+1657
AriezKage
This is the second time the author did a "Our MC is apparently related to a super important figure in the world" and "Third party guy (Hermes/Finn) does a monologue about how everything til now is just a Prologue"....
And god danggit it gets me every time.
作者、またやったな「主人公が実は世界の超重要人物と関係あった」展開と「第三者(エルメス/フィン)が今までのはプロローグでした」モノローグ…。
しかも毎回ワイはこれに引っかかってしまうンゴwww
草不可避やろこれ。2ちゃん+526
Mana_Croissant
Will and Belle would get along great. They both started as underdogs too.
確かに、ウィルとベルは気が合いそうだね。どっちも最初は弱小キャラだったし。普通くん+178
AriezKage
I'm imagining Bell throwing an Argonaut buffed Firebolt at Will to absorb and use. Argo Wis?
想像しただけでヤバいッ!ベルがアルゴノート強化したファイアボルトをウィルに投げて、それを吸収して使うとか…アルゴ・ウィズ? エモすぎるし無理ッ!めっちゃ見たい!感情くん+101
Any-Photo9699
Whole ass nuke
【返信】
さすれば、ベル殿がアルゴノートを乗せた火炎弾を放ち、ウィル殿が吸収して放つ……まさに全体核爆弾よのう。某もその光景を想像して武者震いが止まらぬでござる。武士+69
Frontier246
And both will do anything for their friends and to stand next to the one they love more than anything.
確かに!二人とも友達のためなら何だってするし、愛する人の隣に立つためなら全力すぎるッ!エモすぎて泣いた感情くん+31
Frontier246
>This is the second time the author did a "Our MC is apparently related to a super important figure in the world" and "Third party guy (Hermes/Finn) does a monologue about how everything til now is just a Prologue"....
Will's mom was a baddie.
確かに。ウィルの母ちゃん魅力的すぎたしな。作者お得意の「実は重要人物の身内」と「ここまではプロローグでした」展開、毎回ちょっとベタだけど嫌いじゃないわ。普通くん+87
AriezKage
More like Will's Great Great Great Great Grandma, if current theories are right.
せやな、現状の説が正しければウィルの何代か前のばーちゃんだな。草2ちゃん+80
Zero5-4i
May I ask about the theories? I don't remember reading anything in the anime discussions. Provided they don't spoil the novel cause right now I am planning to read it after the season ends (perhaps unless s3 is announced immediately).
確かに、その理論について教えてほしいな。アニメの考察スレでは見かけなかった気がする。ただ、小説のネタバレはなしで頼むよ。今はシーズン終わったら読もうと思ってるから(シーズン3がすぐ発表されない限りだけど)。普通くん+13
Routine-Hovercraft94
Mercedes is not his mother tho. The flashbacks we see are 500 years ago and from the way Finn is talking, it took many tries (so most likely many ancestors of Will) to get the desired result of one using Wis.
せやな、メルセデスは母親ちゃうやん。フラッシュバックは500年前やし、フィンの言い方からすると何度も試行錯誤(おそらくウィルの祖先たち)を繰り返して、ようやくウィスを使えるやつが生まれたって感じやな。2ちゃん+39
bbhldelight
hermes is crazy 😭 i forgot the author made that too
確かに作者、主人公が世界の重要人物と関係あるってパターンもう二度目なんだよな。ヘルメスはやばすぎるわ😭 その設定作者が作ったの忘れてた。普通くん+27
pixeldots
wait I'm rusty on my Danmachi, probably watched up to S3. When was Belle shown to be part of world lore?
待って、ダンマチはS3までしか見てなくて記憶曖昧なんだけど、ベルが世界の重要人物と関係あるって描写ってどの辺なんだ?感情くん+10
AriezKage
[Danmachi spoilers] >!I mainly meant Herme's speech that revealed that Bell's grandfather was Zeus, which happened at the end of season 1. There's technically more to it but iirc it wasn't revealed in the anime so far.!<
確かに、ダンまちの知識がちょっと曖昧なのは分かる。俺が言いたかったのは主に、ヘルメスのスピーチでベルじいちゃんがゼウスって明かされたとこだよ。あれはシーズン1の終盤だったはず。もっと深い話もあるけど、確かアニメではまだ明かされてないと思う。普通くん+39
Ill_Act_1855
原文
Bell himself isn't really special prior to getting Liaris Freese. He has some connections to people who were important, but he's still kind of just some guy at the start. Like even Zeus being his adopted grandpa (Gods in Danmachi can't have kids, so it's not a demigod type thing) isn't actually about a prophecy or anything and his parents weren't particularly special either. Hermes wants to groom him to be the Hero who beats the black dragon, but that's mostly Hermes own personal agenda and he's not even the only adventurer Hermes has taken a similar interest in with regards to "making a hero" even if he's the current favorite for Hermes since some stuff has shown him do similar things with Ais in the past
確かに、ベルの出自そのものはリリス・フリーズを得るまでは特別じゃないんだよね。重要な人物との繋がりはあるけど、初期はあくまで「普通の少年」として描かれてる。ゼウスが育ての親って設定も、神様は子供を作れないから半神とかじゃないし、予言的な要素もない。彼の両親も特に際立った存在じゃない。ヘルメスが黒龍を倒す英雄に仕立てようとしてるのは確かだけど、それはあくまで彼個人の思惑で、過去にアイズに対しても似たような「英雄育成」をしてた描写があるから、現時点でのお気に入りって感じだな。考察くん+7
AriezKage
Danmachi -Is It Wrong to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?
Don't worry, we know the title is a bit sus. But the story is honestly pretty good.
ダンメモかw タイトルちょっとアレだけどな、話は普通に面白いんだよな笑wwwおじ+29
WhoiusBarrel
Elfie ~~lending a hand~~ dropping a sword to Will in the coolest fashion and Will showing out with that ice palace summon was so fucking hype.
He better get a pass after all he did to save the city.
エルフィが剣を手渡す…じゃなくてドロップしてウィルに渡すのがカッコよすぎるッ!しかもウィルが氷の宮殿召喚して見せるとか、マジで優勝すぎて興奮したわ。
街を救ったんだから、もうウィルに文句言うなよな!感情くん+523
actionfirst1
Give my boy some extra credit at least, bro should've passed that class
我が盟友に、せめて一点の加護を授けたまえ。彼は既に、氷の神殿を召喚するほどの力を示したというのに、あの試験など通過点に過ぎぬだろう。中二病+231
tazray80
He would have passed if that teacher wasn't hated on him. Trying his best to fail him.
せやな、あの教師がワイに恨み持ってなかったら単位取れてたンゴwww 落とそうとして必死すぎやろ2ちゃん+127
slowmovinglettuce
Teacher was a dick, but he was just trying to protect the guy in his own way. Basically a temu Snape.
確かに先生はクソだったけど、アイツなりのやり方で守ろうとしてたんだよな。要するにテムのスネイプって感じ。感情くん+168
mucklaenthusiast
I mean, he should be able to answer the question now!
He can use magic after all
ふむ、確かに今なら答えられるであろうな。何せ魔法が使えるようになったのだ。某もそう思うでござる。武士+16
avboden
Incoming Dumbledore to give him 150 extra points to Gryffindor to turn the house cup winner at the last second.
それな、まさにダンブルドアが駆けつけてグリフィンドールに150点追加して逆転優勝みたいな展開だね。普通くん+11
AriezKage
Will did say last season that he knows pretty much all the ins and outs of Elfie's spells, this goes to show he just never had the aptitude to cast them.
Elfieが我が手を貸すのではなく、剣を投げ渡すその姿、まさに神々しいまでの一瞬…。Willは前の季節に、奴の魔法の全ての裏表を知っていると語ったが、これはつまり奴にはそれを操る才能が欠けていたという証左なのだ。中二病+166
Frontier246
Elfie also seemed to be reacting to him using her magic like he was feeling up the ins and outs of her body lol.
エルフィも自分の魔法をあれだけ熟知されて、まるで身体中をまさぐられてるみたいに反応してたわwwwwおじ+127
teokun123
fucking lewd
確かにそれエルフィも反応してたし、なんか身体の隅々まで触られてるみたいで草普通くん+64
Any-Photo9699
Bro I thought they were childhood friends, now I don't know what they are. They high key acting like they are two bodies sharing one soul 😭
それな!幼なじみだと思ってたけど、もう何なんだよこの2人…二体で一つの魂って感じの行動しすぎじゃね?😭感情くん+24
Vindex101
> Elfie ~~lending a hand~~ dropping a sword
Her hand just slipped. Oopsies
エルフィが手を滑らせただけだよ。やっちゃったね〜普通くん+132
Frontier246
Rosty was just foreshadowing her real playful troll personality.
草、エルフィの性格完全に出てたやんwww
ロスティが伏線回収してくれたわ2ちゃん+61
mighty_sun_fighter
Once rosty said they took bath at a time what did you think on that line
確かに、ロスティがあの「一緒に風呂入った」発言をした時点で、もう本性が出てたってことか。普通くん+38
Mediocre-Act483
Personally, like Dabi in My Hero Academia, the only way they could've surprised me was if Rosty was NOT Elfie's body double.
それな!RostyがElfieの影武者じゃなかったら逆に驚きすぎるッ!Dabi級の伏線回収エモすぎるわ感情くん+6
shad79
It was great to finally see Will and Elfaria doing something together in this episode!
For too long, Elfaria just watched him from the tower and did practically nothing (at least officially, because I believe in the Rosti = Elfaria theory), so for her to finally do something, and in such a hype episode, was awesome.
ついにエルファリアが動いたのガチで草
今までは塔から見てるだけだったしな(ワイはロスティ=エルファリア説信じてるけど)
こんなアツい回で共闘してくれてマジで良かったわ2ちゃん+83
Original-Body-5794
Rosty being Elfaria is basically confirmed at this point considering she shattered like ice when she died instead of just becoming a corpse.
確かに、エルファリアがロスティって説、今回の氷みたいに砕ける死に方でほぼ確定っぽいよね。普通くん+73
Super_Fightin_Robit
If she comes back like "Didn't you die?" "Well, I got better" I think that theory is basically confirmed.
まあ「死んだんじゃなかったのか?」「いや治ったんだ」みたいな展開になれば、その説はほぼ確定だろうな。ドライおじ+29
Frontier246
We really got to see the "real" Elfie in this episode in all her playful and devoted love for Will.
やばくね!?今回のエピソードでまじで“ほんとの”エルフィが見れたじゃん!ウィルへのあの甘々で一途な愛情、やばいって!笑ギャル+35
CursedEye03
Everything you said is right, but I'm sure some jerks in the school will say: "That worthless no-talent? Oh, please, he's a failure. I'm sure Elfie did all the work."
This includes ~~Snape~~ Edward.
まあその通りだな。でも学校の連中の中には「あの無能が?は、落ちこぼれだろ。エルフィが全部やったに決まってる」って言う奴がいるだろうな。エドワードも含めてな。ドライおじ+47
Frontier246
Edward: "He doesn't have real magic he can channel on command! He needed someone else' magic to win! He can't make it in the tower!"
Clairie: "Just give him the white hat, Ed."
エドワード:「彼には自在に操れる本物の魔法がない!他人の魔法を借りて勝っただけだ!塔では通用しない!」
クレア:「白い帽子を渡してやりなよ、エド」
確かに学校の連中はそんなこと言いそうだよね。普通くん+25
Lulukassu
Head Mistress: One bonus credit to everyone who participated in the defense!
Edouche: HEAD MISTRESS!?!?
Head Mistress: No Exceptions
【返信先: Edward「コイツは自在に扱える真の魔法を持ってない!他人の魔法に頼って勝っただけだ!このままじゃ…」】
学園長: 防衛に参加した者全員にボーナス加点!
エドゥッシュ: が、学園長!?!?
学園長: 例外は認めん2ちゃん+12
justsyr
I hope if he says that someone asks him "Could you have done it?" Almost got wacked but still can't accept Will.
But when hating someone I'm sure will find some other tangent to keep moving goal post.
確かに。もしあいつがそう言ったら誰かが「お前にできたのか?」って聞いてほしいな。危うくやられそうになったのに、それでもウィルを受け入れられないってか。
でも誰かを嫌ってるときって、また別の理由を見つけてゴールポストを動かし続けるんだろうな。普通くん+13
SSGShallot
Jjk ruined me cause all my brain was thinking at that scene was "OMG a domain expantion 😲"
それなwwワイも「これドメイン展開やん!」って思ってもうたわ
JJKのせいで脳がバグってるわwww2ちゃん+38
Andreiyutzzzz
I'm still fine, I instantly went "BANKAI!"
