+1015
excluded
Did I miss an episode? I thought she died on the last episode.
え、もしかして俺だけ見逃した？前の話で死んだんじゃなかったっけ。普通くん+258
FajarKalawa
It's her clone, rozemain.
Joking aside
They skip it to make this episode a stand alone, they set the vibe for her reunion.
えっ！？それロゼマインのクローンだよ笑
冗談はさておき、この話を単体で成立させるために飛ばしたんだよね〜再会の雰囲気を盛り上げてる感じ！ギャル+178
Specific_Frame8537
So we'll be back to her dying on the carpet next episode? feels weird to leave that hanging...
確かに！次回はあのままカーペットの上で死にかけるんか…？あれを放置するの、なんか気持ち悪すぎるッ！感情くん+115
Galinhooo
I assume they will show that once the boy shows up again
ああ、そのシーンはまた少年が登場するときに描かれるんだろうなw まあ焦らしってやつか笑wwwおじ+43
FajarKalawa
There will be a discussion (probably later) but will they revisit the scene when she woke up with flashback? Idk
ああ、多分後で話し合うんだろうけど、目覚めた時のフラッシュバックでその場面を再訪するかは微妙だな。ドライおじ+36
nuxxism
>It's her clone, rozemain.
Doppelmyne.
確かに、それはドッペルマインなのだ。我が目は真実を見抜いている。中二病+44
BosuW
Myne and Rozemyne could be a _Shadows House_ pair
ああ、なるほど。マイーネとローゼマインで『シャドーハウス』のペアってわけか。面白い見方だね。普通くん+10
EXusiai99
Somehow, Rozemyne returned.
え、マジで！？ロゼマイン生きてたの！？しんどすぎるッ！！！感情くん+112
PerfectBeige
Praise be to Flutrane, the Goddess of water, healing, and new life!
フルトナーゲ様に感謝を捧げるでござる！水と癒やしと新たな命の女神よ、ロゼマインの御帰還、誠に喜ばしきことよ！武士+30
Phantom-Solitaire
I had to pause the episode check Reddit and then go back to watch it.
ワイもエピソード止めてReddit確認してから見直したンゴwww 完全に混乱したわ2ちゃん+82
aloudsnipper
So did I brother. I can't believe they just passed over that like it was just another Tuesday for the whole family.
我が同士よ、全く同じ運命を辿ったのだ。あの場面を一瞬で流し去るなど、まるで日常の朝食のように何事もなかったかのように…まさに運命の悪戯としか思えぬ。中二病+57
DarkAngel6669
insert goblin slayer "you get used to it" meme
まあ慣れるもんだよな。そういう家族もあるんだろう。ドライおじ+27
LightswornMagi
I mean, it kind of is.
確かに、家族にとっては日常的って感じだよね。普通くん+9
cyberscythe
yeah, i was like, did i miss an episode? what do you mean "without incident?"
同意！俺も「え、俺見逃した？」ってなったわ。「何事もなく」ってどういうことだよ！感情くん+18
Desperate-Map3331
Same. Lol, I really want to know what happened 😂
せやなwwwワイも途中で止めてReddit見てもうたわ
続きマジで気になるンゴ😂2ちゃん+9
SmartAlec105
Look, nearly dying is just a normal ocurrence for her:
* Died from bookshelf
* Nearly died from devouring 100x
* Nearly died from fighting nobles when entering the temple
* Nearly died from fighting more nobles that attacked her in the temple
* Nearly died from walking to the book room with Cornelius
* Nearly died from being dragged by Wilfried
確かに、彼女にとって死にかけるのは日常茶飯事だよね：
- 本棚で死亡
- 発熱で100回くらい死にかけ
- 神殿入場時の貴族戦闘で死にかけ
- 神殿襲撃の貴族とまた死闘
- コルネリウスと書庫に行く道中で死にかけ
- ヴィルフリートに引きずられて死にかけ普通くん+69
ProbablyNotTheCocoa
dont forget the trombe incident
トロンベの件忘れんなよw まじで死にかけすぎだろこの子wwwwwおじ+19
NowWatchMeThwip616
So what I'm getting is she can only be slain by bookshelf?
つまり彼女は本棚でしか倒せないってこと？普通くん+11
SmartAlec105
Temporarily, yes
それな！今のところは本棚でしか倒せないっぽいじゃん！ギャル+6
shad79
As you could see today, rumors of Rozemyne's death were greatly exaggerated! She's alive and well, and ready to develop the paper industry at the Archduke's behest!
It seems you've fallen for the propaganda of the nobles and priests, who consider her a commoner, even though this is an obvious and horrible lie.
今日の放送で見た通り、ロゼマインの死の噂は大げさだったな！元気に生きてて、領主の命令で紙産業を発展させる準備もバッチリだ。
どうやら貴族や神官たちのプロパガンダにまんまと引っかかったみたいだね。彼女を平民扱いするなんて、明らかなひどい嘘なのに。普通くん+57
rollin340
Jokes aside, it's weird how they just skipped over it. When Cornelius saw her half collapse after walking for a bit, he was given an explanation as to that being the reason of his assignment as her guard.
But to not have anything about the eldest son of the duke actually dragging her bleeding body across the carpet? Why skip the outcome of that more serious incident?
Edit: Grammatical error.
せやな、冗談抜きでスルーしたの謎やわ。コルネリウスが彼女が倒れかけた時に理由説明されたのは分かるけど、公爵の長男が血まみれの彼女を絨毯の上引きずった件はスルーっておかしくね？あっちの方が重大やろ。
編集: 文法ミス直した2ちゃん+52
feb914
Story wise it'll make sense to show it as flashback or pre-opening song in upcoming episode as it'll be based in castle once again.
確かに、話の流れ的に次回の城でのエピソードで回想とかOP前に挿入する形になるのが自然だと思う。普通くん+8
Golden_Phi
It's like South Park. Kenny dies and comes back fine the next episode without it ever being addressed.
確かに！サウスパークのケニー方式だな。死んでも次の話では何事もなく戻ってくるやつ。あれと同じで説明なしで生き返るパターンかもな。感情くん+16
Faux-Foe
It is revealed at one point that he is eternally being reborn immediately upon death because of a curse resulting from his parents’ previous involvement in a Cthulhu cult. Upon being reborn he ages up overnight.
It was a Coon & Friends episode.
確かに、ケニーはクトゥルフのカルトに親が関わった呪いで死ぬたびに即復活して一晩で年齢も戻るって設定があるんだよね。Coon & Friendsの回で明かされてたわ。普通くん+9
ExiledSenpai
I went and rewatched the end of the previous episode to make sure I didnt miss something. I haven't experienced this kind of cognitive whiplash since I watched the second episode of endless eight.
確かにそれな！俺も前の話の最後を見直しちゃったよ。まさかこんな展開になるとは思わなくて、エンドレスエイトの第2話見た時以来の衝撃だったわ…！感情くん+13
TarkusELP
Source tells me Myne is stable. Please God
え、最後の話で死んだって思ったの！？やばくね！？
でも原作ではマイネは安定してるらしいよ。神様マジで頼むわ〜ギャル+12
Albireookami
Eh, last episode showed how easy is is to heal with the bracelet ferdinand has, and mana in general, she was in no real danger, but with her going directly to the temple after her baptism, we will have to wait to see the fallout with Wilifred.
え、最後の話でフェルディナンドのブレスレットで治癒が簡単にできるって描写あったじゃん。マナもあるし、彼女は実際には危険じゃなかったよ。でも洗礼式後に直接神殿に行ったから、ウィルフリートとの後始末はまだわからないね。普通くん+8
Cancel_Time
I rewatched the first episode ending to see if I missed anything.
え、まじで！？私も最初の話のラスト見直しちゃったじゃん笑 やばくね？ギャル+7
PeaceAlien
I mean for the 4th season we know Myne dies on a whim
「いや第4期やろ？マインがポッと死ぬのは知ってるンゴwww お前ちゃんと見てるか？草」2ちゃん+5
hibikir_40k
It makes sense to skip Wilfried's lecture, since he has no reason to show up this episode. I bet we'll hear this mention the next time he shows up at the castle, and we might even get a flashback.
確かに、ウィルフリートの講義が省かれたのは道理でござるな。この回に登場する筋合いがないゆえ。次に彼が城に現れた折、今回の言及が明かされ、もしかすると回想も拝めるやもしれぬ。某もそう推察する。武士+5
Gorexxar
"oops, I accidentally flexed on everyone by doing a fantastic blessing. Was I supposed to do that?"
