AutoLovepon+689
刃の向く先
堀北と宝泉の交渉が始まった。プライベートポイントを出すことを協力の条件とする宝泉に対し、堀北は対等な関係を譲らない。そんななか、七瀬は綾小路から教わった情報を伝えて宝泉とさらなる交渉をしようとする。
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WhoiusBarrel
原文
4 seasons in and Horikita is still blindly following a hostile person in the hopes of having a conducive discussion, when they literally had a dispute moments ago. That haircut didn't change a thing. Damn as if having the find the White Room student wasn't enough, now other selected students are also given incentive to get Ayanokouji expelled. Kinda expected Hosen to team up with him as well though I do wonder how that'll fair in the long run.
4シーズンも経ったのに、堀北は相変わらず敵対的な相手に盲目的について行って、さっきまで揉めてたのに話し合いができると思ってるんだな。あの髪型、何も変わってなかったわ。 ホワイトルームの生徒を探すだけでも大変なのに、今度は他の選ばれた生徒たちにも綾小路を退学させるインセンティブが与えられるのかよ。宝泉が彼と組むのは予想してたけど、長期的にどうなるか気になるな。普通くん+257
Beginning-Hope-2600
原文
Horikita's felt . . . a bit more airheaded and naive these episodes than how she was at the end of the previous season. She's certainly taken on the mantle of class leader now, but I think her writing has regressed her a bit. Part of that is because the school is increasingly aware of the fact that Ayanokoji is the real leader and he's stepping into the limelight, but It's insane to see her still making the same mistakes she's made over and over again and has now gotten called out for multiple times. Obviously she wasn't going to sus out the plot to expel ayanokoji, but you would think she can handle basic negotiations with first year students by now, meanwhile Nanase and Hosen absolutely schooled her.
堀北、今期ちょっとアホの子すぎへん?前シーズン終盤のあの成長した感じどこいったんや。クラスリーダーとしての自覚はあるっぽいけど、脚本が退化させてる気がするわ。 まあ学校側が綾小路が真のリーダーって気づき始めてて、彼が表に出てきてるってのもあるけどさ。それにしても同じミス繰り返して何度も指摘されてるのにまだやってるの草。綾小路追放の陰謀までは気づかんでも、1年生との交渉くらいはもうできろやと思うわ。七瀬と宝泉に完全にやり込められててワロタ。2ちゃん+89
Crowleyer
I agree with another guy, she handled it just fine. She is growing overall.  I think its because of the "power creep". They added new characters including a WR person, who are more cunning, smart and edgy/bolder than previous batch.  They have just started, 1 year in high-school (still kids), yet they behave like they own the school and have 10 years of managerial experience.
確かに、堀北は今期、かつての漆黒の覚醒から少し退行したように見えるな。しかし、それは彼女が真の成長の渦中にある証左。新たに現れたWRの刺客たちは、前の連中より遥かに狡猾で、まるで10年の経験を持つ支配者の如く振る舞う。彼らはまだ1年生の小僧に過ぎぬというのに。この力のインフレこそが、彼女の迷いを生む呪いなのだ。中二病+58
MapoTofuMan
原文
To be fair she can handle herself in a fight, had both Sudo and Ayanokouji with her, and didn't know about the new "rules". In her place you'd never consider that Hosen's surface-level plan was "beat the shit out of everyone 1v3", so she probably saw the situation as "worst case scenario we just waste a few minutes, again". Actually expecting positive negotiations after getting basically lured into a dark alley was definitely more optimism than I've ever had in my life though that's for sure...
確かに堀北は空気読めないとこあるよなw でも戦闘力はあるし須藤と綾小路もいるし、新ルール知らなかったしな ワイが同じ立場なら宝泉の単純な「1対3でボコる」作戦なんて想像すらできんわ せいぜい「最悪数分無駄にするだけ」くらいにしか思わんやろ つーか暗い路地に誘い込まれておいて交渉成立すると思い込むのは ワイの人生で一度も持ったことないレベルの楽観視やったけどなwww2ちゃん+51
Cheetah_05
原文
But from the start, hasn't the "fights are allowed in blindspots or without evidence" been a pretty major plotpoint? That's how Ryuen gained control of his class, and he literally had a fight with Ayanokoji too. There very well could've been a blind spot in an alley like that. And she should've realistically known Hosen could 1v3/1v2. She doesn't know Ayanokoji's level, she was mid, and Sudo is more the athletic type (sports) then the figher/boxer type. She can't hold her own at all, not even against the new Class D leaders, who are presumably the weakest/worst first year leaders. Without Ayanokoji, they would be done for completely.
でも最初から「死角や証拠がない場所での喧嘩は許される」ってかなり重要なプロットポイントだったんじゃない?龍園がクラスの支配権を得たのもそうだし、彼は実際に綾小路と喧嘩してたし。 ああいう路地裏には死角があった可能性は十分ある。それに彼女は宝泉が1対3や1対2でも戦えるって現実的に知っておくべきだった。綾小路の実力は知らないし、自分は中程度、須藤はどちらかというと格闘タイプより運動神経タイプだし。 彼女は全然戦えてないよ、新入生のDクラスリーダーたちにすら勝ててない。多分1年生の中で最弱のリーダーたちだろうけど。綾小路がいなければ完全に終わってた。普通くん+7
Shot-Ad770
I think she handle negotiations just fine.
堀北の交渉は普通に上手くやってたやろ。 前シーズン終盤よりちょっと抜けてるように見えるのは確かやけど、そこまで気にするほどでもないンゴwww2ちゃん+12
Loser-shi
Everything asides but season 4 is genuinely going to be peak
他の話は置いといて、season4はマジで優勝確定すぎるッ!感情くん+42
Shot-Ad770
Blindly? More like she didn't think he would actually do something so idiotic. Cause she wasn't aware fighting was being straight up allowed now.
確かに、堀北はまさかあんなバカなことするとは思ってなかったんじゃないかな。だってまさか直接の喧嘩が許可されてるなんて知らなかったわけだし。普通くん+38
gc11117
Well, certainly wasnt expecting this massive drop of episodes
ふむ…まさかこれほどのエピソードの降臨が訪れるとは、我が予測すらも凌駕していたようだ。運命の歯車が予想外の速度で回り始めたのだな。中二病+183
Mizukin
I've been watching animes for so many years and I have never seen 4 episodes be released in the first day.
