#10きみが死ぬまで恋をしたい
放送 2026-09-08更新 2026-09-11
Armdel
Still so sad seeing Ari sitting by herself.. And they keep showing the necklace in a way that makes me feel like it will be important in the future. Major point in this episode was Mimi can get quite jealous
アリが1人で座ってるの見るとまだ悲しい…。ネックレスも今後重要になりそうな描き方だよね。今回のポイントはミミがかなり嫉妬深いってことだった。普通くん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
Major point in this episode was Mimi can get quite jealous The school isn't ready for the Yandere-Mimi arc
この話のポイントはミミが結構嫉妬深いってこと!学校はヤンデレミミ編の準備ができてない…しんどい…!感情くん
Ashamed_Bend_3519
Jealousy definitely adds a layer of complexity to her character. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out in future episodes!
嫉妬心があることで、彼女のキャラに深みが出るよね。今後のエピソードでどう描かれるか楽しみ!普通くん
Komarist
But I am ready for it
拙者、覚悟はできておるでござる。武士
gvon89
The pink hair gives me flashbacks of Yuno gasai
その桃色の髪…我が魂にYuno gasaiの残像が蘇るのだ。中二病
CitronClassic672
Well at minimum it’s the probably the closest thing to a memento of Seiran in Ari’s eyes.
少なくともアリから見れば、セイランを偲ぶ唯一の形見に近いものかもしれないね。普通くん
runevault
原文
It is but the fact it keeps getting solo camera time (instead of say just being worn by Ari) feels like it has plot significance and not just a memento for Ari. Someone suggested before that something about that necklace will be enough of an anchor to allow revive magic like was used on Mimi and the fact they keep showing it prevents me from letting go of my fear of Ari doing that, even if she did say the right thing before about not wanting to make Seiran suffer with knowing someone killed themselves for her (and that she'd then be immortal).
ネックレスがアリに着けられてるだけじゃなく単独でカメラに映るのは、形見以上の伏線だという考察ができる。ミミに使われた蘇生魔法のアンカーになるのではという指摘もあり、アリがそれをやらかす恐怖が拭えない。シアランを苦しませたくないと言っていたが、それでも不安は消えない。考察くん
extralie
Still so sad seeing Ari sitting by herself That's not necessarily a bad thing, sometimes it's good to have a time for yourself to process grief.
アリが1人で座ってるの見るとまだ悲しくなるな。でも必ずしも悪いことじゃなくて、悲しみと向き合う1人の時間も時には必要だよね。普通くん
BBryant3rd
This is true doesn't make us feel sad for a favorite any less.
それな…推しへの悲しみは全然減らないんだよな…しんどい。感情くん
shewy92
"Snacks and dinner can wait" That's the most romantic thing Mimi has ever thought to herself lol. Sheena really is special to her. I hope she starts to understand that Sheena just wants to be useful and that's why she's studying and practicing so much.
「おやつも晩ごはんも後回しでええわ」ってミミが心の中で思ったの、ガチで一番ロマンチックやんwww シーナはミミにとって特別なんやな。シーナがただ役に立ちたいだけやって、そのために必死に勉強も練習もしてるって、ミミが早く理解してくれるといいンゴね。2ちゃん
mekerpan
Almost unimaginable that Mimi would put anything before snacks and dinner.
ミミがおやつと夕食より大事なものを優先するなんて、ほぼ想像できない…!感情くん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
Sheena, you're the snack now!
シーナ殿、今やお主が菓子にされ候か!武士
TheMythofKoalas
Sheena: Would you like snacks, dinner, or... me ?
シーナ「お菓子?夕食?それとも…私?」感情くん
rainbowrobin
Mimi: Yes!
ミミ:うん!普通くん
mokuhazushi
原文
That last scene felt very important, but not just because of the kiss. Mimi pretty clearly told Sheena that she wants their friendship/relationship to be more "equal". She doesn't just want Sheena to take care of her, worry about her, and help her deal with coming back from deployments. She wants to help and support Sheena too, just like Sheena supports and helps her. Feels like a pretty big step to change the dynamic between them.
最後のシーンはキスのためだけじゃなく重要だという考察ができる。ミミはシーナに「対等」な関係を望むと明確に伝えていた。世話や心配だけでなく、シーナを支えたいという意思表示。二人の関係性の大きな転換点だと思われる。考察くん
epicfail1994
Yeah Sheena has been (along with Fran) basically a substitute mother for Mimi
うん、SheenaはFranと一緒に、Mimiにとってほぼ母親代わりだったんだよね。感情くん
extralie
原文
Wanting to be useful is good , but never forget to give your wife some attention, or she will be extra clingy and pouty. In public!? Think of the other children, Sheena! Jealous Mimi is cute! Even if I'm worried she might stab someone. Oh, she is a girl? Or maybe not? Honestly, I'm more confused now about what Haru identify at. Honestly, this scene feel like Mimi is starting to see Sheena romantically. Even if she doesn't fully get it yet. Like, I know they kissed before, but this is the first time it feel like there is more emotion behind it.
役に立ちたい気持ちはいいけど、奥さんをちゃんと構わないとヤキモチ焼きで不機嫌になっちゃうよ。しかも公衆の面前で!?他の子たちのことも考えてあげて、Sheena!ヤキモチ焼きのMimiは可愛いね!誰かを刺しちゃわないか心配だけど。あれ、彼女って女の子?もしかして違う?正直、Haruが何として認識してるのかますます混乱してきた。このシーンはMimiがSheenaに恋愛感情を抱き始めてるように感じる。まだ完全には理解してなくても。前にキスしたのは知ってるけど、今回はその裏にもっと感情があるように初めて感じた。普通くん
DugACCat
原文
Unless I’m mistaken it’s just Hal prefers to dress more like a boy, which some people treat as weird and don’t interact with her. Could be she has complex feelings about gender that don’t conform with the more rigid society but is a bit too early to tell. Either way, there seems to be a small friendship starting between the three (even with Mimi’s jealousy), which is likely a good thing given Hal’s isolation.
