とんがり帽子のアトリエ

銀色の約束

2026.6.1 r/WitchHatAtelier

ImoutoCompAlex
銀色の約束
体調を崩したココを病院に運ぶキーフリーとタータ。タータはキーフリーの言動に疑念を抱き問い詰めるが、けむに巻かれる。そんななか、ココが「知らざる者」でありながらキーフリーの弟子になったことを知り...。
エピソードサムネイル
原文
Witch Hat Atelier Episode 10 Discussion Thread Season 1 Episode 10 Aired : 1st June, 2026 Join the Discord server for regular updates and more discussion on the series Streams Crunchyroll Also available on other streaming services like Netflix (in Japan) depending on your region. Show information MyAnimeList Official Website Please follow the rules of the subreddit. Keep your comments spoiler-safe: If you want to discuss spoilers, use the subreddit discord server
とんがり帽子のアトリエ 第10話討論の間なのだ。2026年6月1日放送。配信はCrunchyroll等。ネタバレは封印し、Discordで語れ。中二病
thefat94
The only reason Monday is tolerable
月曜が耐えられる唯一の理由だね普通くん
MAQMASTER
Koko is the best... I actually want a masshup with koko anya and freriren. They are literally born for each other
Koko最高…てかKokoとanyaとfrerirenのマッシュアップまじ見たい!あの3人、ガチで相性良すぎじゃん!ギャル
vicoheart
原文
The fact that Coco has done more for Tartah in 5 minutes than witch society has done for him his whole life is quite something… 🤦🏽‍♀️ This poor kid Great episode, though. I loved seeing the world through Tartah’s eyes, and mannn, this kid is smart! I have a whole new appreciation for him after seeing this play out. He’s so perceptive, has great deduction and reasoning skills, and he’s the closest to realizing that something is off about Qifrey. He’s definitely someone who shouldn’t be underestimated at all, and I think he’ll be a formidable witch despite what others have told him throughout his life.
Cocoが5分でTartahにしたことが、魔法使い社会の一生分以上って…不憫すぎる。でも神回。Tartah視点よかったし、頭も洞察力も抜群。Qifreyの違和感にも近いし、将来かなり強い魔法使いになりそう。普通くん
Mental-Wheel986
The fact that Coco has done more for Tartah in 5 minutes than witch society has done for him his whole life Its kind of relatable though, if you grew up in a family that doesn't believe in medicine/neurodivergence/etc. then meeting one person who says "dude get some Adderall" can lead to a situation like "IT TOOK ME 20 YEARS TO LEARN ABOUT ADDERALL?!?!"
Coco、5分で魔法使い社会がTartahに一生してこなかった事してて草。「Adderall知るのに20年かかったんか!?」感あるやろ2ちゃん
crustlebus
Well now that you describe it like that, it's a little TOO relatable
そう言われると、ちょっと共感できすぎるな普通くん
Few_Addition_4751
The witch world is abelist and Coco, being an outsider, is able to perceive those who are marginalised by witch society. Coco is also a pure soul.
魔法使い社会、ガチで障害者差別的やな。外部者のCocoだからこそ、はみ出した人らに気づける。しかも魂が純粋すぎる。2ちゃん
AvgBlue
All people are perceptive in different ways, and Tartah is an example of how sensory impairment affects your perception and the level of detail you remember from the input you have.
人は皆、異なる感覚の天啓で世界を読む。Tartahは、感覚の欠損が認識と記憶の細部をどう変えるかを示す存在なのだ。中二病
Prof_Acorn
So fitting that Tartah has his hat off during these scenes since everything he was doing was forbidden.
Tartahがこのシーンで帽子を外してるの、ぴったりだね。やってること全部禁じられてたし。普通くん
Prof_Acorn
Also good foreshadowing.
伏線の張り方も悪くないな。ドライおじ
JonathanAltd
Spoilers really hit hard
ネタバレ、マジできついな普通くん
Chaos_Demoness
Wait, how was it forbidden?
え、どういう意味で禁じられてたの!?感情くん
Wyndegarde
Witches can't do anything with medicine. It's why the doctors aren't based on the magic island
魔法使いは医療には手出しできないんだよw だから医者は魔法の島を拠点にしてないわけ笑wwwおじ
hope_flakes
Knowing that Tranquileaf is good for pain/fevers wouldn't get him in trouble. We saw Qifrey eat some himself last episode, so basic herbal knowledge isn't forbidden.
Tranquileafが痛みや熱に効くって知ってるだけじゃ怒られないっしょ。前回Qifreyも食べてたし、基本の薬草知識は禁止じゃないじゃん!ギャル
Guilloz
We also saw Qifrey not sharing info with the magic police and deleting memories for his own gain, I don't think Qifrey is the standard of what's forbidden
Qifreyが魔法警察に情報渡さず、私利私欲で記憶消してたのも見たし…禁忌の基準がQifreyは無理すぎる。感情くん
hope_flakes
That's fair. Tartah also knows that it's good for fevers though, and he's still allowed to work in the stationers shop around magic tools, pens, and dyes, and he knows how magic is cast/the mechanics of it being cast (he MAKES pens ffs). So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the knowledge isn't forbidden.