*Ferdinand with the smuggest smile in the background be like*
草、うっかり全員にすげぇ祝福かましてドヤったンゴwww
「ワイ、やってもうた？」って顔してるけどフェルディナンドが背後でドヤ顔決めてて草生えるわ2ちゃん+254
Golden_Phi
原文
I love how bookworm has the power fantasy over powered tropes but twists it all to make it interesting.
Like last episode: "What do you mean bless everyone?", "I've never seen such a large blessing!". Now this episode: "How'd she do that without a divine instrument?".
Myne has such an absurdly large amount of magic power and such an incredible ability to create industry that the ruler of the land welcomes her into his family. But none of that matters as much as her old family does.
確かに。本好きの下剋上はよくあるチート系ファンタジーをうまく捻って面白くしてるよね。
前回：「全員に祝福ってどういうこと？」「こんな大規模な祝福見たことない！」
今回：「神器なしでどうやったんだ？」
マインの魔力は異常に多いし、産業を創り出す能力も凄すぎて領主が養女に迎えるレベル。でもそれ以上に、元の家族との絆が一番大事ってところが良いんだよな。普通くん+128
moichispa
yeah second episode and second scene that tells us they're definitely scheming something. I guess we will find eventually what it is about but it is nice to have it looming, besides the shorter plot points
せやな、2話目でまた「絶対何か企んでるやろ」って分かるシークエンス来たンゴねwww 結局何なんかはそのうち分かるやろうけど、短いプロットの合間にそういう伏線がチラつくのがええわ2ちゃん+47
Coranis
Both times she showed off and they had that look she mentioned a "saint plan". They compared her to a saint during the baptism as well so I'm guessing they're planning on having her declared a saint so she's really untouchable.
確かにね。彼女が見せ場を作るたびにあの顔して「聖女計画」って言ってたし、洗礼の時も聖女に例えてたから、多分彼女を聖女に認定して完全に手が出せなくしようとしてるんだと思う。普通くん+66
Obaruler
原文
I mean ... they've spelled it out already - "Project Saint".
They're building her up to literally be one, her insane amount of mana + her goodwilling nature and charity work through the temple.
It's the justification as for why she gets thrown up the hierachy ladder by this much, she got adopted into the territories' rulers family as a child, so she is a potential ruler of the place in the future without anyone in noble society ever having heard of her. .
「いや……もう既に『聖女計画』って形で明示されてるだろ。
彼女の異常な魔力容量と、寺院を通じた慈善活動や善意に満ちた性格——これらを組み合わせて、文字通りの聖女として持ち上げようとしている。
これこそが、彼女がこれほど急激に階級を駆け上がる正当化理由だ。領主の養子として幼くして迎えられたことで、貴族社会で誰も彼女を知らないまま、将来的にはこの領地の支配者候補になる——そのための布石だと考察できる。」考察くん+5
nuxxism
I get the feeling it's more than just her mana pool. I think the gods like her too (remember when she touched that stone and it showed all the elements/alignments). Other than her one-track mind, she probably isn't too far off from being a true saint (whatever that means in this world).
確かに！魔力の量だけじゃなくて、神々にも好かれてる感じがするよね。あの石を触った時に全属性が出たシーンを思い出すよ。彼女の一途な性格以外は、この世界での聖女像に結構近いんじゃないかな。普通くん+8
BosuW
_All according to keikaku_
*フェルディナンドが計画通りって顔してるじゃん！笑ギャル+25
GoNinGoomy
Literally Aizen's VA btw.
草、藍染の声優本人やんwww2ちゃん+11
mekerpan
I liked that smile -- and RM's reaction to it.
それな！あの笑顔やばすぎるし、RMの反応もエモすぎて泣いたッ！感情くん+11
toilodi
The off the script parts is not stuff that she does wrong but rather stuff she does that goes beyond what is expected from her, they need it for the "saint plan" as she refers to
台本にない行動ってのは彼女のミスじゃなくて、期待以上のことをしてるだけなんや。本人が言う「聖女計画」に必要なことなんやろな2ちゃん+19
Albireookami
Yep normally a blessing is a little ball of light not..THAT
それな！普通祝福ってちっちゃい光の玉じゃん？あれはねえわ笑ギャル+12
feb914
More that the standard given to her is beyond what is normally expected to a person in her position. We saw how Archduke's real son acted last episode, and he's not perfect in any way. Rozemyne's education is a lot more demanding than his (partially because she's given one season to catch up education usually given since noble child was born)
確かに彼女に求められる基準が、普通の立場の人よりはるかに高いんだよね。前回の領主の実子の様子を見ても、彼だって完璧じゃない。ロゼマインの教育は彼よりずっと厳しいし（貴族の子が生まれた時から受ける教育を、たった一シーズンで追いつかせようとしてるからね）。普通くん+8
dreamofspring12
the contrast between Rozemyne mode and just being Myne with Lutz and Benno hits different every time. you can visibly see her relax and it's such good character work without even needing dialogue to explain it
ロゼマインとしてのモードと、ルッツやベンノといるときのマインとしての姿の対比が、毎回心に刺さるんだよな。台詞なしでも彼女がリラックスしているのが一目で分かるし、そういう描写だけでキャラクター性を描き切る手法は本当に秀逸だと思う。制作陣の意図が確かに感じられる。考察くん+184
LouisLeGros
Scold me Benno!
ローゼマインのギャップと、ユストやベンノといる時のマインのギャップ、毎回エモすぎるッ！！ベンノに叱ってほしい…優勝すぎる。感情くん+96
rollin340
I am 100% certain that there are plenty of Benno fans out there who would love to have his VA do that to them personally. Myne is out there living their dream.
それな！ベンノの声優に怒ってほしいって思ってる人、めっちゃ多いじゃん笑 マインが夢叶えててズルすぎる〜！ギャル+65
Shahars71
Benno's VA is the same as Dio from Jojo. You bet there's probably crowds of people who'd love to get yelled at by him.
草、ベンノの声優ってジョジョのDIOと同じやん。そら怒鳴られたい奴らわんさかおるわなwww2ちゃん+31
majideitteru
Lol, they just started the episode like that, not mentioning Rozemyne getting dragged across the floor even once?
Hmm... Apart from the animation I have a bad feeling about this season.
I can follow the story as I've read the books, but anime-only watchers are going to find this to be barely cohesive I think?
Hope the pacing becomes normal in the following episodes.
笑った、まさかああいう形で話始めるとはな。ロゼマインが引きずられた件、一切触れずに終わらせるってか？
うーん…作画以外だと今期はちょっと不安だな。原作読んでるから話は追えてるけど、アニメだけで見てる人はほぼ意味不明なんじゃないかな？
次回以降、話のテンポがマシになることを願うよ。普通くん+155
Majestic_Engine_6543
Idk if its true but it feels like there are more jump cuts this season also. Its weird that that interaction of Rosemyne and Wilfried was just resolved off screen.
Also was Arno killed offscreen? The post credits scene had me so confused. I hope they give us more information on that.
うーむ、確かに。今シーズンは明らかにカット編集の頻度が増している印象だ。ローゼマインとヴィルフリートのあの場面がオフスクリーンで解決されたのは、構成上の違和感が否めない。
そしてアルノの生死も気になる。ポストクレジットシーンが混乱を招く形になってしまったな。制作陣が意図的に情報を制限している可能性はあるが、今後の補足描写に期待したいところだ。考察くん+110
merolis
From the main POV, Arno just vanishes.
The POV unreliability comes up somewhat often in the story but from alternate POVs (aka side stories), Arno's action in the previous season incident and investigation was seen as malicious.
確かにメイン視点だとアルノは消えたようにしか見えないよね。でも別視点（サイドストーリー）だと前シーズンの事件や調査でのアルノの行動は悪意があるって判断されてたみたい。普通くん+92
Ocixo
原文
Ferdinand’s unexpected explanation of Arno’s disappearance caught me totally off-guard. He appeared to imply that Arno had been executed!?
It might have to do with Myne’s attempted kidnapping at end of the 3rd anime season? Arno had been responsible for keeping Ferdinand contained to one of the cathedral’s room during all of this. So he could’ve been sentenced to death as one of the Bishop’s accomplices.
フェルディナンドがアルノの行方について説明したシーン、まさか処刑されたって示唆するとは思わんかったわwww
第3期ラストのマイン誘拐未遂事件関連か？あの時アルノはフェルディナンドを聖堂の部屋に閉じ込めてたわけやし、司教の共犯者として極刑になった可能性あるンゴねぇ…2ちゃん+74
Albireookami
Yea, that's about the short and long of it. More so he went against his lords wishes.