ハルの男装は単に好みの問題で、それを奇異に思う周囲が距離を置いているだけだという考察ができる。ただし、より厳格な社会に馴染めないジェンダーへの複雑な感情を抱えている可能性もあるが、判断にはまだ早い。いずれにせよ、ミミの嫉妬はあれど三人の間に小さな友情が芽生えつつあるのは、ハルの孤立を踏まえると良い兆しだと思われる。考察くん
CitronClassic672
原文
This is in part colored by my own experience, but from how that scene was framed it feels like Haru/Hal is a trans man but either isn’t out about that yet or might not even fully realize it themselves, hence being referred to as she, and limits themselves to solely dressing in a masculine manner for the time being. Their reaction to Mimi’s comments didn’t feel like someone expecting criticism for how they dress, it felt more like someone being outted and bracing for an attack on their entire identity.
自分の経験も影響してるけど、あのシーンの描き方的にハルはトランス男性で、まだカミングアウトしてないか本人も自覚してないから「彼女」と呼ばれてて、今は男装だけに留めてるんだと思う。ミミの言葉への反応は服装を批判されると思った感じじゃなくて、カミングアウトさせられてアイデンティティ全体を攻撃される覚悟の反応だった。普通くん
Zeph-Shoir
Worth mentioning that while the subs started using "she" to refer to Hal, the Japanese audio didn't. Funnily enough this is how I realized they were avoiding gendering Hal at all. I don't know what the intent or plan is yet (or if there is one at all) but the scene did feel to have some amount of "gravitas" when Mimi mentioned it and it is natural to wonder about it in a show that is already queer
ハルの呼称、字幕は「she」だけど音声は避けてるんだよな。これで性別を曖昧にしてる意図に気づいた。ミミが言及したシーンの重みを踏まえると、クィア作品だけに考察が捗るという考察ができる。考察くん
Nachtwandler_FS
I had the same tought, but not enough information yet.
それな!でもまだ情報足りないんだよねーギャル
Niwaka_Samurai
原文
We saw more of jealous Mimi this episode. It's painful to see Hal always being sick. I really thought Hal was a boy dressed as a girl when I saw her in the uniform until Mimi pointed out that she's actually a girl who sometimes dresses as a boy. Sheena said that Mimi's heart isn't clouded like the others but it doesn't seem to be the case now 'cause all Mimi thinks about now is Sheena and her well-being. Why do they scare us like that ? Though we know nothing's gonna happen for them when they fall from that height, it still made me panic. Peak kiss 💖 I guess Sheena should get herself hurt a lot to get those healing kisses very often.
今回はミミの嫉妬シーンが多めだったね。ハルがずっと体調悪いのは見てて辛い。制服姿のハルを見た時は男子が女装してるのかと思ったけど、ミミが「実は女の子で時々男装する」って言うまで気づかなかった。シーナは「ミミの心は他の子と違って曇ってない」って言ってたけど、今はシーナのことしか考えてないからそうでもなさそう。なんであんな怖がらせ方するんだろう?あの高さから落ちても大丈夫って分かっててもパニックになったよ。最高のキスだった💖 シーナはよく怪我してあの癒しキスをもらうべきだね。普通くん
CitronClassic672
I also thought Hal was a bot dressed as a girl when I first saw them. Surprised it was the other way around. Idk, with this show I was kind of expecting the fall to break Mimi’s neck or something. Mimi’d be fine of course but it’d mess up Sheena.
ハルを最初見た時、女装したボットかと思ったよ。逆だったのは驚いたな。まあ、この作品ならミミが転落で首でも折るかと予想してた。ミミは平気だろうが、シーナが参るだろうな。ドライおじ
Nachtwandler_FS
It was pretty interesting when Shiina called Mimi pure-hearted and Mimi remember all of the bouts of hidden jealosy she had that day. I wonder, if there will be any actual romance progression in the show? Because for now it seems like MImi is actually in love with Shiina, but Shiina herself has no idea.
シイナがミミを純粋だと言った時、ミミがその日の嫉妬を思い出したのは面白かった。今後実際に恋愛が進展するのか気になる。今のところミミはシイナに恋してるけど、シイナは気づいてないっぽい。普通くん
Cass0wary_399
I thought Hal was a boy straight up. But this is Yuri we cannot have prominent male characters I guess.
ハル、完全に男の子だと思ってたわ。でもこれ百合だから、目立つ男キャラは出せないってことか…しんどい。感情くん
Weak_Season_Of_Anime
原文
A romantic kiss in the most dusty basement of the school, the way its framed feels kind of melancholic . Anyway, I think Mimi was just jealous and wanted to kiss lol, maybe one day they'll do it without needing the healing. Wonder what they're planning for Hal, like how are they going to send this fragile kid to the battlefield? Sheena's healing magic? Also, interesting that Hal turned out to be crossdressing. New flowers on Mimi and Sheena's table .
学校で一番埃っぽい地下室でのロマンチックなキス、その演出がなんか物悲しい感じだったね。とにかくミミは嫉妬してキスしたかっただけだと思う笑、いつか治癒なしでできるといいね。ハルをどうするつもりなのか気になる、あの儚い子をどう戦場に送るんだろう?シーナの治癒魔法?あとハルが女装してたのは意外だった。ミミとシーナの机に新しい花が。普通くん
Jacob-C
the way its framed feels kind of melancholic I also noticed a tinge of bittersweetness in that scene...
その演出の仕方、なんか哀愁漂ってるよなw あのシーン、ほろ苦さもちょっと感じたわ笑wwwおじ
LunaRunaRoll
I mean their situation (especially mimi's) is not great honestly. In fact it's pretty bleak.
