#11きみが死ぬまで恋をしたい
放送 2026-09-15更新 2026-09-26
mypawket
Do they always have to deliver Mimi in that potato sack 😭 girlie even had all her limbs still attached this time
いつもミミをあの芋袋で届けなきゃいけないの😭 今回は四肢も全部ついてたのに普通くん
ruthekangaroo
I'm surprised no one ever mentions this. It feels so disrespectful and dehumanizing (I guess that's the point). The first time I saw it my jaw dropped to the floor. After everything she does for them you think they'd at least bring her in a stretcher...
我が目を疑ったのだ……誰もこの真実に触れぬとは。あれは魂を冒涜する所業、人の形をした者が人として扱われぬ絶望……初めて目撃した瞬間、我が顎は大地を貫いた。彼女が尽くした全てを思えば、せめて担架の一つでも……人の心があるならば、そうするのが道理であろうに。中二病
mypawket
Like maybe they want to avoid other students seeing her, which I could understand for the moments when she’s literally in pieces, but in today’s episode that guy could’ve easily just carried her in his arms??? They really just see Mimi as a thing, not a person
多分他の生徒に見られたくないんやろな、バラバラの時は分かるけど今日の話とか普通に抱えて運べばええやん?ミミのことモノ扱いしとるやろ、人間として見てへんわ2ちゃん
zer0number
原文
I'm surprised no one ever mentions this. It feels so disrespectful and dehumanizing (I guess that's the point). I don't think they consider her human at this point. She's a weapon. Period. The line that bothered me so much in one of the earlier episodes was a guy bringing the sack back and saying, 'It took a while to find all the parts'. Not that it took them a while to find all of her parts, or not that it took a while to piece her back together. Just that it took a while to find all of the parts of their broken weapon. This society is irredeemable in my mind.
この描写、誰も言及してないのが逆に驚きだよな。非人間的で侮辱的すぎる(まあそれが狙いなんだろうけど)。この時点で彼女を人間扱いしてないという考察ができる。彼女は武器。それだけ。序盤の「パーツを見つけるのに時間がかかった」というセリフが本当に引っかかった。彼女の体を探すのに時間がかかったとか、繋ぎ合わせるのに苦労したとかじゃない。壊れた武器のパーツ集めに時間がかかった、ただそれだけ。この社会は救いようがないと思わされる。考察くん
RadianceTower
None of the actual characters question the status quo much. Everyone we see seems happy being little obedient dogs to the system/school, and actually in some cases want to try harder to serve it too.
キャラたちは誰も現状に疑問を持たないんだよね。みんなシステムや学校に従順な犬でいることに満足してるし、むしろもっと尽くそうとするやつもいる。普通くん
mokuhazushi
原文
It's nice to see that Mimi's aversion to Sheena practicing magic isn't just about the two of them spending less time together. She's afraid of Sheena getting stronger because she knows what happens to strong students – they get sent off to war and die. Both of them are so desperate to protect the other that it finally leads to a fight, and I'm sorry to say this Sheena, but you lost this debate as well, just like you lost the debate at the end of last episode. Mimi simply has a better grasp of the big picture. So there will probably be an apology in the next episode, but the question is how Sheena is going to keep practicing magic. She obviously won't stop, but will she tell Mimi, or will she try to keep it a secret somehow?
ミミがシーナの魔法練習を嫌がるのは、単に一緒に過ごす時間が減るからじゃないという考察ができる。強い生徒が戦争に送られて死ぬことを知っているから、シーナが強くなるのを恐れているんだ。お互いを守りたい一心がついに衝突に繋がったわけだが、シーナ、前回の議論と同じく今回も君の負けだ。ミミの方が全体像を掴んでいる。次回は謝罪があるだろうが、問題はシーナがどう魔法練習を続けるか。やめるはずはないが、ミミに話すのか、それとも秘密にするのか。考察くん
CitronClassic672
原文
I like that this series has frequently been willing to put its main protagonist/ our PoV character in situations like this where the story actually frames them as being on the wrong side of the issue. Like in previous episodes that discussed this issue, it ultimately comes down to Mimi’s ability to save the lives of an indefinite number of students vs Sheena’s personal distress at seeing Mimi get hurt. It’s obviously not ideal but Mimi continuing as is is by far the better option. Maybe the resolution will call back to Sheena and Mimi’s talk at the end of episode 10 and they both agree that Mimi can keep continuing what she can to protect people by fighting, while Sheena will also keep doing what she can to protect others by developing her healing magic?
この作品が主人公をこういう「話の論点で間違ってる側」に置くの、いいよね。ミミが多くの生徒を救えるか vs シーナがミミの負傷に心を痛めるか、って話で、ミミが続ける方が明らかにマシ。もしかしたら10話ラストの2人の会話に繋がって、ミミは戦いで人を守り、シーナは治癒魔法で守る、って落とし所になるかも。普通くん
gnome-cop
原文
I don’t like the utilitarian way of thinking but unfortunately, continuing to send Mimi out is the “best” choice out of two options that are both terrible. It shows you how much Mimi’s suffering doing this and then eliminates all other options that could make her not have to do it. It’s incredibly cruel and unfair to make her bear this burden but no one else can take her place and so many more will die without her.
功利主義的な考え方は好きじゃないが、残念ながらミミを送り出し続けるのが、どちらも最悪な二択の中で「最善」の選択だという考察ができる。これはミミがどれほど苦しみながらこれをやっているかを示すと同時に、彼女がやらなくて済む他の選択肢をすべて排除している。彼女にこの重荷を背負わせるのは残酷で不公平だが、彼女の代わりは誰にも務まらず、彼女なしではさらに多くの命が失われるだろう。考察くん
ChiliDemon
Nah Sheena is correct the big picture is the school being a failure in and of itself, forcing Mimi to go through all this without doing a damn thing to end the war other than throwing out child meat shields.
シーナの言う通りだな。学校そのものが失敗作で、ミミにこんな目に遭わせてるくせに、子供を肉の盾に放り込む以外、戦争を終わらせるために何もしてないんだからな。ドライおじ
Unearthly_
原文
The school is a failure, but Sheena is not engaging on that level. She isn't talking about how to resolve the war, whether winning, surrendering, or running away. She just doesn't want Mimi getting hurt. Which is fair, but is naive given their situation. Unless she addresses the situation first, she is just an unrealistic idealist. And well, they ARE children so I'm not blaming them too hard. But I can't say Sheena is "right" here.
