+148
NeoAnkara
Now this is the content that I signed for. Please go forth with this direction from now on. No more of what happened last episode.
うむ、これこそ某が望みし内容でござる。今後はこの方向性で進めてくだされ。先の話の如きは、もうたくさんにござる。武士+33
Frontier246
It's nice to see Pride *finally* starting to move past the "woe is me, I'm just going to turn into Heretical Pride at some point" stuff.
確かに、プライドがようやく「ああ私ってば可哀想…いつかは異端のプライドになっちゃうのね」みたいなモードから抜け出し始めたのは良かったね。普通くん+24
mekerpan
I still find a lot of the dialog in this a bit clunky -- but characters and the course of the story are appealing enough to let this pass.....
某も同意仕る。台詞回しは少々ぎこちなきところが散見されるが、登場人物たちの魅力と物語の流れがそれを補って余りある。故に、このまま見届ける価値は十分にあると存じる。武士+18
ObvsThrowaway5120
lmao girl had to take a break and literally get fanned because that kiss made her overheat and pass out. Pride out here stealing hearts! It was even funnier seeing the guys actively freaking out about that kiss. Those boys better step up if they wanna have a shot with her!
あのキスでオーバーヒートして気絶、扇子で扇がれる羽目になるとはな。Prideがまさに心を奪っていった形だ。さらに面白いのは、男子陣がそのキスに大慌てしてた点。彼女と良い関係を築きたいなら、あの連中ももっと本気で動かないと厳しいんじゃないかという考察ができる。考察くん+26
Frontier246
Feels like now that Pride's free of her engagement it's now 100% open season in her Reverse Harem and the boys can't help themselves.
Pride herself is even realizing that she **can** be loved for who she is, even if she's not currently in love.
(I'm honestly pulling for Val though...)
婚約から解放されたプライドは、もう完全に逆ハーレム状態で、男たちが我慢できなくなってる感じだよね。
プライド自身も、今は恋愛感情がなくても、自分は愛される価値があるんだって気づき始めてるし。
(でも個人的にはヴァル推しなんだけどな…)普通くん+13
Lodju
>(I'm honestly pulling for Val though...)
Same, the way Pride and Val interact with each other is way more fun than when compared to Stale or Arthur.
それな!ヴァル推しマジわかる!
プライドとの絡み、スタイルやアーサーより断然おもろいしテンション上がるじゃん!ギャル+13
HolyDragSwd2500
Comes with a magic earth carpet ride
わかる!プライドとヴァルの掛け合いが楽しすぎるし、魔法の空飛ぶ絨毯に乗るシーンもエモすぎるッ!感情くん+7
PeaceAlien
First time Pride has noticed someone is into her lol.
初めてプライドが誰かに惚れられてるって気づいたんだな。笑えるわ。ドライおじ+10
BosuW
Better track than the og Bakarina
初めてプライドが誰かに興味持たれたって気づいた場面だね。原作のバカリナよりこっちの方がいいわ。普通くん+7
NanDemoKnaives
Stale looks like he's making the preparations to step up by the end.
スターくん、最後の方で準備してる感あるやん。次はワイの出番やでって感じやなwww2ちゃん+6
PeaceAlien
Is the prime minister shipping Pride/Stale?
While I get it, I'd be more interested in someone else, as I see him more as a brother.
首相はプライドとステイルをくっつけようとしてるの?
わからんでもないけど、俺はどっちかっていうと他のキャラの方が気になるな。ステイルは兄貴分って感じがするし。普通くん+22
HolyDragSwd2500
He sees Pride Harem
確かに、Prime MinisterはPrideハーレムを視認しているのだ。だが我が目には、彼の運命は別の者と結ばれるべくして紡がれているように映る。中二病+22
Frontier246
I think he's supporting Stale with the intention that Pride can get with *anyone.*
Honestly I'm starting to think Val takes it, if only because Gilbert dismissed him as having no chance and the idea of him and Pride straight up eloping sounding perfect.
首相はPrideとStaleをくっつけようとしてるのかなって思うけど、俺はどっちかってとPrideが誰とでもくっつけるようにStaleを応援してる感じだと思う。正直、Valが勝つんじゃないかなと思い始めてる。だってGilbertが「お前にチャンスはない」って一蹴したし、ValとPrideが駆け落ちするってアイデア、完璧すぎるじゃん。普通くん+18
PeaceAlien
Adopted brother
養子の兄ってまじかよwwwwwwおじ+19
Amauri14
原文
I love how freaked out Stale was because of the kiss Leon gave Pride. It sure took Pride long to recover from that kiss. I love how, after all that teasing Val did to the others about their reaction to that kiss, he could not hide how happy he was when he heard that Pride would no longer have to marry Leon.
