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くらどに様
大学の合宿での肝試しで“吊り橋効果”を狙った恋のチャンスに期待する城崎だったが、嬉野と肝試しに向かって早々、下呂は“音使い”鳴子と対峙することに。“音使い”鳴子は肝試し全体に罠を張りめぐらせ...。
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Weak_Season_Of_Anime
Insane aura farming with the massage chair and making a violin on the spot with his own damn hair.
マッサージチェアでオーラを振りまいて、自分の髪の毛で即席バイオリン作るとか、無理すぎるッ!優勝だろこれ!!感情くん
Ocixo
Out of all the crazy tricks in today’s episode, I was indeed the most amazed by how Naruko effectively turned his hand into a chainsaw, carved a violin out of tree and strung the string with his own hair. Gero’s party trick doesn’t look all that impressive in comparison.
本日の回で最も狂気の技、それは成子が自らの手をチェーンソーへと変貌させ、樹木からバイオリンを削り出し、己の髪を弦として張るという神秘の儀式よ。我が目はその光景に釘付けとなった。ゲロの手品など、この圧倒的な力の前ではただの小細工に過ぎぬのだ。中二病
Frontier246
Let's not forget he probably pulled all those ladies at the drinking party without even using his hypnotism at first!
飲み会で最初は催眠術すら使わずにあの女性たちを口説いてたってのがすごいよね。普通くん
cyberscythe
i would've also been impressed if he ate a tree and vomited up a violin and they had a fiddle duel in the woods
やばくね!?もしあいつが木を食べてバイオリン吐き出して、森の中でフィドル対決してたらそれもヤバかったじゃん笑ギャル
Ocixo
they had a fiddle duel in the woods I’d unironically love to watch such a thing happen. That would be kind of epic.
森でのフィドル勝負、某(それがし)は本気で見てみたいでござる。なかなかの見ものになるであろうな。武士
AlphaBreak
And he somehow even gave the violin a good polished sheen too
しかもバイオリンまでちゃんと磨いてピカピカにしてるのすごいな普通くん
diacewrb
But he kind of let himself down with the oil barrel bathtub. I would have thought he would have made himself a full onsen to truly appreciate the massage chair and maybe some fruit milk afterwards.
え、油ドラム缶風呂で自分を落としちゃった感じじゃん笑 てか、マッサージチェアを存分に楽しむなら本格的な温泉作って、その後フルーツ牛乳も飲みたかったんだけどな〜!やばくね?ギャル
ErikTwice
The dude leaves in a permanent state of aura farming with a cherry of fanservice on top.
草ァ!常にオーラまとってる上にサービスシーンまで添えてくるとか完全に主人公やんwww2ちゃん
nqtoan1994
Don't forget that he first approached Gero when one of his hand was busy with the handheld massager 😆
忘れるなよ、あいつが最初にゲロに話しかけた時、片手にマッサージャー持ってたんだぜw😆wwwおじ
PeaceAlien
Sound master has quite a few tricks up his non-existent sleeve (because he's always shirtless)
やばくね!?サウンドマスター、常に裸でしょ笑 袖ないのに結構トリック持っててすごくない!?ギャル
Frontier246
Bruh is just practically flexing with that perpetual shirtlesness and tight pants lol.
あの常時裸にタイトパンツは完全に自慢してるだけだろw普通くん
nqtoan1994
He even wore his tight pants in bath 😆 I totally expected that he would jump out of the barrel naked but I should really have expected nothing from Naruko.
お風呂にまでタイトパンツ履いてるの笑ったwww てっきり裸で樽から飛び出すかと思ったけど、ナルコに期待しちゃダメだったわ…!感情くん
DiamonDawgs
Yeah for being the sound guy villain, he's pretty cool
サウンド担当の敵キャラって感じなのに、めっちゃカッコよくない!?やばくね!?ギャル
FarCritical
Rare sighting of a sloth climbing a Gero tree Never seen someone resort to violins as quick as Naruko before.
レアすぎる!ナマケモノがゲロの木登ってるの見たことないわw でも鳴子がバイオリンに手を伸ばす速さには笑ったッ!優勝すぎるこのシーン感情くん
Raymond49090
She's really trying her best to climb the best girl rankings.
彼女、マジでベストガールランキング上がろうと頑張ってるなwwwwおじ
PerfectBeige
Never seen someone resort to violins as quick as Naruko before. Some folks are super high strung.
まあ鳴子ほどすぐにバイオリンに手を出す奴も珍しいよな。そういう神経質なやつはどこにでもいるもんだ。ドライおじ
cyberscythe
too late to bow out now
もう遅すぎるッ!今さら降りられないでしょ!感情くん
drt0
Rare sighting of a sloth climbing a Gero tree that was the cutest thing ever
珍しいナマケモノがゲロの木に登ってるの見れたんだけど、めっちゃ可愛かったわ普通くん
NoHead1715
> sloth climbing a Gero tree That's a koala cat
やば!それコアラ猫じゃん笑 てか木登りするナマケモノってまじでゆるすぎて草ギャル
Equivalent-Weather59
I lost it at the massage chair, Naruko is so funny
マッサージチェアで爆笑したッ!!なるこ面白すぎるだろ優勝感情くん
Frontier246
I love how he's trying to drive Shiori to kill herself but he's also just completely vibing through everything. Just hitting the massage chair, lounging in a makeshift bath, just enjoying himself.
草ァ!自殺に追い込もうとしてるのに完全にマイペースで草生えるわ マッサージチェアに突っ込んで、即席風呂でゴロゴロして、完全にエンジョイしとるやんwww2ちゃん
ModieOfTheEast
I wouldn't be surprised if the massage chair wasn't vibrating because it was on, but just because Naruko is vibrating his own muscles all the time to create sound.
マッサージチェアが振動してたの、電源入ってたからじゃなくて鳴子がずっと自分の筋肉を振動させて音を出してたって説、普通にあり得そうだな。普通くん
Shrike99
I mean the alternative is he somehow found a power socket in the middle of a forest so yeah, imma go with the vibrating theory.
いやもう森のど真ん中でコンセント見つけるよりバイブ説の方が現実的すぎるッ!感情くん
VoidRay728
Compared to the Water Master, the Sound Master really makes his elemental power seem like the most OP power ever.
水の達人と比べれば、音の達人のエレメンタルパワーはまるでこの世の最強の力であるかのように感じられるのだ。中二病
JJVM99
This mission has made the water master mission seem like a walk in the park in comparison.
このミッション、水使いのやつが楽勝に思えるレベルじゃねえ…ッ!ヤバすぎるだろ!感情くん
OldInstruction5368
原文
Well, during that fight, there was an implied hierarchy amongst the masters. IIRC, there are 3 (or a small number) of "great" masters, then there are the 'lesser' masters. In particular, the Water Master kept speaking about new 'business' disrupting the stagnant status quo... clearly in reference to herself as a "lesser" master usurping Gero's position as one of the more established ones. Or, you know, a 'new money vs old money' classist vibe. They may both be "Masters," but they are not peers.
あの戦闘中、師範たちの間にも序列があるって感じだったよね。確か3人(少人数)の「大物」師範がいて、それ以外は「下位」師範って感じ。特に水の師範が「停滞した現状を壊す新しいビジネス」って言ってたのは、自分が「下位」師範としてゲロの確立した立場を奪うって意味だったんだろうな。つまり「新興勢力vs旧勢力」的な階級意識ってこと。両方「師範」だけど、同格じゃないって感じ。普通くん
HarshTheDev
I lost it when he built a fucking violin from scratch lol
まじで笑ったんだけど!バイオリンをゼロから作っちゃうとか頭おかしくね!?笑ギャル
Frontier246
I really like how they're being creative with the Master abilities, like the many different ways you can spin the effect of sound or what poisons/toxins can produce in yourself and others.
ふむ…マスターの能力の使い方が実に興味深いでござるな。音の効果を様々に捻る術や、毒・毒素が己と他者にもたらす多様な作用——某(それがし)、この創造性に感服致した。武士
Thomas_JCG
Poison Master Gero is also looking mighty useless since all he could do all this time was dodge and his poisons don't work. Even his enhanced strength seems weaker to Naruko just casually crushing rocks with his toes and carving a violin with his bare hands.