それはそう。けどTartahも熱に効くって知ってるし、魔法道具やペンの店で働いてる。魔法の仕組みも知ってるし、その知識は禁止じゃないと思う。普通くん
thelightlovekindled
Well and, basic first aid is OK as we saw in the river episode. I think the part Tartah got borderline was when he went to the storeroom to get the components and not the brewed medicine -- that's more than just administering a dose, and like the healer said, it requires some level of knowledge to administer in the right amount. It's that latter knowledge I think that would cross the line.
川の回みたいな応急処置はOKやろ。Tartahが怪しかったのは薬じゃなく材料取りに行った点。量の知識いるし、そこがアウト寄りやな。2ちゃん
Wama-Schawama
Which begs the question if the nurse at the end asked Tartah why he was trying to use medicine if he's a witch apprentice
となると最後の看護師、Tartahに「魔法使いの弟子なのに何で薬を使おうとしたの?」って聞いたのかな。普通くん
Prof_Acorn
Dispensing medicine is practicing medicine is practicing healingcraft, which is forbidden for witches. It's why the nurse acted weird after seeing his hat after asking if he was interested in medicine.
薬の調合は医療行為で、つまり治癒魔法の実践。魔法使いには禁忌だから、看護師は帽子を見て変な反応をしたんだと思われる。考察くん
Aperturelemon
I thought It was casting healing spells on people that was forbidden.
人に回復魔法かけるのが禁止なんだと思ってたんだけど〜!ギャル
Mrfish31
原文
It is. but there's a bit more. Spoilers: Kind of as part of the pact, witches are not allowed to learn medicine or any kind of healing techniques beyond maybe basic painkillers, even though they are physically capable of doing so. It is kept separate basically so the non-witches still have something that is exclusive to them. Like, Coco had a fever. Anyone with even basic medical knowledge can fix that. But Quifrey doesn't know, because he is not allowed to know.
そうだね。でも少し補足。ネタバレ:契約で魔法使いは簡単な鎮痛以外の医療・治療を学べない。Cocoの熱もQuifreyは禁じられてて分からない。普通くん
Routine_Owl57
i think its casting on people
人に魔法かけてるんだと思うじゃん!ギャル
Character_Drive6141
Do the nurses know that's part of the pact? I thought the pact was in general protected knowledge. They just tell people "magic can't heal" and leave it at that
えっ看護師たち、それが契約の一部って知ってるの?契約って秘匿情報だと思ってた…「魔法じゃ治せない」で済ませるのかと。感情くん
Corarium
原文
I adored seeing Tartah’s perspective on the world, absolutely incredible adaptation on Bug Films’s part. The flair they add to the critical parts of the series and the minor details in every frame between make the minor cuts well worth it. Knowing that they’re gonna end the season in the middle of the next arc is driving me nuts though. I want them to have all the time they need to ensure that season 2 matches or exceeds this season’s quality, but the wait is gonna be killer
Tartah視点の世界、最高やった。Bug Filmsのアニメ化ガチ神。多少のカットも許せるわ。次章途中で終わるの気狂いそう。2期待つの地獄や…2ちゃん
Last_Supermarket_451
It’s a really evil ending isn’t it? However I do think it’s a good ending for anime only watchers because it lands them on some of the darker aspects of the show. But if it take the same amount of time to make the second season I’ll be sad. I want to see Beldaruit and his version of the second test as well as jujy
かなり意地悪な終わり方だよね。ただアニメ勢に闇の側面を印象づける締めとしては良い。2期待ちが長いなら悲しい。Beldaruitの第二試験とjujyも見たい。考察くん
Last_Supermarket_451
“Witches are so amazing!” Coco you’re about to get shot 57 times
「魔法使いってほんとすごい!」Coco、あんた今から57発撃たれそうなんだけど笑ギャル
Terrifying_Illusion
Yeah, just look at Iguin and Sasaran's floating cloak puppet at the end there
そうだな、最後のIguinとSasaranの浮いてるマント人形を見れば分かるだろ。ドライおじ
somebasicaccountname
Whole episode had 2 still images of the brush buddy... 2/10. Outside of that it was so good to see this episode animated, getting the silver wash seen in his eyes really was done so well. The guard hiding at the end was funny. And I like the dub voice for the floating hat, sounds like he'd be in sweeny todd
筆の相棒の静止画2枚だけで草、2/10。そこ以外は最高やった。目の銀の表現ガチ良い。最後の衛兵隠れるの草。浮く帽子の吹替もsweeny todd感あって好き。2ちゃん
Terrifying_Illusion
Animation team couldn't sneak in their beloved brushbuddy when he's back at the atelier and this episode is meant to stay in Kalhn. Truly a sad day, but he'll be back in full force next week, I'm sure.
今回Kalhnの話だから、アトリエに戻ってる最愛のbrushbuddyを仕込めなかったの悲しい。来週は全開で戻るはず。普通くん
Acceptable-Fudge9000
There will be a huge brushbuddy!
巨大なbrushbuddyが来るぞッ!楽しみすぎる!感情くん
StarAboveWillows
God, this got me just as good as the manga did back when I first read it. Wonderfully emotional.