せやな、ワイもアニメ何年も見てきたけど初日に4話一気出しは初めてやわwww マジでビビったわ2ちゃん+74
lilaznejikid
Frieren season 1 premiering with 4 episodes a few years ago is another one that comes to mind
確かに最近じゃ珍しいよね。フリーレンも初回4話一挙放送だったの思い出したわ。普通くん+67
BlackWidowMac
3 for sure but this is crazy. Honestly, it’s a great marketing scheme to build better retainment levels by getting people invested quickly.
確かに3話まではよくあるけどこれはヤバすぎるッ!正直、すぐに引き込ませて継続率上げるマーケ戦略としては神だと思う。エモい!感情くん+34
Shizzi
After oshi no ko's premier more anime has started doing longer/more ep premiers but 4 ep is still on the unusal side
確かに、推しの子の初回以降、長めの一挙放送や複数話公開をする作品増えたけど、4話はまだ珍しい方だよね。普通くん+18
Loser-shi
Yah me too but its always better
確かに、俺もそう思う。でも、こういうのは多い方がいいだろうな。ドライおじ+24
KingSammyJ1
That was a peak twist but I also kinda felt that all the 1st years were sus lol
確かにあのどんでん返しは神だったな。でも一年生全員がなんか怪しかったのは俺も感じてたよ笑普通くん+163
mekerpan
原文
I want to like Nanase and Amesawa but that creepy boy who approached Kushida was . . creepy. But you are right, most of the 1st years we have seen are suspects -- except Hosen (I guess, since Kiyotaka himself has ruled him out). Even in NOT a white room student, Hosen still strikes me as incredibly dangerous -- not just to Kiyotaka but to practically everyone at the school. I really question the people who handle admissions as to this selection for the entering class....
ワイは七瀬と天沢は好きになりたいけど、櫛田に近づいてきたあの不気味な坊主は……キモすぎやろwww でもお前の言う通り、今出てきた1年生の大半は怪しいよな——宝泉は除いて(清隆本人が除外してるし)。ホワイトルーム生じゃなくても、宝泉はガチで危険やと思うわ。清隆だけじゃなくて、学校のほぼ全員にとってな。 入学担当者、こんなクラスの選考どうなっとんねん……2ちゃん+80
AbdDjamil_27
Plus Ryueen knows Hosen from back home so that rules out Hosen being a WR student
確かに。龍園が宝泉の地元を知ってるってことは、宝泉がWRの生徒って可能性は消えるね。普通くん+82
depravedQ
I think it's either Amakawa or Yagami. Nanase seems too obvious, so she's almost definitely a red herring.
それな!龍園が宝泉のこと知ってる時点でWR生の線は消えたよね。で、アマカワか矢島のどっちかだと思うんだよ!七瀬はあからさま過ぎて絶対フェイクじゃん笑ギャル+19
bananeeek
原文
On one hand, I like how Ayanokouji saw through the scheme and resolved the situation, but on the other hand, I was hoping Housen would get is jaw crushed. That being said, it was hilarious to see everyone dropping down like flies and Ayanakouji just chilled there in the back. And the madman did it. 100/100. Looks like he's not playing around anymore, but I'm curious how that goes along with the "I don't want to stand out" mindset. I guess being targeted with a bounty of 20kk crushed that approach, but the question is how much he'll show from now on. Is he just going to put his academic skills to light or the whole White Room package?
綾小路が策を見抜いて解決したのは良かったンゴねぇ……でもそれ以上に宝泉の顎が粉砕されるトコ見たかったわwww つーか皆バタバタ倒れてく中で綾小路だけ涼しい顔して立ってるのが草生えるンゴwww あの狂人がやりよったな。100点満点やろ。もう遊びじゃないみたいだけど「目立ちたくない」スタンスとどう両立すんのか気になるわ。まあ2000万の懸賞金かけられた時点でそんな余裕なかったンゴね。問題はここからどこまで見せるかやな。学力だけ晒すのか、ホワイトルームの本気全開にするのか。2ちゃん+131
Beginning-Hope-2600
原文
I think he's going to increasingly step out of the shadows from here on out. His class was already starting to realize that he was holding back, every other class leader knows that he's the true mastermind behind 1D's success, and he has a literal target on his back, which is bound to draw attention. Even in these first few episodes, it seems like he's already been more active and less concerned about remaining covert. His most devious plans will likely remain secretive, but his skills will certainly become more common knowledge.
確かにそれな。ここからは彼がどんどん表に出てくると思うよ。クラスの連中も彼が手加減してたって気づき始めてるし、他のクラスのリーダーたちも1年D組の成功の黒幕が彼だって知ってる。それに背中にターゲットまであって注目を集めるのは避けられないよな。最初の数話だけ見ても、もう隠密に行動するより積極的になってる感じがするし。 彼の最も狡猾な計画は秘密のままだろうけど、その能力はもっと周知の事実になっていくと思う。普通くん+86
oops_i_made_a_typi
> but his skills will certainly become more common knowledge. looking forward to see more piano, calligraphy, and cooking
それな!彼のスキルがもっと周知されるようになるのは間違いないじゃん! ピアノとか書道とか料理とか、これからもっと見れるの楽しみすぎる!やばくね!?ギャル+42
Cheetah_05
Yup. With how much guiding and general action he had to undertake for Class D it's inevitable that others would start taking notice that he's the actual mastermind. Off the top only Class B Ichinose might not know for sure? At least Ryuen and Sakayanagi already know. Might as well make it public then, it's not really secret anymore anyways.
同意。Dクラスをこれだけ導き、行動してきた以上、他の連中が彼こそが真の黒幕だと気づき始めるのは避けられないな。現時点で確実に知らないのはBクラスの一之瀬くらいか?少なくとも龍園と坂柳はもう知ってる。なら公にしちまえばいい、もう秘密でもないしな。考察くん+5
ObvsThrowaway5120
It was a clever plan to try and set up Ayanokoji, but as usual the dude was like 10 steps ahead. I guess they got that class alliance Suzume wanted and Hosen on a tight leash. At least for now. Keen to see how Ayanokoji deals with this bounty on him. There’s still that White Room infiltrator too.
