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寄付金の集め方
ハッセの工房を稼働させるため、ローゼマインはお茶会で寄付金を集めることに。フェシュピールの演奏会を開くことを思いつき、貴族女性たちのアイドルである神官長・フェルディナンドの出演も取りつけたが...。
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Cill_Bipher
PSA: There will be a break next week due to the My Hero special airing in Bookworm's timeslot.
お知らせだぞw 来週は本好きの枠でヒロアカの特番やるから休みだってよwwwwwおじ+170
cs_cast_away_boi
Darn
ちっ、来週は休載か。まあ仕方ないな。ドライおじ+56
Ebo87
Yes, which I'm okay with, let MHA have its final FINAL episode in this time slot it has occupied for almost a decade (season 1 did not air in this time slot). We still have 20 more Bookworm episodes after this, we are good with a week off (and there might be another week off between cours, first week of July, I imagine).
確かに、MHAがほぼ10年使ってきた枠で最終回をやるなら全然OKだよね。こっちはまだ20話残ってるし、1週空くくらい全然大丈夫。次のクール間でもまた1週空くかもしれないけどね。普通くん+43
mikillatja
It's a double season? Thank god, the only thing I hate about bookworm is that the episode ends.
まあ、ダブルクールってことか。本好きの下剋上で唯一嫌いなのは、エピソードが終わっちゃうことだけだからな。ありがたいよ。ドライおじ+35
Ebo87
Yes, it's two cours. It was confirmed months ago, we just don't officially know the episode count, but word on the street is 24 episodes is what we are looking at. Wish it was 25, but oh well, I can live with 24.
そうそう、2クールだよ。何ヶ月も前に確定してたけど、正式な話数はまだわかってないんだよね。でも噂では24話らしい。個人的には25話欲しかったけど、24話でもまあ我慢できるかな。普通くん+18
Magnafeana
Thank you! Now this makes me curious on how all the time slots are decisioned and negotiated by networks and committees. I don’t think I’ve ever thought about this before, not even for western cartoons outside of Legend of Korra and Steven Universe drama. Time to google!
【返信】 おう、サンキューやで！ てかタイムスロットの決め方ってどうなってるんやろな。ネットワークと委員会の交渉とかワイ今まで全然考えたことなかったわ。海外アニメでもコラ傑とかSUのゴタゴタ以外は気にしてへんかったし。 ググるしかないンゴwww2ちゃん+16
0ldgrumpy1
Nooooo. I want to see her new ride!
うわあああん！次の週まで待てないよお…彼女の新しい乗り物が見たいのに！！無理すぎるッ！感情くん+7
Radi-kale
Lmao, not Ferdinand taking revenge for being strong-armed into giving a concert
ははっ、フェルディナートめ、無理やり演奏会をさせられた仕返しとはなかなか手厳しいでござるな。武士+144
Accurate_Treat6360
Ferdinand only brought those new books to mess with Rozemyne lol (so petty).
フェルディナンド、あの本持ってきたのロゼマをからかうためだけだろｗ（ほんと意地悪だな）普通くん+92
Albireookami
I think Ferdinand is going to learn a lesson when he realizes her revenge
確かに！フェルディナンド、ロゼマインの復讐を思い知ったら絶対に教訓を得るよね笑ギャル+51
cyberscythe
Rozemyne making her own printing shop just so she can make doujin of Ferdinand
せやな、フェルディナンドが自分の同人誌作るために印刷所作ったって知った時の顔が見たいわwww2ちゃん+83
abandoned_idol
I burst out laughing. "That is so like him!" It's so funny how his admirable scheming in earlier arcs stems from his childish jealousy and pettiness.
ふはっ…！まさに奴の常套手段よ。かつては崇高なる陰謀と崇められたその所作が、今や幼き嫉妬と狭量から生まれしものと知れれば、笑いすら湧き出ずるというものだ。中二病+32
PeaceAlien
Well, Myne will get them eventually; unfortunately, she has to have patience.
確かに、マインならそのうち読めるようになるだろうね。でも彼女には忍耐が必要ってのが辛いところだ。普通くん+12
moichispa
Rozemyne, you can't fail us on this
せやな、ロゼマインなら絶対やってくれるって信じてるンゴwww でもここはじっくり待つしかないんやな…ガマンガマン2ちゃん+18
LouisLeGros
>she has to have patience. Ridiculous
「忍耐が必要」とは笑止千万でござるな。まあ、マイン殿ならばいずれ必ず手に入れよう。某もその日を首を長くして待つでござる。武士+7
Golden_Phi
I am impressed at how well that granny was able to strong arm him.
確かに、あの婆さんがフェルディナンドをあそこまで上手く丸め込んだのは見事だよね。普通くん+26
sesaman
She seems to be the only person in this series to hold any real power over him.
それな！このシリーズで彼にマジで影響力持ってるのってあのババアだけじゃね？笑ギャル+14
esuil
And Rozemyne seems to not realize yet that she was assigned to her to keep Rozemyne under control as well.
確かに、ロゼマインは自分が監視役としてつけられてることにまだ気づいてないんだよね。普通くん+14
NekoCatSidhe
She is the closest thing he has to a mother, since she raised him, so of course he will be unable to tell her no.
確かに、彼にとって彼女は実の母親にも等しき存在。幼き日々より彼を育みし者に、抗うことなど叶わぬのだ。我が目には、それが運命の理の如く映る。中二病+8
Nachtwandler_FS
Like she plans to use him to make money from fangirls. He can have his small revenge at least.
確かに！フェルディナンド、ちょっとした仕返しできてよかったじゃん笑 でも領主の養女はファンから金稼ぐために彼使おうとしてるしね〜ギャル+6
feb914
原文
It's funny how Damuel gets brought into everything just because he's disposable. Add on the fact that he's her only noble retainer that knows the truth of her identity, making her able to be herself when he's around and no other noble.    Unfortunately Brigitte got stuck in limbo position by being too valuable to be disposed (politics wise) while not being essential enough that they have to include her.
ダームエルが使い捨て要員だからって何にでも引きずり込まれるの、皮肉だよな。彼女の正体を知る唯一の貴族の従者って立場もあって、彼といるときだけは他の貴族がいない状態で素の自分でいられるってのも含めて考えると、結構重要な立ち位置だと思うんだよね。 一方でブリギッテは、政治的には使い捨てにするには惜しい価値がありつつ、必須とまではいえない宙ぶらりんの立場に甘んじちゃってるのが不運だな。考察くん+115
OldInstruction5368
I hope Myne finds a solution to Birgitte's 'unmarriageable' problem, and in so doing, earns enough trust from Birgitte that she can be added to the inner circle.
確かにダームエルは使い捨て感覚で何にでも巻き込まれてて笑えるな。ビルギッテの「結婚できない」問題をマインがどう解決するのか気になる。うまくいけば信頼を得て、内輪の仲間入りできるかもね。普通くん+56
BeatBlockP
If Brigitte gets married she will leave her position as a retainer, which is partly why she was attractive as an adult retainer for Myne. Her other female knight, Angelica, is in her early teens (even though it might not look like it because of her stunning beauty).
確かに、ビルギッテが結婚すれば護衛騎士を離れる可能性が高い。これはマインが成人した護衛騎士を必要とした理由の一つでもある。もう一人の女性騎士アンゲリカは十代前半（その美貌からは想像しにくいが）。つまり、ビルギッテの結婚問題は単なる個人的事情ではなく、マインの護衛編成全体のバランスに関わる伏線だと思われる。考察くん+38
OldInstruction5368
An engagement, at least. One where the marriage isn't rushed but set a year out or some such.
婚約ってことだよね。少なくとも急いで結婚するんじゃなくて、1年後とか先に設定する的な。それなら彼女もそのまま仕えられるしな。感情くん+10
UMP45isnotflat
I felt like the easiest solution would be to get Birgitte married into her family but thats not really an option here. Curious where that goes.
