放送 2026-08-18更新 2026-08-20
zairaner
We are so lucky that this airs directly after young ladies don't play fighting games. So after all he stressfull battle shonen yuri, we can immediately relax with a bit of fluff mimi!
「ヤングレディは格闘ゲームをしない」の直後にやってくれるから最高だわw シリアスなバトル百合で張り詰めた後、すぐにミミの癒しでリラックスできるんだからなw まじ神スケジュールだろwwwwwwおじ
Mikufuri
Does he know?
彼、知ってるのかな?普通くん
WhoiusBarrel
Bro is acting like the other characters passing by when Seiran vanished into thin air.
セイランが虚空に消え去った瞬間、周囲の者たちがまるで何も見えぬかのように通り過ぎる。我が目は確かに捉えたというのに、彼らはその事実から目を背ける。まるで運命の歯車が狂ったかのような、この不条理よ。中二病
dinliner08
"must be the wind"
「風のせいだな」普通くん
Etiennera
I thought maybe mimi has a sixth sense and saw her soul holding on but she wasn't really there. Maybe others can feel it at best but she can see it clearly because she's dead? There's no basis for vanishing clothes and all in this series, is there? She heard voices trying to treat her and died elsewhere.
ミミには第六感があって、彼女の魂がまだ繋がっているのを見ていたけど、実際にはそこにいなかったのかもしれないな。他の者はせいぜい感じ取れる程度だが、彼女は死者だからはっきり見えるという考察ができる。このシリーズに服が消えるとかの根拠はないよな?彼女は治療しようとする声を聞いて、別の場所で死んでいたと思われる。考察くん
ghostpickleonastick
The soldiers are all set to self-disintegrate upon death, because they can't risk letting a body fall into enemy hands. It's first explained at the funeral/vigil for Sheena's first roommate.
シーナの最初のルームメイトの葬儀・通夜で初めて説明されるんだけど、兵士たちは死んだ時に自己崩壊するように設定されてるんだ。敵の手に遺体が渡るリスクを絶対に冒せないからね。この設定、重すぎて泣けるッ!感情くん
Etiennera
I suppose that rings a bell. I missed watching for 3 weeks or so because I forgot to pen down the schedule so I forgot a few details. Makes me think the dialogue about the others not even noticing seemed a bit uncalled for.
なるほど、それで心当たりがある。3週間ほど視聴スケジュールをメモし忘れて見逃してたんだが、細部をいくつか忘れてしまっていた。他の連中が気づきもしなかったというセリフは、それを踏まえると少し唐突に感じられたという考察ができるな。考察くん
Hitman7128
Let's keep him blissfully unaware for goofs! (Jokes aside, he's a source reader)
ゴーフのために彼には気づかれないままでいようぜ!(冗談はさておき、彼は原作勢だからね)普通くん
eightcheesepizza
I fucked up and forgot what was foreshadowed for today, and I definitely watched these shows in the wrong order this morning. Still over an hour until Ghost in the Shell might save me from this mood.
なんと、拙者も同じ過ちを犯し申した!今朝の視聴順、見事に間違えてしまい、この憂鬱を払うには「攻殻機動隊」を待つ他あるまい。されど、まだ一時間余り…長き待ち時間でござるな。武士
BosuW
With TGitS it might be a coin flip though. Though I certainly don't expect "main character death" there.
TGitSに関しては五分五分かもね。でも、メインキャラが死ぬとは思わないけどな。普通くん
i_know_the_void
Ha! But seriously, I had the opposite planned for today - I held off on Fighting Games for two weeks so that I could watch some funny episodes after this.
はっ!でもマジで、俺は今日逆のこと考えてたわw 2週間格ゲー我慢して、これ見た後に笑えるエピソード観ようと思ってたんだよ笑wwwおじ
Elifia
I didn't hold off on watching any episodes, but I do make sure every week to watch Dying Day before Fighting Games. Just because I knew something like this was going to happen eventually. So with that said, I'm now going to watch my Fighting Games yuri to clear my mind.
週ごとに観る順番を意図的に決めてたんだな。『ファイティングゲームズ』の前に『ダイイングデイ』を観ることで、こういう展開が来ることを予感してたんだろう。つまり、この構成は最初から計算された伏線だったと考察できる。そして今、心を浄化するために百合に逃避するという流れは、視聴者心理として非常に理にかなってる。考察くん
Meander061
Thank God I saved Fighting Games for after this.
まじで助かったわ!格ゲーをこの後に取っておいて正解だったじゃん!ギャル
Oden_sama__
i was already in shambles after yesterday's episode of toumei wa yoru ni this week is just full of tragedy, huh.
昨日のトウメイは夜にの回で既にボロボロやったのに、今週は tragedy 尽くしやんけ…。ワイの心が持たんンゴwww2ちゃん
dvdantunes
me too, after yesterday's episode I was not prepared to cry again 😢
それな、昨日のエピソードの後でまた泣く準備できてなかったわ😢普通くん
Meander061
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このコメントはReddit運営によって削除されたで。内容は分からんけど、なんか炎上したんやろなあ2ちゃん
Weak_Season_Of_Anime
Speechless. It's so fucked up that no one else noticed Seiran passing because she doesn't even leave a body behind, and then they play that damn ED after.
