利だ。ウィルは誰よりも努力してきたし、その成果がようやく報われたという考察ができる。彼の成長が今後の伏線になると思われる。考察くん+122
Etiennera
I mean he was sort of redeemed by a one-liner here. He was doing it to protect will and also out of his own unresolved regret and failure.
Of course, he doesn't believe in Will enough, but it's not like he knows Will is the main character.
確かに。あの一言である意味救われた感あるよね。ウィルを守るためだったし、自分の後悔や失敗から来てた行動だし。
もちろんウィルを信じ切れてなかったのは事実だけど、まあ彼が主人公だって知らないんだから仕方ないか。普通くん+108
CursedEye03
Even so, his methods were just too cruel. He was constantly bullying him and when he saw that Will didn't break psychologically, he simply made an impossible test so he can fail him. It's simply a jerk move.
せやけどあのやり方はあんまりにも酷すぎるやろ。ずっとイジメ倒して、ウィルが精神的に折れへんの見てから無理ゲー課して落とすって、完全にクソ野郎のやることやん。2ちゃん+79
IntroductionIcy7320
How could a sane person even NOT believe in will after his display of defiance against the odds. Motherfuckers last name might as well be power
確かに。あれだけ逆境に立ち向かう姿を見せられたら、ウィルを信じない方がおかしいよな。奴の名字はパワーでいいんじゃね。普通くん+5
TheBusStop12
>I mean he was sort of redeemed by a one-liner here. He was doing it to protect will and also out of his own unresolved regret and failure.
>Of course, he doesn't believe in Will enough, but it's not like he knows Will is the main character.
Not beating the anime Snape allegations
せやな。ワンライナーでちょっと救われた感あるわ。ウィル守るため&自分の未解決の後悔や失敗からああなったってのは分かるンゴね。
確かにウィルへの信頼は足りんけど、アイツが主人公やなんて知らんしな。
アニメ版スネイプ疑惑、まだ払拭できてへんやんwww2ちゃん+5
KainFourteh
It wasn't out of pettiness though. In his own way he was trying to protect him.
確かに、でも単に意地悪だったわけじゃないと思う。彼なりのやり方で守ろうとしてたんだよね。普通くん+10
polycontrale
Best moment of the entire episode was just her holding out her hand to silence his annoying ass.
それな!手をかざしてエドワードのうるさい口を黙らせたシーン、あれが今週のベストすぎるッ!感情くん+22
Frontier246
Bruh was willing to make a spectacle on the stage to protest one kid who saved the city fully graduating lol.
せやな、あの場面はマジで草www
街救ったガキが卒業するのを阻止するために舞台で大騒ぎするって、頭おかしすぎやろw2ちゃん+11
roronoa20
The flag where Rosti = Elfaria is definitely larger than Burj Khalifa.
ロスティ=エルファリアの旗、間違いなくブルジュ・ハリファよりでかいな。普通くん+157
SnooSquirrels3291
Can’t believed I didn’t notice til this episode that his names are only one letter each away from being Frosty Snowman
草ァ!ロスティ=エルファリアのフラグ、ブルジュ・ハリファよりデカすぎるやろwww
しかも名前がFrosty Snowmanと一文字違いってマジかよ、ワイ気づかんかったわ2ちゃん+122
Frontier246
And you could rearrange it to say that Rosty is "no man."
それな!気づかなかったんだけど確かにやばくね!?笑 てかRostyが"no man"って並び替えられるのアツすぎるじゃん!ギャル+57
mucklaenthusiast
Or even..."now man".
Considering, well, someone is now a man.
Such a funny name, I actually chuckled this episode.
I don't know if it was revealed before, but it caught me by surprise.
確かに。Rostyって"now man"とも読めるよね。
今回のエピソードでその名前の面白さに気づいて笑っちゃった。
前から判明してたのかは分からないけど、知らなかったから結構驚いたよ。普通くん+7
NanDemoKnaives
I just realized that too this episode lol. Took me long enough.
それなwww ワイも今気づいたわ。気づくの遅すぎたンゴ笑2ちゃん+9
Mediocre-Act483
Makes you wonder what his middle name is. Maybe "He". Rosty He Nowman.
「Rosty He Nowman」って……笑ったw ミドルネーム「He」は草すぎるッ! 気づかなかった自分が悔しい!感情くん+9
Designer_Pen869
原文
It's funny, because it occurred to me during the fight with Julius (Ice Shion). He said Elfaria created it, and then it was revealed she was only two when she made it. So she had to have advanced it, right? And the next step would be to make copies of other people.
And then the fact that Rosty seemed to revolve his whole life around Will, despite only being roommates and the fact that she seems to have eyes on the ground.
Idr if it was there that I realized Rosty was her or if it was when Rosty appeared out of nowhere in the labyrinth, used water magic, and seemed to know more about Will's powers than Will. And then him turning into ice when he "died" cemented it for me.
確かに草。ユリウス戦で「エルファリアが作った」って言われて、しかも当時2歳ってマジかよってなったわ。絶対その後成長させてるやろ、他人のコピー作る方向に進化したんやなって。
んでロスティがウィルにベッタリなのも怪しいし、何より迷宮でいきなり現れて水魔法使って、ウィルの能力について本人より詳しかったのが決定的やったわ。氷になって消えたシーンで確信したンゴwww2ちゃん+25
Mediocre-Act483
Or Mashin Chaser being Proto-Drive. Or Dabi from MHA being... well, you know. And neither of those were exactly subtle
わかるッ!マシンチェイサー=プロトドライブとか、MHAの荼毘の正体とかね。どっちも全然サブリミナルじゃなかったしな…。エモすぎる伏線の連続だよッ!感情くん+7
OblivionNA
Man I really want to know more about Finn, such a mysterious character
フィンについてもっと知りたいな、すごく謎めいたキャラだよね普通くん+155
y3kman
I just assume he's the same Finn from Danmachi.
確かにフィンは謎すぎるンゴwww
ダンまちのフィンと同一人物やと思っとるわ
続報待ちやな2ちゃん+128
Labmit
Different characters. Fun fact: Oomari wanted both Finn's the same height but Wistoria's artstyle stretched W!Finn to be a foot taller than D!Finn.
違うキャラだよ!おもしろい事実:大森先生は両方のフィンと同じ身長にしたかったんだけど、ウィストリアの画風のせいでW!フィンがD!フィンより30cmくらい伸びちゃったんだってww それな感情くん+51
Uanaka
I was confused, so I just looked it up and I didn't realize until this episode that are in the same author universe! I wonder if we'll get some crossovers or something
え、マジで!?私も最初混乱したんだけど、調べてみて今回の話で同じ作者の世界観だって気づいたんだよね!クロスオーバーとかあったらやばくね!?ギャル+15
OldInstruction5368
原文
I mean, he's not the only one.
Last season we saw two elven mages that were lifted straight out of Danmachi. They have the exact same names, same appearance (with different clothes), and more or less the same personalities.
So far, that's at least three characters more or less "recycled" from the author's previous work... unless we later learn there is some portal connecting these worlds and a few people from Danmachi fell through into Rigarden.
確かに、それだけじゃないよね。
前シーズンでもダンまちからそのまま持ってきたようなエルフの魔術師が2人出てきたし。名前も見た目もほぼ同じで(服は違うけど)、性格もだいたい一緒だったし。
今のところ、作者の前作から少なくとも3人は「使い回し」されてる感じだね…後でこの世界をつなぐポータルがあって、ダンまちの住人が何人かリガーデンに落ちてきたって設定が判明しない限りは。普通くん+14
Chukonoku
原文
I mean, there are also way too many other parallels.
The Tower and the dungeon structure. The motivation to get stronger due to a female character who is one of the strongest persons in the setting. The fights between factions/families. Containing the monsters in the dungeon while having to eventually deal with the big bad boss at some point. Our underdog MC, who through sheer effort and hidden special ability, is able to overcome most challenges despite been mocked by peers, while getting support "secretly" from a power figure.