てか2人の状況まじでやばいよね、特にミミ!正直かなり絶望的じゃん…ギャル
LeonKevlar
原文
Seeing Ari sitting alone still stings. I really wish she would hang out with Mimi and Sheena more. 😢 After all the sadness these past couple of episodes, it's actually nice to see Mimi being silly and a pain in the butt while Sheena is trying to concentrate on her healing magic. We get to see Haru again! Also it turns out that his name is actually Hal . It seems the subtitler made a mistake when Hal was first introduced back in Episode 5. I checked Episode 5, and it looks like they still haven't corrected that mistake. Looks like someone's getting jealous after watching Sheena take care of Hal. I can understand how Mimi feels. It's just been the two of them most of the time, so seeing Sheena take care of someone would make Mimi feel jealous. I can definitely see Mimi giving Sheena those hairstyles if she let her mess with her hair. Honestly, the middle one doesn't look too bad! OH! Hal is a girl who dresses up like a boy! Not gonna lie, considering how Mimi was clearly being jealous of Hal , I thought Mimi didn't like her. Mimi actually thinks she's cool and even wants to own a pair of shorts just like Hal. Also, the lack of reaction from Sheena probably means she already knew that Hal is also a girl? She probably figured it out when she assisted Hal to the girls' dormitory instead of the boys'. And look at how happy Hal is after Mimi told her that she looks good in boys' clothes. She probably gets a lot of weird looks from other students for dressing up differently. We only have three episodes left, but I hope we get to learn more about her. That library basement scene was definitely needed! I'm glad Mimi got to open up about her feelings and tell Sheena how she really feels. And the restoration magic kiss makes a comeback! I was worried we wouldn't see it again until maybe the final episode.
アリが一人で座ってるの見ると今でも胸が痛む。ミミとシーナともっと一緒にいてほしいな😢 ここ数話の暗い展開のあとだと、ミミがふざけてシーナが治癒魔法に集中しようとしてるのを見るのは逆に微笑ましい。ハルも再登場!しかも名前はHalだったんだね。第5話で字幕が間違えたままらしい。シーナがハルを看病してるの見て誰かさんがヤキモチ。ミミの気持ちはわかる。ずっと二人きりだったんだもんね。ハルって男装の女の子だったのか!ミミがハルを羨ましがってたから嫌いなのかと思ってたけど、実はカッコいいと思ってて同じショートパンツ欲しがってた。シーナが無反応なのは前から気づいてたからかも。女子寮に案内した時点でわかるよね。男装を褒められてハルが嬉しそうなのがいい。残り3話だけど彼女のこともっと知りたい。図書室の地下室シーンは必要だった!ミミが本音を話せてよかった。あの回復魔法のキスも復活!最終回まで見れないかと心配してたよ。普通くん
TheBusStop12
Seeing Ari sitting alone still stings. I really wish she would hang out with Mimi and Sheena more. 😢 I think Ari probably needs some time. It's painful to watch, but I'm glad the show leaves her alone for a bit to give her time to grieve
アリが一人で座ってるの見るとガチで胸が痛むンゴ…ミミとシーナともっと一緒にいてほしいわ😢 でもアリには時間が必要なんやろな。見てるのは辛いけど、悲しむ時間を与えるためにあえて一人にさせてるんやな…せやな2ちゃん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
We only have three episodes left, but I hope we get to learn more about her. I don't know about you, but I'm a bit wary of this show building up a character some more 3 episodes before the end! Though it may be Sheena's first opportunity to use restoration magic for something huge!
残り3話だが、彼女のことをもっと知りたいという考察ができる。終盤3話前にキャラを掘り下げる展開は少し警戒してしまうが、シーナが修復魔法を大規模に使う初の機会かもしれないな。考察くん
PersonalContest1423
Are you suggesting shes going to grow hal a di...oh you mean cure her illness. Yeah that would be cool
もしかして彼女が半分…ああ、病気を治すってことね。それいいかも普通くん
CitronClassic672
No I think you were right the first time. This is already a world of magic capable of granting immortality, It can’t be that difficult to use it for a sex change should someone want it.
我が最初の推測こそ真理であったのだ。既に不死をも与えうる魔法の世界……性を変えることなど造作もない、望む者にとってはな。中二病
JackieTilesGW
Wish magic was real so i could magically snip it off and become a girl
魔法がガチで実在してほしいわ、そしたら魔法でポイッて切って女の子になれるのに2ちゃん
CitronClassic672
Maybe one day
いつかねwwwwおじ
CitronClassic672
原文
While Ari’s isolation is potentially concerning hopefully it’s just that she needs so time alone to process her own grief. I like how the show has handled the tone the past several episodes. Episode 6 was full of suspense and anxiety from all of Seiran’s death flags. Episode 7 continued that for most of the episode, finally convinced you that Seiran would actually survive at the end, only to quickly snatch that hope away from you at the very end. Then episode 8 forces you from shock and numbness at the loss to sadness and pain as you realize the severity of the loss. Episode 9’a tone is painful at the start and then lightens up a bit as it explores how Seiran’s death influences Sheena to change as a person. Now episode 10 had a pretty lighthearted tone throughout the entire episode as it mentions that everyone is adjusting to their new lives without Seiran. They aren’t back to normal like it didn’t happen, but time moves on and they keep living their lives. The show really makes the tone conveyed to the audience match with that current state of the characters. Agreed, that middle hairstyle actually looks decent. Nice catch that Sheena probably realized Haru was a girl when taking them back to their dorm. I didn’t realize that. Though I’m not sure if Haru would actually identify as a girl by choice. Their reaction felt a bit more severe than you’d expect from someone who simply was gender non conforming.