確かに、要するにそういうことだね。それ以上に、彼は領主様の意向に反したってのが大きいな。普通くん+39
B_rook-ie
the Arno part is tackled in Chibi after-credits
確かに！あのアルノの件、本編後のおまけでちゃんと回収されてて草。フェルディナンドの説明エモすぎて泣いたわ。感情くん+20
tripleaamin
>Idk if its true but it feels like there are more jump cuts this season also. Its weird that that interaction of Rosemyne and Wilfried was just resolved off screen.
So much happened in episode 1 that it feels like it could have been 2 episodes.
確かに、ローゼマインとヴィルフリートのやり取りが画面外で解決されたのは違和感がある。制作側の尺調整の意図が気になるな。1話の情報量を考えると、2話分に分割しても良かったという考察は納得できる。考察くん+20
Hippo_Singularity
Yeah, the post credit scene made it pretty clear he was sent to a temple upstate.
確かに、ポストクレジットシーンで彼が地方の神殿に送られたのは明らかだったね。普通くん+6
shad79
原文
>Lol, they just started the episode like that, not mentioning Rozemyne getting dragged across the floor even once?
I think it's possible that they just moved that part to the next episode (which is titled "Archduke's Castle and Italian Restaurant") and they'll address it in a flashback then.
>Hope the pacing becomes normal in the following episodes.
I'd say the pacing in this second episode was better than the first; it felt like it had a better flow and wasn't as disjointed as the premiere. At least that's how I feel.
And I wouldn't expect anything better, because there's so much to cover in these 24 episodes (plus what wasn't touched on in previous seasons) that pacing *must* be pretty quick in order to adapt the whole Part 3.
確かに、ローゼマインが引きずられた件は次回「公爵邸とイタリア料理店」で回想としてやる可能性はありそうだね。
2話のペースは1話よりマシだったと思う。流れもスムーズで、初回ほどバラバラな感じはしなかった。でも24話でパート3全部をやるなら、どうしても駆け足になるのは仕方ないかな。普通くん+26
Albireookami
add in that we also had to recap everything about the characters motivations and key moments as well.
それな！しかもキャラの動機とか重要なとこ全部まとめて振り返りもあったし、まじで説明多すぎじゃね！？笑ギャル+7
MMinjin
Anime only here. Agreed that it is not a very cohesive, well paced story. First seasons were almost too slow, now they are too fast. When you see some other recent series that are really well directed, making the best use of the story that they possibly can, poor direction is more glaringly obvious.
確かに、アニメオリジナルの視聴者としては、このテンポの違和感は否めない。1期2期が丁寧すぎた反動で、今は情報量が詰め込まれすぎている印象だ。ローゼマインが引きずられる場面を省いたのも、尺の都合と見るのが妥当だろう。他の近年の良作と比較すると、演出の粗さが際立つのは事実。特に、原作の持つ細かな感情の機微や世界観の構築を、アニメとしてどう拾うかという演出意図が、今期はやや散漫になっていると考察できる。考察くん+15
MillenniumKing
Ithink quality is the best it been and as an anime only i find no issues folllowing the plot.
The pacing seems about as its always been, fairy solid.
確かに！でも俺はクオリティは過去最高だと思うし、アニメしか見てないけど話は全然追えてる。ペースもいつも通りで結構安定してるよ。感情くん+12
LowlySlayer
The pacing in ep 1 was schizophrenic. So many moments of "and this happened."
"I got scared if the toilets, then I got mad about servants giving me baths, then benno brought me rinsham."
The pacing of this episode was *much* better but going from the end of the last episode to the beginning of this one with no explanation was a *strange* choice.
確かに1話のテンポはめちゃくちゃだったね。「トイレ怖かった→使用人の風呂にキレた→ベンノがリーンシャムを連れてきた」って感じで飛び飛びだったし。今回のエピソードはだいぶマシだったけど、前回の終わりから今回の始まりに説明なしで飛ぶのは謎な選択だったな。普通くん+19
mekerpan
Having read the novels 3 times now, I am now kind of blind to "pacing". Rather I am looking to be enthralled by seeing/hearing favorite moments "brought to life". And so far -- no disappointments this season (unlike last).
せやな、原作3回も読んだワイからしたら「ペース配分」とかもうどうでもええわ。好きなシーンがアニメで動いて声付きで見られるのが至高やし。今期は前クソみたいなクオリティじゃなくてガチで満足しとるンゴwww2ちゃん+5
wait2late
The pacing has to be like this to adapt all of part 3. It is for the best to get used to it. Part 3 has 5 volumes, each volume will roughly get 5 episodes worth of attention.
確かに。Part3は全5巻で各巻5話ペースだから、このペースじゃないと全編をアニメ化できないんだよね。慣れるしかないと思う。普通くん+8
tripleaamin
原文
For most light novel adaptations, 5 episodes would be outstanding. As so many go for 3-4 episodes at most for a volume.
Though I do know for Bookworm the novels are really dense. Ideally, the apothecary diaries treatment would be ideal, but that was never going to happen.
Though the pacing for the anime has been pretty consistent. For someone like me who read the manga for Part 1 and Part 2 to get a refresher for Part 3, the pacing will take some time to getting used to.
確かに、一般的なライトノベル原作アニメなら1巻あたり3〜4話が相場だから、5話も使えるのはかなり恵まれてる方だよな。
ただ『本好き』は原作の情報密度が異様に高いから、理想を言えば『薬屋のひとりごと』クラスの丁寧な尺配分が欲しかった。でも現実的には無理だったんだろうな。
とはいえ、アニメ全体のペース配分自体は一貫してる。俺みたいに1・2部をマンガで復習して3部に臨んだ人間からすると、このテンポには正直戸惑いがある。特に原作の細かい心理描写や世界観の厚みを削ってる部分が気になるんだよな。ただ、アニメ独自の構成として見れば、これはこれで成立してるとも言える。考察くん+11
Cill_Bipher
> Though I do know for Bookworm the novels are really dense. Ideally, the apothecary diaries treatment would be ideal, but that was never going to happen.
Not only are they dense, they're also longer than the average light novel.
確かに。本好きの原作は単に詰まってるだけじゃなくて、一般的なライトノベルよりページ数も多いんだよね。薬屋の探偵のような扱いは理想だけど、現実的じゃなかったかもな。普通くん+12
BlueCheese973
100% with you
I have terrible feelings with this season.
The pacing is absolutely horrible and nonsensical. I dont give a f about the animation if the entire this is an incoherent rushed mess
確かにマジでそれな！
今期のペース配分やばくね？全然意味わかんないし。アニメーションとかどうでもいいから、もっと話をちゃんと見せてほしいわ〜ギャル+8
TurbidusQuaerenti
Yeah, it's pretty weird they just skipped over that like it never happened despite it being such a dramatic ending for the last episode. It was a good episode otherwise, though. Glad Myne was able to see her family and Lutz again so soon.
確かに前回の衝撃的なラストを完全スルーは草生えるわｗ
それ以外は良かったけどな。マインが早くに家族やルッツに会えたのは良かったンゴ2ちゃん+7
feb914
I know they want to focus on the family and lower family, but they could spend a minute on post collapse.
確かに。家族や下の家族に焦点当てたいのは分かるけど、倒れた後の描写にもう1分くらい割いてくれても良かったんじゃないかな。普通くん+6
skavinger5882
He did not work with the old High Bishop. He was executed for other reasons.
「いや、あいつは旧大神官とグルだったわけじゃないよ。別の理由で処刑されたんだ」感情くん+25
Albireookami
He died for the same reasons Shizika did back in the tromb hunt back in season 2.
彼が死んだ理由は、シーズン2のトロンプ狩りでシズカが死んだのと同じだね。普通くん+6
Contren
He didn't work with the old high bishop, he was executed for letting his rivalry with Fran cause him to massively fuck up Ferdinand's plans and almost getting Myne killed due to those mistakes.
いやもうその高司教と協力とかじゃなくて、フランとの確執でフェルディナンドの計画をぶち壊しにして、そのせいでマインが死にかけたから処刑されたんだよ。マジで無能すぎるだろッ！感情くん+6
Tortellion
Rest in hell Arno
アルノは地獄に落ちろやwww2ちゃん+98
Subject-Anywhere-874
Its been litteral years since last season, so I legit forgot who Arno was and was shocked to find out he's now dead.