言葉が出ないよ。セイランが死んだのに誰も気づかないのが本当に辛い。遺体すら残らないからね。それなのにあのEDが流れるのは反則だわ。普通くん
Suspicious-Value8260
原文
That scene was just the cherry on top of this episode. Nonstop death flags for Seiran, constant anxiety for me watching it, 2 fakeout deaths, Seiran wanting desperately to prove her usefulness to the school and protect Ari, coming back from her first mission traumatized, then the story ends with with one last fakeout making you think she survived only for her to die right in front of Mimi and for the other students to basically forget she ever existed. This series is not holding back from portraying how hellish the war is.
あのシーンは今回のエピソードの締めくくりとして完璧だったな。セイランの死亡フラグが立て続けに立ち、見てるこっちはずっと気が気じゃなかった。偽りの生存が2回もあって、セイランは学校に自分の価値を示してアリを守りたいと必死で、初任務からトラウマを抱えて戻ってきた。それなのに最後にもう一度偽りの生存を見せて生き延びたと思わせといて、ミミの目の前で死んで、他の生徒たちは彼女の存在を忘れたかのようだ。この作品は戦争の地獄を描くのに一切手加減してないな。ドライおじ
ExcitableSarcasm
Honestly I read the manga a while back and haven't kept up. I checked back in because I remember Seiran's death honestly being one of the more impactful anime deaths considering how early it happens, and boy did it deliver. Might go watch the whole thing from the start now.
正直、昔マンガ読んでたけど追うのやめてたんだ。でも青嵐の死が序盤なのにすごく印象的だったの思い出して見直してみたら、やっぱり良かったわ。最初から全部見直そうかな。普通くん
Noobu_assassin
I was under the impression this anime would be finished in 12 episodes or so. How much more content is there from the manga?
はぁ!?12話で終わると思ってたのに!?マジで!?原作どれだけ残ってるんだよ!続き気になりすぎてしんどいんだけど!感情くん
Aurielqt
At the current pace we'll likely cover up to volume 6 in this season if it's 12 episodes.
今のペースなら12話で6巻までいきそうじゃん!やばくね?ギャル
Alone_Sign_9740
I should really invert the order of this anime and Fighting game. My soul is crushed. I kinda hoped that in the necklace there was the forbidden spell to resuscitate the death. However, the moral dilemma if it’s right to bring back a soul because we refute to let go. I believe Mimi will now start her wake up arc. Also, war is hell.
このアニメと格闘ゲームの視聴順、本当に逆にすべきだった。心が抉られたよ。ネックレスに死者を蘇らせる禁術が仕込まれてるんじゃないかと淡い期待を抱いてたんだがな。しかし、手放すことを拒むがゆえに魂を呼び戻すのが正しいのかという倫理的ジレンマは深い考察ポイントだと思われる。ミミはここから覚醒編に入るというのが俺の見立てだ。それにしても、戦争は地獄だな。考察くん
Ikari_21
Same, I wish I watched this first so that I can wash it away with some funny and cute girls playing fighting games. My soul is crushed. AGAIN (after yesterday’s ep of Love Unseen)
まじわかる!これ先に見たかったんだけど!?かわいい子たちが格ゲーしてるの見て癒されたかったのに…。心ボッコボコなんだけど!!てか昨日の『Love Unseen』のあとでさ、またこれかよ…泣けるわマジで。ギャル
Grabul
I was wondering if that necklace had the forbidden magic somehow...
あのネックレスに禁じられた魔法が仕込まれてるんじゃないかって思ってたんだよね…普通くん
SoraVanitus
原文
She did a good job making it back to rollcall and start heading home but she couldn't even make it back. Like I knew she was done, then I got a bit of hope but then that stagger and when she said she was cold I knew it was too late... actually it was a done deal when she used all her first aid to stop the guys bleeding... Honestly, I feel like Ari just wanted Seiren to be there by her side and Seiren ignored Ari and threw herself into war, only to die like that with no body or remains to take back, legit dying without a trace. It's not even that they forget she existed, they didn't even she had just died. It's also a reflection on the fact that Seiren thinks she is all important and wants to leave a significant contribution only for her life and person to not matter at all. She didn't die a hero, she didn't die in a blaze of glory, she didn't die in a way for anyone to know her or remember her. She was just a soldier, a nobody, someone of no signicance that got snuff out without anyone but Mimi witnessing it.
彼女が点呼に戻って家路につくところまでは頑張ったけど、結局たどり着けなかったんだよな。もう終わったと思ったのに、少し希望を持ったら、あのよろめきと「寒い」って言葉で手遅れだと悟った…実は、彼女が全救急キットを男の止血に使った時点で決着してたんだ。個人的には、アリはセイレンがそばにいてほしかっただけで、セイレンはそれを無視して戦争に飛び込んだ結果、遺体も遺品もなく消えたように死んだんだと思う。記憶から消えることすらなく、彼女が死んだことさえ気づかれなかった。これは、セイレンが自分は重要だと思い込み、大きな功績を残そうとしたのに、結局その存在が何の意味も持たなかったことの反映でもある。英雄として死んだわけでも、輝かしい最期でもなく、誰にも知られず記憶されることもない死に方だった。彼女はただの兵士、無名の存在で、ミミ以外誰も見届けないまま消えていったんだ。考察くん
Zeph-Shoir
I was expecting her to be revived by Ari, I thought that they talking about how Mimi was resurrected was foreshadowing it. So Seiran straight up vanishing made my jaw DROP!
アリが彼女を蘇生させると思ってたんだよね。ミミが復活した話が伏線だと思ってたから。だから晴嵐が完全に消えたのは本当に衝撃的すぎて言葉が出なかったよ。普通くん
BlazeBloom
Wasn't the 1419 girl just with us? I don't know, maybe this new ED will help us remember.