綾小路を嵌めようって計画は確かに賢かったんだけど、やっぱりあいつは10手先を読んでたってことか。鈴音が望んでたクラス連合もできたし、宝泉も抑え込めたみたいだね。少なくとも今は。 この懸賞金問題に綾小路がどう対処するか気になるわ。白室の潜入者もまだいるし。普通くん+118
PeaceAlien
Ayankoji saves the day yet again. I forget that most people don't know how strong he is.
まじで綾小路またやっちゃったじゃん!やっぱみんな彼の強さ知らなすぎだよね〜笑ギャル+55
ObvsThrowaway5120
Guy keeps things pretty close to the vest. You see some average stone faced kid but he’s really a genius with freakish strength haha.
確かに綾小路はいつも隠し事が多いよね。普通の無表情な奴に見えるけど実は天才で常軌を逸した強さを持ってるってギャップがすごいわ。普通くん+53
PeaceAlien
At this point he’s done so much, 4th season after all. Usually in anime everyone knows how strong the MC is by this point
確かにw もう4期だしな。普通のアニメなら主人公の実力バレバレだけど、こいつはまだ謎だらけで草wwwおじ+24
mekerpan
I really, really don't like Hosen. I never thought we would run up against some worse than Ryuji (who I find intriguing at least).
確かに!綾小路は何歩も先読んでるしな…でもホーセンは本当にヤバい。少なくとも龍司はまだ興味深かったのに、こいつはマジで無理すぎるッ!感情くん+41
Atario
He such a hoser. He should take off, eh
ホーセンはガチでクソやな。さっさと消えろや、マジで。2ちゃん+14
PeaceAlien
The 4-episode drop worked, the other 3 were building to this episode's climax. Tbh I don't like the plot of sending white room people, since once Ayanokoji wins, another one will be sent again, basically an endless story if the author wanted. There must be a bigger solution.
この4話連続配信は効果的だったな。他の3話はこのエピソードのクライマックスに向けての布石だったと考察できる。 ただ、白房子の刺客を送り込む展開は正直好みじゃない。綾小路が勝ったらまた別の刺客が送られる、つまり作者が望めば無限に続くループ構造になってしまう。もっと根本的な解決策が必要だというのが私の分析だ。考察くん+112
myrlin77
原文
I would love "arc drops" like this for other shows like this. Especially since this show tends to have mini arcs Really good arc. My only nitpick is that the 1st years were quite a bit cocky but then I looked at it from their point of view. 1) They already thought they were awesome going to this school 2) They already pissed they got stuck in D class 3) They got special requests from the president themselves therefore inflating their ego more....... I missed this show! Was curious where they were going with the cutlery angle from the beginning. I mean, we all know Akanoji woulda kicked that dude's ass so bad. Not a huge fan of the "white room" plant AND the adult prez going after him, room is a bit crowded...hehe.
確かに一気見できるアーク配信は他の作品でもやってほしいね。特にこの作品はミニアークが多いし。 今回のアークはかなり良かった。強いて言うなら1年生たちがちょっと調子乗りすぎかなと思ったけど、彼らの立場で考え直した。 1) 元々この学校に入れただけで自分たちはすごいと思ってる 2) Dクラスに振り分けられたことに既にイライラしてる 3) 会長から直接特別な依頼を受けてさらに自信過剰に…… って感じだしね。 この作品久しぶりだな!最初からカトラリーの伏線がどう展開するのか気になってたんだよね。まあ、綾小路があの野郎をボコボコにできたのは誰の目にも明らかだけどさ。 でも「ホワイトルーム」のスパイに加えて大人の会長も彼を追いかけてくるのはちょっとやりすぎ感あるかな……笑普通くん+42
mekerpan
Since (quite a while back) I read far past the point where this season will end, I am going to have to lay pretty low when it comes to discussions of possible future events. I can say that this 4 episode run was great (and I really appreciated getting these all at once). This is a great section of the LN series -- and I hope everyone enjoys it.
せやな、4話一気配信は正解やったわ。他の3話はこのクライマックスの布石やったってわけや。 ワイは原作の先まで読んじゃってるから、今後の展開については大人しくしとくンゴ…。でもこの4話まとめはガチで良かったわ。原作のこのパートはほんま名シーンやし、みんな楽しんでくれや。2ちゃん+36
SpiderTechnitian
Why did you post this as a reply 😭
それなw なんでリプで送ったんw普通くん+28
mekerpan
Because I recognize the poster -- and I was commenting on their observation about the 4 episode drop-ness. (Besides it is safer to post replies to specific points because I won't be tempted to wander into comments that might be too "forward-looking").
草、なんでリプで貼るねん😭 投稿者が誰か分かったからやで。ついでに4話一挙配信って話に便乗しただけや。 (ついでに言うと、特定のレスに返す方が「先走った話」に迷い込まんで済むから安全なんや)2ちゃん+6
time_axis
It can't be endless since there are only so many days in a high school year.
確かに、高校生活の日数が限られてるから無限には続かないよね。普通くん+17
TPIronside
I bet Ayanokoji getting serious and scoring 100/100 is the 9/11 for the "he's just like me fr" self-insert fanboys 😭😭😭
綾小路が本気出して100点取ったの、完全に「俺と一緒だわ」って自己投影してた連中にとっての9/11すぎるッ😭😭😭 無理!感情くん+97
Competitive-Link-337
That’s his first 100. Everyone was shocked
確かに。初めての100点満点、みんな驚いてたね。普通くん+41
Atario
And second place was 87.
それなw 初の100点でみんな驚いたけど、2位が87点ってのがまた草生えるわ笑wwwおじ+40
TPIronside
Uh... Not sure if you replied to the right comment? 😅
えっと…それ、コメント先間違えてない?😅ギャル+5
SMA2343
He for sure is getting serious, I think now after this attempt at getting him expelled put a fire under his ass that he will not lose this experience to be a regular kid.
確かに、あの退学騒動で本気スイッチ入ったのは間違いないな。普通の高校生でいる経験はもう手放せないって思ってるんだろうね。普通くん+8
remake_cote
Very good adaptation of the novel. The knife scene was underwhelming tbh, thats what happens when u dont have talent on board, but the premiere overall was good enough. Episode 1 was the weakest in terms of drawing consistency but it got better. Still the granulated line work stands out a lot on some scenes because of the different color palettes.