せやな、それ以外にもパラレル多すぎやろ。
・塔とダンジョンの構造
・設定最強クラスの女性キャラがきっかけで強くなる動機
・派閥/ファミリー間の抗争
・ダンジョンにモンスター封じ込めつつ、いつかはラスボス戦やらないかんってとこ
・周りにバカにされながらも努力と隠された特殊能力で乗り越える下克上主人公
・権力者が陰でサポートしてくれるパターン
もうダンまちそのものやんけ草2ちゃん+9
HolyDragSwd2500
Not the same person
Same character design for both series and seiyuu
違う人だよ
両方のシリーズで同じキャラデザと声優なだけ普通くん+9
UnWiseSageVibe
I know,
Mysterious character that every mage is afraid of and even the villains made a plan to distract him ?
Super interested in him
せやな、分かるわ
全魔法使いがビビってて、敵ですら奴を引き離すための策を練るレベルのミステリアスキャラってガチで興味湧くンゴwww2ちゃん+43
Frontier246
And even the "good guys" are divided over whether they want to give Will to him.
確かにッ!魔術師全員が怖がる謎のキャラ、悪役も対策考えるレベルってヤバすぎる…で、味方側すらウィルを渡すか迷ってるのエモすぎるッ!感情くん+33
TheBusStop12
It seems to be implied as well that he's at least 500 years old
あのキャラ、魔術師みんなが恐れてて、敵側までわざわざ気をそらす計画を立てるって設定、めっちゃ良いよね。しかも少なくとも500歳以上って暗示されてるみたいだし、それも最高だな。普通くん+26
Frontier246
Why was Will deliberately kept away from him?
What is going to be set in motion if he has free rein over Will (the Celestial Host)?
Why did Caldron prioritize putting him in magic instead of sword training with Finn?
Why does Iris hate him so much?
フィンに関しては確かに謎が多いな。ウィルが彼から意図的に遠ざけられていた理由、もしフィンがウィル(天の器)を自由に操れるようになったら何が動き出すのか、カルドロンがフィンとの剣術訓練よりも魔法を優先させた意図、そしてアイリスがあそこまで彼を憎む理由――これらの伏線がどう回収されるか、かなり気になる展開だ。考察くん+33
nofaxxspitintruflego
and the memory manipulation is tripping me out
like has wil been a kid for 500years? or just dormant until he could grow up in the right time
i mean clear thing is finn + mage queen are chummy and will her kid so they gonna save le world duh
記憶操作がマジで混乱するわ
つまりウィルは500年間子供のままだったのか?それとも適切な時期まで休眠してただけなのか?
はっきりしてるのは、フィンと魔女王が仲良くて、ウィルはその子ってことだろ。で、世界を救うって話なんだよね。普通くん+45
No-Indication-5673
Dude, the memory manipulation. I had to rewind that part to make sure I read it correctly and through most of the episode that was in the back of my mind.
what exactly is caldron manipulating his mind for?
what does she not want him to know or realize yet?
Finn is one patient MF’er though he keeps asking for the kid and she just finds loopholes to keep Will away from Finn 😂
記憶操作のくだりやばすぎやろ
あのシーン巻き戻して確認したわ、ずっと頭から離れへんかった
カルドロンは何のためにウィルの記憶いじってるんや?
何をまだ知られたくないんや?
フィンはガチで我慢強いな
ずっと坊主に会いたがってるのに、カルドロンは抜け道探して引き離しまくってるやんwww2ちゃん+25
Hugokarenque
Yeah the memory stuff has me intrigued. At first I thought they were gonna wipe Rosty from his memory to make him more stable, but he still remembers Rosty.
What were they doing? It also seems like it may not have been the first time they've done it either, looks like the headmaster may have been tampering with his memories for a while now
確かに記憶操作の設定は気になるな。最初はロスティの記憶を消してウィルを安定させるのかと思ったけど、まだ覚えてるんだよな。
何が目的なんだろう?しかも初めてじゃなさそうで、学院長がずっと前から記憶をいじってたっぽいのが気になる。普通くん+12
bbhldelight
finn is the real wistoria such a fun yet mysterious character
それな!フィンこそ本当のウィストリアだよな。めっちゃ謎めいてて面白すぎるッ!もっと知りたい気持ちマジでわかる!感情くん+19
Ikari_21
The real wistoria was the Finn we met along the way
確かに、フィンこそが真のウィストリアだったって感じだね。彼は楽しいけど謎も多くて面白いキャラだと思う。普通くん+9
xFluffyDemon
How tf have i never picked up on **F***R*osty **S***N*owman before
まじで今まで気づかなかったんだけど!?**F***R*osty **S***N*owmanやばくね!?ギャル+145
Uanaka
I wonder what that could mean? hmmm? 😛
それな、気づかんかったの草
まさか伏線だったんか…?🤔2ちゃん+43
rednick953
Obviously his parents were isekaid from the US. That is definitely the only that it could be for this normal human boy.
確かに、彼の両親がアメリカから異世界転生してきたってことだよね。それ以外に考えられないじゃん、この普通の人間の男の子には。普通くん+35
NanDemoKnaives
I'm glad to see more people only realizing this episode like myself lol.
それな!私もこの回でやっと気づいたクチなんだけど笑
まじで今までなんで気づかなかったんだろうって思うよね〜ギャル+18
Mediocre-Act483
I'm surprised that anyone is only realizing it now
まじで今更気づいた人いるの!?俺も最初から気づいてたけどな!(笑)感情くん+6
Frontier246
Rotsy Nowman, was a kindly, dashing soul...when Will was down, he turned that frown upside down and was there for him like Elfie.
確かに、Rotsy Nowmanってエルフィみたいな存在だよね。ウィルが落ち込んでる時に励ましてくれてたし。普通くん+11
Mediocre-Act483
I mean she created that ice clone spell when she was 2, and control 10 of herself. Creating an opposite sex clone that she could remotely control would be like putting together a puzzle for a two-year-old.
2歳で氷の分身魔法作って10体同時操作とかガチで頭おかしいやろwww
異性の遠隔操作分身なんて2歳児にはパズルみたいなもんやんけ草2ちゃん+7
excluded
I’m gonna miss Lihanna’s old outfit.
リハンナの前の衣装、見れなくなるのはちょっと寂しいな。普通くん+112
NationalStrategy
It’s the garter belt, isn’t?
それな!ガーターベルトが無くなるのしんどすぎる…ッ!感情くん+114
CuriousBroccolli
Absolutely. 🗿
確かに。それだね🗿普通くん+62
NationalStrategy
Understandable 🤝
それな。完全に同意🤝感情くん+34
Frontier246
Wait, we're going to lose the thighs and garter belts? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
確かに、ガーターと太ももが消えちゃうってこと?やめてくれよ…普通くん+44
swordmalice
Truly the monkey's paw of ascending the Tower for us men of culture.
草、それな。塔登ったらマジで太ももガーター消えるとかマジかよ……男の涙やわンゴwww2ちゃん+18
Nesp2
I had no idea Workner is this popular with the ladies.
えっ、ワークナーってこんなに女子人気あったの!?知らなかった…ってかマジで驚きすぎるッ!!感情くん+112
the_48thRonin
Not surprised, he's a caring, gentle personality and has bishounen looks.
それな。優しくて気遣いできる性格に加えて、ビジュアルもイケメンだし、人気出るのは当然だよね。普通くん+85
Frontier246
Plus he's voiced by Tomokazu Seki (Domon Kashu, Kougami, Gilgamesh, etc.)
Also look at all those flowers by his bedside, he's **really** popular at this school.
せやな、関智一(ドモン、狡噛、ギルガメッシュとか)の声優やしな
つーかベッドの横の花の量見てみ?学校でガチ人気者やんwww2ちゃん+41
ebonyphoenix
Sorry Clairie & Eliza, Ed is Workner’s real work wife.
I wonder just *what* memories Cauldron edited in Will.
