AutoLovepon+840
朝議
龍門に仕えるべく、任用試験“登龍門”に挑む青輝と阿佐馬芳経。現れた龍門は、試験に合格するただ1つの条件を告げる。「私の膝を地面に着地させることができる者。以上。」武と知略が交錯する試練が、今始まる。
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Namaryu
To have a show that can engage viewers so much with just a dialogue alone is something remarkable. The tension and suspense during Imperial Council was out of this world. Even in episode with barely any protag the cast and script shines through.
あの会議シーン、台詞だけで視聴者をここまで引き込めるのは驚異的だよな。帝国議会の緊迫感とサスペンスは別格だった。主人公がほとんど出番のない回でも、キャストと脚本の輝きが際立ってる。これは制作陣の意図的な演出だと思われる。台詞の一つ一つが伏線として機能してるのが本当に巧い。考察くん+174
EyeDeeAh_42
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>To have a show that can engage viewers so much with just a dialogue alone is something remarkable This kinda reminds me of Orb. There was an episode where two chracters talk about their different religious beliefs and ideologies, and 90% of the whole episode is spent on them talking inside a carriage-- none of it feels boring or out of place. Shows that can engage viewers with dialogue alone are something special.
確かに。『オーブ』の馬車の中での90%会話回を思い出すな。あれも宗教観の違いを語り合うだけなのに、退屈じゃなかった。会話だけで引き込める作品は特別だよ。ドライおじ+73
MonaganX
Both shows are heavy on dialogue, but I don't think they're particularly alike beyond that. Orb's much more slow and introspective, whereas this show is more focused on snappy dialogue and strategic moves. Which is a point in its favor because whenever the protagonist does get philosophical he sounds like a redditor.
確かに、両作品とも会話劇ではあるが、その本質は全く異なるのだ。『Orb』は静かな内省の旅路、対して本作は鋭い言葉と戦略の応酬。主人公が哲学めいたことを言い出す度、我が脳裏に浮かぶのは某掲示板の住人よ。中二病+37
mekerpan
\>> whenever the protagonist does get philosophical he sounds like a redditor. I feel that the creators realize this tendency on the part of the protagonist. ;-)
確かに主人公が哲学っぽいこと言い出すと急にredditの投稿みたいになるのはわかる笑 でも制作側もそれ自覚してるっぽいね。普通くん+5
mekerpan
For some reason, I have really liked this series from the start, whereas I found Orb pretty annoying and dropped it early on.
確かにw 俺は最初からこのシリーズ好きだったわ。オーブはなんかムカついて序盤で切った笑wwwおじ+8
EyeDeeAh_42
That's fair. From what I've seen, Orb is pretty polarising. Some people rated it very highly, while some others didn't vibe with it at all. It's certainly not for everyone.
確かに、それは一理あるでござるな。某が見た限りでも『Orb』は賛否両論の作品であり申した。絶賛する者もいれば、まったく合わぬ者もおる。万人向けではないのは間違いない。武士+12
justsyr
The episode felt so short! I was eagerly waiting to see how both will pass the test and then suddenly it was already ending. Such great show, the script, the voice actors, everything is so good. I'm a big fan of shows based on Japan's history like Ao no miburo (to name a recent one, I've watched many) with many cast members all probably equally important, this one is so very well done.
確かに、我が魂を揺さぶる一瞬の如く、あの回は瞬く間に終わりを告げたのだ。試練の行方を見届けようと待ち焦がれていたというのに、時は容赦なく過ぎ去る。 脚本、声優陣、全てが至高の調和を奏でている。日本史を基にした作品の中でも、『青のミブロ』などと並び、この作品は格別の輝きを放つ。多くの者たちが等しく重要な役割を担う中、ここまでの完成度はまさに奇跡と呼ぶにふさわしい。中二病+37
Namaryu
I'd recommend Heike Monogatari which is also a spin on a famous tale. Beautiful adaptation at that!
確かに!あっという間だったね。平家物語もおすすめだよ。有名な物語のスピンオフで、すごく美しいアニメ化だったんだ。普通くん+11
Sant268
\> To have a show that can engage viewers so much with just a dialogue alone is something remarkable. i suggest Monogatari series(of course), Shoshimin (brilliant dialogue scenes here too), Yatagarasu (fantasy-medieval setting political drama)
せやな、台詞だけでここまで引き込める作品はホンマにすごいわ - ワイも「物語シリーズ」推すわ(もちろん) - 「小市民」も会話シーンがめっちゃ光ってるンゴ - 「八咫烏」はファンタジー中世政治劇でこれまたアツい どれも会話劇好きなら外せへんで!2ちゃん+11
-greek_user_06-
Very interesting recommendation, I'll make sure to check them out. Monster could fall in this category of anime with remarkable dialogues.
ふむ、その推し、実に興味深いでござるな。某、必ずや確認致す。『Monster』もまた、見事な台詞回しで観る者を魅了する作品にござろう。武士+5
bushwarblerssong
原文
That Taira family photo... When Aoteru gave Tsune-chan a thumbs up, Tsune-chan actually said "How is he able to give me **a 'like'**?!" So social media lingo has survived into this post-apocalyptic world. The text when Tsune-chan is scoffing at the other candidates is, 阿保 (aho - idiot), 惚ヶ茄子 (bokenasu - dimwit), and 莫迦 (baka - stupid), but those are not the characters typically used to write those words and they almost look archaic. When Tsune-chan spoke of foreign words that people used to use to "gain respect" in episode 2, the words on the screen in his mind were えビ田す (ebidasu)、好きーム (suki-mu)、阿じェんダ (ajenda). It's funny because the words mix three different character systems (kanji, hiragana and katakana) and look a bit archaic, and the first is mispronounced. They should actually be エビデンス (ebidensu or evidence), スキーム (scheme), and アジェンダ (agenda). These are English buzz words that some people unnecessarily use to sound smart, especially in their graduation thesis or in corporate settings in Japan. Imagine having a discussion about business in English and instead of saying "evidence," suddenly using the German equivalent to sound cool. (This is also discussed in War of the Adults.)