原作の再現度はガチで高いな。ナイフのシーンは正直しょぼかったンゴ……才能ないとああなるんやろな。でも初回としてはまあ及第点や。第1話は作画の安定感が一番弱かったけど、その後はマシになってたわ。 それでも線が粗いとこが一部のシーンでめっちゃ目立つンゴ。色味の違いが原因やろな。2ちゃん+48
Silent-Assassin-23
Agree with the knife scene being underwhelming. I liked the fan animation better tbh lmao
確かに!ナイフシーンはちょっと微妙だったよね笑 ファンアニメの方が良かったってまじそれな!ギャル+25
Atario
> thats what happens when u dont have talent on board Hear that, every person who works on this show? Some Internet Rando™ sez you're talentless. Of course this is very important.
確かに!「無能なスタッフ」って言われてるよ、このアニメの制作陣みんな聞こえてるか?ネットの名無しさんが「お前ら才能ない」っておっしゃってますよ。もちろん超大事な意見だよね(皮肉)。感情くん+17
Fast_Document1643
Here you go:
これやで2ちゃん+22
SadAnimator1354
Episode 4 is one of my most favourite anime episodes of all time now
エピソード4はガチでワイの歴代アニメベスト級に入ったわwww2ちゃん+42
mekerpan
I thought this 4-episode stretch was the highlight of the whole adaptation so far.
確かにこの4話連続は今までの適応で一番のハイライトだったと思う。普通くん+31
ArxisOne
I think a lot of that has to do with the source material, the start of Y2 is probably the best run of volumes in the series. They did do a great job of adapting it too though, it really felt like I was watching the book. Maybe a hot take but I like the new visual style more too, at least compared to 2 and 3.
確かにそれは原作の力が大きいだろうな。2年生編の序盤はシリーズでも最高の出来だと思う。アニメの再現度も良かったし、本を読んでる感覚だった。個人的には新しいビジュアルスタイルも第2期・第3期より好きだ。ドライおじ+33
Spada_marka
Legit, the 4th season gives me the shivers like the 1st season. 2nd and 3rd was good but 1st and now 4th season are better
確かに、原作もY2の序盤がシリーズで一番の出来だよね。4期は1期みたいにゾクゾクするわ。2期と3期も良かったけど、1期と4期の方が上だと思う。普通くん+5
oops_i_made_a_typi
like, it's good for COTE but are you new to anime?
え、マジで言ってる?COTE的にはいいかもだけど、あんたアニメ初心者じゃね?笑ギャル+26
AsherMW
All thats left now is to pray for good pacing on the next special exam, been looking forward to this one for a long time
あとは次の特別試験のテンポがいいことを祈るだけだね、この展開をずっと楽しみにしてたんだ普通くん+40
LeonKevlar
原文
Hozen feels like a more brutish version of Ryuuen. He's not exactly Ryuuen 2.0, but they have similar methods. I just wish Ayanokouji slapped him around first and put him in his place, since that would count as self-defence. And I was right not to trust any of the first years. All of them are after the 20 million bounty on Ayanokouji's head, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason those two from 1-C approached him last episode. I guess none of the first years can be trusted at all. I guess the question now is, who's the White Room student? Nanase seems to be the most obvious answer since she doesn't believe that Ayanokouji is worthy of this school. Amasawa is my second pick because she's the one who refined Hosen's plan, and the acting principal did mention the White Student has gone rogue. Or it could be someone we haven't met yet, so I guess we just need to watch out.
宝泉、龍園のパワーアップ版って感じやな。完全に龍園2.0ってわけじゃないけど手法は似てるわ。綾小路が先にぶん殴って黙らせればよかったのに、それなら正当防衛になるしな。 やっぱり1年生は誰も信じられへんわ。全員が綾小路の首に懸かった2000万の賞金目当てやろ。先週1-Cのあの2人が近づいてきたのもそのせいやと思うわ。まあ1年生は全滅やな。 んで気になるのは誰がホワイトルームの生徒かって話や。七瀬が一番怪しいわ、綾小路がこの学校にふさわしくないって思ってるし。次点で天沢やな、宝泉の計画を練り直したの彼女やし、校長代理もホワイトルームの生徒が暴走してるって言ってたし。まだ出てきてないキャラの可能性もあるから、とりあえず様子見やな。2ちゃん+41
mekerpan
I feel Ryuuen is not just craftier than Hosen, but has some sort of sense of "honor"(albeit quite twisted and inscrutable). Hosen, on the other hand, seems to be almost entirely brute-strength-oriented. (Note; I can't claim to *understand* Ryuuen, but he *seems* much more "substantial" than Hosen. I also can't claim to *like* Ryuuen at all).
確かに、龍園と宝泉の比較は興味深い考察だ。龍園は確かに狡猾さに加えて、独自の歪んだ美学とも言える「矜持」を持っているように見える。一方で宝泉は、純粋な暴力性に特化したキャラクターだと言える。龍園の行動には、たとえ理解不能でも一貫した論理が感じられるのに対し、宝泉は力で押し通すだけの単純さがある。この差が、両者のキャラクターの「厚み」の違いに表れているんだろうな。考察くん+12
edwardjhahm
I like Ryuuen ever since his beatdown for some reason. Dragon Boy has become far more chill. But yes, maybe it's recency bias, but Hosen is far more barbaric than Ryuuen, who at the end of the day, still had standards.
確かに。龍園はあのボコボコにされた場面以来なんか好きになったんだよね。ドラゴンボーイもだいぶ落ち着いたし。 でも最近の印象かもしれないけど、宝泉は龍園よりはるかに野蛮だと思う。龍園は結局、最低限の線引きはあったし。普通くん+13
DR_FEELGOOD_01
My going theory is that there are multiple white room students. We only saw one get briefed before being put in, but they had the same talk with multiple. I'm guessing one in each class, that would explain how they're all so ruthless from the jump. I could be way off here, but Ayanokoji has that much heat. Similar to death note with L's replacements.
