#12マリッジトキシン
放送 2026-06-23更新 2026-07-05
Sleepy10105s
The Hamster Master is still my top candidate
ハムスターマスターはやっぱりワイの中では最有力候補やわ2ちゃん
FarCritical
That laugh is unbeatable
あの笑いは敵わないな。ドライおじ
Frontier246
gya-ha-ha! That winning smile is also positively charming.
ぎゃはは!あの勝ち誇った笑顔もめっちゃ魅力的だね。普通くん
mojo72400
& her VA even if it's her 2nd role since her 1st role got me interested in her.
彼女の声優さん、初めての役から気になってたんだけど、今回2作目っていうのもすごくない?w ますます興味湧いてきたわ笑wwwおじ
Emi_Ibarazakiii
So you see, that's where the trouble began. That smile. That damned smile.
なるほど、問題はあそこから始まったんだな。あの笑顔だよ。あのクソッタレな笑顔が。普通くん
Skydarkou
The hamsters are the highlight of the anime
ハムスターたちがこのアニメのハイライトすぎるッ!優勝!!感情くん
redditraptor6
Like, I don’t know what we’re even still doing here. She’s the best. Wife her immediately. Pack it up everyone, the main conflict has been solved, we’re done here
え、もう何やってんのって感じだよね。彼女が最高すぎる。即刻結婚しろって。みんな片付けていいよ、メインの対立はもう解決したから、俺たち終わりだわ(笑)普通くん
RobrechtvE
原文
Great personality, familiar with his world, already totally into him... Also, just her entire appearance. Look, Gero, I know that the premise of the show requires you to faff about pretending to look for a potential marriage partner as a pretext for having a lot of cool and interesting adventures with awesome fights and all... But the search is over, mission accomplished. If he doesn't marry Kimie in the end, I can only assume it's because constantly injecting himself with poison has given him brain damage.
いやもうマジでキミエ一択やろ…
性格良し、世界観に詳しい、もう既にガチ恋勢やん…あと見た目も完璧やし
Gero、このアニメの前提的に「結婚相手探し」って建前で冒険してるのは分かってるンゴ…でももう探す必要ないやろ、ミッションコンプリートや
もし最後にキミエと結婚せんかったら、毒を打ち続けたせいで脳がやられたとしか思えんわwww2ちゃん
AceSoldia
Was I the only one that teared up a little when the spirit of the animals came out and ran up to their partners?..just me? Okay 😭
動物たちの霊が出てきてパートナーのとこに駆け寄った時、ちょっとウルッときたの俺だけ?…俺だけか?😭普通くん
FallenPears
I have to be completely honest, I was still laughing from the fact that what beat the Arcs Big Bad in the end was a load of grown adults making animal noises at him lmao.
ガチで草生えたわwww あのラスボスに勝ったのが大人の集団が動物の鳴き声真似してるだけってオチやんけwww2ちゃん
AceSoldia
It's such a silly show anyway I didn't even care 🤣
こんなバカバカしいアニメだし、どうでもいいわ🤣感情くん
dinliner08
that's the best thing about this anime, it takes the ridiculous moments and played it straight
このアニメの一番いいところだよね、馬鹿げた場面を真面目にやってるのが最高。普通くん
Frontier246
The Beast Masters didn't just stop Dogo, they also got to see and save their beloved partners one last time.
やばくね!?ビーストマスターズ、ドーゴを止めただけじゃなくて、最後にもう一度愛するパートナーたちに会えて救えたんだよ!まじで感動したんだけど!ギャル
Emi_Ibarazakiii
I think the OST made it more emotional too!
OSTのおかげでさらに泣けたわ…ガチでやばかったンゴwww2ちゃん
biskutgoreng
Man i cried
まあ泣けるシーンだったな。悪くない。ドライおじ
FarCritical
The dudes' vocal calls to their buddies were enough to get to me but the spirits were a 1-2 combo
仲間を呼ぶ男たちの声だけでグッときたのに、霊たちが追い打ちかけてきたわ普通くん
Mission_Ad9463
It definitely teared me up to
まじで泣けたんだけど!やばくない?!ギャル
Weak_Season_Of_Anime
For a moment I thought that the vampire bat was going to sacrifice itself to save the Beast Master by sucking out all the poison. Bats are pretty cool though, sure they might not have much aura but they can spread rabies and stuff. Hot dayum, is the Beast Master's sister gonna be a marriage candidate too? She looks like a baddie.
一瞬、吸血コウモリが全毒を吸い出して獣使いを救うために自己犠牲するのかと思ったよ。でもコウモリは結構クールだな。オーラはあまりないかもしれないけど、狂犬病とかを広められるし。うわ、獣使いの妹も結婚候補になるのか? 彼女、めちゃくちゃ魅力的に見えるんだけど。考察くん
Frontier246
Honestly felt bad for vampire bat. Toshiro had basically become obsessed with becoming an apex predator and embracing the entire animal kingdom when his little bat pal was still there and loyal to him no matter what, just like Byakko. Although thanks for basically sabotaging yourself and killing off enough people to where your baddie sister could take over!
正直、吸血コウモリには同情したな。トシローは頂点捕食者になることに夢中になって、動物界全体を受け入れてたけど、彼の小さなコウモリの相棒はずっとそこにいて、白虎みたいに何があっても忠実だったのにね。でも、自分で台無しにして人を殺しまくったおかげで、悪役の妹が乗っ取れたのは助かったけど!普通くん
Eunuchest
Bats are pretty cool though, sure they might not have much aura Batman says hi
コウモリって結構かっこいいよなw オーラはないかもしれないけどバットマンがよろしくってさ笑wwwおじ
Direct-Hedgehog-595
Aura dynamics degree holder Batman.
オーラ力学の学位を持ってるバットマンみたいだな。普通くん
Direct-Hedgehog-595
I low-key thought that the giant wolf was gonna bisect them at the end.
マジでデカい狼が最後に真っ二つにするかと思ったんだけど!やばくね?!ギャル
Lenzky-3
man I was like reading this comment and suddenly "Bats are cool cuz they spread rabies".. bro..