平家の集合写真、深いな… 青照がツネちゃんにグッジョブサインを送った時、ツネちゃんが「なんで**『いいね』**ができるんだよ」って言ってたんだよな。つまり、ソーシャルメディア用語がこの終末世界でも生き残ってるって考察ができる。 ツネちゃんが他の候補者を嘲笑う時のテキストは「阿保」「惚ヶ茄子」「莫迦」だけど、通常の表記とは異なり、古風な字体になってるのが興味深い。 第2話でツネちゃんが「昔の人が尊敬を得るために使ってた外国語」について語るシーン、画面に表示されてた言葉は「えビ田す」「好きーム」「阿じェんダ」。漢字・ひらがな・カタカナが混ざって古風に見えるし、最初のは発音も間違ってる。正しくは「エビデンス」「スキーム」「アジェンダ」だ。これらは日本で卒論やビジネスシーンで無理に使われるカタカナ英語の典型例。英語で「evidence」と言えばいいのに、ドイツ語を使うようなものだ(このテーマは『大人の戦争』でも扱われてる)。考察くん+162
bushwarblerssong
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**Some other things to note:** I think the timeline in the ED (which is difficult to read due to the snow) will be added to the anime's website, but if you don't feel like waiting, check the source corner. Also, see the source corner for the organizational chart of the Yamato government seen in last episode. In our first discussion and general daily or weekly anime discussions, some felt the narration implied that foreign refugees were responsible for the collapse of Japanese civilization and worried that the series would take a nationalist tone. The ED (and this episode with a weak "emperor") confirms that this isn't the case. What it does say in the timeline is that the presence of refugees led to an increase in xenophobia and xenophobic riots in Year 2055. The series was created during COVID when there were many cases of East and Southeast Asian people being blamed for the virus and physically attacked across the world. There were also some xenophobia sentiment toward foreign residents in Japan during the lockdown when the borders were closed to non-residents. Tatsuya Kitani released a music video of "Hidane" with his lyrics in several languages, including English. I think the same may happen with Leina's "Chikai." Both are about Aoteru and Saki. Last episode, when Yoshihiro Taira was lamenting about the situation with Buō and having terrible luck, a tea stem was floating vertically in his cup. That's a sign of a good luck ("chabashira ga tatsu") and sure enough, the ingrate was saved by "baldy." **Some Japanese fans check episode reactions on Reddit and really wanted foreign viewers to be aware of a Kansai joke made between Tsune-chan and the knife-wielding man, so I'll try to explain it.** There is a famous skit that everyone loves to copy by Yoshimoto talent agency's comedians. When you step into someone's home or an office in Japan, you always say "Excuse me for disturbing you" (邪魔するで~ in Kansai dialect) to be polite. In the comedic skit, after someone says "Excuse me for disturbing you," the person they are speaking to says, "If you're going to disturb me, go home" (邪魔するんやったら帰ってや~). Then the first person replies, "OK!" (あいよ~) and pretends to go home. (I know I did a terrible job of explaining and I swear it makes more sense if you just watch this clip where they made the same joke in Dandadan, except they didn't use Kansai dialect.) The knife-wielding man and Tsune-chan had that exact exchange save for the “OK” in the show. Speaking of Yoshimoto comedians, Girly Record cosplayed Tsune-chan (and looks like “an ugly pilot”) while singing Kitani’s Hidane, and re-enacted that scene. This was the creator’s response, which don’t need to know Japanese to understand. **The** **official anime website added a glossary** **a couple of days ago.** The information it contains are not considered spoilers. I'll add an English version to the bottom of this comment or in a separate comment later. (ETA: I replied to this comment with a translation of the glossary, but had some trouble with the formatting.) But, although Tsune-chan-san has described himself as the heir apparent of the Asama clan and adores his mother so much that he's working on her biography (this was shared in one of the official anime’s tweets this week), **his mother favors his sister Aika, and intends to make her the clan successor.** It's not clear if Tsune-chan is aware of this when he's boasting about his lineage to Aoteru. The historical Yoshitsune was betrayed by his older brother (Minamoto no Yoritomo) and forced to end his own life, but he was also the youngest of his family and not interested in being number 1 unlike Tsune-chan. And I think they might have made a mistake in Tsune-chan's brother's name. I think they actually meant to write 昂経 (Takatsune) instead of 昇経 (Noritsune/Shōkyō).
いくつか気づいたこと: - EDのタイムライン(雪で見づらい)はアニメサイトに追加されると思うけど、待てない人は原作コーナーをチェックしてみて。前回出てきたヤマト政府の組織図も原作コーナーにあるよ。 - 最初の議論で「難民が日本文明崩壊の原因で、ナショナリスティックな展開になるのでは」と心配する声があったけど、EDと今回の弱い「天皇」でそれは否定されたね。タイムラインでは2055年に難民の存在が外国人嫌悪と暴動を引き起こしたとある。この作品は、世界中で東南アジア系がウイルスのせいにされて襲われたCOVID時代に作られたんだ。ロックダウン中、日本でも外国人住民への排外感情があったし。 - Kitani Tatsuyaの「Hidane」MVは多言語字幕付きで公開された。Leinaの「Chikai」も同じかも。両方ともAoteruとSakiの歌だよ。 - 前回、Tairaが不運を嘆いてた時、茶柱が立ってたんだよね。まさかの「ハゲ」に救われるとは。 **関西弁ジョークの解説:** 日本では誰かの家やオフィスに入る時「邪魔するで〜」と言うのが礼儀。有名な吉本のコントで、それに対して「邪魔するんやったら帰ってや〜」と返し、「あいよ〜」と帰るふりをするんだ。Dandadanでも同じネタがあったよ(関西弁じゃなかったけど)。今回の刃物男とツネちゃんも同じやりとりしてた。 **公式サイトに用語集追加。**普通くん+79
moichispa
Tell the Japanese fans that I'm grateful about the explanation. I usually understand some references but I was very confused about this one.
