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KnightKal
Greed plan was good on paper, but it fails if Rimuru just remembers he can open a portal back home and call reinforcements. There is no way to isolate him unless they manage a way to block that magic. And there was no indication they did anything towards that effect.
Greedの策は机上では見事だったが、Rimuruが帰還の門を開き援軍を呼べば崩壊するのだ。封じる兆しもなかった。中二病
Frontier246
Honestly I'd be shocked if the squad she rolled in with actually manages to put up a reasonable fight against anyone from Tempest, let alone Shion.
正直、彼女が連れてきた部隊がTempestの誰かとまともに戦えたら驚く。ましてShion相手なんて無理でしょ。普通くん
discuss-not-concuss
he would stomp them in 1 minute if we are being generous but for the sake of building tension, here’s a cliffhanger not only is there no indication of a plan, I doubt Mariabel even asked how Yuuki planned to eradicate Rimuru for a mastermind, this shit is weak.
普通に考えたらリムルが1分で蹂躙して終わる相手だよな。でも緊張感を演出するためにクリフハンガーで引き伸ばしてる。しかも作戦らしき描写が一切ない。マリアベルもユウキがどうやってリムルを消すつもりか聞いてすらいないだろ。黒幕としては、この描写はさすがに弱いと言わざるを得ない。考察くん
AceSoldia
I hope we see something more..because for her to show up just assume her random squad plus Yuuki can handle it is wild. Does she think she's safe? Couldn't he just kill her first and leave? What is the plan here.
もう一捻りあるといいな。彼女、寄せ集め部隊+Yuukiで何とかなると思ってるの無茶すぎ。安全だと思ってる?先に殺されて逃げられない?作戦何?普通くん
Western-Internal-751
She thinks her greed ability can’t fail so she’s extremely overconfident. Or they’ll have an anime moment and pull some huge plot twist out of their ass
あいつ強欲の能力は失敗せんと思ってガチで慢心しとるんやろ。か、アニメ特有の超ご都合どんでん返し来るかやな2ちゃん
Cheetah_05
Yeah she seems to be betting on greed, but unless the anime is going to pull some reverse plotarmor bullshit this is going to be a steamroll. A very satisfying one, hopefully
ああ、彼女は欲に賭けてるっぽいな。逆ご都合展開でもない限り、一方的に潰す流れだろう。満足感はありそうだ。ドライおじ
justking1414
Which does make sense. Greed has worked on everyone so far and Rimuru s basically trying to conquer the world (at least economically speaking). Dude literally modified the evolution of monsters to make them more human and then put a good chunk of them to work recreating his favorite meals. Dude has crazy greed
まあ納得だね。Greedは今のところ誰にでも効いてるし、Rimuruは経済的には世界征服してるようなもん。欲深さやばい。普通くん
Single-Waltz2946
He doesn't actually care about conquering anything. He just wants to live in peace with everyone, and economic domination seems to be the best way to go about it so far.
あいつ、征服とか実はどうでもいいんよ。みんなと平和に暮らしたいだけで、今んとこ経済支配が一番よさげじゃん!ギャル
DotesMagee
He literally said it in this episode too lol. He never takes the fight to anyone they come to him. Even named every kingdom who fought him.
今回も普通にそう言ってたじゃん笑。自分から戦いに行かず、相手が来るだけ。攻めてきた国名も全部挙げてたし。普通くん
Jacob-C
原文
He doesn't have greed in the same sense Mariabell or the nobles of this world has it. He wants stuff from his old world like food, comfort and cool things like the dungeon or magitrain. He is greedy in a "childlike" or carefree way. The fact that the inventions he and his subjects make generate a ton of money is just a nice byproduct that Mjöllmile and others care about. Also dreaming about peace and being left alone in a world where that is not a reality is also a form of greed. In other words, Rimuru is greedy in a "good" way. That doesn't mean that he isn't greedy. However, he has ultimate skills so Mariabell will most likely not be able to manipulate him no matter what.
彼の欲はMariabellや貴族連中とは質が違うという考察ができる。前世の食や快適さ、ダンジョンや魔導列車みたいなロマンを求める「子供っぽい」無邪気な欲なんだよな。発明が大金を生むのはMjöllmile達が喜ぶ副産物にすぎない。平和を夢見るのもある種の欲だが、Rimuruは「善い」欲。それでもアルティメットスキル持ちだからMariabellには操れないと思われる。考察くん
Earlier-Today
Greed and desire aren't the same thing. Greed is best explained as wanting more than you can use, and getting it at the expense of others.
