放送 2026-06-02更新 2026-07-06
Jacob-C
The progression is really stale (no pun intended). They also linger unnecessarily long on each scene and drag them out. Just out of curiosity I went back and played certain parts at 1.25x or 1.5x speed, depending on the scene, and it was like watching any other show at normal pace.
展開ガチで停滞してる(ダジャレちゃうで)。各シーンも無駄に長すぎ。1.25〜1.5倍で見たら普通のアニメの通常速度やったわ。2ちゃん
AvatarTuner
原文
Yeah, that's something that really bothers me with this series. I generally like the characters and plot (except all that Pride glazing lol), but it feels like it moves at snail's pace with those constant flashbacks and scenes lingering on characters' faces. The pacing stagnates in so many scenes... It's likely a budget issue but I'm also pretty sure there is enough source material, so they could've gone for a slightly faster speed and adapt more. Which is a strange thing to even complain about because so many adaptions just do a speedrun through the story which is equally bad. *coughunnamedmemorycough*
それ、この作品でかなり気になる。キャラと話は好き(Pride持ち上げ以外w)だけど、回想と顔アップでテンポ遅すぎ。Unnamed Memoryみたいな爆速も嫌だけどね。普通くん
Earlier-Today
Maybe he meant "directly" and it was a bad translation?
もしかして「直接」って意味だったのに、翻訳がミスっただけでは…?感情くん
NationalStrategy
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This is a minor tangent, but shouldn't Tiara have more relevancy in both the anime and the in-story game? Tiara is meant to be the original main protagonist in the game, but now, I don't recall the last time she played a pivotal role in the story, she usually just stands around and does nothing noteworthy; and even in the in-story game, it seems like Pride does more than her. In fact, Tiara wasn't even in this episode, that's how little she matters. I know that the timeline in the anime is different the game, and Pride is the main focus, but I would still like to see Tiara do more in the story, and play a pivotal role.
ちょい脱線だけど、Tiaraってもっと重要じゃないの?元主人公なのに最近は立ってるだけで、Prideの方が動いてる。もっと活躍してほしい。普通くん
Coranis
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Tiara wouldn't do anything noteworthy until the time of the game which the anime isn't at yet but also Pride is preventing the things that Tiara would have to deal with later. Also, the game protagonist/heroine in these are usually very bland and shallow characters that are dragged along by the plot more than they drive it. Usually they're just there to say the right things to unlock routes and maybe be the special magical thing that's needed to beat the final boss. I don't know if actual games of this type are like that but that's what the heroine of the game story usually is in these anime though they might be different in the anime's plot depending on their relationship with the MC. Still, you're right, it would be nice if Tiara got to be more of a character than that but I just don't see how with Pride handling everything. Maybe whatever's going on right now that changed the story so much can lead to it.
・ティアラが目立つのはゲームの時間軸に入ってからで、アニメはまだそこに達してない。しかもプライドが先回りして問題を潰してるからな
・この手のゲームのヒロインは大抵薄っぺらくて物語に流されるだけの存在という考察ができる
・ティアラにもっとキャラが欲しいのは同意だが、プライドが全部片付けてる以上難しい。今の改変が突破口になるかもな考察くん
Z000Burst
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I don't know if actual games of this type are like that but that's what the heroine of the game story usually is in these anime though they might be different in the anime's plot depending on their relationship with the MC. most Otome game heroine is usually as they are portrait in these, very nice girl who down to earth who pretty active in getting the guy or getting physical but the difference is that they aren't green tea bitches who only nice outside but not nice inside (Villainess Isekai is just absolutely fill with role swap instead of playing the role entirely straight)
実際の乙女ゲーがそうかは知らんけど、この手のヒロインは大体こう描かれるよね。素朴でいい子で、男を落とすのにも積極的。ただ外面だけいい腹黒女じゃない点が違う(悪役令嬢異世界ものは役をストレートに演じず、立場を入れ替えてばっかりだけどね)。普通くん
※green tea bitch=純真を装う腹黒女(中国ネット発)
NationalStrategy
Well we already deviated from the original game since episode 1, so I don't see why we can't have Tiara deviate and take more initiative as well.