お主のそのコメント、読んでおったら突然「コウモリは狂犬病を撒き散らすからカッコいい」と来たでござる…某、思わずひっくり返り申した。武士
Se7en_Sinner
Bones Film experience with All For One's powers definitely helped with animating Toushiro's abilities.
まじでBones FilmがAll For Oneの能力で鍛えた経験、冬獅郎の技の作画に生きてるじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル
Frontier246
It really felt like this had transformed into MHA during that fight sequence lol.
あのバトルシーン、完全にMHAと化してて草生えたわwww2ちゃん
lalindu123
Yuataka nakamaura worked on this episode
Yuataka nakamamuraがこの話数に参加してたんだね普通くん
Dialaninja
You could definitely tell in that last attack sequence.
確かにあの最後の攻撃シーンには、並々ならぬ気迫が宿っておった。拙者も思わず息を呑んだでござる。武士
SidloCZ
holy I was wondering which goat did that sequence
あのシーンをやってのけた奴、誰だよって思ってたんだよな普通くん
Niwaka_Samurai
Yutapon cubes ❤️🔥
ゆたぽんキューブやばくね!?❤️🔥ギャル
AceSoldia
Lmao dude I was like..am..am I watching MHA?!
笑ったw マジで「これ…これMHA見てる!?」ってなったわwww感情くん
lhsakurai
Basically Bones main courses display in this episode. Great fight sequence
このエピソードはボンズの真骨頂って感じだったな。戦闘シーンがめちゃくちゃ良かった。普通くん
ModieOfTheEast
原文
And the power of love (and friendship) proves to be the strongest once more. Like, I know the trope but considering the general theme, I think it works quite well here. Especially with them saying that Gero mutated so quickly because of the amount of dates he had in so little time. Which is kind of funny that it's just taken seriously. Though, I guess there is some truth to it considering that you can only grow if you take this step and try to date in the first place instead of just waiting for things to happen to you. With the amount of near death moments, Kinosaki's relationship level definitely increased I would say. However, it was good that Arashiyama had her moment as well. We never found out where her brother went in the end, so that might be left for a future plot point. And we got another potential love interest added to the mix right at the end? A bit sad that we probably don't get much of the other girls in the final episode (as that seems to be the epilogue of Arashiyama's story) as I would really like to see what the potential ideas are in the future. I will say one last thing since I saw it glancing over the comments: I know it's easy to say that the beast master was overreacting from getting a bat as main pet. However, people need to remember that the main core of the series is the whole clan structure with expectations set by the family and every character in their own way burdened by these expectations (either because they can't fulfill them or think more is expected). And the beast master is no different. With all the expectations weighing on him, this moment felt to him like he was made fun of by the head of the clan. Not only was he not "worthy" but they showed this publicly. Like just look what huge as wolf his sister seemingly got. That is why he was trying so hard to show his worth to his family. Like with every person in this show, a big factor is that they are born into a family where it's not about bonds but the worth you can provide to it. And if they think you can't then you are replaced.
愛と友情の力が、またしても最強の証明を成し遂げたのだ。この展開自体はよくある型ではあるが、本作のテーマを鑑みるに、むしろ見事に調和していると言えよう。特に、ゲロが短期間のデート回数によって急速に変異したという設定は、妙に真面目に扱われているのが笑える。しかしながら、待つだけではなく自ら行動を起こすことでしか成長はあり得ないという真理が、そこには潜んでいるのだ。幾度もの死線を潜り抜けたことで、明らかにキノサキの関係値は上昇したと言える。だが、アラシヤマにも見せ場があったのは良かった。彼女の兄の行方は依然として不明であり、今後の伏線として残されているのだろう。そして最終盤で新たな恋の火花が放たれたか?最終話では他の少女たちの描写が少なくなるであろうことが少し哀しいが、それもアラシヤマの物語の幕引きという運命であろう。最後に一つ、獣使いがコウモリを主ペットにしたことに過剰反応したと評する声があるが、我々は忘れてはならない。この世界の根幹は一族の構造と、それに課せられた期待の重圧にあるのだ。彼もまた、その重荷に押し潰されそうになりながら、族長に嘲笑されたと感じたのである。妹が巨大な狼を得たという事実が、彼の焦燥をより一層深めたのだ。この作品の全ての者がそうであるように、彼もまた絆ではなく価値によって評価される家系に生まれたのだ。価値なしと見なされれば、即座に排除される世界中二病
Frontier246
原文
Maybe the greatest poison was the love and friendship we built along the way. I'm really curious about his sisters' perspective on him and what happened. Was he effectively passed over for her since she got a better animal than he did? Did all the killing and plots he perpetuated help set her up to take over? Were they close as siblings at all? What does she intend to do with him and Byakko? And is she single?
「もしかしたら最大の毒は、旅の途中で築いた愛と友情だったのかもしれないな」って感じだよね。彼の姉たちの視点が気になる。彼は実質的に姉に差をつけられてたのか?姉の方が良い動物を得たから?彼の殺戮や計画が、姉の後継者としての立場を固める助けになったのか?兄妹としての絆はあったのか?彼と白虎をどうするつもりなのか?そして、姉は独身なのか?普通くん
ModieOfTheEast
And is she single? I would take a wild guess and say yes. Question is just if Gero's white knight tactic could even work on her.
草、彼女独身なん?多分そうやろな。問題はGeroの白馬の王子作戦が通用するかどうかやけどなwww2ちゃん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
原文
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すみません、あなたのコメントは削除されました。これはスレッド上部の「原作ネタコーナー」に属する内容です。現在放送中のアニメの議論スレでは、原作・スピンオフ・作者コメント・未アニメ化内容の議論はそこに投稿してください。たとえ些細な比較でも同様です。あなたのコメントはネタバレではなく、原作ネタコーナー外での原作議論が理由で削除されました。質問があればこのメッセージに返信、modmailを送るか、メタスレッドにコメントしてください。ルールが不明ならこちらで確認を。普通くん
Misticsan
原文
However, people need to remember that the main core of the series is the whole clan structure with expectations set by the family and every character in their own way burdened by these expectations We already saw how Kimie was looked down on for being a hamster user... though the fact that her ancestors were respected for being mice users suggests that it isn't just about how tiny and harmless the animal is. Nevertheless, this is the common trend: family can be a curse on the Masters. Gero himself started his marriage quest as a way to save his sister from a forced marriage, because his family are also jerks in a different way. In that regard, the parallelisms between the two families are interesting. Gero and Tonako seem to have been the favored heirs, whereas Gero's sister and Toshiro were looked down on. But whereas this fueled Toshiro's hatred against his family, Gero and his sister remained each other's support. When Toshiro rails against "blood", memories of Akari make Gero disagree with him.