How did I know Sion would be the first one to support Will... even with a frown on his face. He’s not losing his tsundere title anytime soon.
クラリーとエリザには悪いけど、エドこそがウォークナーの本当の仕事妻だと思うんだよな。
カウルドロンがウィルに何の記憶を編集したのか、本当に気になる。
シオンが真っ先にウィルを支持するって分かってた…不機嫌そうな顔しててもな。彼のツンデレ称号はまだまだ揺るがないな。考察くん+95
Frontier246
Notice how Workner barely reacted to two women fighting over him and only cared about Will lol.
It seemed like he remembered everything about the fight so what else could be edited? Elfie helping him?
Sion was just waiting for his Will cheer moment the whole episode.
確かに。Worknerが二人の女性の争いに全然興味なくて、Willのことだけ気にしてたの笑えるよね。
戦いの記憶は全部覚えてるみたいだし、他に編集されたとしたら何だろ?Elfieが助けたこととか?
SionはずっとWillを応援する瞬間を待ってただけっぽいな。普通くん+27
AceSoldia
I'm wondering about this too .I'm guessing Finn's blood may have given access to some of his memories to Will that he shouldn't have yet..so those were deleted?
それな!ウィルがフィンの記憶見ちゃったやつ、まだ知っちゃダメな情報だったから消されたってことかもね!やばくね?笑ギャル+28
TheBusStop12
>Notice how Workner barely reacted to two women fighting over him and only cared about Will lol.
Worker already has gone through 4 Seasons and an After Story OVA harem romcom that we just didn't see. Dude is used to it by now
確かに。Worknerはすでに俺たちの知らない4シーズンとアフターストーリーOVAのハーレムラブコメを経験してるから、今や慣れっこなんだろうな。普通くん+15
tripleaamin
>Sorry Clairie & Eliza, Ed is Workner’s real work wife.
Kind of like how it is with Sion for Will 😆
確かに!それな!シオンとウィルの関係と同じすぎて草w感情くん+22
Mediocre-Act483
"How did I know Sion would be the first one to support Will... even with a frown on his face. He’s not losing his tsundere title anytime soon."
Simple. They're rivals. He knows Will deserved this more than anyone, even himself. Besides, if Will doesn't ascend, he'll never get to beat him.
はは、サイオンが真っ先にウィルを支持するって分かってたよ…しかもしかめ面でさ。ツンデレの座はまだまだ譲らないね。
単純な話だよ。二人はライバルだからね。サイオンは自分以上にウィルにふさわしいって分かってるんだ。それに、ウィルが昇格しなかったら、いつまで経っても倒せないしな。普通くん+12
EclipseTM
Can't believe I'm saying this after the start of season 1, but sion my GOAT.
まじでシーズン1の最初からは信じらんないんだけど、シオンが俺のGOATすぎるじゃん!ギャル+83
Frontier246
Elfie and Colette adore Will but Sion has truly been Will's biggest champion in his own way.
せやな、シオンはワイのGOATやわ。エルフィやコレットもウィル好きやけど、シオンは独自のやり方でウィルの一番の理解者やったンゴwww2ちゃん+42
TheBusStop12
Will really is exactly like Workner. 2 chicks and the best bro Ed/Sion
マジでウィルってワークナーとそっくりじゃん!?彼女2人に親友のエド/シオンって、まじで最高の布陣じゃん笑ギャル+20
tripleaamin
He and Lihanna are my favorites among the cast.
せやな、シオンとリハンナがワイの中ではダントツやわ。まじで推せるンゴwww2ちゃん+9
DirectAd7229
What did Headmistress mean when she said she was editing Will's memories?
校長がウィルの記憶を編集するって言ったのはどういう意味なんだろう?普通くん+78
verdantvoxel
I’m pretty certain Will is over 300 years old and they keep resetting him if he fails to manifest the power or something. We’ve seen scenes with the witch queen holding what I assume to be a baby Will, and Finn said it took him 340 years to fulfill his promise.
ワイ的にはWillって300歳以上やろなって思うわ。もし力を発現できへんかったら、記憶リセットされて繰り返してるんちゃうか。魔女の女王が赤ん坊のWill抱いてるシーンあったし、Finnが約束果たすのに340年かかったって言うてたしな。2ちゃん+46
CursedEye03
I think that was Will's predecessor. I really don't believe that Will is that old.
それな。多分それはウィルの前任者の話だよね。ウィル本人がそんなに年寄りってのはさすがにないと思う。普通くん+84
Routine-Hovercraft94
Yeah, there is certainly more to Will and his past, but there is no reason to believe Will his centuries old. Nothing at all has hinted at that and too many people have been around him for too long for that to be plausible.
せやな、ウィルは確かに過去に何かありそうやけど、何百年も生きとるってのはないわ。そんな匂わせ一切ないし、周りに長くいる連中が多すぎるからありえへんやろ。2ちゃん+31
Makisisi
It would be horrible for the plot
確かに!それやばくない?主人公があの年齢だったら話ぶっ壊れるじゃん笑ギャル+24
Isoi
Hmmm some people speculate he's a descendant from the baby in the scene we saw but finn lost track of the bloodline lol.
確かに!でも赤ん坊の子孫説も面白いけどフィンが血統追跡諦めたの草。ウィルが300年以上ループしてるって考察エモすぎる…無理。感情くん+31
crocoturtles
Mf finn been doing the project for 500 years and he conveniently lost his latest prototype to the government lol
フィンが500年もプロジェクト続けてきたのに、最新のプロトタイプを都合よく政府に取られちゃったっての笑えるわ普通くん+26
Uanaka
But what about his "childhood" with Elfie? hmm
確かに…でもエルフィとの“子供時代”はどうなるんだ? んー…矛盾してない? 気になるわ。感情くん+14
OldInstruction5368
原文
That line mentioned Elfie may have altered memories as well.
Something like "I've finished editing his memories." from the Cauldron Witch, followed by Finn saying "In exchange, his beloved Sleeping Beauty remains rocking in a cradle of memories."
Elfie is frequently seen laying in bed or lounging around... and really, who else could Will's "Sleeping Beauty" be?
Either way, there is some *seriously* shady shit going down with Will's past, and it was likely no coincidence he grew up alongside Elfie, a future Magia Vander.
A powerful Wand for the Sword to grow up alongside, and in so doing, form a strong bond. One that will let them fuse their powers into Wand and Sword, completing the Mage Queen's legacy.
あのセリフ、エルフィも記憶改ざんされてる可能性を示唆してるよね。
「彼の記憶を編集してきたわ」っていう鍋魔女の発言と、「その代わり、彼の愛する眠り姫は記憶のゆりかごで揺れ続けてる」っていうフィンの言葉。
エルフィって頻繁にベッドで寝てたりだらけてるし…それに、ウィルの「眠り姫」って他に誰がいるんだ?
いずれにせよ、ウィルの過去には**かなり**怪しいことが絡んでて、彼が将来のマギア・ヴァンダーであるエルフィと一緒に育ったのは偶然じゃなさそう。
剣が育つための強力な杖。一緒に育って強い絆を築くことで、その力を杖と剣に融合させて、魔女女王の遺産を完成させるってわけだ。普通くん+8
crocoturtles
There's definitely connection between Mercedes and will, but that baby in the flashback is someone else. One of the many failed project during the 500 years timeline
メルセデスとウィルの繋がりは確かにあるやろな。でもフラッシュバックに出てきた赤ん坊は別人やろ。500年のタイムラインの中で失敗したプロジェクトの1つって感じやな。ワイもそう思うンゴwww2ちゃん+8
HolyDragSwd2500
Congratulations Will, You’re a Wizard/Mage
おめでとうウィル!お前はもうウィザード(魔法使い)だッ!!感情くん+73
Frontier246
You even get a cool witch hat! Now you get to join an atelier...I mean, the tower.
草ァ!魔法使いになったのかよウィル!