毒使いのゲロ、マジで使えなさすぎやろwww 今までは避けるだけで毒も効かねえし。強化された筋力も鳴子が素足で岩砕いたり素手でバイオリン彫ったりしてるの見ると弱く見えるンゴねぇ…2ちゃん
LeonKevlar
原文
I didn't expect I'd like Shiori this much, but so far, she's been pretty solid in this arc. Like, I was thinking Gero would have to save her from Naruko's hallucinations, but even after seeing her dad basically tell her to kill herself , she chose to fight back and tried to escape instead of getting on the noose. It's cool to know that Shiori's uncle learned about Gero from Kitami's review. It sounds like before he found Gero, he had to deal with those two brothers from the first episode . I'm assuming this was before Gero made them consider retiring from the business. Naruko is so goddamn extra. The dude is so confident that he can pull this assassination off without getting close that he brought a massage chair and a barrel to take a bath in was fucking hilarious! Also, the dude literally made a violin using the trees and his hair! I can't wait for Gero to melt that smug grin on his face tho. The more smug the antagonists are, the more satisfying to see their ass get beat.
詩織がこんなにいいキャラだとは思わなかったわ。今のところこのアークでかなりしっかりしてるよね。ゲロウが鳴子の幻覚から彼女を救わなきゃいけないのかと思ってたけど、父親に自殺しろって言われても、彼女は戦うことを選んで脱出しようとしたんだよな。詩織の叔父がキタミのレビューからゲロウのことを知ったっていうのも面白い。ゲロウを見つける前は、第1話に出てきたあの兄弟と戦わなきゃいけなかったんだろうな。多分、ゲロウが彼らに引退を考えさせる前の話だと思う。鳴子はマジでやりすぎだよな。近づかずに暗殺できるって自信満々で、マッサージチェアと浴槽用の樽まで持ってきてたの笑ったわ。しかも木と自分の髪でバイオリンまで作ってたし!でもあのドヤ顔をゲロウが溶かしてくれるのが待ちきれない。敵キャラがドヤればドヤるほど、ボコられるのが気持ちいいんだよな。普通くん
IndependentMacaroon
tried to escape The Girl Who Leapt From Home Obvious reference with the pose
やばっ!「時をかける少女」のポーズで逃げようとしてるの、まじでわかりやすすぎじゃない?笑ギャル
Frontier246
Shiori's so cute and earnest! Also surprisingly busty.
しおりちゃんガチで可愛いし真面目やん!あと胸意外とデカいやん草www2ちゃん
Ocixo
Shiori got a very endearing personality, so I find it hard to not like her. That said, best girl Kinosaki still reigns at the top for me.
しおりの性格めっちゃかわいいじゃん!嫌いになる要素なくない?笑 でもやっぱり俺の中でトップは木ノ崎が降臨してるんだよな〜まじで不動のエース!ギャル
ObvsThrowaway5120
Well, would ya look at that. The gross stomach polymer thing from Gero’s disturbing party trick actually came in handy lol. The Sound Master is proving to be a real pain in the dick. I don’t really know how Gero’s gonna beat this fool. All his measures so far have been temporary stopgaps at best but that blonde bastard still seems like he has the upper hand…
おやおや、ゲロの気持ち悪い胃袋ポリマーのパーティートリックがまさか役に立つとはな笑。音の達人がめっちゃ厄介な相手すぎるわ。ゲロがどうやってあのバカを倒すのか全然見当つかない。今までの対策は全部一時しのぎに過ぎないし、あの金髪のクソ野郎はまだ優勢なままだしな…普通くん
Frontier246
Gero knows the real way to impress a lady isn't just to reassure her of her safety and save her from assassins but also show off the diversity of your skillset.
マジでゲロやばくね!?女性を口説くのって安全を守って暗殺者から救うだけじゃダメなんだよ、自分の多彩なスキルをアピールするのが大事ってわかってんじゃん!笑ギャル
KumaKumaGambler
Another epic battle between Masters, but let us not forget that Shiori is strong in her own way (ordinary human wise). When Shiori was about to be hypnotized into hanging herself, she broke free of the hypnotism through her sheer will to improve. (And perhaps to make people happy again as a magical girl.)
またもや師弟の激闘やったけど、シオリも普通の人間としてちゃんと強いってことを忘れたらあかんで。首吊り催眠かけられかけたときに、向上心だけで自力で催眠振り切ったやん。(ついでに魔法少女として人を笑顔にしたいって気持ちもあったかもしれんけどな)2ちゃん
Frontier246
Also the expensive headphones were a good idea had Naruko not planned ahead of time.
確かに、ナルコが事前に準備してなかったらあの高級ヘッドホンは良いアイデアだったね。普通くん
hanmkim
He obviously watched the Batman Beyond episode with Shriek.
まじでバットマン・ビヨンドのシャリーク回見たんじゃね?笑ギャル
a1oner_bvcksn6
Naruko aura farms like his job depends on it while attacking from a distance. And right when Gero thinks he's cornered him, he just whips out a violin within seconds? So much cheat skill these (blank) Masters have, makes me wonder what kind of ass pull it will take for Gero to win this time.
なるこは遠距離攻撃しながらオーラ稼ぎが仕事レベルだよな。で、ゲロが追い詰めたと思ったら一瞬でバイオリン取り出すってどんなチートだよ。マスター連中のスキルヤバすぎて、今回ゲロがどうやって勝つのか気になるわ。普通くん
ClemFire
I wonder if it will involve Kinosaki as he didn't have much to do this episode
確かにキノサキあんまり出番なかったしな…。次回で動きあるのかな?気になる!感情くん
cyhlalala
That violin scene was the funniest thing I've seen all year
あのバイオリンシーン、今年一番笑ったわw普通くん
ModieOfTheEast
原文
I don't know guys, but I think Himekawa might have fallen for Gero. That 5 star review "subtly hints" at it. I am surprised that the sound Master is actually this much of a problem. But tbf, I did not expect that he could just make a violin out of a tree and his own hair. I might be excused for not taking into account that he is just built that differently. Though I feel with them facing each other, Gero should have enough chances to get close. Hey, maybe he even hid some actual poison around the area as some form of trap when he made sure the observation via strings was not possible anymore. As for Shiori, I am interested to see if they are finishing her story already next week or if that is going to be a longer arc throughout the story. I at least hope we understand why her father chose her. Considering this is a toy company, I wouldn't be surprised if she is able to take away the fear by them just having fun with the toys. Which would be enough hint for me. Also, one last thing. Gero said that he should be used to holding girls by now thanks to Kinosaki. Now I want a side story where they show Gero holding and carrying Kinosaki as some form of training arc.