ワイの仮説やと、白室の生徒は複数おると思うンゴ。 一人だけ説明受けてるシーンしか見せてないけど、何人も同じ説明受けてるはずや。 たぶん各クラスに一人ずつ配置されてて、それで最初っからあんなクソみたいな連中ばっかなんやろな。 的外れかもしらんけど、綾小路ってそこまでヤバい存在やと思うわ。 デスノートのLの後継ぎみたいなノリで。2ちゃん+6
shad79
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I love the new OP and ED; they're great, both musically and visually. Visually, the OP is definitely more interesting, but then again, the ED has beautiful girls ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), so even though it's a slideshow, I like ED visually just as much as the OP. As for these first four episodes... they were a fun start to this new season! Everything was as usual: Ayanokouji tried to stay in the background with that deadpan face, only to save everything in the end, Suzune still isn't very bright, Sudo still acts sometimes like an idiot, and Koenji... well, Koenji is still himself, hahahaha! I'm happy to welcome all the new first years, especially Nanase. Although I wonder what gives her the right to decide whetever Ayanokouji is worthy of this school or not?! I was also very happy that Kei got a lot of screen time in the 3rd episode, plus that Suzune's moves in the fight against Hosen were really nice! Here my screenshot albums from: * OP * ED EPISODE 01: * Nanase & Ayanokouji * Suzune * Group scenes * Others EPISODE 02: * Nanase & Ayanokoji * Suzune * Amasawa * Group scenes * Others EPISODE 03: * Nanase * Kei * Group scenes * Others EPISODE 04: * Suzune * Group scenes * Nanase & Others
新しいOPとEDめっちゃ良かったな!音楽も映像も両方いい。OPの方が映像的に面白いけど、EDは美少女がいるから( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)スライドショーでも同じくらい好きだよ。 最初の4話は今期の楽しいスタートだったね。いつも通り綾小路は無表情で背景に隠れて最後に全部解決、鈴音はまだまだ頭良くなさそう、須藤はたまにバカやって、 Koenjiは相変わらず自分自身だわ、ははは! 新入生たち、特に七瀬を歓迎できて嬉しいよ。でも彼女が綾小路がこの学校にふさわしいかどうか決める権利があるのか疑問だな? 第3話で軽井沢がたくさん出番があったのも嬉しかったし、鈴音の宝泉との戦いでの動きもかなり良かった! 以下スクリーンショットアルバム: * OP * ED エピソード01: - 七瀬&綾小路 - 鈴音 - グループシーン - その他 エピソード02: - 七瀬&綾小路 - 鈴音 - 天沢 - グループシーン - その他 エピソード03: - 七瀬 - 軽井沢 - グループシーン - その他 エピソード04: - 鈴音 - グループシーン - 七瀬&その他普通くん+35
Rabbitey-
原文
Pretty good four-episode stretch. Honestly surprised how fast it went by when most of what happened was buildup. The visuals seem less flat than before, too. The first-years are an interesting group. Doesn't help Ayanokoji when they've been bribed to expel him for points while he's trying to figure out who's from the White Room. Assuming they've already been shown, I think it's Yagami. He gives me Kushida 2.0 vibes. Ichika's my next guess, but I prefer her to not be the assassin because she seems like a fun and chaotic character. Kushida's also funny. She wants to grow her hair out now because of Horikita. Girl despises tf outta her lmao
4話連続で結構良い出来だったな。正直、ほとんどが伏線の積み上げだったのにあっという間に終わったのが驚きだ。作画も以前より平坦じゃなくなってる。 1年生たちは興味深い集団だね。綾小路がホワイトルームの人物を特定しようとしている中、彼らがポイントで買収されて追放を狙っているのは逆風だ。既に登場済みと仮定すると、犯人は八神じゃないか。彼からは軽井沢2.0みたいな雰囲気を感じる。次点は一夏だが、彼女には刺客じゃなくてカオスで楽しいキャラでいてほしいな。 軽井沢も面白い。堀北の影響で髪を伸ばしたがってるらしい。彼女、心の底から堀北を嫌ってるんだな笑考察くん+30
DR_FEELGOOD_01
Out of all the first years I agree with you on Yagami. I don't think he was Kushidas kouhai but already knew her background and likely made a deal/threatened her prior to their 'first' meeting in the hall.
同意。1年生の中だとやっぱり矢神だよね。彼は櫛田の後輩ってわけじゃなくて、事前に彼女の背景を知ってて廊下で『初めて』会う前に何か取引か脅しをしてた可能性が高いと思う。普通くん+5
HolyDragSwd2500
Was not expecting Ayanakouji to team up with Hosen. Class D passed the test Mystery of White Room student😱
えっまじで!?綾小路と宝泉がタッグ組むとか予想外すぎじゃん!笑 Dクラス合格おめでとー!🎉 ホワイトルームの生徒の謎やばくね!?😱ギャル+29
nafissyed
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Man, the visuals are quite the creative spectacle! It's been a while since I last glazed this series, but the episode overall has been a massive improvement over the previous seasons in terms of art-style, storyboarding and character animation! Even the direction and pacing have improved, too, so it looks like the anime will redeem itself to a newer height of adaptational quality. Man, I am just so happy right now, to see this and Re:0, two of some of my most favourite LN IPs ever, getting insane love like this from Kadokawa's prioritisation!
このビジュアル、めっちゃクリエイティブで見応えあるな!久しぶりにシリーズ見たけど、作画や絵コンテ、キャラアニメーションが前シーズンより大幅に良くなってる。演出やテンポも改善されてて、アニメが新たな高みにリベンジしそうだね。俺の大好きなラノベIPのよう実とRe:0が、カドカワの優先度でこんなに愛されてるの見れて、めっちゃ嬉しいわ!普通くん+33
SnabDedraterEdave
原文
Back in season 1, we've seen Horikita's brother briefly spar with Ayanokoji, but I didn't expect Suzune to also know some martial arts herself. Though Hozen was too much of a brute to be beaten so easily. While there was no bug in Amazawa's hairband, but we all correctly guessed that she did indeed deliberately left it behind Ayanokoji's flat in order to retrieve the luxury kitchen knife she bought in order to help Hozen frame Ayanokoji later on. Perhaps Amazawa insisting on buying that specifically expensive knife was what got Ayanokoji suspicious and secretly had Kei investigate who else had bought these knives. Either way, Ayanokoji managed to turn the tables on Hozen and blackmailed him into agreeing to let Class 1D work with Class 2D for the Special Test. Though now Ayanokoji has no way of knowing who the real White Room spy is, as Nanase revealed a few select 1st years (at least we know this includes Hozen, Nanase and Amazawa) have been promised 20 million points by someone high up just to get Ayanokoji expelled using whatever means available. Just because they're all hell bent on getting him expelled still doesn't make them the spy. Hozen revealing that he and Amazawa aren't really acquainted with each other means they are just working together for the 20m points bounty and not necessarily working for White Room. And you can bet those two Class 1C students approaching Ayanokoji last episode didn't decide to meet him by coincidence. They're also here for the 20m points bounty.