確かに、ビルギッテを身内に嫁がせるのが一番簡単そうだけど、この世界じゃ難しいよね。今後どうなるのか気になる。普通くん+20
SmartAlec105
Her family (Karstedt and his sons) is made of archnobles and Brigette is a mednoble. That kind of barrier isn't impossible since Rozemary was a mednoble that married up to become an archnoble but you need a lot of mana for that.
せやな、ビルギッテの家は中級貴族やし、カルステッド家は上級貴族やからな。ローズマリーみたいに身分違いの結婚も不可能やないけど、大量の魔力が必要ってのがネックやわ。2ちゃん+36
drunkenvalley
原文
I think this is essentially boiling down to security clearance logic. A coworker of mine 10 years ago wanted to work within arms manufacturing, but to be able to take a job there he had to get security clearance. He couldn't get security clearance because he is married to a persian woman with family still living in Iran, and the *hypothetical* that this could place leverage on him in roundabout circumstances was enough to fail their standard. And I think that's essentially the logic here too. The fault is not inherently with Brigitte directly, but it's established how much power family has over their children. What if she's pressured outright to give up secrets by her family? Maybe she wouldn't. But it creates more complications **for Brigette** to have access to secret information, so it's easier to never have it in the first place.
確かに、これはセキュリティクリアランスの話と同じだね。10年前の同僚が兵器製造の仕事を希望したんだけど、イランに家族がいるペルシャ人の妻と結婚してたせいでクリアランスが下りなかったんだ。仮に圧力がかかる可能性があるってだけで基準に引っかかるんだよ。 ブリジットの場合も同じで、本人に非はないけど家族の影響力を考えると、もし秘密を家族に漏らすよう強要されたら？って話だよね。本人は拒否するかもしれないけど、彼女に機密情報へのアクセスを与えると複雑な問題が起きるから、最初から与えない方が簡単ってこと。普通くん+7
Radi-kale
Wouldn´t she just leave her service if she marries?
確かに！結婚したらもうメインの護衛は無理じゃね？まあでもマイネならなんとかしてくれそうだよね〜ギャル+5
EXusiai99
Yes, but assuming she can make a name out of herself during her service then she would have less problems restoring her honor once she's out.
せやな、でも奉公中に名を上げられれば、辞めた後の名誉回復が楽になるって話やろ。2ちゃん+5
cyberscythe
> Add on the fact that he's her only noble retainer that knows the truth of her identity does he know about the other world? I thought that was info that only Ferdinand and Lutz know (Ferdinand because of his mind-reading magic, and Lutz because she told him about it)
確かに、ダームエルは彼女の正体の真実を知る唯一の貴族の側近ってのがポイントだよね。でも異世界のことは知ってるのかな？俺はそれがフェルディナンド（心読む魔法を使うから）とルッツ（彼女が直接話したから）だけの情報だと思ってたんだけど。普通くん+11
feb914
No he doesn't, but he knows about her commoner background and that matters more for sake of how she behaves with commoners.   There's so many layers to her secrets that people who think they know of her secret actually only know one layer.
確かに彼は他のことは知らない。しかし彼女の平民出身の背景を知っているという点が、平民との接し方においてより重要だ。彼女の秘密には本当に幾層もの深みがあって、自分は彼女の秘密を知っていると思っている人々も、実際には一層しか見えていないという考察ができる。考察くん+39
MagikalSamantha
Well, except for ferdinand and lutz right.
そうだね、フェルディナンドとルッツは例外って感じだな。普通くん+5
mythriz
> It's funny how Damuel gets brought into everything just because he's disposable. "it's easier to *deal with him* if he leaks info" Myne with her unintentional threats within his earshot lol
それな！ダームエルが使い捨て扱いされてるの笑えるんだけどｗ 「情報漏らしても対処しやすいから」って、マイネが彼の聞こえる範囲で無自覚に脅し入れてるのヤバすぎるッ！感情くん+6
ObvsThrowaway5120
I’m looking forward to Myne introducing idol culture to the people lol. All this work to essentially get prints of Ferdinand’s face everywhere for thirsty ass noblewomen. Myne’s gonna be raking it in!
ミーネがアイドル文化を領地に持ち込むのが楽しみすぎるw 結局フェルディナンドの顔を刷りまくって貴族の奥様たちに売るってことだろwww ミーネ大儲けじゃん笑wwwおじ+78
Ebo87
Oh yeah, idol concert WITH merch, easy win for our little book gremlin. Ladies there will go crazy!
せやな！グッズ付きアイドルコンサートとか草。ワイらの本の虫ちゃんの完全勝利やろwww 令嬢たちも狂うでガチで2ちゃん+55
bondsmatthew
Dibs on a wallscroll Do people even do wallscrolls anymore? I haven't bought merch outside of t-shirts in probably 15 years
壁掛けスクロールは俺が買うってことで！ っていうか、今どき壁掛けスクロールってまだ売ってるの？多分15年くらいTシャツ以外のグッズ買ってないわ。普通くん+11
diacewrb
She can modify the printing press to print on t-shirt and other items.
確かに！壁掛けスクロールって今でもあるのかな？でも彼女なら印刷機改造してTシャツとか他のグッズも作れそうだよねッ！感情くん+9
Ebo87
I have to imagine you can still find those in Japan at least, at pop-up shops.
確かに壁掛けタペストリーってまだあるのかな。少なくとも日本のポップアップショップでは見つけられると思うよ。普通くん+6
TheBusStop12
Ferdinand embroidered body pillows would sell like hotcakes
せやな、フェルディナンドの抱き枕とか即完売やろ草 アイドルコンサートにグッズ付きとかワイの小さい本好きちゃんには余裕の勝利やん 奥様方が狂うわwww2ちゃん+6
Ebo87
Oh man, that's a good idea, but I feel like if Ferdinand found out about those he would just fuck off into the woods, somewhere, never to be found again.
確かにそれはいいアイデアだけど、フェルディナンドが知ったら森のどこかに消えて二度と戻ってこなさそうだな。普通くん+9
cyberscythe
yet again i've been tricked into watching an idol show
それな！まじでまたアイドルアニメに騙されたんだけど笑ギャル+38
abandoned_idol
Thirsty noblewomen have incredibly good taste. I never thought I'd get to indulge in Ferdinand's idol debut. I say this as a straight male (heh).
確かに。飢えた貴族の女性たちの審美眼はさすがだね。 まさかフェルディナンドのアイドルデビューを見られるとは思わなかったよ。俺はストレートの男だけどな（笑）。普通くん+17
Atharaphelun
Just his face though? Myne could take it a step further...
同意！でもフェルディの顔だけじゃなくて、マイネはもっと進化させそう…アイドル文化を本格的に布教しそうで笑うｗ フェルディのブロマイドとか出したら絶対売れるし、領民みんなで推したくなるやつ！感情くん+11
ObvsThrowaway5120
Those ladies aren’t ready for that lol.
あのご婦人たちにはまだ早すぎるわなｗ普通くん+13
Atharaphelun
His hands are *big* for a reason, and it's not just because he plays a harspiel...
