放送 2026-08-19更新 2026-08-22
Narlaw
Uuuuh... So the princess was role playing alone with her puppet Romain in episode 1?
うむ…第一話にて、姫は人形のロマンと一人で戯れておったのか。実に哀れなり。武士
Glittering-Tour5762
Same thoughts. I don't know how they will explain that.
せやな、ワイも同じこと思っとるわ。どう説明すんねんあれwww2ちゃん
darthvall
I mean, it's a wearable magical costume. To maintain her alibis, it should be easy to ask someone to wear the cardinal's costume to be seen together
つまり、これは装着可能な魔導衣装なのだ。我がアリバイを維持するためなら、枢機卿の衣装を誰かに着せて共に姿を見せるなど容易い業よな。中二病
RelativeMundane9045
"Hey pal, I need to go out for a bit. Can you wear the skin suit for a few hours?"
「ちょっと出かけてくるわ。数時間だけスキンスーツ着ててくれない?」普通くん
Kartoffelkamm
She probably has a maid for that.
メイド雇えばええやんwww2ちゃん
Mathmango
She can just brainwash any rando to for any appearances she wants. Even then, She's the princess and isn't expected to be seen often.
彼女は望む姿を幻惑するため、いかなる無名の者をも洗脳できるのだ。されど彼女は王女、滅多に姿を見せぬことが当然とされる存在。それもまた、我が運命の一環なのだ。中二病
Emi_Ibarazakiii
Can you wear the skin suit for a few hours?" Damn, at least buy me a drink first!
「スキンスーツを数時間着てくれない?」って、せめて最初に飲み物くらいおごってくれよ!普通くん
Aileran
You say seen together, but in every conversation they had previously, I cannot recall seeing them in a single frame together.
「一緒に映ってたって言うけど、今までの会話シーンで二人が同じフレームに映った記憶が一切ないンゴwww」2ちゃん
No-Cup-5891
Yeah I just checked since I had forgotten about the princess, they are not in the same frames. She probably rp'ed alone in case of spies, which given the premise of this season was a smart choice.
あー分かる!私も姫のこと忘れてたから確認したんだけど、同じ画面に映ってないっぽいじゃん?スパイ対策で一人でロールプレイしてたんだろうね。今シーズンの設定考えたら賢い選択だと思うんだけど、マジでやばくない!?ギャル
darthvall
There's another anime this season (Insipid prince) which kinda did the same, and it's indeed pretty absurd to see people RP-ing and talking to themselves in different role lol.
今季の『インシピッド・プリンス』も似たようなことしてたけど、マジで複数アカウントで自分とRPしてる人見ると正直ヤバすぎて笑うわwww感情くん
Niwaka_Samurai
They were seen together in one conversation when Alicia and the others arrived at Solsein.
アリシアたちがソルセインに到着したとき、彼らが一緒に会話しているところが見られたんだよ。普通くん
melindypants
I think the magic plant clay thing the twins explained for face masks - all you really need is the face, a wig, and clothes.
まじでそれな!顔とウィッグと服さえあれば誰でも変身できちゃうってことじゃん!双子が説明してた魔法植物の粘土パック、やばくない!?ギャル
ToasterLoverDeluxe
Seems about right... she is clearly a bit insane
うむ、至極尤もに候。彼女は明らかに少しばかり狂気を帯びておるでござるな。武士
Boris-_-Badenov
magic
まじで魔法とかやばくない!?✨ギャル
Hot-Log6283
That's some Gollum level stuff there, she even have her own "my pecioussss..."
ゴラム並みのヤバさだなッ!しかも彼女自身の「my precioussss...」まであるし、無理すぎるだろ!感情くん
djthomp
Surprise evil princess, though like Drel she clearly hasn't been entirely herself for a rather long time. The twins were doing surprisingly well this episode, but rushing the stage to find out more about the magic the evil princess is doing seems like a questionable plan. Alicia jumping straight into the scary red magic cracks to find out what's further down, meathead hero behavior for sure.