アリの孤立は気になるが、自分の悲しみと向き合う時間が必要なだけだろうな。ここのところの話のトーン運びは悪くない。6話はセイランの死亡フラグで張り詰めた空気、7話は生き残ると思わせて最後に希望を奪う。8話で喪失の重さに気づかされ、9話は序盤は辛く、その後セイランの死がシーナを変えていく過程を描く。10話は終始軽めのトーンで、セイラン不在の新生活に皆が適応していく様子。元には戻らないが時間は進む。トーンとキャラの状態が噛み合ってる。中の髪型は悪くない。シーナがハルを女子寮に連れて行く時、女の子だと気づいたのは良い指摘だ。ただ、ハルが自ら女子と名乗るかは微妙だな。反応が単なる性別非適合にしては重すぎる。ドライおじ
extralie
Also it turns out that his name is actually Hal. It seems the subtitler made a mistake when Hal was first introduced back in Episode 5. I checked Episode 5, and it looks like they still haven't corrected that mistake. I think it's less made a mistake and more that her name in Japanese can be translated as both Hal and Haru?
実は彼の名前はHalだったんだよね。第5話で初登場した時、字幕にミスがあったみたい。確認したけどまだ直ってなかった。ミスというより、日本語だとHalもHaruも訳せるからかも。普通くん
MIpoika
原文
A lighter (sort of) episode this time, hmm? Fine by me. This series always keeps me on the edge, so a little breather is appreciated - even if last week's episode wasn't really that heavy. That said, Mimi falling down the stairs did give me a scare, but since we got a cute and wholesome yuri moment afterwards, it's all good. It's understandable that Mimi isn't the biggest fan of Sheena dedicating her time to practicing her magic, instead of dedicating that time to her, but her being possibly jealous? Didn't expect that. And man, seeing Ari sitting alone still feels really sad and not right at all.
今回はやや軽めの回だったな。個人的には歓迎だ。この作品は常にハラハラさせられるから、ちょっとした息抜きはありがたい——先週がそこまで重くなかったとしてもな。とはいえミミが階段から落ちたのはヒヤッとしたが、その後に可愛くてほのぼのした百合展開があったから問題なしだ。シーナが魔法の練習に時間を割いて自分に向けてくれないのが不満なのは理解できるが、まさか嫉妬してる可能性があるとはな。それにアリが一人で座ってる姿はやっぱり悲しいし、全くしっくりこない。考察くん
thisisdropd
原文
Another restoration magic by Mimi on Sheena? However, this time the latter's fully conscious. Afterwards, their faces looked flushed while they breathed heavily. I'm fairly confident those weren't the magic's side effects. Praise the yuri gods for blessing us with this! Mimi had always been stuck to Sheena, but she's even clingier than usual this episode. Poor Sheena even got overwhelmed and had to boot her out. Looked like Mimi and Sheena had made themselves a new friend, even if she's a bit tsundere about it. Hal was self-conscious about her outfit choice but Mimi said there's nothing weird about it. After presumably countless number of times she got shamed, someone had finally validated her.
ミミがシーナにまた回復魔法を?でも今回はシーナが意識ある状態。その後2人とも顔赤くして息荒かった。魔法の副作用じゃないのは確信あるわ。ユリの神に感謝!ミミはいつもシーナにくっついてるけど今回は特にすごかった。シーナも圧倒されて追い出してた。2人に新しい友達できたね、ちょっとツンデレだけど。ハルは服装気にしてたけどミミが変じゃないって言ってくれた。何度も恥ずかしい思いした後、やっと認めてくれる人が現れたんだね。普通くん
dinliner08
Praise the yuri gods for blessing us with this! all hail mana transfe- erm, i mean, restoration magic!
ユリの神様に感謝しかないじゃん!万歳、マナ移転…えっと、つまり回復魔法ってことね!ギャル
CitronClassic672
Still love how the story came up with a way to have a slowburn yuri romance while also having a reason for them to repeatedly makeout before getting together.
ゆっくり進む百合恋愛なのに、付き合う前に何度もキスする理由づけをしたストーリー展開、今でも好きだわ。普通くん
RainbowOctarian
Have you heard of Simoun?
Simoun知ってる?感情くん
CitronClassic672
原文
Yeah, I did notice they both did seem especially hot and bothered after the kiss this time. You can read several of Mimi’s scenes regarding Sheena this episode as simply jealousy but I think that additionally Mimi might also be starting to realize she has actual feelings for Sheena, especially after that classic windswept shot of Sheena and Mimi after Sheena mentioned wanting to work hard to get Mimi to think she was cool. Like I mentioned last episode, I think the loss of Seiran has given Mimi separation anxiety regarding Sheena.
うん、キスの後いつも以上に2人とも熱くなってたのは気づいたよ。ミミのシーナ絡みのシーンは嫉妬とも取れるけど、シーナへの本当の気持ちに気づき始めてるんだと思う。シーナが「かっこいいと思われたい」って言った後の風になびく2人のシーンとかね。前回も言ったけど、セイランの喪失でミミはシーナへの分離不安を抱えてるんだろうな。普通くん
Roskal
Another restoration magic by Mimi on Sheena? However, this time the latter's fully conscious. Isn't this the third time? I think they kissed restored magic once in their room unless I am misremembering.
ミミがシーナにまた回復魔法を?しかも今回はシーナが完全に意識ある状態だ。これで3回目じゃないか?俺の記憶違いでなければ、部屋で一度キスしながら回復魔法使ってたよな。考察くん
extralie
They did when Sheena had a headache.
シーナが頭痛の時もそうだったじゃん!ギャル
rainbowrobin
Which episode was that?
それ何話やったっけ?2ちゃん
extralie
End of episode 1/start of episode 2.
1話の終わりから2話の始まりってところだね。普通くん
rainbowrobin
Ah, thanks. Though, stomachache, not headache. Huh, voiceover for Sheena's thoughts. Did they stop doing that?