我が観察によれば、この物語の根幹は一族の構造そのものにある。各々が家の期待に縛られ、呪いのように背負い続ける運命。キミエがハムスター使いゆえに蔑まれた事実は、先祖がマウス使いで崇められた過去と対照的だ。動物の大小や無害さだけが問題ではないのだ。
つまり、家系こそがマスターたちを呪う枷。我が盟友ゲロウもまた、妹を強制結婚から救うべく婚姻の旅を始めた。彼の一族もまた、異なる形で歪んでいる。両家の相似性は実に興味深い。ゲロウとトナコは寵愛された後継者であり、その妹やトシロウは蔑まれた。だが、トシロウが憎悪に燃える一方、ゲロウと妹は互いを支え合った。血脈を呪うトシロウに対し、アカリの記憶がゲロウに反論させる。運命の分岐点、そこに真理が潜むのだ。中二病
Isekai_Dreamer
yea that's kinda annoying. power of frienshit.
確かにそれはちょっとイライラするな。友情パワーって感じだよね。普通くん
SnooSquirrels3291
From zero you say? Thanks Re- I mean Byakko
ゼロからって言うのかよ!?ありがとうレ… いや白虎!感情くん
Frontier246
And then the equivalent of a Sin Archbishop ruins the moment lol.
で、Sin Archbishopみたいなやつがその瞬間を台無しにしたってわけか笑普通くん
Direct-Hedgehog-595
She seems more sane and reasonable than any archbishops for the time being.
今のところ大司教連中よりこいつのがまともやん。2ちゃん
SternSupremacist
Who's Byakko?
ビャッコって誰だっけ?普通くん
SnooSquirrels3291
😱
やばくね!?これマジでヤバいんだけど!!😱ギャル
AceSoldia
🤣🤣
🤣🤣普通くん
Accurate_Treat6360
Virgin Toshiro : Bat is not worthy partner for a Beast Master. Chad Kimie : Hamster is my precious and irreplaceable partner.
草、童貞俊郎が「ハムスターはゴミ」って言ったらキミエが「ハムスターはワイの大事な相棒やぞ」ってマジギレしててワロタww
キミエのキャラ立ちすぎやろwww2ちゃん
Eunuchest
Beast Master is a fraud, how the hell do you lose with a damn Rinnegan in your head? That is some petty ass backstory. A bat isnt even on any list of lame animal sidekicks They sure replaced him quickly and with a baddy too.
ビーストマスターは完全に詐欺だろ。あんな輪廻眼を頭に持っててどうやって負けるんだよ。その過去設定もかなり低レベルだし。そもそもコウモリなんて弱いサイドキックのリストにも入ってないのに、即座にしかも美人キャラで代わりが来るってな。考察くん
Frontier246
A bat isnt even on any list of lame animal sidekicks Also even when he was defeated his bat partner who he basically traded for the blood of the entire animal kingdom still stood by his side and tried to protect him. They sure replaced him quickly and with a baddy too. Is she single and in need of a bodyguard? Asking for Gero here.
コウモリって全然ダサい動物サイドキックのリストに入ってないよね。それに、負けた後も動物界全部の血と引き換えにしたコウモリの相棒が彼のそばにいて守ろうとしてたんだぜ。あっさり入れ替えられた上に悪役と組むってね。彼女、独身でボディガード募集中?ゲロの代わりに聞いてるんだけど。普通くん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
Is she single and in need of a bodyguard? When you walk around with Fenrir, you probably don't need a bodyguard!
「この子、独身でボディーガード募集中?でもフェンリル連れて歩いてたらボディーガードいらないよね!」感情くん
AceSoldia
Right?! If she's not the next target what are we even doing. Damn
だよね?!彼女が次のターゲットじゃなかったら、何やってんだって話だよ。マジで。普通くん
AceSoldia
Lol he got replaced the instant he challenged Gero I guess they knew he'd lose 🤣
草www ガロに挑戦した瞬間に交代させられたンゴね🤣 負けるのわかってたんやろな2ちゃん
Direct-Hedgehog-595
That's actual hilarious. They didn't even wait for the battle to finish(or start depending on when they got the info) and they just appointed his sister as the new chief.
それマジで笑えるんだけど!笑 戦い終わるの待たずに(っていうか情報いつ入ったかによるけど)妹を新ボスに任命しちゃったってやばくね?ギャル
AceSoldia
Can you imagine how the conversation went lol "Beast Master is challenging Poison master!" "Ah shit..isn't he on a streak trying to get a bride?..why is he bothering Beast Master?!" "He abducted the hot Hamster Master!" "Oh he wilding..get his sister to replace him, don't wait..every master from now on must be a hot woman to save the bloodlines."
「ビーストマスターがポイズンマスターに挑戦してるってよ!」「あっやべ…あいつ花嫁探しで連勝中だろ?…なんでビーストマスターに絡んでるんだ?!」「ホットなハムスターマスターを拉致ったんだよ!」「おいおいヤバすぎるだろ…妹を代わりにしろ、待つな…これからは血統を守るため全マスターがホットな女性じゃないと」って会話、想像できる?笑普通くん
Direct-Hedgehog-595
I could actually see that happening. If you can't beat them, assimilate them lol
「それあり得るわ。勝てないなら吸収しろってか笑」
確かに納得。面白すぎる発想だし、そういう展開見てみたいッ!感情くん
Complex-Mud6288
For him it's pretty much spitting on his face that he is not capable of leading the Dogo clan. Worked his way towards the top expecting a head role only for the board to tell you the best they can do is give you an admin role. "I'm sorry but your sister is a better fit to lead the clan"
彼にとっては、自分が土御門家を率いる器ではないと平然と突きつけられるようなものだよな。トップを目指して這い上がったのに、取締役会から「お前には管理職が関の山だ」と言われる。「すみませんが、あなたの妹の方が家を継ぐのに適任です」ってな。これはまさに、1話から張られていた伏線が回収された形だ。彼のプライドと実力の乖離が、この決定的な場面で浮き彫りになった。考察くん
diacewrb
A bat isnt even on any list of lame animal sidekicks He should have taken inspiration from Batman.