俺も思うんだけど、姫川はゲロに惚れたんじゃないかって。あの5つ星レビューが「さりげなく」示唆してるよな。音響マスターがここまで厄介とは驚きだ。でも正直、木と自分の髪でバイオリンを作れるとは予想してなかった。あいつが規格外だって考慮しなかったのは許されるだろ。ただ、彼らが向かい合ってる状況なら、ゲロが接近するチャンスは十分あるはず。もしかしたら、糸での観測が不可能になった時に、周辺に毒を仕掛けてトラップにしてるかもな。詩織については、来週で彼女の話が終わるのか、それとも長期的なアークになるのか気になる。少なくとも、なぜ父親が彼女を選んだのかは理解したい。玩具会社って設定なら、おもちゃで楽しむことで恐怖を取り除けるって展開もあり得るな。それが十分なヒントになる。あと最後に、ゲロが木崎のおかげで女の子を抱き慣れてるって言ってたよな。訓練編として、ゲロが木崎を抱えたり運んだりするサイドストーリーが見たい。考察くん
OldInstruction5368
原文
That review was written by the fanclub guys. Kitami. He was the same one Kinosaki thanked for the GPS tracker she he placed on Shiori (there was that little cut out thanking Kitami). But otherwise... yeah... Kinosaki already said it: Himekawa was clearly DTF for Gero. I at least hope we understand why her father chose her. Considering this is a toy company, I wouldn't be surprised if she is able to take away the fear by them just having fun with the toys. Which would be enough hint for me. Oh, I like this! Her father chose Shiori because she genuinely likes making people happy. Such as when she used her family's own products in her magical girl act. She may not be a ruthless businesswoman, but she has the right soul for the family business. Unlike the sister that looks like she cares only for profit, and the brother... is a meat head? But Shiori just wants to bring joy into the world. And that's more important than $$$$ Also, one last thing. Gero said that he should be used to holding girls by now thanks to Kinosaki. Now I want a side story where they show Gero holding and carrying Kinosaki as some form of training arc. All while Kinosaki torments Gero by relentlessly flirting with him the entire time. For his training. Yes. Training. It's totally "exposure therapy." And nothing else. He's not having fun teasing Gero... OK, maybe a little a great deal. But Kinosaki totally isn't falling in love with Gero and taking advantage of "training" to enjoy getting closer to him. Nope. Not at all! :p
あのレビュー書いたのは北見っていうファンクラブの連中だよ。木ノ崎がGPSの件で感謝してたやつ(栞に付けたGPS、北見に感謝するカットがあった)。でもまあ…そうだな、木ノ崎も言ってたけど姫川は明らかに下郎にヤる気満々だったしね。少なくとも彼女の父親がなぜ栞を選んだかは理解できた気がする。玩具会社だし、おもちゃで遊んで楽しさを共有すれば恐怖を取り除けるってのは納得。それで十分ヒントになる。 お、これいいな!父親が栞を選んだのは、彼女が純粋に人を喜ばせるのが好きだからだよね。魔法少女のパフォーマンスで自社製品を使った時みたいに。冷酷なビジネスウーマンじゃないけど、家業にはぴったりの魂を持ってる。利益しか考えてなさそうな姉や脳筋の兄とは違う。栞はただ世界に喜びをもたらしたいだけ。それが金より大事だよ。 あと最後に、下郎が「木ノ崎のおかげで女の子を抱き慣れたはずだ」って言ってたけど、木ノ崎を抱きかかえる訓練編のスピンオフが見たいわ。その間ずっと木ノ崎がしつこく誘惑してくるやつ。訓練だからね。完全に「曝露療法」だよ。他でもない。下郎をからかって楽しんでるわけじゃない…いや、まあちょっとは楽しんでるかも。でも木ノ崎が下郎に恋して「訓練」を口実に距離を縮めてるわけじゃない。普通くん
ModieOfTheEast
Well, I guess Kitami is falling in love with Gero as well then. I did notice that he was the one with noise canceling headphones though. But on a serious note, I like that the characters are still relevant. I wonder if the "supporters" will then try to make Gero fall for their girl as well. Would be funny if they all meet for a strategy discussion.
北見もゲロに恋愛感情を抱き始めてるって考察できるな。ノイズキャンセリングヘッドホンしてたのは確かに伏線だったかも。ただ真面目な話、キャラクターたちが今もなお物語に絡んでくる構成は評価したい。支援者たちが今度はゲロを自分たちの推しに落とそうと動く可能性も考えられる。全員で戦略会議を開く展開になれば面白いんだけどな。考察くん
HarshTheDev
I don't know guys, but I think Himekawa might have fallen for Gero. That 5 star review "subtly hints" at it. Was that review from Himekawa herself or her fanclub?
ヒメカワ、ゲロに落ちたんじゃないかな。あの5つ星レビュー、それ「微妙にほのめかしてる」よね。あれって本人が書いたのか、それともファンクラブが?普通くん
Frontier246
I think it was the fanclub because they mentioned selling organs.
ファンクラブやろな、臓器売買って言うてたし草2ちゃん
Frontier246
原文
All of Gero's ratings are going to come across as top tier praise/flirting from all the girls leaving reviews lol. I feel like what Shiori lacks in social experience she makes up for in earnestness and gumption. Also someone who thinks she could pull a Mary Poppins move (plus the magical girl cosplay) might have the sense of whimsy that someone needs to run a toy company. Imagine Kinosaki having him give Kinosaki piggyback rides and Gero getting a lot of thoughts about the feel of Kinosaki's fake boobs.
げろの評価は全部、女の子たちからの最高の褒め言葉&口説き文句になってる感じだなw。しおりは社会経験不足を誠実さと度胸でカバーしてると思う。それにメアリー・ポピンズみたいな真似(+魔法少女コスプレ)を考えつくセンスは、おもちゃ会社を経営するのに必要な遊び心だよな。木崎にげろがおんぶされて、木崎の偽乳の感触にげろがいろいろ考えちゃうシーンを想像してみ?普通くん
ModieOfTheEast
Tbf, in the situation Shiori was in, the umbrella was actually a "better" choice than whatever else she could have done. In general, I like how they portray her thoughts in situations like these (similar to social moments) where she checks 10 different options in a short amount of time.
せやな、しおりの立場からしたら傘は他の選択肢より「マシ」やったんやろな。こういう状況(社交的な場面とか)で、一瞬で10通りの選択肢をチェックする彼女の思考描写、結構好きやで。2ちゃん
ClemFire
原文
As for Shiori, I am interested to see if they are finishing her story already next week or if that is going to be a longer arc throughout the story. I at least hope we understand why her father chose her. I think we already saw the reason why in this episode. Shiori may be physically weak, but she managed to break through the sound master's brainwashing and showed off her strength of will. I've really been liking how much Shiori tries for herself to improve even if it's not enough and they could've had Gero save her earlier but I prefer this approach
志織に関しては、来週で彼女の話が終わるのか、それとももっと長い展開になるのか気になるな。少なくとも父親が彼女を選んだ理由はわかるようになってほしい。今回のエピソードでその理由はもう示されてたと思う。志織は身体的には弱いけど、音使いの洗脳を打ち破って意志の強さを見せてくれたよね。自分なりに成長しようと努力してるところが本当に好き。足りない部分はあるけど、ゲロがもっと早く助ける展開もできたはずなのに、今の描き方の方がいいと思う。普通くん
jinxx_99
Tbf I need more scenes with Kinosaki period
せやな、キノ崎の出番もっと欲しいンゴwww2ちゃん
JJVM99
原文
How the hell did Naruko get a massage chair into a tree? With that chair, bathing in the barrel under the fire and turning a log into a violin the sound master is leaving me baffled. Naruko- “If I change the target now, he might get me from behind instead.” I also hope this doesn’t happen Naruko, not because I want you to win but because you are not the guy I want to see Gero get from behind. Kinosaki claiming he will only get involved and help this time. Sure my guy, everyone knows this is not true, even Gero. Also the moment Gero said he was more used to carrying women thanks to Kinosaki followed by the Kinosaki sticker with him saying I showed him the ropes and Kinosaki panicking when he sees how Gero is carrying Shiro were very cute moments.
鳴子、どうやってマッサージチェアを木の上に持ち込んだんだよ。あの椅子に焚き火の下での樽風呂、丸太をバイオリンに変える音の達人…もう意味わかんねぇわ。鳴子が「今ターゲットを変えたら後ろからやられるかも」って言ってたけど、俺もそれは避けてほしい。勝ってほしいからじゃなくて、ゲロに後ろからやられる相手はお前じゃないからな。木崎が「今回は手を貸すのはこれっきり」って言ってたけど、もちろん嘘だよな、ゲロですらわかってる。あと、ゲロが「木崎のおかげで女の子を運ぶのは慣れてる」って言った後に木崎の「俺が手ほどきした」スタンプが出て、実際のゲロの白乃の運び方を見て木崎が慌てるシーン、めっちゃ可愛かった。普通くん
nqtoan1994
It seems like he carried it with him, as seen in previous episode, while he was standing up the top of an electric pole .
前のエピソードで電柱の上に立ってた時も、どうやらずっと持ち歩いてたっぽいな!やばすぎるッ!感情くん
JJVM99
Ok this is more absurd than anything he did this episode. Really helps him be stealthy and not stand out/s. The main though I have looking at this picture besides laughing is stealth 100.
草www これ今週の行動よりアホやろ。ステルス性能ガチで上がるわ、目立たなくなるしな(白目)。この画像見て笑いしか出てこんかったけど、ワイの感想はステルス100や。2ちゃん
ErikTwice
This anime has some of the most batshit insane stuff...and then what actually shocks me is stuff like this.
このアニメ、めちゃくちゃ狂った展開ばかりなのに…こんなところで逆に衝撃を受けるとは思わなかったわ。普通くん
ClemFire
I am vibing with it
めっちゃノってるじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル
TheBusStop12
Bro has some real priorities
草、それな。優先順位ガチでぶっ飛んでるンゴwww2ちゃん
SnabDedraterEdave
How the hell did Naruko get a massage chair into a tree? With lots of mind-controlled minions at his disposal, this shouldn't be too much of a problem. The real question is why he wants to have a massage chair in a tree? lol
なるほど、成子がマッサージチェアをどうやって木の中に持ち込んだんだろう?でも洗脳された手下がたくさんいるなら、そんなに難しくないかもね。本当の疑問は、なんで木の中にマッサージチェアが欲しいのかってことだけどなw普通くん
SomeTool
dude is here to vibe, literally.