てか1話からもう原作ゲームとズレてるじゃん?ならTiaraもズレてもっと自分から動いてもよくね!ギャル
Coranis
原文
The only reason is it's not in her (typical anime otome game heroine) character to do so without some outside force. I think Pride should be that force if she ever stops to think about it like the MC on Mobsekai had to but it doesn't seem like it's on her mind so maybe the antagonists will. Oh, or maybe the queen could. Would be cool if the queen remembered there's another princess and she needs some development too.
理由はただ一つ、外部から何かきっかけがないと動かんのがあの手の乙女ゲーヒロインの性やろ。Prideがそのきっかけになればええけどな、Mobsekaiの主人公みたいに。まあ本人は考えてなさそうやし敵役か女王がやってくれるかもな。女王が別の姫の存在思い出して成長させてくれたら熱いやん2ちゃん
juniorjaw
Because the game hasn't started. The Tiara in game is mostly stuck in a tower at this age thanks to OG Pride.
だってまだゲーム始まってないし!この年齢のゲーム版Tiara、OG Prideのせいでほぼ塔に閉じ込められてるんだよ…しんどい。感情くん
NeoAnkara
This guy have zero skill. Not in charisma and much less in negotiation. It just doesn't worth it really to help if all the guy can do is crying and throwing tantrum. To go to war for a guy with no merit. It doesn't sit well with me.
こいつスキルゼロだろ。カリスマもないし交渉力はもっとない。泣いて駄々こねるだけの奴のために戦争とか納得いかない。普通くん
Frontier246
Honestly a part of me feels bad for him that he just feels like a normal and kind of incompetent guy thrown into a cast of uber-competent people who all hate him. Through his own fault, granted, but I don't think he's really a bad person. But honestly it feels like this arc is just an excuse to show Pride hating someone, lead an army into battle, and prove how perfect a royal she is.
正直、彼には少し同情するのだ。有能すぎる者らに囲まれ憎まれる凡庸な男…自業自得だが悪人ではない。この章はPrideの王たる完全性を示す儀式に見える。中二病
duo99dusk
He's basically a romance route character thrown into the actual war storyline. He has nothing to offer.
要するに恋愛ルートのキャラを本筋の戦争パートに放り込んだだけって感じ。何の見せ場もない。普通くん
PeaceAlien
It's basically Pride doesn't want the bad events of the game to happen. Pride has said multiple times she hates this prince, so it has nothing to do with him. Pride is saving his people, not him.
要はPrideはゲームのバッドイベント起こしたくないだけやろ。王子嫌いって何度も言ってるし無関係。救ってるのは奴やなく民や。2ちゃん
mekerpan
And presumably what she does is of great benefit to her nation as well/
しかもたぶん、彼女のやってることって国にもめちゃくちゃ利益あるんだよな…!感情くん
Earlier-Today
Allying together makes them both stronger against the nation that very clearly has expansionist ideals and a focus on military power. They seem like the classic "might makes right" sort of country.
同盟を組めば、拡張主義で軍事力重視っぽいあの国に対して、どっちも強くなれる。典型的な「力こそ正義」系の国だね。普通くん
flightlessCat9
They're about to go to war but still haven't explain why teaming up with Copelandii instead is a bad thing.
戦に向かおうとしておるのに、なぜCopelandiiと組むのがまずいのか、未だ説明なしでござる。武士
Amauri14
I think that even without considering anything Copelandii will do to the population of the Chinensis Kingdom, Pride would never team up with them just because Evil Pride did so.
CopelandiiがChinensis Kingdomの民に何するか抜きにしても、Evil Prideが組んだからってPrideが奴らと組むのは絶対ない。無理。感情くん
BosuW
She not going to war for him, but for his country.
彼のためじゃなくて、彼の国のために参戦するんだよ。普通くん
S627
原文
Alright, so we're going to war. I know its nothing new, but I find it funny how everyone is concerned they'll have too many volunteers ready to rip and tear for Pride. Personally I hope we see her take the field at least once. Am i the only one that doesnt understand Pride's pure hate towards Cedric? His only crime is being dumb and prideful, I know he commited the unforgivable act of eating the food Pride made for her harem, but it hardly seems like something to dispise someone over. Gilbert was ready to sell state secrets, and Val was an actual criminal, why did they get off easy?