あ、ありがと!てか頭痛じゃなくて腹痛ね笑 え、シーナの心の声のボイスオーバー?それってもうなくなったん?ギャル
zer0number
Mimi had always been stuck to Sheena, but she's even clingier than usual this episode. Poor Sheena even got overwhelmed and had to boot her out. Mimi has acquired jealousy!
ミミはいつもシーナにべったりだけど、今回はいつも以上にしつこかったね。シーナが耐えきれず追い出しちゃった。ミミに嫉妬心が芽生えたじゃん!普通くん
mekerpan
Haru called them "pains in the neck" -- but smiled (for the only time so far) as she thought of them.
ハルは彼らのこと「厄介者」って言ったけど、思い浮かべる時は(今のところ唯一)笑顔だった…エモすぎる!感情くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
Sheena’s feeling a little jealous of Hal eh? Cute. I like that she’s getting closer to Sheena and trying to understand other people more.
シーナがハルにちょっと嫉妬してるの?かわいい。シーナと仲良くなって、他の人ももっと理解しようとしてるのがいいね。普通くん
Heavencloud_Blade
I just found out about this series a few days ago because YouTube randomly recommended me an alternate version of the opening that showed some pretty nice yuri scenes between Ari and Seiran that got me interested, so I am not fully caught up yet, but I just wanted to say this has been great so far. I just finished episode 7 and now I am sad. Well, time to get out of here until I fully catch up.
最近YouTubeでアリとセイランの百合シーン見てハマったンゴ。まだ追いついてないけど7話見て泣いたわ…。全部見るまでここ離れるンゴ2ちゃん
runevault
The alternate ED started last episode and continued this one so likely is for the rest of the season.
前回からEDが別バージョンになって今回も続いてるから、たぶん今シーズンはずっとこれだね!感情くん
thelemon8er-2
Oh Mimi… jealousy doesn’t suit you. This might be dangerous. She had to pull out the “restoration magic” move.
ミミ、嫉妬は似合わないよ…これは危険かも。彼女は「回復魔法」を出すしかなかったんだね。普通くん
mokuhazushi
It's funny, because I think jealousy kind of does suit her. She's dealing with it so well. She gets jealous after seeing Sheena interact with Hal, and in the very next scene, she talks about how amazing she thinks Hal is? How many characters could do something like that? Most people would start seeing Hal as a threat, but Mimi doesn't let her jealousy cloud her view of Hal at all.
この嫉妬、ミミに案外似合ってるという考察ができる。彼女は嫉妬とうまく付き合っている。シーナがハルと絡むのを見て嫉妬した直後のシーンで、ハルの凄さを語るんだから。こんなことができるキャラが何人いる?大抵はハルを脅威と見なし始めるのに、ミミは嫉妬でハルへの見方を曇らせない。考察くん
CitronClassic672
Its very rare to see a character’s jealousy over someone they care about spending time with someone else manifest as admiring that third party, and I have to admit I like that portrayal of jealousy. Like “if the person I care about is taking time away from me to spend it with someone else, then they must be a truly incredible person.” Is such a neat way to portray jealousy.
他人と過ごす時間を嫉妬する気持ちが、その第三者を称賛する形で表れるのって珍しいよね。そういう嫉妬の描き方、普通に好きだわ。「自分が大切に思う人が時間を割いてまで一緒にいるなら、よっぽどすごい人なんだろうな」って発想が素敵だと思う。普通くん
Hitman7128
Yay, the restoration magic returns! Yuri is good for the soul
やったー!回復魔法戻ってきたじゃん!百合は心の栄養すぎるわ〜ギャル
Roskal
原文
That title had me so paranoid for the whole episode, especially when they fell, instead it was a overall sweet wholesome episode about Mimi feeling jealous and worried about the distance Sheena was putting between them by trying to get better at her magic. Whenever anime has characters like Hal I never know what to think. Am I supposed to assume they are trans but the culture in japan doesn't want to go that far or should I take it at face value that she's just a girl who prefers boyish clothes. It definitely comes across like he is trans but they still call him "her" and "actually a girl". I've had anime fans yell at me before for calling characters like this trans because very few anime go all the way like how One Piece did it with Kiku calling herself a girl at heart.
タイトルが怖すぎてずっと警戒しながら見てたけど、実際はミミがシーナとの距離感に嫉妬したり心配したりするほのぼの回だった。ハルみたいなキャラは毎回どう受け取ればいいか迷う。トランスと見るべきか、日本的表現の限界か、それとも男っぽい服が好きな女の子と素直に取るべきか。ただ「彼女」と呼ばれて「実は女の子」と説明されるのがトランスっぽく感じる。ワンピースの菊みたいに「心は女の子」と明言する作品は少ないから、以前トランス扱いしてアニメファンに怒られたこともある。普通くん
Mindless_Being_22
Its complicated and hard to explain unless you want manga spoilers.
めっちゃ複雑で説明むずい!ネタバレなしじゃ無理すぎる…!感情くん
CitronClassic672
I mean given this is a yuri series and thus already has openly queer characters I think reading them as trans is a more credible interpretation than in the average anime, plus them being called “her” and actually a girl could just be explained that they aren’t out about their real identity yet.
百合シリーズでオープンにクィアなキャラがいる作品だから、トランスと読む解釈は普通のアニメより信憑性あると思う。「彼女」呼びなのはまだカミングアウトしてないだけとも説明できるし。普通くん
dingdongrongpang
原文
Wow. I think I'm starting to get a yuri-attuned sixth sense. This really picks off from last episode, where we see Mimi get a more realized sense of self. When Mimi started to get jealous without realizing it, I immediately thought, "Oh? They're finally doing it for Mimi?", and then with the whole scene of their conversation in the courtyard (?), with a very in-your-face focus of the white flowers (reminiscent of course, of lily/yuri) in bloom, I deadass had a Gundam Newtype vision in my mind (except without the signature sound), and an idea popped up instantly: something intimate is coming. And then the ending scene rolled around I just \ chef's kiss** mwah. A full bloom of a garden of lilies in my mind. Thank you, world. Thank you for yuri. Thank you, yuri.
