きみが死ぬまで恋をしたい

AutoLovepon
おかえり
「けがをしないで帰ってきて」そうシーナは願ったものの、現実ははかなく無残なものだった。保健室に届けられた袋の中に入っていたのは、血まみれのミミ。その姿に言葉が出ないシーナは、涙があふれてしまい...。
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JJVM99
原文
They could have made the Sheena getting Mimi’s bag scene even more disturbing and straight out of a horror movie if they had her open the bag before Mimi started healing herself and honestly that’s what I was expecting to happen. Sheena opening up the bag, seeing Mimi’s corpse screaming in horror and being convinced that Mimi had to stop fighting so that she didn’t have to go through this again and again. If you change the story it could have been even more horrifying. If we had never seen Mimi’s mangled corpse get delivered to the doctor before and she healing herself and had Mimi not told Sheena (and us the viewers) that she was immortal if the scene above had happened it would have been even more shocking.
ミミのバッグを開けるシーン、ミミが自己回復する前に開けてたらホラー映画並みにヤバかったやろな。ワイもそうなると思っとったわ。シーナがバッグ開けてミミの死体見て絶叫、そして「またこんな目に合わせたくないから戦うのやめて」って思う展開。ストーリー変えたらもっとエグくなったやろな。もしミミの死体が医者のとこに運ばれるの見たことなかったら、自己回復も見てなかったら、ミミが不死って言ってなかったら、あのシーンはもっと衝撃的やったやろな。2ちゃん
Leri_weill
I was straight up prepared to see Mimi in pieces in that bag, those few scratches are nothing she was in pristine condition lmao
ミミが袋の中でバラバラになってるのを覚悟してたんだけど、あの程度の傷なら全然無事じゃんwww普通くん
JJVM99
Her right side was very messed up considering she couldn’t hide the pain and how her right eye color was different and how lifeless it looked. Also I believe the person who dropped of the bag said he was able to get all of her which to me implies she was in pieces. Maybe she waited until she was almost completely healed before calling out to Sheena to not scare her.
彼女の右半身はかなり損傷がひどかったと考察できる。痛みを隠せなかったこと、右目の色が違って生気がなかったことからもそれが窺える。また、袋を届けた人物が「彼女の全てを回収できた」と言っていた点は、彼女がバラバラの状態だったことを示唆していると思われる。おそらく彼女は、シーナを怖がらせないように、ほぼ完全に回復するまで声を掛けなかったのだろう。この行動から、彼女の優しさと自己犠牲の精神が読み取れるな。考察くん
BosuW
Mimi must've mostly put herself together by then but her face and right eye were definitely messed up and Sheena saw that 💀
ミミはその頃には大方身なりを整えておったが、顔と右目は確かに無惨な有様でござった。シーナはそれをしかと見届けたのでござるな…💀武士
extralie
Mimi started healing before Sheena's opened the bag, so that's probably why. Her right side still looked fucked with a broken arm and non-functioning eye.
ミミはシーナがバッグを開ける前に回復を始めてたから、それが理由だと思う。でも右側はまだボロボロで、腕は折れたままだし目も機能してなかったよ。普通くん
Grabul
same here, but considering their ages I thought they could have played up Sheena's reaction more even as things were actually shown. I mean someone she cares about deeply just got dropped off in the back room in a bloody sack...
同じく。ただ、年齢を考えると、シーナの反応をもっと強調しても良かったんじゃないかと思えるんだ。実際に描かれた描写でも、彼女が深く想う相手が血まみれの袋に入れられて奥の部屋に運ばれたんだからな。もう少し感情の揺れがあっても良かった気がする。考察くん
dude_1818
Yeah, I wanted at least one limb not reattached yet
うん、少なくとも一箇所はまだくっついてない状態でいてほしかったな普通くん
zer0number
原文
They could have made the Sheena getting Mimi’s bag scene even more disturbing and straight out of a horror movie if they had her open the bag before Mimi started healing herself and honestly that’s what I was expecting to happen. Sheena opening up the bag, seeing Mimi’s corpse screaming in horror and being convinced that Mimi had to stop fighting so that she didn’t have to go through this again and again. Yeah, I was vocally talking to my monitor, pleading with Sheena to not open the bag. I have no idea how Sheena (or me, quite frankly) would have reacted to that.
シーナがミミのバッグを開けるシーン、もしミミが自己治癒を始める前に開けていたら、ホラー映画並みの衝撃的な展開になっていただろうな。正直、俺はそうなると思ってた。シーナがバッグを開けて、ミミの遺体を見て絶叫し、「ミミに戦うのをやめてもらわなきゃ、またこんな思いを繰り返すことになる」と確信する展開を想像してたんだ。実際、モニターに向かって声に出して「バッグを開けるな」と懇願してたよ。シーナが(いや、俺自身も)あの場面でどう反応してたか、まったく想像もつかない。考察くん
JJVM99
I was also prepared for Sheena to see it but I was sure they wouldn’t show us Mimi’s corpse. They may have shown us Sheena’s hand being cut off but they wouldn’t show us more than Sheena looking in horror.
シーナがそれを見る展開は予想してたけど、ミミの死体は映さないと思ってたんだよね。シーナの手が切断されるシーンはあったけど、彼女が恐怖で見つめる以上の描写はないと思ってた。普通くん
Jacob-C
Yeah, I was vocally talking to my monitor, pleading with Sheena to not open the bag. I did the exact same thing lol
ああ、我が魂はモニター越しにシーナへ叫び続けた——「その袋を開けてはならぬ」と。同じ運命を辿った者として、共鳴せざるを得ないのだ。中二病
Narlaw
If the goal is make us afraid that Mimi will literally obliterate Seiran, then it's 100% achieved. She's been told too much to "not hold back" and "do her best"...
まじでミミがセイランを消し飛ばすんじゃないかって恐怖ヤバくない!?完全に成功してるじゃん!「手加減しないで」「全力出して」って言われまくってるし、怖すぎるんだけど!ギャル
One_Question3972
It doesn't really make sense for them to allow Mimi to just kill Seiran. They're on the same side and they need more soldiers. It would make more sense to get Seiran to kill Mimi since they know she will just come back and it would test her resolve.
ミミにセイランを殺させるのは筋が通らないよね。同じ陣営だし、兵士も足りないんだからさ。むしろセイランにミミを殺させた方が合理的だと思う。ミミは戻ってくるってわかってるし、彼女の覚悟を試すことにもなるしね。普通くん
Narlaw
It's not about allowing. The set up is way too skewed and Mimi could easily accidentally kill her.