マジで！？アルノって誰だっけって思ってたらもう死んでたの！？やばくね！？笑 数年ぶりに新シーズン見たら記憶飛びすぎててびっくりしたわ〜ギャル+30
Charming-Loquat3702
Arno was Ferdinands main Attendand. He messed up and was send up the towering staircase (what exactly happend is a spoiler at this point, I think)
確かに、アルノはフェルディナンドの一番の側近だったよね。階段送りにされたのはやっぱり衝撃的だった。詳細はまだネタバレになるから言えないけど。普通くん+19
szalhi
*What a nice looking family, that we've definitely never seen before.*
いい家族だな……って初めて見た光景すぎて泣いたッ！エモすぎる！！感情くん+80
Galinhooo
Glad to see they bounced back so fast, I heard their sickly daughter died not long ago.
それな！でもまじでいい家族じゃん？てか病気の娘さん亡くなったばっかって聞いたけど、もう立ち直ってるのやばくね！？笑ギャル+89
skavinger5882
A very devout family too, coming to the temple when they have no business there.
確かに信心深い家族だね。用もないのに神殿に来てるし。普通くん+65
mekerpan
Coming to give thanks to the Gods for Papa's promotion....
それな！パパの昇進に感謝しに来たって感じだよね、まじいい家族じゃん！ギャル+22
rollin340
Found it odd how they walked against the flow of people. lol
確かに、人の流れに逆らって歩いてるの変だったな。笑普通くん+11
cyberscythe
a touching reunion, but also, don't be like those guys who get the top of an escalator and just stand there during rush hour
あの再会シーンめっちゃ感動じゃん！でもマジで、ラッシュ時にエスカレーターの上で立ち止まるやつはマネしちゃダメだよね笑ギャル+24
tealjaker94
Only couples getting married were actually in the temple, they just showed up at the door afterwards to try to see her.
確かにそれは変だよね。普通は逆流しないもんなｗ普通くん+16
TheBusStop12
I like that they sprinkle in these Easter Eggs of the prequel when the main Character was Myne. Makes the world feel interconnected even after Myne's death now that we have a new, completely unrelated MC
せやな、前作のマイネ時代のイースターエッグをちょいちょい入れてくるの良いよな。主人公変わっても世界観が繋がってる感じがして草。2ちゃん+7
ObvsThrowaway5120
原文
So cute seeing Myne with Lutz and Benno. All that noble stuff sure is exhausting. It’s nice she doesn’t have to be “Rozemyne” around them. She can just be good ol Myne. At least in private.
That letter from her parents was really sweet too. She might not be able to meet them personally, but at least they’re able to still keep in contact and let her know how they’re doing. It was nice she could see them at the cathedral.
マインがルッツとベンノといるの見るとほっこりするね。貴族関係のことは確かに疲れるし、彼らの前では"ローゼマイン"じゃなくていいってのがいい。少なくともプライベートでは普通のマインでいられるんだから。
あと両親からの手紙もすごく良かったな。直接会えなくても、連絡を取り合って近況を伝え合えるのはありがたい。大聖堂で会えたのも良かったね。普通くん+75
feb914
Lutz may not be a lawyer, but he sure is smart enough to find loopholes to the magic contract. Myne's family is not educated enough and would not be willing to test the line without his help.
ルッツの頭の良さエグすぎるッ！弁護士じゃないのに契約の抜け道見つけるとか天才すぎる…マイネの家族だけじゃ絶対無理だったし、ルッツの助けがなかったら本当にヤバかった。このコンビ優勝すぎる！感情くん+45
mekerpan
I think Ferdinand and Sylvester worked pretty hard to build in as many (relatively safe) loopholes as they could. Ferdinand can seem overly strict and Sylvester overyly "carefree" -- but they are Myne/Rozemyne's life-savers. I like the fact that Sylvester came up with a protection plan for Myne that even Ferdinand did not know about (that pendant for use only in the case of direst emergency).
フェルディナンドとジルヴェスター、結構頑張って安全な抜け道をたくさん用意してたんだなって思うよ。フェルディナンドは厳しすぎるように見えるし、ジルヴェスターは自由すぎるように見えるけど、二人ともマイン／ローゼマインの命の恩人だよね。特にジルヴェスターがフェルディナンドも知らない保護計画（緊急時専用のペンダント）を考えてたのがいいな。普通くん+44
Lunchb0xx87
even with the threat of death Sylvester still seems to go above and beyond for her to still have some form of connection with her family and friends ..seemed pretty decent in the world they live in
それな！死の脅威があるのに、ジルヴェスターが家族や友人との繋がりを残すためにここまでやってくれるの、優しすぎるッ！あの世界ではかなり温情ある方だよな…エモい。感情くん+14
cyberscythe
> All that noble stuff sure is exhausting.
yeah, personally all of the stuffy noble politics stuff from last episode was a real bummer for me; the more personable moments in the secret room was a huge and welcome contrast
せやな、前回の堅苦しい貴族政治の話はワイも正直ダルかったわ。でも秘密の部屋でのアットホームなシーンとのギャップがめっちゃ良かったンゴwww そっちの方が断然好きやわ2ちゃん+8
feb914
原文
Lol Brigitte being a normal person and points out that this workload is too much for a child her age. Also poor blue priest that knew the truth but gaslighted by everyone. They're the evil ones that messed with the library though, so not feeling too bad.
And at least Gil still gets her head pat eventually.
It's nice of Ferdinand to give her time in secret room and also overlook the quick family reunion after baptism.
And the post credit being chibi, but the content is scary lol
ブリギッテが普通の人すぎて「この年齢の子には負担が大きすぎる」って指摘するの笑う。真実を知ってた青司祭も可哀想だけど、周りにガスライティングされてたし、図書館めちゃくちゃにした連中だからあんまり同情できないな。
ギルが最終的に頭撫でてもらえて良かったね。
フェルディナンドが秘密の部屋で時間くれるの優しいし、洗礼式後の家族再会を見逃してくれるのも良い。
ポストクレジットのちびキャラ、内容が怖すぎて笑うわ。普通くん+72
rollin340
> Brigitte being a normal person and points out that this workload is too much for a child her age.
Never forget that despite knowing full well how it was, Otto took full advantage and made her do most of his work. 😆
同意。ブリジッテが常識人として「この仕事量は子供には過酷すぎる」と指摘したシーン、本当に重要なポイントだよな。
オットーが全てを把握した上で、彼女に仕事の大半を押し付けていたという考察ができる。このキャラクター描写、単なるギャグではなく、貴族社会における労働搾取の構造を暗に示していると思われる。考察くん+33
LouisLeGros
Most the people she works with quickly realize she isn't a normal child & adapt to treating her differently. Then again this is a world where toddlers are expected to forage in the forest & children age 7 are working. Even then only a handful of people have the excuse of knowing she is mentally an adult.
確かに、彼女と関わる人のほとんどはすぐに彼女が普通の子供じゃないって気づいて対応変えてるよね。でもこの世界じゃ幼児が森で採集したり7歳で働くのが普通だしな。それでも彼女が精神的に大人だと知ってる言い訳ができるのはごく一部だけどね。普通くん+22
rollin340
She's weird wherever she goes. lol
確かに笑 どこ行っても変人扱いされてるのウケるｗ感情くん+6
Unremarkable_Chance
Orphanage Director, High Bishop, Head of the printing industry all at age 7 (actually 8)!
それな！孤児院長・司教筆頭・印刷業界のトップを7歳（実は8歳）で兼任ってまじでやばくね！？笑ギャル+18
ProbablyNotTheCocoa
you are now under arrest for the malicious spread of rumors against the Arch Dukes adopted daughters identity
「アーク公爵の養女の身分に対する悪質な噂の流布で、君を逮捕する」って感じだね。普通くん+6
mekerpan
Brigitte is going to both HAVE to learn to bend the rules and to ensure RM LEARNS the rules. Hopefully she is flexible and intelligent enough to handle such a demanding task.
確かにそれな！ブリギッテはルールを曲げることも覚えなきゃだし、ロゼマインにルールを教えるのも大事じゃん？笑 彼女が柔軟で賢い子だといいんだけどな〜マジで大変そう！ギャル+16
LeonKevlar
原文
So are they just gonna off-screen what happened at the end of last week's episode? And here I was thinking what Wilfried did last week would be a big deal. I hope they eventually show us what happened.