いやいや、コウモリって全然ダサい動物サイドキックのリストに入ってないじゃん!てか、バットマンからインスパイア受ければよかったのにね笑ギャル
TheBusStop12
He did make sure all the elders in his family were dead immediately afterwards. I guess that was the wrong part of Batmans character to focus on
「その後すぐに自分の家族の年長者を全員殺したんだよな……バットマンのキャラでそこを真似するのは間違いだったんじゃないか?」←マジでそれな!!笑うとこじゃないけど笑ったわw感情くん
NiCommander
More like Man-bat
どっちかっていうとマンバットだな普通くん
LeonKevlar
原文
Tonako Dogo Jesus fucking Christ, Bones! The fight scene between Toushiro and Gero was so goddamn cool! I'm glad to see they're putting their MHA experience to good use, especially when Gero finally landed his finishing blow! I am glad to see that Kimie managed to get through to the other Beast Masters and manage to assist Gero in the fight. I just feel bad for them, considering they've already lost their partners after what Toushirou did to them 😢 So the reason Toushirou became who he is was because he was given a vampire bat? Really? I mean, I get that it's probably an insult compared to how majestic his sister's partner is , but a swarm of vampire bats would atually be terrifying. Speaking of Toushirou's sister, god daaaaaaaaaaamn! Not only does she have a cool giant wolf as a partner, but she's also a goddamn baddie. Hopefully, she's more peaceful compared to her brother. The Beast Clan is quick to appoint a new head tho.
東郷トナカ…まさかのBONES、東獅郎vsゲロの戦闘シーンが神がかってたな!MHAの経験が活かされてるのは明らかで、特にゲロの決め技が炸裂した瞬間の演出が秀逸だった。君枝が他のビーストマスターたちとコンタクトを取り、ゲロをサポートできたのも重要なポイント。ただ、東獅郎の仕業でパートナーを失った彼らを思うと胸が痛む😢
東獅郎がこうなった理由がコウモリを与えられたからっていうのは興味深い考察を呼ぶ。姉の荘厳なパートナーと比べて明らかに侮辱的な扱いだが、コウモリの大群が実際にどれほど恐ろしいか考えると、むしろ逆転の伏線かもしれない。
そして東獅郎の姉…ただの巨大狼パートナー持ちじゃなくて、ビジュアルも圧倒的だな。兄より平和主義な方向性であることを願う。ビーストクランの新頭首選出が早すぎる点も、今後の展開の布石だろう。考察くん
Frontier246
Toshiro deserved that beatdown for all the animals he killed and stole from their partners but honestly his bat partner seems like a real ride or die despite everything. I love how we're closing the season out on one last baddie waifu we wouldn't mind Gero exchanging contact info with.
トシローは動物殺したり仲間から盗んだりしたしボコられて当然やろwww でもこうもり相棒はマジで最後まで味方してくれて好感持てるンゴねえ。最終回目前でまたゲロと連絡先交換してもええ感じの悪女枠出してくるの草。2ちゃん
ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp
Oh no, she's hot!
やばい、彼女めっちゃ可愛い!感情くん
FarCritical
The animation of Gero landing that kick while triple dosed up was too clean. There's just something about the masters making their partners' cries to put their spirits to rest that got to me, man. Byakko's loyalty was pretty up there too.
ゲロがトリプルドーズ状態であのキックを決めた時の作画、めっちゃ綺麗だったわ。師匠たちがパートナーの叫びを鎮魂のために使うって設定がなんかグッときたんだよな。白虎の忠誠心も相当高かったね。普通くん
Frontier246
Also that face smash was animated so well and cathartically. You really felt the impact!
あの顔面スマッシュのアニメーション、めっちゃ良くない!?しかもすごいカタルシス感じたし、まじで衝撃が伝わってきたじゃん!ギャル
VelociCastor
原文
Just to clarify, since I see some people being confused, Toshiro wasn't the actual head of the Beast Clan. He was part of the main family that controls the rest of the beast clan (the Dogos), so he's called a Beast Master. Similar to how the Gero family controls the Poison Clan. It's confusing since Tonako introduces herself as having just been made the new head, but she doesn't mean she got picked today, just that it hasn't been that long since she was appointed, so Gero wouldn't know her.
一応補足しとくけど、戸城は獣使い一族の本当の頭じゃないンゴ。彼は獣使い一族(ドーゴス)を支配する本家の一員で、だから獣使いって呼ばれてるんや。毒使い一族の下呂家が支配してるのと同じ感じやな。トナコが「新しく頭になった」って自己紹介してるから混乱するけど、今日選ばれたわけじゃなくて、任命されてからまだ日が浅いから下呂が知らんってだけやで。2ちゃん
KumaKumaGambler
原文
Kimie should have been one of the leaders or the spokesperson for the Beast Clan. She knows her hamsters are nowhere near the strongest, yet she completely trusts them as her animal partner. Whereas Toshiro doubted his bat partner and yearned for more power. Is Tonako going to be a potential marriage partner for Gero? I swear this title keeps upping the stakes for newly introduced female characters. Lol!
君江は獣使い一族のリーダーかスポークスパーソンになるべきだったんじゃないか。彼女は自分のハムスターたちが最強からは程遠いことを理解しつつも、完全に信頼してパートナーにしている。一方で敏郎はコウモリのパートナーに疑念を抱き、より強い力を渇望していた。十和子はゲロの結婚相手候補になるのか?この作品、新しく登場する女性キャラほど重要度が増してる気がするんだよな(笑)。考察くん
Equivalent-Weather59
You can always count on Bones to give you amazing action animation holy
ボーンズはいつも最高のアクション作画を見せてくれるからな、神。普通くん
FarCritical
Bones animators were on triple dose themselves fr
ボーンズのアニメーター、まじでトリプル投与されてたんじゃね!?笑ギャル
earhere
I think Gero should marry the new Beast Clan leader lady
ゲロは新獣族のリーダー女と結婚すべきやろなあwww2ちゃん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
Or the wolf
「狼だね」って感じだよな普通くん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
原文
The winner is the one who's got the deeper, darker bloodlust? I thought it was the one with the sharper fangs! YOU LIED TO ME, ANIME! Does it only work with injuries and stuff? Technically, growing old also means getting closer to death! He could be one of these badass 90 years old we see in action shows! When your opponent in a PVP game pulls gacha during the match She's the only one he should've eaten to be honest I want... You to join our idol group! Hah, I thought something was off when we went a full 20 minutes without a bridal carry! We were missing something! I wasn't expecting the [title] Spice&Wolf crossover! So she's the new head of the Beast clan... ...And his childhood friend (right?) (And his next love interest?)