欲望と強欲は同じじゃない。強欲って、自分が使い切れないほど欲しがって、他人を犠牲にして手に入れることだと思う。普通くん
justking1414
economic domination seems to be the best way to go about it so far. Such a wild line
今んとこ経済支配でいくのがベストっぽいじゃん!てかそのセリフ攻めすぎててやばい笑ギャル
OtakuAttacku
Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics.
素人は戦略を語るけど、プロは兵站を語るんだよね。普通くん
Prplehuskie13
原文
Virtually every conflict that results in combat is a result of an idiotic amount of over confidence. Like sure, we've seen that she can be dangerous with the greed ability of hers. But each one of her plans involving Rimuru as blown up in her face, and she still feels confident about her choices, it's laughable. It's at a point to where it feels like there is no tension. Early on in the series Rimuru was still growing stronger, and there were plenty of things stronger than him, and part of the fun of watching this show was seeing him gather his strength. However, now we are at that point that Rimuru is at the level of some of the strongest beings in existence. So now every conflict that results in combat feels nothing more than an annoyance, like a fly floating around your face. The fly poses no real threat, but having it so close to you is annoying.
戦闘になる揉め事、ほぼアホみたいな過信が原因やん。彼女の強欲は危険やけど、Rimuru絡みの策は全部自爆。それでも自信満々で草。緊張感ゼロや。2ちゃん
Western-Internal-751
The combat just isn’t the main focus of this anime anymore. It’s the world building, the politics and with that the endless meetings. The fights are just fan service at this point. Gotta show how ridiculously strong they are every once in a while and then move on to Rimuru playing fantasy Civ again.
もう戦闘はメインじゃないんだよね。世界観作りと政治、延々続く会議が中心。戦闘は今やファンサで、たまに強さ見せてまたRimuruのファンタジー版Civに戻る感じ。普通くん
Earlier-Today
It's always been a Civ anime. Rimuru's first group of people he starts to lead happens in episode 2.
元よりこれはCivの理を宿すアニメなのだ。Rimuruが初めて民を率いる運命は、第2話で既に始まっている。中二病
Original-Body-5794
They dropped a chaos dragon just to bait Milim, but pulling up with Yuuki and mariabel is really questionable, neither of them are fighters right? The other two guys in the background don't seem that strong either so I can't really imagine a big struggle, I imagine Rimuru will have more trouble just trying not to destroy the ruins or something.
Milimを釣るためのchaos dragonはまあいい。だがYuukiとmariabel同伴は怪しいな。Rimuruは戦闘より遺跡を壊さない方で苦労しそうだ。ドライおじ
KnightKal
Yuuki said he can maybe beat Rimuru if alone, she went with that possibility
Yuukiは一人ならRimuruに勝てるかもって言ってたし、彼女はその可能性に賭けたんだなwwwwおじ
Original-Body-5794
That's crazy to think considering that the story going around right now is that he tied with Hinata.
今は彼がHinataと引き分けたって話になってるの考えると、それまじでヤバくね!?ギャル
KnightKal
we don't know how strong Yuuki is, so far he was always holding back/lying to our perspective, so if he said he can, he was referring to his 'true power' whatever he is right or wrong they will only know after fighting all out
Yuukiの強さまだ分からんし、今まで手抜き/嘘つきやろ。できるって言うなら“本気”の話で、全力で戦わんと分からん。2ちゃん
Megakruemel
原文
What kind of pisses me off is that so far Rimuru doesn't have any reason to just kill him, so if he is, according to theories of other comments, just faking being mind controlled, he'll just survive this even though we, as an audience, probably already had enough of this guy. And if he's actually mind controlled, we still know something is up, and he'll also stick around. It feels like he is just literally there to taunt us for whenever he turns out to be the big bad.