学校がダメなのはそうだけど、Sheenaはそのレベルで語ってないんだよね。戦争をどう終わらせるかとか、勝つか降伏するか逃げるかとか、そういう話じゃなくて。ただMimiに傷ついてほしくないだけ。それは当然だけど、状況を考えたら甘い。まず状況に向き合わないと、ただの非現実的な理想主義者だよ。まあ子供なんだからあまり責められないけど、Sheenaが「正しい」とは言えないな。普通くん
ChiliDemon
Fran is using those feelings to steer Sheena into getting Mimi to quit/change the situation
フランがその感情を使ってシーナを操ってミミを辞めさせようとしてる…無理すぎる、しんどい感情くん
Jacob-C
原文
Sure, the school might be bad, but being child soldiers is the inevitable situation the students find themselves in. We haven't really gotten any information about the war, so we can only assume that one side's resources are so depleted that they can't put up a fight without using children. It is fucked-up, but it's also a reality that the orphans have no control over. What we do know is that Mimi shouldering the pain allows other children to live to see another day. As it currently stands, Sheena's argument is selfish wishful thinking. As much as Sheena cares about Mimi, there is also someone who cares about the child who would have died instead if Mimi hadn't gotten hurt.
学校が悪いのは確かだけど、子ども兵士になるのは生徒たちにとって避けられない状況だよね。戦争の詳細はまだ分かってないから、片方の資源が枯渇して子どもを使わないと戦えないとしか推測できない。クソみたいな話だけど、孤児たちにはどうにもできない現実でもある。分かってるのは、ミミが痛みを背負うことで他の子どもたちが生き延びられるってこと。現状、シーナの主張は自分勝手な願望だよ。シーナがミミを大事に思うのと同じくらい、ミミが傷つかなければ死んでいた子を大事に思う人もいるんだ。普通くん
Myrkrvaldyr
Both of them are so desperate to protect the other that it finally leads to a figh It's Lucy and David from Cyberpunk 2077 all over again. Well, unless this story intends to take such a turn, Sheena will likely get stronger and be deployed.
2人とも相手を守りたくて必死すぎて、ついに戦いになっちまったな。まるでサイバーパンク2077のルーシーとデイビッドの再来やん。まあ、この話がそういう展開になるつもりじゃないなら、シーナはたぶん強くなって戦場に送られるやろな。2ちゃん
mekerpan
Sheena is NOT getting more powerful in fighting power -- only to some extent in healing power. Would they deploy a healer unable to protect herself to a war zone?
Sheenaは戦闘力が上がってるわけじゃないんだよね。治癒力がある程度上がっただけ。自分を守れないヒーラーを戦場に送ると思う?普通くん
Alej_11
I mean, they could if sheena gets REALLY good with healing magic, like able to save lives levels of good. And if a big offensive is launched by the enemy kingdom, mimi is strong but she can't be everywhere, fatalities are inevitable in that case
シーナが治癒魔法を極めて命を救えるレベルになれば可能という考察ができる。敵国が大攻勢をかければミミは強いが全戦線はカバーできず、犠牲は避けられないだろう。考察くん
pornomancer90
It could be that mastery of healing magic also helps improving her combat abilities to a degree.
癒しの魔法を極めることは、戦闘能力の向上にも多少役立つのかもしれぬな。武士
rubslotiononitsskin
She'll be so good at healing that she'll be yeeting her patients into a pool of blood(with healing properties) and grow a pompadour!
まじやばくね!?回復うますぎて患者を血のプールにぶん投げて、リーゼントまで生やしちゃうんだけど笑ギャル
Own_Caterpillar_6178
The wrong way to use healing magic
癒しの魔法の間違った使い方やろこれwww2ちゃん
Weak_Season_Of_Anime
First argument! Feels like Mimi is one step closer to going full yandere and locking Sheena in her room. Ok jokes aside, can't Sheena become a medic instead? She's clearly not suited for combat.
まじそれな!ミミやばいよね、完全にヤンデレ一直線でシーナを部屋に閉じ込めそうじゃん笑
てか本題だけど、シーナは戦闘より衛生兵のほうが向いてない?戦い全然向いてないっしょギャル
extralie
Ok jokes aside, can't Sheena become a medic instead? She's clearly not suited for combat. I think Mimi's worry is that they might still send her as an on-field medic.
冗談はさておき、Sheenaは戦闘より衛生兵の方が向いてるんじゃない?戦闘には明らかに向いてないし。Mimiが心配してるのは、それでも前線の衛生兵として送られるかもしれないってことだと思う。普通くん
Niwaka_Samurai
They definitely would 😭
絶対そうなるわ😭2ちゃん
Adventurous-Exit5832
Mimi could just threaten them to stop fighting if they send Sheena.
シーナを送り込めば、ミミが喧嘩を止めさせると脅すだけでござる。武士
rubslotiononitsskin
原文
Which is very likely regardless of what Mimi does. When the enemy gets past Mimi(and they damn well can considering they've launched attacks very close to home base, not to mention that one guy who nearly killed Sheena), Sheena's gonna be field medic when the frontlines make their way to her. Ideally, Sheena doesn't get deployed to frontlines, but she should be trained to fight when the frontlines reach her.
ミミが何をしようと、これはかなりありそうな話だね。敵がミミを突破したら(実際、基地のすぐ近くまで攻撃してきてるし、シーナを危うく殺しかけた奴もいるし)、前線がシーナのところまで来たら彼女が野戦衛生兵になるんだろうな。理想的にはシーナは前線に配属されないけど、前線が来た時に戦えるよう訓練はすべきだと思う。普通くん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
She should focus on her medical skills for sure, but when the enemy finds a way past Mimi and kicks in the School's door, they won't care whether you're a soldier or a medic... I wouldn't send her to fight on the frontlines, but I would still train her so she's ready IF the frontlines get to her.
医療スキル磨くのは確かに大事やけど、敵がミミ突破して学園の扉ぶち破った時、兵士か衛生兵かなんて関係ないやん…前線には出さんけど、前線が来た時に備えて訓練はさせるわワイなら2ちゃん
coolkid_3245
Both Sheena and Mimi's VA really nailed it this episode.