確かに！あの手のデカさやばくない！？ハープだけの理由じゃないよね笑ギャル+6
BosuW
Imagine hooking the kind of devotion idol fans irl have but if they were all rich We gonna be swimming in cash
アイドルオタクみたいな熱狂を現実で起こすとしたら、しかも全員金持ちならヤバそうだな。 金がめっちゃ入ってきそうだね。普通くん+7
kie-chan
Well, copyrights are not a thing in this world yet lol
それな！笑 この世界にまだ著作権ないから、フェルディのブロマイド作り放題じゃん！ギャル+6
shad79
原文
Definitely the best episode so far, mainly thanks to the focus on Rozemyne ​​and Ferdinand's relationship. I definitely can't wait to see the art with Ferdinand she'll be selling at the concert as revenge for not having a chance to read those books. Elvira's obsession with Ferdinand is so funny. Her shocked reaction when it seemed Rozemyne's negotiations with Ferdinand for the concert fell through made me laugh out loud. The post-credits scene with her was hilarious too 😆 I also love how quickly Benno changed his mind about giving Lutz to Myne when he saw how much money she was going to give him, hahaha. Here my screenshot albums from the episode: * Rozemyne * Ferdinand * Group scenes * Elvira & Others *EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.*
現時点で最も完成度の高いエピソードだったな。特にローゼマインとフェルディナンドの関係性に焦点が当てられたのが大きい。本を読む機会を奪われた復讐として、コンサートで売るフェルディナンドの絵は絶対に見逃せない。 エルヴィーラのフェルディナンドへの執着は笑える。ローゼマインとフェルディナンドのコンサート交渉が決裂しそうになった時の彼女の衝撃的な反応は声を出して笑った。ポストクレジットシーンも最高だった😆 ベンノがルッツをマイネに譲るのを、どれだけ金をくれるかで即座に翻したのも好きだww 以下、スクリーンショットアルバム： - ローゼマイン - フェルディナンド - グループシーン - エルヴィーラ＆その他 ※編集：スクリーンショットアルバム追加済み考察くん+59
feb914
>I also love how quickly Benno changed his mind about giving Lutz to Myne when he saw how much money she was going to give him, hahaha     Idk if what she's giving is the money collected in tea parties so far, or projected revenue from the concert. The latter will be a lot more.
ベンノがミュリンのためにルッツを譲るって決めたの、金の額見てすぐ態度変えたの笑えるよねww あの金が今までの茶会で集めた分なのか、コンサートの収入見込みなのかは分かんないけど。後者ならもっとすごい額になるはず。普通くん+22
Golden_Phi
> I also love how quickly Benno changed his mind about giving Lutz to Myne when he saw how much money she was going to give him, hahaha. It felt like Lutz was being sold off to Myne there, lol.
それな！ベンノが金見て即座にルッツをマインに譲る決断したの笑えるｗ 完全にルッツ売られた感あるだろｗｗ感情くん+18
shad79
Well, that's pretty much what happened here, hahaha. More specifically, given that the deal is only for one month, Benno *lent* Lutz to Rozemyne, not *sold* him.
せやな、まんまやなwww 具体的に言うと、契約は1ヶ月だけやし、ベンノはルッツをロゼマインに「貸した」だけや。「売った」わけやないンゴ。2ちゃん+15
Golden_Phi
> Benno *lent* Lutz to Rozemyne Benno *rented* Lutz out to Rozemyne lol
ベンノがルッツをロゼマインに「貸した」のか「レンタルした」のかって話かｗ 確かに言い方で印象変わるよね。普通くん+17
SirArthurDaynk
原文
I feel like I'm being cucked this episode lmao. You want to see what kind of crazy spells are in these books? Too bad haha. You want to see what kind of amazing magic beast Rozemyne can summon with her crazy mana? Sucks to be you hahaha. Great episode though, excited to Rozemyne advance technology once again with printing and fundraising. One step closer to the printing press which is one of the greatest inventions in history.
草ァ！ワイも今回の話で完全に焦らされてる感覚やわｗｗｗ 「本にどんなヤバい魔法が載ってるか見たい？」→残念！ 「ロゼマインの魔力でどんな魔獣召喚できるの？」→知らんがな！ って感じで草生えるわ。でも良エピソードやったな。印刷＆資金集めでまたロゼマインが技術革新起こすの楽しみや。印刷機は人類史最大の発明の一つやし、一歩近づいたンゴね。2ちゃん+58
Golden_Phi
It feels like a set up episode. Like they also started a conflict with her adoptive brother, but it doesn't go anywhere yet. Hopefully the poor girl can get to her books soon.
確かに今回のエピソードは伏線回収の準備って感じだったね。養子の兄との衝突も始まったけど、まだ本題には入ってない感じ。 早く彼女が本に辿り着けるといいな。普通くん+26
maior_novoreg
Magic has never been the focus of the series up to this point, but I feel you. Mostly cause children aren't supposed to learn magic until royal academy at the age of 10.
せやな、魔法がメインじゃないのは分かってるけど気持ちは分かるわ。子供は10歳で王立学院行くまで魔法学べないっていう設定やしな。2ちゃん+21
SirArthurDaynk
Oh!? We getting a academy arc...? That would be awesome. Unless there's a time skip that feels far away though.
おっ！？学園編くるのか…？それは最高だな。ただタイムスキップで遠い先の話になっちゃうとちょっと寂しいけどね。普通くん+11
maior_novoreg
Rozemyne is 7 yo in noble society now, the kids go to royal academy to learn magic at the age of 10. Ferdinand kept bringing it up back in season 3. Not happening in S4 as there is quite a lot of time before she turns 10. Bookworm royal academy is peak fantasy though.
確かに。ロゼマインは貴族社会で7歳、王立魔法学院に入学できるのは10歳からだ。フェルディナンドが3期で何度もその話を出してたもんな。4期で学院編は無いだろう、彼女が10歳になるまでまだ時間がある。ただ本好きの学院編はファンタジーの最高峰と言える。考察くん+15
Straight_Dress42
There could be an academy arc? There have been offhand comments by characters about it, and students going at age 10, but Rozemyne is what 7-ish now?
やばくね！？学園編くるの！？キャラたちがチラッと言ってたし10歳で入学って話もあるけど、ロゼマイン今7歳くらいじゃん？まだまだ先だよね笑ギャル+5
alconnow
Idol Ferdinand... Elvira in fangirl mode
アイドル・フェルディナンド…！エルヴィラがオタクモードになってるの最高すぎるッ！感情くん+50
moichispa
Fans creating stuff that will never happen irl is a tale old as time, not like I would complain. Let's see what Illustration does our little bookworm releases
フェルディナンド推しのエルヴィラ可愛すぎるんだが。実現しないif妄想をファンが作るのは昔からある話だし、別に文句はないけどね。うちの小さな本の虫がどんなイラストを公開するのか楽しみだわ。普通くん+19
UMP45isnotflat
Im always impressed by how in depth the printing processes are described in this anime. I knew the basics, but the wax inking was entirely new to me. Also, poor Damuel has been told he is easiest to get rid off.
このアニメ、印刷工程の描写がとにかく細かいんだよな。基本は知ってたけど、蝋を使ったインキングの工程は完全に新しい知識だった。 それと、ダームエルが「一番切り捨てやすい」って言われてて可哀想すぎる。この描写、彼の立場の不安定さを象徴してる伏線だと思われる。考察くん+47
panther1313
>Also, poor Damuel has been told he is easiest to get rid off. It's supposed to be that he's easier to blackmail. Myne threatening to "get rid" of someone close to her is completely out of character.
確かに。ダミュエルは一番手放しやすいって言われてたけど、実際は脅しやすいってことだよね。マインがああいう「身内を始末する」みたいな脅し方するのは完全にキャラじゃないと思うわ。普通くん+28
Golden_Phi
With how brutal noble society seems, it would make sense as a threat too. Especially how Ferdi just casually killed off one of his attendants off screen. I don't think she actually means it. It's just an excuse because she genuinely does put Damuel above her in terms of trust, but doesn't want Bridgette to be upset at not being trusted. I think that might be her intentions.
貴族社会ガチでエグいから、脅しとしても成立するよな。特にフェルディが側近を画面外でサクッと始末したの見るとマジで草。 本人は本気じゃないと思うわ。単にダームエルを一番信頼してるってバレたくないから、ブリギッテに気使ってるだけやろ。そういう意図やと思うンゴwww2ちゃん+42
iKatheryne
原文
Sadly, that threat is all too real for Damuel and he is well aware of this fact. Even if Rozemyne didn't mean it doesn't mean her family will. Her family was the one that chose her retinue, after all. Laynobles never usually serve a member of the Archducal family but somehow Damuel made it in. He knows too much but he still has many uses for them to execute him outright. He'll be fine but the moment he desires to leave Rozemyne's service is the day we will never see him again.