しかもクールな魔女帽子ゲットとかズルすぎやろwww
塔(アトリエ)入りおめでとうやで!2ちゃん+16
NationalStrategy
Julius is an arrogant asshole, but at the very least, he’s being real in calling out the other students for trying to praise Will after years of ridiculing him.
“Y’all were looking down on him and mocking him for years, don’t try to switch up now at the last minute.”
ジュリアスは傲慢なクソ野郎だけど、少なくとも他の生徒たちが何年もウィルを馬鹿にしてきた後に急に持ち上げようとするのをちゃんと指摘してるのは本物だな。
「お前ら何年も見下してバカにしてたくせに、今さら手のひら返すなよ」って感じ。普通くん+58
Frontier246
Julius: "I may be a dick to him, but at least I admit it."
ジュリアス「ワイはアイツにクソ野郎やけど、せめて認めてるンゴwww」
せやな、確かに他の連中みたいに偽善ぶってないのは評価できるわ。2ちゃん+46
TheBusStop12
Julius is a dickhead. But he's a consistent dickhead. You gotta respect him for that
確かに、ジュリアスは嫌なやつだけど、一貫してるからな。その点は認めざるを得ないね。普通くん+21
crocoturtles
Yeah basically these other random students are just joining the bandwagon just because will is HIM now and the elites students are respecting him. Nothing wrong with that, but Julius also have the right to called them out
同意。他の生徒たちはウィルが「最強」になったから便乗してるだけだよな。エリートたちが敬意を示し始めたのを見て、急に態度変えた感じ。別にそれ自体は悪くないけど、ユリウスがそれを指摘するのも正当な立場だと思う。1話で見せた彼の傲慢さと一貫してるし、むしろ今の彼の行動は「本物の実力者」としての矜持が感じられる。制作陣はこの辺りのキャラの一貫性を重視してるんだろうな。考察くん+8
Frontier246
I think it's more that they were appreciating him while still catching themselves and calling him by his derogatory nickname.
彼らは彼のことを認めつつも、つい昔の悪いあだ名で呼んじゃってるって感じだね。普通くん+11
NationalStrategy
That, and I don’t recall them actually apologizing to Will. Other than cheering him on during the fight, what have they done to make amends to him?
確かにそれな!まじで謝罪シーンなかったじゃん?応援してただけじゃ全然足りなくね?てかウィルに何か償いしたっけ?笑ギャル+11
NationalStrategy
原文
Of course they can turn around if they feel genuinely, but what are they doing other than praising Will and acting like they didn’t bully him for 6 years? I’m not saying that we should hold it against them forever, but we shouldn’t just immediately forgive them for it, that’s something that should be handled gradually overtime. And I think Julius was right to call them out and address the elephant in the room regarding their immediate switch up.
Look at Naruto, he didn’t just immediately forgive the villagers, he acknowledged their treatment towards him in the past and it took time for him to forgive them.
気持ちが変わったなら振り返るのは別にええけどさ、6年間もウィルをいじめてた連中が今さら「ウィルすげえ!」って持ち上げるだけってどうなん?ずっと根に持てってわけじゃないけど、すぐ許すのは違うやろ。徐々にやるべきやん。ユリウスが「お前ら急に手のひら返しすぎやろ」ってツッコんだのは正しかったと思うわ。
ナルト見てみ?あいつも村人をすぐ許したわけじゃなくて、過去の仕打ちを認識した上で時間かけて許したやん。2ちゃん+8
ObvsThrowaway5120
It’s nice to see Will advancing to the tower. Guess he was able to keep his promise with Elfaria after all.
I hope now people will put some damn respect on his name. Bro saved the city from death and destruction when all the mages and fancy spells barely made a dent on those things. That really ought to get them to stop calling him a laggard and all that nonsense at least.
ウィルが塔に進めてよかったな。エルファリアとの約束、ちゃんと守れたんだね。
これでやっと彼のことを認めてくれる人が増えるといいんだけど。あの魔法使い連中がろくに歯が立たなかった化け物から街を救ったんだし、もう「落ちこぼれ」とか言うのはやめてほしいわ。普通くん+48
CursedEye03
Everything you said is true, but unfortunately, this is the equivalent of "magical racism". Even if Will proves that he's capable, some jerks will still call him "worthless no-talent" and so on.
At least some people are acknowledging him, so that's a start.
確かに、ウィルの塔への到達は約束の成就として重要なポイントだ。ただ、これは「魔法による差別」という社会的構造の問題を浮き彫りにしている。ウィルが実力を証明しても、「才能なし」とレッテルを貼る連中は残るだろう。ただし、彼を認める者が現れ始めたのは、変化の兆しと言える。考察くん+23
IntroductionIcy7320
I wish he was confident enough to get sick of everyone's shit and just start replying with "cool bro, I totally suck, how many apocalypse events have you stopped?"
確かにそれな。ウィルにもっと自信があれば「はいはい、俺はクソだよ。お前は何回終末イベント止めたんだ?」って言い返してほしいわ。普通くん+6
Frontier246
>It’s nice to see Will advancing to the tower. Guess he was able to keep his promise with Elfaria after all.
Wanna bet they still put every impediment they can think of in front of him to prevent him from seeing her? It would track with how the plot has been so far.
同意。ウィルの塔への到達は確かにエルファリアとの約束を果たした証だが、ここからが本番だと思われる。これまでのプロットを踏まえると、制作陣は意図的に最大の障壁を用意してくるはず。彼女に会うための試練として、塔内での更なる妨害や、何らかのタイムリミットが課される可能性が高い。この展開は、ウィルの成長をより強調するための伏線とも取れる。考察くん+8
NationalStrategy
It was nice to see Rosty The Snowman one last time
ロスティ・ザ・スノーマンに最後に会えてよかったな普通くん+38
Frontier246
I love how since no one was around Rosty isn't even trying to fake a male voice lol.
わかるッ!周りに誰もいないからロスティが男の声を偽装しようともしないの最高すぎるww感情くん+25
International_Leg666
Iris is everywhere. I like Finn. He stands on business. One thing I like is the healthiness of their competitiveness. Edward means of showing concern is inverted. LoL. I find Eliza peculiarly interesting, is she a vampire?
アイリスがどこにでもいるな。フィンは好きだよ、自分の信念を貫いてるし。あの二人の健全な競争心がいいよね。エドワードは心配の表し方が逆方向すぎて笑う。エリザが妙に気になるんだが、彼女って吸血鬼なのか?普通くん+36
Frontier246
I think she's called a vampire because her magic requires blood.
せやな、アイリスはどこにでもおるわ。フィンはガチで仕事してて好感持てるンゴ。二人の競争心が健康的なとこがええわな。エド2ちゃん+31
Meander061
Which is odd, because her eyecatch card said that "blood" was one of her dislikes.
確かに!でもアイキャッチで「血」が苦手って書いてあったの、矛盾してない?そこおかしくないッ!?感情くん+14
ChapinThrowaway
Makes sense though. Most mages are just conjuring up elements and she has to use blood for hers. I'm sure there's a stigma attached to that.
Her sidecard also said something about Workner resolving a conflict for her. Wouldn't be shocked if it was related to her power.
確かに。ほとんどの魔術師が元素を呼び出す中、彼女は血を使わなければならないというのは、何か偏見がつきまとうのも納得だな。
あとサイドカードに「ワークナーが彼女の争いを解決した」って記載があったのも気になる。おそらくその力に関係しているという考察ができる。考察くん+6
International_Leg666
I see. Then she must really be selling it even with her mannerism and outfit.
あっ、なるほどね!じゃあマジで仕草とか服装も含めて吸血鬼っぽさ全開で売り出してるってことか〜!それやばくない!?笑ギャル+6
Wrath_FMA
In the card it said she has insomnia, and the dark makeup around her eyes is actually just bags. So probably just a clever insult
確かにそうだね。カードに不眠症って書いてあって、目の周りの黒いのは実はクマだったのか。つまり、うまいことディスってたってことか。普通くん+12
S627
They took WAY too long to reveal that Will still remembers most of what happened, I was livid the entire first half of the ep because it started with the Headmaster saying she was erasing his memories. So what DID she change?