SheenaもMimiも声優まじ神ってたじゃん!この回やばかったわ!ギャル
LeonKevlar
原文
I'm really worried about Ari. I hope she isn't pushing herself and following in Seiran's footsteps. 😢 While I was relieved to see Mimi come back unscathed after her first mission in a long while, it was obvious something was up when Sheena thought Mimi kept coming back unhurt only to show us Mimi leaving her bloody coat out the door. From Sheena's perspective, everything is starting to slow down , with everyone coming back alive and Mimi coming back uninjured. It turns out there haven't been any casualties recently because Mimi has been spreading herself thin on the battlefield and saving everyone. That scene where Mimi saves Esther and Rika was insane, tho! Mimi literally tanked those hits and let the enemies gather around her only to take them out all at the same time the second she started to recover. Yeah, there was no way Mimi was gonna keep this a secret forever. And to no one's surprise, this leads to a massive argument between Mimi and Sheena , which I honestly think they needed. It sucks but it's hard to argue against Mimi. If she takes everyone else's place, no one has to die. But at the same time, Sheena is right: Mimi can't do it all alone. It's insane that an entire Kingdom is letting a tiny little girl, even if she's immortal, shoulder all of this burden and pain. I honestly don't know an answer that will work out for the two of them but Fran-sensei seems to believe Sheena can change Mimi. With only two episodes left, I'm curious to see what answer these girls will find.
アリが心配だよ。無理してセイランみたいにならなきゃいいけど😢 ミミが久々の任務から無傷で戻ってきて安心したけど、シーナが「ミミはいつも無傷で帰ってくる」と思ってたら、血まみれのコートを扉の外に置いて出ていくのが見えて、何かあるのは明らかだった。シーナ視点だと全員生きて帰ってきてミミも無傷で、すべてが落ち着いてきてた。でも最近犠牲者が出てないのは、ミミが戦場で身を削って全員を救ってたからだったんだ。ミミがエステルとリカを救うシーンはやばかった!ミミが攻撃を受け止めて敵を引き寄せ、回復した瞬間に一網打尽にした。こんなのずっと隠し通せるわけないよね。案の定ミミとシーナの大喧嘩に発展したけど、正直必要なものだったと思う。ミミの言い分も否定しづらい。彼女が全員の身代わりになれば誰も死ななくて済む。でもシーナも正しい、ミミ一人じゃ無理だ。不死身とはいえ小さな女の子に王国全体の重荷と痛みを背負わせるのはおかしい。二人にとっての正解は分からないけど、フラン先生はシーナがミミを変えられると信じてるみたい。残り2話、この子たちがどんな答えを見つけるのか気になる。普通くん
eightcheesepizza
原文
I honestly don't know an answer that will work out for the two of them but Fran-sensei seems to believe Sheena can change Mimi. I wonder what Fran's goal is? Fran, Mimi, and the school/country agree about the strategic logic of having Mimi bear the burden, so what does Fran want Sheena to change about Mimi? Fran doesn't always see eye-to-eye with the military leaders, so perhaps if Mimi refuses to fight, the school/country will have to change something.
正直どうなるか分からんけどフラン先生はシーナがミミを変えられると思っとるんやろな。フランの狙いって何なんやろ?ミミが重荷を背負う戦略はフランもミミも学校も国も同意しとるのに、フランはミミの何を変えさせたいんや?フランは軍上層部と意見合わんこと多いし、もしかしたらミミが戦い拒否したら学校か国が変わるんかもしれん。2ちゃん
Roskal
原文
I think its clear from the numbers of combatants that each side has/ loses in each battle that the school would have lost this war a long time ago without Mimi and perhaps Fran's goal is to have Sheena convince Mimi to stop fighting so the school has to surrender and finally end this pointless war. its possible that the school are the bad guys here too fighting against what the rest of the people in this country or place want.
戦闘員の数を見れば、ミミがいなければ学校はとっくにこの戦争に負けてたのは明らかだね。フランの狙いはシーナにミミを説得させて戦いをやめさせ、学校を降伏させてこの無意味な戦争を終わらせることかも。学校側が悪者で、この国のみんなが望むことに逆らって戦ってる可能性もある。普通くん
mekerpan
How about this.... The fight is BECAUSE Mimi exists -- and fear that the school might produce more immortal "prodigies" like Mimi. Probably not -- but a possibility, I think.
てかこれ…ミミがいるから戦いが起きてる説あるじゃん?学校がミミみたいな不死の「天才」量産するの怖いみたいな。たぶん違うけど、ありえると思うんだよね笑ギャル
eightcheesepizza
That's a really interesting idea that I hadn't considered before. But I feel like that can't be the case, for meta reasons. We've just made Mimi sad about seeing a friend die... if she finds out the war is over her, and she feels responsible for Seiran's death and everyone else's, that's just too big for the scope of this story.
面白い視点だけど、メタ的な理由でそれはないと思う。ミミは友達の死で悲しんでるばかりなのに、戦争が自分のせいで、セイランやみんなの死の責任まで感じたら、この話の規模を超えすぎてる。普通くん
ChiliDemon
Sending out child meat shields so adults can chill at the school, school is 100% trash
子供を肉の盾に送り出して大人は学校でくつろぐとか、この学校マジでゴミすぎるわ…無理。感情くん
DocMcCoy
It's also interesting to note that "the enemy" isn't using child soldiers Big "are we the baddies?" vibes
敵が子ども兵を使ってないのも興味深いね。「俺たちが悪者なのか?」って感じだわ普通くん
mmcjawa_reborn
Definitely sending out those vibes, but it could simply be the other country is powerful and large enough that they don't need to rely on child soldiers.
その雰囲気めっちゃ出てるけど、単に相手の国が強くて大きいから子ども兵士に頼る必要がないだけかも…!感情くん
Alej_11
原文
I mean, what could Sheena possibly do? I don't want to seem mean or heartless, but Mimi's sacrifice is saving dozens of lives. Do they really have an alternative? Yeah, Mimi could return to fighting the way she was before, but that would mean letting a lot of innocent children die, so they would essentially be the indirect killers. It's one thing to let people die when you have no option to save them; it's another thing entirely to decide to let them die when a solution exists. And it would be Sheena's fault—she would be the one who decided to put Mimi above their lives. Does she really love Mimi so much that sacrificing other people's lives is a lesser evil for her? It's an extremely morally challenging dilemma from Sheena's point of view, but for us on the outside, we can tell that Mimi is factually doing the right thing. I'd want this show to have a happy ending, but up until now, it has been sadly realistic. It doesn't matter how good Sheena gets with healing magic; she cannot save more lives than Mimi can. It's the sad reality. I really want to see how they'll handle this difficult situation.