いやいや、許可の問題じゃないんだよ!設定が歪みすぎてて、ミミは簡単にうっかり殺しちゃう可能性あるんだぞ!怖すぎるッ!感情くん
TheBusStop12
原文
That's why usually an upper class man from class 17 would do the test. Mimi is only doing due to a lack of Human resources. And Mimi is very different from any of the other fighters. She's treated as a secret weapon almost, and goes full tilt when fighting because she can just be put back together. She's also emotionally immature and often doesn't fully understand what's going on, and she especially struggles with the concept of death. There is a real risk Mimi ends up obliterating or severely wounding Seiran unintentionally
そらそうやろ、通常は17組の上流階級の男が試験受けるんや。ミミは人手不足でやっとるだけやしな。しかもミミは他の戦士と全然タイプ違うねん。ほぼ秘密兵器扱いやで、戦闘時はフルスロットルやけど、それは組み立て直せるからや。感情面は未熟やし、状況把握も甘い。特に死の概念が理解できてへん。ガチでミミが青嵐を無自覚に消し飛ばすリスクあるで。2ちゃん
Grabul
I dont think that's going to happen, but I would be surprised (happily) if Seiran doesn't die in battle or something and maybe Ali doing the forbidden sacrifice.
それはないと思うけど、もしセイランが戦闘で死なずにアリが禁断の犠牲を払う展開になったら、嬉しい驚きだな。普通くん
thelemon8er-2
Mimi knows not to kill her right? … Right?!?
ミミは彼女を殺さないってわかってるよね…? だよねッ?!?感情くん
whyrusosensitive
She was told not to hold back and to do her best...seiran is going to end up in pieces
「手加減するな、全力でやれって言われたんだ…」セイランはバラバラにされちゃう運命だね普通くん
TheBusStop12
Mimi also struggles with understanding the concept of death
ミミもまた、死という概念を理解するのに苦悩しておるようでござるな。武士
Emi_Ibarazakiii
原文
Well, she doesn't understand the concept of death, BUT she does understand that she's special (the big secret reveal about why "she can't die", if she thought it was common she would just talk about it casually). The question is whether she'll realize the implications of that specialness, i.e. you dying doesn't matter, but others dying is a huge deal. For obvious reasons, she does seem to have a bit of a stunted intellectual development... So who knows what she'll make of this.
彼女は「死」の概念は理解してないけど、自分が特別だってことは理解してるみたいだね(「死ねない理由」の重大な秘密が明かされた時、もし普通のことだと思ってたら軽く話すはずだし)。問題は、その特別さの意味に気づくかどうかだよね。つまり、自分が死なないのは大したことじゃないけど、他人が死ぬのは重大なことだって。明らかに彼女は知的発達が少し遅れてるように見えるし…だからどう解釈するかはわからないな。普通くん
TheBusStop12
Yeah, it can really go either way, which makes it so scary. In this situation Mimi truly is a wild card
まあ、どっちに転んでもおかしくないからこそ怖いんだよな。この状況じゃミミはまさに読みにくいカードだ。ドライおじ
Emi_Ibarazakiii
seiran is going to end up in pieces Well, let's rebuild her now! ...Guys?
セイランはバラバラになりそうだな。まあ、今は彼女を再構築しよう!…みんな?普通くん
CitronClassic672
Exactly where my mind went at that moment. In fairness Seiran does need to be fighting an opponent with genuine intent to do harm because that’s what she’ll be dealing with if he passes the exam, but Mimi is still much more powerful than her that a fight where neither is holding back is not reasonable.
せやな、ワイも同じこと思うたわ。せやけどSeiranは本気で殺意持って戦える相手とやらなあかんのは分かるで。試験受かればそういう相手と戦うことになるんやし。でもMimiの方が圧倒的に強いから、お互い手加減なしのガチンコは現実的ちゃうわな。2ちゃん
gnome-cop
原文
This feels like the first episode that’s really gotten up close and personal with the reality of what they’re dealing with. We’ve known it’s happening but haven’t seen it in such detail before. The infirmary scene is clearly extremely unpleasant for her. I think the overlapping flicker of images in the dark is good visual presentation. Oh. Oh no. Sheena and Pandora’s box? Bag? Eh, whatever. I don’t envy Sheena. She can’t fight, she can’t protect Mimi from getting hurt, the only thing she can really do is provide as much support for her as possible whenever she returns. To give her some semblance of home and comfort while she’s not at war. Burn that damn piece of paper right now! Okay, not as bad as I feared but still pretty damn bad. “It’s time to D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-Duel!” Good on you Mimi for being willing to take this seriously but please don’t try TOO hard. The school/orphanage is pretty much just an extended lease on life. You may not die today thanks to them but you will die in its service at some point. But what choice do they really have at this point? The contract has been signed and there’s no way out. And as we heard from Seiran, she can’t justify not trying her hardest to be chosen. It’d be a betrayal of her life, her education and her chance to meet Ari. If I had to pick one word to describe my current feelings, it’d be “Fear.”
今回のエピソードは、初めて彼女たちが直面している現実に真正面から向き合った感じがするね。これまでも知ってはいたけど、ここまで詳細に見せられたのは初めてだ。保健室のシーンは彼女にとって明らかにすごく辛いものだよね。暗闇の中で画像が重なり合って揺らめく表現は、視覚的に良い演出だと思う。ああ、まずい。シーナとパンドラの箱?袋?まあ、何でもいいけど。シーナが不憫だな。戦えないし、ミミが傷つくのを防ぐこともできない。できるのは、彼女が戻ってくるたびにできる限り支えることだけ。戦争の合間に、少しでも家や安らぎを感じられる場所を与えること。あの紙、今すぐ燃やせ!まあ、思ったほど酷くはなかったけど、それでもかなり酷い状況だな。「デュエル開始!」ミミが真剣に取り組もうとしてくれて偉いけど、どうか無理しすぎないでほしい。学校や孤児院は、結局は寿命を延ばしてもらってるだけに過ぎない。彼らのおかげで今日死ぬことはないかもしれないけど、いずれそのために命を捧げることになるんだよ。でも、この時点で本当に選択肢なんてあるのか?契約はもう交わされて、逃げ道はない。セイランから聞いた通り、彼女は選ばれるために全力を尽くさないことを正当化できない。それは自分の人生や教育、アリと出会う機会への裏切りになるから。今の気持ちを一言で表すなら「恐怖」だね。普通くん
BosuW
If I had to pick one word to describe my current feelings, it’d be “Fear.” On point. This episode having my heart on its grip.