確かに、ダームエルにとってその脅しは現実味がありすぎるよね。ロゼマインに悪意がなくても、彼女の家族がそうとは限らない。何せ彼女の側近を選んだのは家族なわけだし。 - アーレンスバッハの貴族が公爵家の一員に仕えるのは異例で、ダームエルは特別枠で入った - 知りすぎているけど、まだ利用価値があるから即処刑はない - ロゼマインの元を離れようとした瞬間、二度と会えなくなるだろうな普通くん+25
i_reddit_too_mcuh
原文
> I don't think she actually means it. It's just an excuse because she genuinely does put Damuel above her in terms of trust, but doesn't want Bridgette to be upset at not being trusted. I think that might be her intentions. I agree with this. Doesn't Damuel know Rozamyne = Myne? The simplest explanation for Rozamyne's out-of-character behavior is as you said, that Rozamyne trusts Damuel more and simply needed an explanation that Bridgette can accept. And let's be real here, there's no way Damuel will betray the Archduke's unless he has a death wish and it doesn't take a threat for Damuel to know that.
同意。ダームエルはローゼマイン＝マインだと知っているはずだ。彼女のキャラクターに反した行動の最もシンプルな説明は、君の言う通り、ローゼマインがダームエルをより信頼していて、ブリギッテが納得できる説明を必要としただけだということだ。そして現実的に考えれば、ダームエルが自殺願望でもない限り領主一族を裏切るはずがなく、脅しをかけなくても彼はそれを理解している。考察くん+6
H-K_47
Yeah "deal with" as in literally deal with, not "dispose of".
確かに「片付ける」って文字通り対処するって意味で、排除するって意味じゃないんだよね。普通くん+7
didhe
"Dispose of" *also* has the literal meaning of putting something in an appropriate place, it's just that we're most used to the euphemism where the appropriate place is the trash.
「処分する」って文字通りの意味もあるんだよな……ゴミ箱に捨てるって比喩が一般的すぎて忘れがちだけどッ！感情くん+17
Golden_Phi
> Im always impressed by how in depth the printing processes are described in this anime. I really appreciate the visuals, because I was not able to understand it at all from just words from a book.
確かに。本で読むだけじゃ全然イメージできなかったけど、アニメの映像でやっと理解できたわ。普通くん+29
UMP45isnotflat
ironic, isnt it? Since she wants to use this technique to print visuals
確かに皮肉すぎるッ！だって彼女、この技術で絵を印刷したいんだもんな…しんどい。感情くん+6
feb914
Damuel lives in borrowed time, as normal nobles would have had him executed after the Trombe Hunt.
確かに。ダームエルはトロンベ狩りの後で普通の貴族なら処刑されてたもんな。普通くん+16
BosuW
Myne had to plea to be lenient on him didn't she?
それな！マインが頼み込んで許してもらったんだよね笑 てか普通の領主だったら即処刑だよな…まじやばい世界観じゃん！ギャル+12
feb914
Yes. Without that plea, his life was forfeit.
そうだね。彼女が頼まなかったら、彼の命はなかったよ。普通くん+15
NekoCatSidhe
Damuel has no choice but to be utterly loyal to Rozemyne, because he already knows all her secrets (her being a commoner being the biggest). If he ever decides to oppose her, he is dead. But he literally took a magic bullet for her in the fight last season with Count Bindewald, so I doubt he will ever do that.
ダメルはローゼマインの秘密（平民出身とか）全部知っちゃってるから、忠誠心しか選べないよな。もし逆らったら即死もあり得るけど、前シーズンのビンデバルト戦で文字通り魔法の弾を身代わりに受けてるし、裏切ることは絶対ないやろ。ガチで忠犬やんwww2ちゃん+8
Zeebie_
It seems that they are still struggling with noble sections; they just feel strange and like they skipped her fainting, which was weird. Poor Ferdinand being slandered for his good will of letting her meet lutz
確かに貴族パートはまだぎこちない感じがするね。気絶シーン飛ばしたのも変だったし。 フェルディナンドがルッツとの面会を許可した善意が逆に悪く言われてて可哀想だわ。普通くん+41
azopeFR
to be fair the story have a lot of myne fainting , and it all the same so i suppose it save a lot of time to do other stuff.
確かに、マイネの失神シーン多すぎるし毎回同じだからね……その分他の話に時間使えるのは納得。感情くん+49
Zeebie_
Fainting as a noble is different to fainting as a commoner. You can't say "you have to be perfect" as a noble and not once show the reaction to her fainting in front of nobles. or her sitting there going "ho ho ho" isn't very noble of her. I think they are struggling with her outward noble appearance and her internal monologue being so different.
確かに。貴族としての失神と平民としての失神は別物だよね。「貴族として完璧であれ」って言ってるのに、貴族の前で倒れた時の反応を一度も見せないのはおかしいし。 「ほっほっほ」ってやってるのも貴族らしくないし。外見の貴族らしさと内心のモノローグのギャップに苦労してるんだと思う。普通くん+16
akaelpkm
Which could be solved with chibis doing the internal monologue reaction and a stone-faced noble appearance, but yeah... we have something, let’s consider ourselves lucky.
確かに！貴族の外面と内心をちびキャラで描くの、それで解決できるのにね…。でもまあ今のでも十分あるし、ラッキーだと思おうよ！感情くん+14
UMP45isnotflat
to be fair noble ladies fainting is like *the* trope. Corsets are to thank for that.
せやな、貴族の令嬢が気絶するってのはまさにテンプレやん。コルセットのせいで草2ちゃん+11
abandoned_idol
"Ijiwaru dakara na" (Because I'm a bully after all)
確かに、貴族街の描写がなんか飛ばされた感じがして変だったよね。「意地悪だからな」ってセリフは良かったけど。普通くん+6
Golden_Phi
She shouldn't've said that the previous episode.
「だから言わんこっちゃない…！」って感じすぎるッ。前回のあのセリフがもうフラグすぎたんだよな…しんどい。感情くん+5
Fermi_Amarti
Did she ever figure out what her step brother was upset about?
あの義兄が何に怒ってたのか、結局わかったんか？ワイ気になってしゃーないンゴwww2ちゃん+6
Zeebie_
not yet. They did skip a bit there, but I hope it will be explained later. Poor Wilfried seems to be getting a villain edit.
まだ気づいてないね。あそこはちょっと飛ばされたけど、後で説明されるといいな。ウィルフリード、悪役っぽく編集されててかわいそうだよ。普通くん+5
irridian1
Wow. A bookworm episode that was not rushed! Hopefully they now settle on this pacing from now on. Overall I think this was the best episode of Season 4 so far.
やばくない！？本好きの下剋上、今回は全然急かされてなかったじゃん！このペースで続いてほしいわ～。てか今期4話の中でこれが一番良かったってマジで思う！ギャル+38
Charming-Loquat3702
Well, slightly rushed. But now we get to the juicy part ot p3v1, so it's important to slow down a little bit
確かに少し駆け足だったけど、これからは本編の面白いパート（p3v1）に入るから、少しペース落としてほしいよね。普通くん+34
BeatBlockP
There's just so much to adapt, the number of volumes alone is large, I understand why they skimmed over all the intro stuff to get to actual plot and printing educational videos. I liked it when the bookworm was all like "It's bookwormin time!"
確かに、原作のボリュームを考えると導入部分を端折って本筋や教育ビデオ的な印刷シーンに辿り着こうとした制作側の意図は理解できる。あの「本好きの時間だぜ！」的なセリフ、まさにキャラの本質を象徴する伏線的な瞬間だったと思う。考察くん+12
Charming-Loquat3702
I understand why this happend. Thaz doesn't change that I want an adaption, that shows every meeting, every book she reads, every single noble greeting
確かに。理由は分かるんだけど、それでもやっぱり会議シーンも読んだ本も貴族の挨拶も全部見たいって思っちゃうよね。普通くん+9
darthvall
原文
I'm still unsure of the pacing, though not sure if it follows the source material or not. Like for this episode, we have the tantrum of Sylvester son but it was really a short scene. This and no aftermath for bloody Maine scene feels like they're building for something with that boy. What bothers me about the pacing is that they're showing us these only in short scene and then immediately move on to other topic. But let's see, so far I still enjoy this season anyway.