1419の少女ってさっきまで一緒にいたんじゃなかったっけ!?分かんないけど、この新しいEDで思い出せるかもね!感情くん
TheBusStop12
I'm glad Mimi was at least there to notice, and she left behind Ari's words
ミミが少なくともそれに気づいてくれて良かったよ。彼女がアリの言葉を残してくれたのもね。普通くん
flamethrower2
They did say that but seeing it is another thing.
せやな、言うてたけど実際見ると別モンやわwww2ちゃん
Carbonated_Static
Yeah, let's do a special ending just to really rub it in. Jokes aside, well set up and foreshadowed through the episode that she wasn't really ready. Mimi's reaction will be the most interesting I think. It really is depressing week in anime isn't it.
ああ、わざわざ特別EDまで付けて、こっちの心臓をギュッと握ってくる感じだよな。冗談はさておき、彼女がまだ本当に覚悟できてなかったって伏線は、今回の話の中でしっかり張られてたと思うんだ。特にミミの反応が一番の見どころになるんじゃないかな。今週のアニメ、全体的に鬱展開続きで心が重いわ。考察くん
Suspicious-Value8260
Seiran really shoud've taken her reaction to her first mission as a sign she wasn't ready. She had a chance and blew it. I'm not mentally prepared for grief-stricken Mimi if we end up getting that.
セイランまじで最初の任務の時の反応で「まだ無理じゃん」って気づくべきだったのに!チャンスあったのに無駄にしちゃったじゃん!もしミミが悲しみに暮れる展開来たらマジで心の準備できてないんだけど!ギャル
SoraVanitus
I think she wasn't even allowed to back out at that point, once enlisted to serve, you serve until you die?
もう後戻りできなかったんだろうな……一度志願したら死ぬまで戦うってことか?重すぎるッ……感情くん
FlaminScribblenaut
原文
Mimi's reaction will be the most interesting I think. I mean, this is going to be Mimi finally understanding , viscerally, what death actually is and entales, now that it's happened to someone she knows; or knew , rather. This is inevitably going to be Mimi learning what Sheena tried to teach her and was discouraged from doing so to keep the school's ace on the battlefield, and it's most certainly gonna rattle basically everything.
ミミの反応が一番気になるな。つまり、これはミミが初めて“死”が実際に何を意味するのか、知ってる人に起きたことで直感的に理解するってことだよね。シーナが教えようとして、戦場のエースを守るために止められたことを、ミミが学ぶことになるんだろうな。それで全部が揺らぎそうだ。普通くん
marshmallow_sunshine
原文
Fran in episode 1 "I've told you at least 200 times, don't talk to the other students." The school was intentionally distancing Mimi from the other students for so long, but she has finally lost someone she was close to. Other deaths before this were just faceless nobodies to her. Mimi now has to grapple with feeling real loss and what this war might bring towards Sheena in the future if she also heads off into battle.
フランep1「200回は言ったやろ、他の生徒と話すな」ってやつな。学校がわざとミミを他の生徒から遠ざけてたんやな。でもついに身近なやつを失ってもうた。前の死はミミにとっては顔も知らんモブやったけどな。これからミミは本当の喪失感と、シーナも戦場に出たらどうなるんかって戦争の現実に向き合わなあかんのや。2ちゃん
Alej_11
Yeah, sadly this was great for mimi character development
うん、残念だけどミミのキャラ成長には良かったんだよね。普通くん
BlazeBloom
We've had minimal Mimi and Seiran interactions up until this episode. The conversations between the two were brief but it feels like Mimi was really starting to connect with Seiran as both have someone special waiting for them home. There's no doubt Seiran's death will have some effect on Mimi.
これまでミミとセイランの絡みは最小限だったけどな。会話は短かったが、ミミはセイランと本当に心を通わせ始めてたんだろう。二人とも家に待ってる大切な人がいるからな。セイランの死がミミに影響を与えるのは間違いないだろうな。ドライおじ
i_know_the_void
I’m wondering if that’s why the elders were pushing Seiran to battle and even to the front lines, so to speak. Yes, she volunteered, but there seemed to be something else going on.
あれが理由で長老連中がセイランを戦場、しかも前線に押し出してたんかもな。確かに本人は志願したけど、なんか裏がありそうやったしな。2ちゃん
Ok_Calligrapher_6797
I doubt about it. Mimi is more useful as a machine. That's why it was Fran idea, and she apparently pushed for it, to have Mimi going in the class with the others
それは疑問だな。ミミは機械としての方が役に立つと思う。だからフランがその案を出したんだろうし、彼女が押し切ってミミを他の子たちと一緒にクラスに入れたんだろうね。普通くん
Suspicious-Value8260
Honestly, Mimi's reaction to Seiran's death is the one I'm interested in the most. Not only because this is the first time Mimi has really lost someone close to her, not counting her mother but we still don't know how many memories Mimi has of her, but also because Mimi was the only one in the group to actually witness her death firsthand.
正直、セイランが死んだ時のミミの反応が一番気になる考察ポイントだな。ミミにとって母親を除けば初めて身近な人を失う経験になるし、そもそもミミが母親についてどれだけの記憶を持ってるのかも不明瞭なのが興味深い。加えて、グループの中で唯一ミミだけがセイランの死を直接目撃してるんだよな。この構図、今後の展開の伏線になってると思われる。考察くん
YuushyaHinmeru
Beyond the pain of losing her friend, I wonder if the guilt of the probably thousands of people she's killed is going to hit her like a tsunami.
