放送 2026-09-01更新 2026-09-04
CitronClassic672
It’s a small detail, but I really love how much wholesome hugging and physical affection is in this show. I think different cultural standards make such things a bit less common in anime vs western media and so I’m always happy to see it. It always really stands out as a light in the darkness and pain of this series.
些細なことやけど、このアニメのハグやスキンシップの多さガチで好きやわ。文化の違いでアニメってこういうの少なめやから、西側の作品と比べると余計に嬉しくなるンゴ。このシリーズの闇と苦しみの中で、そういうシーンが光みたいに映るんよな。2ちゃん
BosuW
That difference probably gets lost in the cultural divide. I imagine for Japanese viewers, how intimate the students in this Institute are with each other really highlights even more how deeply they value their every moment together.
その違いはおそらく文化の壁で伝わりにくいんだろうね。日本の視聴者にとっては、この学院の生徒たちがどれだけ親密に接しているかが、彼らが一瞬一瞬をどれだけ大切にしているかをより強く際立たせてると思うよ。普通くん
messem10
really love how much wholesome hugging and physical affection is in this There are a few manga that are starting to include this these days. Main one being a certain title available on MangaPlus, which is an official manga app/site from Shueisha.
この作品に健全なハグや身体的な愛情表現がこれだけ多く含まれているのが本当に良いよね。最近はこういう描写を取り入れ始めた漫画も増えてきたんだけど、代表的なのは集英社の公式アプリ・サイトであるMangaPlusで読める特定のタイトルだな。考察くん
CitronClassic672
What’s the name?
タイトルなに！？教えてくれよ〜！！感情くん
messem10
[The manga is] Stop! I’m Falling For You . Here is the official link to chapter 1. As usual with MangaPlus titles, the chapters between the first few and the last 3 ones released are only in the app and are a “view once for free” deal.
漫画は『きみが死ぬまで恋をしたい』だよ。第1話の公式リンクはこれ。MangaPlus作品だとお決まりだけど、最初の数話と最新3話以外はアプリ限定で「1回無料視聴」扱いになってるね。普通くん
shewy92
I never really thought of that but it is pretty rare to see so many displays of affection in anime, which leads to all sorts of overdone embarrassment tropes. Here it's just natural.
ワイもそこまで考えたことなかったわ。でも確かにアニメであんなに愛情表現ガンガン見せるの珍しいよな。それが原因で過剰な照れイベントとかテンプレ量産されるんやろ。これだと自然に流れてて草。2ちゃん
Zeph-Shoir
Even outside of affection, whenever I see a character cry in anime or any media and they don't get hugged by whoever is with them I am screaming inside for them to do so. I don't understand seeing someone cry without the urge to hug them.
愛情云々抜きにしても、アニメやなんかでキャラが泣いてるのに、そばにいる人がハグしてくれないと、心の中で「ハグしろよ！」って叫んでるわ。泣いてる人を見てハグしたいと思わないのが理解できないんだよな。普通くん
zazakmazak
原文
Yeah, it only kinda worked out for Mimi cause she was made immortal when so young and then kept away from people, so although still pretty unrealistic, she didn't really age mentally nor thought too hard about stuff. Also we learned today it worked out only because her mother was a powerful healer, so no resurrections for anyone for the time being. Except maybe from Sheena one day, if she completes her training, feels like author setting up something for the very end of the story.
うむ、ミミが成し得たのは、幼き日に永遠の命を得て人々から隔絶されたが故の奇跡に過ぎぬ。精神的成長もままならず、深く思索することもなかったからこそ、現実離れしていながらも成り立ったのだ。また、本日判明したのは、彼女の母が強力な治癒者であったが故の偶然に過ぎず、現時点で他者の復活は不可能よ。されど、シーナが修行を完遂せし時、物語の終焉に何かを仕掛けておる気配を感じるのだ。中二病
Smoker81
I think is the clear set up for healing Mimi making her mortal again.
ミミを人間に戻して癒すための明確な伏線だと思うんだよね。普通くん
Swampy260
Yeah that seems like the obvious direction this show is going. I just hope they can end the war before then.
ふむ、この物語の行く末は明白でござるな。願わくば、その前に戦を終わらせて欲しいものでござる。武士
dude_1818
Realistically, a lot of growing up mentally is triggered by hormones her body will never produce, and it also seems reasonable to me that her regeneration dampens her neuroplasticity as her brain keeps resetting to how it was when she first woke back up
現実的に考えて、精神的な成長の多くは彼女の体が決して生成しないホルモンによって引き起こされる。そして、彼女の再生能力が神経可塑性を弱めているというのも合理的だと思われる。というのも、彼女の脳は目覚めた当初の状態にリセットされ続けるからだ。考察くん
rainbowrobin
OTOH, not like she forgets stuff she's been learning.