確かに分かるわ。俺はすぐに「卍解!」って思っちゃったよ。普通くん+42
Kaleidoscope-Open
Was totally a bankai 😂😂 use sword for big awesome move? New gen bankai
それな!!完全に卍解だったわww 剣使って超絶カッコいい技出すとか、新世代の卍解すぎるッ!😂感情くん+27
SendBobsAndVagenePls
Ultimate ice
それな!私もそのシーンで「氷結領域展開きたー!」って思っちゃったじゃん笑 完全に呪術脳になってるわマジでギャル+12
cheapdrinks
Will about to walk back into class like this
ワイ「なんか用か?」って言いながら教室戻るんやろなwww 草2ちゃん+23
WalkingAbacus
I mean, that surely counts as magic, no?
それな!あれって立派な魔法じゃね?笑 エルフィの剣投げもかっこよすぎだし、ウィルの氷の宮殿召喚もやばくね!?ギャル+19
Farmaceut7
Bro really made his own Domain Expansion: Ice Castle!
確かに、自分で氷の城の領域展開しちゃった感じだね!普通くん+14
tazray80
That was really cool.
それな、ガチでかっこよすぎやろwww エルフィの剣投げもウィルの氷の城召喚も草生えるわ2ちゃん+8
HambulanceNZ
They would probably cut credits for property damage or some shit lol
それなwwwエルフィが剣落とすシーン優勝すぎるッ!氷の宮殿召喚もやばい。でも多分あとで賠償金の請求来るよね、絶対笑った感情くん+8
thrown_away_apple
man that was a great season. can't wait for season 3. what do you mean that was episode 4?
あのシーズンめっちゃ良かったな。シーズン3が待ちきれないよ。って、あれエピソード4だったの?普通くん+455
Ocixo
They’d be trolling us really good if there isn’t a new episode next week because of a deliberate pause in the release schedule.
やばくない!?来週新エピソードなかったら完全に釣りじゃん!まじでやめてほしいんだけど笑ギャル+160
Frontier246
Though now if you do a Wistoria watch order you can do it properly:
Season 1 -> Season 2 episode 4
Break
Season 2 Episodes 5-12
確かに、今なら正しい視聴順で見直せるね。
シーズン1 → シーズン2の4話まで → 休憩 → シーズン2の5~12話、って感じで。普通くん+83
AceSoldia
It only cost us Rosty 😭
ロスティを犠牲にしただけか…😭 泣けるわマジで。感情くん+65
HarryBarry012
I unironically just watched it for the first time today, and watched all 16 episodes, I think I picked a great time for this LOL
確かに今見始めるなら完璧なタイミングだね。俺も今日初めて全16話一気見したけど、まさにこのタイミングで正解だったわw普通くん+6
cheapdrinks
Yeah those last 3 episodes really did feel like a season finale. No idea how they're just going to go back to classroom episodes and school exams after that lol.
確かに!最後の3話、完全にシーズン最終回って感じだったよね。あれの後に教室回とか試験回に戻るの無理すぎるでしょw感情くん+72
nhzz
exams were done before the assault, everyone but will passed the uni entrance exams, thats why he was super depresso when the attack happened.
確かに、試験は襲撃前に終わってたし、ウィル以外みんな大学合格してたから、あの攻撃のとき彼がめっちゃ落ち込んでたのも納得だね。普通くん+8
slicer4ever
Man, what good guys the villians are to show up right after he fails to show why he should be in the tower, lol.
せやな、落ちた直後にヴィランが現れて「お前が塔にいるべき理由」を証明してくれるとか、敵サイドいい奴すぎて草www2ちゃん+8
Lulukassu
Fr, I can't help but feel like it would have been better to make this arc a movie to drop in-between seasons.
確かに、この弧は映画にしてシーズン間に挟んだ方が良かった気がするな。普通くん+6
Primary-Paint-1716
This episode just shown everyone that Collette has no chance in the Will bowl.
確かに……この回見て完全に理解したわ。コレット、ウィル争奪戦ではノーチャンスすぎるッ!感情くん+443
Ocixo
And in spite of that, I still cannot help but root for a losing heroine such as Colette. Just look how cute she and Kiki were towards the end!
確かに。それでもコレットみたいな負けヒロインを応援したくなっちゃうんだよな。最後のキキとのやりとり、めっちゃ可愛かったじゃん!普通くん+194
AeonLonginus
Understandable she is a good character that should stand a chance however Omori is the author and he seems to like the immediate designated winner but he also wants designated losers for the harem.
わかるッ!確かにコレットは負けヒロイン枠なのに応援したくなるキャラすぎる。でも大森先生は最初から勝ち確定のヒロインを決めてそうだし、ハーレム内で負け組も用意してる感じがする…。それがまたエモいんだけどね!感情くん+98
Frontier246
And also will go well out of his way to keep the protagonist and the "Main Heroine" away from each other as long as possible.
確かに。作者の大森さんは主人公と「メインヒロイン」をできるだけ離しておくスタイルっぽいしね。普通くん+56
Mana_Croissant
With all due respect i still think Aiz has way less chemistry with Belle in Danmachi compared to Hestia and especially Ryu. At least Elfie is sweet, though i feel for Colette
確かにわかるけど、アイズってベルとのケミストリー的にヘスティアやリューより薄いと思うんだよね笑
エルフィーは可愛いけど、コレットも不憫すぎるし…まじ複雑じゃん!ギャル+36
Original-Body-5794
Hey, at least this time the childhood friend wins
せやな 今回は幼なじみが勝つんやな コレット可愛すぎやろ キキと一緒に応援したくなるわwww2ちゃん+21
Xatu44
With blue hair, even!
青髪で!それな、今回は幼なじみが勝つんだね。普通くん+7
Frontier246
Honestly I want to see Will channel Collette's magic at least once even if she has no chance of winning his heart.
Especially Elfie seemed to be treating Will doing it here like they were having sex.
確かにコレットは恋愛面では無理そうだけど、それでもウィルに彼女の魔法を使う姿を一度は見たいんだよなッ!特にエルフィがウィルのそれ見てセックスしてるみたいに反応してたのエモすぎる。感情くん+70
AceSoldia
Lmao yeah what's was up with that I don't think Sion reacted that way when Will channeled his magic 🤣
確かにね。シオンがウィルの魔法をチャンネルした時はあんな反応じゃなかったのに🤣普通くん+49
pixeldots
wait wasn't Will's first Wis with Colette? Back when they were in the dungeon. Earth Blade I thought came before Sion's Fire Blade
草、そうやったんかワイも忘れてたわ
確かにウィルの初Wisはコレットやったな
ダンジョンでのアレやろ
Earth BladeがSionのFire Bladeより先やったって認識で合ってるンゴwww2ちゃん+10
TBTapion
That was just Colette creating a rock sword. Like she created the rock gauntlets for him so he could hit the things with "magic" to not break the rules. It wasn't Wis
あれはコレットが作った岩の剣だよ。彼女が岩のガントレットを作って、ルールを破らずに「魔法」で攻撃できるようにしたのと同じで、Wisじゃなかったんだ。普通くん+47
basroil
I’m 100% team Colette but it’s a losing battle. She’s like Germany invading Russia in winter. Only hopes for her to be happy is Sion who’s become more of a tsundere.
せやな…ワイもColette派やけど完全に負け戦やわ。冬のロシアに攻め込むドイツみたいなもんやろ。彼女の幸せを願うなら、ツンデレ化したSionしか道ないンゴwww2ちゃん+25
AceSoldia
Unfortunate but I know i stiill currently love Collette more than Elfie
確かに不憫だけど、それでも俺は今のところエルフィよりコレットの方が好きだな。普通くん+11
Alpha_X_04
Collette is the ride or die friend from day 1. I genuinely like her character more but still elfaria and will pairing is almost certainly end game and honestly its better that way.
それな!コレットはマジで最初からずっとウィルの味方じゃん!キャラ的にはコレットの方が好きなんだけど笑、でもエルフェリアとウィルの組み合わせはほぼ確定でしょ。てか正直その方がいいと思うんだよね〜ギャル+12
DragonPup
Not a chance in hell. Hope she realizes Rose is right there.
確かに。コレットに勝ち目はないな。ローズがいるって気づいてほしい。普通くん+8
Mizukin
I've never seen a ending 4 minutes long.
草 4分のEDとか初めて見たわwww2ちゃん+437
ragebaitconnoisseur
Episode so good I sat through the whole end credit
エンディング4分は長いな。でもそれだけ話が良かったんだろうね。普通くん+148
fork_yuu
I sat through the whole thing thinking there was some after credit scene lmao
それな!俺もエンドロール全部見ちゃったわ。まさか後日談シーンあると思ってさwww感情くん+48
Little_Explorer5660
wasn't in the budget,they only had 15min of high quality animation to spend.
草、予算尽きたんやろなwww
高品質アニメは15分しか使えなかったンゴ2ちゃん+5
Enrich_Doomsayer
This was my only complaint about this episode. SO much wasted time at the end that they could have done something with. I get this was the end of the arc and the episode needed to finish, but still.
確かに!エンディング4分は長すぎだろッ!もっと有効活用できたはずなのに、無駄すぎてしんどい。アークの終わりだからってのは分かるけど、それでも納得いかねぇ〜!感情くん+130
Rdddss
lol with the intro and the recap it really didn't even start until 7 min in to
せやな、OPと前回の振り返りで実質7分からやん。無駄が多すぎて草生えるわ。2ちゃん+43
oops_i_made_a_typi
reminds me of Shangri-La Frontier and how much of the episode would get allocated to the repeated intro, some recap, and mini shorts at the end.
except the animation in these eps has been a bit lacking. like, not terrible, but its so night and day compared to WHA, Re:Zero, or all of last season's big hitters. Which feels bad as this is supposed to be the hype climax
確かに。オープニングと前回のあらすじで実質7分から本編ってのはシャンフロ思い出すな。
でも今期の作画がちょっと物足りないんだよね。酷くはないけど、WHAやリゼロ、前シーズンの大物たちと比べると差が歴然。これが盛り上がるクライマックスって言うなら悲しいな。普通くん+5
Jaystime101
lol yea, it’s pretty clear they needed to drag it for that exact ending. Honestly I can’t even be mad though, that episode was 🔥, and we still got a decent amount of plot development on top of just straight up dopamine levels of vindication.
せやな、あの終わり方のために引き伸ばしたのは明らかやろwww
でもワイは怒れへんわ、あの回ガチで🔥やったし、プロットの進展もそれなりにあったしな。何より溜飲下がる展開がドーパミン出まくりやったンゴwww2ちゃん+12
ItsMeJahead
Plus the ep started with the last like 2m of the previous episode. But still a banger
確かに、OPも前回ラスト2分くらいから始まったしね。でもそれでも神回だったわ。普通くん+92
Zolo49
I guess this was the "true" ending of Season 1. Still, I don't think it earned a 4-minute ED.
確かに!4分のEDは長すぎるッ!でもこれがSeason1の本当のエンディングって考えるとエモすぎて泣ける…感情くん+47
kingfirejet
Honestly felt like if they dropped the first 4 episodes as a premiere special in theaters like what Jujutsu kinda did minus the recap.
確かに。最初の4話を映画で一気にやるみたいな形なら納得できたかもね。普通くん+5
RawrTheEnchanter
I was like what the hell, why is there an ending for the series on episode 4. They certainly could have planned that better.
確かにwww 4話で終わりの曲流すとか頭おかしいやろ
もっと上手くやれたやん、ガチで草2ちゃん+18
UMP45isnotflat
Yeah other anime skip the ED to give us more plot, this one doubles the ED to give us less..
確かに、他のアニメはED飛ばして本編増やすのに、これはED倍にして本編減らすってすごいな。普通くん+10
Primo29
That fight was so cool, but Elfie had no business looking that gorgeous this episode.
Sion is never beating the allegations of being Will’s biggest fanboy LOL.
あのバトルまじでやばかったんだけど!でもエルフィが今回めっちゃかわいすぎじゃない?笑
シオン、ウィルの一番のファン疑惑がまたもや確定したなwwギャル+327
DivinityPen
Elfie had some lovely moments in season 1, but season 2 is where she *really* gets to show why she's best girl.
同意。エルフィは1期でもいいシーンあったけど、2期で本気で最強ヒロインって証明してるよね。普通くん+123
CuriousBroccolli
I'm like fully sold on her. Elegant, beautiful but also strong, cheeky and unyielding.
せやな、ElfieはSeason1でも良かったけどSeason2でガチで化けたわ。優雅で綺麗なだけじゃなくて、強くて小生意気で頑固なとこも含めて完全にワイの中で確定やわ。草2ちゃん+85
Frontier246
You can definitely now see what parts of Rosty were definitely her personality (assuming he was truly her ice clone) though I think she has better thighs.
確かに、ロスティの性格のどの部分が彼女のものだったか(彼が本当に彼女の氷のクローンだったと仮定すると)はっきりわかるようになったね。でも、俺は彼女の方が太ももが良いと思うけどな。普通くん+60
AceSoldia
Lol oops my hand slipped. I may have to take back all my slander
あらら、うっかり手が滑っちゃったじゃん笑 さっきまでディスってたの全部撤回しないとやばいかも〜!ギャル+27
Frontier246
I feel like this episode was the first time we've really seen the "real" Elfie since that fight with Julius in season 1, and exactly why Will is so enamored with her.