草wwwワイも百合センサー覚醒してきたンゴ。ミミが自覚なく嫉妬し始めた時点で「お?ついにミミのターンか?」って思ったわ。中庭の会話シーンで白い花ガチ映しやん?あれ百合の花やろ、もう脳内でガンダムのニュータイプ感知きたで(音なし)。直感で「これは来る」と。ラストシーンで完全に昇天、心に百合園が満開や。世界よ、百合に感謝や。マジで。2ちゃん
szalhi
Restoration. Studying is evil Priorities Grounded.
復活。勉強は悪。優先順位は大事。地に足ついてる。普通くん
eightcheesepizza
Priorities I appreciate Mimi's dedication to Sheena and carbohydrates.
ミミのシーナと炭水化物への献身には頭が下がるわ。優先順位がはっきりしてて草2ちゃん
AceSoldia
I wasnt sure if Hal-kun would survive the episode the way Mimi was looking at her, haha. But maybe she'll be fine..Mimi doesnt understand her own jealousy but is also so straightforward you cant help but like her.
ハルくんがこの回生き残れるか不安だったよ、ミミがあんな目で見てたからね、はは。でもたぶん大丈夫かも…ミミは自分の嫉妬に気づいてないけど、まっすぐすぎて応援したくなるんだよね。普通くん
garpy_
This one sparks joy
これ好きやわwww2ちゃん
PersonalContest1423
Oh no. MC yuri confirmed; chances of second season reduced by 97.6%
あちゃ〜。MC百合確定かよ…2期の可能性が97.6%も消えたじゃん…無理すぎる…感情くん
epicfail1994
I still need season 2 of MagiRevo (though Livid Lady from this season does have Evil Euphie), I’m In Love With The Villainess, and the executioner and her way of life
MagiRevoの2期はまだ欲しい(今期のLivid Ladyには悪役ユーフィーがいるけど)、私は悪役令嬢に恋してる、処刑少女の生きる道もね。普通くん
PersonalContest1423
There are so many good yuri shows that deserved a second season that will never get one. My guilty favorite is I'm in love with the villainess
2期来るべき百合アニメめっちゃあるのに一生来ないンゴ…
ワイの密かなお気に入りは「悪役令嬢に恋してる」やで2ちゃん
Spectr3_qwe
Whisper me a love song deserved a better first season to be honest. I love the manga but I never recomend the anime due to the production problems it had
正直ささやく恋、1期はもっといい出来にすべきだったよ…!漫画は大好きなのに制作トラブルでアニメは勧められない、つらすぎる…!感情くん
PersonalContest1423
I watched it and didnt see the big deal. I didnt notice any clear evidence of production issues
見たけど別に大したことないと思ったわ。制作トラブルの明確な証拠なんて気づかんかったし2ちゃん
Spectr3_qwe
There is an episode where they are singing and the microphone appears and disappears between frames and the drummer appears and disappears from the background between frames.
作画ミスやん!マイクとドラマーがフレームごとに消えたり現れたり…しんどいわこれ感情くん
epicfail1994
The dub for that one is amazing as Claire sounds completely unhinged with half the stuff she says Edit: I mean Rae
この吹き替えまじやばい!Claireが言うこと半分くらい完全にイカれてる感じなんだよね
編集:Raeのことだわギャル
TheMythofKoalas
I love the dub so much. The VAs clearly had a blast in their roles (especially Rae's, IMO).
吹替ガチで好きやわ。声優陣は明らかに楽しんで演じてるよな(特にRaeのは個人的に神)。2ちゃん
epicfail1994
Lmao i actually meant to type Rae instead of Claire there The dub is so good
わかるwww それClaireじゃなくてRaeって打ちたかったんだよね 吹き替え最高すぎる感情くん
CitronClassic672
Rae’s VA was genuinely one of the most unique and expressive dub performances I’ve ever seen.
Raeの声優は本当に唯一無二で、こんなに表現豊かな吹き替えは初めて聞いたよ。普通くん
epicfail1994
原文
Listening to her I was like holy shit she’s crazy, I love it Some other dubs I really liked were May I Ask For One Final Thing and Tsukimichi (the same VA voices Scarlett and Sophia in those, she’s great). I also really liked the dub in Arifureta, but that show was kinda dragged down by the….intense….harem focus, and edginess, lol. I’ll give it points for being self aware about the edginess but uh, it was something
彼女の声聴いて「やば、頭おかしいwww 好き」ってなったわ。他に好きな吹き替えは『最期にもう一つだけお願いしてもいいですか』と『月が導く異世界道中』(同じ声優がScarlettとSophiaやってて神)。『ありふれた』のも良かったけど、ハーレム要素と中二病感でちょい微妙だったわwww 自覚あるのはポイント高いけどな2ちゃん
rainbowrobin
MagiRevo at least raced its way to an excellent stopping point.
MagiRevoは少なくとも最高の区切りまで突っ走った!優勝すぎる!感情くん
Dependent-Sea4703
and there are still some people saying the ending wasn’t a happy one even though all of the problems already explained to be fixed.
てかさ、問題全部解決したって説明されてんのに、まだ「ハッピーエンドじゃない」とか言ってる人いるのやばくね?ギャル
ZaphodBeebblebrox
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すみません、コメントは削除されました。ネタバレタグが未設定か間違っている可能性があります。タグ付けする時は[]で文脈を示して、例えば[作品名] >!ネタバレ!< のようにしてください。詳細はこちら。質問はモデメールかメタスレで。普通くん
rainbowrobin
What spoilers??? I wasn't even talking about KimiShinu at any point.