このキャラ、まじでノリだけで生きてるじゃん笑 やばくね!?ギャル
TheBusStop12
Apparently he carried it himself, someone linked a shot from a previous episode where he carries a massive box on his back
あの箱、自分で運んでたのかよ。前の話で背負ってるカットがあったみたいだな普通くん
noam_good_name
i kinda assumed it has something to do with vibrations, either to maximize his senses/relaxtion, or he somehow controls/finetunes the strings with the chair
せやな、振動とか関係あるんやろな。感覚MAXにしてリラックスするか、椅子で弦を微調整してるかどっちかやろwww2ちゃん
ErikTwice
It may an ASMR thing? But I have no idea lmao
ASMR的なやつかも?でも俺にはさっぱりわからんw感情くん
nqtoan1994
Handheld massager -> Massage chair -> Outdoor bath Naruko was just enjoying his damn life while manipulating others with his sound technique. So that big thingy he carried in the previous episode is the massage chair?
前回持ってたデカいやつってマッサージチェアだったのか。鳴子はハンドマッサージャー→マッサージチェア→露天風呂って、音の技術で他人操りながらクソみたいに人生楽しんでるだけじゃん。普通くん
AceSoldia
Wait what? I don't get how the sound masters technique creates a giant Also..why was she chosen with a birthday of March 31st? What? I may need to rewatch
えっ何?音の達人の技でなんで巨大化するのか意味わからん…あと3月31日生まれって何で選ばれたの?意味不明すぎるからもう一回見直すわ感情くん
KumaKumaGambler
I believe it is because the school year in Japan starts in Apr and ends in Mar the following year?
日本の学校年度は4月始まりで翌年3月終わりだからだと思うよ。普通くん
AceSoldia
Huh ok guess that makes more sense
え、まじで!?そういうことか〜納得じゃん!ギャル
TheBusStop12
Wait what? I don't get how the sound masters technique creates a giant My guess is that the giant is made up off disturbed dirt and dust held together through vibrations in the air around it
えっ待って、音使いの技でなんで巨人ができるのか意味わかんないんだけど。多分、周囲の空気の振動で舞い上がった土や埃が集まってできてるんじゃないかなって推測してる。普通くん
cyberscythe
the kanji does suggest that it is a bunch of dust/dirt/garbage that i guess is being controlled by the vibrations or something 巨: giant 塵: dust/dirt/trash/impurity
漢字を見る限り、これは振動とかで操られてる大量のゴミやチリって感じだよな!「巨」はでかい、「塵」はゴミとか不純物って意味だし…なんかもう設定だけでエモすぎるッ!感情くん
Historical_Working42
In Japan, kids are usually grouped from those born from April 2nd to April 1st of the following year in the same school year. For example, kids born from April 2, 2000 to April 1, 2001 will be in the same school year. Since Shiori's birthday is March 31, she's born a day before the cut-off line.
日本では、4月2日生まれから翌年の4月1日生まれまでが同学年になるんだよね。例えば2000年4月2日〜2001年4月1日生まれが同じ学年。詩織の誕生日は3月31日だから、締切の一日前に生まれたってわけか。普通くん
ClemFire
After seeing what Gero can do with poison I feel like this is battle shonen logic and I'm on board
ゲロの毒の使い方を見て「これバトル少年漫画の理論だな」って確信したけど、俺は乗ったッ!最高すぎる!感情くん
SnabDedraterEdave
Japan school semesters start in April and end in March, so every batch of new students of the same age would have the oldest birthday on April 1st and youngest on March 31st.
え、それ日本あるあるじゃん!4月から新学期始まって3月までで、同じ学年の子たちの誕生日、一番早いのが4月1日で遅いのが3月31日なんだって!まじで知らんかったわ〜笑ギャル
Nachtwandler_FS
Damn, I hoped they will deal with Sound Master this episode, but now another wait.
サウンドマスター今週片付くと思ったのにまた待ちかよ…草2ちゃん
Freakjob_003
I'm late, but this is the top level comment I could generically latch onto: One of the students said they had a birthday in February, and another said March 20th, while Shiori said March 31st. How the fuck is she the earliest???
遅くなったけど、ここに便乗させて:生徒の一人が2月生まれって言ってて、もう一人が3月20日、しおりが3月31日って言ってたんだよ。なんで彼女が一番早いんだよ???普通くん
stalling_for_time
Might be a translation issue but they were looking to sacrifice the youngest since the ghost story was showing them sacrifice newborns. Shiori having the latest birthday makes her the youngest.
翻訳の問題かもしれないけど、幽霊話で新生児を生贄にしてたから最年少を捧げようとしてたんだよね。詩織の誕生日が一番遅いから彼女が最年少ってわけ。この設定エモすぎるッ!感情くん
SnabDedraterEdave
原文
Fight between Gero and Naruko did not disappoint, and it seems Bones want to give it the full justice that we're gonna get another episode next week to resolve the battle. Clever thinking by Gero, where if he's unable to take out Naruko's near-invincible sonic wires, he'll just take out the trees which the wires are hanging from. Though Naruko still got one more trump card, his brainwashing skills in mind controlling the class into trying to kill Shiori. Kinosaki has her work cut out for her, every marriage consulting job for Gero has ended up with her also dobling as a pseudo bodyguard for Gero's date. Now Kinosaki has to keep this mind controlled horde at bay until Gero can take out Naruko at last.
ゲロとナルコの戦闘は期待を裏切らなかったな。そしてボンズはこの戦いに完全に決着をつけるべく、来週もエピソードを用意しているようだ。ゲロの思考は巧妙で、ナルコのほぼ無敵のソニックワイヤーを直接破壊できないなら、ワイヤーが掛かっている木々を倒せばいいという発想。しかしナルコにはまだ切り札が残っている。洗脳能力でクラスメイトを操り、シオリを殺そうとさせるとは。木崎は毎回、ゲロの結婚相談業務に加えて、デート中の擬似ボディーガード役まで務めているわけだ。今回もゲロがナルコを倒すまで、この洗脳された集団を抑え込まなければならない。彼女の負担は相当なものだ。考察くん
mastesargent
Kinosaki has her work cut out for her, every marriage consulting job for Gero has ended up with her also dobling as a pseudo bodyguard for Gero's date. His*
木崎は大変そうだな。Geroの結婚相談のたびに、彼のデートの護衛役も兼任してるみたいだし。普通くん
ClemFire
Kinosaki mentioning the suspension bridge effect is pretty meta, but Gero is too earnest to rely on that trick.
木崎が吊り橋効果とか言っちゃうのめっちゃメタいじゃん!でも下呂はマジメだからそんな小技に頼んないんだよね笑ギャル
Serpent-6
I think they are really dragging this arc out for a girl Gero certainly won't end up with. 3 episodes?
このゲロが絶対に結ばれない女のために、このアークを引き伸ばしすぎじゃね? 3話もかけるってマジかよ… しんどすぎるッ!感情くん
Major_Ad138
I think it’s more about Gero. He may not end up with each one but he grows or learns from each considering his isolated upbringing. This arc is actually quite a few chapters if I remember correctly. They are actually getting through quite a bit faster than expected. Arcs after this and even Shiori are better after this. But I get what you’re saying.
この展開、ゲロに焦点が当たってると思うんだよね。彼は結局各ヒロインと結ばれないかもしれないけど、閉ざされた育ちを考慮すると、それぞれから成長や学びを得ている。このアークは確か結構な話数あったはずで、思ったより早く進んでるんだよな。この後やしおり以降のアークの方がさらに良くなる。ただ、言いたいことは分かる。考察くん
Serpent-6
Thanks for the info.
情報サンクスやわ2ちゃん
VancityGaming
Yeah, I enjoyed the first few episodes and love the idea of the show but might drop it if it is just monster of the week like this for the entire thing.
最初の数話は面白かったしコンセプトも好きなんだけど、毎回この調子で敵が出てくるだけなら見るのやめるかもな。普通くん
jinxx_99
(2)
やばくね!?これまじで神回じゃん!てかこの展開予想外すぎてやばいんだけど笑ギャル
Serpent-6
It's been 2 episodes in the arc so far and it hasn't wrapped up yet...