驚きの邪悪な姫だな。だがドレルと同様に、彼女もかなり長い間本当の自分じゃなかったのは明らかだ。今週の双子は意外と健闘してたが、邪悪な姫が使ってる魔法の正体を探るためにステージに突っ込むのは、疑問が残る作戦だと思われる。アリシアが真っ赤な不気味な魔法の裂け目に飛び込んで奥を調べようとするのは、まさに脳筋ヒーローの行動だな。考察くん
Suspicious-Value8260
Today has been a surprising delighting for deranged women with manic grin enjoyers such as myself. The shots of the princess with Vordin's eyes were awesome. I'm pretty sure Alicia has fully reached "fuck it we ball" mentality.
今日は、狂気じみた笑みの女性キャラが好きな俺みたいな人間には最高に嬉しい日だったよ。ヴォルディンの目をした王女のカットは最高だった。アリシアは完全に「もうどうにでもなれ」精神に到達したと思う。普通くん
Hartzilla2007
Alicia jumping straight into the scary red magic cracks to find out what's further down, meathead hero behavior for sure. Well like she said Clevatess would have just tossed her in there anyway...
アリシアが真っ赤な魔法の裂け目に真っ直ぐ飛び込んで奥を確かめるなんて、脳筋ヒーローすぎるだろ!でも彼女が言った通り、クレバテスなら結局放り込んでたんだろうな…それにしても無理すぎるッ!感情くん
Kyrrua
Klen has always treated her like a minion/slave. She just wanted the satisfaction of taking the initiative out of him for once 😄
クレンはいつも彼女を手下か奴隷みたいに扱ってたからな。彼女は一度でいいから主導権を握って優越感を得たかったんだろうな😄普通くん
DustyBot23
Considering one of the main reasons he summoned the dark tower was to create an opportunity for Alicia to free herself I’d say he does care about her whether he will admit or not. Zafthier even said as much that he has changed.
ワイ的には、ダークタワー召喚した理由の一つがアリシアに自由を与えるチャンスを作るためやったって考えると、アイツ絶対アリシアのこと気にかけてるやろwww自分で認めるかは別やけどな。ザフティエルも「変わった」って言うてたし、ガチでその通りやと思うわ。2ちゃん
BosuW
Surprise evil princess, though like Drel she clearly hasn't been entirely herself for a rather long time. We saw precisely the emotional journey that made Drell fall to the dark side. I wonder what Vordain told the princess?
悪役令嬢の登場は意外だったな。でもドレルと同じで、彼女もかなり長い間本当の自分じゃなかったんだろうね。ドレルが闇堕ちした感情の過程ははっきり描かれてたけど、ヴォーダインが王女に何を言ったのか気になるな。普通くん
ash-7831
meathead hero behavior for sure. She can get away with it since she's pseudo-immortal.
脳筋勇者の行動やでマジで。半不死身やから許されてるだけやんwww2ちゃん
Earlier-Today
I think "questionable plan" should be the name of the twins' music group. Everything they do seems short-sighted or driven by their short temper.
「questionable plan」って双子の音楽グループ名にすべきじゃね?笑 彼らのやること全部、めっちゃ短絡的だし短気に振り回されてる感がやばくない?ギャル
Emi_Ibarazakiii
Alicia jumping straight into the scary red magic cracks to find out what's further down, meathead hero behavior for sure. Love how she justifies it hah.
アリシアが真っ赤な魔術の裂け目に真っ直ぐ飛び込んでいくの、完全に脳筋ヒーローすぎるだろッ!しかも自分で正当化してるとこ最高に笑うわww感情くん
Parodizer1
I'm glad the twins aren't total meatheads. A lesser show would just portray them as idiots. Also pretty typical for Alicia. Would not have predicted the princess. Also for once the priest wasn't evil!
双子がただの脳筋じゃなくてよかったよ。下手な作品なら完全なバカとして描くところだしね。アリシアらしいっちゃらしいけど、王女がそうだったのは予想外だったわ。それに、今回は珍しく神父が悪役じゃなかったのも良かった!普通くん
ogaat
The hero Alicia in Clevatess is easily my favorite depiction of the trials a hero would endure and how a hero would act. Great world and character building here.
クレバテスのアリシア、マジで最高のヒーロー描写すぎるッ!英雄が背負う試練の描き方も、その時の行動も完璧。世界観もキャラ造形も優勝してるわ。感情くん
Mysteries67
What would hero Alicia do
アリシア様ならどうするかって?ワイの心の師匠やでホンマにwww2ちゃん
Falsus
Probably die, or at least get brutalized before winning.