それな!日本のファンに感謝って伝えてほしい~。普段はなんとなくわかるんだけど、今回のはマジで混乱したんだよね笑 解説マジ助かるわ!ギャル+36
bushwarblerssong
原文
(Having a little trouble with the line spacing, sorry) # Glossary **【Yamato】** One of three nations fighting for supremacy in near-future Japan where civilization has collapsed following a revolution sparked by nuclear war, natural disaster and misrule. 【Capital】Osaka 【Supreme Ruler】Yamato Emperor 【Form of government】Monarchy 【Agricultural Industry】Crop Farming・Livestock Farming 【Registered Population】About 4.6 million people (360,000 soldiers ・60,000 officials) **【Seii】** One of three nations fighting for supremacy in near-future Japan where civilization has collapsed following a revolution sparked by nuclear war, natural disaster and misrule. 【Capital】Seirō (Former Niigata) 【Supreme Ruler】President 【Form of Government】Republic 【Agricultural Industry】Hunting・Ranching・Crop Farming 【Registered population】About 1.94 million people (180,000 soldiers・60,000 officials) **【 Buō 】** One of three nations fighting for supremacy in near-future Japan where civilization has collapsed following a revolution sparked by nuclear war, natural disaster and misrule. 【Capital】Odawara (Former Kanagawa) 【Supreme Ruler】Buō Emperor 【Form of Government】Monarchy 【Agricultural Industry】Crop Farming・Livestock Farming 【Registered Population】About 3.17 million people (200,000 soldiers・40,000 officials) **【 Taira 】** A powerful clan predating the founding of Yamato, the ancestor of the Taira was one of the warlords during the late-Japan Period to the late-Sengoku period. He was later appointed lord of the Taira ward in former Osaka, and took the surname, “Taira.” The clan head is Denki Taira. When Denki's younger sister became empress to Fuji the Second, he was appointed Lord of Home Affairs. After taking office, Denki poisoned Fuji the Second. He installed Fuji the Third to the throne, made his own daughter empress, and seized full control of the government **【Tōryūmon】** To pass the recruitment exam for personnel of the Yamato Borderland General Corps and secure a government post. The exam is held in the capital ・Osaka, at the residence of Ryūmon Mitsuhide. It is rumored that over a thousand come everyday hoping to enter government service. **【Asama Clan】** A noble clan that distinguished itself during the wars against the Chugoku・Shikoku Confederation and Kyushu Confederation, and became a central figure in the founding of Yamato, which it has supported since its inception. The clan head is Kyōka Asama, the mother of Yoshitsune. Kyōka has three children: Yoshitsune, Takatsune (or Kōkyō or Kōkei)*, and Aika (or Manaka). There is movement to establish her most favored child, her eldest daughter Aika, as her successor. *The anime site has incorrectly listed Tsune-chan's brother as 昇経 (Noritsune or Shōkyō). **【Battle of Nagashino】** The war between the Yamato army and Buō army at Nagashino in the Spring of 57 of the Yamato era. While the Lord of Home Affairs, Denki Taira, was touring the country on behalf of the emperor, Fuji the Third, the Buō army took advantage of his absence and broke through Yamato's first checkpoint, Shimo-Yoshida, and invaded Aichi. Forced into a disadvantageous position, the Yamato army prepared to fend off the Buō army's pursuit at Nagashino, their second checkpoint. The Buō army took up position on the Shin-Tōmei Expressway. Under command of Ryūmon Mitsuhide, a force of just 20 Yamato soldiers climbed the 45 meter-tall bridge pier and brought the battle to an abrupt end with the success of their surprise attack on the enemy's main camp. 【Yamato Army】Commander-in-Chief Ryūmon Mitsuhide (Defensive) Total Forces 8,000 【Buō Army】Commander-in-Chief Hiromasa Shimada (Offensive) Total Forces 27,000
EDのタイムライン(雪で読みづらい部分がある)は今後追加されるんだろうな。この用語集を見ると、各勢力の人口や兵力のバランスがしっかり設定されているのがわかる。特に大和の登録人口460万人に対し、兵士36万人・官僚6万人という構成は、官僚機構が発達した君主制国家という考察ができる。一方、征夷は人口194万人で兵士18万人と割合が高い。これは共和国という統治形態を反映して、より軍事的な国家運営をしている可能性が示唆される。 平家の記述は興味深い。伝貴が不二二世を毒殺し、娘を皇后にして実権を握る流れは、まさに歴史的な平家の栄華と没落を彷彿とさせる伏線だ。浅間家の記述で、吉野の母親が京香で、長女・愛花を後継者にしようとしている点は、今後の勢力図に影響を与えそうだ。 長篠の戦いの詳細も見逃せない。27,000の武応軍に対し、8,000の大和軍が勝利したのは、龍門光秀の奇襲戦術あってこそ。45メートルの橋脚を登るという非現実的な作戦が成功した理由を、この世界の身体能力や技術水準と関連付けて考察する必要があるな。考察くん+26
varath224199
I haven't been this hyped for a tv show since watching orb. The people were right in recommending this show.
確かに、オーブ以来の衝撃だわ。このアニメを勧めてくれた人たちは正しかったね。普通くん+16
yawnman240
Thank you for sharing all of this! Very interesting. The glossary is definitely going to help me out on some aspects.
ああ、共有してくれてありがとう。結構参考になるな。用語集は確かにいくつかの部分で助けになりそうだ。ドライおじ+15
GrimMind
Thanks, Japanese people who want me to learn!
ありがとう!日本の人たち、俺に学ばせようとしてくれてるのか…!それも込みでエモすぎるッ!感情くん+14
Chrono-Helix
I seem to remember some meme or stereotype about 意識高い人 being very fond of those buzzwords a few years ago. Is that something you’ve heard of?
確かにそれ聞いたことあるわ。意識高い系が「シナジー」「アウトプット」みたいなバズワード好きって、数年前にネットミームになってたよね。普通くん+10
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
Seeing Saki in her bridal dress during the Ed sequence's chorus still gets/haunts me 😭 Denki Taira is one calculating douchebag. Everything he did and said this episode were meant to invoke strong emotions amongst those who clearly didn't see eye to eye with his directives--basically smoking out all of his enemies from within in one fell swoop, while also allowing for the much younger and promising personnel (such as Tsune and Aoteru) to take up more active roles and positions in the regime. Yeah, Denki culled TF out of the entire Senate (for lack of a better term) of worthless bums under the pretense of being offended, yay✌️
EDのサビで花嫁姿のサキ見るとワイ涙腺崩壊するンゴ😭 デンキ・タイラ、マジで計算高いクソ野郎やな。 今週の言動全部、自分の方針に反発する連中の感情を煽るためのものやろ →一気に内部の敵を炙り出しつつ、ツネやアオテルみたいな若手有望株に実権移す算段やん。 つまりデンキは「侮辱された」って体で老害どもを粛清したってわけやな✌️2ちゃん+120
171194Joy6
>directives--basically smoking out all of his enemies from within in one fell swoop, while also allowing for the much younger and promising personnel (such as Tsune and Aoteru) Wait. Holy shit, I didn't realise that's what happened as well
あ、確かに。それってつまり内部の敵を一網打尽にしつつ、ツネやアオテルみたいな若手有望株を一気に昇進させるってことか。 待って、マジか。俺もそこまで気づいてなかったわ。普通くん+46
HarshTheDev
That must also be why Ryumon was overplaying the cowardly persona, to not come across as a threat.
それってつまり、リュウモンがわざとビビりキャラを演じてたってことじゃん!自分が脅威に見えないようにするためってわけね。まじで計算高すぎじゃない!?ギャル+72
saga999
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It could also be to win people over to his side when he inevitably go against Denki. After he bowed, people immediately started going against Denki. Then Denki did his thing. Basically Ryumon exposed that there is only one way to deal with Denki, that is to violently remove him. So he has just cause to kill Denki and clean house instead of being accused of becoming a tyrant himself trying to overthrow the government. Of course, if Denki back down after Ryumon bowed, Ryumon will gladly take the result being able to deal with it peacefully. But I highly doubt he believed it would work. So even though it's basically a charade, he has to show he tried to do things peacefully first and there is no other way.