If we could only get more of this consistently...
確かに。このエピソードは、シーズン1のジュリウスとの戦い以来、初めて本当の意味での“素のエルフィ”が見られた回だと思う。そして、なぜウィルが彼女にここまで惹かれているのか、その理由が明確に示されていた。
ああいう描写がもっと一貫して見られればな…。考察くん+44
AceSoldia
I wonder if her ice cold personality was just a result of Rosty having it all of that theory is true...now she's herself? I dunno
確かに、あの氷みたいな性格はロスティの影響だったのかもね…もしその説が正しいなら、今の彼女が本来の姿ってことになるのかな。よくわかんないけど。普通くん+20
Primo29
I'm fully committed in seeing her shine so cool in the following episodes.
返信先の言う通りやで。エルフィはSeason1でも可愛かったけど、Season2で本気出してきてるわ。
マジで今後のエピソードで彼女がカッコよく輝くのを楽しみにしてるンゴ。ワイも全力で応援するで。2ちゃん+14
actionfirst1
Elfie looks gorgeous every episode 😉
エルフィは毎話可愛いよね😉普通くん+98
Primo29
She was so extra this episode. Imagine her fighting.
マジで草。今週のエルフィはやりすぎやろwww戦闘シーン想像したらワロタw2ちゃん+56
Frontier246
Imagine her fighting all the close-ups of her thighs we'd probably get! Those are as lethal as her ice magic!
確かに!戦闘シーンになったら太ももアップ連発でしょ。あれも氷魔法と同じくらい lethal だよね!普通くん+16
shad79
>That fight was so cool, but Elfie had no business looking that gorgeous this episode.
Yeah, Elfaria was exceptionally beautiful in today's episode. That smile was so seductive!
>Sion is never beating the allegations of being Will’s biggest fanboy LOL.
Sion's last scene made me wonder if his tears were from happiness, jealousy, relief, rage, or maybe all of the above 😆
> あの戦闘シーンはめっちゃかっこよかったけど、エルフィは今週の話であんなに可愛くある必要ないだろ。
せやな、エルファリアは今週の回で異常に綺麗やったわ。あの笑顔がエロすぎるやろ!
> シオンはもうウィル最大のファン疑惑を否定できねえなw
シオンのラストシーン、あの涙が嬉しさなのか嫉妬なのか安心なのか怒りなのか、全部混ざってる気がするンゴwww2ちゃん+53
Frontier246
> That smile was so seductive!
She was practically treating Will using her magic as if they were having sex lol.
同意!あの笑顔エロすぎるッ!
エルファリアがウィルに魔法かけてるの、もう完全にそういうプレイだったよね笑感情くん+30
AeonLonginus
Sion views Will as some form of a rival that he wants to beat, so seeing Will pull this off must have crushed him though considering what happened after ep 1 in season 1 in terms of his magic this could result in Sion eventually dethroning the current fire Magia Vander.
せやな、エルファリアはマジで別格やったわ。シオンはウィルを倒すべきライバルやと思っとるから、今回のウィルの活躍見て心折れたやろな。でもS1 ep1後の魔法の件考えたら、シオンがいつか火のマギア・ヴァンダーを倒すフラグにもなるかもな。2ちゃん+13
Farmaceut7
Sion is just a tsundere crushing hard on Will.
確かに、シオンは完全にウィルにベタ惚れのツンデレだよね。普通くん+36
AceSoldia
Lol I dunno if he even counts as a tsundere anymore..he was there faster than lightning fast girl 🤣
草 もうツンデレとかいうレベルちゃうやろwww
雷より早く駆けつけててワロタ🤣
ガチでウィルにベタ惚れやんけ2ちゃん+28
Farmaceut7
He still talks like he doesnt like him, doesnt even call him by his name but is always 1st to support him. He just doesnt use the classic tsundere line of "b-b-baka" and instead uses ochikobore-failure/laggard.
確かに言われてみればそうかも。彼は相変わらず呼び方も「落ちこぼれ」だし、認めてるようには見せないけど、いつも一番に助けに行くんだよね。ただ、ツンデレの定番「ば、ばか」じゃなくて「落ちこぼれ」って言ってるだけって感じかな。普通くん+11
Frontier246
He's his biggest fanboy while Elfie (sorry Collette) is his biggest fangirl.
それな!シオンは完全にWillの一番のファンだし、エルフィ(コレットごめん)は最大のファンガールだよなッ!熱すぎるこの構図しんどい!感情くん+6
NanDemoKnaives
Sion was the first to cheer Will on, that says it all.
シオンが最初にウィルを応援したんやな、それだけで全てが分かるわ。2ちゃん+29
Frontier246
>That fight was so cool, but Elfie had no business looking that gorgeous this episode.
The way she strutted out of that tower...those thighs...that blush on her face at watching Will work...
>Sion is never beating the allegations of being Will’s biggest fanboy LOL.
Bruh was straight up crying at the end lol.
確かに。エルフィが塔から出てきた時のあの歩き方…あの太もも…ウィルの活躍見て顔赤らめてるのやばかったな。
シオンはマジでウィルの一番のファンって疑惑は永遠に消えないな。最後泣いてたの草。普通くん+23
AceSoldia
Lmao Sion gotta replace the Rosty in the friendship..only one who can
「それなッ!シオンはロスティの代わりを友達枠でやらなきゃ…唯一できるやつだからな笑」感情くん+9
Hot-Log6283
Fifth Element? Does that mean Will's real name is actually Bruce **Will**is?
第五元素?ってことはウィルの本名は実はブルース・ウィリスってこと?普通くん+327
Western-Internal-751
He needs a multipass to get to the top of the tower
確かに!笑 それな!塔の頂上までマルチパスが必要ってこと?wギャル+105
Super_Fightin_Robit
Every morning before class, will is like "Nobody likes you. Everybody hates you. You're gonna lose. Smile, you fuck."
それな。ウィルは毎朝「お前は嫌われてる、負けるぞ、笑えクソ野郎」って自分に言い聞かせてる感じだよね。普通くん+21
AceSoldia
Lmao
わろたwwwまじでそれな!ブルース・ウィリスとか言っちゃうの天才すぎるッ!感情くん+12
kazetoame
Actually, it would Leeloo.
草、それなww
でもワイ的にはLeelooの方がしっくりくるンゴwww2ちゃん+6
imaforgetthis
It pains me that no one seems to realize that *she* was the fifth element. Fake fans!
確かに、あの映画では彼女こそが第五元素だったよね。気づかないなんてもったいないな。普通くん+5
YonSaiSucks
原文
Idk if Mercedes is on mourning clothes or is just goth
Whatever that deal was, no one was getting out of it since they're binded by a geas
Elfie with a "teehee, i dropped something"
I was gonna say the animation still wasnt up to par to season 1 standards but i think the ice castle spell was enough. That was really cool
Why did that end like it was end of the whole series lol
Lmao. Someone is downvoting everyone
メルセデスの服装、喪服なのか単にゴスなのか気になるな。
いずれにせよ、彼らはギアスで縛られてる以上、あの契約から逃れられなかったって考察ができる。
エルフィの「てへっ、落としちゃった」って仕草、キャラ性がよく出てて良い。
作画はS1基準には及ばないと思ったけど、氷の城の魔法演出は十分だったな。あれは本当にカッコよかった。
最後の終わり方、まるでシリーズ完結みたいだったけど、制作陣の狙いが気になる。
笑える。誰かが全員にダウンボートしてるな。考察くん+227
Usual-Appointment739
Pretty sure that was how they wanted to end season 1, so the real Wistoria starts now!
確かにあれでSeason1を締めたかったんだろうね。本当のウィストリアはここからだよ!普通くん+143
Frontier246
They even did a special ED with all the moments from season 1 up to this point to make this really feel like a season finale (despite only being the 4th episode of season 2).
マジそれな!てか、シーズン1の総集編みたいな特別ED入れて、めっちゃシーズン最終回感出してたじゃん!しかもシーズン2の4話目なのに、やばくね!?笑ギャル+87
pixeldots
was ready to throw hands since no flashback had Rosty in it, up until the montage of the Magia Vander, just for him and Will to have the final part
確かに。Rostyがフラッシュバックに出てこなかったから、いざ決闘かと思ったよ。最後にWillと一緒に映ったMontage of the Magia Vanderのパートでやっと納得したわ。普通くん+27
Independent_Drive300
Okay, that makes so much more sense lmfao. After seeing the ending and the long ass credits, I panicked and even though I know it cant be true was like, 'it's over already? it just got hella good' .
せやな、それで納得やわww
エンディングと長いクレジット見てワイもパニクってもうたわ。「もう終わり?めっちゃ面白くなってきたとこやのに」ってガチで焦ったンゴwww2ちゃん+5
CursedEye03
The animation still looks pretty good. The anime has been consistently with good animation quality. But I agree that the ice palace spell was amazing.
確かにアニメの作画は一貫してクオリティ高いよね!でも氷の宮殿の魔法はマジでヤバかったッ!あのシーン優勝すぎるわ〜感情くん+49
Western-Internal-751
The animation is ok at best, I’d say. Most of the episode was a still image of people looking and screaming and it feels like half the animation budget went into Will running.
They are just really good at creating a hype moment with that limited animation.
確かに。アニメーションは普通かな。ほとんどの場面は人が見つめて叫んでる静止画で、予算の半分はウィルが走るところに使われてる気がする。でも限られた予算で盛り上げるのは本当に上手いよね。普通くん+72
MillyMan105
原文
You can defintely feel the lack of presecne from Tatsuya Yoshihara who wroked on Black Clover and Chainsaw man movie. He was not only the director of season 1 but was in charge of the composition, script and episode storyboard for ep 1 & 10. S1 had better direction so far and a few standout scenes like Will's fight against Julius.
I'm enjoying season 2 and I think the animation is qute good but you can tell where and when which scenes they're investing into more and which scenes they're taking shortcuts in animating. Still I will give props to that Ice palace spell, was dope as hell!
確かに、吉原達矢氏(『ブラッククローバー』『チェンソーマン』劇場版)の不在が如実に表れているな。彼はS1の監督だけでなく、1話と10話の構成・脚本・絵コンテも担当していたからな。S1はウィルvsユリウス戦のような突出したシーンがあり、演出面で優れていた。
S2は個人的には楽しめているし、作画も悪くないと思う。ただ、どのシーンに力を入れ、どこで手を抜いているかが明確に分かってしまうのが惜しい。とはいえ、あの氷の宮殿の魔法は本当にやばかった。あれは素直に称賛したい。考察くん+46
Frontier246
Yeah, if this was season 1 we would've gotten a lot more dynamic animation and choreography between Will and the Devander.
確かに、シーズン1だったらウィルとデバンダーの戦闘シーンもっと動きと見せ方にこだわってたと思う。今期はちょっと省エネ気味だよね。普通くん+17
slowmovinglettuce
I feel like they definitely were saving money during that fight by having it just be a bunch of kids screaming, and no actual fighting.
Them reusing the end of the last episode was a little annoying. I get *why* but like they had so much other filler that it just didn't sit well with me by the end of the ep.
確かにあの戦闘シーン、予算節約のために子供たちが叫んでるだけの静止画が多かったのは否めないな。前話の終盤をそのまま使い回したのも制作側の意図は理解できるけど、他にも尺を埋めるだけの余計なシーンがあったせいで、結果的に消化不良感が残った。考察くん+12
cheapdrinks
> half the animation budget went into Will running
Worth
同意。ウィルが走るシーンだけ明らかに力入ってたよね。普通くん+8
Independent_Drive300
I agree with you. They seem to do a decent job at filling in stuff but its crystal clear if you have seen season 1 and then compare it to the fight we just saw, jeez was it a letdown. Not saying it was bad, it had its cool moments, but definitely expected more. Allg lets progress the story
同意やで。確かに埋める作業はそこそこ頑張ってるけど、シーズン1見てから今の戦闘と比べたらガッカリ感ハンパないンゴwww 別にクソってわけちゃうしカッコいいとこもあったけど、もっと期待してたわ。まあええわ、ストーリー進めよ。2ちゃん+6
TOMA_TAN
The difference in animation between this fight and for example the will vs julius fight is pretty stark. They hit the emotional beats with this fight pretty well imo, but definitely did not shine in terms of the animation
確かに。ウィルvsユリウスの戦いと比べると作画の差がはっきりしてるね。感情的な見せ方は良かったけど、アニメーションの質では光ってなかったと思う。普通くん+10
shad79
>Elfie with a "teehee, i dropped something"
Elfaria really stole this episode (especially that smile), even though Will was amazing today too.