正直イラつくのは、現状Rimuruが彼を殺す理由がない点。洗脳のフリでも本物でも生存する伏線で、視聴者を煽ってる感じ。考察くん
AceSoldia
Yeah there is no way Yuuki is ended here..this may be the end of Maribel and Yuuki gets the free pass to continue whatever he is doing...it'll be funny if Rimaru keeps stealing his people though. I have a feeling Kagali? The elf girl is gonna realize Rimaru isn't so bad after all..like most people who meet him.
Yuukiがここで終わるわけないやろ…Maribelは終わりでYuukiは続行か。Rimaruが部下奪い続けたら草。Kagaliも懐きそうやな。2ちゃん
Routine_Owl57
im so tired of yuuki
yuuki、もううんざりすぎる…しんどい…感情くん
justking1414
Don’t forget that Rimuru kinda promised Shizu that he’d look after her students and yuuki was one of them.
RimuruはShizuに、生徒たちの面倒を見るって約束したの忘れちゃダメだよ。yuukiもその一人だったし。普通くん
Earlier-Today
I don't think he's the big bad. I think he might be just another antagonist that gets defeated and that's as big of a threat as he'll be - like for a single season of the anime at most.
こいつがラスボス級とは思えないな…。倒されるだけの敵の一人って感じ。脅威でもせいぜいアニメ1シーズン分でしょ。感情くん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
原文
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すみません、コメントは削除されました。原作関連の話題はスレ上部のSource Material Cornerへ。ネタバレではなく場所違いが理由です。普通くん
justking1414
Yuuki was Shizu’s student alongside Hinata so he’s gotta know at least the bare minimum of combat. Plus he’s the head of the adventurers guild. You don’t manage to wrangle adventurers like that unless you can beat them in a fight
YuukiってHinataと同じShizuの弟子やし、最低限の戦闘は分かるやろ。冒険者まとめるなら殴り勝てんとな。2ちゃん
Megakruemel
原文
I actually am really confused about Mariabel being there. She has told us multiple times that eliminating Rimuru is the goal. If she thinks Yuuki can take him, then the other two dudes should have been enough, if thats the best she has in her arsenal. Imo if you make a "Mastermind" take the field as an author, it should be in a desperate situation. But Mariabel has, geographically and metaphorically speaking, a lot of room to source talent for this fight. So why is she here?
正直、Mariabelがいるのかなり謎。Rimuru排除が目的なら、Yuukiで倒せると思う時点で他の2人で十分じゃん。なんで本人が来たんだ?普通くん
PersonalContest1423
She is there to take control of rimuru once he's weakened/beaten with her greed ability. She thinks it's fool proof and is unaware of just how ridiculously strong rimuru is and unaware he has Raphael to undo/prevent greed from taking control of him.
リムルが弱ったり負けたらグリードの能力で乗っ取るために待機しとるんやろ。完璧な作戦やと思っとるみたいやが、リムルがどんだけアホみたいに強いか分かっとらんし、ラファエルがグリードの支配を無効化できることも知らんのや。2ちゃん
KnightKal
She wants to enslave him, if that fails, kill him.
彼女の狙いは、奴隷にすること。叶わねば殺す。その覚悟、某にはひしひしと伝わってくるでござる。武士
SolomonBlack
原文
That's the basic problem with Slime, these post Clayman villains just aren't cutting it with their like one trick basic bitch schemes so when the OP brats of Tempest no sell them they're left flapping in the breeze. And not like Clayman was that high a bar either but well he at least had several layers going on. And if his actual schtick (mind controlling puppets) had been allowed to work would have been truly fearsome.
Slimeの根本問題は、Clayman後の敵が一発芸レベルの浅い策しかなく、Tempest勢に潰されると何も残らない点。Claymanはまだ策に層があった。考察くん
Megakruemel
原文
Speaking of stomping, they made a really big deal about the defense mechanisms of the place and then basically steamrolled them. They could have probably made this easier by simply preparing to fight them and then triggering the defense mechanism on purpose. The only thing why this couldn't have worked is if the defense would have actually shut down the door. And at that point they could have gone with Shions plan to bust it down.