ああ、初めて漫画で読んだ時と同じくらい刺さった。めちゃくちゃ感情揺さぶられる。普通くん
Beginning-Hope-2600
原文
Today's episode adapted chapters 16 and 17—not much in the way of major changes, but a LOT of additions. [Chapter Changes + Differences] The moment where Coco calls out to her mother in her nightmare when Tartah returns was cut, as was her line describing magic like a blank slate, which is disappointing as it's such a great small moment. Tartah calling her amazing at the end was partially cut, but nothing major there. In return though, we got a TON of additional new content from Tartah's perspective showing us how he sees the world and the challenges it has presented for him, which was great to see. These two chapters are some of my personal favorites, and this was excellently adapted, even if I was disappointed that they truncated Coco's description of how she views magic. The added Tartah moments were incredible and I like the shift to really making this mini arc his rather than Coco's. The music this episode was also some of the best of the entire series, punctuating the relative quiet of these two chapters nicely and driving the emotions home. I had incredibly high expectations going in, but they were soundly met, if even exceeded. Another great episode, and excited for this final stretch (if a bit sad too).
今回は16〜17話を改変。大筋は変えず追加多めという構成だと分析できる。 ・悪夢でココが母を呼ぶ場面、魔法を白紙に例える台詞のカットは残念(良い小ネタなのに) ・代わりにタルタの視点で世界の見え方や困難を描く新規描写が大量に追加、これが素晴らしい ・このミニアークをココではなくタルタの物語にシフトさせた意図が読める ・今回の音楽はシリーズ屈指、静かな2話の感情を見事に引き立てていた 期待を超える出来。最終盤が楽しみ、少し寂しくもあるが。考察くん
Last_Supermarket_451
I wonder if this is what they meant by shifting stuff around, less ordering of events but shifting the little things that happen to flesh out the world and the characters differently. At this point we only have three episodes left and Bugs films hasn’t changed the timeline at all.
これが「構成を入れ替える」って意味だったのかな。世界観やキャラを掘る小ネタの配置変更って感じ。残り3話だけどBugs filmsは時系列いじってないね。普通くん
Beginning-Hope-2600
原文
It doesn't really surprise me that they haven't shifted that much around. The series is already tightly written and plotted, trying to move different plot elements around just wasn't going to feasible without messing up the flow of the story substantially. Adding and fleshing things out for the better is feasible though, and I've really appreciated the slight touches that Bug Films has put on it all.
大きく構成を変えてないのは納得。原作は既に緻密で、動かすと流れが崩れる。一方で補強は有効で、Bug Filmsの細かな肉付けはかなり評価できる。考察くん
Prof_Acorn
It's just that they sent a message out that appealed to manga fans to have patience or whatever because of the changes and they noted Shirahama approved or oversaw all of them. But then we get here and it's like a few slice of life things and dialog were removed I guess for pacing? But that normal for adaptations. It's the message that's confusing at this point. Not sure why they sent it out.
変更あるから我慢して、全部Shirahama監修済みって言ってたやん。でも日常描写と台詞ちょい削っただけ?あの声明なんやったんや。2ちゃん
Beginning-Hope-2600
[next arc spoilers] I wonder if they're maybe going to move things around in the Serpentback cave? I don't 100% know how it'd work, but maybe they change things so the Romonon aren't introduced this season or something similar?
[次章ネタバレ] Serpentback cave周り、構成を入れ替える可能性あるのかな。今期はRomononを出さない形も考察できる。考察くん
uwu_mewtwo
When we get Qifrey's point of view as he checked on Coco the room took quite a while to come into focus because the sun was blindingly bright. A very nice little hint about his declining vision we didn't get in the manga.
Qifrey視点でCocoを確認する場面、日差しが眩しすぎて部屋にピント合うまで結構かかってたね。視力低下の示唆、漫画にはない良い演出。普通くん
CenlTheFennel
That’s because at this point we don’t know that yet, here it’s a foreshadow
だってこの時点じゃまだそれ知らないじゃん!ここは伏線なんだよね〜ギャル
alimirakim
Ahh yeah I was a bit sad about the small change with what Coco says when she wakes up. But I see the point that it's nice to focus on making it a bit more about Tartah!
ああ〜Cocoが起きた時のセリフ変更、ちょっと悲しかった…。でもTartahに焦点当てる意図はわかる、そこは良いッ!感情くん
Volfaer
原文
I did not expect a episode like this to be so enchanting, but fellas this was just lovely. Coco's mentality and ingenuity giving hope to a character was just so beautiful, and better yet because it was a solution that doesn't "fix" the issue, as it often is in magical worlds, since Tartah isn't "broken", he just has a condition that makes his life slightly harder. Also she herself got hope, I don't expect simply reversing the key runes will be enough, but definitely that is a earned first step to save her mother and many other victims of forbidden magic. Also, no wonder they call the brimmed caps "drip hats", that guy's fit was the only thing left of him, that is peerless dedication.
こんな回がここまで魅力的とは思わんかったわ。Cocoの発想でTartahに希望与えるの美しすぎ。治すんやなく支えるのがええ。drip hats草、服だけ残る執念よ2ちゃん
thelightlovekindled
原文
Maybe it's because I've been thinking more about him in recent days, but seeing this arc animated and really experiencing Tartah's frustration through his eyes made me tear up. I love the way the anime has used color (and the lack of) to convey the silverwash, I find it very effective. Less effective: that healer putting a heavy blanket on a patient with a fever. How shocking that Coco got worse once Qifrey wasn't there to cool down the room. Who ever would have expected it. I have to admit it was very funny seeing everyone's dire predictions last week and then getting "aggressively bubbly mode" Qifrey instead. ETA: apparently my bias as a former ED employee is showing. It was standard to not give febrile patients extra blankets (or blankets at all)! due to risks of complications. Looking at some of the research since then, this is now getting pushback as a practise, but there doesn't seem to be completely conclusive evidence either way. Blankets are confirmed harmful in certain situations, confirmed unharmful in others, and unconfirmed helpful (I did see one theory on this, but they didn't provide any evidence for it, only speculation). In any case, while it would be unsurprising to see someone with a low-grade fever bundled up, it was surprising to see someone with a fever high enough to be an emergency (with accompanying persistant loss of consciousness) treated the same way, which is what prompted the comment. But hey, I learned something new today too, so I guess it comes out to a solid opportunity to check my biases.