もう2話もこの編やってるのに終わらねえンゴwww2ちゃん
jinxx_99
Like can we move on already, plus I can't really appreciate the sound master. I just want more scenes with Kinosaki 😔
もういい加減進まない? それに音響監督の凄さも正直あんまり伝わってこないんだよな… 木ノ崎のシーンもっと見たいのに😔感情くん
Accomplished-Limit-5
Each job helps establish him as a hero of the underworld and increases his perceived desirability, and he's learning along the way. I didn't like this arc in manga but the anime is making the themes hit for me.
各仕事が彼を裏社会の英雄として確立させ、彼の魅力度を高めているんだ。その過程で彼自身も学んでいる。原作のこの編はあまり好きじゃなかったけど、アニメでテーマがより深く響くようになったな。制作陣の意図が明確に伝わってくる。考察くん
RepulsiveRevenue8
Naraku is a total delight and this show finally goes into turn your brain off and enjoy the action territory
ナラク最高に面白いな。この作品はついに頭空っぽにしてアクション楽しむタイプのアニメになった感じだね普通くん
Houbouring
What even is a modified bloodline!? May as well have been mage bloodlines, and that way you can get away more easily with this
修正された血筋って何だよッ!? 魔術師の血筋って言っちゃえばよかったのに、そっちの方がごまかし効きすぎるだろ!感情くん
Frontier246
It's his awkward sincerity and dedication to his mission that gives him all the rizz he needs! It comes Kinosaki approved!
草、不器用な誠実さと任務へのガチな献身が全部のリズになってるやん! キノサキ公認ってのがワロタwww2ちゃん
HolyDragSwd2500
Naruko living the fancy life even out in the woods Plays his Violin Log
森の中でもナルコは優雅に暮らしてて、バイオリンを弾いてるのがいいな普通くん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
原文
I'll be super glad when this fucker's gone* Oh damn, they're gonna trick her into falling for him! They say TV adds 10 pounds, but apparently selfie sticks add 10 layers of eldritch distorsion! Oh no! The suspension bridge effect will make her fall for this thing! She managed to fight back against the control! She might not be as weak as they think! Damn, our boy can't go 2 episodes without bridal-carrying a girl! ...Or a boy. We're even getting a piggyback ri- Wait, what? Is this how first dates usually go?
あの野郎がいなくなれば超嬉しいんだが…まあ、あいつに惚れさせるつもりだろ。テレビは10ポンド増えて見えるって言うけど、自撮り棒は10層の異様な歪みを加えるらしいな。まずい、吊り橋効果でこいつに落ちるぞ。でも彼女は支配に抗えた。思ったより弱くないのかもしれない。ったく、あの男は2話も経たずに女をお姫様抱っこするのか…いや、男もかよ。おんぶまで登場か…待て、これが初デートの普通の流れなのか?ドライおじ
cyberscythe
I'll be super glad when this fucker's gone* 50/50 chance he's going to be a marriage candidate for Gero
草、こいつ消えたらワイめっちゃ喜ぶわw でも50%の確率でゲロの結婚候補になるンゴwww2ちゃん
ClemFire
Gero does not discriminate
げろさん、マジで選ばないんだなッ!優しすぎるだろ!感情くん
lilmissgarbagecant
原文
I love the absurdity of this show lolol like a massage chair and violin strings with his hair?! Hahahaha it’s so fun!!! Def enjoyed this more than last weeks and shiori is starting to grow on me but I don’t see her as a real contender for gero as a partner at this point. I think that’s the last thing she needs and needs to work through all her shit first so I wonder how she’ll be when she comes back!
このアニメのぶっ飛び具合マジで好きwww マッサージチェアにバイオリン弦を髪で弾くとか草生えるww めっちゃ面白いやん! 先週より確実に楽しめたわ しおりもだんだん好きになってきたけど、現時点で下呂の本命候補とは思えへんな あいつはまず自分のゴミを片付けるのが先やろ 次に戻ってきた時どうなってるか気になるンゴwww2ちゃん
Frontier246
Find something you enjoy as much as Kinosaki does pulling men/women and helping Gero hook up with/flirt with cute girls.
キノサキが男女を引き寄せてゲロと可愛い子をくっつけるのを楽しんでるくらい、自分も夢中になれるものを見つけてね。普通くん
thisisdropd
原文
Wondered how Naruko could get rid of Gero that easily during the selfie. It only dawned upon me at the shrine when then humanoid monster approached Shiori. It's Shiori herself who's been hallucinating all along and we as the audience saw things from her perspective. Naruko's the trickiest opponent so far. Pretty much the entire camp's been under his whole control the whole time. He's also a pretty funny guy with a flair for the dramatic. Sitting on a chair in the middle of the forest while shirtless. Not sure how Gero would overcome him. So far all he'd been doing was reacting. Couldn't turn things around while he's always on the defensive.
なるほど、自撮りシーンで鳴子がゲロをあっさり追い払えた理由がようやく腑に落ちた。神社で人型の怪物が栞に近づいた場面で気づいたんだが、あれは栞自身の幻覚で、視聴者である我々も彼女の視点で世界を見ていたわけだ。鳴子は現時点で最も厄介な敵だと言える。キャンプ場全体が彼の掌中にあったという考察ができる。しかも上半身裸で森のど真ん中に椅子に座るという、非常に劇場的なユーモアの持ち主でもある。ゲロがどう彼を打ち負かすかは未知数だ。これまでの彼の行動は全て反応的なものに過ぎず、守勢に回っている間は形勢を覆せないというのが現状だ。考察くん
Magnafeana
原文
I’m currently coordinating my three layered pride braids and the OP has me even more hyped for my June lewk! Pride, trans, and bisexual flag layers with little intersex flag beading! This is exactly why we need to put collars, harnesses, and leashes on men: so we don’t lose them in a dark forest. I feel like gymanists intentionally run like this to freak people out. I’m Mary Poppins, y’all! ☂️ TF does this not shatter your knees? Ooo I thought my squats were murder. Shiorin, girl 😭 I mean same, I’d climb this man like a tree, but girl Why his calves look like they’re being milked like that? You look stupid in cat ears Mfer made this personal. Cat ears make one feel ✨bonita✨ Whatever’s happening to her eyes looks like EDM visuals 10K word review???? sees man tiddies no nipples I know no nipples is The Standard but still 🥀 Wet is a good look on this psycho long haired baddie. Oh damn. He actually does have nipples. I want to show this to violinist friends. Good for Shiorin for using her own strength to bust free. She’s strong in her own way. I appreciate that. Gero looks so pretty with his gas mask and cat ears ☺️ This episode felt quick and now I’m impatient for next week. I have never seen an antagonist just…make a violin that violently before, but I’m always here for characters playing instruments as some sort of power, so why not? I’m curious if they’ll animate him correctly playing violin or not. It makes me extremely happy when characters are playing instruments accurately. I’d like more of that.
今、三層のプライド編み込みを調整してるんだけど、OPで6月のルックへのテンションさらに上がったよ!プライド、トランス、バイセクシャルのフラッグレイヤーにインターセックスのフラッグビーズも付けてるんだ。男に首輪やハーネスやリードをつけるべき理由がまさにこれだよ。暗い森で迷子にならないためね。体操選手ってわざとああやって走って人を怖がらせてる気がする。私はメリー・ポピンズだよ、みんな!☂️ これで膝が壊れないの?スクワットもキツいと思ってたけどな。しおりん、女の子なのに😭 確かにこの男を木みたいに登りたいけど、でも彼女のふくらはぎ、乳搾りされてるみたいじゃない?猫耳つけてるとバカに見えるよ。あいつ、これ個人攻撃にしてきたな。猫耳つけると✨ボニータ✨な気分になるんだよ。彼女の目に起きてることはEDMのビジュアルみたい。一万字レビュー??男の胸見えたけど乳首なし。乳首なしが標準なのは分かってるけど、それでも🥀 濡れてる姿はこのサイコな長髪イケメンに似合ってるな。おっと、実際には乳首あったんだな。バイオリン弾く友達に見せたい。しおりんが自分の力で脱出したのは良かった。彼女なりに強いんだな。そこは評価するよ。げろはガスマスクと猫耳でめっちゃ可愛い普通くん
Frontier246
原文
This test of courage is tailor-made for improving Gero and Shiori's relationship! She gets to hold onto his sleeve for dear life, Gero gets to reinforce that he's there to protect her and keep her safe so she can have a good time, and they even have an excuse to take a couple selfie. Though nothing kills the romance vibe like everything transforming into a horror movie as Shiori gets chased by Lord Chladni into his temple...where she faces a vision of her father who puts throws the doubts about herself and why her father chose her as her successor at her face in horrifying fashion. All to drive her to kill herself and end her suffering. But Shiori's not a weak Heroine! Trying may be hard, finding friends may be hard, putting herself out there might be hard...but she's going to do it anyway! Because she has the will to live! And jump out of the temple from a cliff where she'll fall to her death! Which might not have been the best idea, but it's the principle of the thing! Shiori is not Mary Poppins, but her boobs DO fall well. And luckily Gero is there to save her when she can't save herself. Water-absorbent polymer isn't JUST for party favors! And Gero is so cozy to koala glomp onto! All that Kinosaki training was worth it! Shiori, the cat headphones are cute, too bad they've been bugged into being another tool for Sound Master Naruko to use to try and make her kill herself. Even her swole uncle is now doubting her while making gains! But while her uncle has had terrible choices in bodyguards up to this point, Gero came highly recommended which just shows how much Shiori's uncle truly cherishes her. Shiori needing to take a minute to reconcile with the fact that the "good guys" had been bugging and tracking her the whole time. With good intentions! Really! Poison vs Sound! Gero vs Naruko! But what can Gero do against the vibing Sound Master and his Super effective sound threads? Especially when they coalesce into one giant Lord Chladni made of sound? Good thing the Poison Master isn't JUST good for poison: he can make trees grow exorbitantly and ruin the sound vibes! Ah, I see. Make all the campers scared to control them and turn them into a mob to sacrifice/kill Shiori. Get her out of there, Kinosaki! Have to say, using a violin threaded with your own hair is...so on-brand for a Sound Assassin.