せやな、1期で堀北の兄貴が綾小路と軽く手合わせしてたのは見たけど、まさか鈴音も格闘技できるとは思わんかったわ。でも宝泉はガチの野蛮人やから簡単には倒されへんかったな。 天沢のヘアバンドに盗聴器は入ってなかったけど、やっぱりアレはわざと綾小路の部屋に置き忘れて、高級包丁を回収するための布石やったんやな。あの包丁で宝泉を助けて、後で綾小路を嵌めるつもりやったと。 天沢がやけに高級な包丁にこだわったから、綾小路が怪しんでケイに他に買った奴がおらんか調べさせたんやろな。 まあ結局、綾小路が宝泉を逆手に取って脅し、1年D組と2年D組の合同特別試験を認めさせたわけや。 でも今や綾小路も本物のホワイトルームのスパイが誰か分からん状態や。七瀬が明かした通り、一部の1年生(少なくとも宝泉、七瀬、天沢は含まれる)は、上の連中から2000万ポイントを餌に綾小路を退学させろって指令を受けてるらしい。全員が退学に執着してるからって、全員がスパイとは限らん。 宝泉が「天沢とは面識ない」って言ったってことは、二人は単に2000万ポイント目当てで協力してるだけで、ホワイトルームの息がかかってる2ちゃん+27
vnomgt
>but we all correctly guessed that she did indeed deliberately left it behind Ayanokoji's flat small detail, but I imagine that she didn't actually leave anything behind, she just pretended to find the hairband while ayanokoji was looking the other way (under the bed). It would have been way more risky for her to leave it there, since there was he chance he could have found it
堀北がわざと髪ゴムを綾小路の部屋に置いてきたって皆の予想は当たってたね 細かいけど、俺は実際には何も置いてなかったと思うんだ。綾小路がベッドの下を見てる隙に、見つけたふりをしただけじゃないかな。わざと置いてたら見つかるリスクが高すぎるしね普通くん+25
AlexxxandreS
I'm 100% sure she didn't leave behind, otherwise Ayanokoji would have found. You can see him checking the kitchen for bugs right after she did the dishes and left. He would not miss that, so she just went there to get the knife and used the hairpin as an excuse
同意。彼女がわざと置き忘れたという説には懐かなかった。綾小路が食器を片付けた直後に台所の盗聴器チェックをしていた描写がある。彼の観察力なら見逃すはずがない。つまり、彼女はあくまで包丁を回収するのが目的で、ヘアピンは口実として使ったという考察ができる。考察くん+8
GoXDS
don't forget she already fought the girl in Class C during the island Special exam, so her knowing martial arts isn't new
確かに。島の特別試験でCクラスの女子と戦ってたし、彼女が格闘技できるのは知ってたよ。普通くん+15
NanDemoKnaives
原文
I like how firm Horikita was, even after water was thrown in her face, she stood firm and left knowing there was no chance things were going to go through after calling Housen out for getting annoyed lol.  I figured Housen was going to escalate things but it still took me by surprise that he took out a knife, that was crazy. I'm glad we've learned about the particular expulsion request and how Amasawa was involved, why she returned back to Ayanokouji's place. 1-D is out of the equation, but I'm curious how the other leaders will go after Ayanokouji.  It's exciting to see Ayanokouji actually showing his true colors, it's too bad he won't be able to maneuver from the shadows anymore, but I'm looking forward to seeing what moves he'll make upfront.
堀北マジでブレないなw顔面に水ぶっかけられても微動だにせず、宝泉がキレてるの見て「話にならんわ」って去ってったの草生えるわ 宝泉がエスカレートするのは読めてたけど、まさかナイフ出すとは思わんかったわ、ガチでビビったンゴwww 天沢が絡んでる退学リクエストの詳細や、彼女が綾小路んちに戻った理由が分かってよかったわ 1-Dはもう除外やけど、他のリーダー連中がどう綾小路を狙ってくるか気になるわ 綾小路がついに本性見せ始めたの熱すぎるやろ、裏で操れなくなるのは残念やけど、表でどんな動き見せるか楽しみやわ2ちゃん+22
LegitimateCurve8525
A quick information: The 4 episodes that were released completely adapts volume 1.
簡単な情報:配信された4話で完全に1巻を消化してるよ。普通くん+17
Mizukin
It is so OBVIOUS that Nanase is the white room student that I am reluctant to consider she is the one. There must be someone else.
七瀬がホワイトルームの生徒やなんてガチでバレバレすぎて逆に怪しいンゴwww絶対他に誰かおるやろ2ちゃん+19
Intelligent-Bet4111
Iike the other comment said, it's probably tsubaki the girl earlier who was with the guy and met ayano in the restaurant
確かに!他のコメントにもあったけど、多分あのレストランで綾小路と会ってた奴、椿っていう女の方だよな。七瀬は白すぎて逆に怪しいし、絶対違うって思うわ。感情くん+16
Aenah
That was some convenient ass timing on that rain.
マジで雨のタイミング良すぎじゃね!?笑 都合よすぎだろ〜ギャル+18
mike_2797
They adapted the hosen confrontation scene really well happy with the adaptaion so far.