ワイの今の感情を一言で表すなら「恐怖」やわ。まさにそれ。この回に心臓握られっぱなしやで…。2ちゃん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
原文
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我がコメントは削除された。それはこのスレッド最上部の「原作の聖域」に属するものだからな。放送中のアニメの議論スレにて、原作・スピンオフ・作者の言葉・未映像化の内容に関する語りは、全てそこに捧げねばならぬ。原作との比較など、いかに微細なものでも例外ではない。我がコメントはネタバレゆえに葬られたのではない──聖域の外で原作を語った罪ゆえに消されたのだ。疑問があれば、この返信に応えるか、modmailを送れ、或いはメタスレッドに記せ。ルールを知らぬのか?ならばここで読むがいい。中二病
Prplcheez
I don't have a screenshot but in the scene in the hallway after Sheena and Mimi were crying, you could see their eyes were red in the closeups. Incredible detail that I don't think I've ever seen an anime do before.
スクショはないけど、シーナとミミが泣いた後の廊下のシーンで、アップのカットで目が赤くなってるのが見えたんだよ。ああいう細かい描写は今まで見たアニメで初めてかも。すごいこだわりだな。普通くん
Lodju
I remember Isekai Ojisan having that detail indicating the elf cried all night after ojisan didn't invite her to the bed with him.
異世界おじさんで、エルフがおじさんにベッド誘われなくて一晩中泣いてたって描写あったの思い出したわwww草2ちゃん
Viktorv22
Yeah I noticed that. Really a nice touch.
確かに気づいたわwいい演出だよな笑wwwおじ
Magic1998
It's not uncommon, especially in good Slice of Life shows (though I couldn't give you an example for the life of me), and it definitely shows that the staff cares about this show
特に良い日常系アニメでは珍しくないと思うけど、具体的な例は思い出せないな。でも、スタッフがこの作品を大事にしてるのが伝わってくるのは確かだね普通くん
TheDanubianCommunard
This is a massive red flag for Seiran it looks like.
これはセイランの重大な危険信号に見えるな。まあ、こういう展開は予想してたけど。ドライおじ
MapoTofuMan
She's definitely getting Mimi'd. One way or another...
彼女は絶対ミミみたいな扱いを受けるだろうな。どういう形であれ…普通くん
zairaner
She will get a flower crown too? 😊
彼女も花冠もらえるの!?😊かわいすぎる!感情くん
Grabul
Hope you're wrong, but yeah.
希望してるけど、たぶん違う気がするな。普通くん
Armdel
goddamn lucky for Sheena that Mimi wasn't in several pieces when she opened that bag... don't think she could have handled it Also maybe not the best idea to tell Mimi to go all in this duel with how experienced she is. though i guess she does come back in a bag fairly often so she isnt unbeatable
シーナはマジで運が良かったな、あの袋開けた時にミミがバラバラになってなくて……あれ見たら精神崩壊してたやろwww それにベテランのミミに全力でデュエルしろって言うのも正直アリとは思えんわ。まあ袋入りで帰ってくることも多いし、無敵ってわけじゃないけどな2ちゃん
DugACCat
原文
Yeah I was fully expecting Sheena to find her in pieces, and was relieved they didn’t go quite that far. I guess the show (thankfully) prefers to rely on imagined rather than overt gore. We’ll see how it goes, but I don’t think Mimi coming back often in a bag means she’s beatable in a one on one duel. I’d hazard most of the times she’s gone down has been facing overwhelming odds, at least from how they’ve talked about her fights.
シーナが彼女をバラバラの状態で見つける展開を完全に予想してたから、そこまで踏み込まなかったのは正直ホッとしたよ。この作品は(ありがたいことに)露骨なグロ描写よりも想像に委ねるスタイルを好んでるんだな。今後の展開次第だけど、ミミが何度も袋詰めで戻ってくるからといって、一対一の決闘で倒せる相手だとは思えないんだよな。彼女が敗北した場面は、ほぼ圧倒的不利な状況だったはずだし、これまでの戦いの語られ方からしても、その考察が妥当だと思われる。考察くん
Embarrassed-Match-78
I think Mimi started to put herself back together upon hearing Sheena's voice. Given the guy said he had collected everything. If the bag had opened a little bit before than it might have been a different story.
ミミはシーナの声を聞いて、自分を取り戻し始めたんだと思う。あの男が全部集めたって言ってたからね。もしバッグがもう少し早く開いてたら、話は変わってたかもしれないな。普通くん
Ocixo
Yeah, I had a similar thought. Mimi had been in literal pieces, but must’ve tried to quickly put herself back together in an attempt to uphold her promise with Sheena. If Sheena had opened the bag a little earlier, she probably would’ve gotten traumatised.
確かに似た考察をしていたんだが、ミミは文字通りバラバラの状態だったのに、シーナとの約束を守るために素早く自分を元に戻そうとしたんだろうな。もしシーナがもう少し早く袋を開けていたら、トラウマになっていたかもしれない。この描写、彼女の執着心と約束への固執がよく出てるよな。考察くん
CitronClassic672
I think she’s still traumatized tbf.
彼女はまだトラウマを引きずってると思うよ。普通くん
Embarrassed-Match-78
Battered bloody Mimi is still a lot less traumatic than some assembly required Mimi.
血まみれでボロボロのミミ、それでも「組み立てが必要なミミ」よりはトラウマ少ないってマジ?しんどすぎるだろッ!感情くん
CitronClassic672
Glad it seems to be a universal experience that we all expected Sheena to see Mimi in pieces rather than just mangled.
シーナがミミをバラバラの状態で見ると思ってたのはみんな共通の認識っぽくて安心したわ。普通くん
Azhur65
I just realized how fucked this show is to make us relieved that a child is "just mangled" out of a body bag holy shit
このアニメやばすぎるだろ…子どもが「ただの重傷」で済んでることに安堵させられる時点で頭おかしいわ。神回すぎて逆にしんどいッ!感情くん
Jacob-C
原文
The entire situation is so fucked up. Just seeing a wartime infirmary filled with children who just got back from the front lines is insane. It gives me the exact same feeling of hopeless dread that 86 did. [ 86 early anime soft spoilers] However, in 86 , the teenagers who were forced to fight weren’t even treated in an infirmary or given a proper education. It’s not much solace given the situation, but at least these children have that.
状況が本当にやばいよね。戦線から戻ってきたばかりの子供たちで埋まる戦時病院を見るだけで胸が痛む。86と同じ絶望感が蘇るよ。[86の序盤ネタバレ] ただ86では、戦わされたティーンたちは病院で治療も教育も受けられなかった。状況を考えれば慰めにはならないけど、少なくともこの子たちにはそれがある。普通くん
DugACCat
86 is an apt comparison for my mood as well. I’ve not quite been ready to rewatch that, but have recently been doing so by proxy watching a couple reactors seeing it for the first time.