友を失った悲しみに加えて、おそらく数千人を殺めてきた罪悪感が津波のように押し寄せるんじゃないかな。普通くん
Suspicious-Value8260
oof, I'm worried our wholesome puppy girl might be about to turn into a kicked puppy. God, it hurts to have lost Seiran like this but I can't help looking forward to how it affects everyone else.
やばくね!?私たちのピュアな子犬系ヒロインが、蹴られた子犬みたいになっちゃうかもって心配なんだけど!まじで青嵐をこんな風に失うの痛すぎるんだけど、これが他のみんなにどう影響するか見るのが楽しみすぎて仕方ないんだよね笑ギャル
extralie
She still doesn't seem to fully comprehend the concept of death, so I wouldn't be surprised if she said something insensitive about it in front of Ari...
彼女はまだ「死」の概念を完全には理解してないみたいだね。だからアリの前で無神経なこと言っちゃっても不思議じゃないな。普通くん
Bikerider42
原文
I can guess a few different ways Mimi might react, and none of them are good. I wonder if she will either actively go against the school, or refuse to fight. If that happens then there is going to be a lot more students dying. Maybe she might start being extremely overprotective of Sheena and turn into a kind of yandere. If she acts out in any way then the other students will probably start being scared of her.
ミミの反応はいくつか予想できるが、どれも良い方向には向かわないな。彼女が積極的に学校に反抗するか、戦闘を拒否するかのどちらかだろう。そうなればさらに多くの生徒が死ぬことになる。あるいは、シーナに対して過保護になりすぎてヤンデレ化する可能性もある。彼女がどんな形であれ異変を見せれば、他の生徒たちは彼女を恐れ始めるだろうな。考察くん
mmcjawa_reborn
Possibly a shit ton of guilt too, since I could see how she might feel that she wasn't there to save/protect her.
多分めちゃくちゃ罪悪感もあるだろうね。彼女の視点からすると、自分がいて守ってあげられなかったって感じるかもしれないし。普通くん
WhoiusBarrel
Honestly Fran's plan was always going to backfire if she thought a mock battle was going to dissuade the higher-ups already using child soldiers to recruit another into their fold. Fuck all the flags were there but THAT scene still was hard to watch, especially Seiran's last words to Mimi, playing a special ED song with her moments with Ari only makes this so much more painful
正直に言うと、フランの計画は最初から裏目に出る運命だったんだよな。模擬戦で、すでに子供兵士を使ってる上層部が新たな戦力を勧誘するのを思い止まると思ってたなら、それは甘すぎる。伏線は全部張られてたけど、あのシーンはやっぱり見てられなかった。特にセイランがミミに遺した言葉はな……アリとの思い出を映しながら特別なED曲が流れる演出が、その痛みをさらに増幅させてる。制作陣の意図が読めるだけに、胸に来るものがあった。考察くん
shad79
playing a special ED song with her moments with Ari only makes this so much more painful It's painful that this special ED is basically the last time we'll see Ari and Seiran together , as nothing is left of Seiran 's body, only Ari 's gift 😢
アリとの思い出映像に合わせて特別ED流すのマジでエグいわ……これが最後にアリとセイランの2人が映る場面とか辛すぎるンゴ😭セイランの身体もう何も残ってないし、アリの形見だけが残ってるってのがもう……😢2ちゃん
Hitman7128
原文
Returning here to this thread 9 hours after watching the episode to survey the reactions, your comment seems to be the general consensus: the death flags were glaring, but it was gut-wrenching to watch. Before last week's episode, I think most comments I saw predicting deaths thought it was going to be Ari and/or Seiran (mostly the former), but they quickly shifted to Seiran following last week's episode.
エピソード見てから9時間経って、このスレに戻って反応をチェックしてるんだけど、君のコメントが総意っぽいね。死亡フラグは明らかだったけど、見てて胸が痛んだ。先週のエピソード前は、アリかセイラン(特に前者)が死ぬって予想が多かった気がするけど、先週の放送後はすぐセイランに変わったよね。普通くん
Zeph-Shoir
It worked great for tension. I knew her death was coming. But I was terrified waiting for it.
緊張感が素晴らしかったでござる。彼女の死は予感しておったが、その時を待つ間、実に恐ろしゅうござった。武士
Wraithfighter
Honestly Fran's plan was always going to backfire if she thought a mock battle was going to dissuade the higher-ups already using child soldiers to recruit another into their fold. Yeah, anyone that's going to the extent of using child soldiers is at the point where they do not give a fuck about throwing one more bit of human shield out in front.
正直、フランが模擬戦で上層部を思い止まらせられると思ってたなら、その計画は最初から裏目に出る運命だったよ。だって、既に子供を兵士として使ってる連中が、もう一人盾を増やすのを躊躇うわけないじゃん。彼らはそこまで来たら、誰を犠牲にしようが気にしてないってことだよ。普通くん
SoraVanitus
原文
Fran was going to show the difference in power and scare but non-lethel -_- Unless she like lost a limp or something, she wasn't going to learn unless it was the very hard way. She did learn her lesson after the first battle but I think it was too late, once enlisted and volunteered she had no chance of backing out. The tragedy of it all was that the doctor was the only one to basically tell Seiren, you're in over your head and honestly had they had seen the state an Immortal like Mimi was in, I think Seiren wouldn't have been so up herself to still volunteer.