シーナに何ができんねんって話やろ。意地悪に聞こえるかもしれんけど、ミミの犠牲で何十人も助かっとるんや。他に選択肢あんのか?ミミが元みたいに戦いに戻るって手もあるけど、そしたら大勢の子供が死ぬわけで、実質殺人者やんけ。救えないならまだしも、助ける方法あるのに見殺しにするのは全然違う話や。しかもシーナのせいになるんやで。他人の命よりミミ優先って決めるんか?シーナ視点ではガチで倫理的にキツいジレンマやけど、外から見たらミミが正しいんよな。ハッピーエンド希望やけど、ここまでマジで現実的やった。治癒魔法でどう頑張ってもミミ以上に命は救えん。悲しい現実や。この難題どう処理するかガチで見たいわ。2ちゃん
ChiliDemon
Letting the school lose is the right thing, they are continuing on sunk cost fallacy, they are protecting nothing by killing off their own kids in battle just to continue to stay in power.
学校が負けるのが正解だよな!あいつらサンクコストの誤謬にハマってて、権力にしがみつくためだけに自分の生徒を戦死させてるだけ…守ってるものなんて何もない!感情くん
DocMcCoy
I guess we just don't know enough about this war and that world Will the school surrendering save the students? Or would they be executed? Is there a fictional Hague the school directors could be brought in front of for their obvious war crimes?
この戦争と世界についてまだよく分かってないんだよな。学校が降伏したら生徒は助かるのか?それとも処刑されるのか?学校の連中を戦争犯罪で裁くための架空のハーグとかあるのかね?普通くん
Drill_Dr_ill
I mean if letting the school lose only means that the school stops existing and nothing else, then yeah of course that's the right thing. But the impression that I got was that it's a war between two countries and that this is just one part of the war. The school surrendering just means the people who would be attacking this school go on to attack somewhere else instead.
学校が負けるってのが学校消滅だけならそりゃ正しいやろ。でもワイの印象だと二国間戦争の一部やん。学校降伏したら攻めてた奴ら別のとこ攻めるだけやンゴ2ちゃん
mmcjawa_reborn
Letting the school lose assumes the enemy isn't a 100x worst than the nation the school is attached to.
学校が負けるのを許すって、敵が学校が所属する国より100倍マシだって前提だよね。普通くん
Jacob-C
原文
Exactly. If we assume that they're using orphans because their resources are that depleted, I assume the cities are filled with widows and children who aren't orphans yet. If the choice is between sending mothers and their children or sending orphans, the leadership probably chose what they believed would benefit the country's future most. But it's very hard to judge when we don't even know why the war is being fought or what each side is fighting for. If their enemies are the more justified side, then the school's country is just morally bankrupt for involving innocent children. If the school's country is defending itself against an unjust war of total annihilation, it becomes much more morally complex.
まあそういうもんだよな。孤児を使うほど資源が枯渇してるなら、都市には未だ孤児になってない母子が溢れてるはずだ。母子を送るか孤児を送るかなら、指導部は国の未来に一番得だと信じた方を選んだんだろう。ただ戦争の理由も双方の目的も分からんのに判断は難しい。敵の方が正当なら、学校の国は無実の子供を巻き込んだ時点で道徳的に破綻してる。逆に不当な殲滅戦から自衛してるなら、かなり道徳的に複雑になるな。ドライおじ
ChiliDemon
attackers most likely are no better off in #s, otherwise they would leave a handful of people to deter the school from advancing and then fight elsewhere avoiding Mimi the immortal killing machine.
攻撃側も数的に有利じゃないんだろうな、じゃなきゃ学校の進行を阻止するために少数残して、不死の殺戮マシーンMimiを避けて別の場所で戦うはずだし…無理すぎる!感情くん
spubbbba
I do wonder why the fact that children are being sent off to die in a war isn't talked about more by the characters? They are having all other sort of debates about what is going on, but that doesn't come up much from the students, only the teachers.
なぜ戦争で子供たちが死地に送られているという事実について、キャラクターたちがもっと話さないのか不思議だ。他のあらゆる議論はしているのに、その点は生徒からはほとんど出てこず、教師だけが言及している。考察くん
RadianceTower
The status quo isn't talked much at all by the kids. The kids we see seem happy to keep serving the school, and even try more for that. We don't see them trying to run away or go against the school. Which makes the characters have kinda very little agency on their own.
子供たちは現状についてほとんど語らない。学校に奉仕し続けることに喜びを感じ、さらに尽くそうとする。逃げ出そうとしたり反発したりする様子もない。だからキャラたちの自主性はかなり薄いんだよね。普通くん
Meander061
I'm really worried about Ari as well. I don't think she's anymore capable of fighting than Sheena is.
ワイもアリがガチで心配やわ。あいつもシーナと同じで、もう戦える状態じゃないと思うンゴ…2ちゃん
Nickthenuker
I'm pretty sure it's not a secret anymore? Sheena's seen Mimi in a worse state before, like another comment mentioned at least this time she's got all her limbs still attached to her body.
もう秘密でもなんでもないよね?シーナはもっとヤバいミミを見たことあるし、他のコメントも言ってたけど、今回は手足がまだ体にくっついてるだけマシすぎる…!感情くん
LeonKevlar
I think you misunderstood. When I said "secret," I meant Mimi has been lying and taking the burden on her own, not that she's returning in a bag.
それ誤解やで。「秘密」って言うたんはミミが嘘ついて一人で背負い込んどるって意味や、袋に入って帰ってくる話やないンゴ2ちゃん
Nickthenuker
Ah yeah that makes sense.
ああ、確かにそれ納得だわ。普通くん
Sleepy10105s
She told Sheena to be a good little house wife
シーナにいい奥さんになれって言ったンゴwww2ちゃん
GtrsRE
"I love you, but please just don't work and stay home"
愛してるけど、仕事しないで家にいてほしい普通くん
extralie
原文
Seiran's death really got to Mimi, which I can't really fault her for, but at the same time she should let Sheena find her own footings. la creatura "You should just become my housewife, Sheena" I know she is immortal, but this gotta hurt like a bitch... and top it off, Sheena get emotionally scarred for life a second time. ...these girls REALLY need a therapist. The whole scene in the infirmary was great, I love how despite them fighting they are both motivated by survival guilt, and neither of them is necessarily wrong.... That being said, while not wrong, this was pretty insensitive from Mimi.