わかる、俺も86とまったく同じ心境だわ。まだ再視聴する気にはなれないんだけど、最近リアクターが初見で見てるのを代理視聴してるんだ。それもエモいけど、やっぱり直視できねえッ!感情くん
Grabul
This isn't Shiboyugi, thank goodness.
シボユギじゃなくてよかったわwww2ちゃん
DugACCat
原文
Yeah and in many ways it’s the nature of the bag that makes it feel so awful and grisly, even when we see Mimi climb out of there bloody but intact. A coarse sack isn’t the ideal way to recover a body and it’s clear the person doing so has to work extra hard each time to make sure he gets all the pieces. The whole setup is indeed quite dystopian, even on those times Mimi has been the main or only “casualty.” What a way to make use of orphans. That they feel so grateful to be given a roof over their heads and food and training just makes it worse. Will be curious if we’ll learn more about the broader conflict or if it’ll remain mostly off camera and left to our imagination.
確かに、袋の質感がこのシーンをより陰惨に感じさせるよね。ミミが血まみれでも無事に這い出てくるのを見ても、粗い麻袋じゃ遺体回収には不向きで、回収する側も毎回パーツを集めるのに苦労してるのが分かる。設定自体がかなりディストピアだし、ミミが主な「犠牲者」になる時でさえそうだ。孤児をこんな風に使うなんてな。屋根と食事と訓練を与えられたことに彼女たちが感謝してるのが、余計に胸が痛む。今後、大きな戦争の背景が明かされるのか、それともほとんど描かれず想像に委ねられるのか、気になるね。普通くん
Grabul
Agree with all this. Series leans more into showing the emotional damage over the physical.
確かにそれな。この作品は物理的なダメージより、感情的な傷を描く方に振り切ってるよな。しんどすぎる。感情くん
BosuW
Probably Mimi is unbeatable in a 1v1 though. They only defeat her in the battlefield because they swarm her.
まじでミミちゃん1対1なら無敵じゃね?戦場で倒せたのって数で押したからだし、やばくね!?ギャル
Grabul
Most scenes I remember though, she's taking on many opponents at once and coming back with a pretty sizable body count.
ワイが覚えてるシーンやと、大抵同時に複数人相手にしてて、結構な数の敵を倒して戻ってきてるンゴwww2ちゃん
Weak_Season_Of_Anime
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Receiving your chopped up girlfriend in a sack... that is going to give Sheena some nightmares. And they made Seiran duel against the strongest weapon in the country for the exam? Regardless of whether she wins or loses I think she's still being sent to the frontlines because this war is not going well. Mimi's new flower crown Ivy: fidelity, friendship, eternal life Baby's breath: innocence, purity, everlasting love Bluestar: strength and resilience
袋詰めにされたバラバラの恋人を受け取る光景は、シーナに悪夢を与えそうだな。そして国家最強の兵器と模擬戦をさせる試験って、勝敗に関わらず前線送りは確定ってことだよな。戦況が芳しくない証拠だと思われる。ミミの新しい花冠の花言葉を考察すると、アイビーは「忠誠」「友情」「永遠の命」、かすみ草は「無邪気」「純粋」「永遠の愛」、ブルースターは「強さ」「不屈」という意味が込められてるんだな。考察くん
Roskal
yuri anime sure do love their flower symbolism.
百合アニメって花の象徴使いすぎだろッ!でもそれがたまらなくエモいんだよな…!感情くん
zairaner
Hanamonogatari be thanked.
花物語には感謝だね。普通くん
CitronClassic672
Talk about it, I’ve noticed it in 4 yuri anime I’ve watched since last year.
それな!!去年から見た百合アニメ4作品中、全部それ感じたわ!!気づいてた人いたんだな、マジで同意すぎるッ!感情くん
absolutelynotaname
the genre is name after a flower after all
そもそもジャンル名が花の名前なんだよね普通くん
extralie
Ivy: fidelity, friendship, eternal life I learned that from playing HBR, which is very concerning to me...
アイビーって忠誠、友情、永遠の命やろ……ワイHBRで学んでしもたわ、これガチでやばいンゴ……2ちゃん
eternal_slavo
I am not so sure about this duel. Seiran seems to me like a RPG character on her first playthrough doing side content to lvl up, while Mimi is like on her upteenth game+ hardcore mode with some OP build
この決闘、正直考察が難しいな。セイランはまるでRPG初見プレイヤーがサイドクエストでレベル上げしてる感覚だし、ミミは周回プレイのハードコアモードで強ビルド組んでるような存在だと思われる。この対比は、経験値の差というよりプレイスタイルの違いが如実に出てる伏線なのかもしれない。考察くん
JayWhy75
I've been thinking the two options in my mind are that Mimi goes too hard (I assume they have guidelines to not seriously injure or kill because otherwise you'd never get new soldiers) and Seiran gets seriously mangled or Seiran holds her own enough and they call it in time but she gets approved to go even if she isn't ready because they need the bodies. Either way, awful result.