フランは力の差を見せつけて脅かすつもりやったんやろ、でも殺しはせんかった -_- 腕がもげるとかでもない限り、本人が痛い目見ないと分からんかったんやろな。最初の戦いで教訓は得たけど、もう遅かったんやと思うわ。入隊して志願した時点で引き返せんかったんやから。悲劇やったのは、医者だけがセイレンに「お前は無茶しとる」って言うてくれたことや。正直、ミミみたいな不死者がどうなったか見せられてたら、セイレンもあんなに自信満々に志願せんかったやろな。2ちゃん
CurveHelix
Let me just bathe in the sunlight in the battlefield like sitting ducks. Surely nothing will go wrong
戦場で日光浴でもしてようかな、まるでカモみたいにな。絶対何も起きないだろ普通くん
JustaBroomstick
The whole time she was on the branch I was begging her not to get comfortable and look around
枝に乗ってる間、ずっと「油断すんな!周り見るな!」って心の中で叫んでたんだけど!笑ギャル
Firebow_2k7
I was genuinely screaming for her to stop smiling. I knew from the moment I saw the first smile as she helped the dude that it was all gonna go downhill
彼女が笑うのをやめるよう、本気で叫びたかったよ。あの男を助けるときに見せた最初の笑顔を見た瞬間から、全部悪い方向に進むって分かってたんだ。普通くん
Cass0wary_399
She wasn’t ready
彼女、全然準備できてなかったんだよ…ッ!それがもう切なすぎる…!感情くん
Grabul
and right after being told to keep her guard up. I was thinking, well this is it. And sure enough it was. Was really hoping all the flags were just bait, but I guess not.
「警戒を怠るな」って言われた直後にこれか…。もうダメだと思ったよ。案の定だったな。フラグ全部フェイクだと思いたかったけど、どうやらそうじゃなかったみたいだね。普通くん
Kagamime1
"I won't lower my guard" she says while lowering her guard
「油断しない」って言いながら普通に油断してるやんwww2ちゃん
Effective-Tour-9912
Honestly was really dumb and completely ruined any impact.
まじでクソすぎて、衝撃が完全に台無しになったわ。感情くん
throwaccountforeason
I think it was hammering home that she wasn't ready and too young to really understand the gravity of war.
あれはガチで「まだ戦争の重みを理解できる年じゃない」って強調してたんやろな。若すぎるわ。2ちゃん
Ikari_21
AS SOON AS SHE JUMPED UP I WAS SCREAMING AT THE SCREEN!!! My favorite girl of course this happens to her fml
彼女が跳び上がった瞬間、画面に向かって叫んでたわ!!!もちろん一番好きな子にこんな展開が来るんだよな、マジ最悪。普通くん
papagator942
I wonder why they don't send these troops out in squads or at least pairs
なんでこの部隊を班とかペアで出撃させへんねんwww2ちゃん
Grabul
原文
Yeah, that part could've been better thought out as far as the writing goes. Supposedly they are having a rough time having enough soldiers in the field and then they throw a total newb into the field with no experienced wingman? I mean we did get a bit of an idea that some of the adults making decisions consider these girls as expendable, but even so it goes against any logic if one were actually trying to win the war.
確かに、あの部分は脚本的にもっと練るべきだったかもね。戦場で兵士が足りないって言ってるのに、経験者のサポートもなしで完全な新人を前線に放り込むのはどうかと思うよ。大人たちがこの子たちを消耗品扱いしてるのは少しわかったけど、それでも戦争に勝つ気があるなら論理的に考えて変だよね。普通くん
fat_microshiller
She had it coming for that lowkey, sucks she’s dead
あの子、あれは自業自得だったよな…でも死んじゃったのはマジで悲しい…しんどい…感情くん
kicksFR
Yeah the flags were obvious but it still hurts. They even gave me some hope when she showed up next to Mimi. That was just cruel.
確かに死亡フラグは見えてたけど、それでも辛いな。ミミの隣に現れた時はちょっと希望持っちゃったよ。あれは酷すぎるだろ。普通くん
Suspicious-Value8260
That last bit was just so cruel. They raised so many death flags this episode, did a fakeout death twice, kept us in constant anxiety, and then when we finally see her death at the end of the episode they make us think she actually survived only to snatch it away from us.
最後の展開はガチで鬼畜やわ…今週の話は死亡フラグ立てまくりで、偽装死亡を2回もやらかして常にハラハラさせられた挙句、最終的に彼女の死を見せて「実は生きてた」と思わせたのに、最後の最後でそれを奪い取るって…ワイ涙出てきたンゴ…2ちゃん
Myrkrvaldyr
Dead on her 2nd battle. Talk about a short lifespan. Her death seems to have affected Mimi. Let's see how it changes her.
2回目の戦闘で即死か。寿命短すぎだろ。彼女の死はミミに影響を与えたみたいだね。これからどう変わるのか見ものだな。普通くん
Suspicious-Value8260
That ending shot of Mimi just staring at the the necklace in shock was absolutely perfect.
ミミがあのネックレスを呆然と見つめるラストカット、完璧すぎるッ!鳥肌立ったわ!感情くん
notabear87
…how did no one else notice how critical she was? The fuck?!?! Fuck you author for making me love her so much. 😭😭😭
…なんで他の誰も彼女がどれだけ重要だったか気づかなかったんだよ。マジで?!?! 作者ふざけんなよ、こんなに彼女を好きにさせやがって。😭😭😭普通くん
chervilious
I think she just got back (that's why she was on the outskirt). Mimi is the one who spotted her first because she is looking for her specifically
ワイ的には彼女は戻ってきたばかりやと思うわ(だから郊外におったんやろな)。ミミが真っ先に見つけたんは、彼女がミミをずっと探してたからやろな。2ちゃん
SoraVanitus
I think so too... she literally limped back, I thought maybe Mimi would heal her or something but yeah, she really did try her best to go home
私もそう思うよ…彼女、本当に足を引きずりながら戻ってきたんだ。ミミが治してくれるかもって思ったけど、やっぱり彼女は本当に家に帰ろうと全力を尽くしたんだね普通くん
mineirim2334
Mimi would have been able, sadly she did not realize the gravity of her wound. Let's see if she will mature after this shock.