I am glad to see Myne be reunited with Lutz, and while it was brief, I got a little teary-eyed at Myne seeing her family again. I hope they'll get to talk face-to-face again in the future instead of just through letters.
先週のラストの展開、そのままなかったことにされるの？ヴィルフリートの行動が重要だと思ってたんだけどな。後でちゃんと描写されるといいけど。
ミュリーネとルッツの再会は良かった。短かったけど家族と再会できたシーンはちょっとウルッときた。手紙だけじゃなくて、また直接話せる機会があるといいな。普通くん+55
esuardi
I'm assuming they're going to go back to it when enough material can be used to focus on her new family life for an entire episode. It really depends on the studio to see how the want to segment the show, as they have done in previous seasons.
せやな、前回のラスト飛ばすんか？ワイもウィルフリートがどうなるか気にしてたンゴwww
でも多分、新たな家族生活に1話まるまる使えるネタが溜まったら戻るんちゃうか。スタジオの切り方次第やろな、前シーズンみたいに。2ちゃん+17
cyberscythe
> I got a little teary-eyed at Myne seeing her family again.
i liked that little "chest bump" salute that Myne and the father shared; it's been a while since the previous seasons so it stirred up some of those memories
同意。マイネが家族と再会したシーンはちょっと涙が出ちゃったな。
父との「胸突き」の敬礼も良かったよ。前シーズンから久々だったから、その記憶が蘇ってきた。普通くん+12
djthomp
Wild to just move on from Rosemyne getting dragged bloodily down the hallway by her oblivious new brother with zero follow up.
Good to get some details on the expansion of the printing industry out to additional towns, but we definitely need a bit more of that.
Myne wanting to get scolded and being so happy about it happening was great.
ロゼマインが無自覚な新しい兄に血まみれで廊下を引きずられていったのに、その後のフォローが一切ないのは確かに異様だな。印刷業の拡大で他の町に広がっていく詳細は良い情報だが、もう少し掘り下げが欲しいところ。
マイーヌが叱られたがって、実際に叱られて喜んでるシーンは秀逸だった。これは彼女の「領主の養女」としての立場と、元の性格のギャップを描く重要な伏線だと思われる。考察くん+41
abandoned_idol
>Myne wanting to get scolded and being so happy about it happening was great.
The comic relief feels so meta. They acknowledge that the scolding is part of the banter the audience loves so much.
"Bakamono!"
"Kangaenashi!"
確かに。マインが叱られたいって言って、実際に叱られて大喜びしてるシーンは最高だったね。
あのコミカルなやりとり、メタっぽくて面白いよな。
- 視聴者が好きな掛け合いって自覚してる感じ
- 「バカ者！」
- 「考え無し！」普通くん+16
Hot-Log6283
>Wild to just move on from Rosemyne getting dragged bloodily down the hallway by her oblivious new brother with zero follow up.
I actually had to go back and check if I missed an episode somewhere, it was like what the.
せやな、ワイも「は？」ってなって前の話見直したわｗ
ローゼマインが血まみれで引きずられてったのに、その後一切触れられないのガチで草
あの弟、マジで空気読めてなさすぎやろwww2ちゃん+9
Lulukassu
Offscreen respawn 🤣
画面外で復活してて草普通くん+43
Zefyris
and offscreen despawn for Arno
オフスクリーンでアルノも消えたんかーい草2ちゃん+43
abandoned_idol
My heart can't take it anymore! So much needless offscreen violence.
同意。アルノの退場が画面外って、心臓に悪いよ…。普通くん+9
Jusenkyo_5
I don't feel like I really missed the family at this point lol. We went from season 3's ending of "you'll literally never see each other again" to getting a gift in S4E1, and both a letter and an in-person meeting in S4E2.
Things are just happening with no build up.
確かに家族との別れの演出、シーズン3終盤の「二度と会えない」という重みから、S4E1での贈り物、E2での手紙と直接対面まで展開が急すぎるよな。伏線や感情の積み重ねが不足している印象だ。制作側の意図が読みづらい。考察くん+35
panther1313
Because Sylvester and company are allowing them to skirt the rules a bit to keep Myne sane. They're not allowed to meet and treat eachother as family in person, but they can meet for work related reasons and such.
シルベスターたちが、マインの精神安定のためにルールを少し緩めてあげてるんだよね。直接家族として会うのはダメだけど、仕事関係なら会えるって感じ。普通くん+39
HolyDragSwd2500
Myne collapse last episode
This episode: it’s like it never happened
やばくない！？前回のエピソードでマイン倒れたのに、今回まったくなかったことみたいになってるんだけど笑ギャル+33
jardex22
It felt a bit jarring for me as well.
I'm guessing they'll loop back around to it during her next encounter with him. They wanted to focus entirely on lower city stuff for this episode.
確かにちょっと違和感あったな。たぶん次に彼と会うときにその話に戻るんじゃないかな。今回は下町の話に集中したかったんだろうね。普通くん+22
SolomonBlack
Everyone freaking out like this doesn't happen frequently
それな！前回あんなにやばかったのに今回は何事もなかったかのように進んでて草ｗ
みんな大騒ぎしてたけど、こういうのしょっちゅうあるわけじゃないからな！ギャル+7
Ocixo
原文
The story seemed to have skipped over Rozemyne’s collapse at the end of last week’s episode, but I gather from her words that she’d apparently been force-fed medication.
I’m glad that Myne and her family have found a way to still keep interacting with each other.
I’d felt really bad for Tuuli. She’d been struggling with the desire to see her little sister and the reality of their new relationship on the other hand. If Tuuli works on building a good reputation as a professional seamstress for herself, they might even be able to meet in person again.
先週ラストのロゼマイン昏倒シーンすっ飛ばされたけど、薬無理やり飲まされたっぽいな。マインと家族がまだ交流できる方法見つけて良かったわ。トゥーリにはホント可哀想だった。妹に会いたい気持ちと立場の違いで葛藤してたしな。彼女が一人前の仕立て屋として名声築けば、また直接会えるかもな。2ちゃん+35
mekerpan
Combo treatment -- I would imagine -- Healing blessing plus "medicinal" mana restoratives.
確かに、治癒の祝福に加えて魔力回復薬の併用って感じだよね。普通くん+9
cyberscythe
did they also explain to the palace cleaners how Rozemyne left a trail of "raspberry jam" all over the carpet
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せやな、宮殿の清掃員にも「ラズベリージャム」の跡が絨毯にベッタリって説明したんかね…草2ちゃん+5
YoureLarryBird
Sayonara Arno
さよなら、アルノ…泣いた。まじで泣いたッ…！感情くん+29
FarCritical
It's a pretty rare sight to see such a gentle expression on strict old Benno but then again, the pure secondhand joy of a kid hearing from her family would soften anyone up.
Brigette's tiny scuffle with Fran made me wonder how an interaction between her and (pre-orphanage duty) Delia would go.
厳格なベンノがあんな優しい表情するの珍しいけど、子供が家族からの手紙読んで喜んでる姿見たら誰だって心が和むよね。
ブリギッテとフランの小競り合い見てると、彼女と（孤児院担当になる前の）デーリアがどう絡むのか気になるな。普通くん+20
cyberscythe
> It's a pretty rare sight to see such a gentle expression on strict old Benno
i had a little laugh when i remembered he slicks his hair back when he has meetings with nobility
確かに！厳しいベンノがこんな優しい顔するなんてレアすぎるッ！
でも貴族との会合前に髪撫で付けるの思い出してちょっと笑ったｗｗ感情くん+9
whyamihere2473527
How did it not address her collapsing & being dragged bloody down a hall. Did I miss something
彼女が倒れて血まみれで廊下を引きずられた件、まったく触れられてなかったよね。俺、何か見落としたのかな？普通くん+18
Golden_Phi
They obviously cut out a scene of the aftermath. Hopefully they address it later, otherwise I'm worried about the comprehensibility of this adaptation.
それな！確かにあのシーン飛ばされたよね笑 まじで後でちゃんと回収してほしい〜そうじゃないとこのアニメ、話通じなくなるじゃん！？ギャル+23
Independent_Row_1352
Viewers should know enough by now that Myne fainting from exertion is no big news, and a mandatory lesson for any new associate she meets.