ミミがやりすぎるか(新兵を重傷させたり殺したりしないガイドラインがあるはずだよね、そうじゃなきゃ新兵が育たないし)、せいらんが大怪我するか、せいらんがなんとか耐えて時間内に止められるけど、人員不足で準備ができてなくても出撃が認められるか、って二択をずっと考えてる。どっちにしろ結果は最悪だな。普通くん
PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL
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I've been thinking the two options in my mind are that Mimi goes too hard (I assume they have guidelines to not seriously injure or kill because otherwise you'd never get new soldiers) I usually don't make posts on threads this old because realistically the chances of my post being seen are really low. However I want to note that in this episode, you can actually read the paper Omi is holding . The fourth point says "No fatal injury shall be inflicted upon an opponent". So yes, it's explicitly part of the rules that the opponents cannot kill each other. It's silly anyways, since it's already been stated in a previous episode that the school does not like pointless casualties. They are extremely short on manpower. They cannot afford to sacrifice students at a whim. Also, military leadership and teachers alike feel bad for the students. But then you can say, "but Mimi does not understand death. She can kill Seiran accidentally". I've been seeing this take a lot in this thread, and it is kind of driving me insane honestly. Mimi is not an idiot; throughout this show it is shown that not only does she have remarkable emotional intelligence, but she is also very talented with magic. She can mimic an enemy's spells from seeing them (she does this twice to show Sheena the kinds of injuries inflicted on her), and she can understand what others feel on an instinctual level. Two good examples of this are the last episode, and this episode. In the last episode, Sheena helped out the boy with putting the book back on the shelf. When Mimi saw this, she understood that Sheena gives attention to people who are struggling, and she became jealous, so almost immediately after, she gets into an 'accident' and needs 'healing'. This is in spite of the fact that she basically didn't become injured from having books fall on her at all, and that she can heal herself. The implication here is that Mimi deliberately manufactured that accident to get comforted by Sheena. In this episode, Mimi lies about not being injured or feeling any pain because she understands that Sheena hates to see her in pain. She also dislikes being in pain herself, which is why she beelines for Sheena every day and tries to make sure she's not bloody when that happens. Mimi understands that being covered in blood is bad. Mimi understands that Sheena will worry for her if she's hurt. Mimi understands what "getting hurt" is. And, on that point, Mimi understands what death is. She knows that people die when they are killed. She's not like some Flandre Scarlet fanon interpretation where she thinks people turn into broken toys when they die. She also understands that it is painful to die. What Mimi does not understand is the weight of death. Mimi is happy to be sent off to battle because that means she is being useful, not because she thinks killing people is awesome. And ultimately, the only reason why Mimi does not understand the weight of death is because she's not allowed to talk to people enough to understand it. All of your understanding of morality and social norms comes from you passively absorbing that knowledge from being raised in human society. Mimi was not afforded that luxury. She has never been able to see someone plead for their life, because everyone she kills is an enemy soldier who sees her as a monster. She has never seen anyone grieve for a dead comrade, because she's never been allowed to interact with her fellow students until now. She understands the physical process of death, and that it is final for everyone but her, but she does not understand that it is meant to be a tragedy because nobody taught her that. Except for the past 6 episodes Sheena has been telling her that. The only way she kills Seiran by accident is if she underestimates the strength of her own attacks, but even if that happens, she absolutely would understand she did something bad.
ワイはずっと考えてたんやけど、ミミがやりすぎって話あるやん(多分ガイドラインで重傷や殺しは禁止されてるんやろな。そうせんと新兵が永遠に増えんから) 正直こんな古いスレに書き込むのはほぼ見られんから無駄やと思っとったんやけど、今回のエピソードでオミが持っとる紙が読めるんや。第4条に「相手に致命的な傷害を与えてはならない」って明記されてるで。つまり対戦相手同士が殺し合うのはルールで禁止されてるんや。 そもそも前のエピソードで学校が無駄な犠牲を嫌っとるって明言されてたしな。人手がガチで足りてないから、学生を適当に犠牲にする余裕なんてないんや。軍の上層部も教師も学生に同情しとるしな。 でも「ミミは死を理解しとらんから、セイランを事故で殺しかねん」って意見もあるやろ。このスレでめっちゃ見かけるんやけど、正直ワイはそれで頭おかしくなりそうやわ。 ミミはアホやないで。このアニメ通して見れば分かるけど、彼女は感情知能が高いだけやなく、魔法の才能も凄いんや。敵の呪文を見ただけで模倣できるし(シーナに負傷の種類を見せるために2回もやってた)、相手の感情を本能で理解できるんや。 具体例が前回と今回のエピソードにあるで。前回、シーナが本を棚に戻すのを手伝ったやろ2ちゃん
Noobu_assassin
Very well written comment. I agree with everything you said for the most part, I highly doubt Seiran will die during the duel, at worst get badly injured and we get character building from that. More likely Seiran will die after the duel during actual combat because there's so many death flags around her that there's absolutely no way she lives until the end of this season.
このコメントは非常に論理的で、同意できる部分が多い。決闘中にセイランが死ぬ可能性は低いという考察は妥当だと思う。最悪の場合、重傷を負ってキャラクターの成長に繋がる展開が来るだろう。むしろ、決闘後の実戦で死ぬ可能性が高い。というのも、彼女には死亡フラグが大量に立っていて、このままシーズン終了まで生存するのは考えにくいからだ。考察くん
Lankymetal-uk
This is my thinking, she'll survive the duel, maybe with some sort of injury either from her own exertion or Mimi giving her a bit too much at some point. Problem will be after giving a very good fight and "passing" her combat readiness exam she'll be called up to combat before being fully healed, then we get the pain of losing Seiran.
彼女は決闘は生き残ると思うんだ。自分の消耗か、ミミがちょっとやり過ぎたかで、何かしら怪我をするかもしれないけどね。問題は、いい戦いを見せて「戦闘準備完了」の試験に合格した後、完全に治る前に戦場に召集されることだ。そしてセイランを失う苦しみが待ってるんだろうな。普通くん
master_inho
I was thinking that seiran could actually win. She absolutely wouldn't be holding back while mimi might, as she knows she could probably dog walk seiran if she really wanted to
「セイラン、実は勝てるんじゃないかって思ってたんだよ。ミミの方は手加減しそうだけど、セイランは絶対本気だし。ミミが本気出せば多分セイランをボコボコにできるって分かってるからさ…しんどいな、この構図無理すぎる」感情くん
AdStellasNovas2234
The infirmary scene really amped up the brutality of war. Sheena was clearly not ready to face what was inside that bag, only to realise it was Mimi. On the bright side, we got plenty of sweet yuri moments this episode, from Sheena making a new flower crown for Mimi to Ali declaring her full support for Seiran. I really hope everyone, especially Seiran, makes it out safe and sound next episode!
医務室のシーンは戦争の残酷さを強調してたな。シーナは明らかにあの袋の中身を見る覚悟ができてなかったのに、それがミミだと気づく展開が辛すぎた。明るい面では、今週はユリ要素がたっぷりだったね。シーナがミミに新しい花冠を作る場面や、アリがセイランへの全面支援を宣言する場面とか。次回はみんな、特にセイランが無事に生き残ってほしいと心から願ってる。普通くん
Sleepy10105s
Do you guys think Sheena apprentice under Fran or the other teacher to learn a way to make herself useful? We’ve seen hints of Herr having some sort of potential and now a lot of talk about wanting to be useful
ワイ的には、シーナはフランかもう一人の先生に弟子入りして役に立つ方法を学ぶんちゃうかな?ヘルに何かしらの才能の片鱗が見えてたし、今は「役に立ちたい」って話がめっちゃ出てきてるやん。どっちに師事するか気になるンゴwww2ちゃん
Reapr
Yeah the plant 'healing' had me thinking the same, it would suit her if her power leans towards healing, she can put the poor kids back together when they come back after a fight
あの植物の“治癒”シーン、俺も同じこと思ってたわ。彼女の能力が回復寄りなら確かに合ってると思う。戦いから戻ってきた可哀想な子供たちを元に戻してやれるしな。普通くん
CitronClassic672
Yeah, it would be quite fitting if Sheena, someone who cares so much about keeping Mimi and the other students from getting hurt or dying in combat, developed her magic into being a healer who can take away their pain and keep them alive.