確かにペーシングについては議論の余地があるな。今回のエピソードでは、ジルヴェスターの息子の癇癪シーンが短く処理されていた点が気になる。あの場面や、流血したマインのその後を描かない構成は、あの少年に関する何かの伏線を張っている可能性が高いと思われる。 ただ、気になるのはああした重要なシーンを短く見せてすぐ別の話題に移る点だ。これが原作準拠なのかどうかは判断が難しいところだが、今期はまだ楽しめているので今後に期待したい。考察くん+13
BeatBlockP
原文
> Like for this episode, we have the tantrum of Sylvester son but it was really a short scene. One thing you have to consider is that the LNs are written in a POV format. So unlike a novel where you have an all-knowing narrator, here if someone is acting irrationally (according to Myne... an unreliable narrator...) their actions will just come out as bizarre. The reason Ferdinand scenes work so well is partially because Myne grew up with him for years and can read his every small gesture, and also trace his general way of thinking. So she anticipates him getting some revenge on her and actively tries to know when it happened. She KNOWS he's reclusive and has absolutely no wish to participate in the show so strong arming him will get him pissed, new song and recipe or not. With Wilfried who she basically only meets during big family dinners, she has no way to glean into his mind. It's made worse by the fact he is in fact 8-9 years old (our years, 7 years old in theirs), so his thought process is even more of a mystery to the previously adult Uruano-Myne.
確かに。原作の一人称視点形式を考えないとね。今回のウィルフリートの癇癪シーンも短かったけど、マインから見たら理解不能な行動ってのは納得。フェルディナンドは長年一緒に育ったから微細な仕草まで読めるけど、ウィルフリートは家族の集まりでしか会わないからな。それに彼が実際8〜9歳（向こうでは7歳）だから、前世が大人のマインには思考が謎すぎるってのもある。普通くん+16
irridian1
Concerning the Wilfried scene(s): May I invite you to my post in the source-material corner:
あーわかる！ウィルフリッドのシーンね！私も原作勢なんだけど、その辺の話ソースマテリアルコーナーに投稿したから見てみてよ！やばくない？あのシーン結構大事なんだよね！ギャル+7
LeonKevlar
原文
Turning Ferdinand into an idol has got to be one of Myne's funniest ideas. I can't wait to see how he'd react to his face being plastered everywhere, especially after bullying Myne by withholding books from her. 😆 I'm sorry, Ferdinand, but why the fuck are you blowing up at Myne, when you haven't even fully explained to her what the Feystone does? She didn't even know it would react like that when you started giving her instructions. Okay, so what's up with this show not resolving any scenes between Myne and Wilfried? Like, I can understand the one at the end of Episode 1 since they can go back to it, but the fact that Wilfried goes on to have a tantrum, then we just hard cut to Myne doing paperwork, wishing she had a diptych was an odd transition.
フェルディナンドをアイドルにするなんて、マインのアイデアの中でも一番面白いやつだな。あちこちに自分の顔が貼られるのを見て、どんな反応するのか楽しみで仕方ない。特に本を隠してマインをいじめてた後だしな😆 悪いけどフェルディナンド、なんでマインにキレてるんだよ。そもそもフェystoneの説明すらちゃんとしてないじゃん。指示出し始めた時、マインはそんな反応が起きるって知らなかったんだぞ。 それに、このアニメってマインとヴィルフリートのシーンを全然解決しないんだな。第1話のラストは後で戻れるから理解できるけど、ヴィルフリートが癇癪起こした後、いきなりマインが書類仕事しながら二連板が欲しいって願ってる場面にカットするのは変な繋ぎだった。普通くん+28
OldInstruction5368
原文
> I'm sorry, Ferdinand, but why the fuck are you blowing up at Myne, when you haven't even fully explained to her what the Feystone does? She didn't even know it would react like that when you started giving her instructions. My understanding, is that a large part of the 'problem' is just Myne's monstrously high magically aptitude. She needed only seconds to 'dye' her feystone, which seemed to surprise Ferdinand. That and the huge display when she blesses an entire large room at once: this always shocks everyone in attendance. So, normally it would be next-to-impossible to 'pop' a feystone, much like Ferdinand thought it was outright impossible to 'fix' one. It's just Myne Magic too Stronk. Something that should have only been possible if you were actively going out of your way to do it, became something she could accidentally do without even trying. TL:DR Ferdinand hadn't fully processed how stronk Myne is and then adapted his training style to match.
フェルディナートが怒るのはお門違いだと思うんだよな。フェイストーンの機能をちゃんと説明してないのに、マインが知る由もないだろ。彼女は指示を始めた時点で、あんな反応が起きるとは知らなかったわけだ。 俺の考察だと、問題の大部分は単にマインの魔力適性が桁違いに高いってことだと思う。彼女は数秒でフェイストーンを「染め」終えてて、それにフェルディナートは驚いてたっぽい。 あと、広間全体を一気に祝福するあの大掛かりな演出もな。毎回出席者全員が衝撃を受けてる。 つまり、通常ならフェイストーンを「割る」のはほぼ不可能で、フェルディナートが「直す」のも不可能だと思ってたのと同じ理屈だ。ただマインの魔力が強すぎるだけ。わざわざ意図してやらないと不可能なはずのことが、彼女は無意識にやってしまう。 要約すると、フェルディナートはマインの強さを完全に理解しきれてなくて、それに合わせて指導法を調整すべきだったってことだ。考察くん+21
ProbablyNotTheCocoa
原文
Its less that he doesnt understand her strength, more that he fundamentally does not understand her train pf thought. A noble would never think of a feystone like clay and a balloon, clay is dirty peasant material that they would never spare a thought for and balloons are not even a concept they can grasp since they aren’t invented yet. To them a feystone is just that, a feystone, nothing less, nothing more so her wild imagination is not an issue for a purebred noble or a temple raised priest
確かに、彼がミーネの強さを理解してないっていうより、根本的に彼女の思考回路が理解できないんだよね。貴族からしたらフェイストーンを粘土や風船みたいに考えるなんてありえないし、そもそも粘土は農民が使う汚い素材だし、風船なんて概念すらないわけで。純粋な貴族や神殿育ちの司祭には、彼女のぶっ飛んだ想像力は理解不能ってことだな。普通くん+30
Asleep-Doubt5673
原文
Blowing up the stone doesn't have anything to do with the amount of mana Rozemyne has, but with her imagination; she imagined it popping like a balloon, so it did. Maybe Ferdinand should have warned her beforehand, but he didn't think she would imagine that and, in his defense, he did explain that she was making it bigger by imagining it growing, so it was implicit that her imagination had an effect 🤷🏾‍♀️
せやな、石を爆発させたのは魔力の量の問題じゃなくて想像力の問題やろ。ロゼマインが風船みたいに割れるって想像したからそうなったんや。フェルディナンドが事前に警告すべきやったかもしれんけど、まさかそんな想像するとは思わなかったンゴ。本人の言い分としては、想像で大きくしてるって説明してたんやから、想像力が影響するのは暗黙の了解やろ🤷🏾‍♀️2ちゃん+23
OldInstruction5368
原文
My point is that it may well be a combination of the two. For 'normal' practitioners, they would have to concentrate much harder on forcing the feystone to explode. But Myne is so stronk, that even a stray thought becomes dangerous. She has so much raw power that the impossible becomes trivial. Such as when she just repaired the feystone like it was nothing. Ferdinand just warned her that "imagination is power," so she *imagined* the feystone as clay to be molded. And it worked. Something he didn't even think was possible, and she just up and does it instantly, on her first try, without following any specific steps. She just willed what she wanted into existence. Myne stronk.