ネタバレって何や??ワイは一度もKimiShinuの話なんかしとらんわwww2ちゃん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
Spoilers for WataOshi.
WataOshiのネタバレあり。普通くん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
I wrote the wrong thing. I meant to say MagiRevo, and then did not. I'm sorry about that. Spoilers for the MagiRevo anime are still spoilers. We do not assume that everyone in this thread has seen MagiRevo.
間違ったことを書いてしまった。MagiRevoと言いたかったのに、言えなかった。申し訳ない。MagiRevoアニメのネタバレは依然としてネタバレだ。このスレッドの全員がMagiRevoを見ているとは前提にしていない。考察くん
CitronClassic672
For now we’ll have to sustain ourselves on season 2 of Mahoako I suppose.
とりま今はMahoakoのシーズン2で食いつなぐしかないじゃんね〜笑ギャル
eightcheesepizza
The fear that comes from imagining what someone else is imagining Hal needs a buddy, if only so she doesn't collapse alone in that dusty library basement and not get found for weeks. Does she actually go down there to get books?
ハルの想像に怯えるの、共感するわ。ハルには仲間が必要だね。あの埃っぽい地下室で一人倒れても何週間も見つけてもらえないから。そもそも本を取るためにあそこに行ってるのかな?普通くん
JimmyCWL
Does she actually go down there to get books? Considering how buried the notebook was. almost certainly.
あのノートがあんだけ埋まっとったん考えると、彼女ガチで本取りに行っとるやろ。ほぼ確定やん。2ちゃん
Magic1998
Especially with how dusty it's down there it can't be healthy for her to go down there
てかあそこめっちゃホコリすごいじゃん?彼女が行くの体に悪すぎるってまじでギャル
eightcheesepizza
The air must be so stagnant down there. Maybe she is the first in this world to discover Radon?
下の空気めっちゃ淀んでそう。もしかして彼女、この世界で初めてラドンを発見したのかもね?普通くん
Emi_Ibarazakiii
原文
Historians will say they were restoration-mates So, we're getting a full episode focused on building up Mimi/Sheena... Which one dies next? Or maybe it's Hal! Damn. "The new normal"... Nothing is normal about their situation, but people dying is something they have to get used to. The injuried... Or the dead? (Or the living dead?) Mimi's getting a bit jealous of Sheena spending time with others? She better not turn Yandere, no one would survive! Hah, nurse expects her visits now! Child labor! (Wait, they're also using child soldiers. Maybe child labor is preferable!) Mimi acts like such a child in these moments hah. Are we there yet? How much longer? Here I'll help you so it's over faster! With Sheena making her wait outside, Hal saying she's in the way... Is she also feeling like she doesn't have a real place? Says the girl who sleeps through classes, and doodles on her exam instead of answering the questions! 12? These doodles weren't SO bad! (And she wrote her name right!) I know Sheena's not a frontline soldier and all, but why would you try to Deathflag her anyway?
歴史家は「修復仲間」とか言うんやろな。ミミ/シーナ掘り下げ回キター!次死ぬの誰や?まさかハルか?くそっ。「新しい日常」…こんなん日常じゃねぇよ、でも死に慣れなきゃいけねぇんだよな。負傷者か…それとも死者?(あるいは生ける屍?)ミミがシーナにヤキモチ?ヤンデレ化だけはやめてくれ、誰も生き残れんwww 看護師が訪問を当然と思うようになったンゴ!児童労働!(待てよ、彼らは子ども兵士も使ってる。児童労働の方がマシかも!)ミミはこういう時子どもっぽいよなwww まだ着かないの?あとどれくらい?ほら手伝うから早く終わらせよう!シーナに外で待たされ、ハルに邪魔と言われ…自分に居場所がないと感じてる?授業中寝て、試験は解答せず落書きしてる子がよく言うわ!12点?この落書きはそんなに悪くなかった!(名前もちゃんと書いたし!)シーナが前線兵士じゃないのは分かるけど、なんで死亡フラグ立てようとするんや?2ちゃん
JMV1997
I gotta say that “historians will say they were restoration-mates” absolutely killed me lol. That was a good one
「歴史家は彼らを修復仲間だったと言うだろう」ってやつ、マジで笑ったわwww。いいボケだね普通くん
BosuW
The new normal"... Nothing is normal about their situation, but people dying is something they have to get used to. Reminded me of one of the themes currently being treated over at Youjo Senki . About how what should be abnormal has become normal, and the loss of humanity that occurs not just in the battlefield but also at home. A kind of anxiety that is not readily apparent.
「新しい日常」…彼女たちの状況で普通なことなんて何もない。でも人が死ぬことに慣れていかなきゃいけない。これは『幼女戦記』で扱われてるテーマを思い出させる。本来異常であるべきことが日常になってしまうこと、そして戦場だけでなく家でも起きる人間性の喪失。はっきりとは見えない不安。考察くん
zairaner
Damn. "The new normal" ... Can't believe even this show had a mandatory covid episode
くそ。「新しい日常」か…まさかこのアニメまでコロナ回を入れなきゃいけなかったとは普通くん
Sleepy10105s
Did we do it? A full episode with no big sad. Now I’m worried about the next episode
やったじゃん!?全編悲しみなしの回とかまじで奇跡じゃん!てか次の回がもう不安なんだけど笑ギャル
Myrkrvaldyr
Considering how the girls wear skirts and the boys pants, I guess Hal just didn't like to be forced to wear girls clothes. Though I wonder if her defiance goes deeper than that.