・Tartahの葛藤がアニメで描かれて、彼の目を通して感じて泣きそうになった ・銀水を色(と色の欠如)で表現してるの、すごく効果的で好き ・熱のある患者に厚い毛布はどうなんだ…Qifreyがいなくて部屋が冷えず悪化するの当然だよね ・先週みんな悲惨な展開を予想してたのに、逆にテンション爆上げQifreyが来たの笑った普通くん
NiennaTas
Fever: it has two stages, one is where the limbs are cold, that means it's rising and people might be really cold and in need of a thick blanket. The second stage is when all of the body is hot and then you can start cooling them down 😊
発熱には2段階あるという考察ができる。手足が冷たい時は上昇中で厚い毛布が必要。全身が熱くなってから冷やす段階😊考察くん
thelightlovekindled
原文
You feel cold because your body is so much warmer than the air around you, but the blanket is apparently quite controversial these days haha. When I was in hospital, the protocol was no blankets for patients with fever! It seems in recent years people have started publishing research that complicates this, but they're mostly just saying "unless the fever is x or the patient is y a blanket won't hurt" rather than pointing to any active benefit to providing one, and you can't always know "x or y" right off the bat, so I think it's probably still standard in many places. Fever may be beneficial within certain ranges, but there's a huge caveat to that since it can also cause seizures, neurological issues, and even permanent disability like hearing loss if it gets too high and stays there. Since Coco lost (and did not regain for a significant period of time) consciousness with her fever, it was wild to me seeing them put an extra-heavy blanket on her instead of leaving her with a standard one.
熱で意識失ったCocoに、普通の毛布じゃなく分厚い毛布を追加でかけてたのは正直びっくり。発熱時の毛布って今は賛否あるけどね。普通くん
PapaBeer642
Wasn't "sweating it out" a pretty common approach to treating fevers in the era in time WHA evokes? Might be annoying to a modern professional while being true to the setting.
WHAっぽい時代なら、熱は汗かいて治すの普通やなかった?現代の専門家にはモヤるけど、設定的には合ってるやろ。2ちゃん
thelightlovekindled
This is quite possible! I didn't intend it as a criticism of the work, just a bit of a "yikes!" moment for me that stood out.
それは全然ありえるね!作品への批判のつもりじゃなくて、自分の中でちょっと「うわっ」って目立った場面だっただけ。普通くん
PapaBeer642
Now I wonder how hard it is for medical professionals to watch old-timey medical dramas without getting real stressed out. 😅
医療従事者が昔風の医療ドラマを見て、ガチで胃を痛めずにいられるのか気になり申す😅武士
thelightlovekindled
Doesn't even have to be old-timey -- I have a nurse friend whose spouse won't watch typical medical dramas with them because they critique it too much 😂
別に昔の作品じゃなくてもあるよ。看護師の友達、医療ドラマにツッコミ入れすぎて配偶者が一緒に見てくれないらしい😂普通くん
NiennaTas
Haha, this is totally me with anything medieval related. My hobby is reenactment and oh boy, there aren't many well dressed medieval movies/shows, like ever.
笑、これ中世系なら完全にうちじゃん!趣味がリエナクトメントなんだけど、衣装ちゃんとしてる中世映画/ドラマってまじ全然ないんだよね〜ギャル
PapaBeer642
House, M.D.? More like Not-in-this-House, M.D., amiright?
House, M.D.?いやNot-in-this-House, M.D.って感じじゃね?普通くん
NiennaTas
Interesting. I'm just following what our pediatrician recommends, hence my comment that I don't see it as a flaw in their point of view.
ほーん。ワイは小児科医のおすすめに従ってるだけや。だから相手の見方が欠点とは思わんって言ったんや。2ちゃん
thelightlovekindled
That's fair -- the kind of fever you treat at home vs the kind of fever you go to the ED for are definitely not the same level of severity! I also will use blankets at home, I just keep an eye on if it's getting too high and I need to unbundle.
それはそう。家で見る熱と救急行く熱じゃ重さが全然違うもんね。自分も毛布は使うけど、高くなりすぎたら外すようにしてる。普通くん
BoomSaysTheLady
原文
I will preface by saying that I don't really ship anyone from the younger cast (the apprentices) but it was super cute seeing how much Tartah began developing a crush on Coco and how much emphasis Bugfilms put on Tartah being all blushy around Coco. Coco is an amazing girl, it's hard to not fall in love with her. Although I appreciate all these scenes, It makes me extra sad knowing that Tartah and Coco's friendship will be marred when Tartah forces Coco to divulge Qiffrey's secret and forces her to speak even when she doesn't want to using the burning bracelet device in the Silvereve arc
若手組は推してない前提だけど、TartahがCocoに惹かれ赤面する描写は尊い。Cocoなら惚れるのも納得。ただSilvereve編でQiffreyの秘密を吐かせる件を踏まえると、友情が傷つくのがつら考察くん
First-Shallot947
Ending of the episode also teased that agott may have similar feelings with the way she's turned while clutching jer arm like that. That's a popular trope to show shyness Coco collecting crushes like infinity stones
ラストのagottも、腕を抱えてそっぽ向いてたし同じ気持ちっぽいね。照れの定番演出。Coco、好意をインフィニティストーンみたいに集めてるじゃん普通くん
thelittleking
listen, our girl's got two hands
まあ聞け、うちの子は手が2本あるんだぞwwwwおじ
Character_Drive6141
I ship them as childhood crushes. It's pretty clear during the beginning of the above arc you mentioned that they were fond of each other. I'm with Olreggio on that (they even got matching bracelets, lol). Can't wait to see where their relationship goes later in the Manga.