確かに、その二つの組み合わせかもしれないね。普通の術者なら石を爆発させるのにすごく集中しないといけないけど、マインはパワーが強すぎてうっかり考えただけでも危険になる。生の魔力が桁違いで、不可能が簡単になっちゃうんだよ。例えば、あの石を何でもないように直したシーンとかさ。フェルディナンドが「想像力が力だ」って警告したから、彼女は石を粘土みたいに想像しただけで成功した。彼が不可能だと思ったことを、初回で何の手順もなく一発でやっちゃうんだ。マイン、強すぎ。普通くん+12
Zaradas
Depending on the person, warning can also have the opposite effect. "Don't think about pink elephants."
確かに！人によっては逆効果だよね。 「ピンクのゾウのこと考えちゃダメ」って言われたら余計に浮かんじゃうじゃん？笑ギャル+11
UMP45isnotflat
the point is that anyone else would likely have to imagine it for a very long time, not just casually and it instantly happens
確かに。要は他の人がやったらすごい時間かけて想像しないといけないってことだよね。ロゼマインはそれを軽く一瞬でやっちゃうのがやばい。普通くん+8
SmartAlec105
You need imagination and mana to accomplish things. A laynoble couldn't channel enough mana to make it burst that quickly even if they were imagining the same thing.
せやな。想像力と魔力の両方が必要ってわけや。同じ想像しても下級貴族じゃあんな速さで石を破裂させるだけの魔力は流せんわな。ワイも同意やで。2ちゃん+8
feb914
Wilfred used to be centre of attention as he's the oldest son and already designated as heir. But now he sees that his parents talk to Rozemyne all the time during dinner and he lashes out.
確かに。今までは長男で後継者ってことでWilfredが注目の的だったのに、今は両親が夕食時にRozemyneとばかり話してて嫉妬してるんだろうね。普通くん+22
Atharaphelun
Adult parents prefer talking to the mentally adult child on numerous adult topics rather than the one who acts his age. Even regularly has tantrums too.
せやな、Wilfredは長男で後継者やから今まで注目浴びてたんやろな。でも大人の親からすりゃ、年相応に振る舞うやつより精神年齢が大人な子のほうが色々話しやすいわな。しかもWilfredはしょっちゅう癇癪起こすしな。2ちゃん+16
fer_sure
So, Rosemyne just invented concert tickets and differential pricing. How long until she speedruns ticket scalping and the resale market?
それな！ローゼマインがコンサートのチケットと価格差別を発明したってわけか。チケット転売とか二次流通まで一気にやっちゃうんじゃない？無理すぎるｗ感情くん+26
BeatBlockP
原文
Kind of a throwback episode (in a good way) to season 1. Getting back to the basics of creating new industries, misappropriating modern concepts (like Golden Ring tickets and milking idol fans) and giving us the rundown of a new printing tech. All while transitioning to the new magical / noble world. Really this episode had it all, and even the pacing was great (which means that the concert is spread over 2 episodes instead of being rushed in just one).
第1期を彷彿とさせる良エピソードだったな。新産業の創出や現代概念の流用（黄金リングチケットやアイドルファンの搾取）、新印刷技術の解説に至るまで、原点回帰しつつ魔法・貴族社会への移行も見事に描かれていた。何よりテンポが良く、コンサートが2話にわたって展開される構成も、急ぎすぎず丁寧で好感が持てる。考察くん+24
rollin340
原文
Wow, fancy swirl cakes and more cookie variations. The desserts she is introducing would probably end up more popular than books. Seeing Ferdinand smile and wink and brush up his hair was... unsettling. It's so unnatural. The feystone going pop was a good example of good art, but simplistic animation. This season so far looks pretty, but the animation and direction sometimes feels a bit lacking, especially when we have the few jumps in story that makes it feel rushed. I'm still happy for more, but I feel that it might be skipping too much detail here and there.
豪華な渦巻きケーキにクッキーのバリエーション増加か。彼女が紹介してるデザート、本より人気出そうだな。 フェルディナンドの笑顔やウインク、髪を撫でつける仕草は…なんか違和感あった。不自然すぎる。 魔石が弾けるシーンは作画は良かったけど、アニメーションはシンプルだったな。今期は全体的に綺麗だけど、ところどころ演出が物足りないというか。特にストーリーの飛び方が多くて駆け足に感じる。 続きが見られるのは嬉しいけど、細かいディテールを飛ばしすぎてる気がするんだよな。普通くん+23
Lunchb0xx87
High priest beefing with a child
うわっ、神官長が子どもと喧嘩してんのやばくない！？笑ギャル+17
RedHeadGearHead
I really liked the sinister look the bird gave while using Ferds voice.
鳥がフェルディナンドの声を使って不気味な目をしてたのがすごく良かったな。普通くん+17
Atario
原文
Careful talking like that. They'll send you to charm school and have you doing medieval radio calisthenics every morning on top of everything else This is now an aidoru anime Ey, she fixed it! Imagine hiring out her services as a completely unique feystone repair. Okay, not much call for it, but it should be high-revenue when it happens #seasonalpout No hesitation to stand up to Benno! You love to see it. Someone out there must be able to transliterate this She's inventing mass marketing (and sex appeal)
「そんなこと言うとチャームスクール送りにして、毎朝ラジオ体操させるぞ」 これでアイドルアニメ化や お、直したやん！完全オリジナルのフェイストーン修理サービスとして売り出すってか。需要は少なそうやけど、発生したら高収入やろな #季節の口とがらせ ベンノに立ち向かうの一切ためらわないの草。見てて気持ちええわ 誰かこれ文字起こしできる奴おらん？ マスマーケティング（と色気）を発明しとるやんけ2ちゃん+17
Zaradas
> Someone out there must be able to transliterate this Tried it with the letter table from the wiki, didn't get very far, but the very last paragraph has "5 small gold" easily readable. Edit: yeah someone on the subreddit did a whole conversion already.
確かに、wikiの文字表で試したんだけど、最後の段落だけは「5 small gold」って読めたんだよな。あの文字体系、実はエーレンフェストの言語構造を反映してるんじゃないかという考察ができる。既にサブレで完全変換してる人がいるみたいだけど、それを見ると制作陣の設定の緻密さがよく分かる。考察くん+17
Golden_Phi
原文
>medieval radio calisthenics Does this world even have a concept like this? >Ey, she fixed it! Myne: I can fix it! Ferdi: It's a stone it can't be fixed. Myne: No, it's clay, watch. *fixes it* Ferdi: WTF >No hesitation to stand up to Benno! You love to see it. She knows they way to get him to do her bidding is the promise of cold hard cash. >She's inventing mass marketing (and sex appeal) And she's doing it out of revenge!
あの「中世ラジオ体操」って、この世界にそんな概念あるの？ 「直した！」→マイン「直せるよ！」→フェルディ「石だし無理だろ」→マイン「いや粘土だよ、見てて」→フェルディ「は？」って流れ好き。 ベンノに物怖じしない姿勢、最高だよね。彼女は金の約束で彼を動かせるって分かってるんだよ。 マス・マーケティング（と色気）を発明してるけど、しかも復讐目的ってのが笑う。普通くん+8
FarCritical
If feystone weren't so expensive, I could see the Rosemyne "tactic" of overloading one with mana working as some sort of oversized shrapnel grenade. I love how much progress is being fueled by petty revenge and turning Ferdinand into an idol of all things lol
確かに、魔石のコストがネックでなければ、ローゼマインの魔力過多戦術は大型榴散弾として機能したかもしれないな。制作陣の意図として、魔力の制御不能が武器化される可能性を示唆していると考察できる。 小さな復讐心が進歩を促進し、フェルディナンドをアイドル化する流れが興味深い。この皮肉な展開は、キャラクターの人間性を深める伏線だと思われる。考察くん+14
8andahalfby11
"Oh dear Rozemyne, without F-15J fighter jets I'm afraid those books will just have to wait." 6 Months Later "Thanks for the jets Rozemyne, but would you happen to know where this VR thing comes from and why I'm shirtless in the play that appears in it?"