防衛機構を大げさに描いたのに結局あっさり突破してたね。最初から準備してわざと起動すれば楽だったのでは。ドアが閉まるならShion案で壊せばいいし。普通くん
PersonalContest1423
The defenses weren't made to stop a demon lord and his overpowered as fuck subordinates
あの防衛、魔王とチートすぎる配下どもを止める想定じゃなかったんだよな…無理ゲーすぎるッ!感情くん
Boshwa
And this is why I firmly believe the attack on Tempest was the last time any tension could reasonably be implemented
だからこそ、テンペスト襲撃がまともに緊張感を出せた最後の場面だったと本気で思ってる。普通くん
RaiyenZ
He doesn't even need to fight them, he can just release them from her control and he'll have her at checkmate instantly.
戦う必要すらないじゃん!彼女の支配から解放するだけで即チェックメイト、強すぎるッ!感情くん
StepujacyBrat
Yeah, Rimuru also has a skill that can just summon Veldora to him, so even if they block the portal magic, their chances aren't great
せやな、RimuruはVeldora呼べるスキルあるし、ポータル魔法封じても勝ち目薄いやろ2ちゃん
Megakruemel
I feel like he should just do that to make them freak out a bit. As a treat. In fact, I want it to happen. We need shows of strength or these ambushes will keep happening. And I'm a little tired of Rimuru forgetting that he can do cool things and then not do them in fights.
正直、奴らをちょっとビビらせるためにやってほしい。力を見せないと奇襲は続くし、Rimuruが技を忘れて戦闘で使わないの少し疲れる。普通くん
Karavusk
Why would you waste your completely unpredictable op abilities that nobody knows about? He has yet to get into a situation where he actually needs to go all out. Also the best way to win this is to just disable her mind control. The fight will be over in seconds.
誰も知らない予測不能なチート能力を切る必要はない、という考察ができる。全力の局面じゃないし、彼女の洗脳解除で数秒で終わる。考察くん
mischievous_shota
This so much. Rimuru is stronger than most but there are still several individuals who could actually give him trouble or who are even stronger than him. You don't reveal your cards for a situation that doesn't need it. It's the same reason he doesn't go around gloating about Raphael and keeps her a secret. The only people who know about her are Veldora and Ifrit.
それな。Rimuruは強いけど、苦戦させる奴や格上もまだおる。不要な場面で手札晒す必要ないやろ。Raphael隠してるのも同じや。2ちゃん
Andreiyutzzzz
Also Diablo i'm pretty sure. he was watching when Raphael did the mass ressurection
あとDiabloもたぶんそうだと思う。Raphaelが大量蘇生した時、見てたし。普通くん
mischievous_shota
He didn't realise it was her though. As far as I know, he contemplated the idea and brushed it off as being too absurd.
いや、彼女だとは気づいてなかったよ。たしか一瞬考えたけど「さすがにあり得なさすぎ」って流したはず。感情くん
Karavusk
He only used that once so far and the only witnesses where either on his own side, the other demon lords or they are dead. So unless Maribel understands how exactly the seal on Veldora worked and how Rimuru managed to defeat it there is no way for her to know that he can just summon him at any time.
あれは今のところ一度だけだし、目撃者は味方か他の魔王、もしくは死んでる。Maribelが仕組みを知らない限り、いつでもVeldoraを呼べるなんて分からないよ。普通くん
AceSoldia
The whole time watching it I'm just like .what if he leaves? Can't he just leave? It's ridiculous.🤣
見てる間ずっと「こやつ、去ればよいのでは?帰れぬのか?」と思っておったでござる。馬鹿げておる🤣武士
AvatarTuner
lol Rimuru be like "I'm outta here, have fun! Bye." He probably won't consider it because he wants to preserve the ruins and if he leaves, Mariabel's gang might damage or destroy them.
笑 Rimuru「じゃ、帰るわ!楽しんで〜ばい!」って感じじゃん。でも遺跡守りたいし、Mariabel一味に壊されそうで無理っしょ。ギャル
Biggsy-32
原文
He also wouldn't abandon Milim subjects to an enemy. Milim is his friend and ally, he's going to act to protect and preserve the ruins. He is also aware of Mariabels mind control powers - he likely feels he needs to free Yuuki, he sees him as a threat to Tempest, but he also likely associates Yuuki to the other world kids who he cares for - there's a redeeming factor. Rimiru won't know what was Yuuki under control and not to draw the line to end him here.