その2人は幼なじみの初恋っぽくて推してる。あの編の序盤でも好意あるの分かりやすかったし。Olreggio派だね(笑)今後が楽しみ。普通くん
Prof_Acorn
They had Coco blushing back at him with lovey-dovey looks in her eye as well.
Cocoも頬を染め、彼に恋する眼差しを返しておったでござる。武士
honestly_idgaf
You realise that's her fever right?
それ、彼女の熱だって分かってるよね?普通くん
Prof_Acorn
At the end? She was already discharged and feeling better.
最後の時点で?もう退院して元気になってたやん。2ちゃん
honestly_idgaf
Ohhhh... Def not then.. sorry.. I meant in the hospital..
あぁ…じゃあ絶対違うね、ごめん。病院のこと言ってた。普通くん
shrek3onDVDandBluray
….so even tho you put it in spoilers, I can pretty much guess what the spoilers are going to say.
…いや、ネタバレ隠ししてても中身ほぼ予想つくんだが…無理。感情くん
Last_Supermarket_451
An episode of witch hat coming out the first day of pride month, I’m so sure…
プライド月間初日にとんがり帽子のアトリエの回が来るとか、もう確信しかない…普通くん
BlazeKnight7
Ironically this ep is arguably the most Hetro Witch hat has been thus far 😂
皮肉にも今回、とんがり帽子のアトリエ史上一番ヘテロ回まであるやろ😂2ちゃん
Chaos_Demoness
happy pride month
ハッピープライド月間じゃん!🌈ギャル
BugScholar1193
原文
Didn’t expect them to make Sasaran Cockney in the dub ahah. It’s actually a very tricky accent to pull off well, it feels a little panto-y here but still, fun to try! Onto the rest of the ep, I loved how they showed Tartah’s disability and how shaping a world that works equally well for disabled people is so important. I really enjoyed the visual metaphor of Tartah’s hat going from being in darkness to slowly going into the light as he discovers more knowledge about magic and how he can make it work for him. Even if it’s a littttle bit taboo but well we know what’s in store don’t we.. . I think my favourite frame was when the tranquileaf grew out of the bottle, it reminded me of that infamous scene in Mononoke where the leaves grow out of the forest spirit’s footsteps. Just stunning . Also more Dark Qifrey™️ this episode! The classic anime lens glare is always fun. He’s kinda terrifying no? “‘Things are easy for Witches.’ Hardly. If they were, we wouldn’t have to worry or suffer as we do..” 😢( sometimes being a manga reader is like getting the brick thrown at you every ep.. Anyway glorious as always! See you all next Monday for one of my favourite bits in the manga!! 🩵
Sasaranを吹替でCockneyにしたのは予想外。Tartahの障害描写と帽子が光へ向かう比�考察くん
Hungry_Seat8081
In Japanese it's the same VA as Captain Mayuri from Bleach. Ngl this was the first time I recognised a VA from another show, ig probably because he also talks in the same manner as Mayuri.
日本語版、BleachのCaptain Mayuriと同じ声優なのすごッ。正直、初めて別作品の声優に気づいた…話し方がMayuriまんま!感情くん
BugScholar1193
Oh I love it when that happens! 😊 That’s neat!
そういうの起きるのめっちゃ好き!いいね!😊普通くん
SuspiciousIbex
Really beautiful episode, I was tearing up seeing a child told they're useless finding hope in the world.
ガチで綺麗な回やったわ。「役立たず」って言われた子が世界に希望見つけるの見て、ワイ泣きそうになった…2ちゃん
LordSyriusz
原文
The more I see, the more I am wondering, how the heck are they keeping the secret that magic is drawing? They have it in plain sight, like in this ep it was on the boat! And they even had people closing the "circuit". Everyone could see it! And in first episode, main component of the flying carriage could be seen by everyone and they could see the spell! And they are going around frying people's brains if they see it being drawn, but it's fine to see the spells? Sure they kept ink a secret, it seems like keeping eye on ink supply is the reason why they managed magic under control, but drawing part seems like secret only to kids and people who wouldn't figure it out even if they were apprentice...
見れば見るほど、魔法=描くことって秘密どう守ってるの?船でも丸見えじゃん。描くとこ見たら脳焼くのに、魔法陣はOKなの?インク管理は分かるけど。普通くん
frondeus
原文
True but then it seems that overall circles and circle patterns are part of the human society there. Like similar patterns are on Cocos mother clothes, are used for common art etc. So my guess is - witches can to some degree hide it in the plain sight just because you would never know what is actually a magic circle and what isn't. If you dont know what to look for. Right? Then there is the case of what was mentioned few episodes before - there are ink ingredients that make it invisible. And then there is one more part that keeps the status quo - Magic Police - if anyone connects the dots they can react and erase the memory? But overall yeah, the boat one is definitely more sloppy than carriage one. With carriage at least they kind of make it hidden and then I bet they explain it that the pegasus is magical not the carriage itself or something.