The entire ep I was legit expecting Rosty to just show up like "Who died?" and just play it off like Will just imagined him dying.
このエピソード、ウィルが記憶をほとんど覚えていることを明かすまでが長すぎたよ。前半はずっとイライラしてた、だって学園長が記憶を消すって言い出したからさ。じゃあ結局何を変えたんだ?
エピソード中ずっと、ロスティが突然現れて「誰が死んだ?」って言い出して、ウィルが彼の死を想像しただけって流れになるんじゃないかと本気で心配してたんだ。考察くん+36
ChapinThrowaway
My guess is Finn's part in this. She seems to want to keep him away from Finn so erasing the fact that Finn helped unlock his powers makes sense. Will keep Will from asking too many questions about our mysterious little friend.
確かにそれっぽいな。フィンの関与を隠したいってことか。ウィルがフィンに助けられた事実を消せば、あの謎の友達について詮索されなくなるってわけか。普通くん+26
WalkingAbacus
Sion is definitely Will's biggest fanboy lol. He's the first one to clap for Will (even in the previous episode, he's the first one to cheer him on). Also, i love julius' face when he's clapping for Will.
Congrats to Will. He can finally ascend to the tower. All his hard work has paid off. Good for him.
シオン、完全にウィルの一番のファンやん草ww 前の話でも真っ先にウィル応援してたしな。ジュリアスが拍手してる時の顔も好きすぎるンゴww
ウィルおめでとう!やっと塔に登れるンゴなあ。今までの努力が報われたって感じでガチで良かったわ。2ちゃん+36
Frontier246
Sion isn't even trying to be a tsundere for Will anymore, that's Julius' job now.
Colette needs to step up, especially now she doesn't have to worry about Rosty anymore! Because "Rosty" can't conveniently come up with an explanation for how he "survived" lol.
確かに、シオンはもうツンデレする気ゼロだよね。その役割は完全にジュリアスに移った感じ。
コレットも頑張らないとね、特に「ロスティ」がどうやって生き残ったか説明する口実を作れなくなった今は!笑普通くん+11
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
Poor Sarissa, thrown to the wolves by Elfie's whims and melancholy. Surely this isn't just a one-off, but a frequent occurrence as well. Being an attendant of these ego-maniac vanders definitely ain't no walk in the park lol
Sion just won me over this episode fr, being the first one to acknowledge and give Will his well deserved flowers (through one simple gesture as clapping). Dude has gone a long way in making a complete 180 in my book, that's for sure. (Nobody likes bullies after all, and his redemption arc most definitely has been one of the highlights of the series thus far)
Btw, suck it Ed! I don't understand where this comparing himself to Will drama is coming from when he's totally capable of using magic, and has probably never dealt with the same amount of scrutiny as Will.
サリッサはかわいそうに、エルフィーの気ままで憂鬱な気分に振り回されてるな。これが一度きりじゃなく、日常的に起こってるんだろうな。自己中なヴァンダーたちに仕えるのは確かに楽じゃないよな(笑)
シオンは今回のエピソードで完全に株を上げたな。最初にウィルの功績を認めて拍手を送ったシーンは見事だった。俺の中でシオンの評価は180度変わったと言っても過言ではない。結局、いじめっ子は誰も好きじゃないし、彼の更生ストーリーは間違いなくシリーズのハイライトの一つだ。
それから、エドは黙ってろ!自分が魔法を使えるのに、なぜウィルと自分を比較するんだ?エドはウィルが受けてきたような厳しい視線を一度も経験したことがないはずだ。考察くん+29
rllrdr
I surmise that in the past, Ed was also an idealistic dreamer before being completely disillusioned by the tower. The tower may test things you can't solve just by hitting it hard with a sword. We as an audience knows Will is going to find a workaround since he's the protagonist and all, but it's not as easy to see in-universe.
確かにエドも昔は理想主義者だったんだろうな。塔に打ちのめされて夢を諦めた感じか。剣でゴリ押しじゃ解決できない試練を塔は仕掛けてくるんだろうね。俺ら視聴者はウィルが主人公だから何とかするって分かってるけど、作中キャラにはそう簡単に見えないよな。普通くん+22
crocoturtles
Finally someone with brain. We're this far into the season and people still misjudged Edward character. Like do you really need to be spoonfed with 3 episodes of backstory to understand him. Mf are so dumb is infuriating
せやな。やっとマトモな奴出てきたわ。
もうここまでシーズン進んでんのにエドワードのキャラクターマジで誤解しすぎやろ。
バックストーリー3話もぶっこまないと理解できんのかよ。
マジでアホすぎてイライラするンゴwww2ちゃん+9
Frontier246
原文
>Poor Sarissa, thrown to the wolves by Elfie's whims and melancholy. Surely this isn't just a one-off, but a frequent occurrence as well. Being an attendant of these ego-maniac vanders definitely ain't no walk in the park lol
I feel bad for Sarissa who seems like she's trying her best but has to put up with a mistress who only cares about Will and nothing else and also having to put up with the Magia Vanders' nonsense. I don't think Elfie really appreciates or cares about her that much from what we've seen.
確かに、サリッサは大変だよね。エルフィはウィルにしか興味なくて、マギア・ヴァンダーズの理不尽にも耐えなきゃいけないし。今のところエルフィがサリッサをちゃんと評価してるようには見えないな。普通くん+5
SEBASTlANVETTEL
okay I am shipping Workner and Eliza now
Julius truly the biggest tsundere.
We have all seen his smile when heard a new spell can make you advance to the tower, then the shy clapping for Will.
(Also Sion our goat, always there for Will.)
the white uniforms in next week's episode look so freaking good
- WorknerとElizaの組み合わせ、かなり考察しがいがあるな。互いの立場や性格を考えると、化学反応が面白い関係性になりそうだ。
- Juliusのツンデレ具合は確かに徹底してる。新呪文で塔に進めるって聞いて思わず笑みを浮かべ、Willへの拍手もどこか照れくさそうな感じ。あれは明らかに好意の裏返しだよな。
- そしてSionはやっぱり最高だ。常にWillの側にいる姿勢が、彼の忠誠心と友情の深さを物語ってる。
- 来週の白いユニフォーム、デザインの統一感とキャラクターごとの個性の両立がすごく良い。衣装にも制作陣のこだわりが感じられるな。考察くん+24
YonSaiSucks
>okay I am shipping Workner and Eliza now
An immortal and a vampire looking character with blood magic to boot
確かに、ウィルクナーとエリザの組み合わせは新鮮だよね。不老不死と吸血鬼っぽいキャラで血の魔法って、相性良さそうじゃん。普通くん+20
SEBASTlANVETTEL
basically freak4freak
それな!不滅×吸血魔術って freak4freak すぎるッ!最高の組み合わせだわ!感情くん+11
Maybe_this_time_fr
Ayyo hold on, Workner got the ladies fighting for him?
RIP Rosty.
ちょっと待って!ワークナーって女の子たちにモテまくってんの!?笑
ロスティ、安らかに眠ってくれ…ギャル+28
Frontier246
I need more of this romcom teacher dynamic!
確かに、ワグナー先生のラブコメ展開もっと見たいわ。ロスティは不憫だね。普通くん+15
Megakruemel
I for one also want more romcoms with characters in their mid-twenties instead of *another* highschool setting.
せやな!高校モノばっかじゃなくて、20代半ばのロマコメもっと増えてほしいンゴwww 教師カプの空気感ガチで草2ちゃん+8
GosuGian
Huge respect to Shion.
シオンには本当にリスペクトだわ。普通くん+23
Frontier246
He stepped up faster than Colette did! That made it even more meaningful.