せやな、マイネがぶっ倒れるのは今さらニュースにもならんやろ。新しく会うやつはみんな通る必修科目みたいなもんやしなw2ちゃん+11
whyamihere2473527
Welp id say its still serious but the bigger issue is that it doesnt even touch on it was her new brother that did it to her. There should at least be something that shows her new family knew & cares about her
確かに大事には至らないけど、問題は新しい兄が原因ってことに触れてない点だよね。せめて新しい家族が知ってて心配してる描写くらいは欲しかったな。普通くん+5
Orangewolf99
Maybe I missed something, but why is Myne still getting sick? I thought she was sickly because she had no way to burn off her excess mana, but as high bishop and daughter of an archduke, shouldn't she have plenty of access to instruments she can drain her mana into and opportunities to offer blessings to siphon off mana?
せやな、ワイも気になってたわ。マインがまだ病気になる理由がわからん。
高位司祭で領主の娘なら、魔力抜く道具も祝福の機会も十分あるやろ。
原作だと病気になるのって魔力過多が原因やったはずやのに、今の立場なら解決できてるはずやん。
何か見落としてるんか？2ちゃん+14
whyamihere2473527
Shes also a frail under developed child. The put strain on her but even without the constant strain it would take probably years for body to build itself up
それな！彼女は単純に虚弱で発育途中の子どもなんだよ。無理させてるのもあるけど、負荷がなくても体がしっかりするまで何年もかかると思う。つらすぎる……感情くん+27
Independent_Row_1352
So underdeveloped that part of her cover story is being years younger that she actually is, which explains her second baptism.
確かに、実際より何歳も若く見えるっていう設定も納得だよね。2度目の洗礼式もそれで説明つくし。普通くん+16
ScreamingFreakShow
Being constantly sick and full of mana stunted her growth and made her frail. It's one of the reasons Freida is also smaller than everyone else.
Now that she can siphon off mana, she's not at risk of dying, but her growth is still stunted and the lack of exercise due to being sick all the time as a child leaves her with very little stamina.
【返信】
常に魔力で体蝕まれてたせいで成長阻害されて体も弱くなってたんや。フリーダも同じ理由で小さいままやしな。
今は魔力抜けるようになって死ぬリスクは減ったけど、成長の遅れは取り戻せてないし、子供の頃に病気でまともに運動できなかったツケでスタミナもガタガタや。2ちゃん+11
mmcjawa_reborn
I think the sickly is on top of the excess mana. It just isn't going to outright kill her anymore
確かに！病気と魔力過多は別問題って感じだな。死ぬことはなくなったけど、体調不良が完全になくなるわけじゃないってことか。感情くん+6
shad79
原文
I haven't watched the whole episode yet, but I have to point out that they replaced the AI-generated backgrounds in the OP with new ones, hahaha. It seems like that online backlash worked wonders 😆
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Overall, this was a lovely episode! It's good to see that Rozemyne will be able to communicate with her true family through Lutz.
The scene in the hidden room with Rozemyne and Benno Company was great! The scene where Rozemyne complained to Lutz, or when she asked Benno to scold her, brought a huge smile to my face.
The after credits scene made me laugh out loud, although honestly, it was really dark, since Ferdinand practically casually confessed to Rozemyne that he had killed Arno. Only thanks to the fact that he didn't tell her directly, but by using a noble euphemism, it sounded much nicer than it actually was.
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
* Rozemyne
* Group scenes
* Ferdinand
* Others
*EDIT. I added my screenshot albums from the episode.*
【考察くん】
まだ全編視聴できてないけど、OPのAI生成背景が新しくなってるのには笑ったな。ネットの叩きが功を奏したみたいだな😆
全体的に素晴らしい回だった！ロゼマインがルッツを通じて本当の家族とコミュニケーション取れるようになるのは良い流れだ。
隠し部屋でのベンノ商会とのシーンは最高だったな。ロゼマインがルッツに愚痴る場面や、ベンノに叱ってと頼む場面には思わず笑顔になった。
ED後のシーンは笑ったけど、実はかなりダークだよな。フェルディナンドがアルノーを殺したことを事実上カジュアルに告白してるんだから。貴族の婉曲表現で直接言わなかったおかげで、実際よりマシに聞こえてるだけだ。
以下、スクリーンショットアルバム：
- ロゼマイン
- グループシーン
- フェルディナンド
- その他
※編集：エピソードのスクリーンショットアルバムを追加しました。考察くん+15
feb914
> I have to point out that they replaced the AI-generated backgrounds in the OP with new ones, hahaha. It s
WIT studio made official post acknowledging this and that it'll be replaced from this ep.
草、OPのAI背景差し替えたんかwww
WITが公式で認めて修正入れたってガチやん
マジでちゃんとしとるなこのスタジオ2ちゃん+12
shad79
I'd advise you to visit the Source Material Corner to find the answer to your question about Arno. Everything is explained there.
えっと、アルノについての質問の答えはソースマテリアルコーナー見てみるといいよ！全部説明されてるから！ギャル+7
carebearmentor
Anime-only but I felt that without coming out and saying it, they always made Arno seem like he hated his job whenever Myne was around. I expected an overt betrayal or at least some spying from him. Being guilty of dereliction of duty seems pretty acceptable.
アニメしか見てないけど、直接言わなくてもアルノーはミーネの周りにいるといつも仕事を嫌がってる感じがしたんだよね。明確な裏切りかせめてスパイ行為を期待してたんだけど、職務怠慢で有罪ってのはまあ納得できるかな。普通くん+5
One_Actuary2296
Wait what about where episode 1 ended? She was on the floor with blood smearing it....
Now suddenly she's ok?!
草、血まみれで床に倒れたままで終わったのに急に元気になっててワロタwww
どうなっとるんやこれ2ちゃん+12
skavinger5882
We know from the terombe incident in season 2 that Fredinand can use healing magic
確かに。シーズン2のトロンベ事件でフェルディナンドが治癒魔法使えるの知ってるしね。普通くん+8
One_Actuary2296
Yes but they should still show that at least. Her getting healed even if it's a quick flashback. I'd wonder if the kid even got a little scolded or told hey this girl can't handle too much walking and excitement
確かに、フェルディナンドが治癒魔法を使えるのは第2期のトロンベ襲撃事件で明らかになっている。だが、それでも最低限の描写は必要だと思う。たとえ簡単な回想シーンでも、彼女が治療される場面を入れるべきだった。あの子が「この子は歩きすぎや興奮に耐えられないんだぞ」と少しでも叱られたり注意されたりしたのか、気になるところだ。考察くん+5
whyamihere2473527
Had same thought like wtf they just gonna gloss over that
それな！！「えっ？さっきまで血だらけで倒れてたのに…」って思ったら何事もなかったかのように進んでてマジで意味わからんすぎるッ！感情くん+5
Sleepy10105s
This second season is moving at breakneck pace
２期の展開がめっちゃ速いな普通くん+10
oneevilchicken
Annnddd I have no idea what’s going on now. How do they just ignore what happened at the end of last episode like it never happened.
It would be different if they did a little to acknowledge it but have it intentionally swept under the rug but the show itself just seems to forgot it happened.
ワイもう何がなんだか分からんわwww 前回のラストあんな展開あったのに、なかったことにされてて草
ちょっとでも触れてから流すならわかるけど、作品自体が忘れてる感半端ないンゴ2ちゃん+12
FajarKalawa
The animation direction improved but the music placement is still the same as before.
The foreshadowing is also great. Arno got off screened also included (nice)
They skip the scene when she woke up 😂. Hoping flashback later
My rating will be 4.5/5 again, they should skip the opening and include those scene.
アニメーションの演出は改善されたが、音楽の配置は以前と変わらず同じだな。伏線の張り方は素晴らしい。アルノーが画面外で処理されたのも含まれている（良い判断だ）。彼女が目覚めたシーンをスキップしたのは笑ったな。後でフラッシュバックがあることを期待したい。評価はまた4.5/5だ。オープニングをカットして、そのシーンを入れるべきだったという考察ができる。考察くん+11
Contren
I'm assuming we'll get the fallout from Wilifried's attempted murder next episode when they're back at the Castle.
確かに！ウィルフリードの暗殺未遂の後始末、城に戻ったら次回やるっぽいよね！楽しみじゃん！ギャル+6
encryptoferia
原文
OH MY GOD
How much I squealed and cheered for this episode, finally they meet again.