勝者はより深く、より暗い殺戮衝動を持つ者なのか?俺は牙が鋭い方が勝者だと思ってた!騙されたぞ、アニメ!怪我とかでしか発動しないのか?技術的には、老化も死に近づくことを意味する!彼はアクション作品に出てくるような、90歳の凄腕ジジイになれるかもしれない!PVPゲームで対戦相手が試合中にガチャを引いてるようなものだ。正直、彼が食べるべき唯一の相手は彼女だったんだ。「私と一緒にアイドルグループに入りませんか?」ああ、20分も花嫁抱っこがなかったから変だと思ったんだ!何か足りなかったんだな!まさかタイトルに『狼と香辛料』のクロスオーバーが来るとは思わなかった!つまり彼女が獣族の新しい長か…そして彼の幼なじみで(だよな?)(そして次の恋愛対象?)考察くん
zer0number
Hah, I thought something was off when we went a full 20 minutes without a bridal carry! We were missing something! This show has introduced me to a lot of new concepts, and now naked girl bridal carrying half dead vampire is one of them.
草www 20分もお姫様抱っこなかったからなんか変だと思ったわ!やっぱりな!このアニメのおかげで色々新しい概念知ったわ、半死のヴァンパイアを裸の女がお姫様抱っこしてる光景とか初めてやwww2ちゃん
Frontier246
It's a gender reversal and peak fanservice all at the same time!
性転換×最高のファンサービスが同時に来た!優勝すぎるッ!感情くん
VoidRay728
You know it's going to be a banger episode when they slot in an extra lore dump segment before rolling in the usual intro. And what a satisfying takedown Gero gave to the Beast Master. Also, imagine if in the Beast Clan coming-of-age ritual they had to assign a larger animal like an elephant to the kid. That room is surely not big enough.
通常のオープニング前に追加の設定説明パートが入ると神回確定だよな。しかもゲロウのビーストマスター戦、めっちゃスッキリする倒し方だった。そういや獣族の成人儀式で、もし子供にゾウみたいな大きな動物を割り当てられたらどうなるんだろう。あの部屋じゃ絶対狭すぎるだろ。普通くん
ifticar2
The assigned partner is probably a baby so that the kid and the animal can grow up together
草、相手が赤ちゃんってガチで草生えるわwww
子供と動物を一緒に育てさせるって発想がえぐいやん2ちゃん
Frontier246
You know it's going to be a banger episode when they slot in an extra lore dump segment before rolling in the usual intro. It was surprisingly effective lead-in too. And what a satisfying takedown Gero gave to the Beast Master. The best part was Arashiyama's winning smile for her invaluable contribution.
いつものOP前に追加の設定説明パートが入ると神回の予感しかしないんだけど。あれが意外と効果的な導入になってたね。それにゲロウがビーストマスターを倒すシーンはめっちゃスカッとしたわ。何より良かったのは、貴重な貢献をした嵐山の勝利の笑顔だな。普通くん
Luiiss26
I don't know what happens in the next episode, but the fact that Hikaru or Piichi didn't kill Dogo is, as things stand, a major plot hole in the series. I understand Hikaru's stance on not killing masters, but someone else could have done it at that moment—after all, he is pure evil.
次回どうなるか知らんけど、ヒカルとピーイチがドーゴを殺さなかった時点で話の穴やろ。ヒカルがマスター殺さないスタンスなのは分かるけど、あの瞬間に誰かがやっとけば良かったやん。あいつ純粋な悪やしな。2ちゃん
Frontier246
I think Piichi still intended to kill him after he got all the info out of Dogo. That's why he was still holding his knife.
確かに!ピーチ、ドーゴから情報引き出した後も殺すつもりだったっぽいよね。だってまだナイフ持ってたじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル
shrek3onDVDandBluray
“Why am I still alive?” I’m asking the same thing Toshigoro. Shit bag deserved to die. I kinda get sick of the whole “I won’t kill” thing. Gero is known to only kill those and take jobs he feels are deserving and yet he let this absolute scum bag live…guy who’s been abducting, killing, and torturing his own clan members are scores of others.
「なんで俺まだ生きてんの?」って歳五郎と同じことワイも思ったわ。あのクズは死んで当然やろ。もう「殺さない」ってポリシーにうんざりしてきたンゴ。ゲロは殺すに値する相手だけ始末するってのに、こんなクソ野郎——自分の仲間を拉致って殺して拷問してきた外道を生かすとか…マジでありえへんわ。2ちゃん
Solracziad
That's just how Shounen battle shows are. The protagonist never kills. Even a guy whose job is literally to kill people for money via poison.
少年バトルものってそういうもんだよね。主人公は絶対に殺さない。毒で金をもらって人を殺すのが仕事の奴でさえもね。普通くん
shrek3onDVDandBluray
Eren Yeager Light Yagami Yusuke Urameshi Gon from Hunter x Hunter To name a few.
エレン・イェーガーに夜神月、幽助、ゴンとかやろ。ちょっと挙げただけやけど、みんな狂っとるンゴwww2ちゃん
unga_bunga_mage
Beast dude is way too dangerous to leave alive. Like damn Gero, he's gonna be back and you'll regret it.