セイランの死がミミにガチで堪えてるのは分かるけど、シーナにも自分の道を歩ませてやれよな。la creaturaの「シーナはワイの専業主婦になればええんや」って…不死でも痛すぎるやろ…しかもシーナ、二度目の心の傷やんけ。…この娘らマジでセラピスト必要やろ。保健室のシーンは神、戦いながらも二人とも生存者としての罪悪感で動いてて、どっちも間違ってないンゴ…とはいえ、間違ってないけどミミのそれ配慮なさすぎたわ2ちゃん
Niwaka_Samurai
la creatura Cute little gremlin 😻
かわいい小悪魔ちゃん😻普通くん
BosuW
I know she is immortal, but this gotta hurt like a bitch... And you gotta remember this magic is actually even worse than bullets because the spells are shit like "Flesh shredder IV" or sm shit like that I don't think it's been mentioned if the immortality comes with pain resistance but what we do know about it gives us no reason to believe it does. Mimi's just so used to it...
彼女が不死身なのは分かってるけど、これはめちゃくちゃ痛いはず…しかもこの魔法は銃弾より酷いんだよな。「肉挽き機IV」みたいな呪文だからな。不死身に痛覚耐性が付くかは言及されてないけど、既知の情報からはそう考える根拠がない。ミミはただ慣れてしまっただけなんだ…考察くん
PERISAKLARSSON
I'm wondering why Sheena even is being prepared for combat, she's clearly completely useless in that regard. Get her into the infirmary with Fran-sensei way more instead of practicing combat. It feels like the better solution for both Mimi and Sheena too. Sheena stays out of the fight, keeping her safe, and Sheena can help Mimi with any injury or pain after battle. I hope this is what happens
なんでシーナが戦闘訓練とかしとるんやろ、あれ完全に戦力外やんけ。フラン先生と一緒に医務室にいた方がええわ。ミミもシーナもその方が幸せやろ。戦わんで安全やし、戦闘後にミミのケガの手当てもできるしな。ワイはそうなってほしいンゴ2ちゃん
extralie
Field medic are a things, and if they were to send her out there as a healer, she will still need to learn how to defend herself in worse case scenario.
衛生兵ってやつだし、仮に癒し手として前線に送られても、最悪の事態に備えて自己防衛の術は覚えなきゃならんよなwwwwおじ
PERISAKLARSSON
Hadn’t considered she could be in the field, that makes sense
彼女が現場にいる可能性は考えたことなかったけど、それは納得だね普通くん
ShinjiArakawa
Based on what we've seen and been told, field medics are not a thing (in the show). I agree that if this government recognized her value, she would be trained officially, and not informally with Ms Fran...
見た限りだと野戦衛生兵とか存在しない世界やん。この政府が彼女の価値分かってたらフラン先生じゃなくて公式に訓練させるやろな…2ちゃん
zairaner
What we are told in the show is that healing magic is incredibly rare, so there not being one so far doesn't need to mean much
アニメで癒しの魔法はすごく珍しいと言われてるから、今まで使い手が出てこないのも別に不思議じゃないんだよね。普通くん
mekerpan
>> healing magic is incredibly rare Could Sheena be the first since Mimi's mother?
癒しの魔法ってめっちゃレアなんだなw シーナがミミの母以来の一人目とかまじかよwwwwwwおじ
memelordbtw3000
i wouldn't be shocked if that's the direction its going
そういう方向に進んでも驚かないな普通くん
JimmyCWL
I'm wondering why Sheena even is being prepared for combat, They're prepping everyone for combat. It's their standard course. Sheena's simply not getting an exemption. And I think Sheena herself wants to get better at fighting.
なんでシーナが戦闘準備させられてんのか不思議なんやけど、全員戦闘訓練させられとるやん。それが普通のカリキュラムや。シーナだけ特別扱いされてへんだけや。それにシーナ自身も強くなりたいと思っとるやろ。2ちゃん
rubslotiononitsskin
considering that the enemy has launched attacks close to home base in a previous episode, not to mention that one guy lobbing off Sheena's arm, it's only a matter of time until the frontlines reach Sheena, and Mimi won't be able to stop the war from reaching the school's doors. When that time comes, Sheena's gonna have to do more than grow her own dispensary medicinal plants.
前回の話で敵が本拠地近くまで攻撃してきたし、シーナの腕を切り落とした奴もいたから、戦線がシーナたちのとこまで来るのは時間の問題だね。ミミも戦争が学校まで来るのを止められない。その時が来たら、シーナは自分で薬草を育てるだけじゃ済まなくなるよ。普通くん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
原文
Battlefield medic is the main reason, but I think the underlying reason is that they may soon run out of better options; When the war begins, countries usually start training their young men, but as it drags on, sometimes they have to go with older men, then old men, boys, women, girls, and so on; Soon as it gets to "Why are you training these ones?" it's usually because they realized they don't have enough of the ones they should be training, so they go to the next option. When they run out of actual soldiers (other than Mimi), and the war gets on their doorstep, they'll NEED Sheena to be able to do more than throw a potted plant at them. She might never be able to do much, but when someone kicks in the school's front door, 'not much' is the best they'll have to rely on.
戦場衛生兵が主な理由やけど、根本的には他にマシな選択肢がなくなるからやろな。戦争始まったら若い男を訓練するけど、長引くと年寄り、次はガキ、女、少女…って順番に回ってくるンゴ。「なんでこいつら訓練してんの?」ってなった時は大概、本来訓練すべき人員が足りんくなった証拠や。ミミ以外の兵士が尽きて戦火がすぐそこまで来たら、シーナに鉢植え投げる以上のことを求めるしかなくなる。大した戦力にはならんかもしれんが、学校の正面ドア蹴破られた時はその「大したことない」が頼みの綱なんやで。2ちゃん
DugACCat
原文
Yeah the whole system feels very dubious. Like the orphans are only worthwhile if they can kill with their magic and no other use is fostered or encouraged. They did say healing magic is rare and perhaps they don’t have a system for it since it’s usually not worth training? But it certainly seems like it’d be worth making an attempt with the rare individuals who aren’t good at battle magic but do show restoration capability. Disregarding it entirely seems very short sighted. Of course the larger issue is the inhumanity of sending all these children to war in the first place. It’s both an understandable creative decision but also frustrating that our POV is so narrow we have no sense of the larger conflict or war. I do kinda wish we’d occasionally hear the teachers let slip a little more.
このシステム全体がすごい怪しいよね。孤児たちは魔法で殺せて初めて価値があるみたいで、他の使い道は育成も推奨もされてない。治癒魔法は珍しいし、普通は訓練する価値もないからシステムがないのかも?でも戦闘魔法が苦手で回復能力がある希少な子に試す価値はありそう。無視するのは近視眼的だよ。もちろん最大的な問題は、子どもたちを戦争に送ること自体の非人道さ。理解できる創作判断だけど、視点が狭すぎて大きな戦争の全体像が見えないのももどかしい。先生たちが時々ぽろっと言うのをもっと聞きたいな。普通くん
whyrusosensitive
I have considered more than once that the whole war is just population control. Essentially sending students from 2 different schools to murder each other.