せやな。円模様は普通に社会に溶け込んでるし、魔法陣か分からんやろ。透明インクやMagic Policeもある。ただ船は馬車より雑やな。2ちゃん
LordSyriusz
原文
True, but also if they can make ink invisible, why it is not a law that all artifacts sold or given to non magicians has to use the invisible ink? I feel like a lot of smart people could figure out that drawing is probably a part of using magic. They have inquisition to wipe people's memories if the see drawing, but can't be bothered to use invible ink or hiding ink under normal paint? Feels weird.
確かに。でも非魔法使い向けの道具は全部見えないインク義務でよくない?賢い人なら魔法に絵が関係あるって気づきそうだし、変な感じ。普通くん
goodpplmakemehappy
原文
dont forget episode 1, they state that the Outsiders are often given magical items by witches. they dont understand how it works, they just know, "this magic rock with symbols on it makes my boat go fast" or "makes my carriage fly and you broke it!" they just dont understand that anyone can create magical items also.. what do you think would happen if they see the circle? lol, they cant recreate spells without magic ink even if they try!
1話を忘れちゃいけない。外の人間は魔女から魔法道具をよく授かってて、仕組みは理解してないんだよな。「この記号入りの石で船が速く動く」程度の認識で。誰でも魔法道具を作れるとは思ってない。彼らが魔法陣を見たらどうなるか…魔法インク無しじゃ呪文は再現できないって考察できる。考察くん
LordSyriusz
Yeah I think that control over ink is far more important than secret of drawing. And it is weird, that if they want to protect it so hard, that they wipe people's memories, they don't even try to hide drawings.
うん、描き方の秘密よりインク制御の方がずっと重要だと思う。記憶まで消して守るのに、絵を隠そうともしないのは変だよね。普通くん
BatGalaxy42
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There's nothing to indicate to Outsiders that it's just drawing. They might be able to recognize there are sometimes magic symbols involved (remember, they try to draw beneath their robes so sometimes even that's not visible), but Outsiders wouldn't know that there aren't incantations or special hand movements or "magic powers" or whatever also involved. They also might not know that the symbols are simply drawn on - it could be that you do some magic whatnot and the symbol appears there as part of your spell casting.
部外者からしたら“ただ描いてるだけ”なんて分からんやろ。記号もローブ下で見えんし、呪文や手振り込みと思うやん。2ちゃん
LordSyriusz
Drawing part is not obvious, but it feels weird that they go to such length to protect the secret, but then they show spells in plain sight. It feels like ink is far more important to control.
描く部分は目立たないけど、秘密守るの必死なのに呪文は丸見えって変じゃね?インク管理の方が大事そうなんだけど。ギャル
skeleton_clique_143
to be fair all witches train a lot to draw semi perfect circles that outsiders would never guess those are hand drawn
まあ実際、魔法使いは手描きに見えんレベルのほぼ完璧な円描くためにめっちゃ訓練してるんやろな2ちゃん
LordSyriusz
I don't think it really matters if they are hand drawn or not. I would assume that they would use compass regardless, at least for artifacts, or spells prepared in the altier.
手描きかどうかは正直どうでもいいかな!少なくともアトリエで準備する魔法や道具なら、どっちにしろコンパス使うと思う。感情くん
KinOfTheMountain
It's the ink. If a regular person traces the drawing without the special ink, it doesn't work. So the regular person thinks you need something special to make drawings work assuming they connect the dots.
インクだよ。普通の人が特殊なインクなしで絵をなぞっても発動しない。そこに気づいても、特別な何かが必要だと思うはず。普通くん
Iamnotunique57
This is my favourite episode yet. It's so cool to see Tartah's perspective be animated!
今回が一番好きな回すぎるッ!Tartah視点がアニメで見られるの、最高にアツい!感情くん
alimirakim
原文
Very nice episode overall! Love the shots done in Tartah's perspective with the silverwash, was so hoping they'd do that. I'm not 100% on how I feel that they still felt the need to add a small tint of color a lot of the time; I'm sure they tried going full monochrome too and judged that ​it was prudent for clarity or such. but still haha. I am glad for the small change from manga where Qifrey only leaves after the fire is out because I was like LOL wtf Qifrey how can you not be capable of wiping this fire with your water magic. It literally is that easy for you hahaha. But then being asked to help clean up and rebuild etc. afterward because outsiders think everything can be done with a snap of the fingers, that makes more sense to me. I really like how they brought Coco's sick state to life so you really feel that she's suffering and in pain from her cold. Whenever she lets out more rough wet coughs, you can feel how Tartah must feel desperate to want to help somehow. The overlap transition of Tartah looking at the paper and then the pen from when he was whittling was very nice too.
全体的に良回!シルバーウォッシュのTartah視点カット最高やん。色味足したのは少し惜しいけど草。Qifreyの火消し改変、Cocoの風邪と咳、Tartahの必死2ちゃん
thelightlovekindled
I'm not 100% on how I feel that they still felt the need to add a small tint of color a lot of the time I couldn't tell if that was the show or if it was my eyes "filling in" the color despite reality (shamefully, I was a white/gold dress viewer, so I know my eyes lie to me), so good to know it wasn't just me!