ミミならできたはずなのに…!彼女は自分の傷の深刻さに気づかなかったんだよな…悲しすぎる。この衝撃で彼女が成長してくれることを祈るよ…!感情くん
SoraVanitus
I doubt it, Mimi is very typical to what someone would be like if they have been fighting in a war for so long and basically no longer had any humane sense left
それはどうかな。ミミは長い戦争を戦ってきて、人間らしさを失ってしまった人の典型例だと思うよ。普通くん
miichan_v
Mimi knows she's hurt, but not the extent of her injuries. Seiran kept telling her that she was fine and that it doesn't hurt... Which raises a question, why didn't Seiran tell Mimi she was severely injured and that she needed healing ASAP 😢
ミミは自分が傷ついていると認識しているが、その重症度までは把握していない。セイランは「大丈夫だ」「痛くない」と繰り返し伝えていた。ここで疑問が浮かぶ——なぜセイランはミミに重傷であること、そして即座の治療が必要であることを伝えなかったのか😢考察くん
SoraVanitus
Lost too much blood and stuff to think straight
出血しすぎて思考がまともに働かんわ
頭回らんwww2ちゃん
SoraVanitus
Granted, this is a very good writer, death isn't easy to write and when you do write death, it needs to not only be impactful, but have emotional weight and meaning!
確かに、これはすごく上手い作家だと思う。死を描くのは簡単じゃないし、書くならインパクトがあるだけでなく、感情的な重みや意味も必要だよね!普通くん
miichan_v
原文
It's ridiculous how they send their "best" students out into the field when they are clearly under prepared and it's just a matter of time before they get KIA. Imagine how much stronger these talented children could become if they have the time to grow to their fullest potential?? Like where are all the adults? Send them to the battlefield instead... Like are there seriously no trained adult mages outside this institution?
「実力不足の生徒を『エリート』と称して前線に送り込むのは無謀極まりないな。彼らが戦死するのは時間の問題だ。もし十分な成長期間を与えられていたら、どれほど強くなれたのか想像してみてほしい。大人たちは一体どこにいるんだ?代わりに大人を戦場に送るべきだろう。この学院の外に、訓練を積んだ大人の魔術師が本当に一人もいないのか?という疑問が湧く。考察くん
lunatickoala
The moment she stopped being afraid and thought she accomplished something was the moment she let her guard down. And it was also Tomoe Mami's undoing.
恐怖を感じなくなって、自分は何かを成し遂げたと思った瞬間に、警戒心を解いてしまったんだよね。それが巴マミの破滅にも繋がったんだと思う。普通くん
eightcheesepizza
Esther, go away! You're just contributing death flags!
エステル消えてくれ!お前がいるだけで死亡フラグ立っとるやんwww2ちゃん
zairaner
It was actually so cute how she was able to recognize a fellow widow-in-training and was able to comfort her!
彼女が同じ“未亡人見習い”同士だと気づいて慰められたのが、本当に可愛かった!普通くん
froctoso
I love your comment of "widow-in-training", what a doomed Yuri it is.
「widow-in-training」って表現まじで天才すぎるッ! 絶対に報われない百合、しんどすぎて泣ける… でもそこが最高にエモいんだよなぁ!感情くん
Zeph-Shoir
widow-in-training
未亡人育成中って感じじゃん!笑ギャル
Jackfruit_Small
Doomed yuri 😭 wished Seiran could have read the letter first
ドゥームド百合かよ…😭 せめて青嵐が先に手紙を読めてたらなって思うよ普通くん
Suspicious-Value8260
ahh, doomed yuri, truly nothing else comes close to sharing the same love and hatred I have for it. Much like Mimi and Seiran I don't like feeling pain, but at the same time the pain existing proves how lovely the yuri was.
草、ドゥームド百合か。ワイもこれ以上に好きと嫌いが入り混じるもんないわ。ミミとセイランみたいに痛いのは嫌やけど、痛みがあるってことはそれだけ百合が美しかった証拠やろ。2ちゃん
BosuW
You get it twin 😭
わかるよ、同志よ😭普通くん
Tornmacaroon
原文
I kept thinking, maybe it's going to be a spell that shatters when she is about to die and saves her and somehow it's going to be tied into the letter thing. Or maybe when she dies the letter has a spell on it so they can say goodbye to one another or have a pre recorded message type thing. But no. I just got heartbreak. I could feel what was about to happen as soon as she stood on that fucking branch even tho I was in denial the whole episode. I'm such a wreck over this episode.
もう草。ずっと「死ぬ間際に呪文が解けて助かるんやろ」「手紙に呪文仕込んであって最後に会話できるんやろ」って考えてたわ。でも無理やった。ただただ心が砕けたンゴ……あの枝に立った瞬間から察してたけど、最後まで現実逃避してたわ。この回で完全にメンタル崩壊したンゴwww2ちゃん
InternationalLoad891
原文
What's the point of sending out half-trained 14-years old who are clearly not ready for the battlefield? Their 16 and 17 years old are barely holding on. They are blowing through their 15 years old, and now they are wasting their 14 years old (2 KIA already) before training them to be semi-useful. I am more furious than sad that the so-called school is so short-sighted, they just wasted their top student from the 14-years old cohort because those old cronies just don't give a flying f-ck.