確かにそれもあるかもね。結局、電機と対立する時に味方を増やす狙いもあったんだろう。土下座した後、すぐに人々が電機に反対し始めたし。電機は自分のやり方で押し通したけど、要は竜門は「電機に対処する唯一の方法は力ずくで排除すること」ってのを暴露したわけだ。だから、政府を倒そうとする暴君扱いされずに、正当な理由で電機を殺して粛清できるって算段。 もちろん、竜門が土下座した後に電機が引き下がれば、平和的に解決できて喜んで受け入れただろうけど、多分最初から上手くいくとは思ってなかっただろうな。結局は茶番だけど、まずは平和的にやろうとしたって証明する必要があったんだよね。普通くん+26
tripryder
I was surprised at his expression when it finally showed his face after Denki walked past. I expected him to look more enraged, but he just looked grim asf.
まじそれな!龍門がわざとビビりキャラ演じてたの、確かに敵としてマークされないためだったんだろうね。でもデンキが通り過ぎた後のあの表情、やばくなかった!?もっと激怒した顔かと思いきや、めっちゃシリアスな顔してて逆に怖かったんだけど笑ギャル+12
MannyOmega
I was wondering if that was why Tsune and Aoteru got promoed. That would some depth to Taira’s character, if he was killing them not *just* because he’s a despot but because he wants more capable, more bold allies. I think it’s a bit of a stretch atm tho
確かに、TsuneとAoteruがプロモートされた理由ってそれかもしれないね。Tairaがただの暴君ってわけじゃなくて、もっと有能で大胆な仲間が欲しくて殺してるって考えるとキャラに深みが出る。でも現時点ではちょっと考えすぎかなって気もする。普通くん+19
BosuW
Dictators typically resent having bold and capable subordinates so I really doubt that
それな!確かに独裁者って有能な部下を嫌がるイメージあるし、ツネとアオテルが昇進したのもその辺が関係してるのかもね笑ギャル+36
HarshTheDev
I don't think Denki is that kind of dictator though. He gave Aoteru a fair shot in Ep 1 and even spared him after looking at the conviction in his eyes.
確かにデンキはそういうタイプの独裁者じゃないと思うよ。第1話でアオテルにちゃんとチャンスを与えてたし、その眼差しの覚悟を見て見逃してたしね。普通くん+17
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
It's not so much of a stretch when you consider his reasoning on just letting Aoteru go after he had his wife executed. He was so impressed by the composure Aoteru showed in the face of the situation, I'm certain had Aoteru even made an ounce of killing intent seep out (as it is very human/normal to want to avenge your loved ones), Denki could have easily had him killed where he stood and not given it another thought. I believe it's fair and you can very much question Denki's (power tripping) methods when it comes to governing, but you can't question his desire to make the **Yamato** the sole ruling nation in all of Japan. And If Ryumon is based on Akechi Mitsuhide, I think it's pretty logical to surmise that Denki is **Oda Nobunaga** in this tale (not to mention his surname being 'Taira')
せやな。妻処刑した後に青輝放った理由考えたら、あんま無理な話じゃないわ。あの状況で一切殺意漏らさへんかった青輝の度胸に感動してたんやろ。もし一ミリでも殺意滲ませてたら、デンキはその場で殺してたやろうな 統治方法に疑問持つのは分かるけど、**ヤマト**を日本唯一の支配国家にしたいって意志自体は否定できへんわ 龍門が明智光秀ベースなら、デンキは**織田信長**って解釈も筋通ってるやろ(名字が「平」なのも含めて)2ちゃん+13
Nemeczekes
Someone being against his abuse of power is not equal to being incompetent. But I agree that was good move to cut out any opposition
デンジ・タイラは計算高い男だね。権力乱用に反対する人=無能ってわけじゃないけど、反対派を排除したのは確かに良い手だったと思う。普通くん+7
Cook-Miserable
It's a real shame this show isn't being talked about more. It has a unique style, great framing, characters, music and dialogue that keeps you engaged. Taira is a complete snake and I live for the day he can finally get his comeuppance.
この作品があまり話題になっていないのは本当に惜しいな。独自のスタイル、優れたフレーミング、キャラクター、音楽、そして引き込まれるような台詞回し、全てが高い水準でまとまっている。 平は完全なヘビだな。彼がついに報いを受ける日を心待ちにしている。このキャラクターの描き方、物語における立ち位置の設計が非常に緻密で、視聴者の感情を巧みに操作している点は見事というほかない。考察くん+102
Chrono-Helix
Hideo Kojima praised it recently, so hopefully he convinced a few more people to check it out
確かに。小島秀夫も最近絶賛してたし、それで気になって見る人が増えるといいね。普通くん+60
BarTroll
Kojima’s recc was what made me check it out, and now here i am after binging 3 episodes. Great start, let’s hope it keeps it up
小島のオススメで見始めたンゴ ワイも3話イッキ見して今ここやでwww スタートはガチで良かったわ、このままキープしてくれや2ちゃん+23
Shadow_Ass
I saw his comment and it made me curious because people were praising the show. Watched all 3 episodes today, great so far.
小島さんのコメント見て気になってたんだよね。みんなが絶賛してたから今日3話全部観たけど、今のところめっちゃいい感じだね。普通くん+5
JWL2012
That's crazy because when I saw Ryumon my first comment was "Old Snake!"
それな!俺も竜門見た瞬間「オールド・スネーク!」って叫んじゃったもんw 小島監督が褒めてるってマジでエモすぎるッ!感情くん+5
Jerry_MP
Ryumon my GOAT. This old man is not one to mess around with. Shit is going to get intense between him and the fatso and I'm excited to see all the political drama that's to come. And now the ~~hot~~ lady from Seii is going to get involved and stir up some chaos. I wonder how the Buo will take advantage of all the chaos between Yamato and Seii. Banger episode as usual.
龍門マジでゴートやわ。このジジイはマジで舐めたらアカンやつや。デブとの対決がガチで熱くなりそうでワクワクしてるわ。これからの政治ドラマが楽しみすぎるンゴwww。んで、~~エロい~~西魏の姐さんも参戦してカオスに火をつけるんやろな。武都がヤマトと西魏のゴタゴタをどう利用するか気になるわ。 今回もクソ面白かったわ。毎週安定の神回やな。2ちゃん+80
mekerpan
Ryumon's VA is great -- I note he voices my beloved and oh-so-elegant Henderson-sensei (Spy xFamily) and will be voicing another amazing oldster this season -- Bonifatius in Bookworm.