いやいや、忘れるわけないじゃん！ずっと学んでることだし、完璧に覚えてるって！笑ギャル
Emi_Ibarazakiii
原文
the more I thought about it, the more the implications of the magic bothered me: what happens if Seiran gets captured by the enemy, they discover she's immortal, and then they do all sorts of inhumane shit I'm not going to explicitly name? Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but... For Mimi; I was talking about this in another comment, now that Mimi experienced loss, I feel like it will affect her in one of two ways, either she won't want to fight anymore (because it's so horrible), OR the opposite, she'll want to fight even harder, to prevent other of her friends from dying... But if it's the latter, she may push too far/take risks because she can't die, and might find herself captured or something similar
考えれば考えるほど、その魔法の影響が気になってきたんだ：もしセイランが敵に捕まって、不死身だってバレたら、想像もしたくないような非人道的なことをされるんじゃないかって？ああ、同じこと考えてたよ、でも…ミミについてなんだけど、他のコメントでも話してたんだけど、ミミが喪失を経験した今、彼女には2つの影響のどちらかが出ると思うんだ。戦うのが嫌になるか（あまりにも残酷だから）、またはその逆で、他の友達を死なせないために、もっと強く戦おうとするか。もし後者なら、死ねないことを利用して無理をしすぎたり、危険を冒しすぎて、捕まったりするかもしれないけどね。普通くん
extralie
But if it's the latter, she may push too far/take risks because she can't die, and might find herself captured or something similar I mean, with the way magic work, there is nothing stopping her from just summoning her wand and running away. They kinda can't keep mages locked when they can summon their wands on the fly.
せやけど後者やったら、死なんからって調子乗って無茶するやろな。捕まったりとかありそうやわ。魔法の仕組み考えたら、杖召喚して逃げるの止める手段ないし。魔法使いなんて杖呼び出せたら閉じ込めとけへんやろ。2ちゃん
Ralkon
Depends on how the magic works and to what extent she can keep using it while damaged. Her regeneration that we saw wasn't instantaneous, so she could be kept in a pretty gruesome state. Like if she needs her arms to do magic, they could just keep lopping them off whenever she tried to heal herself.
魔法の仕組みと、体が傷ついてもどこまで使い続けられるか次第だな。見た限り再生は一瞬じゃなかったから、かなり酷い状態に保てるかもしれない。例えば魔法を使うのに腕が必要なら、治そうとするたびに切り落とされ続けるってことになるしな。普通くん
zer0number
原文
I was talking about this in another comment, now that Mimi experienced loss, I feel like it will affect her in one of two ways, either she won't want to fight anymore (because it's so horrible), OR the opposite, she'll want to fight even harder, to prevent other of her friends from dying... I am actually concerned because of a third way - Mimi will refuse to make any new friends, since she knows they will all have to go into battle someday, and may die.
ミミが喪失を経験した件、別コメでも話してたんやけど、これから二方向に影響する気がするンゴ。一つは戦いを嫌がる方向（あんまりにも悲惨やから）、もう一つは逆に仲間を死なせないために更に戦う方向やな…。実はワイが心配してるのは三つ目のパターンで、ミミが新しい友達を作るのを拒否する可能性や。いずれ全員戦場に出て死ぬかもしれんって分かってるからな…。2ちゃん
Shantotto11
You just described the biggest fear of Alicia Glenfall from Clevatess .
それ、まさにクレバテスのアリシア・グレンフォールの最大の恐怖を言い当ててるね。普通くん
BeatMastaD
The core issue is that you can't die and she doesnt have a way to agree. Immortality would be hell even without the scenarios you described. The limited time we have in life is what makes it valuable and what makes us appreciate it.
核心の問題は、お前が死ねないせいで、彼女に同意する手段がないってことだな。不老なんて、お前が挙げたシチュエーションがなくても地獄だよ。人生に限りがあるからこそ価値があるし、ありがたみも感じられるんだろうな。ドライおじ
redlaWw
I mean, I'd rather survivor's guilt than death. Decades of torture would suck, but eventually it has to end right? Just outlive the state behind your torture and then you're free for an eternity.
まじで死ぬより生存者罪悪感の方が良くない？数十年の拷問はだるいけど、いつか終わるじゃん？拷問してきた国が滅びるまで生き延びれば、あとは永遠に自由じゃね？笑ギャル
extralie
I think at some point, it will only end if you just go numb to it, which is not really a good thing.
ある時点で、それに対して無感覚にならないと終わらないと思うんだよね。それは本当に良いことじゃないけど。普通くん
alconnow
Hmm, now I’m curious about Fran’s age
ふむ…フランという者、その年齢に我が興味は深まるばかりだ。彼女の存在そのものが謎に満ち、悠久の時を超えた運命の鍵を握るのかもしれぬ。中二病
runevault
Yeah I caught that too. Was she also resurrected? 'Cause I've been under the impression Mimi is really fucking old but Fran knew her mother who died reviving her.
それな！俺もそれ気づいたんだけどさ。ミミってめっちゃ年寄りだと思ってたんだけど、フランはミミの母親と知り合いで、その母親がミミを蘇らせる時に死んだってことだよね？つまりミミも蘇生されたってこと？やばくね！？ギャル
Emi_Ibarazakiii
Yeah during that scene I was wondering if misunderstood something earlier, I was under the assumption that Mimi had been 'alive' for a few hundred years, so when Fran said that I thought wait, was she just alive for 30-40 years or something? But yeah it seems there's something special about Fran, as well!