>Why did that end like it was end of the whole series lol
I was wondering if I had missed the news that this season would be shorter... Luckily, they showed a preview of the next episode 😆
> エルフィが「てへっ、落としちゃった」って感じで
エルファリア、今週もウィルが凄かったけど、完全に主役をかっさらってったな(特にあの笑顔)。
> なんで最終回みたいな終わり方するんだよw
今期が短いってニュース見逃したかと一瞬焦ったわ…。幸い次回予告はあったけどな😆
**考察**
あの終わり方、意図的に「一区切り」としての区切り方を演出してると思われる。特にエルファリアのあの笑顔は、今後の展開への布石というより、彼女の心情変化のピークを視覚的に強調したかったんだろう。制作陣が「ここで一旦区切る」と明確に意図したカット割りだな。考察くん+35
Frontier246
原文
>Idk if Mercedes is on mourning clothes or is just goth
It's probably just a style thing but I feel like she was sad that she had to basically give away her own child to save the world.
>Elfie with a "teehee, i dropped something"
Elfie is just a playful tease who loves Will more than anything. Rosty was probably just her getting to exhibit her real personality when she's not playing the stoic depressed Magia Vander.
>Why did that end like it was end of the whole series lol
Because the prologue has ended so now it actually IS season 2 lol.
メルセデスが喪服なのかゴスなのか…
おそらくファッション的なものだと思うけど、世界を救うために自分の子供を手放さなきゃいけなかった悲しみもあったんじゃないかな。
エルフィの「てへ、落としちゃった」ってシーンは、彼女がただの遊び好きでウィルを何より愛してるってことの表れだよね。ロスティの時は、ストイックで落ち込んだマギア・ヴァンダーじゃなくて、素の性格が出てたんだと思う。
なんでシリーズ最終回みたいに終わったのかって?
だってプロローグが終わったから、今度こそ本当にシーズン2が始まるんだよ(笑)普通くん+5
AceSoldia
I'm curious is Will that baby or have they just been trying for 500 years and he's just one attempt in a long line of babies to try to be the sword.
せやな、マーセデスはゴスってより喪服っぽく見えるンゴねぇ……ワイもなんか悲しそうに感じたわ
【返信】
気になるンゴ、ウィルってあの赤ん坊なんか?それとも500年ずっとチャレンジしとって、ウィルはただの剣になるための長い赤ん坊列の一人なんか?2ちゃん+6
Ocixo
原文
This episode would’ve frankly made for a perfect ending to the anime’s first season. I suppose that they simply didn’t have the resources and/or TV slots ready at the time to air the entire prologue in one go.
I first believed that Will is a son of the Mage Queen. But that cannot be true, right? This would imply that Will is *at least* 500 years old given Finn’s promise to Mercedes. Hence I’m inclined to think that he’s maybe a descendant of the baby handed over to Finn.
In this context, I do find it sort of funny that Colette toppled a grand statue of Mercedes last week.
今回のエピソード、正直シーズン1の完璧な終わり方になったと思う。当時は単に予算や放送枠の都合でプロローグ部分を一気に放送できなかったんだろうね。
最初はウィルが魔女女王の息子だと思ってたんだけど、それはありえないよね?フィンとメルセデスの約束からすると、ウィルは少なくとも500歳ってことになるし。だから多分、フィンに預けられた赤ん坊の子孫なんじゃないかな。
そう考えると、先週コレットがメルセデスの巨大像を倒したのがちょっと面白いんだよね。普通くん+216
the_48thRonin
Which might also imply that Finn has been watching over Will's entire bloodline for centuries waiting for the destined "lone sword"... but somehow lost track along the way.
それってつまり、フィンが何世紀もかけてウィルの血筋を見守り続けて、運命の「孤剣」を待ってたってことになる…でも途中で見失っちゃったってのはエモすぎるッ!感情くん+130
AeonLonginus
It could be that one of the descendants had multiple children however some of them showed zero potential so Finn neglected keeping tabs on them which let Will slip through the cracks however Caldron realized that Will was a Wis and proceeded to keep Will enrolled even though he had outlived his usefulness to the mages.
While also neglecting to tell Finn about this fact.
フィンの視点からすると、ウィルの血筋を何世紀も監視していたとしても、複数の子孫がいる場合、魔力のない者には関心を失うのは自然な流れだ。その過程でウィルが見逃された可能性が高い。しかし、カルドロンはウィルがウィスであることに気づき、魔術師にとって利用価値がなくなっても在籍させ続けた。そして、その事実をフィンに伝えなかったという考察ができる。制作陣の意図として、血筋の監視システムの穴と、カルドロンの隠蔽工作がウィルの成長の伏線になっていると思われる。考察くん+74
DiamonDawgs
have they said what a wis is?
それな!Wisって何なのか全然説明ないよね…気になりすぎるッ!感情くん+9
Super_Fightin_Robit
I mean, 500 years is 20 generations.
That's a *fuckload* of children.
500年って20世代分じゃん!やばくね!?子どもめっちゃ大量すぎでしょ笑ギャル+40
PeaceAlien
Excellent end to the prologue, but Will is going to be nerfed after this
確かに完璧なプロローグの締めだよな…でもウィルはこれから弱体化必至すぎるッ!しんどい感情くん+34
supakame
Badguys rage quitting over that OP stat-ignoring attack along with the one-shot AoE that took out all their adds.
それな。OPステ無視攻撃で敵がキレ散らかして草
ついでに範囲攻撃で雑魚まとめて消し飛ばしたしな
ワイも「さすがに強すぎやろ…」って思ったわ2ちゃん+23
Atharaphelun
Either that or some timey-wimey shenanigans are at work.
確かに、それか時間軸が絡んだややこしい仕掛けがあるのかもね。普通くん+20
kazuyaminegishi
> This episode would’ve frankly made for a perfect ending to the anime’s first season.
Genuinely my main complaint so far. This feels awkwardly placed for it to be the start of season 2, this episode as the season 1 finale would have been perfect.
> 今回の話、正直シーズン1の最終回にピッタリだったよな。
それな。ワイもそこが一番気になってたわ。シーズン2の頭に持ってくるのはなんか違和感あるンゴwww これがシーズン1のラス回なら完璧やったのに。2ちゃん+20
Ocixo
If they’d concluded the previous season like this, I genuinely couldn’t have wished for a better ending. Now, I’m mostly wondering where the anime will go from here. The actual season finale will probably have difficulty topping this episode.
確かにそれな。前シーズンがこの内容で終わってたら完璧だったのに。今はむしろここからどう展開するのか気になるわ。シーズン最終話がこの回超えるのは難しそうだね。普通くん+7
tripleaamin
>This episode would’ve frankly made for a perfect ending to the anime’s first season. I suppose that they simply didn’t have the resources and/or TV slots ready at the time to air the entire prologue in one go.
This definitely had the feeling of a season finale. I wish more anime would restrict themselves to the seasonal format. I guess it costs more to go for 16 episodes than 12.
せやな、確かに最終回っぽい空気だったわ。
12話より16話の方がコストかかるんやろな…
もっとアニメはシーズン制に絞ってほしいンゴwww2ちゃん+12
bbhldelight
that’s the deal Finn has to produce someone of wand and sword but for the past 500 years no one has lived up to that promise until the goat WILL
それな!フィンがずっと「杖と剣」の存在を待ってたって話、500年も誰も達成できなかったのに、ついにあのヤギがやったんだよな!エモすぎるッ!感情くん+7
Frontier246
My condolences' to Will's possible ancestor to have to be taken away from his mother for a divine purpose (of slaying the divine).
Also Collette can't win even with a statue of her crush' great 500x grandma lol.
同意。確かにこのエピソードはSeason1の締めとして完璧だったな。ただ、ウィルの遠い祖先が神の目的(神殺し)のために母親から引き離されたという点には深い考察ができる。神話的な犠牲の構造がここにある。
そしてコレット、彼女の想い人の500倍祖母の像があっても勝てないのかよ。その構図自体が伏線っぽい。考察くん+5
AlmoranasAngLubot69
I know it's cliche but it still gives me goosebumps when Will got a power up and his classmates are all cheering for him.
確かにベタだけど、ウィルがパワーアップしてクラスメイトたちがみんなで応援してるシーンは鳥肌立つよね。普通くん+189
PeaceAlien
And then he failed, and his sword broke. Only for Elfie to save the day.
Love > the power of friendship
確かに!でもまじでその後の展開やばかったじゃん!?
ウィルが失敗して剣折れちゃってさ…そこをエルフィが救う流れ、最高すぎん?笑
友情パワーより愛って感じでしょ〜!ギャル+107
BosuW
That shit made me mad but for the wrong reasons lol
Wdym the sword broke? It was only the tip! You still got 80% of a blade, keep hacking and slashing!
確かに笑 剣が折れたって言っても先っぽだけじゃん!まだ80%は残ってるんだから、そのまま斬りまくれよって思ったわw普通くん+10
NanDemoKnaives
When cliche is done right.
それな!王道展開だけど、ウィルのパワーアップにクラスメートがみんな応援してるシーン、まじで鳥肌立つじゃん!笑ギャル+43
Frontier246
Even the side-characters! Even the flunkies of his original haters!
それな!元々嫌ってた奴の子分まで応援してるの草生えるわwww王道だけど熱すぎるやろこれ2ちゃん+10
Mediocre-Act483
Yeah. When the OP started playing during the fight, I cranked up the volume
同意。戦闘中にOPが流れ始めた時、音量上げちゃったわ。普通くん+9
BosuW
I don't even like this anime that much but even I have to admit that moment when that student wishing there was something he could do to help Will only for Sion to rush in and cheer him on was pretty moving
Like all these tryhards focus on stats and power scaling they forgot the best thing they could do for him was believe in him
確かに、王道展開ではあるけど、あの場面は演出が巧いんだよな。特に「自分に何かできないか」と願うあの生徒の心情描写が、Sionの応援で一気に昇華される構成になってる。
考察すると、あのクラスメイトたちの「応援」が実はウィルの最大のバフだったんだろう。作中でステータスやパワーバランスを気にする連中は、一番大事な「信じる力」を見落としてる。制作陣はその対比を明確に描いてると思う。考察くん+8
Wasiily
Cliché is a Cliché because when done right it hype as f*ck.
Man I really love cliché done right man.
確かに。ベタはベタだからこそ、ちゃんとやればめっちゃ熱くなるんだよな。
俺もベタをちゃんとやるの大好きだわ。普通くん+6
Soggy_Association491
Damn, that was cool.
マジやばかったじゃん!めっちゃかっこよかったよ〜!ギャル+178
actionfirst1
Even gave us an extended ED just to soak it in
それな!!ED伸ばして余韻に浸らせてくれるの優勝すぎるッ!感情くん+61
Frontier246
And also really double down on how the "prologue" was over.
せやな、まさに「プロローグ終了」をガチで強調してたンゴwww2ちゃん+25
themogchamp
We really just got a season finale fight at episode 4.
マジで4話でシーズン最終決戦級のバトル来たね。普通くん+178
V8Brony
someone else here pointed out that this is probably how the studio wanted season 1 to end, and I hope theyre right in a pretty literal sense; if we are already getting 4+ minutes of closing credits due to lack of finished scenes by episode 4, this season is gonna be rough
それな、誰かが「これが本来シーズン1の最終回として作られてたんやろな」って言ってて、ワイもガチでそう思うわ。もう4話でEDが4分以上流れるって、今期マジでヤバいやろwww2ちゃん+70
monsieurvampy
原文
Most cours are 12 or 13 episodes. I think some series have had 16 (or around this number) episodes and still a single cour but its fairly rare. If airing schedules are centered around 12 or 13 episodes, it could be difficult to get a timeslot if you need additional slots. Something else has to fill that slot at the end. From a business standpoint I would guess its preferred to stay on strict schedules.
確かに、大抵のクールは12〜13話だよね。16話前後で1クール扱いの作品もあるけど、結構レアケース。放送枠が12〜13話を基準にしてるなら、追加枠が必要な時に枠を取るのは難しいんだろうな。他の番組で埋める必要もあるし。ビジネス的には、スケジュールは厳守した方がいいってことだと思う。普通くん+14
V8Brony
原文
I meant that, if episode four is already at the point where they don't have enough scenes ready by the time the episode airs and they have to fill the empty time with a longer credits scene, then it doesn't spell good news for the rest of the season.
Thus, I hope that is not the case, and that this is simply a belated closing-out of the season 1 arc with all the pomp and circumstance you would expect from an actual season-ender.
第4話で既に尺が足りなくてエンドロール伸ばして誤魔化してるとか、今期の残りヤバいんじゃねーのって話や。
…まあ、そうじゃなくて単にS1の締めくくりを盛大にやっただけならいいンゴねぇ。2ちゃん+7
deynyel
I know it’s self-serving like they said, but damn, I’m glad our boy is finally getting the recognition he deserves.
やばくない!?確かに自分勝手って言われてたけどさ、うちの推しがやっと認められてるのマジ嬉しいんだけど!ギャル+137
WhoiusBarrel
An apology from Edward would make it better, but not gonna keep my hopes up for that.
確かにエドワードからの謝罪があれば完璧だけど、そこまでは期待してないかな。普通くん+68
CursedEye03
It would be nice, but we're talking about anime Snape here. I just know he's super petty.