14歳の半人前を戦場に送る意味あるの?16歳と17歳もギリギリなのに、15歳はもう使い潰してる。で、14歳も訓練もせずに無駄遣い(もう2人戦死)とかさ。あの学校が近視眼的すぎて悲しいより怒りが湧くわ。古参連中がクソほど無関心だから、14歳のエースまで無駄にしちゃったんだろ。普通くん
eoz
原文
My theory on this is that it's the foreshadowing that the war is being lost, badly. Speculating wildly (I'm anime-only) I'm gonna guess we'll get some plot beats like Sheena getting badly enough that Mimi thinks she's dead, optionally Mimi going berserk until sufficient levels of yuri are applied, and my pet theory, a reveal that whatever the heck Mimi did to her when she lost an arm was a lot more powerful than a simple heal.
私の考察では、これは戦争がかなり不利に進んでいるという伏線だと思われる。アニメしか見てないから大胆な推測になるが、今後シーナが瀕死の重傷を負い、ミミが彼女が死んだと思い込む展開が来るんじゃないか。その際、ミミが暴走して、十分な量の百合要素で落ち着かされる流れも予想できる。そして私の推測の核心は、ミミが片腕を失った時にシーナに施した何かが、単なる回復魔法よりはるかに強力なものだったという真相が明かされる点だ。考察くん
InfernoVulpix
原文
My question is, what the heck kind of war is this? Every day or two, students go into the nearby forest, walking-distance away, to fight enemies, and this just happens consistently forever? Who are these enemies? Is their strategic objective to take the school? Has the front line of the war just been stuck here within walking distance of the school indefinitely? If their goal is to take the school, why do they seem to only ever send raiding parties? Why do they keep coming back again and again despite so many failures? It makes no sense. This doesn't look anything like how an enemy country would try and attack. At this point, my guess is that the war isn't a war at all, but a rebellion. This kind of battle, endless waves of raiding parties without any sense of clear strategy, is a lot easier to make sense of if there's a lot of unrest in the country and ordinary people are rising up against the state in scattered disorganized groups. If that's true, then the school is in the position it's in because, even if it wants to do right by its children, it's subordinate to a tyrannical government willing to send child soldiers out as enforcers of its regime.
なんやこの戦争www 生徒が毎日のように歩いて行ける距離の森で敵と戦っとるんか?敵は誰やねん。学校占領が目的ならなんで小規模な襲撃ばっか繰り返すんや。負け続けても何度も来る意味わからんし、これ戦争ちゃうやろ。ワイの予想やと、これは反乱やろな。国が不安定で、民衆がバラバラに立ち上がってる感じ。そう考えると学校の立場も見えてくるわ。政府に従属しとるから、子供を兵士にせざるを得ないんやろな。2ちゃん
Etiennera
There's definitely a reason the nature of the war isn't being explained. But it's a magical world with magic as powerful as immortality, so it could be pretty unintuitive.
戦争の本質が説明されないのには理由があるんだろうね。でも、不死身レベルの魔法がある世界なんだから、かなり直感的じゃないかもしれないな。普通くん
cascading_error
I shoved it into the "author doesnt actualy know what war is like/ actual war is incompatible with the wanted plot" box Becouse this isnt war, this feels more like waves in a tower defence senario. But orphens need to come from somewhere so clearly the war isnt isolated to the school.
ワイの感想やけど、作者は実際の戦争を知らんか、あるいは戦争描写がプロットの都合に合わへんから「塔防ゲームのウェーブ」みたいにしとるわ。これは戦争ちゃうやろ。ただ、孤児が生まれる以上、戦争は学校だけに留まらんはずやしな。2ちゃん
Zeph-Shoir
It has barely been explored but the lore behind the scenes is one of the things I have been most curious about in the show. Also, I have never seen a twist where it is revealed that "the war isn't a war at all, but a rebellion", kinda dig the idea!
まだほとんど掘り下げられてないけど、舞台裏のロアはこの作品で一番気になってる部分の一つだな。あと「戦争が実は反乱だった」って展開は初めて見たし、結構好きだよ!普通くん
Big-Duck
I feel like it's going to be a classic "wait, we were the bad guys?" twist where they're like some sort of secluded cult holding on to something valuable (forbidden healing magic? hmm). The enemies then would be bands of adventurers looking for profit. The spooky school in the middle of the woods that abducts children and is filled with combat mages just sounds like something out of an RPG, right?
これは古典的な「待って、私たちが悪者だったの?」展開になる気がする。彼らは貴重なもの(禁断の治癒魔法?ふむ)を守る隔絶されたカルト集団ってところか。敵は利益を求める冒険者たちの一団になるんだろうな。森の奥で子供を攫い、戦闘魔導士だらけの不気味な学校って、まさにRPGの設定そのものだと思われるんだが。考察くん
Jacob-C
Too bad this is a vaguepost war so we can't establish defensive perimeters and just have to play paintball in the forest. Someone said this in a post critiquing the episode. I thought it was quite funny.
草、なんか「今回は曖昧ポスト戦争やから防御陣地張れへんし、森でペイントボールやるしかないわ」って書いてるやつおって、ワイ笑ってもうたわwww2ちゃん
lunatickoala
原文
There's the possibility that the big picture isn't thought out and the circumstances are contrived solely for the sake of the story, meaning that the war is just a background excuse for the story. It doesn't make sense, but there've been plenty of war stories where the focus is very much the war that have been written by people who know nothing of war. If it's not just made up nonsense, the thing that it resembles most is a conflict between two rival lords in the medieval period over conflicting claims. Having a school for raising orphans as an elite military unit is vaguely like the Janissaries who would take young boys from conquered territories, cut their family ties, and raise them as elite soldiers.