多分死ぬわw 勝つ前にボコボコにされるだろなwwwwおじ
DandadanAsia
Himmel?
ヒンメル!?まじで出てきたの!?やばい、感動で泣いた…!!感情くん
Granito_Rey
Himmel would unironically look up to Alicia. But that's fine, she would also undoubtedly look up to him. Because real recognize real.
ヒンメルは本気でアリシアを尊敬してただろうな。でもそれでいいんだよ、彼女も間違いなく彼を尊敬してたはずだから。だって本物は本物を認めるからね。普通くん
Suspicious-Value8260
When two characters are both so GOATed they both genuinely look up to and admire each other.
二人とも本当にすごいからこそ、互いに尊敬し合ってるんだろうな。悪くない関係だよ。ドライおじ
towardselysium
Alicia is the hero of legend. A badass warrior who survives waves of deadly monsters triumphantly surviving. Himmel is the hero of fairytails. The kind quirky patient hero who always follows his heart on the path of justice.
アリシアは伝説の英雄だな。死のモンスターの大群を乗り越えて勝利し続ける、めちゃくちゃ強い戦士。ヒンメルは童話の英雄だね。優しくて変わり者で、忍耐強い、いつも心のままに正義の道を進む英雄って感じ。普通くん
Uhhh_what555476384
Alicia is the norse warrior holding a bridge against 1000 Saxons (real event).
アリシアってまじでノルウェーの戦士じゃん!1000人のサクソン人相手に橋を守り抜いた実在のエピソードとかやばくない!?ギャル
aOe_007
Who's that?
誰だこれ?気になりすぎるッ!感情くん
Frostbitten_Moose
I mean, Himmel would probably also do it. After all, it's a part of the dungeon he hasn't explored yet.
まあ、ヒンメルもたぶんやるだろうね。だって、まだ探索してないダンジョンの一部だしな。普通くん
tripleaamin
I think what makes her great is that she acts as a hero should in many works. But her trials and what she has to endure make her payoff so far so good. A lot of the time with the hero-type characters its very predictable and doesn't feel earned. The execution here is outstanding.
ワイ的には彼女が英雄らしく振る舞うのがええんやけど、試練や乗り越える苦難があるからこそ報われる瞬間がガチで映えるンゴwww 英雄タイプって大抵予想通りで「お前それで報われるんか?」ってなるけど、ここの演出は別格やわ。2ちゃん
ogaat
原文
In many stories, the hero's trials leave them at best grimy but with no real injuries or trauma. Here, Alicia has been killed and revived, blind in one eye, suffers broken bones and other physical mutilation which hurts and knows she is just a puppet of a greater power. Despite this, she has managed to retain her self-worth and empathy for others, as well as the willpower to sacrifice herself for the greater good. Just incredible depiction.
多くの物語では、主人公の試練はせいぜい汚れる程度で、本当の怪我やトラウマはないことが多い。でもここでは、アリシアは殺されて蘇り、片目を失明し、骨折やその他の身体的な損傷に苦しみながら、自分がより大きな力の操り人形に過ぎないと知っている。それでも彼女は自己価値と他者への共感を保ち、より大きな善のために自分を犠牲にする意志を持ち続けている。本当に素晴らしい描写だと思う。普通くん
baseballlover723
原文
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towardselysium
"I am the hero because the plot says so" vs "Screw you I'm a hero and I'll prove it or die trying"
「プロットがそう言ってるから主人公な」vs「ふざけんな、ワイが主人公や、証明してやるわ、死ぬ気でな」2ちゃん
Ralathar44
原文
But something something school arc! jkjk, if anything they perfectly setup the facade of a school arc and then used that setting to get even deeper into the dark fantasy. That rat squish was almost on par with the cliff dive and happened right after the growing plant mooshed her. And then what do she do? Dive right back in as soon as she healed enough and sent messages. Because that's what heroes do.