確かに!エドワードが謝ってくれたら最高だけどさ、アニメのスネイプみたいなやつだしね〜。絶対超こじらせてるじゃん!笑ギャル+44
Frontier246
The dude will be thumbing his nose at Will telling him he won't last in the tower right up until Will goes in.
せやな、でもあいつ絶対にやるやろな。ウィルがタワーに入る直前まで鼻で笑いながら「お前には無理や」って言い続けるんやろなwww ガチで陰湿やんあのジジイ。2ちゃん+8
Atachzy
You will know his reasoning soon.
確かに謝罪があればいいけど、期待はしないほうがいいかもね。すぐに彼の考えがわかるよ。普通くん+5
jpvilla30
Oh no, did Will's dad take Edward's girl too?
First the broken glasses, then Finn gives him a "You're a wizard Will!", then Elfaria drops him the sword of Gryffindor. Followed by Will taking out all the dementors with his castle patronus.
あれ、もしかしてウィルの父親もエドワードの彼女を奪ったって考察できる?
まず割れた眼鏡、次にフィンが「お前は魔法使いだ、ウィル!」って言って、エルファリアがグリフィンドールの剣を渡す流れ。
そしてウィルが城の守護霊で全員を倒す――この構成、明らかにハリポタのオマージュだよな。制作陣の意図が透けて見える。考察くん+24
Routine-Hovercraft94
原文
Especially after what Serah said this episode about that this wasn't the time to protect but to believe in him should be hint enough that there is more to Edward and his reason why he wants Will expelled and wants to actually protect him.
Now, I am not saying the way he did it was good, its clearly not. But most people are straight up neither just good or bad and have many different sites to them. Edward is probably just exactly that.
He surely has good intentions, but the way he wants to achive them just suck. Still, makes it more interesting to me than "Edward is mean".
セラが今週「守る時じゃない、信じる時だ」って言ったの見て察したわ
エドワードがウィルを退学させたがるのには裏があるんやろな
多分ウィルを守りたいって意図が
別にワイはやり方が正しいとは言わんよ、明らかにクソだしな
でも人間って善悪だけじゃないし、多面性あるやん
エドワードもまさにそれやろ
善意はあるんだろうけど、達成方法がクソすぎるだけ
でも「エドワードはただの意地悪」ってよりは面白いンゴね2ちゃん+5
tazray80
It's about time, because he really works hard.
確かに、彼が認められるのは時間の問題だったよね。本当に努力してるもんな。普通くん+6
skavinger5882
He won through his ability and hard work. He spent who knows how many hour studying magic he couldn't cast, he wouldn't have been able to do half the stuff with the ice sword if he hadn't put in the effort to understand how Eiffie magic worked
この勝利は、まさに彼自身の能力と努力の結晶だと言える。呪文すら使えない魔法を、どれだけの時間をかけて研究したのか想像もつかない。アイスソードの技の数々も、エルフィーの魔法の仕組みを徹底的に理解しようと努めたからこそ可能だった——そう考察できる。考察くん+5
Himel713
Damn, the op playing was fire.
Pretty much felt like season finale.
Peak shounen energy whole epi
OP曲かっこよすぎだろ。ほぼ最終回みたいな盛り上がりだったな。全編通して少年漫画の頂点って感じだった。普通くん+123
actionfirst1
This anime is shonen as hell and I love every second of it
せやな、OPからガチでかっこよかったわ
まるで最終回みたいな熱さやったンゴ
ワイも毎秒楽しんでるで2ちゃん+79
Himel713
Same. It just simple recipe but is executed in a really good way.
確かに。単純なレシピだけど、めちゃくちゃ上手く機能してるよね。普通くん+29
actionfirst1
It's like a Michelin-Starred McDonald's, it just hits
それな!まじでその例え天才じゃん笑
ミシュラン級マクドって感じで、シンプルなのに最高に決まってるよね!ギャル+25
CursedEye03
Exactly. The story may have some cliche elements, sure. But it just works, it's nice to see.
I'm really enjoying this show as a whole. This episode was great. It felt like a season finale with all shounen peak elements!
確かに。ストーリーには確かに使い古された要素もあるけど、それがちゃんと機能してるのがいいんだよな。
この作品全体としてすごく楽しめてる。今回のエピソードはまさに少年漫画のピーク要素が詰まったシーズンファイナルって感じだった!考察くん+12
Frontier246
Just like when they did the season 1 OP during Will's fight with Julius', this was equally as effective.
せやな、シーズン1のOP流した時みたいに今回もガチで効いてたわ。草生えるぐらい熱かったンゴwww2ちゃん+5
Mediocre-Act483
I crank up the volume whenever stuff like this happens
わかる、こういう展開になると音量上げたくなるよね。普通くん+5
zool714
So does Will get any points from this ? Lol
えっ、ウィルこれでポイントゲットできるの!?笑 まじ気になるんだけど〜!ギャル+83
y3kman
Looks like it since he got the white hat in the next episode preview after the credits.
それな!次回予告で白い帽子ゲットしてたし、ポイント入ったっぽいよねwww感情くん+40
AeonLonginus
Well the reason he failed is he had no credits from spellwork I think casting one of Elfaria's spells flawlessly should count for at least 1 credit.
確かに、エルファリアの魔法を完璧に使えたんだから1単位くらいはもらえてもいいと思うんだけどな。普通くん+29
Aerodynamic41
If there wasn't a next episode preview, I would have totally believed this was the season finale!
Also, nice title drop!
草マジかよ!次回予告なかったら完全に最終回だと思ってたわwww
ついでにタイトル回収もあって良かったンゴねぇ2ちゃん+71
DustyBot23
Apparently this was where season 1 was supposed to end actually!
確かに!次回予告なかったら完全に最終回だと思ってたわ。
あとタイトル回収も良かったね。普通くん+26
CursedEye03
Honestly, I appreciate that they didn't rush it and took their time. So far, the show is really enjoyable. One of my favorite animes this season.
マジそれな!急がずちゃんと時間かけてくれたのありがたいよね。今のところめっちゃ楽しいし、今期のアニメで一番好きかも!ギャル+19
Wonderful_Intern_449
As much as I enjoyed this episode, it’s disappointing to see the drop in quality compared to Season 1. Even the low-priority episodes back then had better animation than this.
このエピソード自体は楽しめたけど、シーズン1と比べてクオリティ落ちたのは残念だな。あの頃は優先度低い回でももっと作画良かったのに。普通くん+62
Loinwash
Very true, compare any of the fights in these 4 episodes so far to the fight between Will and Julius, world of difference.
The Devander fight had some really cool scenes but for such a monumental fight and the first scene where Will unlocks his power, it definitely could've been better, Big portion of the fight wasn't even close up or on screen.
せやな、ウィルvsジュリアスの戦いと比べたら格段の差やわ。
デバンダー戦は確かにカッコいいシーンもあったけど、あれだけの大一番でウィルが初めて力を解放する場面やのに、もっと良くできたやろ。戦闘の大部分がアップにならんかったり画面外やったりでガッカリやわ。2ちゃん+31
UMP45isnotflat
Yeah the action was kinda mid
確かに、アクションはちょっと微妙だったね。普通くん+22
Codee33
I thought I was crazy thinking that, but visually the last fight was disappointing compared to the incredible animation in season 1…
ワイだけかと思ったけど、視覚的にも最終決戦がシーズン1のやばい作画と比べると物足りなかったンゴ…2ちゃん+13
AlienCopulator
Yah there just isn’t as much fluidity and good choreography. It’s very obvious they lost some talent that made s1 look as good as it did
確かに、滑らかさや良い振り付けが減った感じがするね。S1をあれだけ良く見せてた才能が何人か抜けたのは明らかだと思う。普通くん+7
actionfirst1
Call him Ray White since this Iceblade Sorcerer Shall Rule the World
「アイスブレイドソーサラー」って呼べよ、レイ・ホワイトじゃなくてw
世界支配確定やんけwww2ちゃん+56
CuriousBroccolli
Another PEAK mentioned. 🗣️
Will is cool, but he ain't Rizzblade Sorcerer.
Elfie is cool as well, but she ain't \[Iceblade Sorcerer\] >!Lilly White!<
やばっ!また神アニメ出てきたじゃん!🗣️
ウィルもかっこいいけど、Rizzblade Sorcererには敵わないよな。
エルフィもいいけど、やっぱ\[Iceblade Sorcerer\] >!リリィ・ホワイト!<じゃね!?ギャル+21
Zero3020
Bakugo and Kurogiri's reaction to today's episode.
When will cast Elfie's (I think?) magic, god damn that was a good scene.
I do still think that when it comes to sword fighting animation this season so far is a major downgrade but at least the magic still looks great.
For now I am interested to see how the story develops, so let's see how that goes.
今日のエピソードでの爆豪と黒霧の反応が良かったね。
エルフィ(だっけ?)の魔法、いつ発動するんだよ。あのシーンめっちゃ良かったわ。
剣戟アニメーションに関しては今期明らかに劣化してると思うけど、魔法の描写は相変わらず綺麗だね。
とりあえず話の展開が気になるから、どうなるか見守るよ。普通くん+49
Ocixo
> When will cast Elfie’s (I think?) magic, god damn that was a good scene.
You mean the large ice castle? Do believe that was one of Elfie’s spells yeah.
The following explosion, shattering this castle into many pieces, looked pretty neat. Will totally had some “cool guys don’t look at explosions” energy in that moment.
そこの氷の城、エルフィの魔法だよな。あの後の爆発で城が粉々に砕けるカット、演出としてかなり凝ってた。ウィルが「クールな奴は爆発を見ない」的なポーズを決めてたのも、キャラの立ち位置を強調する良い演出だったと思う。考察くん+20
Frontier246
I love it when bad guys lose their @#$% at the protagonist wrecking their plans.
悪役が主人公に計画をぶち壊されてキレるの、めっちゃ好き。普通くん+6
AceSoldia
Lol I laughed when the bad guy dropped his wand. 'impossible!!'
わかる!悪役が杖落とすとこ笑ったw「不可能だッ!!」って叫ぶのウケるwww感情くん+8
Daiwon
Live dullahan reaction
え、まじで!?そのシーンやばすぎじゃん!デュラハンの反応ガチで面白かったし笑ギャル+5
discuss-not-concuss
原文
the payoff is unreal
Will and Elfaria’s relationship, Sion and Julius’s jealousy, his friends, Edward’s reluctant trust, mage’s society view on a flunkee and lore bombs.
Elfaria finally makes a public appearance AND statement by slipping her hands to throw Will a hand (unlike Rosty who lost a hand).
Will’s 500 years old? Finn has some explaining to do, if Mercedes is still alive. which she probably is? since the villains are implied to be royalty or have connections to them due to some royalty politics
報われ方がエグすぎる
- ウィルとエルファリアの関係、シオンとジュリウスの嫉妬、仲間たち、エドワードの渋々の信頼、落第生に対する魔術師社会の見方、そして設定の爆弾
- エルファリアがついに公の場で手を差し伸べる(ロスティのように手を失うのとは対照的に)
- ウィルって500歳なの?フィンには説明してもらわないと。メルセデスがまだ生きてるなら、たぶん生きてるんだろうな。敵は王家か王族と繋がりがあるっぽいし、政治的な駆け引きが背景にあるから普通くん+44
phoenix7240
the implication isnt that wills 500 years old more that wills the end result of a plan set in motion 500 years ago and one finn according to his past statements in prior episodes lost track of. in that it probably had to do with wills bloodline which fin thought lost till he discovered will. remember will was an orphan raised in a village with elfie
ウィルが500歳だというより、500年前に仕組まれた計画の最終到達点がウィルって考察ができるんだよな。フィンは過去のエピソードでの発言から、その計画の行方を見失ってたんだろう。つまり、ウィルの血筋に関係してると思われて、フィンはその血筋が途絶えたと思ってたけど、ウィルを見つけて初めて気づいたんだ。ウィルが孤児でエルフィーと一緒に村で育ったって設定、ここに繋がる伏線だったんだな。考察くん+57
der_dotte
This is pretty much whats implied here. Mercedes gave a baby to Finn and that baby most likely held the potential to awaken the fifth element but over time Finn lost track of the bloodline and thought he had failed his promise but then he found Will who carries the fifths and has successfully awakened it.
それってまさにその通りだと思う。メルセデスがフィンに赤ん坊を預けて、その子が第五元素の覚醒の可能性を持ってたんだろうね。でも時が経つにつれてフィンは血筋を見失って、約束を果たせなかったと思ってたんだよ。でもその後、第五元素を持つウィルを見つけて、無事に覚醒させることに成功したってわけだ。普通くん+44
HagetakaSensei
原文
this episode is so weird to me
1. Will's power ups feels unearned. They are given to him both times and he suddenly knows how to use them. (Elfie's I can understand but not Finn's). He is struggling to pass a couple of episodes ago, and now this without resolving it?