Gotta say that Lutz really nailed the "give me back my tears"
But man, I can't help but like feeling proud for Myne and Urano, cause I feel like this Season is the culmination of her really stepping up as an adult with real more heavy duty and position as a noble and high bishop
Go Myne Go, let them know what a real blessing look like
うわマジかよ！この回めっちゃ叫びながら見ちゃったよ、ついに再会か。
ルッツの「俺の涙返せ」はマジで決まってたな。
でもそれ以上に、マイネとウラノにめっちゃ誇りを感じるわ。今期は彼女が貴族＆上級司書として、大人の責任を背負いながら本気で成長する集大成的なシーズンだと思うんだよな。
頑張れマイネ！本物の祝福ってやつを見せてやれ！普通くん+7
NoHead1715
hmm.. so they really just used that ending one-liner last episode to wave away what happened after being dragged bloody on the ground. Not too pleased with that decision, but I suppose they want to focus more on the heartwarming scenes with Myne rather than the boring noble life of Rosemyne.
うーん…前回の最後の一言で、血まみれで引きずられた後の展開を流しただけかよ。その判断はあんまり納得いかんけど、まあロゼマイネの退屈な貴族生活よりマインの心温まるシーンに焦点当てたかったんやろな。2ちゃん+9
chelseablue2004
If Arno is dead, then That piss ant knight is also dead along with the ex-High Bishop and good riddance to them...
They might have ascended the stairway to heaven but hopefully it was the down escalator to hell.
アルノが死んだなら、あのちんけな騎士も元司教も一緒に死んでるってことか。せいせいするぜ…
天国に行ったかもしれないけど、できれば地獄行きのエスカレーターだったことを願うよ。普通くん+6
feb914
Which piss ant knight?
どのクソ騎士のこと？感情くん+6
_vogonpoetry_
Odd pacing choices aside (I think they are just really speeding through this part to get to the plot heavier stuff?), The character art and animation is soooo much better now. Benno looks a little odd to me though.
変なテンポは置いといて（多分もっと話が重くなる部分に早く進みたいんだろうね）、キャラの作画とアニメーションがめっちゃ良くなったな。でもベンノだけちょっと違和感あるかも。普通くん+7
Subject-Anywhere-874
Man, I'm going to end up crying everytime I see this ED aren't I?
ED流れるたびに泣いてまうやんけ…ワイの涙腺ガバガバやろこれwww2ちゃん+7
RavenWolf1
What skyrocketing career path from peasant to arch duke's daughter and high bishop.
農民から大公の養女で高位司祭って、すごい出世街道だね。普通くん+6
Obaruler
Not entirely on board for how much content and more importanly dialogue they are skipping.
They basically ignored her new archduchal brother draggin her into collapse the last episode and are not showing the aftermath or any talks about informing everyone of RozeMynes poor health .....
確かに、かなりの量の内容、特に重要な会話が省略されているのが気になるな。前回のエピソードで彼女の新しい領主の兄が彼女を倒れさせた件を基本的に無視して、その後の展開やロゼマインの健康状態が悪いことを全員に知らせる話し合いも一切描写していないのは、明らかに構成上の問題だと思われる。考察くん+8
Martian_on_the_Moon
It's been a while. What this Arno guy did that he met such fate?
確かに。あのアルノってやつ、何やらかしたんだろうね。普通くん+7
feb914
In the season 3 finale, he told Fran that Ferdinand was away, when in fact he's in his secret room. Had Ferdinand been informed, the season 3 finale event wouldn't have happened.
確かに！アルノがフェルディナンドが離宮にいないってフランに嘘ついたのが原因だよね。もし本当のこと言ってたら、シーズン3のラストのあの事件は起きなかったんじゃない？やばくね！？ギャル+18
feb914
I think they didn't intend it to go that far. They prevailed in the end because Myne finalized the adoption contract, which she did outside of Ferdinand's knowledge. Ferdinand wouldn't base his plan on such flimsy move.
His plan must include Myne not facing them directly
彼らがここまでやるつもりはなかったと思うよ。最終的に勝てたのはマインがフェルディナンドに内緒で養子縁組の契約を完了させたからだし、あの人はそんな不安定な動きに頼るタイプじゃない。
彼の計画には、マインが直接彼らと対決しない選択肢が含まれてたはず。普通くん+10
zool714
原文
That’s a huge jump to suddenly become High Bishop. Are there no other Priests ? Or is this based off her status ? Either way it’s a double-edged sword for sure. More power but more scrutiny as well.
Always get emotional when her family is involved. Really hope they can find a way to meet more frequently and without the formalities. Her reverting to Myne for a while in that room was really sweet and heartwarming too. And lmao she asked Benno to scold her. She used to quiver at it but now she feels relieved by it.
Oh and Lutz is so much taller than her now
突然の高位司祭就任には驚かされるな。他の聖職者は存在しないのか、それとも身分が優先された結果なのか。いずれにせよ諸刃の剣だ。権力強化と同時に監視も厳しくなる。
彼女の家族が絡むシーンは毎回感情が揺さぶられる。もっと気軽に、形式ばらずに会える方法が見つかってほしい。あの部屋で一時的にマインに戻った彼女の姿は本当に心温まるものだった。そしてベンノに叱ってくれと頼んだ場面には笑った。以前は震え上がっていたのに、今では安心感を覚えているんだな。
ルッツが彼女よりずっと背が高くなっているのも興味深い。成長の証であり、時間の経過を感じさせる要素だ。考察くん+7
Tenarserg
This is based on status. As mentionned in the episode, the temple is a place that most other nobles avoid and hold in contempt. Rosemyne has a status that is way too high to be merely a priest or an apprentice priest under a low ranked noble bishop. Ferdinand would be the only other possibility but Rosemyne would end up with the status of High Priest anyway.
これは身分に基づいてるよ。エピソードでも言われてたけど、神殿は大抵の貴族が避けて軽蔑する場所なんだ。ローゼマインの身分が高すぎて、低ランク貴族の司教の下で司祭とか見習い司祭になるのは無理がある。フェルディナンドがもう一人の候補だけど、それでもローゼマインは結局高位司祭の立場になっちゃうと思う。普通くん+18
Zxzxzx0088
The wait was totally worth it for Rozemyne. She can finally recharge her Lutz power. No obstacle can stop her now!
Like ~~Myne~~ Rozemyne, I miss Benno scolding too.
わかった…ローゼマインの待機、完全に報われたッ！ やっとルッツパワー充電完了したんだな！もう誰にも止められねぇよ！
ベンノの説教も恋しい…~~マイン~~じゃなくてローゼマインとしてだけどな！感情くん+5
PerfectBeige
原文
Note: Arno died on the way back to his home planet.
I wonder if he's dead though. Even if he angered the Head Priest by not telling Fran where the Head Priest was during the attack last season, the Head Priest doesn't strike me as someone who would casually have a loyal attendant put to death. So either Arno is on a special mission requiring secrecy... or I don't understand how ruthless nobles are in this society.
...
Well I guess the church was running an orphan concentration camp until Myne came along.
※注意：アルノは故郷の惑星に帰る途中で死亡しました。
でもアルノって本当に死んだんかね？前シーズンでフランに司祭様の居場所教えなかったのは確かに怒り買ったけど、あの司祭様が忠実な侍従を簡単に処刑するとは思えんのや。つまりアルノは秘密任務中か…さもなきゃワイがこの世界の貴族の非情さを理解してないってことやろな。
いやまあ教会はマインが来るまで孤児収容所やってたわけやしな…2ちゃん+6
Tacitus_
A loyal servant doesn't ruin a plan that's been a year in the making.
確かに、一年かけて準備した計画を台無しにするような忠臣はいないよね。普通くん+17
skavinger5882
原文
> Well I guess the church was running an orphan concentration camp until Myne came along.
There's some lore that's easy to miss and far enough apart that it's difficult to put together in the second season that explains this.
About a decade ago there was a massive civil war, which caused a bunch of blue priests to be called back home to make up for the nobles that died during the civil war.
Grey priests get their food from the left overs of the blue priests meals, we see this is Gil starving when Myne locks herself in the book room to read.
All the blue priests returning home means there's less food for the grey priests and the orphanage. Hence one of the reasons for the terrible state Myne finds it in during season 2.
**返信先:** 「アルノは故郷の星に帰る途中で死んだんだな」
**返信:**
> つまり教会はマインが来るまで孤児の強制収容所やってたってわけか
確かにシーズン2だけじゃ繋がりにくい伏線あるンゴねぇ
・10年くらい前に大内戦あって青司祭が呼び戻された
・青司祭の残飯で食ってた灰色司祭が飢えた（マインが書庫に籠ったときのギルの描写）
・青司祭が減ると孤児院の食料も減る
つまりシーズン2であの惨状だった理由の一端やったわけか…草2ちゃん+11
PerfectBeige
原文
Fair enough, but it's part of the world building I've found challenging to make sense of. Bread is cheap and nobles are wealthy. If Ferdinand had known the state of the orphans and actually cared enough to run interference with his uncle, one would think that he could have done something to prevent starvation. It seems that he didn't know how bad things were when Myne shows him the basement after the clean-up. But it also seemed to me that he was at least somewhat sincere when he told Myne that unbaptized orphans weren't people in his eyes.