でも学校編だとか何とか言うけどさ!冗談冗談、むしろ学校編の見せかけを完璧に仕込んで、その設定でダークファンタジーをもっと深く掘り下げた感じだよね。あのネズミ潰しは崖ダイブに匹敵するレベルで、しかも成長した植物に潰された直後に起きたんだぜ。それで彼女はどうした?十分に回復したらすぐにまた潜り込んで、メッセージ送ってたじゃん。それがヒーローのやることだよね。普通くん
BosuW
Alicia and [character from Sentenced to be a Hero ] Kivia being absolutely shining examples of female characters going above and beyond for the heroic ideal. I love them both so much.
アリシアと「Sentenced to be a Hero」のキヴィア、二人ともヒロイックな理想を超えて輝く女性キャラの最高峰だよ!二人とも愛しすぎるッ!優勝!感情くん
ogaat
Great example of the other heroine. I am biased slightly more towards Alicia but totally agree.
まじでわかる!もう一人のヒロインの良さがめっちゃ出てるじゃん!私はちょっとアリシア寄りなんだけど、それでも完全同意だわ笑ギャル
BosuW
Tbf, Redacted's heroic journey has only just begun (though I firmly believe she deserves the title just on the start alone). I expect great things from her in the sequel.
正直言うと、Redactedの英雄としての旅はまだ始まったばかりだと思う(でも、最初の時点で十分その称号に値すると思うけどね)。続編での彼女の活躍に期待してるよ。普通くん
ogaat
Cheers to that. That too is a very good show.
それな!そのアニメもまじで神だよね!ギャル
Suspicious-Value8260
原文
[Sentenced to be a Hero] By the end of the show Kivia became by far my favorite and the most compelling character in it. The art and animation were consistently good but most of the story and character writing didn't really feel compelling. WIth the exception of Kivia whose climax with her uncle in the last episode had absolutely phenomal direction. It really felt like she became the actual main character by the end. Plus I give her huge props for being one of the very few female physical fighters in anime who were actually depicted as visibly muscular.
【処刑された勇者】見終わったけどキヴィアがぶっちぎりで一番好きやったわ。作画は安定してたけどストーリーとキャラ描写は正直ピンとこんかったンゴ。ただキヴィアだけは別格で、最終話の叔父との対決は演出ガチで神がかってた。気付いたら実質主人公やったやん。あと女性格闘キャラでちゃんと筋肉描かれてるの珍しいからそこも加点やで。2ちゃん
BosuW
原文
[Sentenced to be a Hero] Very much agreed. The rest of the story was compelling enough, but felt rather simple. Her arc being the most complex because of how hard it tests her easily catapults her to the top ranks in that anime's cast. Absolutely appreciated her character design being visibly beefy too. Honestly Alicia could use some of that ngl, but the anime/manga industry is truly tyrannical when it comes to allowing female characters who should be muscular to actually look the part.
[勇者に処刑された] その通りだな。物語全体は十分魅力的だったが、やや単純に感じられた。彼女のアークが最も複雑だったのは、試練の厳しさゆえに彼女をそのアニメのキャスト内トップクラスに押し上げたからだ。彼女のキャラデザが明らかにがっしりしているのも評価したい。正直アリシアにもその要素があれば良かったが、アニメ・マンガ業界は筋肉質であるべき女性キャラを実際にそう描くことに関しては本当に専制的だな。考察くん
Suspicious-Value8260
Yeah, Alicia has constantly surprised me with how much of a compelling, well-executed character she is, probably the best in the series. Also, not the end all be all, but I do apreciate the story for making a classic dark fantasy story with the typical hero archetype MC being a woman. I feel like that particular combination is quite rare to see.
アリシアは本当に一貫して驚かせてくれるよ。魅力的で完成度の高いキャラで、おそらくシリーズで一番だと思う。あと、それが全てじゃないけど、典型的なヒーロー型主人公が女性っていうクラシックなダークファンタジーを描いてくれてるのは評価してるね。この組み合わせは結構珍しい気がする。普通くん
Galaxy40k
My favorite female protagonist in anime easy, Alicia the GOAT
アリシアは文句なしにワイの最強ヒロインやわ、ガチでGOATやろ2ちゃん
bananeeek
Well... Now I feel a little bit stupid for worrying about Alicia. She literally chose trouble the moment she recovered. But I have to admit that was pretty badass.