あのシーンでは、自分が何か勘違いしてたのかと思ったよ。ミミは数百年生きてると思ってたから、フランがああ言った時に「え、彼女って30〜40年くらいしか生きてないの？」って思っちゃった。でもどうやらフランにも特別な何かがあるみたいだね。普通くん
tev_l
Right, didn't Mimi say she was around before the school?
まあ、ミミは学校ができる前からいたって言ってたよな。あれは伏線だったんだろうな。ドライおじ
rainbowrobin
Yeah, near the end of episode 4. Been here since it was the Archive.
エピ4の終わり際だよね！てか私このアニメがArchiveだった頃から見てるんだけど、まじで感慨深いんだけど！？ギャル
Paul_Robert_
I'm thinking she's either resurrected, or keeps casting restoration magic on herself, to keep her from ageing? Her being a resurrected would explain why the executives/leaders put up with her falling asleep in the middle of the meeting 😂 Well, that and the fact that they need her healing skills.
彼女は復活したか、老化を防ぐために自分に回復魔法をかけ続けてるのかな？復活した存在なら、会議中に寝ちゃうのを上層部が許してる理由も説明できるし😂 まあ、それに加えて彼女の治癒スキルが必要ってのもあるけどね。普通くん
mmcjawa_reborn
I've been wondering if Fran might be capable of body swapping. Mimi in the early episodes kept calling her "old man" which makes more sense if she WAS originally an old man I don't think she is at any rate like Mimi and immortal, at least not in the same sense.
フランが身体交換できる可能性について考察してるんだが、序盤でミミが彼女を「じいさん」と呼んでたのは、もし元々老人だったなら辻褄が合うんだよな。ただ、ミミや不死者と同じ意味合いで彼女がそうだとは思えない。少なくとも同じ感覚での不死ではないという考察ができる。考察くん
Shantotto11
Like Dante from Fullmetal Alchemist classic.
フルメタのダンテみたいなもんだなwwwwおじ
TheLostCityofBermuda
I’m on this idea too, since mimi call her Old man, and this episode reveal Healing and Restoration, maybe they just put his brain inside a female body and restore around it.
ミミが彼女のことを「じいさん」って呼んでるし、今回のエピソードで治癒と再生の能力が明かされたから、もしかしたら彼の脳を女性の体に入れて、その周りを再生させただけかもしれないね。普通くん
epicfail1994
New opening with sad Ari, oh nooo
新しいOPで悲しそうなアリ…やばい、泣けるッ！感情くん
Own_Caterpillar_6178
And new Ari/Seiran moments too
新たなありとせいらんの場面も見られるとは、これはまた楽しみが増えたでござるな。武士
dinliner08
man, that new visuals was diabolical
マジであの新映像ヤバすぎるッ！脳が破壊されたわ…感情くん
Smoker81
Twisting the knife.
追い打ちかけてくるじゃん。普通くん
zairaner
Some of these moments where the ones from the pre-animated PV, which is genius use of that footage (as the style being slightly different from the actual show doesn't matter in an op) but also seems directly aimed at further hurting those anime-onlies that thought Seiran would be safe till we get those scenes in the show!!
事前アニメPVの映像をOPで使い回すの天才やろwww 本編と画風ちょっと違うけどOPなら全く問題ないしな。でもこれ、アニメ勢で「晴嵐は本編でそのシーン来るまで安全やろ」と思っとった連中を更にぶっ刺すための直接攻撃やないかwww2ちゃん
CitronClassic672
That scene of Seiran and Ari holding hands on the bed. The bastards used it for the OP .
あのセーランとアリがベッドで手繋いでるシーン！OPに使うとかまじで鬼じゃん！？笑ギャル
zairaner
Nobody tell abyss, I have been trying to get him to catch up via these scenes as bait for weeks
アビスには内緒にしてね。ここ数週間、このシーンを餌にして彼を追いつかせようとしてたんだ。普通くん
CitronClassic672
That scene was a main reason I decided to watch the show. How do you think I feel, lol.
あのシーンがこの作品を見る決め手だったんだよな。俺の気持ち考えてみろよwマジでワロタわwwwwおじ
zairaner
Lol you don't know how hilarious it was to see seiranari only being introduced via gex.
セイラナリがセックスシーンでしか登場しなかったの、どれだけ面白かったか分かんないだろ（笑）普通くん
CitronClassic672
I am curious about the “sexual content” content disclaimer for the series now though if that was as risqué as it ends up being. Is it 16+ only for the gore and death and they just tacked the sexual content disclaimer onto it?
このシリーズの「性的描写あり」って表記が気になるンゴね。実際にそれほど際どいのかどうか。16+指定はグロと死描写のためだけやろ？性的描写の警告はただ付け足しただけなんか？2ちゃん
gnome-cop
Imma be honest, I saw that scene way back when they released the first PV and just instantly knew “Oh, those bastards, this scene is gonna hurt so much when one or both of them die horribly later.” It’s pretty much THE reason I’ve been holding off on the series until now because I’m only going to go through the pain once.