2. So all the others can do is shout? didnt they figure out that using magic to indirectly do physical damage works? what about chasing those perpetrators? (they dont have immunity to magic as far as I know). Would be nice if they use their magic to buff/boost/support Will and suppress the enemy.
3. Speaking of, Will can use the magic of others to his sword so its safe to assume that he will do it with his buddies first but nah lets go straight to Elfie which is a high ranking mage. and we used it against a monster without a personality. so where do we go from here in terms of power scaling?
sorry for the comparison but if we want to talk about a fight with someone without magic try black clover's zagred fight. Everybody contributed there and the MC didnt solve everything by himself.
このエピソード、正直違和感しかなかったんだよな。
1. ウィルのパワーアップが唐突すぎる。二回とも与えられた能力で、しかも突然使いこなしてる。エルフィの杖はまだ理解できるけど、フィンの能力は無理がある。数話前まで苦戦してたのに、その問題を解決しないままこんな展開になるのは違和感が大きい。
2. 他のメンバーは叫んでるだけ?間接的に物理ダメージを与える魔法の使い方に気づかないのか?追跡もできないし(彼らに魔法耐性があるとは思えない)。仲間がウィルをバフしたり敵を弱体化させる連携があれば良かった。
3. ウィルは他人の魔法を剣に宿せるんだから、まず仲間の能力から試すのが自然だと思う。なのにいきなり高位魔導士のエルフィの力を借りて、人格のないモンスター相手に使うって、今後のパワーバランスどうなるんだ?
※比較で悪いけど、魔法なしの戦闘と言えばブラッククローバーのザグレド戦が好例。あそこでは全員が貢献して、主人公だけで解決しなかった。考察くん+42
LivingMasterpiece0
Yeah, these crazy powerups making will a god out of nowhere irked me a little
せやな、急にウィルが神みたいなパワーアップして草。ワイもちょっとモヤったわwww2ちゃん+22
UMP45isnotflat
Glad someone else said this.
This ep was super weird. Mediocre action, unearned powerup leading to questionable hype. Overlong ED. Repeat of last ep at the beginning to fill the runtime, one piece style.
Atleast Elfie did something cool I guess?
同意。このエピソードはなんか変だったな。
アクションも微妙だし、パワーアップが唐突すぎて盛り上がりに疑問が残る。ED長すぎだし、前回の使い回しで尺稼ぎしてたし、ワンピかよって感じ。
まあエルフィがかっこよかったのは救いかな。普通くん+12
xzerozeroninex
2. With the speed of the battle and without coordination,the mages could had hit Will instead and if they accidentally injure him,all hope is gone.
確かに!急すぎるパワーアップは違和感しかないッ!
それに戦闘中の連携不足でウィルに誤射したら終わりじゃん…危なっかしすぎて見てて冷や冷やするわ感情くん+8
UMP45isnotflat
Lame excuse. He had the time to stand around and wait for the ice sword to fall down, he is fast enough to fall back, get someones spell to charge up too.
確かにそれは言い訳にしか聞こえないな。アイスソードが落ちてくるのを待つ時間があったんだから、後退して誰かの魔法をチャージさせる余裕もあったはずだと思う。普通くん+6
eco999
I'm with you on this. Not a fan of this arc.
確かにそれな。このアークは俺も微妙すぎる。Willのパワーアップが急すぎてエモくないし、なんか納得いかないんだよな…感情くん+9
DonutPuncher-Muncher
It’s only me or the animation fell in comparison with first season ?
ワイだけか?シーズン1と比べて作画落ちてね?2ちゃん+32
MillyMan105
It's cause Tatsuya Yoshihara who was the dirctor for Black Clover & Chainsaw man took a step back for season 2 to become a chief director. If you go back and watch the prevoius fight scenes in S1 you can defintely feel less of his presence.
確かに、S1と比べると作画落ちた気がするね。理由は吉原達矢(ブラッククローバーやチェンソーマンの監督)がS2から総監督に退いたからだと思う。S1の戦闘シーン見返すと、彼の影響力が明らかに減ってるのが分かるよ。普通くん+28
Silent-Witness1888
Ya its nothing like S1, the animation/action is what kept me watching this show. If that falls then there's no point for me.
せやな、S1とは全然ちゃうわ。作画・アクションがこのアニメの見どころやったのに、それが落ちたらワイにはもう意味ないンゴwww2ちゃん+9
Realistic-Boat-677
Majorly that was all mediocre asf except the ice castle which was only slightly better.
同意。氷の城以外は全体的に微妙だったね。ちょっとマシって程度だし。普通くん+8
SgtExo
There is def something missing.
確かに!なんか前より迫力落ちてない?笑ギャル+8
LeonKevlar
原文
Well that opening is interesting! I'm guessing the baby is supposed to be Will? Is the woman his mother? And if I understand this correctly, Finn was tasked to produce someone who can use the fifth element? Hmmm...
Look at our boy! He looks so goddamn handsome with his transformation! What is it with Omori-sensei and white-haired protagonists? And look at Elfie's reaction. Girl looks like she needs a change of underwear. 😆
I'd like to note that it was Sion who started cheering on Will while the OP starts playing in the background. Usually, this role is reserved for the love interest. Elfie and Colette need to step up before Sion steals him.
Elfie being cheeky with her assist was such a great scene! The sight of Will using a double-bladed greatsword made out of ice is so fucking ridiculous, but it's so fucking hype! I fucking love this show so much!
So Finn called the woman in the opening scene a "witch" while Oldking calls her the Mage Queen. Have we heard of that title before? It's been a while since Season 1 and I don't really recall if that's been mentioned in the past.
The entire fight was basically Will and Elfie working together. It's so goddamn cool to see Will defeat the reinforcements Headless sent almost instantly.
Just like Finn said last episode, it looks like Workner is alive and is slowly recovering. Man, I am curious what kind of magic he has that lets him survive having a hole in the chest.
I'm sorry Finn, but what do you mean by 500 years?! So that scene at the start was set 500 years ago? And what do you mean, this is just the prologue??? If this is just the prologue them I'm hyped to see what the actual start of the story would be like!
オープニング面白かったな!あの赤ん坊ってウィルなのか?女性は母親?んでフィンの任務は第5属性を使えるやつを作り出すことって解釈で合ってる?🤔
ウィル、変身後めっちゃイケメンじゃん!大森先生って白髪主人公好きだよな?エルフィの反応見てるとパンツ替えたくなったんじゃね?笑
オープニング流れる中、シオンが最初にウィル応援してたの注目だわ。普通こういうのヒロインの役目じゃん?エルフィとコレットはシオンに取られる前に頑張らないと。
エルフィのアシスト、小賢しくて最高だった!氷の双剣使うウィル見てると馬鹿げてるけど超熱い!この作品マジで大好き!
フィンはオープニングの女を"魔女"って呼んでたけど、老王は魔導女王って呼んでたな。その称号、過去に聞いたことあったっけ?シーズン1から時間経ってて覚えてないわ。
戦闘は完全にウィルとエルフィの連携プレイだったな。ヘッドレスが呼んだ増援を一瞬で片付けるのめっちゃかっこよかった!
フィンが言ってた通り、ワークナーは生きてて徐々に回復してるっぽいな。胸に穴開いても生きられる魔法って何なんだろう。
ちょっと待てフィン、500年ってどういう意味だよ?!最初のシーンは500年前の話ってこと?んでこれまだプロローグなの?!本編始まったらどんだけヤバい展開になるんだよ楽しみ普通くん+32
der_dotte
That women is Mercedes, she is the builder of the tower and one of the strongest wands ever alive. Its not implied that the baby is Will, rather that Will is a descendant of that baby's bloodline. Though Finn had lost track of that bloodline and only rediscovered it now after a long time.
あの女性はメルセデスだ。塔を建設した人物であり、歴史上最強の杖使いの一人とされている。赤ん坊がウィル本人というより、ウィルはその血筋の子孫であるという考察ができる。フィンは長い間その血筋を見失っていたが、今回ようやく再発見したという流れだな。考察くん+20
Frontier246
原文
>Well that opening is interesting! I'm guessing the baby is supposed to be Will? Is the woman his mother? And if I understand this correctly, Finn was tasked to produce someone who can use the fifth element? Hmmm...
You can't just introduce Marina Inoue as a witch baddie related to Will and not show more of her. Though honestly that scene was really sad with the way she had to force herself to take her finger away and walk away from her child while it was crying for her.
>Look at our boy! He looks so goddamn handsome with his transformation! What is it with Omori-sensei and white-haired protagonists? And look at Elfie's reaction. Girl looks like she needs a change of underwear. 😆
Did you see her face when Will was wielding her magic? She was acting like they were having sex. She was definitely wet then lol.
>Elfie being cheeky with her assist was such a great scene! The sight of Will using a double-bladed greatsword made out of ice is so fucking ridiculous, but it's so fucking hype! I fucking love this show so much!
You remember how much Rosty loved to tease/mess with people and monopolize Will? That was clearly Elfie as we see her exhibit her real personality here.
>The entire fight was basically Will and Elfie working together. It's so goddamn cool to see Will defeat the reinforcements Headless sent almost instantly.
The only thing more powerful than Elife's thighs are these two childhood friend lovebirds channeling their power together to save the day.
>I'm sorry Finn, but what do you mean by 500 years?! So that scene at the start was set 500 years ago? And what do you mean, this is just the prologue??? If this is just the prologue them I'm hyped to see what the actual start of the story would be like!
Now they're going to have to introduce threats that can top the Devander.
確かに、マリノ・イノウエがウィルに関係する魔女の悪役として出てきたのに、もっと見せないのはもったいないよね。あのシーンは本当に悲しかったな。泣いてる子供から指を離して歩いていかなきゃいけなかったんだから。
- ウィルの変身姿、めっちゃかっこいいよね。大森先生はなんでいつも白髪主人公なんだろう?エルフィの反応も面白かったな。彼女、下着替えが必要そうだったよ(笑)
- ウィルが彼女の魔法を使ってる時の顔、まるでセックスしてるみたいだったな。確かに濡れてたと思うわ(笑)
- エルフィが生意気にアシストするシーンは最高だった!氷の両刃大剣を使うウィル、馬鹿げてるけどめっちゃ熱い!この作品大好き!
- ロスティが人をからかってウィルを独占するのが好きだったのを覚えてる?あれは明らかにエルフィの本当の性格だよね。
- 戦闘はウィルとエルフィのコンビネーションが完璧だった。ヘッドレスが送った増援を一瞬で倒すのはかっこよすぎる。
- エルフィの太ももより強いのは、この幼なじみカップルが力を合わせて危機を救うことだな。
フィンが500年って言ったのは意味不明だよね。冒頭のシーンは500年前の話なの?しかもこれがまだプロローグってどういうこと?本編が始まったらどれだけすごいんだろう!今後の敵はデヴァンダーを超普通くん+5
jirenchan
Was this only the prologue? and peak title drop
プロローグだけってガチかよ…しかもタイトル回収がエグすぎて草www2ちゃん+29
_Nextt_
Calling this the prologue in season 2 is wild. This has got me so much more curious about the whole lore behind everything
Season2でまだプロローグって言うのヤバくない?むしろそのおかげで世界観の謎がすごく気になってきたわ普通くん+28
Sidious_09
原文
This episode looked really cool but to be completely honest I am a bit disappointed that the story ended up being another "turns out he actually can use magic" type of thing. I know it's technically Elfaria's magic, but Will was creating castles and ice spikes on his own after absorbing it. It didn't really feel like mage and swordsman working together, more like Will doing everything on his own. He didn't just have an ice-sword or a spell attached to his sword, he was actively using magic, even reciting the spells.
On the other hand though it does at least not come out of nowhere, since we saw him diligently studying all this time, so it makes sense that he knows the spells, he just can't execute them without borrowing someone's magic. He's like an amplifier of sorts. I still preferred when Will's talents were actually swordsmanship and learning on the job though, on top of superhuman durability and strength. It was also more fitting for dealing with the Anti-Magic enemies, instead of just going for the boring "actually his magic is so strong that it ignores that" trope.
今回の話は見た目めっちゃカッコよかったンゴけど、正直「実は魔法使えた」展開なのはちょっとガッカリやわ。エルファリアの魔法って設定やけど、ウィルが吸収した後は勝手に城とか氷の槍作りまくってたやん。魔術師と剣士の連携ってより、ウィルが全部一人でやってる感がすごかったわ。氷の剣とか呪文付与とかじゃなくて、普通に魔法使ってたし、詠唱までしてたしな。
とはいえ、ずっと勉強してた描写があるから突然感はないんやけどな。呪文自体は知ってるけど、魔法を借りないと発動できないって設定で、いわば増幅器みたいなもんやろ。ワイはやっぱりウィルの才能が剣術と現場学習ベースで、人間離れした耐久力と筋力って設定の方が好みやったわ。対魔法無効の敵にも「実は魔法の出力が強すぎて無視できる」って安易な展開より、そっちの方が合ってたと思うンゴね。2ちゃん+27
SpuukBoi
He didn’t overpower it because his magic was so strong, it was the fact that it was magic combined with whatever it is that allows him to do the sword thing.