うーん…アリシアのこと心配してた自分がちょっとバカみたいだわ。回復した瞬間からトラブルに突っ込んでいくんだもんな。でも正直、あれはかなりかっこよかったと思う。普通くん
AceSoldia
Lol she has completely fallen into Klen's mindset 😂. No weapon. Not in her regular body...just theories and no back up.
笑ったwww完全にクレンの思考に染まってるじゃん😂武器なし。いつもの体ですらない…理論だけあって裏付けゼロ。無理すぎるだろ!感情くん
justsyr
"Going into deadly situations is what a hero do!" "Well that's what Klen would say before throwing me down there" She just rolls with it now lol.
「命がけの場に飛び込むのがヒーローのやることじゃん!」「まあクレンが私をそこに放り込む前に言う台詞なんだけどね」もう彼女もそれに慣れちゃってるんだけど笑ギャル
Shimaru33
Missed chance to say "That's what Klen would have wanted".
「クレンが望んだことだ」って言うチャンス逃したの!?無理すぎるだろッ!感情くん
DivinityPen
She went to the Markiplier School for Taking Damage. "I'm not a masochist, I just wanna see if my body can handle it."
マークプライヤー式ダメージ耐性学校出身じゃん!「ドMとかじゃなくて、ただ自分の体がどこまで耐えられるか見たいだけ」ってやつ笑 まじそれな!ギャル
dinliner08
"oh hey, i'm healed a little bit! well then, time for more suffering!"
おお、ちょっと回復した!よし、じゃあまた苦しむ時間だ!感情くん
BosuW
"My HP bar is now only orange instead of red. Good enough for the dungeon Boss!"
HPバーが赤じゃなくてオレンジになったんだがw これでダンジョンボスに挑めるわwwwwおじ
Mr_Yod
She likes to play on Asian difficulty. I wonder if she'll defeat Vordein with Emotional Damage™. =)
彼女はアジアンディフィカルティで遊ぶのが好きみたいだね。エモーショナルダメージでヴォルデインを倒せるのか気になるな。(笑)普通くん
Boris-_-Badenov
slightly recovered
ちょっと回復した……まだ完全じゃないけどな。でも一歩前進だ!感情くん
BosuW
"Book of Toah! Give me tougher battles!"
ブック・オブ・トア!もっと手応えのある戦いを寄越せや!2ちゃん
Mr_Yod
"And she kept asking for tougher battles and more suffering!" — Book of Toah, in therapy =)
「しかもあの子、もっと強い敵と戦いたいとか、もっと苦しみたいとか言い続けてたんだよ!」— トアの書、セラピー中=)まじそれな笑ギャル
Aerodynamic41
"Hey, how to make sure we look like an evil cult?" "By wearing really conspicuous hooded robes."
「悪のカルトっぽく見せるにはどうすりゃええんや?」「派手なフード付きローブ着るのが一番やろwww」2ちゃん
SingaWong
It's a classic "evil cult" trope but I like how the twins have disguises while Edison's like: "I'll just show up as myself with a parasitic Dark Beast in my head".
典型的な「邪悪なカルト」のパターンだけど、双子が変装してるのにエジソンは「寄生する魔獣を頭に宿したまま素顔で現れるわ」って感じなのが面白いね。普通くん
BosuW
"You just walk in like you belong." The conspicuous robes really pulling in clutch here, you can't know who's who until you look them in their eyes lol
「堂々と歩けばバレないじゃん!」ってやつね笑 目立つローブがまじで神ってるんだけど、目見るまで誰だか分かんないのやばくね!?笑ギャル
TheBusStop12
I mean, what's the point of joining an evil secret cult if you don't get to wear hooded robes to the meetings. That like the main reason anyone would join
わかるわかる!悪の秘密結社に入る意味って、集会でフード付きローブ着ることだよね!それがメインの理由だろ!感情くん
NoNameSwitzerland
Also you can buy them in bulk and there is no discrimination because someone has more expensive clothing.
しかもまとめ買いできるし、高い服着てる人と差別されたりもしないんだよね。普通くん
Mysteries67
Though on the princess, the oversized robes looks like a kigurumi pajamas.