ビーストのやつ生き残らせるのは危険すぎるだろ。もう、ゲロさんよ、絶対戻ってくるし後悔するって。普通くん
JJVM99
原文
I complain about the fights last episode and get immediately proven wrong this episode as it showed they were saving budget to make this fight really good. Best and most visually impressive fight in the series by far. Toshiro may have been mad about it but a bat did fit him very well considering his future work with collecting and combining blood from other masters and members of his clan. I was concerned when they mentioned his poison would kill anyone he touched that it may potentially lead him to be unable to touch anyone directly from now on without killing them but while I doubt it’s always active Gero’s kindness has made his poison a non-issue. Thankfully he will be able to touch and hold Kinosaki as much as he wants and we wish too see. New beast master is a cool wolf lady. Gero just ask her on a date out of nowhere. I know it doesn’t fit you at all and Arashiyama and Kinosaki are right there but still it would be shocking and funny.
前回の戦闘シーンに不満を言ったら、今週の話で予算を温存してたのが証明されたな。シリーズ中最も視覚的に印象的な戦いだった。トシロウは怒ってたけど、彼の今後の活動——他の使い手や一族から血を集めて結合する——を考えると、コウモリの能力はよく合ってたと思う。彼の毒について「触れただけで殺す」と言われた時、今後直接誰にも触れられなくなるのではと心配したが、常時発動とは限らないし、ゲロウの優しさで毒が問題にならなくなったのはありがたい。これでキノサキを好きなだけ触って抱きしめられる。我々もそれを望む。新しいビーストマスターはクールな狼の女性だ。ゲロウが突然デートに誘ったのは驚いたが、彼には似合わないし、アラシヤマとキノサキがいるとはいえ、もし実現したら衝撃的で面白い展開になるだろう。考察くん
Frontier246
原文
Gero has reached the pinnacle of his body as a Poison Master! All his fights across this season for the sake of others has given him the experience he needed to involve and create the ultimate poison within himself! And he's ready to unleash it on Toshiro! Hydra-Moles! That's a new one! You have to admire the creative animal combos if nothing else. Hundred-Beast Stampede! How is Gero going to survive against an attack that unleashes basically the entire animal kingdom on Gero in one blast...but Gero is fighting with the power of his search for happiness, all the friends and lovely ladies he met along the way, and his desire to find that special someone with Kinosaki. And as his body has turned into a corporal kodoku who can unleash the ultimate poison in one single burst of poison...SINGLE UNLIMITED BURST! I guess I have to respect Dogo being willing to throw away his humanity and become a true beast chimera if it means killing Gero, but his own bloodlust does him in as he charges at Gero head on...and Gero just jumps over him to tap him with poison! And you know you're screwed when you start losing all your senses and are basically running blind! This was all basically Toshiro's rage out against the beast clan, as such he'll rage out at Gero beating him by trying to eat his friends and Kinosaki...but he made another mistake! He underestimated the power of the Beast Masters, of Arashiyama, and the bonds the Beast Masters have with the animal companions he consumed! They all arrive thanks to Arashiyama to call forth their animal partners and stop Dogo in his tracks! All so Gero can unleash the coup de grace of smashing his head into the floor. Gero's not going to kill Toshiro because he's not fighting with rage or a desire to kill, because it's his humanity through his sister and the people he's come to know that defines Gero, not being a Poison Master or assassin. He'd rather work on DIY candy kits or get dating advice from Kinosaki. The irony that Toshiro went so far, killed a lot of the Beast Clan, because he felt being given a Bat as his animal partner was a personal insult to someone who should've been leader of the clan...even though the bat is the only person still standing beside him in the end. Well, the bat and a still alive (and still naked) Byakko. But neither of them get very far before they get caught in the jar of a giant wolf...from the new head of the Beast Clan, a beautiful, alluring, woman in black who is none other than Tonako Dogo...Toshiro's sister!
ゲロが毒使いとしての頂点に達したな!今シーズンの戦い全部が、他人のために戦った経験が彼の中で究極の毒を生み出す糧になったんだ。そしてそれをトシロウに叩き込む準備完了!ハイドラ・モールズって新しいな!少なくとも動物の組み合わせの創造性は認めざるを得ない。百獣スタンピード!あの攻撃、実質動物王国全部を一発でぶつけてくるようなもんじゃん…でもゲロは幸せを探す力、出会った仲間や素敵な女性たち、そしてキノサキと一緒に特別な誰かを見つけたいって気持ちで戦ってる。そして彼の体は究極の毒を一気に放つことができる具現化したコドクと化した…シングル・アンリミテッド・バースト!ドウゴウが人間性を捨てて真の獣キメラになる覚悟には敬意を払うけど、真っ向勝負で突っ込んでゲロに飛び越えられて毒を叩き込まれるのは自滅だな。感覚を失って盲目で走るしかなくなった時点で詰みだよ!これはトシロウの獣一族への怒りの爆発だったんだろう。友人やキノサキを食べようとしてゲロに負ける…でもまたミスった!ビーストマスターズの力、嵐山の力、そして彼が吸収した動物たちとの絆を甘く見てたんだ!嵐山の呼びかけで全員が駆けつけてドウゴウを止める!その隙にゲロがトシロウの頭を床普通くん
ProfessionalOwn9435
Good enought. We have Kimie break the shackles moment. We had spirit over power as good samurai shonen commands. We have friendship is magic moment. And we swap beast master to araara master.
やばくね!?キミエが枷をぶっ壊す瞬間きたし、正統派サムライ少年漫画の精神がパワーに勝つ展開もあって、友情は魔法って感じのシーンも最高じゃん!しかもビーストマスターからアラアラマスターにチェンジってまじで天才じゃね!?笑ギャル
Emi_Ibarazakiii
原文
Reading the comments, I think some people may be misinterpreting something! He wasn't really angry because "he got a weak animal", he was angry for what that animal represents, i.e. they didn't want him as a leader and all! To make a comparison: It's like if the general gives you/the other officers some stripes, and you get 1 stripe while the others get 2, 3, 4... You're not mad because you think more stripes look prettier, you're mad because you're a sargeant while the others are majors and colonels!