てかこの戦争まじで人口調整じゃん?2つの学校の生徒殺し合わせてるだけだしやばくね?ギャル
Gorgon31
Yeah, the 'war' seems ~off~. Un-uniformed, loose groups fighting in open woodlands... not contesting strategic territory, choke-points, resources or any other clear objectives other than, 'killing the other guys'? Not so much as a bridge or pass to take, nary a raid on a logistic train indicating a pushing of boundaries? I think we're seeing less a war and more of a biological weapons program.
うん、この「戦争」はなんかズレてる。制服もバラバラで、森で集団が戦ってるだけ…戦略的な領土も要所も資源も争ってないし、目的は「相手を殺す」だけ?橋も峠も奪わないし、補給線への襲撃もない。これって戦争というより生物兵器計画なんじゃないかな。普通くん
Jacob-C
原文
Could also just be that the author isn't too knowledgeable about how actual warfare works in practice, or that they simply didn't put too much effort into it because it's not the main point. After all, the point is the grief and suffering that war causes, and the relationships built in spite of that, which the series portrays really well. But it would be cool if there were an actual reason behind the disorganised battles.
作者が実際の戦争の仕組みに詳しくないか、戦争が主題じゃないからそこまで力入れてないだけという考察もできる。要は戦争が生む悲しみや苦しみ、それでも築かれる関係性が本作の見どころで、そこは本当に上手く描けてる。ただ、あの混沌とした戦闘に何か理由があれば熱いよな。考察くん
Boredomkiller99
Ding ding ding, we have a winner
ピンポンピンポン、当たりだね普通くん
DugACCat
Yeah I definitely get it’s not the point. And honestly I mostly appreciate the narrower perspective and focus. Just feels a little unfortunate in the case of Sheena’s testing focus. It’d still be suspenseful and worrying if she was sent into battle as a medic since she’d be exposed to risk of harm and death even if not an active combatant. Especially if the enemy prioritized taking out healers.
確かに本筋じゃないのは分かってる。狭い視点と焦点はむしろ好みだ。ただSheenaの試験描写は少し残念。衛生兵として戦場に送られても、非戦闘員でも危険や死に晒されるから緊張感はある。敵が回復役を優先的に狙うなら尚更だ。考察くん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
原文
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mekerpan
Definitely more like Battle Royale than a traditional war.
伝統的な戦争ってより完全にバトルロワイヤルじゃん!感情くん
mmcjawa_reborn
The other combatants seem like adult (or at least older) men. So I doubt they are orphans
他の戦闘員は大人の男たち(少なくとも年上)っぽいから、孤児じゃないと思うんだよね。普通くん
Over-Doughnut2020
Lack of pawns maybe? I mean they dont care if those kid die anyway. Meat shield is still a meat shield.
ポーン不足なんじゃね?てかあの子ら死んでもどーでもいいんだし。肉の盾は肉の盾じゃん笑ギャル
PERISAKLARSSON
Well a lack of pawns is one thing, but willfully using someone that can reduce your loss of pawns as one is an odd decision to say the least
ポーン不足はともかく、ポーンの損失を減らせる相手をわざわざポーン扱いするのは、控えめに言っても妙な判断すぎる…!感情くん
Over-Doughnut2020
Hmmm. I do agree with you on that. Shiina is still trying to learn her magic. So its not yet a deciding factor on the situation, that is why she cant answer mimi. She know her magic but doesnt know the extent of her magic and thats why she wanted to train it.
うーん、それには同意だね。椎名はまだ自分の魔法を学んでる途中だから、状況を決める要素にはまだなってないんだよ。だからミミに答えられないんだ。自分の魔法は分かってるけど、その限界までは分かってなくて、だから鍛えたかったんだね。普通くん
tykuiiii
原文
I doubt the bureaucracy accounts for or cares to do their due diligence. They've resulted to sending children to war on a school / orphanage that is a step away from a frontline. Unless Fran can get her to the point where she can heal a human, I don't think the ones in charge care she can heal flowers regardless of rarity :L (I'm not saying it is smart, but considering the issues we've seen and how they're being handled that's the impression I'm getting out of their government as a whole). I don't recall how they dealt with Mimi's mother for using forbidden magic, but for such a rare healer with immense talent to be tossed for using a magic classified as forbidden doesn't leave a good impression on their ability to judge value.
官僚どもがそんなん気にするわけないやろ。戦地スレスレの学校兼孤児院から子供を戦争に送り込む時点で終わっとるわ。フランが人間治せるようにならん限り、花治せても「は?だから?」って感じやろどうせ。ミミの母親が禁術使った時の対応も覚えとらんけど、そんな才能ある希少な治癒師を禁術ごときでポイする時点で組織の見る目ガチで終わっとるンゴ…2ちゃん
CitronClassic672
Well the only forbidden magic Mimi’s mother used was resurrection magic, and it kinda killed her before she could be punished.
ミミの母が使った禁術は蘇生魔法だけで、罰を受ける前に死んじゃったんだよね。普通くん
Hitman7128
Episode reopens old wounds. Flashback of the mock battle where Sheena lost her arm and then Seiran's death. Poor Mimi, badly injured after that battle, as well as Sheena for having to see Mimi return home in such a state. I can get the white lie that Mimi was trying to do, but as Omi said, Sheena would find out eventually. But regardless, it stung listening to their argument.
このエピソード、古傷をえぐってくるな。シーナが腕を失った模擬戦と、その後のセイランの死の回想シーン。あの戦いの後、ミミはひどい怪我を負って、そんな姿で帰ってくるミミを見なきゃいけなかったシーナもつらかっただろう。ミミがつこうとした善意の嘘は理解できるけど、オミの言う通り、シーナはいずれ知ることになる。それでも、二人の言い争いを聞くのは胸に刺さったよ。考察くん
thisisdropd
原文
Mimi's logic certainly was sound. She's immortal so she could just tank it and relieve the pressure from her peers. Unfortunately, the human emotion was nothing if not illogical. There's no way Sheena could get through to Mimi like that. She needed to sit back and compose her arguments before having a talk with Mimi again. Good on Fran-sensei for being a third party that could evaluate what Sheena did wrong. The school should forget about having Sheena sit the test like the others when she's better served for healing. It's like judging an elephant by its ability to jump.