王女の超大振りローブ、キグルミパジャマみたいで草www2ちゃん
guynumbers
Remember when people were worried that this would be a filler school arc 😂
覚えてる?みんな学校編でサボり入るって心配してたじゃん😂それが全然そんなことなくてまじ安心したんだけど!ギャル
SingaWong
It's a classic case of "more than meets the eye". Clevatess hasn't "lost" it's darker edge.
「見た目以上に中身がある」ってやつだよな。クレバテスはダークな魅力を失ったわけじゃないんだよ!むしろ奥深さが増してる気がするッ!感情くん
tripleaamin
It's so weird. S1 was great and you would think that good faith would earn them at least the benefit of the doubt. Hell halfway into episode 2 of S2, you can tell this is very much the same show from S1.
本当に変だよね。S1は最高だったし、その信用で少なくとも疑う余地は与えられると思ってたよ。実際S2の2話の途中まで見れば、S1と同じ作品だってはっきりわかるじゃん。普通くん
Any-Calligrapher2866
This is wilder than S1 atp. Loredropping is so good this season.
まじでS1よりヤバくない!?今期の伏線回収やばくね!?ギャル
redJackal222
I mean I didn't think it would be filler but they abandoned the pretend to be a student thing way sooner than I would have thought.
まあ、フィラーだとは思わなかったけど、学生のふりをする展開が思ったよりずっと早く終わったね。普通くん
ash-7831
They're more used to giving up on things rather than having hope. They'd rather be pessimistic than disappointed.
まじわかる!希望持つより最初から諦める方が楽だって思ってる感じじゃん?失望するくらいなら最初から期待しない方がいいって考えなんだよね〜ギャル
melindypants
I didn't think it'd be filler nor did I expect it to be bad, I just thought the "school" part of it was a weird choice but it barely had anything to do with school life in the end lol
フィラーだとも思わなかったし、悪いとも思ってなかったんだ。ただ「学校」って部分が変な選択だなと思っただけで、結局学校生活とはあんまり関係なかったよね笑普通くん
kebb0
Yep. I questioned a comment in an earlier thread, like the first or second episode, who was writing this off as a filler school arc. I've been remembering that comment since because I'm petty. After the end of this episode I was considering going back to it and reply again with a "I TOLD YOU SO" comment or similar.
せやな。ワイも最初の数話で「ただの学園編の消化試合やろ」って言うてたコメントに突っ込んだんや。覚えてるわ、ワイも意地悪やからな。今回の話終わった後、あのコメントに戻って「言わんこっちゃない」って返信しようか本気で考えたわwww2ちゃん
mekerpan
I also never EVER expected this to be a "typical school arc" -- and find it hard to understand how anyone paying even half attention to the series could have thought this.
まさか典型的な学園編になるとは思わなかったよ。シリーズを半分でもちゃんと見てれば、そうは思えないはずだと思うけどな。普通くん
mekerpan
People were still saying that today (not sure if they saw this episode yet). People jumping to conclusions at the tip of a hat and pigeonholing shows (and often dismissing them) really seems to be a thing with way too many anime watchers. {sigh}
今日もまだ言ってる人がいるんだな(このエピソード見てるかは不明だが)。先入観だけで結論に飛びついて、作品を型にはめて評価する(しかも安易に切り捨てる)傾向は、アニメ視聴者に多いのは確かだな。考察するにしても、まずは全話視聴してから判断するのが筋だと思うんだが。考察くん
goreverminski
I actually think it's been too much this season 😆 I could do with a slower pace and less weird lore. I like it still but the first season was damn perfect in that way.
今シーズンはやりすぎだと思うよ😆 もう少しゆっくりしたペースで、変な設定は減らしてほしいかな。それでも好きだけど、1期はその点で完璧だったんだよね。普通くん
ash-7831
Some of them might still insist it is, because they don't want to admit they were wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if they're secretly hoping this will come crashing down in the last episode.
まだ「これはそうだ」って言い張る奴もいるかもな。だって自分が間違ってたって認めたくないんだろ。最終話で盛大に爆発してくれないかと密かに願ってる連中がいても全然驚かないわ。感情くん
Suspicious-Value8260
God forbid a series take its time setting up a new location and characters before hitting the gas
シリーズが新しい場所やキャラクターをじっくり紹介してから本題に入るなんて、許されないのかよ。普通くん
BosuW
It didn't even take that long.