正直言うと、最初のPVでそのシーン見た瞬間に「あ、これ絶対どっちか死ぬわ」って悟ったんだよね。だから今までシリーズを温存してたんだ。だってその痛みは一度でいいからさ。普通くん
Roskal
They really twist the knife by giving so many new Seiran/Ari moments in those unique EDs and this new OP.
マジで最新のEDとか新OPでセイランとアリの尊いシーン盛りまくってくれて、逆に心抉られるんだけど！？笑 もう泣くわ〜ギャル
CitronClassic672
I’m so torn, I’m happy that we didn’t completely lose Seiran as a character via the continued presence in the OP, ED and in episode flashbacks/dreams, but at the same time it asot makes it more painful for her to continue to be around only in this manner.
ワイ複雑やわ…OP・EDとか回想・夢でセイランが完全に消えたわけじゃないのは嬉しいんやけど、逆にそういう形でしか居らんのがもっと辛いンゴねぇ…2ちゃん
zairaner
She also is in the eyecatches, despite me being so sure we would get updated ones without her at this point.
彼女はアイキャッチにも出てるんだよね。この時点でもう彼女抜きの新バージョンになると思ってたんだけどな。普通くん
WhoiusBarrel
They weren't content with hurting via the ED as well now...
EDでまで傷つけてくるってまじで許せなくない！？笑ギャル
dinliner08
anime staff: "hmm? what was that? not enough pain? here some more!"
アニメスタッフ「ん？なんだって？痛みが足りない？ならもっとやろう！」普通くん
Jacob-C
“Ahh, so the tears start at the new OP already. That’s fair”, was basically what I was thinking when the OP started.
あー、新しいOP始まった時点でもう涙腺崩壊だわ。それで正解だよ、って思ったわ。エモすぎるッ！感情くん
zairaner
They just uploaded the new op !
新しいOPがアップロードされたよ！普通くん
Roskal
原文
Its interesting that this is the first time we learned that attempting the resurrection spell has a high failure rate. In a different timeline if Ari tried to do it for Seiran she'd probably just die without reviving her. I wanted to know more about what Mimi's plan was with the spell, was she planning to cast it herself or have Ari do it? Does she know its very hard to use and can fail? Since she is immortal if she used it would she still die? Another random thought I had this episode is that Mimi gets hungry a lot, but what would happen if she starved, since she can't die? It kind of feels like there are loopholes to the immortality by having an immortal cast the resurrection spell and failing, resulting in their death and no new immortals, so there is a way to free yourself from the immortality. The alternative is you can just make everyone in the world immortal by reviving 1 person who can perform the spell and that person revives everyone.
今回のエピソードで初めて、蘇生呪文の成功率が低いことが明かされたのが興味深い。もし別の時間軸でアリがセイランを蘇生しようとしていたら、彼女はただ死んでいたかもしれず、復活は叶わなかっただろう。
ミミの計画が気になるな。彼女は自ら呪文を唱えるつもりだったのか、それともアリにやらせるつもりだったのか？成功率の低さを知っていたのか？不死身の彼女が唱えた場合、死ぬことはあるのか？
もう一つ思ったのは、ミミが頻繁に空腹を訴えること。もし飢餓状態になっても死なないなら、どうなるんだろう？
不死の抜け穴があるように感じる。不死者が蘇生呪文を失敗すれば死に、新たな不死者が生まれない。つまり、不死からの解放手段が存在する可能性が示唆されている。逆に、世界の全員を不死にする方法もある。1人を蘇生させ、その者が呪文を使えるようになれば、全員を復活させられる。考察くん
Alej_11
Mimi is closer to a zombie, probably she can't cast it because she hasn't a life to trade. Also if it was possible she would use her life, she cared for seiran but not enough to leave sheena
ミミはどちらかと言うとゾンビに近いから、交換する命がないから発動できないんだと思う。もし可能なら自分の命を使っただろうけど、セイランには気にかけてたけど、シーナを置いていくほどじゃなかったんだな。普通くん
kicksFR
I think maybe Mimi can pass the immortality curse to Seiran and she will age normally
ミミが永遠の呪いをセイランに移せたら、普通に歳を取れるんじゃないかな？それ最高じゃね？泣けるわ感情くん
Wurzelrenner
I had the same thought, but this would be very powerful as you could resurrect people in a chain without any cost but the life of the first caster(if they can cast the spell sucessfully)
確かに同じこと思ったわ。でもこれ、最初の術者が成功すれば、コストはその命だけで連鎖的に人を蘇らせられるから、めちゃくちゃ強力だよね。普通くん
CitronClassic672
If it works like other portrayals of immortality I’m assuming Mimi would just feel constant hunger pains until eventually eating. She wouldn’t die but it’d definitely be unpleasant enough to warrant her being well fed.
不死身の描写が他の作品と同じなら、ミミは食うまで永遠に空腹感に苦しむ感じやろな。死にはせんけど、不快すぎてちゃんと飯食わせたくなるわ。2ちゃん
SecretEmpire_WasGood
"For too long I've been parched of thirst and unable to quench it. Too long I've been starving to death and haven't died"
「長い間ずっと喉の渇きを癒せずにいた。長い間飢え死にしそうなのに死ねずにいた」普通くん
pepitors
I'm confused, isn't Mimi super old? How can Fran have met her mother?