それな!シオン、コレットより先に動いたのやばくね!?それがめっちゃ意味あって泣けるじゃん!ギャル+7
Sleepy10105s
Caldron was way more involved then we ever knew. Also, she’s basically a Pseudo-Magia Vander
カルドロン、ワイらが知らんかっただけでめっちゃ関わってたやん。つーかあいつ実質疑似マギア・ヴァンダーやんwww2ちゃん+18
ohoni
Maybe she's retired. I assume there is a point at which they are no longer able to do the job as well as the best of the newer kids.
確かに引退したのかもね。新人のトップ層にはもう敵わなくなったんだろうな。普通くん+7
MBFlash
I dont get it though. Why dont they simply name what he did magic and the spell wis or something. He might be using a sword instead of a wand but at the end of the day he is using some form of magic isnt he? Isnt it easier for people to accept that this is a different kind of magic than simply saying his magic is courage?
確かに疑問だな。彼の使う力を「魔法」と認め、その呪文を「Wis」と名付ければいいのでは?杖ではなく剣を使っているが、結局は何らかの魔法を使っていることに変わりない。単に「魔法は勇気だ」と言うより、異なる種類の魔法として受け入れた方が周囲も納得しやすいという考察ができる。考察くん+17
Meander061
>than simply saying his magic is courage?
I thought that the Headmistress called the spell that Will created "Courage", an entirely different kind of spell.
確かに、普通に魔法って呼べばいいのにね。でもウィルが作ったのは「勇気」っていう全く別の種類の呪文ってことみたいだよ。普通くん+12
MBFlash
It was obviously a play on the audience's sentiment on the headmistress' part. She didnt actually believe courage was the actual spell.Basically she was saying ''dont you think will deserves this with the courage he showed in the fight'' or something
院長の発言は明らかに観客の感情を利用した演出だと思われる。彼女は実際に「勇気」が呪文だとは信じていなかった。要するに「ウィルが戦いで見せた勇気に対して、これくらいの報酬があってもいいと思わないか?」というニュアンスだったのだろう。考察くん+7
MinimumMaus
One of my biggest beef with superheroes is how people claim that Batman doesn't have any powers, despite him being able to do things no human can do no matter how much training and technology they have. Will is like this too. There is no way he can fight like he does without some sort of magic behind it, even before the last few episodes.
せやな。ワイもずっと思ってたわ。バットマンが「能力なし」って言われるのマジで草。いくら鍛えても人間じゃ無理な動きしてるやん。ウィルも同じで、あの戦闘力は絶対なんか魔法かかってるわ。最初の方からもうガチで人間離れしとるンゴwww2ちゃん+7
MrConor212
Wistoria Sundays and Witch Hat Mondays is so fucking peak lol
ウィストリアの日曜ととんがり帽子の月曜、最高すぎるわ笑普通くん+16
Ocixo
原文
Sion being the first to acknowledge Will’s achievement(s), out of everyone, was a nice turn of events. He’s changed a lot since the start of S1.
Still, a bit too many people were hesitant about letting Will ascend the Tower. Saving the kingdom from impending doom wasn’t enough?
I do find it interesting that there’s already starting to form two rivalling factions who are fighting over Will: Lord Aaron and Finn vs. Headmistress Cauldron and Iris. Though, I do wonder what they exactly meant by “editing” Will’s memories. How so?
シオンが真っ先にウィルの功績を認めたのは、見事な展開だったな。シーズン1開始時から彼は大きく変わったと言える。
ただ、ウィルの塔登りを渋る連中が多すぎる気がする。王国を危機から救っただけじゃ不十分なのか?
興味深いのは、すでにウィルを巡る二つの派閥が形成され始めている点だ。アーロン卿&フィン陣営と、コールドロン院長&アイリス陣営。ただし、彼らが言う「ウィルの記憶の編集」が具体的に何を意味するのか、気になるところだ。どのような手法なのだろうか?考察くん+13
Frontier246
Colette lost to Sion in cheering for Will! She's got to work really hard in the tower as he gets closer to Elfie!
Seems like there are those who want Will more on the "mage" side versus those who want him to be more on the "sword" side.
確かに、コレットは応援でもシオンに負けちゃったね!ウィルがエルフィに近づくにつれて、塔でめっちゃ頑張らないと。
ウィルを「魔術師」寄りにしたい派と「剣士」寄りにしたい派で意見が分かれてるみたいだね。普通くん+7
NationalStrategy
Professor Ed: Why does he have to suffer the same fate I did?
He’s not you, Will is going on his own path. Your job as a teacher is to provide him your knowledge and wisdom from your experience, and guide him, not to stifle him from his dreams because of your own personal hang-ups.
エド教授「なんでワイと同じ目に遭わせなあかんねん」ってマジで草
お前と違うンゴ、ウィルは自分の道歩いてるやん
教師の仕事って経験から知識と知恵与えて導くことであって、自分のコンプレックスで夢潰すことちゃうやろwww2ちゃん+12
Routine-Hovercraft94
原文
It is easy to say for a viewer. We know Will is the protagonist of this story and thus will obviously advance the tower and in the end reunite with Elfie.
But try to see this from the perspective of someone inside of that world.
Also, it is also a teachers and adults job do keep your studends from harm if possible and not feed their delusions when they are older. From Eds perspective everyone is just feeding that delusion and logically speaking, he is absolutly right.
Again, we know that Will does overcome his obstacles, but he doesn't and that makes him actually one of the most genuine, caring and realistic acting people in the anime.
確かに視聴者だから簡単に言えるよね。ウィルが主人公で塔を登ってエルフィと再会するって分かってるし。
でもこの世界の中の人間の視点で考えてみてよ。教師や大人の役目って、生徒を危険から守って、年齢相応の非現実的な思い込みを助長しないことだろ。エドの立場からすれば、周りがみんなその思い込みを後押ししてるように見えて、論理的には彼の言い分が完全に正しいんだよ。
繰り返すけど、俺たちはウィルが困難を乗り越えるのを知ってる。でもエドはそれを知らない。そのせいで彼はアニメの中で一番誠実で思いやりがあって現実的なキャラの一人になってるんだ。普通くん+16
Fakvarl
They let students go into lethal dungeons for points on their own.
Whatever Ed did was way safer.
ワイ「学生にポイント稼ぎで殺人ダンジョンに単独突入させるってガチで狂ってるやろwww」
エドがやったことの方がよっぽど安全やん2ちゃん+8
SYZekrom
Sion staring out the window except actually he's clearly staring right at the non-glass frame in the center dude is just staring at a wall
God those garters...
Ahem, anyway, yes I totally remembered Rosty was supposedly a guy
シオン、窓の外を見てるフリして真ん中の枠(ガラスじゃない部分)見てるだけじゃん。壁見てるだけのやつだよな
あのガーターやばすぎ…
ゴホン、まあとにかく、ロスティって男だったっての完全に忘れてたわ普通くん+9
Shimmering-Sky
原文
- Wait, editing his memories…?
- Uh-oh.
- Oof, that’s a lot of people…
- Fair enough hah.
- Dang, Rosty.
- Normal length, too. Shame, you looked cool with the long hair.
- But there’s an extra hat there. Is Will actually going to get one?
- Oh yeah! Will *did* do that!
- Nice “sore demo” from the headmistress.
- Aww, Sion was the first person to start clapping.
- Hm…?
- Another “sore demo” from the headmistress!
・え、記憶改ざん…?
・やべえ
・うわ、めっちゃ人がいる…
・まあ確かに草
・ロスティやばくね
・髪長い方がかっこよかったのにな
・でも帽子余ってるやん。ウィルも被るんか?
・あ、そういやウィルそんなことしたな!
・学院長の「それでも」キター
・シオンが最初に拍手してるの尊い…
・ん…?
・学院長の「それでも」また来た!2ちゃん+11
Alpha_X_04
Your biggest rival is your biggest supporter as well.~ scion
最大のライバルこそが、最大のサポーターでもあるんだよね~スキオン。普通くん+10
Mediocre-Act483
Of course. After all, they don't wanna win on a technicality. They wanna win fair and square. If their rival doesn't make it, they won't accept an honor. Anyone else remember the MHA Sports Festival? Katchan hated being first there because he didn't get to fight his foe at full power.