確かに。魔法だけじゃなくて、剣を使える能力との組み合わせってのがポイントだよね。その辺の設定はちゃんと活かされてて良かったと思う。普通くん+12
SpuukBoi
The anime also said that Will is a user of a fifth element that was thought to be myth until he showed up. It’s entirely possible the anti magic swords just aren’t made to be able to negate that fifth element because nobody knows how it works.
この描写から考察すると、ウィルが「伝説上の存在」とされていた第五の属性の使い手であることが明確に示されている。つまり、対魔剣は第五属性に対抗するよう設計されていない可能性が高い。なぜなら、その仕組みを誰も理解していないからだ。制作陣の意図としては、ウィルの特異性を強調するための伏線と見て取れる。考察くん+11
Shimmering-Sky
- Will does look *really* cool like this.
- Gordon “sore demo”!
- Aw hell yeah, OP as an insert song! And since it’s the full version, that means I get to collect this “sore demo”… but not the second one I know the full version has because it cut off before it played that part.
- Oh shit, his sword broke?
- Yoooooooooooooo
- This is a nice shot.
- Will and Elfie did it!
- ウィル、この姿マジでかっこいいな
- ゴードンの「それでも」!
- お、挿入歌でOP来た!フルバージョンだからこの「それでも」は回収できたけど…もう一つあるやつはその前に切れちゃったから聞けなかったな
- うわ、剣折れた?
- うおおおおおおおお
- いい画だな
- ウィルとエルフィ、やったね!普通くん+25
Frontier246
Imagine if they'd brought back "Fire and Fury" (season 1 OP) for the Will and Elfie magic duet, but the music was still very effective here for Will's finest hour.
確かにそれな!Willめっちゃかっこよかったよね!
Gordonの「sore demo」はやばくね!?
OP挿入歌もアガるし、でも「Fire and Fury」でWillとElfieの魔法デュエット来てたらまじでやばかったかも!笑
まあ今回の曲もWillの見せ場にめっちゃ合ってたけどね!ギャル+5
gamikhan
This episode was so padded of cheering and this long ass ending, how did this not fit in season 1?
It is also a shame that the animation is noticeably worse than S1 but it is what it is
この回、応援シーン多すぎてエンディング長すぎやろwww なんでこれS1に入らなかったんや?
作画も明らかにS1より落ちてて草生えるけど、しゃーないンゴね2ちゃん+26
BusouDrago
Timeslot
Another anime at that time was going to air in its spot that next season
確かに!枠の問題やばくない?同じ時間帯に別のアニメが次のクールで始まるって知ってたんだけど、それで尺が伸びたっぽいじゃん。でもまじで尺伸ばしすぎじゃね?笑ギャル+7
Saizou1991
the fall in animation needs to be studied. They have no definition, the frames are too close so that less things are animated, feels bloated
確かに作画の劣化は研究対象レベルだな。輪郭がぼやけてて、フレーム間が詰まりすぎて動きが減ってる。なんか膨張してる感じがする。普通くん+27
AgentWeeb001
Ultra Instinct Will really put in THAT WORK. Can’t wait for the next episode
Edit: can we like fast forward to next week? The hype got me really thinking about going straight into the manga cause I can’t wait 😂
この「Ultra Instinct」状態の描写、本当に制作陣のこだわりを感じるな。戦闘アニメーションのクオリティが一段と跳ね上がってる。考察するに、この演出は原作の持つ“技の冴え”を視覚的に昇華しようとした意図が窺える。
来週まで待てない気持ち、すごく分かる。マンガに手を出したくなる衝動、俺も何度も味わった。ただ、アニメならではの動きと演出を楽しむなら、やっぱり来週を待つ価値はあると思うんだよな。考察くん+21
Federal-Swim5286
ultra instinct + domain expansion lol
それな。Ultra Instinctに領域展開とかもう反則すぎるだろ。来週まで待てないわ。普通くん+7
coalitionagainstgod
Bro read the manga I promise it won’t disappoint, I fucking binged that shit now I’m at the latest chapter.
それな!マジで漫画読んでみ?絶対裏切らないから!私もぶっ通しで読んじゃって最新話まで追いついたんだけど、やばすぎてやばい!ギャル+5
Ponchorello7
Has the show always been this corny? I'm not a huge fan of Will actually secretly being a "special" all along, even if it was heavily implied since the first season. Still, pretty fun episode.
このアニメって前からこんなベタベタな感じだったっけ?ウィルが実は最初から「特別」だったって展開はあんまり好きじゃないんだよね。シーズン1からほのめかされてたのは分かってるけどさ。でも、今回のエピソードは結構楽しかったよ。普通くん+17
SgtExo
Yes, but these episodes seem to have cranked it up a notch. Its kinda taking me out of it.
同意。でも今回のエピソードは特にその感じが強すぎるッ!ちょっと冷めちゃったわ。感情くん+12
oops_i_made_a_typi
yeah i want to enjoy the show but i'm feeling like a hater who's just seeing all the flaws rn
わかる。俺も楽しみたいんだけど、今は粗探ししてるだけのアンチみたいになってる気分だよ。普通くん+5
oops_i_made_a_typi
basically what the others said - kinda yes, but it's turned up even more at the peak, at the same time as the animation has been turned down which makes for a really rough experience coming from S1
それな!まじでそう思うわ〜笑
S1からそういうノリはあったけど、今シーズンは特に盛り上がるところでアニメのクオリティが落ちてて、見てて結構きつくない!?ギャル+5
Desperate-Middle4766
原文
It has but, I think the poor pacing and questionable writing is making it stand out more. Like some of the story is cool but it’s been choppy for a few episodes. In the grand scheme this would be episodes 13-16; which if you remember standard 24 episode series, that’s kind of the awkward part of the series. Kind of like the episodes 6-9 nowadays.
I could also totally be wrong 🤣 but I want to hope they clean it up really quickly
確かに元々そういう傾向はあったけど、最近の間の悪さや微妙な脚本が目立つようになった気がする。ストーリー自体は面白いところもあるんだけど、ここ数話は粗いというか。24話構成で言えば13〜16話あたりで、今で言う6〜9話みたいな微妙な立ち位置なんだよね。
俺の見当違いかもしれないけど、早く改善されることを願ってるよ🤣普通くん+5
foxfoxal
This episode sure annoyed me, what do you mean half of the episode is just people screaming and cheering, come on time and place, we get it, it did not need to last long while having the fight off screened.
And the show looks pretty but the animation is not as good as some episodes of S1, its mostly effects and fast cuts, they are clearly skipping in betweens and complicated movement sequences.
この回マジでイライラしたわ。なんで半分ぐらい叫び声と歓声だけやねん。場面考えろや、わかったから!長引かせる必要ないし、戦闘オフスクリーンとかマジかよ。
見た目は綺麗だけど、作画はS1の一部の回より落ちてるンゴwww。ほとんどエフェクトと早いカット割りで、明らかに中抜きして複雑な動きを避けてるやろ。2ちゃん+17
shad79
原文
It's a good thing there was a preview for the next episode, otherwise I'd have thought it was the end of the season 😆
Overall, this was a great episode, just like the previous two! I love that Will finally showed everyone how powerful and cool he is. I can't wait to see how his life will change after today's events.
The scene where everyone is rooting for Will (well, almost everyone, as Ed-sensei wasn't exactly enthusiastic about it) was maybe a little too cheesy for my taste, but hey, it was definitely better option than trying to "help" him.
It's also nice to see Elfaria finally doing something instead of just watching like usual and throwing Will a new, super cool sword.
Here my screenshot albums from:
EPISODE 04 (today's one)
* Elfaria
* Will
* Group scenes
* Others
EPISODE 03
* later
EPISODE 02
* later
次回予告があったのは助かったな。これでシーズン終了かと思ったわ(笑)
全体的に前2話と同じく素晴らしい回だった!ウィルがついに自分の力とカッコよさを皆に見せつけたのが最高だ。今日の出来事で彼の人生がどう変わるか、待ちきれない。
皆がウィルを応援するシーン(まあ、エド先生はあんまり乗り気じゃなかったけど)はちょっとベタすぎる気もしたが、彼を「助けよう」とするよりははるかにマシな選択だったな。
エルファリアがいつもの見守るだけの姿勢からついに動き、ウィルに新たな超カッコいい剣を投げたのも良かった。
以下、スクリーンショットアルバム:
EPISODE 04(本日分)
- エルファリア
- ウィル
- 集団シーン
- その他
EPISODE 03
- 後日
EPISODE 02
- 後日考察くん+19
Realistic-Boat-677
The animation is just so bad this season it’s just so visually boring compared to the first season but they at least tried this episode.
今シーズンの作画ほんとひどいよね。第1期と比べて映像的に退屈すぎるけど、今回は少なくとも頑張ってたかな。普通くん+17
oops_i_made_a_typi
seeing a bunch of ppl still praising the animation really has me realize that a lot of ppl are fundamentally seeing different things. and i'm hardly an animation snob who spends time on sakugabooru either
同意。これだけ作画落ちてんのに「すげえ!」って言ってるやつ見ると、ワイと見てるアニメ違うんか?ってなるわ。ワイもsakugabooru見るようなアニメオタクやないけど、さすがに気付くやろこれ…2ちゃん+6
malacata
Tutorial is finally over
やっとチュートリアル終わったじゃん!これから本番って感じでやばくね!?ギャル+13
Relative-Seaweed-590
原文
DUDE THIS WAS HYPE!!!! But I feel like I'm the only one who is MAJOR confused. Maybe it's because Season 1 was plenty of months ago and I probably forgot a few things. But for some reason this feels so out of nowhere. Like I need the anime to give me a full on explanation on how and what the hell is happening? Just WHO is Will? WHO is Finn? Is that Mage Queen Wills Mother? 500 Years? Just how does Wand and Sword ACTUALLY work?
Also, for some reason it's hard to get into this series like I did with Season 1. I don't know why, like I said, maybe it's because Season 2 took a while so I forgotten some things? Or maybe it's the animation? Or maybe it's because things happened out of nowhere so I don't know what's going on that's confusing me? Or maybe things is happening so fast since we're 4 episodes in? I still like this season though. I just wish these 4 episodes were in Season 1. It would've been a great way to end it and to have everything in one Season 1. Especially if this is supposed to be the "prologue".
確かにめっちゃ熱かったけど、正直俺だけかもしれないけどかなり混乱してる。シーズン1から何ヶ月も経ってて忘れてるのもあるんだろうけど、急に話が飛んだ感じがするんだよね。ウィルって誰?フィンって誰?魔女王はウィルの母親なの?500年って何?杖と剣の仕組みは結局どうなってるの?
あと、シーズン1みたいに没頭できなくなってる。理由はわかんないけど、間が空いたから忘れたのか、作画のせいか、急に展開が来て置いてけぼりになってるのか。もう4話で展開速すぎるし。でもシーズン自体は好きだよ。この4話がシーズン1にあれば良かったのにって思うだけ。特にこれが「プロローグ」って位置づけなら、シーズン1で完結してた方が綺麗だったな。普通くん+12
contemporare
How did this show go from forgivable cringe to unforgivable cringe so fast?
Season 1 had the tropey and cringey character personality annoyances, but were forgivable because the setting was kind of interesting and the action was good.
But Season 2 has just been pure cringe, and not the good kind. And the story has just become a vessel for the annoying personality types.
Really disappointing.
この作品、許容できる痛々しさから一気に許容不能な痛々しさに転落したよな。
1期はテンプレ的なキャラのうざさはあったけど、世界観が面白くてアクションも良かったから許容できた。
でも2期は純粋な痛々しさだけが残って、ストーリーがただのうざキャラの器になってる。
本当に残念だわ。考察くん+12
merubin
原文
I agree with you. I never expected this series to have superb writing or anything but it was still fun to watch with your brain turned off but this season it's just been tropes after tropes, unearned power-ups and asspulls just for the sake of being cool.
Animation is ok-ish but the fight choreography leaves a lot to be desired. A lot of still frames, weird jump cuts without actually showing the fight completely.
確かに同意だよ。シーズン1は頭空っぽにして見る分には楽しかったけど、今期はテンプレの連続で、無理やりなパワーアップやご都合展開ばかりで萎える。作画はまあ許容範囲だけど、戦闘シーンの構成が微妙で、静止画多めだし変なカット割りで戦闘をちゃんと見せてくれないのが残念。普通くん+12
contemporare
原文
It's like the author or director has a checklist of the most stereotypical "moments" that he wants to happen, and they're just cutting from moment to moment without developing a single thing between it for any of the moments to feel earned.
And half of the new developments completely undermine any thematic undertones that could be seen in season 1. And were condensed all into a 'courage in spite of contrived social adversity' was the magic that unlocks the predetermined ability you were born with in secret by the powers at be. Which in itself completely undermines the power scaling progression developed in season 1.