え、ちょっと待って？？ミミってめっちゃ年上じゃなかったっけ？？フランが彼女の母親に会えるってどういうことだよ！？混乱しすぎて頭パンクしそうなんだけどッ！感情くん
dinliner08
i mean, the only obvious explanation was that Fran is super old too, we still don't know much about magic system of this world so probably there are magic or maybe magic medicine that Fran could use to prolong her life
まあ、唯一納得できる説明はフランもかなり長生きしてるってことだよね。この世界の魔法システムについてはまだよく分かってないし、おそらくフランが寿命を延ばすための魔法とか魔法薬みたいなものが存在するんだろうな。普通くん
eightcheesepizza
I keep eyeing that purple covered plant in the middle of Fran's table when I think of our theories about Fran's age.
フラン年齢説を考えるたびに、フラン机の真ん中にある紫の葉っぱの植物が気になって仕方ないんだよなッ！あれ絶対なにか意味あるでしょ！？感情くん
rainbowrobin
the only obvious explanation was that Fran is super old too Or that the subtitles messed up.
唯一の明確な説明は、フランもめちゃくちゃ年寄りだってことか、それか字幕がバグってたってことだな。普通くん
LeonKevlar
Mimi does call Fran-sensei really old a few times during the first couple of episodes. I wouldn't be surprised if there's magic in this world that can keep a person young.
ミミが最初の方でフラン先生のこと何回か「超おばさん」って言ってたじゃん！この世界に若さ保つ魔法とかあっても全然驚かないんだけど笑ギャル
threatdetected23
Perhaps she dosent know her like personally, maybe she is just referring to old records left behind of Mimi's mother.
もしかしたら彼女はミミのことを個人的には知らないのかもね。ただ、ミミの母親が残した古い記録を参照してるだけかもしれないし。普通くん
extralie
I don't think we ever had an ACTUAL confirmation of how old she is, just rumors the student spread. She could have been resurrected 10 years ago.
確かに年齢の確定情報はなかったよな！ただの生徒たちの噂だし。10年前に蘇ってた可能性もあるしな。感情くん
runevault
I feel like the show has been hinting she's old for a while. Like she's not great at a lot of school but happens to know history really well feels like a tell on how old she is.
この作品、彼女が年寄りだって結構前からほのめかしてた気がするんだよね。学校の勉強はあんまりできないのに、歴史だけはすごく詳しいっていうのは、彼女の年齢を物語ってる感じがする。普通くん
zazakmazak
She mentioned one episode she knows this place from before it was called school, I think she is pretty old.
「昔学校って呼ばれる前からこの場所知ってるって言ってたけど、ワイ的には結構いい歳なんじゃないかと思うンゴwww」2ちゃん
KJatWork
Sure, but that could be 20 or 30 years and Fran may be 40 or 50. To the students, that is old and a long time ago...but it's certainly not 100s of years.
確かに、でもそれは20年や30年後で、フランは40代か50代だろ。生徒からしたら年老いて昔の話だけど…でも100年単位じゃないのは確かだな。感情くん
zazakmazak
Well, since resurrection magic is common enough knowledge, it makes sense there would be other immortals out there. Plus people have been joking Fran's name is a reference to Frankenstein, so there might be more to it lol 😅
蘇生魔法が一般的な知識なら、他にも不死者がいてもおかしくないよな。それにフランって名前がフランケンシュタインのオマージュだって冗談言われてるし、もしかしたら深い意味があるかもね笑😅普通くん
Maximum-Warthog2368
super old means what? she could be very old but not that long that mimi's mother and fran would never even met.
超古いってどういう意味だよ！？彼女がめっちゃ年上でも、ミミの母さんとフランが会ったこともないレベルってことはないだろッ！感情くん
Relative_Ad6629
It was implied Mimi had lived for centuries (or at least for decades). There are many such scenes, but the two clearest examples are: She said she lived here even before it became a school. Despite being terrible in all other subjects, she gets excellent grades in history without never studying.
ミミが何世紀も（少なくとも数十年は）生きてきたことが示唆されてたよね。そういうシーンはいくつかあるけど、一番明確なのは2つかな。学校になる前からここに住んでたって言ってたことと、他の教科は全然ダメなのに歴史だけは勉強してないのに優秀な成績を取ってることだね。普通くん
Maximum-Warthog2368
that doesn't mean she lives for centuries? it could just mean many decades like you said.
いや、何世紀も生きるとは限らんやろ？ ワイの言う通り数十年って可能性もあるやん。2ちゃん
Embarrassed-Match-78
I'd had been wondering about Fran and was wondering if she herself wasn't immortal as well. Mimi and Fran are the only two characters that we see with unnatural hair colors. I'm wondering if Fran isn't related to Mimi in some way. There is a sadness I'm picking up when she speaks of Mimi's mother I've been picking up.
フランについてずっと考えてたんだけど、彼女自身も不老なんじゃないかなって思ってるんだ。ミミとフランだけが不自然な髪色をしてる唯一のキャラだからね。フランとミミが何か関係あるんじゃないかって気になってる。ミミの母親の話をするとき、フランから悲しみが感じられるんだよ。普通くん
shewy92
Since Fran can use restoration magic she might be able to delay aging.