さて戦争やな。目新しくはないけど、志願者が多すぎて困るってのが草。ワイはPrideが一度は前線出るとこ見たいわ。てかPrideのCedricへの憎しみ、ワイだけ理解できん?バカでプライド高いだけやん。GilbertやValの方がよっぽど悪いのになんで軽く済んどるんや?2ちゃん
discuss-not-concuss
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only crime is being dumb and prideful There can only be one Pride. His stupidity is way more infuriating because he’s playing with the lives of his people by keeping his pride intact rather than begging for help. It’s understandable why Gilbert and Val did what they did since their circumstances required drastic actions, whereas Cedric has no justification for his flirtatious and legitimately carefree behaviour. Some of it was his acting, but under these circumstances, the percentage of non-acting should never be more than 0%.
罪は馬鹿でプライド高いこと。Prideは一人で十分。民の命より面子を優先するCedricが腹立つ。GilbertやValは事情があったけど、あの軽薄さは演技でも素は0%であるべき。普通くん
Earlier-Today
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Prideful stupidity appears to be her biggest pet peeve. And he's decked out to the nines in it and it's putting lives at risk - and she has a deep respect for life. Heck, most of what she does is to save lives either from death or from ruin. That's her core trait. And his prideful stupidity causes the opposite of what she's working so hard for and it does it through blatant carelessness. Makes perfect sense that he'd rub her the wrong way in the extreme.
傲慢なる愚かさこそ彼女の逆鱗なのだ。命を尊ぶ彼女の救済を、奴は慢心と不注意で闇へ堕とす。癇に障るのも必然。中二病
Amauri14
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I'm assuming that the Kingdom of Copelandii early attack on the Chinensis Kingdom is related to that scene with that fucker Adam. I know it wasn't going to happen, but when Pride grabbed Cedric , I was hoping for her to punch her face. Well, at least Pride reminded him how much she hates him while she was helping him. I wonder what exactly Pride asked both Arthur and Stale to do? I love the fact that Pride's biggest issue when asking for help from her troops, is the fact that they all want to volunteer. I don't know why, but to me, Pride looked especially beautiful in this scene.
CopelandiiのChinensis奇襲、クソAdam絡みやろ。PrideがCedric掴んだ時殴れ思ったわw 嫌い宣言草。兵全員志願も最高、Pride美人すぎ。2ちゃん
BosuW
"God give me patience because if you give me strength..." -Pride with anything concerning Cedric
「神様、忍耐をください。力をくれたら…」って感じの、Cedric絡みのPrideだね普通くん
froggyc19
The conversations with the boys fawning over Pride are getting really... Stale lol but for real, the story is really dragging. I'm still watching but this season really doesn't hold up to the first one.
Prideにデレる男どもの会話、ガチでマンネリ(Stale)やな草。話もダラダラしすぎ。まだ見てるけど、今期は1期に全然及ばんわ。2ちゃん
※Staleは登場人物名で「マンネリ」との言葉遊び
djthomp
I hope this isn't heading towards Pride turning from hating to tsun and the idiot being the new royal fiance. I think it was already the plan to have Arthur come with on the military excursion, but Pride should be sure to have him lay hands on the now insane king and see if his healing abilities can resolve that issue.
Prideが嫌悪からツンに変わって、あのバカが新しい婚約者になる流れじゃないといいな。Arthurの治癒で狂った王を治せるか試してほしい。普通くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
I’m curious what’s caused the invasion to be moved forward from when it was in the game? I thought her changes only related to the characters she interacted with, not necessarily set events. Perhaps that’s what she’s asking Arthur and Stale to look into?
ゲームより侵攻が前倒しになった原因なんやろ?彼女の変化って関わったキャラだけかと思ってたわ。ArthurとStaleに調べさせてるのそれか?2ちゃん
PeaceAlien
Well in the original game the invasion was in part with Pride. So with her not being part of it things changed, is my guess. I thought in the meeting with the queen, they seemed to be alluding to a spy leaking their alliance to make things advance sooner as well. But that might be me making things up.