この肝試し、ゲロとシオリの関係強化にぴったりやんwww シオリが袖掴んで離れへんし、ゲロは守ってる感出せるし、自撮りする口実にもなるしな。 でもクラドニ卿に追われて寺に逃げ込んだらホラー映画と化すんやな…父親の幻覚見せられて「お前は後継者に相応しくない」って自己否定と死の誘惑される展開。 でもシオリはヒロインとして弱くない!辛くても友達作る、自分を出す、全部やる!生きる意志があるからな! 崖から飛び降りるのは正気の沙汰ちゃうけど、そこが心意気や。 シオリの乳はメアリー・ポピンズじゃないけど、落ち方がエロい。助けるゲロも水吸収ポリマー有能すぎやろ。 猫耳ヘッドホン可愛いのに、音響マスター・ナルコに自殺誘導装置にされてるとか草。 叔父さんもバルクアップしながら疑ってるけど、ゲロを推薦したのはシオリを大事にしてる証拠やな。 「味方」にずっと監視されてた事実にシオリがショック受けるのも無理ないわ。 毒vs音波、ゲロvsナルコ。木を生やして音波妨害できる毒使いって反則やろwww キャンパー全員操ってシオリを生贄に捧げようとするナルコ、自分の髪で弦張ったバイオリン使う音響暗殺者って設定凝りすぎやで。2ちゃん
NanDemoKnaives
It's interesting to see a sound ability used like this and with the set up Naruko has to make for it to be effective.  I'm glad Shiori was able to overcome the hallucination of her father on her own, I like that she also tried to find a way to save herself rather than completely panic.
音の能力をこんな風に使うのは面白いし、成子が効果を出すための準備もいいね。 - 栞が父親の幻覚を自力で乗り越えられたのは良かった - 完全にパニックにならずに自分を助ける方法を模索したのも好印象だと思う普通くん
MisoRamenSoup
Dude made a violin out of a log and his hair in 5 seconds flat. This is so anime.
丸太と自分の髪で5秒でバイオリン作ったんかよ草www これぞアニメやろガチで2ちゃん
CrimsonGear80
Where did he plug in his massage chair???
マッサージチェアのプラグ、どこに差したんだよッ!? 気になりすぎる!!感情くん
GloriousNipOnSteel
He's powering it with his electromagnetic sound waves or something, look I'm more impressed at how he balanced the fucking thing on a tree limb.
草、電磁波かなんかで動かしてるらしいけど、ワイはあのクソデカいのを木の枝にバランスよく置いたことに驚いてるンゴwww2ちゃん
yuval2407
probably just vibrating it using his soundwaves. i doubt he has control over electromagnetic waves, since sound isnt that, and hes the sound master.
たぶん音波で振動させてるだけだと思う。電磁波を操れるとは思えないな。だって音は電磁波じゃないし、彼は音の達人だしね。普通くん
PAN--
Is this show just going to be a bunch of short arcs with different women that don't return once a master has been beaten and the mission is complete?
この作品って毎回違う女キャラ出してボス倒したら終わりで、その後出てこないパターンなんか?ワイは飽きるンゴwww2ちゃん
PAN--
Great news, thanks!
いい知らせだ、ありがとう!普通くん
KiwiBennydudez
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おいおい、ネタバレはソースマテリアルコーナーでやれってルールだぞ。 知らなかったならルール読めや。8日間BAN食らうで。2ちゃん
Prestigious_Spend_81
Kinosaki: Gero, bonding over shared scary situations is a easy way to make someone fall for you. - not a foreshadow for their relationship at all.
城崎「ゲロ、怖い体験を共有すると恋に落ちやすくなるんだって」って言ってたけど、あれ完全に二人の関係の伏線だったね。普通くん
BarnacleBitter2026
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I was following Naruko's powers for a while: sound waves to cause things to collapse, okay. Sound waves that cause hallucinations and can control people's mind, sure. But what in the unholy heck does creating a giant monster rampaging through the forest have to do with sound!? At first, I thought it might have been a visual metaphor, or another hallucination, but Naruko specifically said about the monster (after Gero immobilized it) "It's not moving? Not even it's legs?" That means it's a real, actual thing. So, how does sound or vibrations do something like that? It's stretching my suspension of disbelief, which is hard to do.
ナル子の能力、最初は「音波で物を崩す」ってんで納得してたわ。幻覚起こして人心操るとかもまあOK。でもよ、デカいモンスター召喚して森で暴れさせるのって音と何の関係あんねん!? 最初は比喩か幻覚かと思ったけど、ゲロが動き止めた後にナル子が「動かんの?脚も?」って言ってたし実体あるやん。音や振動でどうやったらこんなん生み出せるんだよ。さすがにワイの許容範囲超えてるンゴwww2ちゃん
djthomp
Sound dude is a real weirdo. The massage chair, the bathing, the violin, is he even taking this seriously? Nice callback with the water polymer thing coming in handy to save Shiori.
音響のやつはマジで変人だな。マッサージチェアに風呂、バイオリンって、マジで真面目にやってんのかよ?でも水ポリマーがしおりを救う伏線回収は良かったね。普通くん
goatesymbiote
ok the water assassin one was kind of a stretch but this ep was so over the top...
やばくね!?水の暗殺者編はちょっと無理あったけど、今回のエピソードまじでやりすぎじゃない!?笑ギャル
Grazalia
Wow twice in a week we get suspension bridge talk in this and Nakamura kun lol. For a moment there, I thought Heaven's door activated on Shiori's dad lol. And I think we had a girl who leapt through Time reference there lol Although that jumping pose is quite iconic in anime. The streamer headphones 😂 I love how this anime is like kitami. Who? Oh that guy right.
今週2度も吊り橋トークかよ草 中村くんとこでもあったしなwww 一瞬、詩織のパパにヘブンズドア発動したかと思ったわww 時かけネタも入ってたやん あのジャンプポーズはアニメ界のアイコンやろ 配信者ヘッドホンwww このアニメ、北見みたいで好きやわ 「誰?あああの人ね」ってノリがな2ちゃん
Raymond49090
The perils of fighting an enemy that had prep time, especially when you're running an escort quest.
事前準備をしてきた敵と戦う難しさだよね、特に護衛クエスト中だと尚更きつい。普通くん
runevault
It is stupid but sound master saying Super all the time is getting on my nerves. If I saw right and it is Hella in the manga that would be at least a thousand times better. Actually he talks too much in general, Super just makes it way worse than it would be otherwise. He's stupid and boring and needs his screen time cut in half.
確かに「スーパー」連呼は正直うるさく感じるな。原作のヘラなら少なくとも千倍マシだったはずだ。あのキャラ、全体的に喋り過ぎで「スーパー」が余計に悪目立ちしてる。考察すると、あれは単なる口癖ではなく、キャラの薄っぺらさを露呈する演出の一つだと思われる。頭悪くて退屈だから、スクリーンタイム半分に削るべきという意見には同意せざるを得ない。考察くん
Isekai_Dreamer
lol bro, you literally sat there for 15 minutes, watch the entire group get hypnotized, watched them do a roll call, watched them chase those girls. Then you sat there and watched the dude carve out violin pieces out of a tree and then assemble it together.