草ァ！これ完全に領主の養女ルートやんwww 「ロゼマイン様、F-15J戦闘機がないと本は待ってもらうしかないっすね」 →6ヶ月後 「戦闘機は感謝するけど、このVRとかいうのどこから来たんや？なんでワイがその中で上半身裸の劇に出てるんや？」2ちゃん+18
abandoned_idol
Ctrl+F pulled up 43 mentions of "Ferdinand". This is how you know that you have been blessed with a fan service chapter. Nothing like a snobby blue haired priest in order to make you forget about how harsh your life is. Ferdinand is life.
Ctrl+Fで「フェルディナンド」が43回もヒットしたんだが。 これこそファンサービス回に恵まれた証拠だな。世知辛い現実を忘れさせてくれる青髪のツンデレ司書様には敵わない。 フェルディナンドこそが人生だという考察ができる。考察くん+15
kilua87
Watch this idol culture introduction backfire on Myne if they make her do a concert next lol
ミーネにコンサートさせたらアイドル文化紹介が逆効果になりそうで笑える普通くん+10
NoHead1715
Rosemyne and Ferdinand both using Rihyarda to one-up each other, but in the end, Myne comes up short because of her main weakness - books! But the game is not over until Rosemyne achieves the holy grail of holding an idol concert in the new world. From the way her Mother is reacting, the concert will be legendary.
ローゼマインとフェルディナンドがリヒャルダを使って互いに張り合う構図は面白いな。最終的にマインが本という弱点で負ける展開も、キャラクターの本質を捉えている。ただし、ローゼマインが異世界でアイドルコンサートを実現するという究極目標を達成するまでは勝負は終わらないという考察ができる。母親の反応から察するに、そのコンサートは伝説級のものになる伏線だと思われる。考察くん+8
cs_cast_away_boi
Wonder what the implications of rosemyne fixing an unfixable stone will be. It seems like the magic in this world is flexible and that new spells are waiting to be discovered by the right caster.
やばくね！？ロゼマイが直せないはずの石を直しちゃったってことは、この世界の魔法って結構柔軟ってことじゃん！新しい呪文とかまだまだ眠ってそうだし、見つける人がいればどんどん出てきそうだよね～！ギャル+9
H-K_47
Yeah her unique commoner backstory and perspectives gives her a very different thought process, plus knowledge from our world, definitely some unique possibilities she could think up. Hence why she's so valuable and worth adopting. They gotta cultivate her and see what ideas she spits out.
せやな、ローゼマインの平民出身の視点と前世の知識が合わさって、普通じゃ思いつかん発想がポンポン出てくるんやろな。 だからこそ彼女は貴重で、養子にする価値があるっちゅうわけや。 とにかく大事に育てて、どんなアイデア飛び出すか見守るしかないンゴwww2ちゃん+6
Monkinary
I honestly really appreciate how Myne’s guards are low-key good at their jobs. Angelica immediately stepped between her and Wilfried when he started raising his voice at her. If he had done any more, I don’t doubt that she would have immediately retaliated.
マインの護衛たちが地味に仕事できるの本当に好き。ウィルフリートが声荒げ始めた瞬間、アンゲリカがすぐに彼女とウィルの間に割って入ったんだよね。もしそれ以上やったら、即座に反撃してたと思うわ。普通くん+9
djthomp
原文
Technological progress by way of Rosemyne and Ferdinand bickering with each other all episode long. Plus Rosemyne discovering that just because the old lady is an effective weapon against Ferdinand it doesn't mean she can't be one against herself too. I wonder what that golden material is that they're using as the reagent for the magic. Ferdinand called it a feystone I believe, but that doesn't really tell us much just yet. Hopefully it isn't made out of processed fairies, or something similarly horrible.
ローゼマインとフェルディナンドが終始言い争いながら技術発展を進めていく流れ、面白いな。特に、おばあ様がフェルディナンドに対して有効な武器になるからといって、自分自身にも同じ武器が使えないわけではないとローゼマインが気づくシーンは伏線として秀逸だ。 魔法の触媒に使われている金色の素材が何か気になる。フェルディナンドは「フェイストーン」と呼んでいたが、それだけだとまだ詳細が掴めない。加工された妖精とか、そういう恐ろしいものじゃなければいいが…。考察くん+9
SpaceMethJunkie
I don’t mind these pacing decision as a LN reader. It’s actually going quite well!
原作勢としては、このペース配分は全然気にならないな。むしろ結構いい感じだと思う！普通くん+7
B_rook-ie
the animation is growing on me and there are more ~~Roze~~Myne's Gremliness this episode
作画だんだん慣れてきたンゴwww 今回はローゼ…じゃなくてマインのゲスさ炸裂してて草2ちゃん+7
Magnafeana
原文
* Step the fuck aside, I would be in the front row seat for Daddy Ferdinand’s visuals! He doesn’t even need to smile. His stern face is a moneymaker. * Ferdinand at Coachella when??? * Is that Rumbleball? * ~~Domain~~ Ball Expansion? * Rozemyne really be taking spite and revenge to a whole new level. She would be an incredible mad scientist with the most petty villain origin story * Lutz!!! * I would like to buy a Daddy Ferdinand poster! Will they be selling NSFW versions 😶‍🌫️ * Yes, Mama, I’ll be right next to you!! *** I love the prospect of Stern Brunch Daddy Ferdinand having not only an in-universe fandom but hopefully a fandom name. Rozemyne’s rationale on why she takes Damuel over Brigette makes sense and I really like seeing her thought process explained. I appreciate the world building in Bookworm that nobility is complex. I just need to finish reading the LNs! I need an otome isekai with a Myne-esque MC. As long as a stern brunch daddy high priest is also there. Ferdinand is just such a brat, I adore him.
フェルディナンド様のビジュアル、前列で見たいわ！笑顔じゃなくてもいい。あの厳しい顔がもう金になる。 フェルディナンドがコーチェラに来るのはいつ？ それってランブルボール？ ~~領域~~ ボール展開？ ローゼマイン、マジで復讐と嫌がらせを新次元に持ってってるな。最高に小悪党なヴィラン誕生秘話で、狂った科学者になれるわ。 ルッツ！！！ フェルディナンド様のポスター買いたい！NSFW版売ってるの？ はい、ママ、隣にいるよ！ *** 厳格なブランチパパ・フェルディナンドが作中でファンダムを持ち、さらにファンダム名までつく可能性、最高すぎる。 ローゼマインがブリジットじゃなくダミュエルを連れて行く理由は納得できるし、彼女の思考プロセスが見えるのがいい。貴族社会が複雑だって世界観の構築がしっかりしてる。あとはライトノベルを読み終えるだけ！ マイネみたいな主人公の乙女ゲー転生モノが欲しい。もちろん厳格なブランチパパな大神官も一緒に。 フェルディナンドって本当に生意気で、それが好き。普通くん+7
wolf549
原文
Summary: Florencia and Elvira host a tea party to begin collecting funds for the printing industry, but Rozemyne isn't being taken seriously so they aren't able to collect the amount she needs. Rozemyne and Rihyarda team up to strong arm Ferdinand into holding a fundraising concert after Rozemyne fails to negotiate on her own by offering new music pieces and recipes. Elvira, the Ferdinand fan that she is, desperately needs this concert to happen. Ferdinand isn't going to take this coercion lying down though and begins training Rozemyne on magic, starting with forming her highbeast. Rozemyne breaks the feystone by imagining it popping like a balloon, but Rozemyne performs another improbable feat by reforming the broken feystone by imagining the pieces as clay which she balls together. Ferdinand's revenge goes further as he shows her books on magic, but then fills her schedule so she can't even read them. This is a suicidal act as Lutz duly notes because he knows not to get between Rozemyne and her books! Rozemyne begins plotting her revenge for this slight by developing mimeograph printing in order to create images of Ferdinand which she plans to sell at the concert, most likely without Ferdinand finding out. Benno gifts Rozemyne a diptych as Tuuli is now using her old one. In order to develop and safeguard the technology she doesn't want to bring nobles to the workshop in case the technology is stolen and so Brigitte is excluded from this visit. Wilfried is upset with Rozemyne about something. It looks like Rozemyne is talking with Sylvester during their family dinners while Wilfried eats silently so maybe that has something to do with it. Thoughts: I like the interactions between Rozemyne and Ferdinand a lot as they bicker and plot and scheme against each other. You just know Rozemyne is going to pay the price for her revenge at some point since Ferdinand is probably the much better schemer. Rozemyne's interactions in the hidden room in the orphanage with Benno and the like are also great since we get to see her true persona rather than her noble, always smiling as politely as possible, persona. The contrast between her noble and commoner persona is enjoyable to me. I'm wondering what is bothering Wilfried. Is he jealous because of all the attention Rozemyne is receiving as the new adopted daughter of the Archduke? It probably isn't easy suddenly having a new sister and one that's starting a brand new industry at the same age as he is. I'm guessing he's feeling inferior to Rozemyne but doesn't quite know how to express it at this point.