確かに。竜門の声優、めっちゃ良いよね。Henderson先生(SPY×FAMILY)といい、今期のボニファティウス(本好きの下剋上)といい、渋い老人役ハマりすぎ。普通くん+14
MarshmallowPotion
Ryumon anticipates a dictator. She is going to be interesting. I'm looking forward to the fatass' downfall. Banzai 🙌
やばっ!竜門、独裁者になるの見越してた感じ?このキャラめっちゃ気になるじゃん! てかデブ野郎が墜ちるのマジ楽しみ~。ばんざーい🙌ギャル+79
bananeeek
> I'm looking forward to the fatass' downfall. Banzai I'm not so sure he's going anywhere this season. If anything, he'll take the emperor's seat. As Ryuumon said, history shows that at times like these, dictators raise to power and it's incredibly hard to topple them once they get cozy.
> デブの失墜楽しみにしてるわ。バンザイ🙌 まだ今期で退場するとは思えへんな。むしろ皇帝の座を奪い取るやろ。 龍門も言うてたけど、歴史的に見てこういう時こそ独裁者が台頭するもんやし、一度居座ったら倒すのめちゃくちゃ難しいンゴwww2ちゃん+53
MonaganX
On the other hand I don't think there's ever been a dictator that was able to maintain their rule after losing control of the military. With Taira's casual disregard for the military and with Ryumon being a legendary military leader opposing him, it's not too out of the question that could happen.
確かにその考察は興味深い。ただ、平氏が軍を軽視している描写と、竜門が伝説的な軍事指導者であることを踏まえると、軍の統制を失った独裁者がその地位を維持できた例は歴史上ほぼ存在しないという点を考慮すべきだ。つまり、今シーズン中に平氏の失脚が起こる可能性は十分に考えられる。制作陣の意図として、軍事的敗北が権力崩壊の引き金になる展開を想定していると見て間違いないだろう。考察くん+13
Creepy_Trip_4382
I'm an anime only but watching this episode i felt that they will not get rid off Taira easily, a civil war is coming
アニメしか見てないけど、今回のエピソード見て平家は簡単には倒せないって感じたよ。内戦が来そうだね。普通くん+16
tdm1378
he doesn't lose control of the military though. Ryumon only control the border's troop which is only about 1/4 of the total military
確かに!でも彼は軍の支配は失ってないじゃん?龍門が持ってるのは国境の部隊だけで、全体の1/4くらいだしね〜ギャル+13
RyouBestGirl
Our revolutionary Queen is here
我らの革命の女王が来たぞ普通くん+50
KnewOness
My Talented Dictator Can't Be So Cute
ワイの有能な独裁者様が可愛すぎるンゴwww 革命のクイーン降臨やんけ!草2ちゃん+49
Afandur
lol
「笑ったww 才能ある独裁者ちゃんが可愛すぎる問題」感情くん+6
szalhi
*Get a man who can look at you like this.* "Just watched a man fall to his knees at Toryumon." Aoteru passed with his Agricultural resume. *Who would have guessed?*
「こんな目で見つめてくれる男を捕まえろ」 「トウリュウモンで男が膝をつくのを見たわ」 青照が農業の履歴書で合格したんだ。*誰が予想できた?*普通くん+50
caiusto
The thing about Taira is that he's clearly a very intelligent and competent guy, and he does know what he's doing as opposed to just the usual "incompetent fat guy who has too much power", that makes him even more scary since no one can challenge his position. Edit: oh yeah, the direction and visuals continue to be incredible, so much style.
平(タイラ)ってさ、明らかにすげぇ頭いいし有能なんだよな。ただの「無能なデブが権力持ってるだけ」ってキャラとは違う。だからこそ逆に怖いンゴwww誰もあいつの立場に挑めねぇし。 ついでに言うと、演出と映像が相変わらずやべぇわ。スタイルありすぎやろ。2ちゃん+49
ObvsThrowaway5120
原文
Alright, I didn’t think Asama was gonna actually pull it off but the sword fake out was pretty good. Misumi didn’t need to do all that though. Bro came in with a game plan: agricultural policy reform, son! Bro didn’t need to kneel. He made Ryumon kneel for *him*. 3 years later, he’s already gotten his first promotion. Dude’s moving up the ranks. I see Taira isn’t even trying to pretend he’s not running shit already. The Emperor’s basically his pathetic little puppet. I wonder if this situation with Seii is gonna be the beginning of his downfall though? Ryumon warned them about the possibility of a talented dictator emerging…
浅間が本当にやり遂げるとは思わなかったけど、剣のフェイクは結構良かったな。 でもミスミはそこまでやる必要なかったと思う。奴はゲームプランを持って来たんだ:農業政策改革だよ!跪く必要なんてなかった。逆にリュウモンを跪かせたんだぜ。3年後にはもう最初の昇進を果たしてる。どんどん階級を上げてるな。 平家はもう自分が全てを仕切ってるのを隠そうともしてないな。天皇は哀れな操り人形みたいなもんだ。この征夷の問題が彼の没落の始まりになるのかな?リュウモンは有能な独裁者が現れる可能性について警告してたけど…普通くん+41
Se7en_Sinner
The emperor is a pitiful excuse for a ruler. Taira is basically the shogun with all the power and military might to back it up.
せやな、天皇って肩書きだけのクソザコやな。平家が実質的に将軍みたいなもんで、武力も権力も全部握ってるンゴwww2ちゃん+33
BosuW
I wonder if "Shōgun" would be an inexact comparison though given it seems like the Army is his main rival.
確かに、太宰は実質的な将軍だけど、陸軍が主なライバルって考えると「将軍」って比較は正確じゃないかもね。普通くん+9
PeaceAlien
Asama felt kind of important for story so I thought he'd pull of off
確かに!浅間は話の重要キャラっぽかったから成功すると思ってたよ。でも剣のフェイクはマジで良かったッ!感情くん+8
MannyOmega
My moral compass leaving my body when the dictator is sexy
まじでわかる!独裁者イケメンだと倫理観どこか行っちゃうんだよね笑ギャル+39
caiusto
For a moment I thought you were talking about Taira 😭
一瞬タイラの話かと思ったンゴ😭2ちゃん+29
andvirsenpai
haven't seen anything that reminds me of the political scenes and the dialogue in Kingdom as much as this anime. Like, it's really good, like, just the dialogue itself and the scenes. Yeah, really good.
確かに。このアニメほど『キングダム』の政治シーンや会話を思い出させる作品はなかったよ。台詞と場面そのものがめっちゃ良いんだよね。本当にクオリティ高い。普通くん+35
Christopho
Yep, definitely getting Kingdom vibes from this both from the whole uniting ~~China~~ Japan and our very own Lu Buwei/Ryofui.
せやな、完全にキングダムの空気感じるわ。中国統一(じゃなくて日本統一)の流れも、呂不韋/リョフイっぽいキャラも、政治シーンと会話の雰囲気がガチで似てるンゴwww2ちゃん+6
NanDemoKnaives
原文
It was cool to see how Aoteru and Yoshitsune were able to pass, the follow up by Yoshitsune even after losing his sword was great. Aoteru in particular presenting his policy reform was interesting, I like how Ryuumon was shocked by it and called Kaku over in a rush. The way Kaku was flipping through the pages was amusing, but Aoteru also monologuing the reform himself as he does made it even more amusing.  Taira has gotten really bold though, he's amassed that much power he doesn't need to worry about how he looks. The emperor is emperor only in name, and all those generals were cut down without any thought as to what they provide.