全体像が考え抜かれてなくて、物語の都合だけで状況が作られてる可能性もあるよね。つまり戦争はただの背景の言い訳ってこと。意味不明だけど、戦争をよく知らない人が書いた戦争モノはたくさんあるしね。でたらめじゃなければ、一番似てるのは中世の領主同士の領地争いかな。孤児をエリート部隊に育てる学校は、征服地の少年を家族から引き離して精鋭兵士にするイェニチェリに似てる気がする。普通くん
extralie
From the way they talked about Mimi not being enough anymore, it sounds less short sighted and more that they can't even hold the line for 2 years for these girls to turn 16 and ready for battle. So, it's pure desperation.
ミミではもう足りないという言い方から察するに、短絡的というよりは、この子たちが16歳になって戦えるようになるまで2年も持ちこたえられないってことだよな。つまり、純粋な desperation だと思われる。考察くん
zairaner
They even called a lot of 15 year olds today along seiran, I don't even remmeber them doing that before.
今日はセイランに沿って15歳の子をたくさん呼んでたみたいだけど、前はそんなことしてなかった気がするな。普通くん
rubslotiononitsskin
原文
Only a matter of time until Sheena's fighting side by side with Mimi, unless she can bust out healing magic. In that case, she might be able to stay away from the frontlines like Fran. It never mattered if you were "weak" or "strong". The fact that they were throwing children into the meat grinder at all proved that the situation is FUBAR and nothing is off limits. The government desperately needs more bodies and they were never gonna stop at the "strong" kids. They are gonna fill in the gaps with all the bodies they can get and if you're a "weak" kid like Sheena, well, at least you'll be a nice meat shield for your comrades before they get slimed 5 seconds later than they thought they would've been.
シーナがミミと並んで戦うのは時間の問題だな。治癒魔法を習得できればフランみたいに前線を離れられるかもしれないが。「強い」「弱い」は関係なかったんだよ。そもそも子供を戦場に送り込んでいる時点で、状況が完全に崩壊していて何もかもが許容範囲外だって証明してる。政府はとにかく人手が足りなくて、「強い」子供だけで止まるはずがない。穴埋めに使える駒は全部使うつもりだ。シーナみたいな「弱い」子は、せいぜい仲間の5秒の延命に貢献する肉壁ってところだな。考察くん
lunatickoala
原文
Historically, calling up people who were formerly deemed too young or too old was very much a sign of desperation. A couple of questions come to mind. First, are they on the defensive or are they the aggressors? Or is it more like medieval warfare between feuding lords with competing claims who agree on a time and place for battle and send forces to fight? There's a difference between the desperation of trying to fend off an invading force and the desperation of not wanting to lose face by losing a war that you started. The number of people they send feels too limited for it to be a desperate defense and only sending people seen as expendable is more characteristic of a war of choice than a war of necessity. Secondly, do the higher ups think they have a war-winning wunderwaffe in Mimi and thus continue the war because of that?
歴史的に見て、若すぎるor年老いた奴らを徴兵するのは完全に追い詰められた証拠やろ。まず気になるのが、彼らは防戦側なんか攻撃側なんかってことや。それとも領地争いしてる中世の領主同士が戦う場所と時間を決めてから兵力送り込むみたいな感じなんか?防衛のために必死なのと、自分から始めた戦争に負けて面目丸つぶれになるのを恐れてるのとでは意味が全然違うやん。送ってる人数見る限り防戦の焦りって感じやないし、使い捨て要員だけ送ってるのは必要性からじゃなくて選択として戦争してる証拠やろ。それに上の連中はミミを戦争に勝てる切り札やと思い込んで戦争続けてる可能性もあるんちゃうか?2ちゃん
throwaccountforeason
are they on the defensive or are they the aggressors? There was that one time an explosion happened outside the school on the hill. So regardless, the fighting is very close and on the school faction's territory.
彼らは防戦側なのか、それとも攻め込んでる側なのか?丘の上の学校の外で爆発が起きたことが一度あったけど、いずれにせよ戦闘はすごく近くで、学校側の縄張りで起きてるんだよね。普通くん
Vanek_26
I'm watching this and going, "Are we the baddies?" I have to wonder how evil/bad the other side (which we've basically had zero info about) really is if "our" side is willing to throw 14 year old girls into the meat grinder.
これ観てて「ワイら悪役側なんか?」って思うンゴwww 他方の連中(ほぼ情報ゼロやけど)がどれだけ悪なんか気になるわ。こっち側が14歳の少女を戦場に放り込むような連中やのに、相手がよっぽど悪なんやろな…草2ちゃん
Thrymster
I think this is one of those cases where learning too much about the politics behind the war would actually take away from the story - our protagonists are child soldiers forced to fight and die in a war they do not understand, trying to justify the actions of the adults with "the other nation is REALLY bad!" would undermine the message imo.
これは戦争の政治的背景を深く知りすぎると、かえって物語の魅力が損なわれるケースだと思う。主人公たちは理解できない戦争に駆り出され、戦って死ぬことを強いられた子供兵士なんだ。「相手国が本当に悪いんだ!」って大人たちの行動を正当化しようとすると、作品のメッセージが台無しになる気がするな。普通くん