長くもなかったやんwww2ちゃん
goreverminski
The last few episodes have been too fast, conversely. Bit uneven so far. Love the show, though.
最近の数話、逆に展開速すぎない?ちょっとバランス悪い気がする。でも、この作品は好きだよ!感情くん
ash-7831
That's what you call slow? I thought it was moderately paced.
それを遅いって言うのか?俺は中くらいのペースだと思ったけどな。普通くん
excluded
If evil why hot?
悪なのに何でこんなに可愛いんやwww2ちゃん
Time_Significance
Last week, I commented that the princess would show up soon since she hasn't been seen since the start of the season but has a place in the ED, meaning she'll probably be joining Alicia and Naie as another girl that this series will be tormenting. Never expected she'll actually be the tormentor instead.
先週、シーズン開始から姿を見せてないけどEDに登場してるから、アリシアやナイエみたいにこの作品に弄ばれる女の子として仲間入りするんじゃないかってコメントしたんだよね。まさか彼女が逆に弄る側になるとは思わなかった。普通くん
Suspicious-Value8260
Well she definitely has some past torment and I'm also still not entirely sure whether she is being controlled to some degree by Vordin.
まじで彼女めっちゃ過去にトラウマありそうじゃん!?てかまだヴォルディンに操られてるかどうかもハッキリしない感じやばくね!?ギャル
Kyrrua
Considering her entire personality changed when she made Vordin appear (and got red eyes) She is 100% being controlled. Which makes me wonder if her mother chose death also because she didn't want to be a puppet or that her family was under the threat of Vordin. Must also be why Milea while being the dean said that the book of solsein was passed down through multiple generation of her family.
ヴォルディンを召喚した際(そして赤い目になった時)彼女の人格が完全に変わったことを考えると、100%何かに操られていると考察できる。そして、彼女の母が死を選んだのも、操り人形になりたくなかったからか、あるいは家族がヴォルディンの脅威に晒されていたからではないかと思われる。ミレアが学長でありながら、ソルセインの書が彼女の家系に何世代にも渡って受け継がれてきたと言ったのも、この伏線と繋がっている可能性が高い。考察くん
Hot-Log6283
I thought it was basically the same as the book of the forge, relating to her Allozar instead.
本編の鍛冶の書とほぼ同じやと思てたわ。ただし彼女のアロザー関連やったんやな。2ちゃん
shad79
Yeah, Milea looks pretty alluring with those red eyes , it's a shame though that she acts like a total psycho ... But maybe Alicia or Klen (or both of them) will be able to somehow correct her?
ミレアの赤い目は確かに魅力的だね。ただ、完全にサイコな感じなのが残念だけど…でもアリシアかクレン(あるいは二人とも)が何とか矯正してくれるかもしれないかな?普通くん
TheSkuf
I know she's murdered a ton of people. I know she's working with a dark lord who's willing to temple over countless lives for the sake of power. I know we just watched her kill a man and tear his skin off to wear it. But guys, hear me out! I can fix her
彼女が大量殺人を犯してきたこと、力のために無数の命を踏みにじる闇の主と手を組んでいること、そして今さっき男を殺してその皮を剥いで着ているところを見たことも分かってる。でも待ってくれ、俺には彼女を更生させる可能性があるという考察ができるんだ。考察くん
Frostbitten_Moose
Sounds like the sort of thing a prospective change of clothes would say.
着替えようとしてるやつが言いそうなことだな。普通くん
Cychi132
Wait I didnt make the connection that the Dean was her wearing the skinsuit on the stage, I thought the princess went up after him. Makes the scene even crazier
待って、まさか学園長がステージでスキンスーツ着て彼女だったって気づかなかった!てっきり王女が彼の後に上がったと思ってた。このシーン、さらにやばすぎるだろッ!感情くん
Suspicious-Value8260
The truly fucked up thing is being evil made her hotter . I didn't think much of her in her first appearance, but seeing her this episode with that manic energy and grin accompanied by the demonic eyes was like WOAH!
本当にやばいのは、悪堕ちしたせいで彼女がより魅力的になったことだな。初登場時はそこまで気にしてなかったけど、今回のエピソードで見せた狂気じみたエネルギーと笑顔、それに悪魔的な目が合わさると「うわっ!」って感じだったわ。普通くん
TiamatRuneaid
Wait for her true outfit reveal under the robe - it will have some crazy good design!