青輝と義経の連携プレーは見事だったな。特に義経が刀を失った後のフォローアップが素晴らしい。青輝が自らの政策改革を提示したシーンが興味深く、龍門がそれに衝撃を受けて慌てて華九を呼び寄せる流れが好きだ。華九が書類をパラパラめくってる仕草も面白かったが、青輝が自ら改革内容を独白する演出がさらに笑いを誘う。 平家は随分と図に乗ってきたな。あれだけの権力を掌握すれば、外聞を気にする必要もないというわけか。皇帝は名ばかりで、あの将軍たちも何の忖度もなく斬り捨てられた。彼らが持つ価値すら考慮されていない点を踏まえると、平家の支配体制の危うさが浮き彫りになるな。考察くん+30
LezRock
I also liked the short scene before the thumbs up reveal, where the guy told the other guy that his shoe lace was untied. It almost felt like the author showed that to speak to the readers/viewers who assumed that the solution was going to be or could be something that simple.
せやな、サムネ前の「靴ひもほどけてるぞ」ってシーンも良かったわ。読者が「こんな単純な解決方法やろ」って思ってるのを作者が逆手に取った感じやんな。草2ちゃん+16
Se7en_Sinner
Even though Aoteru doesn't know any combat techniques, I was somehow convinced he could have killed Denki Tiara outside of his delusion in the first episode. I guess this is where his true skill lies. Aoteru is able to make you believe he's capable of the impossible.
確かに青輝は戦闘技術を持ってないけど、第一話の妄想シーン外でもデンキティアラを倒せそうな気がしたんだよな。それが彼の本当のスキルなんだろうね。不可能を可能にしそうな雰囲気を出せるのがすごい。普通くん+28
thisisdropd
原文
Turned out Yoshitsune wasn't exactly all-brawn. That was a pretty clever strategy with the feint. Meanwhile, I had a hunch of Aoteru's strategy as soon as he produced his book. Just as effective, though even more unorthodox than Yoshitsune's. Expected Ryuumon to be a hardass leader but turned out to be a reasonable one – and also a softie despite his intimidating appearance. People thought he'd admonish Yoshitsune at best for his insolence, but he did say to achieve the task by any means. If it worked, it worked. He also strongly opposed violence and subjugation if a better option was available. He's got strong morals and also excellent leadership. Little wonder his division were fully loyal to him as well as sharing his values. That was an absolute power move by Denki. It started before he even appeared at the Council summit. Deliberately being late was him asserting his dominance. Damn, the emperor was heaps timid. He's pretty much a puppet at this point. Ryuumon and his corps were the final obstacle in his quest for ascendance so wonder what Denki would do to get rid of them.
義経は単なる脳筋じゃなかったんだな。フェイントを使ったあの戦略はなかなか賢い。一方、青輝の戦術は本を取り出した時点で予想がついたけど、義経以上に型破りでありながら同様に効果的だった。 竜門は厳格なリーダーかと思いきや、実は理性的で、威圧的な外見に反して実は甘いところもある人物だった。人々はせいぜい義経の無礼を叱る程度だと思っていたが、彼は「任務を達成する手段は問わない。結果が出ればそれでいい」と言い放った。より良い選択肢があるなら暴力や征服に強く反対する姿勢も見せた。強い倫理観と優れたリーダーシップを兼ね備えており、彼の部隊が完全に忠誠を誓い、同じ価値観を共有しているのも納得だ。 伝記のあの行動は完全なるパワームーブだった。評議会サミットに現れる前から始まっていた。わざと遅刻することで支配力を誇示したんだ。皇帝があまりに臆病で、現状ほぼ操り人形同然なのも納得。 竜門とその部隊が伝記の昇進における最後の障害だから、彼がどうやって排除するのか気になる。考察くん+22
ClosetMugger
>Ryuumon and his corps were the final obstacle in his quest for ascendance so wonder what Denki would do to get rid of them. perhaps he's invoking Seii's wrath for them to attack Yamato and let Ryuumon and the gang fight them and hopefully die in the battle
確かに。龍門一派が昇進の最終関門なら、デンキがどう排除するか気になるな。 たぶんセーイの怒りを利用してヤマトを攻撃させ、龍門たちを戦いに巻き込んで戦死させる作戦じゃないかな。普通くん+14
BosuW
Simply having the Army occupied with enemies at the border allows him to consolidate his power inside.
「それなッ!電機が国境で軍を敵と戦わせてる間に、内部で権力固めできるってわけか。頭いいけど陰湿すぎる…しんどい」感情くん+6
Chrono-Helix
I was actually surprised Yoshitsune gave a seemingly sincere apology before introducing himself to Ryumon. I thought he would be too arrogant to do so.
せやな、義経がまさか龍門に自己紹介する前に誠実っぽく謝るとは思わんかったわ。ワイはあいつ傲慢すぎてそんなことせんやろと思っとったンゴwww2ちゃん+5
Chrono-Helix
原文
Asama’s remark about people deciding whether they praise or criticize something based on what other people do first is so painfully true. I was expecting Aoteru to talk Ryumon into kneeling, but I think if you were actually one of the characters that failed the test, watching the way he pass would feel kind of bullshit. He came up with a proposal, but we can’t really understand why it’s a good idea, and having it explained and evaluated within the very short time limit is ridiculous. I do like how it goes back to his speech in episode 1 about needing to feed soldiers. And his willingness to provide the idea without being credited shows selflessness. Wasn’t expecting a timeskip immediately after the test. Usually we’d follow the characters going to boot camp or something. I imagine Aoteru and Asama would be posted to very different positions, based on the capabilities they showed. Damn why is everyone letting that fat asshole do as he pleases.
浅間が「人は他人の行動を見てから称賛か批判かを決める」って言ったの、めっちゃ痛いほどわかるわ。 青輝が竜門に土下座を勧める展開かと思ったけど、実際に試験落ちた側から見たら彼の合格の仕方はズルく感じるかもな。提案自体はしたけど、それがなぜ良いのかよくわからんし、制限時間内に説明して評価されるのは無理がある。ただ、第1話で兵士に食料が必要って話と繋がってるのは好きだし、無報酬でアイデアを出す自己犠牲精神は評価できる。 試験直後にタイムスキップ来るとは思わなかった。普通は新兵訓練とかやる流れだよな。青輝と浅間はそれぞれ示した能力で全然違うポジションに配属されそう。 つか、なんで皆あのデブ野郎の好き放題させてんだよ。普通くん+22
BosuW
原文
>Asama’s remark about people deciding whether they praise or criticize something based on what other people do first is so painfully true. And grimly paid off when in the later Imperial Audience a bunch of Army people got all fired up because one of them spoke thinking they could just demand the death of Denki like that and paid the price. >and having it explained and evaluated within the very short time limit is ridiculous. Fully evaluated of course not, but being able to summarize an complex plan or idea in a few succinct words is the sign of someone who is both highly analytical and very good at communication, so in that sense the strengths of Aoteru are clear.