せやな、ミミとか他の生徒が戦闘で怪我したり死んだりせんようにめっちゃ気ぃ使っとるシーナやから、その魔法が痛みを消して生かすヒーラー系に発展するのはめっちゃ筋通っとるわwww2ちゃん
Sleepy10105s
Exactly and we’ve had a staff and student example of someone contributing another way other than combat. There’s Fran and the boy we saw taking notes and analyzing during the practice battle.
それな。戦闘以外の方法で貢献してる例が、スタッフと生徒の両方にあったじゃん。フランと、模擬戦中にノート取って分析してた男の子がそうだね。普通くん
Own_Caterpillar_6178
Maybe she will heal Seiran after Mimi wrecks her in the duel.
ミミが決闘でセイランをボコボコにした後、彼女がセイランを癒すかもしれないんだよね。それエモすぎるんだけど!感情くん
extralie
That's seems to be the setup so far, for her to become a healer.
今のところ、彼女がヒーラーになるための布石みたいだね。普通くん
eightcheesepizza
I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, but I thought I saw some faint green sparks of Sheena's healing magic, when Sheena hugged Mimi in Fran's office.
まだ誰も触れてないけど、フラン先生のオフィスでシーナがミミを抱きしめた時、シーナの治癒魔法の淡い緑の火花が見えた気がしたんだよ。あれ絶対そうだよね!?エモすぎるんだけど!感情くん
shad79
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That sudden art style change when Fran entered the room and saw crying Sheena and Mimi cracked me up, hahaha! Though it's no wonder that both Sheena and Mimi were crying , especially Sheena . I too would be considerably emotionally disturbed if someone gave me a bag with the bloody body of my friend . So it looks like Seiran will soon join the real fighting too , as she's gonna have a test duel with Mimi in order to determine if she's ready. I don't like that, though. I really like her and Ari 's relationship , but now, Seiran is gonna be the prime suspect for becoming another victim of this war, especially since she said that she's gonna give it her all... Here my screenshot albums from the episode: Ari & Seiran (Group scenes) Ari Seiran Sheena & Mimi (Group scenes) Sheena Mimi Others (Group & Single scenes) EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.
フランが部屋に入って泣いてるシーナとミミを見た時の急な画風変化には笑ったわ、ははは!でもシーナもミミも泣くのも無理ないよね、特にシーナは。友達の血まみれの遺体が入った袋を渡されたら、俺もかなり精神的に参ると思うし。で、青嵐ももうすぐ本格的な戦闘に参加しそうだね。ミミとの模擬戦で準備ができてるか試すみたい。でもそれはちょっといやだな。アリと青嵐の関係はすごく好きなんだけど、青嵐が次の戦争の犠牲者になる最有力候補になりそうで、特に全力を出すって言ってたからさ…エピソードのスクショアルバムを貼っておくね: ・アリ&青嵐(グループシーン) ・アリ ・青嵐 ・シーナ&ミミ(グループシーン) ・シーナ ・ミミ ・その他(グループ&単独シーン) 追記:スクショアルバム追加したよ。普通くん
LeonKevlar
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I really like that opening scene. It's a simple line, "I'm sorry, Sheena.", but it was enough to convey that Mimi is smarter than people give her credit for. She knows that there's no way she can keep her promise, and she has to put on an act to comfort Sheena. I wish we get to see more of Mimi's inner thoughts like this. We finally got to see what it looks like after students come back from a battle , and it's as horrifying as I expected. We've already seen magic regrow limbs, but that does not make the scene less horrible with everyone bleeding and crying out in pain, while some might not even make it. 😢 I legitimately yelped when Sheena was inside Fran's office and we had the teacher who collects Mimi's body parts knock. Fran-sensei could've sent Sheena away and told her to come back later, but the fact that she sent Sheena back there means she probably wanted her to see this. Hearing Mimi call out to Sheena while inside that bloody sack , and then crawl out of it broken and covered in blood was horrifying. Yeah, if I were Sheena, I'd also start crying. I'm just glad that Sheena saw Mimi after she had already put herself back together, not in pieces. Can we just have these girls have fun making flower crowns for each other instead of fighting and getting hurt? T_T So it looks like despite all of her sacrifices, Mimi is no longer enough and they need more students to join the fight. How unfortunate that the first one they're recruiting is Seiran and it looks like she needs to duel Mimi as part of her combat readiness exam. >_ As terrible as this situation is, I think it's amusing that the other students think Seiran is still too young to take the exam , considering Mimi would be biologically younger. I guess since she has already come back from multiple missions, it's pretty much an open secret that Mimi is their superweapon. I absolutely love this scene between Seiran and Ari. We even got to see what Seiran's life was like before the orphanage took her in. Seeing that flashback, I can understand why Seiran is so serious about repaying the school . She could've died like a feral dog eating rats, but the orphanage gave her a chance to live a somewhat normal life. And if it wasn't for the teacher who found her, she wouldn't have met Ari. I am scared for next week's episode. I'm not worried about something happening to Seiran during her duel with Mimi. I think Mimi is smart enough not to hurt Seiran seriously. I'm more worried about what's gonna happen if she actually passes the exam. >_
冒頭のシーンほんまに良かったわ。「ごめんね、シーナ」って一言だけで、ミミが周りが思ってるより賢いって伝わってくるンゴ。約束守れへんって分かってて、シーナを慰めるために演技してるんやな。もっとミミの内面描写見たいわ。 戦闘から帰ってきた生徒たちの姿、ようやく見れたけど想像通りグロかったわ…。魔法で手足が再生できても、皆が血まみれで痛みに泣き叫ぶ姿はやっぱりキツイ😢 フラン先生の部屋でミミのパーツを回収する先生がノックした時はワイも声出たわ。シーナを送り返したのは、わざと見せたかったんやろな。血まみれの袋から這い出てくるミミはガチでホラーやった。ワイがシーナでも泣くわ。 せめて花冠作りとか平和なシーンも見せてくれや…T_T ミミの犠牲でも足りなくなって新戦力募集か。最初の候補がセイランで、実力試験でミミと決闘って…。他の生徒がセイランは若すぎるって言ってるの笑うわ。生物学的にはミミの方が若いのに。ミミが切り札って暗黙の了解なんやな。 セイランとアリのシーン最高やった。孤児院に入る前の生活も見られて、学校に恩義を感じてる理由が分かったわ。野良犬みたいに死ぬとこやったのに、拾ってくれた先生のおかげでアリと出会えた2ちゃん
zairaner
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We even got to see what Seiran's life was like before the orphanage took her in. Seeing that flashback, I can understand why Seiran is so serious about repaying the school. I think it is here that for us viewers it pays off that this series has, quite literally. the least amount of worldbuilding in any fantasy series I have ever seen, and quite certainly intentionally so. Like the girls, we know NOTHING about the world outside the oprhanage (apart from necromancy being banned), and if the only thing we get to see of them is their life before and their current life, of copurse we see why they never would want anything else.