いやマジで笑ったわ、お前15分間ずっと座ってたんだろ、グループ全員が催眠にかかるの見て、点呼が行われるの見て、女の子たちを追いかけるの見て。それでそのまま座って、あの男が木からバイオリンの部品を削り出して組み立てるのを見届けたってわけだ。普通くん
Demofied
Sound guy a bit overtuned
音響さんちょっと強すぎやろwww2ちゃん
Throwaway785320
Did he just make a violin out of nowhere (I know he used the trees but what about the non wood materials)
いきなりバイオリン作り出したんだけど(木は使ってたけど他の素材はどうしたんだろうな)普通くん
Thomas_JCG
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Oh, so he could just have Frieren vs Aura that girl. Gero, just take out this try hard, his power is ridiculously busted for you to be running around. All the masters so far have pretty clear limitations but he is not playing by the same rules. What the hell does sound have to do with mental trauma? I could buy the mental control as power of suggestion and hypnosis, but he is not doing any of that, he is somehow amplifying thoughts, it doesn't make any sense. And how does his sound even reach miles away, even after Gero busted his network of wires? And what kind of sound technique is "make a violin in two seconds"? That's on par with Gero after he uses his ability. And yes, I realize this series is fiction, but suspension of disbelief is a thing and Naruko takes everything way too far.
あーなるほど、フリーレンvsアウラみたいな展開にできたのかよ。つーかゲロ、その無双野郎はさっさと片付けろよ。あいつの能力バグってるやろ、よく逃げ切れてるな。今までの師匠連れはみんな明確な制約あったのに、あいつだけルール無視しとるやん。音と精神トラウマに何の関係があるねん。暗示とか催眠で精神操作するならまだわかるけど、あいつはそんなこと一切せずに思考増幅してるやん、意味不明すぎるンゴ。しかもゲロがワイヤーのネットワークぶっ壊した後でも、どうやって数マイル先まで音届けてるんだよ。あと「2秒でバイオリン作る」ってどんな音技術やねん。ゲロが能力使った後の動き並みに意味わからん。いやフィクションなのはわかってるけど、現実味を保つって概念があるやろ。ナルコはやりすぎやで。2ちゃん
KalebT44
The sound technique is that he vibrated his hand fast enough to cut wood. The violin is just his own extraordinary physical abilities as an Assassin. You have no problem with sound being used as a power of suggestion but when that power of suggestion is amplyifying negative thoughts you suddenly do? It's doing what you said you could buy.
音響技術ってのは手を高速で振動させて木材を切れるって話だよね。バイオリンはただの暗殺者としての彼の異常な身体能力の結果でしかない。暗示としての音使いには問題ないのに、それがネガティブな思考を増幅させるってなると急にダメなの?君が言ってた「買える」ってやつを実際にやってるだけじゃん。普通くん
Thomas_JCG
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Still bullshit because vibrating yourself isn't directly tied to sound. Sound is a result of vibration, not the inverse. Physical abilities also have a limit, else Gero wouldn't have to poison himself to fight mobs. Thoughts have nothing to do with sound, the difference is pretty clear. How do you amplify something that makes no sound? What he could possibly be using to do so? Gero can't kill people by amplifying the alcohol people drink, Water Master can't remove the water from people's body. So there is no logic for Sound Master to affect someone without using a tool or something that actually produces sound.
確かに、振動そのものと音を直接結びつけるのは無理があるな。音は振動の結果であって、逆ではない。物理的な能力にも限界があるからこそ、ゲロウは雑魚戦に毒を使ったんだろう。思考と音は明らかに別物だし、音を発しないものをどう増幅するのか? 酒のアルコールを増幅して殺すことも、ウォーターマスターが体内の水分を抜くこともできない以上、音を発する道具や媒体なしで相手に影響を与えるというサウンドマスターの能力には論理的整合性が欠けているという考察ができる。考察くん
KalebT44
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Half your issues seem to be you don't grasp 2 things. It's an anime about a guy who poisons himself to get inhumanely strong, he just fought a waterbender, and obviously the sound guy is going to be just as absurd. And the second is that sound and vibration are intrinsically linked, and all your complaints make zero sense when you remember that. As for the 'thoughts' again, you have no problem assuming a Sound Master could use suggestion, but when that suggestion manifests in negative thoughts when he is shown quite clearly to be trying to make people kill themselves and use literal 'cutting words' you have a problem.
君の問題の半分は、2つのことを理解してないだけだと思う。まずこれは自分を毒で強化するやつのアニメで、さっき水使いと戦ったばかりだし、音使いも当然ぶっ飛んでるってこと。それと音と振動は本質的に繋がってるってことで、それを考えれば君の不満は全部意味不明になる。「思考」についても、音使いが暗示を使うって前提はOKなのに、実際に自殺させようとして「言葉で斬る」描写があるのに文句言うのはおかしいよ。普通くん
Thomas_JCG
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Your issue is that you do not understand what suspension of disbelief is. I can accept the whole bloodline thing because that's what the narrative is about. However, Naruko breaks that logic. "The water master controls water" makes sense even if is nonsense. It is only logical for the water character to use water, arguing against it is just as ridiculous. "The sound master amplifies negative thoughts and cause hallucinations" is not logical, there is a fundamental gap between "sound" and "thoughts", that is why I said it would make sense if he was using a sound frequency to make people suggestive. But that is not the case. The uncle had a one second doubt and somehow he could overwrite his entire mind. How? It just doesn't track, and thus the disbelief sets in.
お前の根本的な問題は「現実離れを許容するライン」がズレてるだけやろ。血筋云々は物語の大前提やから許せるわ。でも鳴子はその理屈をブチ壊す。「水使いが水操る」は馬鹿馬鹿しくても筋通っとる。水キャラが水使うのは当然やし、それに文句言う方がアホやろ。一方「音使いが負の思考増幅して幻覚見せる」は話が飛躍しすぎや。「音」と「思考」の間に根本的なギャップがあるんや。例えば特定の周波数で暗示かけるって設定なら納得できる。でも違うやん。叔父貴が一瞬疑っただけで脳内全部書き換えられるってどういう理屈やねん。辻褄合わへんから現実離れが許容できんのや。2ちゃん
KalebT44
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You do understand every time you are talking about it you are completely removing the part where he is using sound and a state of suggestion to control the other person, and then just saying he controls thoughts, right? Like you are specifically ignoring the part that you said you could buy, to complain that you cannot buy it. The thoughts are relevant because that is clearly adding in the susceptibility to his suggestion. The uncle thought for a second she could go, he mind controlled him, Shiori struggles with self doubt and self worth so she was susceptible to his control and suggestive whispers until she broke out of it. You are literally just flying over the part that explains what you want and just pretending it doesn't exist to complain.
毎回その話するたびに、音と暗示で相手を操ってるって部分を完全に無視して「思考操作してる」って言い換えてるの分かってる?自分で「これは信じられる」って言った要素をわざと無視して、信じられないって文句言ってるだけじゃん。思考が関係あるのは、それが暗示への感受性を明確に加えてるからだよ。叔父は一瞬「彼女が行けるかも」と思ったから操られたし、Shioriは自己不信と自己価値に悩んでたから操られやすくて、暗示の囁きに抵抗するまで影響受けてたんだよ。説明されてる部分を完全にスルーして、存在しないことにして文句言ってるだけだよね。普通くん
Thomas_JCG
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You are the one that is ignoring the fact that he is not using suggestion, he doesn't say anything to the person he is controlling. They specifically say he amplifies negative thoughts. For the uncle, he thought for a second about getting rid of the niece, and that was enough for the sound master to completely override his mind. How does he even knew that the uncle would have that minute of dark thoughts? How does he amplify only negative thoughts? How does sound create a golem? The fact that these questions pop up but we didn't ask the same about Gero and Water Master is exactly the issue. If you don't understand that, then there is nothing else to talk about.