原作ゲームでは侵攻にPrideも関与してたはず。彼女が外れたことで変化した、という考察ができる。スパイの伏線にも見えた。考察くん
Scythe351
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Yes but one of those set events would have to account for Pride negotiating with the enemy to later betray her allies when the battle came. It's probably happened earlier now because Pride never reached out to them. Also Pride essentially being a different character from the game version would mean that the mole is reporting different information. Since a proper alliance looks likely in this case, the enemy is planning the peace talks to prevent reinforcements.
確かに。でも固定イベントなら、Prideが敵と交渉して戦闘時に味方を裏切る流れもあるはず。今は別人だから内通者の報告も違い、敵は援軍阻止で和平交渉を仕掛けてるんだと思う。普通くん
Amauri14
My assumption is that it is related to that scene when Adam is told to act, which makes me assume that there might be a spy inside the Freesia Kingdom.
うちの予想だけど、Adamが「動け」って言われたシーン絡みじゃん?Freesia Kingdom内にスパイいるのかも!ギャル
Frontier246
I kind of assumed Arthur and Stale were both set to do something about Cedric because Pride doesn't trust him, but could whoever is behind this have some foreknowledge of the game as well to be able to interfere like this?
ArthurとStaleは、PrideがCedricを信用してないから動くと思ってたけど、黒幕もゲーム知識持ちで妨害できるのかな?普通くん
PeaceAlien
Romancing all the boys' route, so many ear whispers. Was there a heroine in the original game? What was there to stop Pride, or was everything evil lol
全男子攻略ルートで耳元囁き多すぎやろ。原作ゲームにヒロインおったん?Pride止める要素あったんか、全部邪悪で草2ちゃん
Frontier246
Tiara was the original Heroine who was meant to stop Heretical Pride and romance all the love interests.
Tiaraって元々、Heretical Prideを止めて攻略対象全員と恋愛する本来のヒロインだったんだよね!ギャル
Scythe351
Original love interest was her sister. Now she gets nobody and all the boys are obsessed with Pride.
元々の恋愛相手は妹の方だったのに。今や本人は誰にも相手にされず、男連中は全員Prideに夢中だよ。普通くん
PeaceAlien
She also gets her sister, Pride super harem ending
Pride、妹までゲットしてるじゃん!超ハーレムエンドやばい笑ギャル
Frontier246
原文
What headache has Cedric brought to Pride this time around? Hasn't he done enough!? Pride literally needs to talk her guards into not stopping her and also holding her back if necessary! She really has just about had it with him. But it's kind of understandable why Cedric is acting out and in a rush to get back to Hanazuo. I mean, his brother has seemingly gone insane and Chinensis is still going to get invaded and he feels utterly powerless. The worst part is that this is actually going off the rails from the game where this only happened AFTER Heretical Pride had betrayed them in their "alliance" to screw them all over. Cedric's just about given up but Pride can't abide by that, as a royal and as someone who has been battling her own inner demons and the game history she can't forget. She might hate him and everything he represents, she might never forgive him, but she'll still be his ally for the sake of his people. Don't worry, when Freesia puts their mind to something, they've got the special powers to make it happen fast, quick, and efficiently. Pride is leading reinforcements like a proper warrior princess! Of course she thinks she's inconveniencing the army when the only inconvenience is how they have to actually scale back from preventing the entire army from loyally following her into battle. That's their popular perfect Princess Pride. Arthur and Stale commiserate over getting Pride AMSR and still hating Cedric, having no intention of forgiving him...even though Arthur, in his own way, empathized with the state of despair he was in. But Stale doesn't have the luxury of forgiving, he hasn't even forgiven Gilbert or Val for what they did in season 1, but they'll both go along with what Pride wants. The only thing they're as loyal to as her is their friendship with each other.
Cedric、またPrideに面倒を持ち込んだな。彼女も限界だが事情は分かる。許せなくても民のために味方するし、ArthurとStaleも結局従う。悪くない。ドライおじ
NanDemoKnaives
Pride thinks no-one will join her, but poor Rodrick will have to go through everyone's application to choose the best knight force for her. Pride not realizing how much her whispering in Arthur and Stale's ears is doing to them, Stale was a little endearing as he was playing back the memory of his interaction with her lol.