フランは回復魔法を使えるから、老化を遅らせられるかもしれないってことか…！それエモすぎるだろッ！ずっと一緒にいられる可能性とか考えるだけで泣けるわ…！感情くん
LeonKevlar
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Knowing that Ari and Seiran already had the resurrection magic conversation , I'm not surprised Ari refused Mimi's offer. And Ari makes a good point: Seiran would be upset if someone else traded their life to bring her back. Oh no, we get a new opening and it's the second half of the song with new visuals. We've only started the episode, and the new opening is already making me tear up. Interestingly, Haru and Esther are very prominent in the new OP. I guess that means we'll see them more. Mimi has probably fought alongside a lot of people over the years and has seen a lot of them die too, but this is probably the first time she's experienced loss like this since her mom sacrificed herself to bring her back. It really shows that this is the first time she's cared for someone like this. That scene with Sheena and Mimi might be cute , but the fact that Sheena makes a point that Mimi needs to learn how to make her own onigiri makes it obvious that Sheena is teaching Mimi to make her own food because she knows she won't be around Mimi forever. So they really don't go into battle until they've reached Class 17. Yeah, that really puts it into perspective how early Seiran went into battle. And when they've reached Class 17, and the war isn't over, it looks like Sheena won't have any other choice but to be deployed. In a show that has magic, I'd like to believe that that was really Seiran's spirit checking on Mimi . I'm kinda hoping we'd see Seiran visit Ari one last time, but I don't think I'll be able to handle it T_T So Sheena's magic is actually healing magic , which while it sounds similar, is different from restoration magic. And we have confirmation that those little green motes of light around Sheena whenever she hugs Mimi are her unknowingly using healing magic. Being able to revive plants and get more yields from plants that can be used in medicine is actually a pretty big deal. Unfortunately, Sheena's magic is nowhere near strong enough to be used on people. Hey, at least Sheena now has something to strive for! Sheena and Mimi's mom have the same kind of magic? I guess that explains why Mimi is naturally attracted to Sheena and why Mimi thinks that Sheena smells like her mom. That might also be the reason why Fran-sensei picked Sheena to watch over Mimi. Mimi must've been so scared when she woke up and couldn't find Sheena in their room . I am interested in Sheena's magic activating when she was holding hands with Mimi. I guess that healing magic must've been very comforting for Mimi.
アリとセイランがすでに蘇生魔法の話をしてたって知ってると、ミミの提案をアリが断ったのも納得だな。アリの言う通り、他の誰かが自分の命と引き換えにセイランを蘇らせたら、セイランは悲しむだろうしね。
あー、新OPが来たけど、曲の後半で映像も新しいのか。エピソード始まったばかりなのに、もう泣きそうだよ。ハルとエスターが新OPで目立ってるのが興味深いな。つまり、今後彼らがもっと登場するってことかもね。
ミミは長年たくさんの人と戦ってきて、多くの死も見てきたんだろうけど、母親が自分の命を犠牲にして蘇らせてくれた時以来、こんな喪失感を味わうのは初めてなんじゃないかな。彼女がこんな風に誰かを大切に思うのは初めてってのが伝わるよ。
シーナとミミのシーンは可愛いけど、シーナがミミに自分でおにぎり作れるようにならないとって言うのは、自分が永遠にミミのそばにいられないって分かってるからだよね。
クラス17に達するまで戦場に出ないってのは、セイランがどれだけ早く戦場に出たかを際立たせてるな。クラス17に達しても戦争が終わらなければ、シーナも出撃せざるを得なくなるだろうね。
魔法がある世界なら、あれは本当にセイランの霊がミミを見守ってたんだと信じたいな。セイランがアリを最後にもう一度訪れるところが見たいけど普通くん
Myrkrvaldyr
it looks like Sheena won't have any other choice but to be deployed. Part of me wonders if they have employment alternatives for the students that graduate but are still too weak to battle. Sheena until now hadn't showed a sense of urgency to get stronger. If she hadn't discovered her healing magic, and was going to still get deployed at 17, she was gonna die on her first day.
シーナはもう出撃せざるを得ない状況だな。卒業しても戦闘が弱い生徒に代替の就職先があるのか気になるわ。今までシーナは強くなる必要性を感じてなかったけど、治癒魔法に気づかなかったら17歳で出撃して初日に死んでたって考察ができる。考察くん
BosuW
From what Sheena was saying about the classes this episode it is implied that once you're in class 16 everyone gets sent to battle. So "students that are too weak to battle" simply don't survive to graduate.
シーナが今週の授業について言ってたことからすると、クラス16に入ったら全員戦場に送られるって示唆されてるね。つまり「戦うには弱すぎる生徒」は卒業まで生き残れないってことだよ。普通くん
eightcheesepizza
Being able to revive plants and get more yields from plants that can be used in medicine is actually a pretty big deal. Hopefully Sheena takes up Fran's offer to work in the nurse's office. I'm sure Fran would like to source her own tobacco.