But maybe this is nuanced further in the light novels. Don't tell me, I'll read them eventually.
確かにそれは言えるね。ただ、この世界観の部分は自分も理解するのに苦労したんだ。パンは安いし貴族は裕福なのに、フェルディナンドが孤児たちの状況を知ってて叔父に働きかけられたら、飢えを防げたはずだしね。どうやら彼はマイネが片付け後の地下室を見せるまで、事態の深刻さに気づいてなかったみたい。でも、洗礼を受けていない孤児は自分の目には人間じゃないってマイネに言った時、彼は少なくともある程度本気だったようにも思えるんだよね。
でも、これってライトノベルでもっと掘り下げられてるのかも。言わないで、そのうち読むから。普通くん+6
lvl5hm
Nobles are stretched very thin because of the mana shortage and also care very little about the commoners, even Ferdinand. Like in this episode he off-handedly mentions how he murked Arno (presumably for being a dick to Myne and Fran during the incident)
せやな、貴族は魔力不足でギリギリの状態やし、平民なんてどうでもええんやろな。フェルディナンドでさえそうや。今回の話でアルノを始末したって軽く言うとったやん、マイネとフランにクソ対応したからやろなwww2ちゃん+9
LivingForTheJourney
原文
Yeah my view of Ferdinand is that he is more of an opportunist than a benevolent leader. He knows Myne is important to keep the existing system alive and will bend over backwards and even make himself emotionally available to that end.
Like I remember his conversation with Karstedt and it’s basically “she will revolutionize our world if we let her.” With the implication that they need to be at the center of making that happen.
But I can’t think of other situations in the previous seasons where Ferdinand was benevolent to a commoner that wasn’t already important to Myne, his ticket to stabilizing the country and his position.
Before he knew of her power, he was ready and willing to let the high bishop execute her parents. It wasn’t until she nearly crushed the high bishop’s heart with magic that he was like “Oh we probably need her” and stepped in.
確かにフェルディナンドは善人ってよりチャンスを狙うタイプだよね。彼はマインが既存のシステムを維持するために重要だって理解してて、そのためなら感情的に寄り添うことだって厭わない。
カールシュテットとの会話でも「彼女を野放しにすれば世界を変えるだろう」って実質言ってたし、その中心に自分たちがいる必要があるって含みがあった。
でも前のシーズンでフェルディナンドがマインにとって重要じゃない平民に親切にした場面って思いつかないんだよな。彼女こそが国と自分の立場を安定させる切符だからね。
彼女の力を知る前は、両親が高位司教に処刑されても構わないって態度だったし。マインが魔法で司教の心臓を潰しかけて初めて「これは必要な人材だ」って気づいて介入したんだよ。普通くん+6
hibikir_40k
He was anything but loyal. The idea of putting myne as head of the orphanage was just a way to harass Fran. He has some REALLY bad memories of a former orphanage director. The time he asks myne to go to the dedication ritual early? More harassment, hoping the high bishop harmed her or Fran.
Arno is competent, but he was never even a little loyal.
Arnoは忠誠心なんてこれっぽっちもなかったンゴ。孤児院長にマインを据える案も、要はフランを嫌がらせしたかっただけやろ。元孤児院長のトラウマがマジでヤバかったみたいでな。マインに早く奉献式行けって言ったのも嫌がらせや。高司教にマインかフランがやられるのを期待してたんや。有能ではあったけど、忠誠は微塵もなかったわ。2ちゃん+5
Western_Promise3063
the part where she randomly had 6 fingers including 2 thumbs was pretty weird but other than that good episode
急に指が6本（親指2本）になってたのはちょっと変だったけど、それ以外は良い回だったね普通くん+6
_Sai
The end of ep 1 never happened, ya'll. We get only get happy moments here!
草マジかよｗ
第1話のラストなんてなかったンゴwww
ここは幸せなシーンだけだぞ！2ちゃん+5
rollin340
> Rozemyne looking kinda short
It should just stop there. She's tiny by ANY metric. Most of her energy that should have been used to grow was instead diverted to holding back the Mana. It's why Freida is also small.
ロゼマインはどう見ても小柄だな。成長に使うべきエネルギーの大半が魔力を抑える方に回ってしまったという考察ができる。これがフリーダも小柄な理由だと思われる。考察くん+6
Throwaway_12988
Honestly a bit disapointed the episode didn't start following the end of the last episode, but other than that, it was great! Though I don't understand why these commoners are allowed to interact with a high nobel; like, I get their dead daughter had a similar name and kinda looked similar, but why should that matter to the saintess Rosamyne? (This is a joke/sarcasam.)
正直、前回の終わりから続かなかったのはちょっと残念だったけど、それ以外は良かったよ！平民が高位貴族と交流できる意味が分からないんだけどさ。亡くなった娘と名前が似ててちょっと見た目も似てるのは分かるけど、それが聖女ローザミネにとって何の関係があるんだって話だよね（冗談/皮肉です）。普通くん+5
panther1313
>10(?)
She's 8, but for the sake of her adoption she's repeating her 7th year. So she's 7 to everyone who doesn't know the truth about her.
草www 年齢詐称してるのかよ
表向きは7歳で通してるってわけか
ワイは8歳って知ってるけどな！2ちゃん+7
H-K_47
Correct lol.
Fantasy feudalism for the win.
確かにね。
ファンタジー封建制最高だわ。普通くん+5
ObvsThrowaway5120
Might be a browser extension instead of CR.
それブラクラじゃなくてブラウザの拡張機能のせいじゃね？感情くん+18
bubaiv
They fixed it after a few minutes I think . Its working normally now. Also, can't be a browser extension. My bad for not mentioning, I use the CR app on my iPad 😅
直ったっぽいわ。数分後に復活したンゴ。普通に動いてる。つかブラウザの拡張じゃないで。言い忘れたけどiPadのCRアプリ使ってるわ😅2ちゃん+5
zool714
Tbf Iguchi Yuka (Myne’s VA) already sounds like a chipmunk in normal speed lol
いやでも井口裕香（マインの声優）は通常速度でももうシマリスみたいな声してるからな笑普通くん+6
feb914
>Yeah i cant see the AI part in this op they said was here.
WIT studio announced they're replacing it.
Tbh I couldn't tell the difference, wouldn't have noticed without the online backlash.
え、このOPにAI使われてるって言われてた部分、全然わかんなかったんだけど！笑
WITスタジオが差し替えるって発表したんだってね。正直、ネットで騒いでなかったら気づかなかったわ〜。まじで違いわかんなかったじゃん！ギャル+11
Golden_Phi
It would be stupid of them to scold RM over literally anyone else in that situation. The guard knights needed to do their job and the little shit shouldn't have dragged her across the floor in the first place.
草。あの状況でロゼマインを叱るなんて馬鹿すぎるやろ。衛兵騎士は仕事しろって話やし、そもそも小僧が床引きずり回したのが悪いわ。2ちゃん+5
H-K_47
He prevented them from meeting with Ferdinand, resulting in them confronting the bad noble at the end of last season. This nearly got them killed and almost messed up Ferdinand's plans. So he had to go.
あのキャラがフェルディナンドとの面会を妨害したせいで、前シーズン終盤に悪い貴族と対峙することになったんだよね。そのせいで危うく殺されかけたし、フェルディナンドの計画も台無しになるところだった。だから消されるのは当然だったんだと思う。普通くん+6
H-K_47
I don't think he was in on it, but obstructing them almost caused the plan to fail, so he got slimed for interfering instead of just doing his job like he was supposed to.
あの人がグルだったわけじゃないと思うんだけどさ、邪魔しちゃったせいで計画がほぼ失敗しそうになったじゃん？だから自分の仕事ちゃんとやらずに余計なことした罰で、ぬるぬるにされちゃったんだよね〜笑ギャル+7
antiukap
Less than two months have passed between the fight with Bindewald at the end of spring (the end of the third season) and her becoming the high bishop in the middle of summer.
春の終わり（3期ラスト）のビンデバルド戦から真夏の高位司祭就任まで2ヶ月も経ってないンゴwww 展開早すぎやろ草2ちゃん+6