> 浅間の「人は他人の行動を基準に称賛か批判を決める」という発言、痛いほど真実だよな。 後々の帝国謁見で、陸軍の連中が「電気を殺せ」と軽率に要求した一人の発言に乗せられて熱くなり、代償を払う展開が grimly(不気味に)回収されてる。 > それを極めて短い制限時間内に説明・評価させるのは馬鹿げてる 完全な評価はもちろん無理だが、複雑な計画やアイデアを簡潔にまとめられる能力は、高い分析力と優れたコミュニケーション力の証。その点で青輝の強みは明らかだな。考察くん+15
Mami-kouga
原文
>Damn why is everyone letting that fat asshole do as he pleases. Putting aside that even in our current reality we for some reason allow blatantly evil people to be presidents, I'd say it comes down to roughly a few things: 1. They waited too long and he managed to consolidate so much power that half the people (less after this episode) in charge defer to him 2. People are abiding to etiquette that he blatantly doesn't. Getting evidence of his wrong doings would save the day in another story but if there's no one with enough power to hold him to task it's worthless 3. At this point the only way to deal with him is just to assassinate him, but he's slippery as an eel, probably prepares for possible assassination attempts anyway with how much shit he does and if you fail, the chances of him getting back to are impressively high! That's just my guesses at least
あのデブ野郎を好き勝手させてるの、マジでなんでだよ。 現実でもなぜか明白な悪人が大統領になってるケースがあるけど、それは置いといて、理由はだいたいこんな感じだと思う: 1. 手遅れになるまで放置して、あいつが権力を固めちゃったせいで、上層部の半分(今回の話で減ったけど)が従ってる 2. 向こうが無視してるマナーにこっちだけ従ってる。証拠集めれば別の話では解決になるけど、動かせる権力者がいなきゃ意味ない 3. 今となっては暗殺するしかないけど、奴はウナギみたいにすり抜けるし、やりそうなことは警戒してるだろうし、失敗したら逆にやられる確率がめちゃ高い まあただの推測だけどね。普通くん+7
bananeeek
Ah. Un. Kill everyone within 5 seconds.
あっ。うん。5秒で全員殺すのか。無理すぎるッ!感情くん+17
Mountain-Edge6903
Okay, after this ep, we know one thing for certain: Ryumon is the GOAT.
このエピ見て確信したわ。リュウモンは間違いなく最高だね。普通くん+10
-greek_user_06-
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I feel like crying while I'm watching this anime because of how well- made it is. The animation is very refreshing to see, the artstyle and colour palette really enhance the tension of the story and the dark aspects of the anime. It was very remarkable to see that Asama and Aoteru used different tactics to achieve their goal. One relied on combat while the other utilized his strategic mind. Both qualities are necessary in politics so I'm looking forward to see how they'll work together as a duo. The puppet emperor reminded me of actual puppet politicians throughout history (and our modern world, too). It's clear that he's incompetent and that barely anyone takes him seriously and Taira is already taking advantage of this. He is a very cunning and clever antagonist, I'm looking forward to his downfall but at the same time, I can't help but feel kinds impressed at his authority and power.
このアニメ、クオリティの高さに思わず涙が出そうになる。作画の鮮やかさは本当に目新しく、アートスタイルと色彩設計が物語の緊張感やダークな要素を巧みに引き立てている。 浅間と青照が異なる戦術で目的を達成しようとした点は非常に注目に値する。一方は武力に頼り、もう一方は戦略的思考を駆使する。どちらも政治には不可欠な資質であり、この二人が今後どう連携していくのか楽しみだ。 傀儡の皇帝については、歴史上(そして現代世界でも)の実在する傀儡政治家を想起させる。彼が無能で誰からも真剣に受け止められていないのは明らかで、平家が既にその隙を突いている。平は非常に狡猾で聡明な敵役であり、その没落を待ち望む一方で、その権威と力には思わず感嘆せざるを得ない。考察くん+12
Shimmering-Sky
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I get to be on time for this show for once! - Aha, Tsune’s real plan was to get him off-balance and kick him from behind. Now what is Aoteru’s plan to also succeed here. - Huh… - Nice! - Oh it totally *was*. - *This* is the emperor…? - Awesome, Aoteru’s policy has been kicking butt! - Oof… - Hoh… – Good point, though. - Oh… - F - But he’s going to worm his way out of this anyways… - *Seriously* fuck this dude.
今回はちゃんとリアタイできたわ! - あっ、ツネの真の狙いはバランス崩して後ろから蹴りか。で、アオテルはどう成功させるんだろうな - ふーん… - いいね! - ああ、まさにそうだったわ - これが皇帝…? - すげえ、アオテルの政策めっちゃ効果出てるじゃん! - おっと… - ほー…でもそれは一理あるな - あ… - F - でもどうせこの状況も何とかして逃げ切るんだろうな… - 本当にこのクソ野郎マジでムカつく普通くん+9
slewch2
killing them did help our main characters get promoted
草、常の真の狙いはバランス崩して後ろから蹴りだったんかwww 殺したおかげで主人公連中が昇進できたってのは皮肉効きすぎやろw2ちゃん+6
AdellheidV
Of course he’s a puppet emperor. I can’t wait to see how Taira Denki falls. Our duo passed the test with flying colors. He made Ryumon kneel before him. Directing this series is truly appealing.
やばくね!?まじで彼って操り人形の皇帝じゃん!タイラ・デンキがどうやって倒れるのか楽しみすぎる!あのデュオがテストを余裕でクリアしたし、リュウモンを跪かせたのマジ神だわ。このシリーズの演出、めっちゃ魅力的じゃん!ギャル+9
2kenzhe
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Ok 3 year time skip. Both of our dudes passed and they've been doing great with Ryuumon. Yoshitsune Asama has the martial skill while Aoteru Misumi with the intellect and wisdom. He literally 1.7x'd their army in 3 years...I don't think they can lose with him ngl unless fatso decides to kill Ryuumon or something. That fatso Taira though basically rules everything now though he has all the power and all those guys that said anything offending him just all died. The emperor is powerless, literally just a puppet figure. So basically, the only one with even any chance of opposition is Ryuumon but now we got to deal with probably a talented dictator who'll probably take over Seii soon. Great episode hyped for the next.