【要約】 フローレンツィアとエルヴィーラが印刷業の資金集めのためお茶会を開くが、ローゼマインは真剣に受け止められず目標額に届かない。彼女は単独交渉に失敗し、リヒャルダと組んでフェルディナンドに音楽とレシピを餌に慈善演奏会を強要。エルヴィーラは熱烈なフェルディナンドファンとしてこの演奏会を切望する。しかしフェルディナンドは黙っておらず、魔法訓練を開始。ローゼマインはハイビースト形成で魔石を風船のように割るが、粘土のように再形成する奇跡を起こす。フェルディナンドの報復は魔法書を見せつつ読む時間を奪う形で、ルッツ曰く自殺行為。ローゼマインは謄写版印刷でフェルディナンドの肖像を作り演奏会で売る復讐を計画。ベンノから二連板をもらい、技術流出を避けるためブリギッテは工房訪問から除外。ヴィルフリートは何かに不機嫌で、家族の夕食でシルヴェスターと話すローゼマインを無言で食べている様子が原因か。 【考察】 ローゼマインとフェルディナンドの応酬・陰謀合戦が非常に面白い。フェルディナンドの方がはるかに策略家なので、いずれローゼマインが代償を払うのは明白。孤児院の隠し部屋でのベンノらとの交流では、貴族の作り笑顔ではなく素のローゼマイン考察くん+7
H-K_47
Previously Wilfried was basically the 'only child' (he has 2 younger siblings but they stay in a separate building and don't get seen too much, not until their baptisms) so this is quite a change for him. She can't really interact or play with him in the ways he wants (she collapses from any physical activity) so to him she's some strange entity that just showed up outta nowhere.
確かに今まではウィルフリードがほぼ一人っ子状態だったからな。妹弟は洗礼前で別館にいるし、ロゼマインが突然現れた不思議な存在に感じるのもわかる。身体動かせないから遊び相手にもなれないしね。普通くん+10
wolf549
Yeah that's gotta be really disorienting. He gets a new sister the same age as him but she can't do anything he'd expect a kid her age should be able to do. He probably has no idea how to interact with her and if she's spending limited time in the castle since she's working in the temple then that gives them less of a chance to get to know each other.
確かにそれは混乱するやろな。同い年の妹が急にできたと思ったら、普通の子供ならできることが全然できへんし。どう接したらええかワケわからんやろな。しかも神殿で働いてて城にいる時間も限られてるし、お互い知る機会も減ってもうてるンゴね。2ちゃん+5
szalhi
*Oh no he's hot!* This is fine. The progenitor.
やばい、イケメンじゃん！ これは大丈夫。 始祖か。普通くん+5
FajarKalawa
Woohooo i am unbanned from source discussion outside the provided thread. Looks the pacing is ok now Rozemyne doing a revenge with idol concert 😂
草www ついに禁止解除されたか！ ペースも戻った感じやな ロゼマインがアイドルコンサートで復讐とかワロタwww2ちゃん+5
Solar_Slushie
Mess with a Bookworm's books, you get a Bloody Carnival!
本好きの本に手を出すと、血のカーニバルが始まるんだぞッ！最高すぎるだろ！感情くん+5
kkrko
She has two of the highest ranking women in the duchy to sanity check her ideas. It should be fine
やばくない！？彼女、領地でトップクラスの女性二人にアイデアの確認してもらってるんだって！絶対大丈夫じゃん！ギャル+23
kkrko
Only Elvira is a big simp. Florencia was willing to sit at the back (see the post credits scene)
エルヴィーラだけが大分シンプだよね。フロレンツィアは後ろに座るのを承知してたし（ポストクレジットシーン参照）。普通くん+15
maior_novoreg
Well they are nobles and separating personal feeling from duty is in their bones, otherwise they would get taken advantage of by others. And while Elvire looks like she is bulldozing it because she is fangirl#1, Florencia is the wife of the Lord and one of the most qualified people in the duchy.
確かに、貴族社会では感情と責務を切り離すのが基本だよね。エルヴィーラがファン第一号として押しまくってるように見えるけど、フロレンツィアは領主の妻として領地でも指折りの有能な人物だ。この立場の違いを踏まえると、彼女たちの行動は単なる個人の感情ではなく、貴族としての義務感から来ていると考察できる。考察くん+5
OldInstruction5368
原文
And not to mention just how much of a thirst trap Ferdinand appears to be. A huge portion of the noble ladies wouldn't blink at the idea of paying to see Ferdinand serenade them. And if anyone complains, they can say it's for 'charity.' Yes. Charity. A great and noble sacrifice for the betterment of society. You should be thanking me for buying a ticket! Totally wouldn't have bought it without that excuse... I mean, noble purpose. Totally.
フェルディナンドの色気やばすぎだろ。貴族の令嬢たちの大半は、彼にセレナーデを歌ってもらうためなら金を払うのをためらわないだろうな。 で、文句言う人がいたら「チャリティーだ」って言えるんだよ。そう、チャリティー。社会のための崇高な犠牲ってわけ。チケット買った俺に感謝しろっての！ その言い訳がなかったら絶対買ってなかったけどな…いや、崇高な目的だ。本当に。普通くん+13
Next_Package_5710
is it just me or does the pacing seem a little off?
ワイだけか？テンポちょっとおかしくね？2ちゃん+6
Golden_Phi
You will have to ask the source corner. I don't think source readers can properly give a yes or no answer outside of it, even with spoiler tags.
あーそれ、原作勢のコーナーで聞いた方がいいよ！ソース読者でも、ネタバレタグ使ったってちゃんとイエスかノーか答えられないと思うし〜笑ギャル+8
LouisLeGros
I miss the inner monologue chibi segments tho
でもチビキャラの内面モノローグパートは懐かしいな普通くん+6
hfriday01
原文
Despite what the subtitle told you that Rozemyne is a "princess", actually she's not a "princess" as in the "daughter of the king". In Japan, both the daughter of emperor and daughter of feudal lord are called "Hime-sama", though with different Kanji letters. In Bookworm's case, Rozemyne's standing is now equivalent to an adopted daughter of a feudal lord. We didn't meet any royals yet; the feudal lord's family is the highest hierarchy in the current settings.
タイトルで「お姫様」って言われてるけど、ロゼマインは「国王の娘」って意味のプリンセスじゃないンゴ 日本では「皇女」も「領主の娘」もどっちも「姫様」って呼ぶんや。本好きの場合、ロゼマインの立場は領主の養女ってとこやな 王室キャラはまだ出てきてないし、今の設定で最上位は領主一族やで2ちゃん+15