薄く色を足してるの、正直どう思うか微妙。作品側なのか自分の目が勝手に補完してるのか分からなかった。自分だけじゃなくて安心!普通くん
PapaBeer642
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Does silverwash get rid of all color, or just severely mute them, like a silver filter overlaying the person's eyesight? Most colorblind people in real life see colors, they just can't distinguish specific hues, which is why there are so many different kinds of colorblindness. Some see in grayscale if they have achromatopsia, but that's incredibly rare. Perhaps this is what silverwash is supposed to be? Though achromatopsia also creates other problems (light sensitivity, reduced sharpness, involuntary eye movements) and Tartah doesn't show signs of those, so... It doesn't seem like he has a type of dichromacy, either, though any of those would make it incredibly challenging for him to distinguish essential colors to identify components. Which leads be to suspect silverwash is akin to achromatopsia, but far less severe (given the lack of other symptoms), perhaps being reduced but not absent function of all three of his cones. Thus showing as a silver filter over his vision, muting color and making them harder/impossible to distinguish, without making his vision competent grayscale. Perhaps one of his cones is especially faulty, adding an element of dichromacy on top of that silver filter. This is a lot of words to say that I thought his vision not being grayscale felt like a more natural and realistic depiction of his condition than if it had been grayscale, based on what I know about colorblindness.
silverwashって完全な白黒化じゃなく、銀フィルターで色が激薄になる感じなんかな。Tartahの視界、むしろリアルでええわ。2ちゃん
alimirakim
原文
From the manga 's verbiage, it's basically full grayscale. I'd guess they wanted to keep things a bit simple for a manga without explaining all the different types of color blindness or vision science or choosing a color blindness that can be difficult for able-visioned people to intuitively conceptualize, so they made up a slightly fantasy 'silverwash' color blind condition. The anime likely added a tiny of color to some of his scenes for aesthetic/readability reasons, especially since for some scenes like when he looks at the medicine bottles where color is most important for Tartah, those look full grayscale.
原作の表現を踏まえると、彼の見え方は基本フルグレースケールなんだよな。色覚異常の種類や視覚科学を細かく説明せず、健常者にも直感的に伝わりにくい設定を避けるため、あえて「シルバーウォッシュ」というファンタジー的な色覚設定を作ったんだと思われる。アニメは美しさや見やすさのために少し色を足したんだろうけど、薬瓶を見るシーンみたいにTartahにとって色が最重要な場面はフルグレースケールになってる、という考察ができる。考察くん
Hexagon-Man
Having to make me watch my baby girl be sick and suffering should be a crime. And on Pride Month no less.
うちの愛娘が病気で苦しむ姿を見せるとか犯罪でしょ…。しかもPride Monthに!?無理、しんどすぎる…感情くん
WeaklyStomach
I love tartah and coco interacting they are adorable
tartahとcocoの絡み大好き!2人ともかわいすぎじゃん!ギャル
PapaBeer642
This was the best episode of the season. Perfect pacing, great perspective work, compelling voice acting, and extremely strong thematically. I've been enthralled in the series many times, but this is the first time an entire episode had me so thoroughly gripped from the beginning to the very end. 10/10
今季ベスト回だった。テンポも構図も声の演技も最高で、テーマ性も強い。最初から最後までここまで引き込まれたのは初めて。10/10普通くん
KYLEquestionmark
so tetia is danish
てかtetiaってデンマーク系なの?ギャル
etoilesadventures
I fell in love how they showcased Tartah’s silverwash and his joy in finding new ways to see.
Tartahのsilverwashの見せ方と、新しい見え方を見つける喜びに惚れた。普通くん
detarameReddit
原文
That was a solid episode. I like how the anime's exploration of Tartah's silverwash questions how witch society refuses to make things better on two fronts: by using magic, and by truly caring for people with disabilities. This is not just a failure of meritocracy; it is also a failure of people to make meritocracy truly fair. Coco's penchant for accidentally breaking the rules of the Pact ends up helping Tartah on the former front as she combines magic with medicinal knowledge this episode. However, the story seems to suggest that it is the latter – approaching solving any problem with a human-first approach – that actually improves society. This is what Coco does, independent of the machinations and systems of the brimhats and the pointed caps.
良回やったわ。タルターのシルバーウォッシュの話、魔女社会が魔法使わんし障害者を大事にせん問題をちゃんと突いてて草。実力主義の失敗やなくて、公平にできてへんのが問題やねん。ココは事故的にルール破ってタルター助けるけど、結局「人優先」の姿勢が社会良くするって示しとるんやろな。2ちゃん
Corinne1
I really enjoyed this episode. One thing I did find funny: Coco was being treated/acting like she was on her death bed from a fever. Like yes, fevers can be pretty rough, but girl have some soup you'll be ok lol Just a funny trope I notice in a lot of anime that I think is silly.
今回かなり楽しめた。Cocoが熱で死に際みたいに扱われてたのは笑う。熱はきついけど、スープ飲めば大丈夫だろっていうアニメあるあるだな。考察くん
Minikin-Smith
原文
In a world without antibiotics an illness could easily go south quickly and kill you. Heck, sometimes it happens with us today with all our modern medicine. Look and Kyle Busch, just died from a sinus cold that turned into sepsis. We’re not sure how advanced medicine is in this world, but it’s clearly running a little behind. Especially if science is less advanced since magic is there to solve so many of life’s problems.