女はスカート、男はズボン着てるの見ると、ハルは女物着せられるのが嫌だっただけなんかな?でもその反抗、もっと深い理由がありそうやな。2ちゃん
master_inho
原文
Mimi: i might be a jealous ass gf but I'm certainly not transphobic 😊 Whether or not hal actually turns out to be trans or just cross dressing, it's cool that that gets seen too So I'm still a bit confused on restoration magic vs healing magic. Mimi restoring a whole arm is restoration magic, i get that. But what is she restoring when healing a simple scrape? Wouldn't that be something for sheena, if she knew how to? This kiss certainly feels a lot more romantic than the one in ep 1. Although mimi is gonna have to figure out how to give sheena some alone time, at times she feels more like a clingy child than a clingy gf. And i get she's just this immature but something's gotta give
ミミは嫉妬深い彼女かもしれないけど、トランスフォビックじゃないよね😊 ハルが実際にトランスなのか女装なのかはともかく、そういうのも描かれるのはいいことだと思う。それと回復魔法と治癒魔法の違いがまだよく分からない。腕を丸ごと戻すのが回復魔法なのは分かるけど、かすり傷を治すときは何を回復してるの? シーナがやり方知ってたらそっちの担当じゃないの? このキスは1話のよりずっとロマンチックに感じる。でもミミはシーナに一人の時間を作る方法を考えないとだね、時々依存彼女というより依存子供みたいに見える。未熟なのは分かるけど、何かが妥協しないとだよ。普通くん
hjt700
i think restoration magic is more straightforward, it restores the body to it's "good" state. healing magic on the other hand is more spiritual. it heals the soul which allows the body to recover.
回復魔法の方が分かりやすいじゃん?体を「良い」状態に戻すやつ。てか治癒魔法はもっとスピリチュアル系で、魂を癒して体も回復させるみたいな!ギャル
Mindless_Being_22
mimi really is just really bad with the microagrressions even though she doesnt mean it.
ミミって悪気ないのに細かい配慮に欠けるんだよね。普通くん
TheMythofKoalas
I think restoration is regular healing/repairing physical ailments (i.e., "damage"), whilst healing deals with things like sickness (i.e., "ailments"), but I'm not 100% either.
回復は物理的な損傷の修復、治癒は病気とかに効くんやないかな?ワイも100%の自信はないンゴ2ちゃん
LostInstruction942
原文
How I see it or how it's loosely describe in the show is. Restoration magic is something you're born with, think of it like your bodies natural regenerative abilities. How fast your limbs will heal when broken, stuff like that. It's not something you can improve by any means. You're either born with a high amount like Mimi or very little (Hal for example who gets sick really easily). Restoration magic magic doesn't "fix" things either. Think of it like a time reversal spell, you're bringing an object back in time to a point when it was at it's "full glory". So for example if you had a scar on your arm and lost it when restoration magic is used on the arm to bring it back the scar will still be there. Healing magic is not like that as it heals not only physical wounds but the "soul" as well. Healing magic is something everyone can learn but there is a natural "aptitude" to it. Basically while everyone can learn it depending on your aptitude is how easily you will be able to use it. For example, Mimi's mom was so good at it that she was even able to use the resurrection spell which we now know is very prone to failing and killing the user. Which is why healing magic is somewhat rare, it takes a lot of time to "brute force" your way to learn it when you don't have the aptitude for it. A really good example is in Avatar. Aang struggled to learn earth bending because earth is the natural opposite to air. So his body was naturally repelling it which is why it took him way longer to learn. Healing magic goes by this same principal in some areas.
俺の解釈だと、作中でざっくり説明されてるのはこんな感じ。回復魔法は生まれつきのもので、体の自然治癒力みたいなもん。骨折がどれくらい早く治るか、みたいな。どんな手段でも伸ばせない。ミミみたいに多いか、ハルみたいにすぐ病気になるくらい少ないか。あと回復魔法は「修復」じゃなくて時間を巻き戻す感じ。傷跡がある腕に使っても傷跡は残る。治癒魔法は違って、肉体も「魂」も治せる。誰でも学べるけど才能次第。ミミの母は才能が凄くて蘇生呪文まで使えた。だから治癒魔法は希少で、才能ないと習得に時間がかかる。アバターのアンが土遁を学ぶのに苦労したのと同じ原理だね。普通くん
Ocixo
原文
I really thought that Mimi was about to say/do something bad out of sheer jealousy, but she actually gave some encouraging words to Haru instead. However, I’m not per se relieved either. Mimi is dealing with unfamiliar feelings. If she keeps bottling those feelings up, they’ll eventually burst out all at once. Best-case scenario is a k… some “restoration magic” like in today’s episode, but other possibilities worry me. After all, Mimi can get a little too carried away at times.
ミミが嫉妬で何か悪いことを言う/すると思ったけど、実際はハルに励ましの言葉をかけたんだよな。ただ、安心はできない。ミミは慣れない感情と向き合ってる。ずっと溜め込んだら、いずれ一気に爆発する。最良のケースは今日の話みたいな「回復魔法」的な展開だが、他の可能性が心配だ。何せミミは時に暴走しがちだからな。考察くん
mokuhazushi
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It's definitely a possibility she's bottling her feelings up in a bad way, but I think the opposite is also a definite possibility. Just look at the way she communicated with Sheena after Sheena rejected being healed. Maybe it was a little accusatory and pushy, but she pretty clearly stated that she thought Sheena was being unfair and that she wanted to help her, like Sheena always helps her. I think Mimi is surprisingly good at communicating about these things, but her current feelings are probably too confusing for her.
彼女が感情を悪い形で抑え込んでる可能性は確かにあるけど、逆も十分あり得ると思う。シーナが治癒を拒否した後のミミの伝え方を見てみてよ。少し責めるような強引さはあったけど、シーナが不公平だと思ってるし、いつも助けてくれるシーナを自分も助けたいってはっきり言ってた。ミミはこういうこと意外と上手く伝えられるけど、今の自分の気持ちが複雑すぎて整理できてないんだと思う。普通くん