3年のタイムスキップか。 両方のリーダーが死んだけど、竜門はしっかりやってるな。朝潮義実は武術の腕前、三隅昿照は知恵と知略で。彼が3年で軍を1.7倍に増やしたって…正直、彼がいる限り負ける気がしないけど、あのデブが竜門を殺そうとしない限りはね。 あのデブの平は実質すべてを支配してるし、権力も全部持ってて、彼に逆らうような発言をしたやつは全員死んだ。天皇は無力で、ただの操り人形だ。 つまり、唯一対抗できる可能性があるのは竜門だけだけど、今度は有能な独裁者と戦わなきゃいけなくて、多分すぐに征夷を乗っ取るだろうな。 いい回だった。次回が楽しみ。普通くん+8
AAA_BATT
why did i think Aoteru was in his mid twenties?
なんで俺アオテルを20代半ばだと思ってたんだろwwwwおじ+9
Hyouryuu-Na
He was 15 in episodes 1-2. 18 post timeskip
マジでそれな!1~2話で15歳で、時越え後18歳だよ!中堅どころに見えたのわかるけど、若すぎるッ!感情くん+6
171194Joy6
I actually laughed out loud with Tsune's antics. But he succeeded so there's that. And Mitsumi pretty much passed the way I expected him to. Surprised by the 3 year time skip tho. Mannnn..., I can't wait for fatso to get beheaded. And like Ryumom warned, a dictator arose. Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
ツネのドタバタには笑ったわ。でも成功したから良かったね。ミツミも思った通りに合格したし。 3年のタイムスキップにはびっくりしたけど。 マジでデブが首切られるの待ちきれない。 リュモンが警告した通り、独裁者が現れたな。これからどうなるか楽しみ。普通くん+6
KazuharaIlfan
Yeah this is problematic. A weak-willed, pushover emperor and the real tyrant ruler abusing his position as the in-law. Even if proven wrong, Taira can just push the problems to Ryumon disguised as emperor's order. Wonder how Aoteru gonna spin this to his advantage. Also, this fatso double peace really pissed me off so his humiliation gonna be hilarious.
せやな、これはヤバいわ。弱腰のカス皇帝と、その権力かさに着た暴君の外戚コンボやん。証拠出しても平家が「皇帝の命令や」って竜門に責任押し付けて終わりやろ。青輝がどうやってこれを逆手に取るか気になるわ。ついでにあのデブの二重平和にはガチで腹立ったから、晒し者にされるのだけは楽しみやンゴwww2ちゃん+7
FictionSins
This show is going to make me drop it so quick if Taira is able to do whatever he wants whenever he wants without consequence in every single episode.
平が毎回好き勝手にやって何の代償もないなら、このアニメ即切りするわ。マジ無理すぎるッ!感情くん+7
Iron_Kingpin
Why doesn't Old Snake just assassinate Taira
老スネークが平家を暗殺しないのはなぜ?普通くん+6
Hyouryuu-Na
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Copy pasted from my comment at another site cause I'm lazy The emperor of Yamato is such a spineless wuss xD But I get it. He's a puppet king with no actual influence. Taira Denki could actually have him yeeted if he wanted to. It hurt to see someone so badass as Ryumon have to bow down to that fatass. Everyone has to play along with this maniac. It'd be hella satisfying to see him get hit by karma later in the series. I kinda wanted more newbie Tsune-Chan and Aoteru moments, rising from the bottom. The art in this anime is just so beautiful! You can clearly see the unique traits in everyone's faces. Aoteru actually looks more grown up after the timeskip. Tusne-Chan looks prettier xD Love Wajima's tiger tattoo. Very badass. I love Tsune-Chan's little inner moments xD He's such a dork. Back to waiting another week. It's painful TT
ワイ、他サイトで書いたコメントをコピペしただけやで許してや ・ヤマトの皇帝、ホンマにクソザコやなwww でも分かるわ。ただの操り人形やし、実際なんの力もないしな。平知希ならマジでぶっ飛ばせるで。龍門みたいな漢気ある奴があのデブに頭下げなあかんの見ててキツかったわ。全員あの狂人に合わせてるだけやん。後々天罰食らうとこ見たいンゴねぇ ・もっと新米のツネちゃんとアオテルの絡みが見たかったわ。下から這い上がってくやつ。このアニメの作画ガチで美しすぎやろ!みんなの顔の特徴がハッキリ出てて最高。アオテルは成長後めっちゃ大人っぽくなったな。ツネちゃんはより可愛くなったwww 和島の虎の刺青もカッコよすぎや。漢やで ・ツネちゃんの内面描写めっちゃ好きwww あいつほんまアホやな ・また1週間待つのか…辛すぎて草2ちゃん+5
gengen212
In defense of Yamato Emperor, that fatso poisoned the last emperor and its not even a secret, like what he gonna do?
ヤマト皇帝を擁護すると、あのデブが前皇帝を毒殺したのは公然の秘密みたいなもんだし、何ができるって話だよね。普通くん+7
Okuser
So fire
やばくね!?これマジでアツすぎるんだけど!!🔥ギャル+5
DonQuigleone
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I think you need to bear in mind that this show is clearly riffing on romance of the three kingdoms, and Denki Taira is this show's version of Dong Zhuo. In Chinese history it's EXTREMELY common for ambitious generals/officials/etc. to murder the previous emperor and put a relative in their place as a puppet (it happens multiple times in 3 kingdoms, and it continued to happen in China right up to the Qing Dynasty with Cixi). Japan with its system of shoguns did something similar. Given the state is called Yamato, I'm guessing the Emperor descends from the present imperial family (though it's unclear either way), and the imperial family has likely been used to lend legitimacy to a state ruled by a succession of warlords but is generally rotten at the core. To use the 3 kingdoms analogy, Yamato is the Han dynasty (or Wei dynasty with its later weaker emperors). This show is really more about Chinese history than Japanese history, and the protagonist name checked multiple Chinese philosophers in the first episode.
この作品は明らかに三国志を下敷きにしてて、デンキ・タイラは董卓ポジションなんだよね。中国史では野心的な将軍が前皇帝を殺して親族を傀儡に据えるのはめっちゃよくあるパターンだし(三国志でも何度も起きてるし、清朝まで続いてる)、日本の将軍制度も似たようなもんだよ。 国家名がヤマトってことは、天皇は現皇室の子孫だろうけど、実質的には軍閥による支配を正当化するための象徴で、中身は腐ってる感じかな。三国志で言えば、ヤマトは漢(あるいは後期の魏)みたいな立ち位置。 この作品は実は日本史より中国史寄りで、主人公が初回で複数の中国哲学者の名前を出してたしね。普通くん+5
pi8you
Amazon
「Amazon!?なんでそこでAmazonが出てくんの!?無理すぎるwww」感情くん+8