植物を蘇生できて医療用植物の収穫量増やせるって実は結構すごいことやん。シーナがフランの提案受けて保健室で働いてくれたらええな。フランも自分のタバコ確保したいやろうし。2ちゃん
rubslotiononitsskin
Fran about to roll up with Cuban Cigars the next time we see her.
次にフランが登場するとき、キューバ産葉巻をくわえて現れるんじゃないかって思うわｗｗｗ感情くん
Proxiehunter
Honestly with all the stress she's under what she really needs is a nice fat blunt.
まじで彼女のストレス量やばくない！？こんな時はでかいヤツ一発キメるのが一番じゃね？笑ギャル
rubslotiononitsskin
Does that mean the enemy will immediately raid the school for Sheena's ability to cultivate an unlimited ganja farm?
つまり敵は、シーナが無限のガンジャ農場を作れる能力を持ってるってことで、すぐに学校を襲撃してくるってこと？普通くん
extralie
And when they've reached Class 17, and the war isn't over, it looks like Sheena won't have any other choice but to be deployed. They said healers are super rare, so she might actually avoid deployment since they literally only have one nurse at the school, she can be the new nurse or her assistant if she improved.
第17組に到達しても戦争が終わらない場合、シーナは戦闘配置を避けられないと見られる。ただ、ヒーラーは超希少と明言されており、学校には看護師が実質1人しかいないからな。彼女が成長すれば、新たな看護師やその助手として配置を回避できる可能性が高いという考察ができる。考察くん
zer0number
Oh no, we get a new opening and it's the second half of the song with new visuals. NGL - The minute that opening started with Seiren and Ari, I hit skip. I just cannot this soon. I nearly went full busted water main crying at the eye catches. I couldn't start the show with that. Once my heart has fully recovered, I will go back.
やばい、新OP来たけど、曲の後半に新映像って構成なんだね。正直言うと、OPが始まってセイレンとアリが出てきた瞬間、スキップしちゃったよ。まだ早すぎるって。アイキャッチでほぼ涙腺崩壊寸前だったわ。こんな状態で本編始められない。心が完全に回復したら、戻って見るつもり。普通くん
Gaporigo
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dude_1818
I'm glad you pointed that out with the op, because I haven't actually been watching them this season and was pretty surprised by how much Ari/Seiran focus there was this time
OPの件で指摘してくれて助かるよ。今期はOP全然見てなかったんだけど、今回アリとセイランの出番が多くて結構驚いたんだよね。普通くん
rainbowrobin
So they really don't go into battle until they've reached Class 17. Well, not normally. The adults had talked earlier about splitting duties between classes 16 and 17, and Sheena's class 14 roommate got killed right before the series started.
つまり彼らはクラス17に到達するまで本当に戦闘に出ないんだな。少なくとも通常はね。大人たちが以前クラス16と17で任務を分担する話をしていたけど、シーナのクラス14のルームメイトはシリーズ開始直前に殺されてたんだよな。この設定を踏まえると、クラス分けが単なる教育システムじゃなくて、戦力としての“消耗品”を段階的に育てる仕組みだという考察ができる。考察くん
extralie
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My AITAI looks and sounds different... I think seeing Mimi sad, hurt the most so far ngl... But it was at least followed by a cute scene... Tbh, I don't get the difference between restoration and healing magic explanation. All I got is that with healing magic, you don't have to make out sloppy style to use it. Also yeah, like I thought. Very few people can cast the resurrection magic successfully and it sounds like you need to be a powerful healer to cast, so it makes sense that it will be banned... that being said, the fact that Sheena have that type of magic is making me worried....
うちのアイタイ、見た目も声も変わってる…ミミが悲しんでるのを見るのが今までで一番つらかったかも。でも、その後に可愛いシーンがあったからまだ良かったけど…正直、修復魔法と回復魔法の違いの説明はよくわからなかったな。わかったのは、回復魔法ならベタベタなキスをしなくても使えるってことだけ。それに、やっぱり思った通り、蘇生魔法を成功させられる人はごく少数で、強い回復使いじゃないと無理っぽいから、禁止されるのも納得だわ…でも、シーナがあんな魔法を持ってるって思うと不安になるな…普通くん
Skullzans
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Far as I can tell: "Internal" vs "External" refers to problems. Like, say you have a disease or a brain injury- or you're lacking a hormone(Varying levels of bad depending on which one--). That is Healing Magic's territory. And say you have lost an arm, have a gash wound. That is Restoration Magic? That's my guess anyway. The basic idea to re-clarify my guess is: Healing is like purification or cure disease(aka ailment curing) while Restoration is Wounds, Broken and/or Lost Limbs. What's weird is that if I am right, this is seemingly reverse to what most settings define it by?
私の考察では、「内部」と「外部」は問題の種類を指すと思われる。例えば、病気や脳損傷、ホルモン欠乏（どれが欠けるかで重症度は異なるが）——これが治療魔術の管轄だ。そして、腕を失ったとか裂傷がある場合は、修復魔術ってことになるんだろうな。まあ俺の推測だが。
要するに、治療は浄化や病気治癒（つまり病状回復）で、修復は傷・骨折・欠損した四肢の再生って区分だ。だが、もしこの解釈が正しいなら、多くの作品の定義とは逆になってるのが興味深いところだな。考察くん
shewy92
"maladies stem from the mind" I took to mean like your immune system is either not working well enough fighting the infection or you're having side effects of your immune system fighting the infection. So like you said, having a disease. Healing magic amplifies your immune system. But your immune system can't regrow a limb. So that would be restoration magic.