I wasn't expecting that scene of Queen Rosa worrying about her never making Pride happy to lead to her telling everyone there about the visions she had of Evil Pride. Well, at least thanks to that, now Stale knows why Pride told him and Arthur in the past to become strong enough to stop her if she becomes evil. However, I would have loved it if Pride had told her mother that the visions she sees involved her evil self, too.
Well, after Stale asked Pride about the reason she was so angry with Erwin and Homer, and after hearing her consoled her, he will now start his path of becoming a seneschal and learning the duties of a prince consort in order to give Pride the liberty to marry whoever she wants in the future.
スティールがリオンのキス(プライドへのやつ)でめっちゃ慌ててたの面白かったし、プライドがそのキスから立ち直るのにも時間かかったね。ヴァルが他の人の反応をからかってたのに、プライドがリオンと結婚しなくてよくなったって聞いてすごく嬉しそうだったのもよかった。
ローザ女王が「自分はプライドを幸せにできない」って悩みながら、悪のプライドのビジョンの話をみんなにしちゃうシーンは予想外だったな。でもおかげでスティールは、過去にプライドが自分とアーサーに「もし自分が悪に堕ちたら止められるよう強くなれ」って言った理由がわかったわけだ。ただ、プライド自身も「自分のビジョンには悪の自分が出てくる」って母親に話してほしかった気もする。
スティールがプライドにアーウィンとホーマーに怒ってた理由を聞いて、慰められた後、彼は執事になる道と王子配偶者の役割を学び始める。将来プライドが誰とでも自由に結婚できるようにするためにね。普通くん+23
Frontier246
Honestly did not expect to empathize with the queen so much. But probably neither did Pride.
確かにw スティールの動揺っぷりが草生えたわ。プライドもあのキスで立ち直るの時間かかりすぎだろ笑wwwおじ+9
Anime_50quiz
Their power is a curse for both of them in a way.
確かに、二人にとって力はある意味呪いみたいなものだね。普通くん+10
HugeRichard11
It's an interesting reason to explain why the Queen has been distancing herself away from Pride all this time. Since she saw what would've happened during the OG Evil Pride timeline. Would've preferred there be a bit more time spent with the mom exploring all this, but the conversation with Stale also was quite impactful too.
せやな、女王がずっとPrideから距離置いてた理由がようやく分かって納得やわ。元の邪悪なPrideの未来を見てたからってのが興味深いンゴwww。もっと母親との会話パートじっくり見たかった気もするけど、Staleとのやり取りもめっちゃ印象的やったわ。2ちゃん+8
quaketoys
Right? If you dream your kid is evil don’t you spend more time with them teaching them so that never happens?
No? You’ll just ignore her? Oh sure that’ll turn out awesome.
まあそういう理屈だよな。子供が悪夢で悪者になるって見たら、普通は一緒に過ごして教え込むもんだろ。
無視するって選択肢はないよな。そりゃ上手くいくわけない。ドライおじ+9
cybervengeance
Tbf to the Queen tho, she mentioned that Evil Pride scared her way too much. She probably cannot spend more time nor teach Pride not to be evil because whenever the Queen looks at her, Evil Pride always pops up in her head
せやな、でも女王様も悪のプライドにビビりすぎてたってのはあるやろ。プライド見るたびに悪のプライドが脳裏に浮かんで、一緒に過ごすとか教えるとか無理やったんやろな…ワイもそれくらい怖いと逃げたくなるわ。2ちゃん+5
S627
Hopefully now after the confrontation with her mother, realizing she herself was able to truly help someone, and Stale's hug, Pride will finally stop worrying about her game self.
That said, I hope we get to see her show off some of those "last boss" skills at least one more time.