Prideは誰も来ないと思ってるけど、Rodrickは全志願者を捌いて最強の騎士団を選ぶ羽目になりそう、というのが自分の考察。耳打ちがArthurとStaleにどれだけ効いてるか本人は気づいてないよね。彼女との会話を頭の中で反芻してたStale、ちょっと可愛かったw考察くん
MayonakaMadaraka
These knees don’t bend easily and my backs all locked up but I would most definitely break em all to bow before these majestic queens. 😤
この膝は簡単に曲がらんし腰もガチガチだけど、この威厳ある女王たちの前なら全部ぶっ壊してでもひれ伏すわ😤感情くん
Striking_Chard2420
I'm getting annoyed by the constant blushing from a single touch or even just in close proximity. And don't get me wrong I love Pride, but the incessant sasuga has to stop.
ちょっと触れた or 近いだけで毎回赤面するのイラつくわ。Prideは好きやけど、延々さすが連呼はもうやめろや。2ちゃん
Frontier246
She kind of has to speedrun a bit considering the timeline of the game has been thrown out of whack. It's like the only thing about this arc she didn't expect (other than how much she hates Cedric).
ゲームの時系列がめちゃくちゃで、彼女RTAするしかないよね。この章で予想外なのそれくらい…Cedric嫌いすぎる件以外は!感情くん
BBryant3rd
Uh oh she used his full government name lol.
あ、やばい。彼女、あいつのフルネームで呼んだじゃんw普通くん
oneevilchicken
Imma be honest. This show would have been sooooooo much better if pride was the original evil pride. Would be way more entertaining and better than the current plot which is summed up by pride straddling every guy she meets until they start mass glazing her.
正直に言うと、この作品はプライドが元の邪悪なプライドのままだったら、もっとずっと良くなってただろうな。今の、プライドが会う男を片っ端から手玉に取って絶賛されまくるだけの筋書きより、はるかに面白かったはずだ。ドライおじ
aquamarina123a
SS1 are the best anime of villian i've watch of, include Loop 7. Characters and theirs personal motion well built. Pride "Please k*ll me if you can" already put me fall in love with her. SS2 are the worst anime of villian i've watch of, these dudes keep crying wolf that swallow almost Episode of entire the Season. Pride keep blush for some reason.
S1はループ7も含めて、俺が観たヴィラン系アニメの中で最高だった。キャラも各々の動機もよく作り込まれてる。プライドの「殺せるなら殺してみろ」でもう惚れたわ。
でもS2は最悪。こいつらずっと大げさに騒いでばっかりでほぼ1シーズン丸々それ。プライドもなぜか赤面しっぱなしだし。普通くん
PersonalContest1423
原文
I'm kinda starting to hate this show. Imagine being a crown princess and bending over backwards to help an arrogant, whiny, stupid prince of an isolated nation with which you have 0 relations, volunteering your own soldiers to go fight and die on their behalf. She's basically looking her soldiers in the face and saying "go die for these strangers whos prince has been nothing but disrespectful to me and who didn't even really properly ask for help until I forced him to. Btw I don't even like the guy and there is 0 benefit to you or your country in this but it will definitely make us powerful new enemies" Also every character practically worshipping her is annoying af, takes up so much screen time.
正直この作品嫌いになりかけてる。無関係な孤立国の傲慢で幼稚な王子のために兵を死地へ送る判断、国益ゼロで敵だけ増やす構図だし、皆が彼女を崇拝する尺もキツい。考察くん
MjolnirDK
Eh, having your neighboring country at peace is actually a pretty big asset. Just look at the refuge situation in Europe right now for example. Also, something something buffer state.
まあ、隣国が平和なのって実際かなり大きいよね。今のヨーロッパの難民問題見ればわかるし。あと緩衝国ってやつ。普通くん
Yay295
An ally can't be a buffer state, because you're allies.
同盟国が緩衝国ってのは無理じゃない?だって味方同士じゃん!ギャル
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