「病は心から」ってのは、免疫系が感染症とうまく戦えてないか、逆に免疫が戦いすぎて副作用が出てるって意味だと思うんだ。つまり、病気になってるってことだね。回復魔法は免疫を増幅させるだけ。でも免疫じゃ手足は再生できないから、そこは再生魔法の出番ってわけ。普通くん
EmpoleonNorton
Healing magic can also affect mental states as well. That is why we get the visual effects sometimes from it when she is hugging Mimi.
癒やしの魔法って心の状態にも効くんだよね！だからミミを抱きしめた時にビジュアルエフェクトが出るんだって！やばくね！？ギャル
i_know_the_void
That’s adorable - Ari is the pillow.
それ可愛すぎる - アリが枕なんだね。普通くん
FetchFrosh
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FetchFrosh
"We've haven't seen it yet, but..." is like exactly what this rule was written for.
まだ見てないけど…っていうのが、まさにこのルールのためにあるようなものだね。普通くん
shewy92
Restoration is for big things, healing is for small things. Restoration is like growing an entire arm back with stem cells (from the outside), healing is probably like accelerating your immune system (from the inside).
「修復」は大きな損傷用で、「治癒」は小さな負傷用という考察ができる。修復は外部から幹細胞で腕全体を再生させるイメージ、治癒は内部の免疫システムを加速させる感じだと思われる。この使い分けが世界観の設定として巧妙だよな。考察くん
deathpad17
The new OP sure hits hard
新OPやばくない！？まじで心に刺さるんだけど！！ギャル
dinliner08
it hits hard where it hurts
それは本当に心に刺さるね。普通くん
Jacob-C
It hit even harder when someone in the comments for the new OP pointed out that this entire second chorus is in the past tense, and at 0:44 she sings, “I loved you so much”.
マジでやばくない！？新OPのコメント欄で誰かが指摘してたんだけど、この2番目のサビずっと過去形なんだって！しかも0:44のところで「めっちゃ愛してた」って歌ってるんだけど、それ聞いた瞬間胸が締め付けられたわ…泣けるんだけどまじで！ギャル
Own_Caterpillar_6178
Same song, just A Capella
同じ曲なのにアカペラ版とかエモすぎるッ！感情くん
zazakmazak
same song, second chorus. I'm kinda surprised this is the first instance I've seen someone do this, after watching so much other anime.
同じ曲の2番のサビやん。こんなん初めて見たわ。他のアニメめっちゃ見てきたけど、これが最初とか意外やな。2ちゃん
BosuW
I'm pretty sure I've seen it done before, but I can't name where right now.
確かに前に見たことある気がするけど、今はどこで見たか思い出せないな。普通くん
Own_Caterpillar_6178
Frieren S1 ED did it across the two cours, using the first and second half of Milets Anytime, Anywhere
フリーレン1期ED、2クール通してやってたのヤバくない？ミレットの「Anytime, Anywhere」の前半と後半使い分けてたんだぜ、エモすぎるッ！感情くん
lordposedyon
same song, new OP
同じ曲だけど、新しいOPだね普通くん
Weak_Season_Of_Anime
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Yep, figured Ari wouldn't go through with that, it would be disrespectful to ignore Seiran's wishes too. Interesting that they made the distinction between healing and restoration magic. Maybe if Sheena gets good enough at healing magic she can reverse Mimi's immortality, but that would probably cause them to lose the war. The whole thing about healing magic being very rare and passed down through bloodlines is a bit sus too. Mimi seems to have become even more attached to Sheena now that she's starting to understand what death means for other people. Flower language : The flower in Mimi and Sheena's room is an Impatiens, which carries the meaning of "impatience" and "maternal love". While the flower that Sheena revives is a Hellebore, which carries the meanings of "hope, resilience and renewal".
アリがそれを実行しないのは予想通りだな。セイランの意志を無視するのは失礼にあたるからな。治癒魔法と再生魔法の区別を明確にしたのは興味深い。シーナが治癒魔法を極めればミミの不死を解除できるかもしれないが、それは戦争に負けるリスクを伴うだろう。治癒魔法が希少で血統によって受け継がれるという設定も、伏線の可能性が感じられる。ミミが死の意味を理解し始めたことで、シーナへの執着がさらに強まっているように見える。花言葉についての考察だが、ミミとシーナの部屋にある花はツリフネソウで「待ち遠しい」「母性愛」を意味し、シーナが蘇らせた花はヘレボルスで「希望」「回復」「再生」を意味する。この花の使い分けは制作陣の意図的な演出だと思われる。考察くん
RadianceTower
Why would she reverse her immortality? Does Sheena want Mimi to die? Does Mimi want herself to die?
なんで不老を解除したんや……シーナはミミに死んでほしいってことか？それともミミ自身が死にたいんか？ワイには意味わからんンゴ……2ちゃん
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