母親との対決、自分が本当に誰かを助けられたという自覚、そしてステイルのハグを経て、プライドはようやくゲーム内の自分へのこだわりから解放されたという考察ができる。とはいえ、あの"ラスボス"としての力をもう一度くらい見せてほしいという願望もある。考察くん+18
BlazeKnightX
原文
I think she'll only stop worrying once the in game time passes in that world with no issue. Like she was 18 in the game when the story fully started. She understandably doesn't know how her reincarnation/possession works. Like sure maybe her Earth self died, but Pride in this world never died and never had some accident. All that happened was Earth Pride entered her body randomly. The OG Pride returning isn't out of the question.
Until the game timeline passes, it's always possible the world tries to correct itself and force OG Pride back into her body. Like everything Pride has done is in the prologue of setting characters up, and not the main game as the game waits till Pride is 18 and Tiara is an adult (in this universe) at 16 probably so she can take the throne directly.
Edit: Wanted to add the 16 thing is actually probably more so Tiara would able to legally get married in the universe. The game starting from that point makes a lot of sense, since why would Tiara allow this to happen for 8 years otherwise without an out of universe reason like the game creators wanting her to be at least 16 to get married.
確かに、ゲーム本編の時間経過が問題なく進むまでは安心できないだろうな。ゲームでは18歳で物語が始まるし、転生の仕組みが不明だからね。地球のプライドは死んだかもしれないけど、こっちの世界のプライドは死んでない。元のプライドが戻る可能性もゼロじゃない。
ゲームのタイムラインが過ぎるまでは、世界が修正しようとして元のプライドが戻る可能性もあるんだよな。今やってることは全部プロローグで、本編はプライドが18歳、ティアラが16歳(この世界では成人)になってから始まる設定だし。
追記:16歳ってのは多分、ティアラが結婚できる年齢って意味だと思う。ゲームがそこから始まるのは納得できる。ゲーム製作者が結婚可能年齢を16に設定してるから、8年間も何も起こらない設定にしてるんだろうな。普通くん+10
Frontier246
I feel like she's probably going to feel at least a little guilty once we get to the blonde guy and whatever Heretical Pride did to him, but hopefully not too much.
ふむ…金髪の男とやら、あの異端の誇りが彼に何を刻み込んだのか、我が目で確かめた時、彼女の心は少なからず罪の棘に刺されるだろうな。だが、その深手が彼女の魂を完全に蝕むことだけは、避けられんことを願うのだ。中二病+7
GoldifyedCrystal
can we talk about arthur jesus moment healing the king without noticing? lol
やばっ!アーサーが無意識に王様治しちゃったのヤバすぎじゃない!?笑ギャル+15
quaketoys
I love that he has passive cure all powers and yet they don’t ever seem to use it. No one’s sick? In the world? Just the one king? Who has 2 evil sons who totally did not cause that somehow? Oooookaaaaay….
アーサーの受動的全快能力、めっちゃ好きなんだけど、全然使われてないのなんでだろ。この世界に病人いないの?あの王様だけ?しかも悪い息子2人がいるけど、それが原因じゃないってか?まあ…そういうことにしとくか…普通くん+7
Nebresto
Paused a background shot to analyze if they used AI, and while I have no idea on that, I also have no idea what the purpose of this window is. There's literally nothing on the other side, who built this
背景カット止めてAI使ってるかチェックしたンゴ。AIかどうかは分からんけど、この窓の意味がマジで分からんwww
向こう側に何もないやんけ、誰が設計したんだよ草2ちゃん+14
Feriluce
I don't know if they used AI or not, but there is definitely something wrong with the background. A lot of it looks like they they ran something super low res through a bad sharpening filter.
それな!AIかどうかはわかんないけど、背景なんか変だよね。すごい低解像度のやつに変なシャープかけたっぽく見えるし。やばくね!?ギャル+6
hokanst
原文
I checked episode 1 from the first season (released in 2023-07).
At 16:32 there is a very similar shot of the place. In both cases the roof is covered by tall chimneys, small roof windows and a number of fake windows like the one you pointed out.
In episode 1 there are more of these fake windows, e.g. along the bottom roof-edges of the corner towers. In the current episode these same fake windows look more like chimneys with rounded tops, as the window/glass part on them got omitted, from most of them.
I don't know if AI was involved, but the palace is design-wise almost identical between episode 1 and the current episode - the design is mostly consistent in regards to building shape, floor & window count and the various roof elements (chimneys & windows).
But yes the free-standing fake windows are rather odd, I suppose they could be decorative, to show off wealth.