セイランの孤児院に引き取られる前の生活が描かれたのは大きい。あのフラッシュバックを見ると、彼女が学校への恩返しにこれほど真剣な理由が理解できる。この作品は、俺が今まで見たどのファンタジー作品よりも徹底的に世界観構築を削ぎ落としている——明らかに意図的にな。孤児院の外の世界について、俺たち視聴者は少女たちと同じく何も知らない(死霊術が禁止されていること以外は)。彼女たちの過去と現在しか見せないことで、なぜ彼女たちが他の何も望まないのか、自然と納得させられる構造になってるんだよな。考察くん
CitronClassic672
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Mimi apologizing for breaking her promise to Sheena, trying to play off her injuries as not serious she Sheena doesn’t worry, as well as noticing Sheena was emotionally distressed during the bathing scene last episode really do a lot to show she’s a lot more intelligent than she initially seems. I wonder how much more this is conveyed in the original LN vs the anime? Does it have sections from Mimi’s POV with her thoughts on things vs the anime where you you have to infer it from small scenes?
ミミがシーナに約束を破ったことを謝りつつ、怪我を大したことないとごまかして心配させないようにする場面や、前回の入浴シーンでシーナが精神的に苦しんでいるのを見抜くところは、彼女が最初に見せる印象よりずっと賢いことをよく示してるよね。原作のライトノベルではどれくらい深く描かれてるのか気になるな。ミミの視点での内面描写があるのか、それともアニメみたいに小さなシーンから推測する感じなのか。普通くん
BosuW
The source material is a manga.
原作は漫画なんだけど!てか知ってた?笑ギャル
CitronClassic672
Oh, could’ve swore I heard it was a LN
あれ、ライトノベルだって聞いた気がしたんだけどな。普通くん
BosuW
Understandable confusion. A lot of the times with fantasy, it is a LN lol
ファンタジー系は大体ラノベやからな、そりゃ混乱するわwww2ちゃん
CitronClassic672
And with yuri
やばくない!?百合要素まじで最高なんだけど!笑ギャル
BosuW
原文
How unfortunate that the first one they're recruiting is Seiran Rather, it looks like she's been volunteering herself for a while now... As terrible as this situation is, I think it's amusing that the other students think Seiran is still too young to take the exam They probably feel protective of their juniors. But at the same time, they understand Seiran's desire to repay the school. So they'll gossip about it but they're probably rooting for her in the exam. This place and situation breeds a curious way to show caring.
最初に勧誘されたのがセイランなのは残念だね。彼女はずっと自分から志願してたみたいだし…この状況は酷いけど、他の生徒たちがセイランはまだ試験を受けるには若すぎると思ってるのは面白いな。後輩を守りたい気持ちがあるんだろうね。でも同時に、学校に恩返ししたいっていうセイランの気持ちも理解してる。だから噂話はするけど、試験では応援してるんじゃないかな。この場所と状況が、独特な気遣いの形を生んでるんだね。普通くん
zairaner
"Oh that's gore. That's gore of my comfort character"- Sheena in Fran's room
あれはグロだわw 俺の推しキャラのグロシーンだぞwwwwwwおじ
AceSoldia
Seiren is gonna super die by Mimi's hands in this duel isn't she? I just don't think Mimi understands the difference between this exam and a real fight..and it's gonna be brutal. I hope I'm wrong.
セイレン、このデュエルでミミにやられちゃうんじゃない?てかミミ、この試験と本当の戦いの違いわかってない気がするんだけど…やばくない?めっちゃ残酷なことになりそう。私の勘違いだといいんだけど。ギャル
shad79
Seiran sure has the highest chances of dying, though I don't believe it'll happen during her duel with Mimi , but at the same time, I don't rule it out completely. By the way, Ari and Seiran 's conversation took place in the same spot where we saw those two kissing girls , and now that blonde girl is already dead, so... Ari and Seiran's relationship prospects don't look good, guys 😢
セイランは確かに死亡フラグが一番立ってるよね。ミミとの決闘で死ぬとは思わないけど、完全に否定もできないかな。ところで、アリとセイランの会話があった場所って、あの二人のキスシーンがあった場所と同じだよね。しかもあの金髪の子はもう死んでるし…アリとセイランの関係は前途多難だな😢普通くん
TheBusStop12
I personally think Seiran might die at some point, but then Ari will attempt to resurrect her and exchange her life instead. In am earlier episode Ari romanticized the ultimate sacrifice of resurrection magic for a loved one
個人的には、セイランがどこかで死ぬ可能性があると思うんだよな。でもその後、アリが彼女を蘇生させようとして、代わりに自分の命を捧げる展開になるんじゃないかと考察してる。以前のエピソードでアリが愛する人のための蘇生魔法の究極の犠牲を美化してたのが伏線だと思われるんだよな。考察くん
ViraClone
This may be one of the largest and most tragic death flags I've seen. It's going to suck.
これは今まで見た中でも最大級に重い死亡フラグだと思う。絶対つらいわ。普通くん
TheBusStop12
This whole show was animated on a massive death flag tbh
この作品、最初から死のフラグ立てまくりだったんだよな…しんどすぎるッ!感情くん
CitronClassic672
Ari and Seiran have had had the highest amount of shared death flags I’ve ever seen from two people in a relationship.
アリとセイランは、交際中の2人としては今まで見た中で一番多くの死亡フラグを共有してると思うわ。普通くん
Alej_11
I swear, I got the same exact vibes when she said "Don't hold back". Mimi is not a bad kid, but she doesn't understand things like morality or other stuff. She is 100% going to kill her accidentally
まじでわかるんだけど!?「遠慮しないで」って言った時、完全に同じこと思ったわ笑。ミミは悪い子じゃないんだけど、倫理とかそういうの理解できてない感じがやばい。絶対あれ、事故で殺しちゃうパターンじゃね?ギャル
AceSoldia
It's gonna be a "I thought you were stronger" scene as Mimi stands over Seiren's bloody corpse.