彼女のローブの下の本当の衣装公開を待ってくれ - 絶対ヤバいレベルのデザインになるぞ!感情くん
NoNameSwitzerland
Is she old enough to hope for a sexy design? Maybe I can fix her?
彼女ってセクシーなデザインを期待できる年齢なのかな?もしかして俺が修正できるかも?普通くん
Falsus
原文
It's kinda hard to pin point the time line but she was 14 years old when she took over the academy as both the Chairwoman and the Dean. We also know that Naie talked about a mirror which was definitely related to Milea. The big question is if she did those experiments on students even before she had full control over the academy. I am inclined to say no because it would be a needless risk since I assume the OG Romain would have objected and since she was going to take over him regardless I think that would have been prio 1 in my opinion. If we assume that Naie was a first year at the same time that this happened then she would have graduated 3 years later making Milea 17. Then she brings forths the crests pretty much immediately which I think is unlikely, so give that a gap year of one so she is 18 at this moment. Naie joins the army at the same time and they are most likely preparing for their invasion right now. We do know that at the very least there is a 2nd year student with crests since Ray, Merry Merry and Andrew seems to be first years and they are the only crest users in this class which seems to be first years due to teaching basic magic with the wand. There might be other first year classes but there is no indication of that. So that makes Milea 20 at the youngest. I think it's likelier she is 21 though, since with how low success rate the crystal surgery was stated to have I assume it took a while before they had their first success, and we don't know if that was Naie, Maynard or someone else.
時系列特定するのムズいけど、ミレアが学院乗っ取った時14歳やったんやな。ナイエが鏡の話してたのは確実にミレア関連やろ。問題は完全に掌握する前から学生に実験してたかやけど、ワイはノーやと思うわ。旧ロマンが反対するやろうし、リスク冒す価値ないしな。そもそも乗っ取るのが優先やろ。
仮にナイエが同時期に1年生やったら3年後に卒業でミレア17歳。そこからすぐ紋章出すのは不自然やから1年空けて18歳。ナイエが軍入るのも同時期で、今は侵攻準備中やろ。紋章持ちの2年生がおるのは確定やねん。レイ、メリー・メリー、アンドリューは1年生やし、このクラスは杖で基本魔法教えてるから1年生やろ。他の1年クラスがおる可能性はあるけど、その兆候はない。
つまりミレアは最低でも20歳。結晶手術の成功率が低いって言われてたから、最初の成功まで時間かかったやろうし、それがナイエかメイナードか他の誰かもわからん。ワイ的には21歳が濃厚やと思うわ。2ちゃん
Mathmango
I recall the timeline of Milea's mom committing suicide when she was 4 years old, which would put her at 18-ish in present time.
ミレアの母が自殺したのは彼女が4歳の時で、現在のミレアは18歳くらいになるって覚えてるよ。普通くん
ash-7831
To make you feel conflicted when she's finally beaten.
やばくない!?最後に倒された時、こっちまで複雑な気持ちになっちゃうんだけど!笑ギャル
KHlover
Hot because evil
「悪役がいいから人気なんだよね。」普通くん
AceSoldia
Damn. I didn't expect the princess involvement. Removing all the skin off of the Dean was wild
まじでやばくね!?姫が絡んでくるの予想外すぎたんだけど笑 学部長の皮全部剥ぐとかヤバすぎじゃない?ギャル
good_wolf_1999
This is one hell of way to explain why she has been nowhere to be seen for awhile
彼女がしばらく姿を見せなかった理由の説明としては、かなり衝撃的な方法だね。普通くん
dinliner08
which makes me wonder, we were shown in first episode that both her and the Dean were having a conversation in the same room, what the hell was that? does the skin can be wear by anyone other than her? and if that's the case, what's the point of that scene considering there isn't any other people in that room for them to put an act like that?
初回で彼女と院長が同じ部屋で会話してた描写があったけど、あれは何だったんだろうな。スキンは彼女以外も着用可能なのか?もしそうなら、あの部屋には他に人がいないのに、わざわざ芝居をする意味がどこにあるんだ?という考察ができる。制作陣の意図が気になるな。考察くん