ミミの理屈は確かに筋通っとるわ。不死身やから耐えられるし仲間の負担も減る。でも人間の感情ってのは非論理的やからな。あんなやり方じゃシーナの気持ちはミミに届かんわ。ちょっと引いて頭冷やしてからもう一回話すべきやったな。フラン先生が第三者としてシーナのミスを評価したのはグッジョブや。シーナは治癒に向いとるんやから、他の奴らと同じ試験受けさせるのはやめろや。象の跳躍力で評価するようなもんやぞ。2ちゃん
Lunchb0xx87
Sheena is also right about her having to suffer so much is being unfair even if the war calls for it
シーナの言う通りすぎる…あんなに苦しむの、戦争でも理不尽すぎて無理…泣いた感情くん
Niwaka_Samurai
原文
It felt like Mimi was throwing herself now more than ever in harm's way after witnessing Seiran's death. Mimi was right about Sheena not making any sense and Sheena knows that already but still she doesn't want to see her getting hurt. I still can't get over how tragic these kids' lives are. Glad to see that at least a single adult like Fran believing in Sheena that she can do something about this fucked up situation of the kids. I wonder if those enemy mages attack them just hoping to get rid of Mimi.
ミミはセイランの死を見てから、前よりずっと無茶をするようになった気がする。シーナが理不尽なのはミミの言う通りで、シーナ自身も分かってるのに、それでもミミが傷つくのは見たくないんだよね。この子たちの人生が悲劇すぎて本当に辛い。せめてフランみたいな大人が一人でもシーナを信じてくれてるのは救いだわ。敵の魔法使いって、ただミミを排除したいだけなのかな。普通くん
CitronClassic672
原文
I’m so happy with how the series has handled Seiran’s death. It wasn’t just shock factor nor tragedy for the sake of tragedy. It has had a tangible impact on Mimi, Sheena, and Ari’s characters in the aftermath. Sheena is committed to being more useful and helpful. Mimi wants to protect Sheena and everyone from getting hurt more than ever. And Ari… yeah. I like that the series didn’t go with the standard morality of a situation like this and actually framed Mimi as (mostly) in the right in that makes sense that an immortal like her should bear the burden if it makes regular students don’t have to die, but Sheena can still help the situation with her healing magic. Fundamentally they both want the same thing.
Seiranの死の扱いが本当に良かった。ただの衝撃や悲劇のための悲劇じゃなく、その後Mimi、Sheena、Ariのキャラに確かな影響を与えてる。Sheenaはより役に立とうとし、Mimiは皆を守りたいと強く願う。Ariは…うん。この状況に標準的な道徳を持ち込まず、Mimiを(ほぼ)正しいと描いたのが良い。不死の彼女が負担を負えば普通の生徒が死なずに済むし、Sheenaも治癒魔法で助けられる。根底では二人とも同じことを望んでるという考察ができる。考察くん
whyrusosensitive
原文
Unfortunately I agree with mimi. Why send students out to die and have more seirens when mimi the immortal can handle things? All season I've been waiting for mimi to get abducted by the enemy while she is in pieces, the situation she is putting herself in now seems like the most likely time for that to happen but idk if its that kind of show given we still know literally nothing about the opposing side in the war. Even though she's mad at sheena mimi still had to say goodnight....im wondering if we get another slow thoughtful episode for the finale or something awful happens and they leave us on a cliffhanger
ミミの言う通りやわ。なんで生徒を死なせてセイレーン増やすん?不死のミミがいればええやん。今の状況、ミミがバラバラで敵に攫われる展開ワイずっと待っとったわ。でも敵のこと何も分からんしな…。シーナに怒っててもおやすみは言うミミ草。最終回は静かな回か、地獄のクリフハンガーか…2ちゃん
DirectionOriginal456
The problem is that Mimi still feels pain. It's watching your loved one get tortured everyday so a bunch of strangers can live. I'm with Sheena on this one.
問題はミミがまだ苦しんでることだよね。見知らぬ大勢のために、愛する人が毎日拷問されるのを見てるようなものじゃん。今回はシーナに同意だわ。普通くん
BosuW
Well, not strangers. They're also her classmates and friends. Doesn't make it hurt any less of course
てか他人じゃないじゃん!クラスメイトで友達でもあるんだよね。でもまじで痛みは減らないんだけど笑ギャル
whyrusosensitive
I mean no doubt its awful for Sheena (which is why she should have listened to mimi and been a good housewife) but from an objective/egalitarian viewpoint it doesnt really matter how much mimi suffers, at the end of the day better one person suffer than dozens die and more get injured.
シーナにとっては確かに悲惨だが(だからこそミミの言うことを聞いて良妻になるべきだった)、客観的・平等な視点で言えば、ミミがどれだけ苦しもうと本質的には問題ではない。結局のところ、何十人も死に、さらに多くの人が傷つくより、一人が苦しむ方がマシだという考察ができる。考察くん
extralie
That's easier said than done. It's easy to say that this is the objectively right thing to do from an outside perspective, but from Sheena's perspective, Mimi is just asking her to stay silent and watch the person she cares about the most suffer in a war that they have no hope of winning, it's just a cruel thing to ask from her no matter how objectively "correct" it is.
口で言うのは簡単だよね。外から見ればこれが客観的に正しいことだと言うのは簡単だけど、Sheenaの立場からしたら、Mimiはただ黙って、一番大切な人が勝ち目のない戦争で苦しむのを見ていろって言ってるようなもの。どれだけ客観的に「正しい」としても、彼女にそれを求めるのは残酷すぎるよ。普通くん
CitronClassic672
I wonder how much the validity of each side’s argument would change if we saw Mimi more visibly experience the lingering trauma from all the pain and deaths she’s experienced in battle.
ミミが戦いで味わった痛みと死のトラウマをもっと見せてたら、両陣営の言い分の説得力ってどれだけ変わってたんだろう…考えすぎて無理…!感情くん
BosuW
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The utilitarian view often doesn't consider that there's a psychological and morale toll for such actions, however. The math can math, but human beings are more than numbers and stats. Where do you see this small community going if Mimi has to take on even greater burden until her only moments of respite is coming home to a domesticated Sheena? Where do you see their relationship going? Therefore, even though it's true that Mimi being on the battlefield saves lives, the emotions still have to be addressed.