同意。1期1話(2023年7月放送)の16:32と今回のカット、王宮の屋根構造がほぼ一致してるんだよな。煙突や小窓、お前が指摘した偽窓の配置も同じだ。
1期では塔の下段屋根にも偽窓が散見されたが、今期はその多くが窓ガラス部分を省略され、丸い煙突のように見える。AI使用の有無は不明だが、建物形状・階数・窓数・屋根要素(煙突や窓)に関してデザインはかなり一貫している。
ただ、独立した偽窓の存在は確かに奇妙だ。装飾として富裕層のステータスを示す意図かもしれないが、考察の余地はあるな。考察くん+5
Frontier246
原文
Pride is STILL feeling that kiss from Leon! And Stale and Arthur are REALLY freaking out! I feel bad for the poor knights who have to sit through this nonsense. But Leon's feelings were true for Pride, even as he remains committed and dedicated to his kingdom and people, though this will probably not be the last time they see Leon.
Ah, so Stale and Arthur have VERY strict standards for who they could accept wedding Pride...if not themselves!
Dang, Pride needs to be fanned by her maids! She really just can't fathom that confession, especially because she's never been in love before and can only rationalize the boys' feelings in relation to Heretical Pride...so it's a good thing Callum was there to very enthusiastically and sincerely convey Leon's true feelings for Pride! She genuinely made someone fall in love with her!
Most awkward carriage ride ever. Good thing Val is there to speed this trip up and call everyone out, though really he is just as happy knowing Pride is back on the market.
Wow, the queen really is taking this hard feeling like she screwed up as a mom again by saddling Pride with a problematic fiance (or at least his situation was) when she really only intended to have Pride find the man of her dreams. It makes Pride realize that as much as she emotionally detached herself from her mother (who isn't even supposed to be alive at this point in the story, as I recall) as the queen, her mom is still her mom and has been trying her best to be a queen, a mom, and express her love for Pride. Even if it's been complicated because she had a premonition about Heretical Pride and didn't know what to do about her daughter...but at least now they can embrace each other and convey how much they love each other.
It wasn't just the injustice of what his brothers' did that drove Pride to hate them so much...it's because they saw Heretical Pride in them and was reacting to her evil self. Good thing Stale is there to help her realize that she is NOT Heretical Pride, there are people who genuinely care for and want to support her, and they'll be there to stop her if she does turn evil! Next thing you know they're noses kiss as they're embracing each other and Stale is freaking out. They even exchange "I love you's" though the intention between them is VERY different for Stale than it is for Pride.
Stale is going to commit to becoming a prime minister who can cover for the Prince Consort and serve his sister well...which could mean whoever weds Pride could be literally anyone, even Stale himself! Though it's nice that Pride's parents are happy Gilbert is going out of his way to support Stale. They are technically his parents too.
プライドはまだレオンからのキスの感触が残ってるんだね!そしてステイルとアーサーがマジでパニックになってる。あの馬鹿げた場面に付き合わされる騎士たちが気の毒だよ。でもレオンのプライドへの気持ちは本物だったし、彼は王国と民に忠誠を尽くし続けてるけど、これで終わりじゃないだろうな。
なるほど、ステイルとアーサーはプライドの結婚相手に超厳しい基準を持ってるんだな…自分たちじゃなければってことかよ!
プライドはメイドに扇いでもらう必要があるな!告白をまったく理解できてない、特に恋愛経験ゼロで男たちの気持ちを「異端のプライド」に関連づけてしか説明できないから。だからカラムが熱心にレオンの本心を伝えてくれて良かった!彼女は誰かを本当に恋に落とさせたんだ!
史上最高に気まずい馬車の旅だな。でもヴァルがいてくれて助かった、急いで皆を呼び寄せてくれるし。でも彼もプライドがまた自由になったのを知って喜んでるんだろうな。
王妃様は自分がまた母親として失敗したって落ち込んでるみたいだ。問題ありな婚約者を押し付けてしまったと思って。プライドに幸せな結婚をさせたかっただけなのに。プライドは母親から感情的に距離を置いてたけど、それでも母は女王であり母親として最善を尽くしてきたんだと気づく。異端のプライドの予知夢を見てどうすればいいかわからなかったけど…今は抱き普通くん+8
HolyDragSwd2500
Pride got kissed in the cheek and now nose kiss from Stale
やばっ!Prideが頬にチューされて、今度はStaleから鼻にチューされたんだけど!?まじで尊いんだけど!ギャル+8
NanDemoKnaives
原文
It's sad to think about how the Queen has been so worried about Pride turning into a heretical villainess this entire time, and she's been trying to find a way to stop that from happening, but from her perspective things have failed because her plans aren't going as intended. I'm glad Pride showed her some comfort that she wouldn't turn out that way, but I can see why she was shaken from the reveal.