It's all just a joke now. It's for those anime watchers that feed off of these empty moments because they just want to experience the feeling the moment is trying to convey and can handwave the fact that it's empty by filling it with imaginary filler to make it make sense in their head. That's great that they're able to do that. But for me it feels way too fake.
同意やな。ワイも別にこのシリーズに超絶ストーリーとか求めてなかったけどな。
でももう完全に笑い話やで。作者か監督が「テンプレシーン」のチェックリスト持ってて、それをただ繋げてるだけ。キャラの成長とか一切挟まずに、次から次へと場面飛ばしてるやん。
しかも新展開の半分が、season1で描かれてたテーマ性を完全にぶち壊してる。
- 「社会の逆境に立ち向かう勇気」が、実は隠された生まれつきの能力を解除する鍵でした、とか。
- それでseason1で積み上げたパワーバランスが全部パー。
結局、空虚な演出を脳内補完で「なんとなく良い話」にして楽しめる層向けのアニメになってるわ。それができる人はそれでええんやけど、ワイには嘘臭すぎて無理や。2ちゃん+8
oops_i_made_a_typi
yeah i started S1 liking it, middle episodes started turning me off, and then the hype at the end brought it home for me, despite the cliche/cornyness/cringe - like you said, it was forgivable.
but they've turned it up so much so it feels hard to keep ignoring, especially because the visuals are faltering hard
確かに。S1は最初は面白かったけど中盤で冷めて、終盤の盛り上がりで持ち直した感じだよね。あの時点ではまだ「許せる」範囲だった。
でも今シーズンはその要素が強くなりすぎて無視しづらくなってる。特に作画が明らかに落ちてるのが痛い。普通くん+6
redlaWw
Way too much telling, not enough showing.
確かに、「見せろ」って感じだよな…説明が多すぎて逆に冷めるんだよな。もっとちゃんと描写してほしかったわ。感情くん+10
WalkingAbacus
We got the title drop!!
That was really hype. Nothing is more satisfying than being cheered on by the ones who had mocked you. Elfie "accidentally" dropping the sword for Will, the combination of Will's sword and Elfie's ice magic, and the ice castle are all really cool.
Also, playing the OP during the fight will never not be hype.
タイトル回収キターーー!!(゚∀゚)
マジでアガったわ。今までバカにしてた連中から声援受けるのが一番気持ちええな。エルフィが「偶然」剣落としたり、ウィルの剣×エルフィの氷魔法の合体技とか氷の城とか全部カッコよすぎやろ。
つーか戦闘中にOP流すの反則級にアガるンゴwww2ちゃん+9
FoolingFinality
This entire episode was a hypefest. There were certain scenes which were jarring, but it would be me just nitpicking.
So let's meet again in the next season since we had completed the season with such an ending, as of this day, let's depart.
このエピソード全体がめっちゃアガったわ。気になるシーンもあったけど、細かいこと言うとキリがないしね。
そんなわけで、この終わり方でシーズン完走したから、また次のシーズンで会おう。今日はここでお別れだ。普通くん+8
BichitoMaxx
This anime is basically all the Shonen cliches, templates and plots expertly executed and I love it. Nothing new but all good.
草、少年漫画のテンプレ全部盛りやんwww でも完璧に決めててワイは好きやで。新しさはないけど全部面白いンゴ2ちゃん+10
mel-onii
原文
Okay ill be honest i have mixed feelings, i dont think will shouldve had a transformation or "access to the fifth element" or any form of a secret "this character is a decendent to a godlike being" at least not this early into the story, so far out of the main group of characters he is already arguably the strongest of them and was already the mvp of this entire fight and also this proved he is officially "stronger than a magia vender" since he defeated a monster capable of defeating at least one of them.
For me season one stood for hard work and motivation despite not being able to use magic but being able to trascend it by brute force especially in the fight against episode 2 where it talks about a dwarf being recognized for landing a single hit on a mage proving that they can step up to them. now that will can transform this premise feels kind of ruined for me (ALSO WHERE WERE THE DWARVES THESE EPISODES THEY HYPED THEM UP AND THEY HAD NO IMPORTANT SCREEN TIME)
Also i hated the "magic absorbing sword" its okay to introduce it maybe eventually but this is way too early to introduce a total countee to magic that renders it useless i think it shouldve had a proper build up and more of as sense of scale rather than just randomly introducing it+ it being mass produced and not a singular artifact was kind of dumb, especially since it has no counter other than not using magic, in a show were will was seen as weak, making him the only remotely useful character for a whole arc is kind of bad writing... Ill still watch the show iv not hated it but the town just shifted so much these past few episodes and i wasnt a fan i dont even know if to say if it felt rushed because in general i dont agree with these writing choices
正直言うと複雑な気分だよ。ウィルが変身したり「第五元素」にアクセスしたり、ましてや「神の子孫」みたいな秘密の設定をこの早い段階で出すのはどうかと思う。すでにメインキャラの中で最強クラスだし、今回の戦いのMVPだったし、マギア・ヴェンダーより強いって証明されたようなものだしね。
個人的にシーズン1は、魔法が使えなくても努力と根性で力でねじ伏せるってテーマが良かったんだ。特にドワーフが魔法使いに一撃入れて認められるエピソードとかね。でも今ウィルが変身できるようになったことで、その前提が台無しになった気がする(あとドワーフたちはどこ行ったんだよ!あれだけ盛り上げといて重要な出番なしって…)。
「魔力吸収の剣」も嫌いだな。導入するにしてももっと後で良かったし、魔法を完全に無効化するカウンターをいきなり量産品として出すのは安っぽい。特に「魔法を使わない」以外に対抗手段がない時点で、ウィルだけが有能になる展開は正直雑な脚本だと思う。それでもまだ見続けるけど、ここ数話で方向性が急変しすぎててついていけない。普通くん+8
RaivySenses
This genuinely felt like a season finale
まじでシーズン最終回って感じだった…!エモすぎるッ!!感情くん+7
ObvsThrowaway5120
Man, that was a great episode. Bro just handin out non-stop ass whoopins left and right with a little help from Elfaria. That’s the Chosen One for ya. Those monsters did not stand a chance after he went all Super Saiyan.
いやー、今回のエピソードめっちゃ良かったな。ウィルがエルファリアの助けも借りて次々と敵をボコボコにしてたよ。さすが選ばれし者だわ。あいつが超サイヤ人状態になった後は、モンスターたち全く歯が立たなかったね。普通くん+6
Cold_Ad8276
Elfaria is cool af
エルファリアガチでかっこよすぎやろwww2ちゃん+6
y3kman
This should've been the ending for season one.
To the surprise of no one, Will turned out to be the chosen one *wand + sword). He's the son or at least a descendant of the founding mage, Mercedes, right?
シーズン1の終わりはこれであるべきだったな。
案の定ウィルが選ばれし者(杖+剣)だったね。彼は創設魔導士メルセデスの息子か、少なくとも子孫なんだろう?普通くん+6
Alpha_X_04
Damn almost 2 and a half seasons of the anime was prologue? Wow.
Very satisfying episode the shocked faces were nice. The no talent student pulling offa grand spell from a magia vander's orginal collection to one shot enemy horde, everyone is now forced to acknowledge him. A satisfying revenge I'll say.
草www アニメ2期半がプロローグってガチかよ
めっちゃスッキリしたわ。あの驚いた顔がたまらんかったわ
無能扱いされてた奴がマギア・ヴァンダーのオリジナルコレクションから大魔法ぶっ放して敵の大群を一掃とか、もう全員認めるしかないやろ
まさに痛快な復讐劇やな2ちゃん+6
SYZekrom
God. When Season 1 aired I was just like 'well that was ok' for a long time (Though iirc the very first episodes did get my hyped up that it would be something truly magical) but it just got more and more interesting and season 2 has been a blast.
確かに。シーズン1の時は最初「まあこんなもんか」って感じだったんだよね(でも最初の数話はめっちゃワクワクした覚えある)。でもどんどん面白くなってきて、シーズン2はめちゃくちゃ楽しいわ。普通くん+5
NanDemoKnaives
原文
As cliche as the scene may be, I actually shed a tear after those students were wondering what they could even do, reflecting on how badly they've treated Will, to then seeing Sion rush in without any hesitation and cheering Will on. I don't think that moment would have had the same impact on me if it was Colette, but the fact that Sion is the first one to cheer him on, especially after his thoughts before Will appears to save him, moved me quite a bit.
It was also bittersweet to hear Will saying "even if this is the only time they cheer for me" and I hope for his sake it is not, but I'm glad to see how happy it was making him to receive that support. He was going crazy, I really enjoy seeing the way he fights and it's nice that he had more options thanks to Elfaria's magic.
The way Elfaria summoned that sword and her "hand slipped" was funny, I like how much she was enjoying herself seeing Will fight, she loves him so much lol. I did find it amusing how a castle was summoned with that one spell but it didn't seem do anything itself but be decoration.
I'm curious to see where the story will go now that the "prologue" is over with, Will's standing should change completely, and Finn's comment about taking down the fake sky and the previews makes me wonder if Will will be leaving the city entirely.
あの展開ベタっちゃベタやん?でもワイ、あの生徒たちが「自分たちに何ができるんだ」って後悔してるところに、シオンが迷わず飛び込んでウィルを応援したシーンで涙出てもうたわ。コレットやったらここまで響かんかったと思うけど、シオンが最初に声上げたってのが、特にウィルに助けられる前の彼の心境考えるとガチでグッときたンゴ。
ウィルの「たとえ今回だけでも応援してくれるなら」って台詞も切なかったな。ワイはそれだけじゃ終わらんでほしいと思うけど、あれだけ喜んでる姿見ると嬉しいわ。戦い方めっちゃクレイジーで好きやし、エルファリアの魔法で選択肢増えたのも良かった。
エルファリアが剣召喚して「手が滑った」って言うの草生えるわ。ウィルの戦い見て楽しそうなの好きすぎる、マジで彼のこと愛してるやろなwww。あの城召喚魔法は飾りにしかなってなかったけどそれはそれで笑えたわ。
「プロローグ」終わったし、これからどうなるか気になるわ。ウィルの立場ガラリと変わるやろし、フィンの「偽りの空を打ち落とす」発言と予告見ると、ウィルが街を出てく展開になるんかな。2ちゃん+5
bondsmatthew
That *wasn't* the finale? That felt like a finale episode haha
あれが最終回じゃなかったの?完全に最終回っぽい雰囲気だったんだけどな笑普通くん+5
skygz
There's a real important lesson here. When it seems like the world is against you, when they keep tearing you down because you're not like everyone else, when you try so hard only to get knocked down time after time. Just activate your glowing anime powers.
このシーンから学べる重要な教訓がある。世界が自分に敵対しているように感じ、周りと違うという理由で引き裂かれ、何度も立ち上がろうとしては打ちのめされる——そんな時は"アニメの光るパワー"を発動させろ、というメッセージ性が強いな。制作陣は「努力が報われない」という逆境を、超自然的な力で跳ね返す展開を描くことで、視聴者にカタルシスを与えつつ、現実逃避的なテーマを提示していると考察できる。考察くん+5
FakePretendeRat
8 minutes of recap and outro is diabolical, this is only episode 4?
8分も総集編とエンディングに使うのは酷すぎるだろ、まだ4話目だよね?普通くん+5
articulatesnail
the power scaling here just made me laugh, several times
パワーバランスがおかしすぎて何度も笑ったわ。感情くん+5
Lindbrum
Elfaria best assist with the "hand slip".
EDIT: Might be top 3 assists 2026 along with Methode clearing the way to Fern.
エルファリアの「手が滑った」アシストは最高だね。
追記:2026年のアシストTOP3に入るかもな。メトーデがフェルンへの道を開いたのと並んで。普通くん+5
Andante_TK
yea.. they going to the basement next episode.
やばっ!次回地下室行くんだって!楽しみすぎるんだけど笑ギャル+26
AriezKage
Second damn time this author did a "this was only a Prologue" and they were successful every time. (Wistoria's author also wrote Danmachi)
マジかよ!この作者また「ここまでプロローグでした」やったんか!しかも毎回成功してるとか強すぎるッ!(ウィストリアの作者=ダンまちの作者な)感情くん+11
d7h7n
Yes. The first season and these first four episodes of the second season were just laying down the ground work for the characters' relationships. Main conflict starts now as alluded by Finn.
They could've crammed the four episodes into season one but didn't want to sacrifice important details in the first season.
せやな。1期と2期の最初4話はキャラの関係性の下準備やったんやな。フィンが言うた通り本番はここからやろ。
4話分を1期に詰め込むこともできたけど、1期の重要ディテールを削りたくなかったんやな。ナイス判断やわ。2ちゃん+6
phoenix7240
no the implication is that will is the descendent of whoever that baby was
えっ、つまりウィルってその赤ちゃんの子孫ってことじゃん!?やばくね!?ギャル+7