功利主義的な視点は、そうした行為に心理的・士気的な代償があることを見落としがちだという考察ができる。数字上は成り立っても、人間は数字やデータ以上の存在だ。ミミがさらなる重荷を背負い、癒しが飼いならされたシーナの元へ帰る時だけになったら、この小さな共同体はどこへ向かうのか。二人の関係はどうなるのか。ゆえにミミの戦場参加が命を救うのは事実でも、感情面のケアは避けられない。考察くん
gnome-cop
Objectively speaking, Mimi’s way is the better option but emotionally, I hate it. Utilitarianism’s about maximizing positive benefits on paper, no room for the emotional or moral impacts. [Madoka spoilers] Points to that fucking satanic rat.
客観的に言えばミミのやり方が最善なんだろうけど、感情的には嫌だわ。功利主義って紙の上で利益を最大化するだけで、感情や道徳的な影響は考慮しないじゃん。[まどマギネタバレ] あのクソネズミのことか。普通くん
rainbowrobin
no room for the emotional or moral impacts. Getting more students killed also has emotional and moral impacts...
感情的・道徳的影響を考える余地がないとか言うけど、生徒がもっと死ぬことにも感情的・道徳的影響があるんだよな…感情くん
RadianceTower
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Benefits to who? Mimi is killing a ton of enemies on the battlefield each time, what about them? Are you just ignoring those? If so you are picking sides after all. That's putting aside the fact that Mimi doing what she does could be perpetuating the war, causing even more death, instead of say trying to negotiate for peace, but the series has had paper thin worldbuilding so far, so we don't even know much about what the war is about even. Things aren't simple like that.
誰にとっての利益?ミミは戦場で毎回大量に敵を殺してるんだが、そいつらは?無視してる?なら結局肩持ってるじゃん。しかもミミの行為が戦争を長引かせてさらに死者を増やしてる可能性だってある。平和交渉とかじゃなくてさ。でもこの作品は世界観が薄っぺらいから戦争の内容すらよく分からん。物事はそんな単純じゃない。普通くん
Lunchb0xx87
even if she cant die they might capture her one day and do who knows what to her
死なないとしても、いつか捕まって何されるか分かんないよ…無理すぎる…!感情くん
Inevitable_Citron981
It's interesting to note that the background music played during Sheena and Mimi's argument is the same music played in the first reveal trailer.
シーナとミミの口論の時に流れてたBGM、最初の公開トレーラーと同じ曲なの興味深いね。普通くん
marshmallow_sunshine
They also used a couple little animations from the reveal trailer in Mimi's fight, they just put them on a different background.
ミミの戦闘シーンで公開トレーラーのアニメちょっと使い回してたんか、背景だけ変えて。草2ちゃん
CitronClassic672
I thought that shot of Mimi getting skewered by all the magic beams looked familiar.
ミミが魔法のビームで串刺しにされるシーン、どっかで見たことある気がしてたんだよね…!感情くん
Meander061
Man, they turned up the volume on that music, so we could hear it over their fighting, I suppose.
ワイらに戦闘中の音楽聞かせるために音量上げてきたんか、草2ちゃん
Armdel
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i half expected Mimi to be telling the other students who got deployed to just wait around until the fighting was over. but i guess the word would have spread very quickly then. also when they came and picked her up in the forest i thought she was actually getting kidnapped for a bit there and that it was gonna be the big thing for the final arc and yeah shitty situation all around. having Mimi who can survive getting damaged taking on almost all the fighting be logical even if her carrying all the burden alone is wrong. I figure we are due for some drama with only a few episodes left of the season
ミミが戦場に送られた他の生徒たちに「戦いが終わるまで待機しろ」と言うかと思ってたんだけどな。でもそれだと噂がすぐ広まっただろうし。あと森でミミが迎えに来られた時、一瞬本当に誘拐されるのかと思って、それが最終章の大きな展開になるのかと。全体的にマジで最悪な状況だよな。ダメージを受けても生き残れるミミがほぼ全部の戦闘を引き受けるのは理屈としては通ってる、彼女が一人で全ての重荷を背負うのが間違ってても。シーズン残り数話でそろそろドラマが来る頃だと思う。考察くん
Niwaka_Samurai
also when they came and picked her up in the forest i thought she was actually getting kidnapped for a bit there and that it was gonna be the big thing for the final arc Was thinking the same
森で迎えに来た時、ガチで誘拐されるんかと思ったわ。最終章の大事件になるんかと。ワイも同じこと考えとったで2ちゃん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
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when they came and picked her up in the forest i thought she was actually getting kidnapped Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't happened already; I think I've been speculating on this ever since the "I'm immortal/I'm already dead" thing... The enemies even confirmed they know she can't die, so... Why are they sending soldiers into the meat grinder every day? They need to either find a way to kill her for good, or to take her away from those who can fix her... Otherwise they're just sending people to the slaughter for no reason.
森で彼女を迎えに来た時はマジで誘拐されるのかと思った。正直、まだ誘拐されてないのが不思議なくらい。「私は不死身/もう死んでる」って話が出てからずっと考察してた。敵も彼女が死なないと知ってるんだから、なんで毎日兵士を消耗品みたいに送り込むんだ?完全に殺す方法を見つけるか、彼女を治せる人たちから引き離すかしないと、意味なく人を死なせてるだけじゃん。普通くん
Nikita2337
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Do they actually know? Like I'm surprised too they haven't been able to capture her yet since her healing still needs time to work. But if we assume that the enemy really doesn't realize she's immortal, since there's no communication between the soldiers and the headquarters, then that makes sense. The soldiers that took her out on the bridge seemed not totally aware what was going on and who they'd just fought.
敵はマジで知らんのか?ワイもビックリやわ、回復に時間かかるのにまだ捕まえられへんとか。でも兵士と本部が連絡取ってないなら、不死身ってバレてないのも納得やな。橋で戦った兵士も状況わかってへんかったしな。2ちゃん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
Do they actually know? Like I'm surprised too they haven't been able to capture her yet since her healing still needs time to work. They didn't straight up say it, but it seemed heavily implied; After shooting her a dozen times one of them asked "Is she dead"? But the others replied "Probably just unconscious". (Compared to other girls they shot ONCE and assumed they were dead/gonna die)
彼女たちは本当に理解してるのか?という考察ができる。回復には時間がかかるのに、なぜ捕まえられないのか不思議だ。直接は言及されてないが、強く示唆されていた。何発も撃った後「死んだか?」と聞き、仲間は「気絶しただけだろう」と返した。他の少女は一発で死んだと判断してたのに、これは彼女の特異性を示す伏線だと思われる。考察くん