ミミがセイレンの血まみれの遺体を見下ろす「強くなったと思ってたのに」展開になるんだろ…しんどすぎるッ!感情くん
Alej_11
The worst thing is that she views all of this as a game, she even asks sheena if she's going to cheer her in the duel. Sheena explained to her how much this is worth for seiren, but she didn't understant, I'm 100% sure
最悪なのは、彼女がこれを全部ゲーム感覚で見てることだよね。決闘で応援してくれるかシーナに聞くくらいだし。シーナがセイレンにとってどれだけ大事なことか説明したけど、彼女は理解してなかった。100%確信してる。普通くん
CitronClassic672
Oh god, never have I simultaneously wanted and not wanted something to happen in a show.
やばくね!?このアニメで起こってほしいことと起こってほしくないことが同時にありすぎてまじで心臓もつわよ笑ギャル
One_Question3972
Really short-sighted if the teachers let that happen. Putting your most promising young student against your unkillable super weapon and expecting her to win or die isn't a good idea when you need more soldiers. Much more likely to die during an actual battle I feel
教師陣がそれを許したのはかなり視野が狭いと言わざるを得ないな。最も有望な若手生徒を不死身の超兵器とぶつけて、勝つか死ぬかを期待するのは、兵士が足りない状況では得策じゃない。実際の戦場で命を落とす可能性の方が遥かに高いという考察ができる。考察くん
Roskal
原文
Are they supposed to have training spells that don't do real damage or something because I'm worried about that too. surely they know the risk of not properly explaining to Mimi its not actually to the death when they are so low on forces. Personally I think Seiran is going to lose the battle but they are going to enlist her anyway because they need more fighters but she'll die on her first mission because she wasn't ready.
訓練用の魔法で実際にはダメージを与えないってことなのかな?そこも心配だわ。戦力が少ないのに、ミミに「本当に死ぬわけじゃない」ってちゃんと説明しないリスクを彼らは分かってるはずだよね。個人的にはセイランは戦いに負けるけど、戦力が必要だから採用されると思う。でも準備不足のまま初任務で死ぬんじゃないかな。普通くん
extralie
They will probably have one of the teachers overseeing the fight to stop it when things go too far.
教師が戦いを見守ってて、やりすぎたら止めるって感じになりそうだよな…まあ、それが普通だよな。感情くん
Taedirk
Right up until Ari kills herself to bring her back and the administration can condemn creating a second immortal as "totally not our fault for reals."
アリが自分を殺してまで彼女を蘇らせるまではね!しかも運営が「第二の不死者を作ったのは全然こっちのせいじゃないし!」って開き直るのやばくない!?笑ギャル
thisisdropd
原文
I wonder how much hurt would the school allow Seiran to be in. Can't see her winning against an immortal opponent who could easily heal an otherwise fatal injury. Having said that, I reckon the exam was about how far could Seiran push Mimi instead of outright winning the duel. It's always great to see more Ari-Seiran moments after it's missing last week. Ari testing Seiran's resolve by acting as if she's about to attack before they tenderly embraced each other.
学校がセイランにどこまでのダメージを許すのか気になるな。不老不死で致命傷も簡単に治せる相手に勝てるとは思えないけど、試験の目的はミミをどこまで追い込めるかってことだったんだろうね。先週なかったアリとセイランの絡みがまた見れて良かったよ。アリが攻撃するふりをしてセイランの覚悟を試してから、優しく抱きしめ合うシーンは最高だった。普通くん
ash-7831
The main thing they'll need to test here is whether or not she'll go for the kill. In her head, she knows Mimi can survive a kill shot. But would she intentionally deliver one herself?
まじでここが肝じゃない?彼女が本気で殺しに行くかどうかって話よ。頭ではミミが致命傷耐えられるって分かってるんだけど、自分からその一撃をわざと食らわせられるかってのが問題じゃん!ギャル
Zeph-Shoir
They are definitely testing her willingness, but do the teachers know that Seiran knows about her immortality? Seiran might be more willing here because of that but that would also mean that this isn't a proper test to see if she will be willing enough in the battlefield. I highly doubt it will, but I was thinking that this could backfire instead.
彼女の覚悟を試しているのは間違いないが、教師陣は青蘭が不死のことを知っていると把握しているのだろうか?青蘭はその知識があるからこそ、ここでの覚悟が大きくなっている可能性がある。だが、それなら戦場で本当に覚悟を持てるかどうかの適切な試練にはならないという考察ができる。逆効果になる可能性も考えられるが、そうはならないことを願いたい。考察くん
Alej_11
It doesn't matter if she wins or loses, the important is how well she can hold off mimi. The important part is surviving, as long as she doesn't die in the match she will be deemed good enough to go.
勝っても負けても関係ないんや、大事なのはミミをどれだけ抑えられるかやろ。生き残ることこそ正義やで。試合で死ななきゃ合格点もらえるンゴ。2ちゃん
BosuW
Remember that Sheena lost an arm in training and they were prepared to handle that. Now, that wasn't supposed to happen. But if it does, they're ready.
シーナが訓練で腕を失ったこと、忘れんなよ。あれは想定外だったけど、彼らはその事態に備えてたんだ。今度はそうなるはずじゃなかった。でも、もしそうなったら、彼らは準備万端なんだよ。感情くん
BlazeBloom
If Seiran wants to win against Mimi she'll have to exploit her one weakness...Math class! You know what they say in card games...It's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-Duel! Thank you Yami Yugi Sheena!
セイランがミミに勝つなら、弱点を突くしかないよね…数学の授業だ!カードゲームで言うところの…決闘だーーー!闇遊戯シーナ、ありがとう!普通くん
TheBusStop12
原文
I'm getting a horrible feeling. Like seeing a train careening at full tilt down the track in the wrong direction. I don't see the other train coming from the other direction yet, but I just know it'll be there at some point Seiran being prepared to be sent into battle, and the earlier episode where Ari was romanticizing the ultimate sacrifice of resurrection magic for a loved one just cannot end well
セイランが戦場に送られる準備をしている描写と、アリが愛する人のための蘇生魔法という究極の犠牲を美化していた前回のエピソードを踏まえると、この展開はどう考えても破滅フラグでしかない。まるで暴走列車が進行方向を誤ったまま突き進み、対向車線から来る別の列車が見えていないような、あの不穏な感覚だ。いつ衝突が起きてもおかしくない伏線が張られていると思われる。考察くん
Mindless_Being_22
holy shit they took off their masks.
マジかよ、仮面外したんだ。普通くん