コメント読んでると、ちょっと誤解してる人いるかも!彼が怒ってたのは「弱い動物もらったから」じゃなくて、その動物が象徴してるもの=つまりリーダーとして認められなかったことに対してなんだよね。例えるなら、将官が階級章を配って、自分だけ1つで他の人が2つ、3つ…ってなった感じ。階級章の見た目が気に入らないんじゃなくて、自分だけ少佐や大佐で他が将官って差を突きつけられたのが腹立つってことだよ!普通くん
SnabDedraterEdave
原文
So Beast Master Toshiro's rebellion and nefarious experiments all stems from an inferior complex of being given a bat, a supposedly weak beast, as his partner? He probably has never read Batman. Gero has managed to harness his ultimate skill to the point that he can control whether his blood is lethal or not to his opponent. Ever since recruiting Kinosaki to help him with his quest to find himself a bride, Gero has not killed anyone since that gang boss in the beginning of episode 1, and he does not intend to go back to killing. Arashiyama's effort to persuade the other minor beast masters was not in vain, as she appealed to their kinship with their fallen partners, whose spirits still reside inside Toshiro's Hyakko chimera form. By having them all call out to their spirits, Toshiro can no longer move his chimera form and is finally beaten Looks like Toshiro isn't in full control of the main Beast Clan, as it turns out they've decided to depose Toshiro and installed his sister Tonako as the new Beast Master, with her majestic white wolf familiar. But with one episode remaining this season, it looks like Tonako is probably just going to offer a truce to Gero and Piichi as thanks for them defeating Toshiro. You don't just introduce one of the Five Great Families and then destroy them so easily, after all.
なるほど、獣王トシロウの反乱と非道な実験の根源は、相棒に「弱い獣」とされる蝙蝠を与えられたことによる劣等感だったのか。彼はバットマンを読んだことがないのだろう。ゲロウは自身の血液を相手に対して致死性にするかどうか制御できる域にまで奥義を極めている。キノサキを花嫁探しに引き入れて以降、ゲロウは第1話冒頭のギャングボス以来、誰も殺しておらず、殺しに戻るつもりもない。
アラシヤマが他の下位獣王たちを説得しようとした努力は無駄ではなかった。彼女は彼らの亡き相棒との絆に訴えかけ、その魂がトシロウのヒャッコ合成獣の中にまだ宿っていることを示した。全員に魂へ呼びかけるよう促すことで、トシロウは合成獣を操れなくなり、ついに敗北した。
トシロウが獣の主要部族を完全に掌握していたわけではないようだ。彼らはトシロウを廃し、荘厳な白狼の使い魔を連れた妹トナコを新たな獣王に据えることを決定した。しかし今季も残り1話。トナコはおそらく、トシロウ打倒への感謝としてゲロウとピーチに休戦を申し出るだけだろう。五大名家を紹介しておいて簡単に潰すわけがない。考察くん
Ocixo
Upon first impression, Tonako doesn’t look the type that to pick a fight with Gero and Piichi no. I’d also put my money on her trying to strike some kind of deal. Though, I cannot quite tell what she’ll do with Toshiro and Byakko. Execute them as a peace offering?
トナコは一目見た感じ、ゲロやピーチと喧嘩するタイプには見えないな。何か取引を持ちかけようとしてる気がする。でもトシロウとビャッコに対してはどうするつもりかよくわからない。和平の証として処刑するのかな?普通くん
SnabDedraterEdave
Gero being the hero that he is, will most likely plea mercy for them. He'll be in a position to make such a request as he just beat the Beast Clan's previous leader, so they are wary of pissing off the rest of the Poison Clan (Even though they don't yet know whether the Poison Clan approves of Gero's new approach in life)
ゲロが英雄らしく、彼らに慈悲を乞う展開になる可能性が高い。彼は獣族の前リーダーを倒したばかりだからこそ、そうした要請ができる立場にある。毒族全体がゲロの新しい生き方を認めているかはまだ不明だが、それでも相手側は毒族を刺激するのを恐れていると考察できる。考察くん
rat_infestation
原文
The animation on the final Gero ult was honestly immaculate. I know this show is less about the fights and more about the friends Gero makes along the way, but interjecting a fight with backstory after every blow traded got a bit tiring this episode and even in the previous one. The fight against Water Master was a lot more satisfying to me because it was continuous, I wish they do a bit more of that in the future (like in Demon Slayer Entertainment District, the fight was a continuous 5 episode fight and then a dedicated backstory episode, made everything flow much better imo)
最後のゲロの奥義、作画ガチで綺麗すぎィ!このアニメは戦闘より友情がメインなのは分かってるンゴけど、一撃ごとに過去話挟むのは前回からちょっとダレたわ。水マスター戦の方が連続してて満足感あったンゴね。今後は鬼滅の遊郭編みたいに戦闘は通しでやって、回想は別枠でまとめてくれた方が流れ良くなると思うンゴwww2ちゃん
DemonWraith2500
Even the scum villain has a cute naked girl try to save him when Hikaru is forever alone. This world is so wrong.
ヒカルはずっと孤独なのに、クズ悪役には可愛い裸の女の子が助けに来るのかよ。この世界間違ってるわ。普通くん
Frontier246
If you're getting princess carried by an attractive naked woman you must have done something right in your life.
草ァ!美女に裸でお姫様抱っこされるって人生の勝ち組やんwww2ちゃん
HolyDragSwd2500
Beast Master new head of the clan arrives 🥰
ビーストマスターの新当主キターー!🥰 やばくね!?超かわよ!ギャル
NanDemoKnaives
原文
I'm not surprised Gero didn't kill Toushirou, when it kept being highlighted that he manifests what it does, it felt like Gero's personality would override the lethality. I do wonder if it's incurable, will Toushirou just always be poisoned by Gero? Like Gero can just will his death and the poison in him will turn lethal? Just an idea. I did wonder if the prisoners would be the ones to kill him, he did take their partners and had them locked up. I also wonder if Toushirou will ever learn the real reason he was given a bat, quite the overreaction he had for not getting a big beast. Byakko running away with Toushirou did feel like a "Toushirou is going to get taken out by a third party" vibe, but I wasn't expecting his sister to be the one that turns up lol. She's got that head of clan presence for sure.