宝泉との対決シーン、めっちゃ良くできてたな。今のところ適応には満足してるよ。普通くん+14
YashWarden1769
They cooked with Ayanokoji vs Hosen
綾小路vs宝泉のバトル、ガチで最高すぎるッ!🔥 神回すぎて泣いた感情くん+18
SnabDedraterEdave
原文
Besides declaring that he would no longer hide in the shadows, I think Ayanokoji also had no choice but to ace all the subjects for this Special Test. Though Ayanokoji has managed to blackmail Hosen and even made Hosen partner with him in order to keep an eye on Hosen, but as long as that 20 million point bounty in getting Ayanokoji expelled remains in effect, Ayanokoji is taking no chances in letting Hosen deliberately fail his tests and thus dragging Ayanokoji down. By acing all his subjects, Ayanokoji ensures that even if Hosen deliberately scores 0 in all his subjects, their team average would still be 50% and just above the passing mark, rendering any of Hosen's attempted sabotage useless.
「影に隠れるのは終わり」宣言したけど、綾小路は今回の特別試験で全教科満点取る以外に選択肢なかったんやろな。 宝泉を脅して監視下に置くことに成功したとはいえ、20万ポイントの退学懸賞金が生きてる限り、宝森がわざと落第して足引っ張るリスクは絶対に取れない。 全教科満点取れば、宝泉が全教科0点取ってもチーム平均50%で合格ラインギリギリ超える計算や。つまり宝泉の妨害工作を完全に無効化できるってわけやな。2ちゃん+15
kwokinator
I'm calling it now, Yagami is totally the White Room student. He's sus as shit from the jump and his nice boy type doesn't exist in the CtoE world.
今のうちに言っておくけど、矢神は完全にホワイトルームの生徒だと思うよ。最初から怪しすぎるし、CtoEの世界にいい子ちゃんキャラなんて存在しないからね。普通くん+12
FeelingPossibility40
Ichinose is the nice girl type and she exists in the cote world. She might get stomped in every exam but she exists.
確かに一之瀬は優しい子タイプやな。毎回試験でボコられても存在感はあるンゴwww でも矢神の怪しさには敵わへんで草2ちゃん+22
KaiserNazrin
How could it be him when he know Kushida from middle school?
確かに!でも中学から櫛田と知り合いな時点で怪しすぎるッ!ワイの予想だと彼は白室じゃなくて別の何かだと思うんだよな…無理すぎて頭パンクしそう!感情くん+11
edwardjhahm
> his nice boy type doesn't exist in the CtoE world They do! Nice girls like Ichinose and Karuizawa absolutely exist, and Hirata is a pretty nice fellow too. Unfortunately, genuinely nice people in the COTE-universe basically exist to get stomped on. Anyone who is both smart and kind is probably only the former, that's how I see it.
確かに「CtoEの世界にいい人は存在しない」って意見はわかるけど、一之瀬や軽井沢みたいな本当に優しいキャラは確実に存在するし、平田もかなりいいやつだよな。ただ残念ながら、COTEの世界観において純粋に善良な人間は、基本的に踏み潰されるために存在してるように思える。賢くて優しい人間は、実は前者だけって可能性が高い——そういう考察ができる。考察くん+9
oneevilchicken
Not a fan of the hosen parts. I feel like anytime this show resorts to violence and fighting the way it is, it’s just a cop out and cheap way to add drama. Would rather them have gone about it a bit differently. Just proud that seems to be over.
宝泉のパートはあんまり好きじゃないな。この作品がこういう暴力や喧嘩に頼るのは、手抜きで安っぽいドラマの付け方だと思う。もう少し違うやり方で進めてほしかった。とにかくそれが終わったのは良かった。普通くん+11
Next_Package_5710
is digging your ear in public considered bad manners in Japan? I see Gintoki doing that a lot like Hosen...
確かに銀さんよく耳掃除してるよね!でも日本では公共の場で耳掃除するのはマナー違反ってほどじゃないけど、あんまり上品な行為とは言われてないよ。鳳仙もやってたし銀魂あるあるって感じかなw感情くん+8
Atario
Pretty sure it's bad manners mostly everywhere. But specifically in Japanese media, it seems to be a sign of disrespect
確かに、たいていの場所でマナー違反だよね。でも日本のメディアだと、それが特に無礼さの表現として使われてるみたいだね。普通くん+21
FaalRovaan
It's bad manners, but also disrespectful in a discussion. It after all tells the message "I need to clean my ears to even hear what you are yapping about." It's a showcase of not listening or not caring about what you say.
せやな、公衆の面前で耳かきするのは日本でもマナー違反やで。でもそれ以上に、議論中にやると「お前の話聞くために耳掃除せなあかんわ」って暗に言ってるようなもんやからな。相手の話聞いてない、興味ないってアピールやで。草。2ちゃん+5
aBigWeirdPenguin
Out of all anime to get the Frieren 4-episode drop treatment, this was not in my bingo list lmao. I welcome it tho
フリーレンの4話一挙放送と同じ扱いを受けるアニメの中にこれがあったとは、俺のビンゴカードにはなかったわwww でも全然ウェルカムだけどな!感情くん+8
Atario
原文
>Horikita's felt . . . a bit more airheaded and naive these episodes than how she was at the end of the previous season. She's certainly taken on the mantle of class leader now, but I think her writing has regressed her a bit. >Part of that is because the school is increasingly aware of the fact that Ayanokoji is the real leader and he's stepping into the limelight, but It's insane to see her still making the same mistakes she's made over and over again and has now gotten called out for multiple times. Obviously she wasn't going to sus out the plot to expel ayanokoji, but you would think she can handle basic negotiations with first year students by now, meanwhile Nanase and Hosen absolutely schooled her. She's neither airheaded nor naïve. She's idealistic and won't brook violations of those ideals. And they didn't "school" her, they made absurd demands that she walked away from each time. Then it was just a straight-up physical attack.
堀北、今期ちょっとバカっぽくなってね?前期終盤の感じと違うわ。クラスのリーダーとしての自覚はあるんやろうけど、キャラの書き方が後退してる気がするンゴwww つーか、何度も同じミス繰り返してツッコまれてんのにまだ学習せえへんのかよ。綾小路が実質的なリーダーってバレてきてるのもあるけど、一年生との交渉すらまともにできへんってガチで草。七瀬と宝泉に完全にやられとるやん。 いやいや、堀北はバカでも純粋でもないわ。理想主義なだけで、その理想を曲げへんってだけやろ。「やられた」とか言うけど、あいつらが無茶な要求してきて毎回スルーしてるやん。その後は普通に暴力沙汰やし。2ちゃん+5
Billardss
Ayanogoatji is back im hype. Time to put my thinking cap on and get everything wrong anyway
綾乃ゴートジ戻ってきたじゃん!やばくね!?また考察モード全開で外しまくる準備完了なんだけど笑笑ギャル+5
DrZoark
I'm suspecting the girl that he cooks for to be the white room infiltrator.