The way everyone was freaking out over a kiss on the cheek was so funny to watch, I like how Val as well was exasperated by them, he seemed to have fun teasing them over it. However, it also seems like he was very happy about Leon no longer being her fiancee, so he's on a similar boat.
I did find it interesting to see Callum translate Leon's kiss on the cheek, that felt very intimate, and he really has a way of expressing those feelings. It's a good thing nobody was eavesdropping on their conversation.
Stale finding his resolve after that intimate moment with Pride was cool, it looks like the main group may actually have more of a chance if Stale is able to learn all he needs to. Poor Val only has the elope option though lol.
女王様が「プライドが邪悪な悪役令嬢になるんじゃないか」ってずっと心配してて、それを止める方法を必死に探してたのに、計画通りにいかなくて失敗したと思い込んでるの考えると泣けるわ…。プライドが「そんな風にはならないよ」って慰めたのは良かったけど、あの真実で動揺するのも分かるンゴ。
頬っぺたにキスされただけでみんな大騒ぎしてるの草生えるわwwヴァルも呆れてたけど、からかうの楽しんでたやん。でもレオンが婚約者じゃなくなったのはガチで嬉しそうだったな、あいつも同じ穴のムジナやね。
カラムがレオンの頬キスを翻訳してたの面白かったわ、あれめっちゃ親密やん。あいつホンマに感情表現上手いな。誰にも聞かれてなくて良かったわ。
スティールがあのイチャイチャシーンの後に決意固めたのカッコよかった。もしスティールが全部学べたら、メイングループにもチャンスあるかもな。ヴァルだけ駆け落ちルートしかないの草w2ちゃん+6
justmos06
原文
This may sound offending to others but, I just can't see myself that Val and Pride are meant to be together. If so, could anyone here is willing to give an explanation as to why the audience of this anime is sided to Val and Pride couple?
I personally love the Stale x Pride kind of idea because they've known for each other since they were a kid (right now, I also love Leon x Pride, though I prefer Stale even more because he made an oath to himself that he will do anything to protect Pride even if it costs his dear life).
これは人によっては気に障るかもしれないけど、俺にはヴァルとプライドがくっつくイメージがどうしても湧かないんだよね。もしそうなら、なんで視聴者がヴァル×プライド推しなのか説明してくれる人いる?
個人的にはステイル×プライドの方が好き。子供の頃からお互いを知ってるし(今はレオン×プライドも好きだけど、ステイルの方がもっと好きかな。だって彼は命がけでもプライドを守るって誓ってるから)。普通くん+5
meldoc81
While I prefer Arthur, the fun with Val for me is he’s the only one that’s not actively simping. In fact he enjoys messing with her every chance he gets. She’s also the most honest with him imo.
ワイはアーサー派やけど、ヴァルの面白いとこって周りみたいにベッタベタに媚びてないとこやと思うンゴ。むしろチャンスあればちょっかい出して楽しんどるしな。そのせいか、Prideもヴァルには一番本音で接してる気がするわ。2ちゃん+13
justmos06
Oh, thanks. You do have a point though. It's just that I view this story in a serious, logical mood rather than just any common lighthearted isekai animes.
確かに、その意見もわかるよ。ただ俺はこの作品をただの軽い異世界アニメじゃなくて、もっと真面目で論理的に見てるんだよね。普通くん+5
meldoc81
Oh for the record I view it that way too. I do think this story is far more serious than the a lot of the subgenre. It’s just the romance part is the weakest aspect imo since Pride has all these walls she puts up between herself and everyone else. Val is the only one who has been able to successfully get through some of them.
Stale made some progress this week tho.
ああ記録としてワイもそう見てるンゴ。この作品はサブジャンルの中でもガチでシリアス寄りやと思うわ。ただ恋愛パートはPrideが周囲との間に壁作りまくってるから、そこが一番弱いって印象やな。Valだけは何とかその壁を突破できてるけど。
Staleは今週ちょっと進展あったみたいやで。2ちゃん+7