確かに。彼らは「テクニカルな勝ち方」を望んでいないんだよな。完全な実力で正々堂々と勝ちたいからこそ、ライバルが本調子じゃないまま勝つのは受け入れられない。『僕のヒーローアカデミア』の体育祭を思い出す人もいるだろう。爆豪があの時1位を素直に喜べなかったのは、デクと全力で戦えなかったからだ。この構図はウィストリアでも同じで、互いの成長を認め合える関係性こそが、真のライバル関係の証明と言える。考察くん+5
Sleepy10105s
Excuse me? Are you telling me the first two seasons were just prologue ?!?!?
えっ待って!?最初の2シーズンってプロローグだったってマジ!?!?!?やばくない!?!?!?ギャル+11
Frontier246
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What are the chances that just as Elfaria had created rain and Will was at his most depressed, Rosty would conveniently show up with the worlds' first umbrella, as if he had time to prepare for rain existing? But he came when Will really needed someone...so losing him still hurts.
They're altering Will's memories? What are they sealing up? Though obviously he can't keep his power active 24/7.
Workner wakes up recovered and into some teacher romcom antics. Apparently Eliza is REALLY into him while Clairie is using the excuse of her "eternal friendship" with Worker and Edward to prevent Eliza from making a move. Dude is really popular! Just look at all those flowers!
Julius can't properly express his own concern for Will...so he'll try to do it the only way he knows how: by being a jerk! Classic Julius.
The Magia Vander know how to make an entrance even if they can't go a meeting without insulting or attacking each other...but I guess now we have an inkling as to the antagonists and how they involve horrors that were fought 10 years ago, with the elves taking great pains/losses to stop them.
Colette is a really good girl. She and Rosty were never really friends, but Rosty was there for Will when he really needed someone, so she'll mourn him nevertheless.
Why does Iris hate Finn so much? Is it because of Will's destiny? She has a sword necklace so is she affiliated with that? That person will make a move as the clock starts moving through Will's efforts?
It's graduation time and all the faculty are dressed up, albeit it's a solemn affair considering prior events. And yet, each student gets their diploma and those ascending to the tower get their white hats...INCLUDING WILL SERFORT. And Sion and Colette lead the cheering squad! Including Julius despite himself! WILL FINALLY DID IT!!!!
I love how Edward just HAD to make a stink on stage, because he's worried Will is going to suffer like he did in the Tower. But Will isn't Edward and this is what he genuinely wants/needs!
Was Caldron doing this to keep Will away from Finn, in part? But why though? Also, calling the graduating class the "Grim Generation" is kind of morbid even if she tries to spin it.
Oh look, Rosty alive and well! While Elfie is happy Will is finally heading towards her!
Next week: New outfits for the gang as they ascend the tower!
エルファリアが雨を降らせてウィルがどん底の時に、ロスティが世界初の傘を持ってタイミング良く現れるとか出来すぎやろ…でもウィルが誰かを必要としてた時に来てくれたから、失ったのは今でも胸が痛むンゴ
ウィルの記憶改ざんって何を封印してるんや?もちろん24時間能力使いっぱなしは無理やろうけど
ワークナー復活して教師ラブコメに突入かよ。どうやらエリザがガチで彼にハマってて、クレアリーはエドワードとの"永遠の友情"を盾に阻止してる模様。花の数見てもモテモテやん!
ユリウスはウィルを心配する表現がマジで下手くそ…だからツンデレでやるしかないってか。らしいわ
マギア・ヴァンダーは会合でも罵り合い攻撃合戦するくせに登場シーンは決めるよな。でも10年前の戦いの敵がチラ見えしたな。エルフが多大な犠牲払って止めたって話か
コレットいい子やん。ロスティとは別に仲良くなかったけど、ウィルの支えになったからちゃんと弔うってか
なんでアイリスはフィンをあそこまで嫌うん?ウィルの運命絡みか?剣のネックレス持ってるし何か関係あるんか。時計が動き出したら動くってことか
卒業式で教員たち正装か。でも前にあったこと考えたら厳粛な式やな。それでも各生徒に卒業証書、塔に上が2ちゃん+9
NanDemoKnaives
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Leave it to the biggest tsundere to be the one to initiate the applause for Will! Sion, I knew it'd be you! It was so heartwarming to see everyone applauding for Will. I like how Julius earlier said he wouldn't fall for peer pressure but definitely joined in the applause.
I do wonder what happened to Edward in the past, it's been hinted at many times that his malicious actions have been a form of "protection", but I think this is the first time he out rights says it's because of what he's been through.
I did find it amusing how Clairie and Eliza were fighting over Workner lol, they haven't outgrown their teenage dynamics.
It was sad to see Will enter his dorm room expecting Rosty but he's no longer there, all that is left is the last pair of goggles made by him. I just realized his full name sounds like Frosty Snowman which could be another hint to Elfaria.
最大のツンデレがウィルの拍手を最初に始めるなんてね!シオン、やっぱり君だったか!みんながウィルを拍手するのを見てすごく心温まったよ。ジュリアスが「同調圧力には負けない」って言ってたけど、結局拍手に参加してたのが面白かったな。
エドワードの過去が気になるな。これまで彼の悪意ある行動が「保護」の形だって何度も示唆されてたけど、はっきり「自分が経験したことのせい」って言ったのは初めてじゃない?
クレアとエリザがワークナーを巡って争ってたのは笑えた。まだ10代のノリから成長してないんだな。
ウィルが寮の部屋に入ってロスティを期待するけどもういなくて、残されたのは彼が作った最後のゴーグルだけってのが悲しかった。よく見たら彼のフルネームが「フロスティ・スノーマン」に聞こえるのも、エルファリアへのヒントかもね。普通くん+8
_-Smoke-_
Did we ever get anything deeper into what Ed's trying so poorly to keep Will from having to experience? I recall it being hinted at but don't remember it ever being explicitly covered.
え、エドがウィルに絶対経験させたくないって必死に隠してるやつって、結局深掘りされたっけ?確かにほのめかしはあった気がするけど、はっきり描かれた記憶ないんだけど!ギャル+7
YonSaiSucks
He keeps calling the tower the graveyard of wands. Ed was also called an ascendant and a failed magia vander candidate. The standards are most likely really high and he doesnt want Will, a non mage, to experience them. He has good intentions, just not good methods
エドが塔を「杖の墓場」って呼び続けてるんだよね。それにエドはアセンダントって呼ばれてて、マギア・ヴァンダーの候補にもなってたけど落ちたって言われてたし。基準がめちゃくちゃ高くて、魔法使いじゃないウィルにそれを経験させたくないんだろうな。意図は良いけど方法は良くないって感じだね。普通くん+38
FireRifle64
Dang, Workner getting two baddies fighting over him.
Man, this show really be hitting me. Loved to see that Sion became the one to recognize him after engaging with him the most. Very nice to see Will graduate and ascend.
So many plot points now. I am curious what memories were edited by the higherups. And this battle 10 years ago sounds very ominous.
うわ、ワークナーが二人の美女に取り合われる展開か…。
この作品、本当に考察が捗るな。特にシオンがウィルと最も関わったからこそ彼を認めた、という流れは、キャラクター間の関係性を深く掘り下げる伏線だと思われる。ウィルの卒業と昇格も、物語の構造上重要な節目だ。
今後の気になるポイント:
- 上層部によって改ざんされた記憶の内容
- 10年前の戦いの詳細(かなり不気味な伏線)
これらを踏まえると、今後の展開が非常に楽しみだ。考察くん+8
Meander061
>Dang, Workner getting two baddies fighting over him.
And they were drawn and animated to be extra tasty in that scene.
やばくね!?あのシーンの二人、めっちゃ美麗に描かれててやばかったじゃん!ギャル+7
No_Idea_9594
am I the only one confused by no one acknowledging Will blasted off multiple ice spells? how does this not count as magic? transforming himself that's also not magic?