ゲロがトウシロウを殺さなかったのは予想通りやな。自分の性質を具現化するって強調されてたし、ゲロの性格が殺意を上回った感じやわ。治らない毒なら、ゲロが「死ね」って念じたら即死するってことなん?ワイも囚人たちに殺される展開考えてたわ。女連れ去って監禁してたしな。あとトウシロウがなぜバットを渡されたか真実を知る日が来るんかね。デカい獣もらえなかっただけで大げさすぎやろ。白虎がトウシロウ連れて逃げた時は「第三者に始末される流れか」と思ったけど、まさか妹が出てくるとは草。あの姉ちゃん、確かに一族の頭領って風格あるわ。2ちゃん
Current_Tune821
The famous Yutaka Nakamura artstyle at 15:57
15:57の中村豊節、めっちゃ分かる普通くん
Ocixo
Toshiro has been so fixated on getting revenge that he’s lost sight of the gorgeous girl who’s stood with him for all this time. This man should just quiet being an assassin, start a happy family with Byakko, and try to make amends for his wrongdoing.
俊郎は復讐に固執しすぎて、ずっと共に立ってきた美しい少女・白虎の存在を見失っている。この男は暗殺者をやめて白虎と幸せな家庭を築き、過ちを償うべきだというのが私の考察だ。考察くん
kryslogan
All that yapping, ultimate power move yada yada for absolutely nothing at the end. Poison that does nothing? Waste of time. And the girl runs through all of those people nakid with no commotion before and is able to go faster than Gero? Pure plot pis. The animation was awesome but, the story is always lacking. I've mostly enjoyed this but this kind of nothing burger episode is a waste of time.
あれだけベラベラ喋って最強の切り札とか言っといて結局無意味かよ草。毒とか効かねえし時間の無駄やん。しかもあの女、全裸で人混みすり抜けて騒ぎも起こさずGeroより速く走れるってガチでご都合主義すぎやろ。作画は神だったけどストーリーはいつも通り微妙やな。今までは楽しめてたけど今回のなんもない回はマジで時間の無駄やったわ。2ちゃん
PeaceAlien
Loved the fight, did Gero ult? Was that a one-off? It did require a triple dose. For the theme of kill or kiss, it's very much kiss no killing from Gero
めっちゃ好きこの戦い!ゲロさん奥の手使った!?あれ一回限りなの!?しかもトリプル投与必要だったし。殺すかキスかのテーマ的に、ゲロさんは「キス一択、殺しはナシ」って感じだな!エモすぎるッ!感情くん
Frontier246
You know this is a Battle Shonen when you unleash a special move/finisher with some hand movements in a heightened state battle mode.
草、戦闘モードで手動かしながら必殺技ぶっ放す時点で完全にバトル少年漫画やんwww2ちゃん
ObvsThrowaway5120
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For a moment, I honestly thought Gero hit bro with the ol “omae wa mou shindeiru” after unleashing that godtier poisoned blood attack. Turned out he just whooped him with the classic power of teamwork. I guess bro just got replaced as head of the clan. All that death and destruction because he was feeling insecure about his itty bitty wittle bat? Dude. You would think folks in the beast clan would realize sometimes the smallest animals can be the deadliest. Keen to see how things play out next week. Should be the finale ep iirc.
一瞬、ガロが毒血の技で「お前はもう死んでいる」をやったのかと思ったわ。結局はお馴染みのチームワークパワーで倒しただけだったけど。で、兄貴は氏族の長の座を追われたと。あの大量虐殺の原因が自分のコウモリの小ささへの劣等感って…。獣族の連中も、小さい動物ほど危険だってことを学べよな。来週がどうなるか楽しみ。確か最終回のはず。普通くん
ModieOfTheEast
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All that death and destruction because he was feeling insecure about his itty bitty wittle bat? Dude. You would think folks in the beast clan would realize sometimes the smallest animals can be the deadliest. I think you need to see this in the wider context of the theme of clans and family. The beast master was meant to be the next head of the clan. But not only did they choose his sister over him (which would already be an "insult" in such a male dominated hierarchy), but they even made a "show" out of it by giving his sister a beautiful animal while he got a sickly looking bat. Yes, this bat was meant to be an insult to him. I think there are no ways around it. So it's less about him feeling insecure. It's that he felt he was seen as "unworthy", that he lacked the abilities to be the next head while also being shunned now by the rest of the family due to this "public execution" of his pride. Basically, he felt like he wasn't even seen as a worthy member of the family in the first place and therefore wanted to prove that this is not the case through his plan. That is why he still bonded with Byakko as well, because she also was more or less shunned by the rest of the beast clan.
あの大量の死と破壊、たかが自分の小さなコウモリにコンプレックスを抱いたからって? いやいや。獣族の連中なら、小さな生き物ほど危険だって気づくべきだろう。
しかし、これは氏族と家族というテーマの広い文脈で捉える必要がある。獣使いは本来、次期族長の座に就くはずだった。ところが、あの男尊女卑的な階級社会で「侮辱」とも言える妹の選出に加え、妹には美しい動物を与え、自分には病気じみたコウモリを渡すという「見せしめ」まで行われた。このコウモリは明らかに彼への侮辱であり、解釈の余地はないと思われる。
つまり、単なる不安感の問題ではない。彼は「無価値」と見なされ、族長になる能力がないと判断され、さらにこの公開処刑とも言えるプライドの粉砕によって家族からも疎外されたと感じたのだ。根本的に、彼は家族の一員としてすら認められていないと感じ、その誤りを証明しようとした。だからこそ白虎とも絆を結べた——彼女もまた、獣族から多かれ少なかれ疎まれていたからだ。考察くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
I guess I’m just thinking they could’ve stuck him with an earthworm if they wanted to make him feel really inadequate. A bat is still a relatively adequate beast. It’s no “majestic” tiger or lion or whatever, but it’s far from being as weak as it’s made out to be in the context of the show.
ワイの考えやと、どうせならミミズとかにしとけばよかったのにって思うわ。コウモリでもまだそこそこマシやろ。虎とかライオンみたいな「威厳ある」やつには劣るけど、作中で言われてるほど弱くもないやん。2ちゃん
FluorescenceFuture
i think the point is that the Dogo family saw it as weak but it's actually not weak since having bloodsucker powers is the reason Toshiro was able to turn into a whole ass chimera
土御門家は血喰いの力を弱いと思ってたけど、実際は全然弱くないってことだよね。実際その力があったからこそ俊郎があんなキメラに変身できたんだし。普通くん