お前は重要な点を見落としている。彼は「暗示」を使っているわけではなく、操っている相手に何も言葉をかけていない。作中で明確に述べられているのは、彼が「負の感情を増幅させている」ということだ。叔父の場合、一瞬だけ姪を始末しようと考えた。それだけで音使いは彼の精神を完全に掌握した。なぜ叔父がそんな一瞬の邪悪な思考を持つと分かったのか?なぜ負の感情だけを増幅できるのか?音でどうやってゴーレムを生み出すのか?これらの疑問が浮かぶ一方で、ゲロや水使いに同じ疑問を抱かなかったことこそが問題の本質だ。それが理解できないなら、これ以上議論する意味はない。考察くん
KalebT44
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He's a sound master, he is using sound to manipulate them. Again, the thing you said you could buy without any problem. The Uncle had the thought, so he was susceptible. The kids are panicking about the legend of Chaldri or however it was spelled, so they're susceptible to trying to sacrifice one of them. Shiori is filled with self doubt and low esteem so she was susceptible to nearly killing herself. etc etc etc. At least you finally asked about the Golem, which is what you should be complaining about. But also Sound, vibration, binding things together, it's well enough within the realm of possibility. Just like how the patterns on the masks and eyes are actual patterns you get when you have sand vibrating to certain frequencies. You should be asking the same about Gero and the Water Master, but you aren't. There's no reason any of this is more or less believable than someone generating and controlling water. The only reason you think that is because that is a more common ability. It is still equally as absurd.
音響マスターやんけ、音でヤツら操ってるだけやろ。お前が「何の問題もなく受け入れられる」って言った能力やぞ。叔父貴は考え込んでたから影響受けやすかったんや。ガキどもはチャルドリ伝説(スペル適当)にビビって生贄にしようとしてたし。シオリは自己嫌悪で自信なくて自殺しかけた。結局ゴーレムの話はようやく聞いたな、そこは文句言うべきやろ。でも音・振動・結合って範囲内やん。マスクや目の模様だって砂の振動周波数で出るパターンやし。ゲロと水使いにも同じ疑問持てよ、持たんやろ。水生成コントロールと何が違うねん。お前がそう思うのはそっちがメジャーな能力やからや。どっちも同レベルの荒唐無稽やで。2ちゃん
daspaceasians
What a cool episode. Naruko is a really great antagonist for this arc. His power and planning are really well done but we can also see some weaknesses as well which balances out his strengths in this fight. Also him being so chill the whole time makes it everything fun to watch. Otherwise, Shiori is a really fun addition to the show and I can't wait to see her grow as a character.
実にクールなエピソードだった。鳴子はこのアークにおける非常に優れたアンタゴニストだと言える。彼の能力と計画性は見事に描かれているが、同時に弱点も見え隠れしており、それが戦闘における強みとバランスを取っている。加えて、彼が終始クールな態度を崩さない点が、観ていて非常に楽しい要素になっている。一方、しおりも本作に加わったことで非常に面白いキャラクターとなっており、彼女の成長を今から楽しみにしている。考察くん
Pretend-Habit3403
How come sound can control giant earth golem? I know I shouldn't try to find logic in anime but considering it is a bit sci-fi, I find earth bending by vibrations very far fetched
音で巨大な土ゴーレムを操れるってどういう理屈なんだろう?アニメに理屈を求めるなってのは分かってるけど、SF寄りな作品にしては振動で土を操るって設定はかなり無理がある気がするな普通くん
mmcjawa_reborn
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Random Thoughts I remember watching the Water Master episode and thinking "Man I hope this character doesn't get offed, because I would like to see more of her". But man...Screw this sadistic piece of trash. I don't care how much aura farming the guys does, psychologically torturing our poor little target of the week is a step to far. I hope Gero literally melt's off that smug smile on his face. I guess my theory that Lord Chaldni or whatever was connected to the Sound Master and the source of his power were wrong...rather Lord Chaldni was invented by the villain and has properties of him thanks to its origin. Although...damn that was a tonal shift there...episode went pure horror for a short bit in the beginning.
ウォーターマスターのエピソード、最初見たときは「このキャラ死なないでほしいな、もっと見たい」って思ってたんだよな。でも……このサディスト野郎はマジで許せない。あいつがどれだけオーラを振りまこうが、毎回の標的を精神的に追い詰めるのはやりすぎだ。ゲロにはあのドヤ顔を物理的に溶かしてほしい。チャルドニ卿がサウンドマスターと関係ある説は外れたか……むしろ、チャルドニ卿は敵が作り出した存在で、出自ゆえに彼の性質を継いでいるという考察ができる。しかし……あのトーンシフトは衝撃的だったな。冒頭のホラー演出、完全にホラー映画だった。考察くん
EscapeddreamerD
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Yo what in the heck is going on with these Masters in this universe. Not only does the poison Master have just about any toxin that you can view he also has any potion he should be just be called potion Master to be honest. And don't even get me started on the Sound Master he vibrated his hand so fast from whistling that he was able to use it to cut down the treeAnd don't even get me started on the Sound Master he vibrated his hand so fast from whistling that he was able to use it to cut down the tree and make a violin and then use his hair as the violin strings for a weapon WTF.
この世界の達人たち、なんなんだよ。毒の達人はありとあらゆる毒薬とポーション持ってて、もうポーション使いって呼べばいいだろ。音の達人に至っては、口笛で手を超高速振動させて木を切り倒し、バイオリンまで作り出して、髪の毛を弦にして武器にするって、マジかよ。普通くん
Andreiyutzzzz
"we'll kill the youngest so kill the one born in march, even tho we have a october here.". They still act like kids huh.
「最年少を殺すって言うなら3月生まれを殺せよ、10月生まれもいるのに」って。やっぱりまだガキンチョだなあ。感情くん
jinxx_99
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Hmm mostly I need more scenes with Kinosaki. Kind of disappointing they've been shortening/cutting scenes with him in it. I like all the girls but I think Shiori just feels a little young (?) for Gero though there's no big age gap & they both lived kinda solitary lives. I dunno what the right word is sorry but I love her character, how she could think while falling and tried something. Not to mention super cute.
木ノ崎の出番をもっと増やしてほしいな。彼のシーンが短縮・カットされてるのはちょっと残念。ヒロインたちはみんな好きだけど、詩織はゲロにとってちょっと幼く見えるかな?年齢差は大きくないし、二人とも孤独な生活をしてきたけど。うまく言えないけど、彼女のキャラは好きだよ。落下中に考えて行動できるところとか、超かわいいし。普通くん
HuTaosTwinTails
If Gero won't. Can I marry kinosaki? Shiori went through it this episode.
確かに!もしゲロがダメなら、キノサキと結婚していい?今回のしおり、めっちゃ大変そうだったよな……しんどすぎるッ!感情くん
NoHead1715
Shiori shows her mental strength that makes her a great CEO candidate. Even while falling off a cliff, she still had the clarity of mind to try the Mary Poppins method of umbrella flying. Sure it failed, but the whimsy in her way of thinking makes for a good toy company CEO. I think her first new product could be some form of Gero's gel-in-a-can.
志織はCEO候補として優れた精神的強さを見せている。崖から落下中でも、メリー・ポピンズ式の傘飛行を試みる冷静さを保っていた。失敗したとはいえ、その遊び心のある発想は玩具会社のCEOに適している。彼女の最初の新商品は、ゲロの缶入りジェルのようなものになるのではないかという考察ができる。考察くん
mojo72400
Genya went & bathed in his pants like Chris Jericho in that 1 AEW skit. Genya even has a massage chair in the woods & used his hair strands as guitar strings. So the condition is only making Shiori's death look like a suicide or accident.
玄弥、クリス・ジェリコのAEWのスケッチみたいにパンツ履いたまま風呂入ってたな。しかも森の中にマッサージチェア置いてて、髪の毛をギターの弦にしてたし。つまり条件は、しおりの死を自殺か事故に見せかけるだけってことか。普通くん
Melchorio
for a sound master there wasn't much sound when he was fighting. more like summon master 🥱
音響マスターって言う割に戦闘中の音ショボすぎやろ。どっちかっつーと召喚マスターやん🥱2ちゃん
Yamabuki_Arisu_Sama
How the fuck does the sound ability even work I thought the golem was an illusion but Gero literally beat the image of the girl’s uncle (???) and then engaged in direct fighting with the golem?
ちょっと待って音の能力どうなってんの!? ゴーレムは幻覚だと思ってたのに、Geroが少女の叔父の幻影(???)ぶっ飛ばしてからゴーレムと直接戦闘始めたの意味わからんすぎるッ!感情くん
Kiboune
Out-of-pocket bullshit the anime
めちゃくちゃふざけたアニメだな普通くん