確かに、ウィルが氷魔法を連発してるのに誰も気にしないの謎だよね。あれ魔法じゃないの? 自分を変身させるのも魔法扱いじゃないってどういうことだろ。普通くん+5
Master-Hair-7456
No problem with the casting but the requirement is to create a new spell.
Him transforming doesnt matter too cause he already name his spell courage whether it starts from the transformation or not
それな!魔法は使えてるんだけど、問題は新しく魔法を編み出せって条件なんだよね〜。変身もあれって既に「勇気」って名前付けてるし、変身から始まるかどうかはあんま関係ないんじゃね?笑ギャル+9
Falloutman399
The fact it was SION who started the clapping is damn disgraceful, everyone in the capital watched Will save their fucking lives! They would literally all be dead if it wasn’t for Will, they should be tripping over themselves to congratulate him the damn ingrates!
シオンが拍手を始めたってのがマジで許せないわ。首都のみんなはウィルに命を救われたんだぞ!ウィルがいなければ全員死んでたんだから、もっと我先に祝福しろよ、この恩知らずどもが!普通くん+8
Tsumaranai_Jinsei
In essence, Wistoria doesn't seem to be very revolutionary in terms of its plot, basically the underdog achieves his dreams but I don't know why it seems to affect me so much. Week-in and week-out this show is the only one which makes me move so much. I love Wistoria, can't wait for the next stage!
確かに『ウィストリア』のプロット自体は、いわゆる「下克上」や「夢を叶える少年」という王道展開で、革新的とは言い難い。しかし、毎週視聴するたびに心を揺さぶられるのは、演出やキャラクターの心情描写が緻密に計算されているからではないか。特に、主人公の努力と挫折の積み重ねが視聴者の共感を呼ぶ構成になっている。次の展開が待ち遠しい。考察くん+9
Truton1
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This might sound weird but I am sad that nobody actually died. Like it felt like crap hit the fan but like no characters actually died and there are no real repercussions to the crazy crap that happened just before this. But now with the crazy power level we saw and what felt like a city ending battle are we just going to go to a magic school anime again?
I understand this is based on the Manga, I am more talking about the story as a whole not just the anime. But kind of hard to have stakes if everyone survives and they have graduation like 2 days later.
なんか変かもしらんけど、誰も死ななかったのが悲しいンゴwww あれだけヤバいこと起きたのにキャラ誰も死なへんし、マジで後悔もないやん。しかもあのバケモンみたいな戦闘で街終わったかと思ったのに、次の話で魔法学園アニメに戻るんか?って感じやわ。
原作マンガベースなのは分かっとるけど、話全体として言うとるんや。全員生き残って2日後に卒業式とか、緊張感ゼロやろ。2ちゃん+6
Florac
> are we just going to go to a magic school anime again?
I mean...they did kinda graduate from magic school.
And if there was any doubt about this being more than a generic, although better written than average, power fantasy, the last episode put them to rest.
確かに…魔法学校はもう卒業したしね。
もしこれが平均よりはマシだけど普通のパワーファンタジーかどうか疑ってたなら、最終話で完全に決着ついた感じだな。普通くん+9
rednick953
What about the very real human boy rusty he died! He was definitely not some creation of a very powerful witch to look after her boyfriend and was a real boy!
確かに!でもラスティが死んだじゃん!あの超リアルな人間の少年が!絶対に強力な魔女が彼氏を見守るために作った存在とかじゃなくて、本物の少年だったんだぞ!泣いたわ…感情くん+6
sportsbuffp
didnt they say 3000 people died in the city not to mention the traumatic nature of the whole event? There is plenty to be sad about without having to kill anyone off yet.
街で3000人が死んだって言ってたけど、それだけでも十分悲しいよな。しかもあの事件のトラウマもあるし。まだ誰かを殺さなくても、悲しむ要素はたくさんあると思う。普通くん+6
AceSoldia
Sion is just the absolute best. My man clapped before literally anyone. The goat.
シオンまじで最強じゃん!誰よりも先に拍手してて草。この男こそレジェンドだわ。ギャル+5
tripleaamin
Sion being the first to clap for Will shows the actual respect he has for Will even if he is a big tsundere. Smh at Colette not being the first to clap.
Finn isn't the only one with plans for Will. As seen with Caludron and now the Magia Vander are aware of his presence now.
シオンが最初にウィルに拍手してたの、あいつがデカいツンデレでもちゃんとリスペクトしてる証拠だよね。コレットが一番に拍手しなかったのはちょっと残念。
フィンだけじゃなくて、みんなウィルのこと計画に入れてるんだな。カウルドロンの時もそうだったけど、今度はマギア・ヴァンダーも彼の存在に気づいたみたいだ。普通くん+6
HuluAndH4ng
Ironic that Sion displayed his own courage clapping first to acknowledge Wills magic
いや逆にシオンが自分から拍手してウィルの魔法認めてやったの、勇気あるじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル+5
Hovi_Bryant
Feels like I’m watching the magical take of Naruto at this point. Will is starting to have some respect put on his name.
確かに!まるで魔法版ナルトを見てるみたいだな。ウィルがようやく認められ始めてきて熱すぎるッ!感情くん+5
djthomp
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I feel like I got a couple more pieces of evidence for Clairie being a secret catgirl. First that scene right after the OP where Workner wakes up and we see some pronounced canines on her (though that might just have been the angle) and then the end of Eliza's eyecatch info card saying Clairie and her fight like cats and dogs.
Kind of amazing Ed was still planning on denying Will access to the tower even after saving the entire city, though it's obvious they're going to have him been doing all of it for Will's own good for whatever reason.
Interesting that the headmistress has apparently been having Will attend the school in secret from some selection of the Magia Vanders.
Frosti looking awfully alive for a boy who just died and shattered two episodes ago.
クレアリーが隠れ猫娘説、さらに確証が増えた気がする。まずOP明けのワークナーが起きるシーンで彼女の犬歯が目立ってたし(角度の問題かもだけど)、エリザのアイキャッチ情報カードの最後で「クレアリーと彼女は犬猿の仲」って書いてあったしな。
エドが街全体救ってもなおウィルを塔に入れさせないつもりだったのはすごいな。でも多分、全部ウィルのためを思ってやってるって展開になるんだろうけど。
学院長が明らかにマギア・ヴァンダースの一部から隠れてウィルを学校に通わせてるの、興味深いな。
2話前に死んで粉々になったはずのフロスティがめっちゃ生き生きしてるの笑う。普通くん+7
deynyel
Goddamn, Prof Workner's got game.
マジかよ、ワークナー教授ってばマジでイケメンすぎるッ!感情くん+5
Dace67
Headmistress used magic for putting the hat on the others with a kind nonchalant toss. She physically placed it securely on Will's head. Nice little touch with a bunch of meaning
校長が他のやつらには帽子を適当にポイッと投げて魔法で乗せてたくせに、ウィルには自分でしっかり頭に乗せてやったんやな。細かい演出やけどめっちゃ意味がありそうで草2ちゃん+6
Falloutman399
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I think it’s pretty obvious Rosty is an Elfie creation, I mean his name is (F)rosty (S)nowman. Whether he’s an ice clone she created to control or if he’s some kind of ice homunculus given life and will by Elfie and she just watches through him is all I’m not sure about. But I’d say there’s no doubt he’s created by her, so many times Will is thinking or talking about missing Elfie and then Rosty shows up right after to comfort him, it’s like they’re slapping it right into our faces.
ロスティがエルフィの創造物ってのはほぼ確実だと思う。名前が(F)rosty (S)nowmanだしね。エルフィが操る氷のクローンなのか、それとも意思を持った氷のホムンクルスでエルフィが彼を通して見てるのかはわかんないけど。でも彼女が作ったってのは間違いないと思う。ウィルがエルフィを恋しく思ってる時に決まってロスティが現れて慰めるんだもん。もうこれでもかってぐらいわかりやすくて笑っちゃうよ。普通くん+6