抗生物質のない世界じゃ病気が急に悪化して死ぬこともある。現代医療があっても起きるし、この世界の医学は魔法のせいか遅れてそうだね。普通くん
LightswornMagi
"Local witch apprentices vandalize hospital's entire medicine supply. Suspects claim they have no memories of the incident."
地元の魔法使い見習いたち、病院の薬ぜんぶ荒らす。容疑者は「その時の記憶ないんだけど笑」って主張、やばくね?ギャル
ExpiredDeodorant
原文
Finally caught up to this... It's nice watching a well written and pleasing to look at fantasy series Might start buying the manga since I like the line work and compositions I feel like Qifrey has some relationship with the Brimmies in the past, like possibly his parents turned into them or something Wonder why the Brims are targeting coco specifically... is there something special about her? I also think the new spell Tarta makes will be the key to the witches finding out the Brimmies infuse their ink with blood. So far it feels like the story really wants people to acknowledge their personality and stuff like disabilities, setbacks etc and find ways to succeed despite them or because of them? And maybe they're also going to do this with Richeh who... probably has to pass the exams sooner or later.
やっと追いついた。よく練られてて見た目も綺麗なファンタジーはいいね。線画や構図が好きだから漫画買おうかな。 - Qifreyは過去にBrimmyと関係ありそう、親がそれになったとか? - なんでcocoが狙われるんだろ、特別な何かがある? - 障害や挫折を乗り越えて成功する話がテーマっぽいね普通くん
hope_flakes
This episode was nice, but it definitely feels it got the slimmest budget of the season. Only one shot of a building on fire and no water magic beyond Qifrey's room cooling spell. The one shot of the plant forming in the vial was pretty impressive though.
今回は良かったけど、今期で一番予算が薄い回という考察ができる。火事は1カット、水魔法もQifreyの部屋冷却だけ。ただ瓶の植物形成は見事。考察くん
DoubleOk9260
原文
To me, this looks on par with ep 1 and 5. There was plenty of extra care on the level of detail (the hands esp are the best in the series so far in terms of consistency, the eyes, the bottles, the water effects for when he squeezes the cloth, the hair wow). I noticed that there are extra frames of settling when they move from pose to pose (which is as much extra work as doing action scenes btw) but i guess it just a pet peeve of mine when people claim that when something moves fast on the screen or distract you with lots of effects it must mean it's more quality. And saying that more quality must mean more budget hah-
個人的には1話・5話並み。手や目、瓶、水、髪まで細部が丁寧。速い/派手=高品質、さらに予算って言われるのはちょっとモヤる。普通くん
hope_flakes
原文
It's a nitpick, to be sure. If you look at the manga, Chapter 17 specifically, Qifrey and the other witches are actively fighting the fire with water magic, and he even pulls a baby out of the building. Compare this to the anime where they're just standing around after the fire is already out, and it's not hard to conclude that they decided to cut costs by not animating the smoke, fire, flying around, and extra bodies onscreen. Such things would take more time, and thus, cost more. That is how it works. I can't lie and say I didn't want to see it animated. There's nothing wrong with the direction on a technical level, and its not like the art was poor or off model. I just had that knowledge going in, and had different expectations.
重箱の隅だが、原作17話ではQifreyたちが水魔法で消火し赤子も救う。アニメは作画コストを削ったと考察でき、期待してただけに惜しい。考察くん
PapaBeer642
Counterpoint, the choice to cut that bit saved time for use on a much more emotionally and thematically compelling story. With infinite budget and the same episode time constraint, I think I would have made the same choice.
反論すると、そこを削ったおかげで、もっと感情的にもテーマ的にも強い話に時間を使えた。同じ尺なら予算無限でも同じ選択したと思う。普通くん
DoubleOk9260
原文
I just think that leading with 'feeling' that this episode 'has the slimmest budget of the season' because there's 'one shot of a building on fire and one water magic scene' around is a bit disingenuous, in addition to the follow up reply. You probably did not mean it that way, but my first impression of the reply felt dismissive of the extra work they've dedicated on the rest of the scenes, which took up a vast majority of the runtime. Sorry. We both know that budgeting for an anime is more complex than 'more money/time must equal more quality'. So maybe you are right, and maybe I am wrong. But to me they seem to have dedicated their best team into this episode, and put a lot of extra care into it especially in the post production side.
『火事の建物1カットと水魔法だけで今季最薄予算っぽい』2ちゃん
Prof_Acorn
Saving budget for the next three episodes, which will have the first real witch against witch battles.
次の3話に予算温存してるんだろうね。初の本格的な魔女同士のバトルがあるし。普通くん
hope_flakes
I hope that they can get to it! I'm looking forward to the Serpantback Path itself being animated.
そこまでやってくれるとええな!Serpantback Pathがアニメで見れるのガチ楽しみやわ。2ちゃん
FBI-INTERROGATION
Not labeling medicine is RIDICULOUS All the downsides of silver wash syndrome are blatantly fabricated
薬にラベル貼らないとかありえなすぎるッ!銀洗い症候群のデメリット、全部あからさまな捏造じゃん…感情くん
AmadeusNagamine
Yeah, hearing the doctor say that baffled me...I ain't even a doctor and I would be frothing at my mouth if someone tore off the labels off all my oils, lubricants and so on And well, Qiffrey did say how the Pointed Hat society are assholes like that to "exceptions"
うん、医者の発言は困惑した…。俺でもオイル類のラベル全部�普通くん