彼が料理を作ってるあの娘、白房子の潜入者なんじゃないかって気がするんだよね。普通くん+5
Zxzxzx0088
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I've been waiting for Ayanokouji to unmasked Nanase since she seems too sus to be true in my eyes for entire 4 episodes. For instance, she needs two more days to persuade Housen while purposedly stalling time to make Suzune and the gang grew hasty when there's so many paired up team have been done during their wait. She deems Housen unsuitable to be the leader and volunteer to be the leader herself all for alliance with class 2-D just to let Suzune drops her guard around her. From these, I genuinely thought Housen is just a puppet controlled by her and she is the true leader of 1-D but looks like I've been hugely proven wrong, eh. What a start of new season though. 4 episodes on April Fools totally not on my watch list. The build-up is great but a bit let down about the conclusion. It's like there's something more about this or I want to see more Ayanokouji gloves off mode... Ngl, Housen not so bad after all. He got more brains when speaking about trust logic to Suzune. A perfect partner for Ayanokouji for sure, Can't wait to see him get trashed sooner or later :3
綾小路が七瀬の正体暴くの待ってたわ。4話丸々怪しすぎるやろこれって思ってたし。例えば「説得にあと2日必要」ってわざと時間稼ぎして鈴音たちを焦らせてたし、ペア組んだチームは結構いたのに。七瀬は宝泉をリーダー不適格って言って、自分がリーダーになるって名目で2-Dと同盟組んで鈴音の警戒緩める狙いやろ。正直ワイは宝泉は七瀬の操り人形で、1-Dの真のリーダーは七瀬やと思ってたンゴwwwでも見事に外れたわ。 新シーズンの始まり方やばすぎやろ。エイプリルフールに4話一気配信とかマジで予想外やったわ。盛り上がりは良かったけど、結論はちょっと肩透かし感あるンゴ。もっと何かあるんちゃうかとか、綾小路の本気モードもっと見たかったわ。 正直、宝泉も悪くないな。鈴音に信頼のロジック語る時の頭の回転は結構あるわ。綾小路のパートナーとして完璧やろ。いつかボコられるの楽しみやでwww2ちゃん+5
Hajmola_Smugler
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It’s honestly really hard for me to enjoy this anime. It feels like all the characters are trying to look smart and cool, but it just comes off as forced and mc isn't that bad but all the other characters feel very flat and really really dumb(mc isn't good but he's better than other side characters) The frustrating part is that the concept seemed like something I’d really like but even after watching Season 2 it still feels like a ragebait am i genuinely missing something?
正直このアニメ楽しむのが難しいんだよね。キャラ全員が賢くてクールに見せようとしてるけど、すごく無理やりに感じる。主人公はそこまで悪くないけど、他のキャラはすごく浅くてめっちゃアホに見える(主人公も完璧じゃないけどサイドキャラよりはマシ)。 イライラするのは、コンセプト自体は好きそうな感じなのに、シーズン2見てもまだ煽りにしか思えないんだよな。俺が何か見逃してるのか?普通くん+5
Mumboze
I'm gonna be honest bro, I usually don't comment or reply but if you don't like something it's really not a big deal. You're valid in thinking that, and I'd recommend to try and enjoy yourself whether that's trying to accept this anime for what it is or look for something else. I understand the feeling you're coming from though.
せやな、ワイも普段はあんま書き込まんけど、お前の気持ちはわかるで。合わんもんは合わんし、無理して楽しむ必要なんてないと思うわ。このアニメをそのまま受け入れるか、別のやつ探すか、自分が楽しめる方選べばええんちゃう?お前の意見は間違ってないし、ワイもその感覚ちょっと理解できるンゴwww2ちゃん+6
ArxisOne
Ayanokoji "loses" to Sakayanagi and Ryuuen beats Ichinose at the end of season 3 which bumped them back down to D.
マジでアヤノコウジが坂柳に「負けた」のと、3期ラストで龍園が一之瀬に勝ったせいでDクラスに落ちたのエモすぎるッ!優勝したと思ったらまさかの展開に泣いたわ…しんどい!感情くん+20
TaylorLAN
they are demoted back to Class D at the end of Season 3 (i believe we hear Horikita mention it in discussion with Ayanokoji)
草、3期ラストでDクラスに降格ってガチなんかwww 堀北が綾小路と話してる時に言及してたってマジ?ワイ見逃してたンゴ…2ちゃん+9
InvincibleWallaby
It's a 16 episode season, this way it fits in the normal timeframe of the tv scheduling
16話構成のシーズンだから、これなら普通のテレビ放送枠に収まる感じだね普通くん+15
vnomgt
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I'm more suspicious of that girl from episode 3, Tsubaki (one of the two students that met with Ayanokoji at the cafe). She kinda had the same deadfish eyes and detached demeanor as him, and she also appears in both the OP and ED. They mentioned that the white room student didn't follow through with the plan, so I feel like Amasawa would already be out. Her approach was also obvious enough that she was found out right away... Yagami on the other hand didn't make direct contact with Ayanokoji, but as we heard in episode 3, the white room student should've met with him directly to prove themselves.
3話に出てきたあの女子、椿(綾小路とカフェで会った2人の生徒のうちの1人)がかなり怪しいな。彼女、綾小路と同じ死んだ魚のような目と無関心な態度を持ってるし、OPとEDの両方に登場してるんだよな。 ホワイトルームの生徒が計画を完遂しなかったって言及があったから、天沢はもう脱落してる可能性が高いと思う。彼女のやり方も露骨すぎてすぐバレてたしな。 一方、矢野は綾小路と直接接触してない。でも3話で言及されてた通り、ホワイトルームの生徒は自分を証明するために直接会うべきだったはずだ。この点を踏まえると椿が本命の候補という考察ができる。考察くん+13