彼はミリムの民を敵に見捨てたりしない。ミリムは友であり同盟者だから、遺跡を守り保全するために動くはずだと考察できる。マリアベルの精神支配も認識してるし、ユウキを解放する必要を感じてるんだろう。テンペストへの脅威と見つつも、大切な異世界の子供たちとユウキを重ねてる——救いの要素があるんだよな。どこまでが支配下だったか分からない以上、リムルはここで彼を終わらせる線引きはできないと思われる。考察くん
AgnosticPeterpan
He already knew it's a trap. He's looking to put down maribell once and for all.
彼、もう罠だって分かってるじゃん!maribellを今度こそ完全に潰す気なんだよね!ギャル
UnWiseSageVibe
The thing is, Rimuru has been super good at hiding like what, 75% of his own abilities? not even counting the ones he does not know about because Raphael does not bring them up until he needs them like we saw today. Everyone is under the impression his power comes from Veldora who is not present at the moment so they think Rimuru is not a threat.
Rimuruって能力75%くらい隠してるやろ。Raphaelが必要まで黙ってる分もあるし。皆Veldora頼みと思ってて舐めてるの草2ちゃん
Fluffles0119
I feel like a big thing a lot of people are missing is Rimuru HATES showing his entire hand at any given time. One of his biggest strengths is people assuming he's weaker than he is, if everyone knew his true power + abilities he would struggle to achieve his goals as easily. Others believing Veldora is his "anchor" is a pretty big plot point people keep forgetting
みんな見落としてるけど、Rimuruは手の内を全部見せるのが大嫌いなんだよね。弱く見られるのが強みだし、Veldoraが“後ろ盾”だと思われてるのも重要。普通くん
PersonalContest1423
I don't think not showing his hand is a strength, its kind of the entire reason people keep attacking him, they think he's a manageable/killable threat specifically because he hides his capabilities. If they knew how strong he was they definitely would be far more hesitant to test his might with their half baked plans.
手の内隠すの強みちゃうやろ。それで舐められて襲われてるんやん。実力知ってたら半端な作戦で挑むのビビるわ。2ちゃん
mgedmin
I think Rimuru is hiding his strength because he doesn't want people to be afraid of him. He wants to be friends with everyone.
Rimuru、怖がられたくなくて力隠してるんだと思う…みんなと友達になりたいだけなのエモすぎるッ!感情くん
PersonalContest1423
原文
Yeah that is why. He thinks if he isn't scary and thought to be too strong he can have peace with everyone but its the exact opposite in reality. Because existing powers don't realize his true strength they see him as a rising threat which needs to be eliminated before it gets too strong and so he is constantly under attack and the would-be victim of schemers trying to prevent him from getting too strong; whereas if he was open about his power and the fact that he isnt a rising power but already an unbeatable existence humans cant overcome they would be forced to attempt peaceful coexistence whether they liked it or not since there wouldn't be an alternative.
そういうことだね。強さを隠せば平和にやれると思ってるけど逆で、新興の脅威と見られて狙われる。最初から圧倒的だと示せば共存するしかない。普通くん
UnWiseSageVibe
But then its just back firing on him every season. I just realized after reading the other comments on this tread but yeah people keep picking on him because they think he's weak.
てか他のコメ読んで気づいたけど、みんな彼を弱いと思って絡むから、毎シーズンそれがブーメランになってるんだよね笑ギャル
BoBab
原文
Orrrr the entire world would view him as a threat and would all be too terrified to do with business with him...and would view just confronting him ASAP with violence as their only option lest they be completely subjugated. The people who have gone after him so far have essentially been flies buzzing around him. And he's been able to mostly avoid collateral damage. Not showing his hand has been prudent and has avoided unneeded destruction and suffering. Also he has no interest in being a despot. And if he revealed the overwhelming strength of both him and Tempest then all the other nations would basically be assuming "Okay...so he's going to try and rule all of us, isn't he? Guess it's life or death then." He doesn't want that. He just wants to chill with everyone.
いや、力見せたら世界中が脅威認定して総攻撃やろ。隠してたから被害抑えられたし、支配者になる気もない。本人は皆とまったりしたいだけや。2ちゃん
KnightKal
well that is how any competition works. Both sides can plan all they like, collect all the intel, but the truth will only come out when they are on the field. Rimuru is hiding power, Greed's group is hiding power, now they will compare notes and see who was better prepared, and who was underestimating the other side haha
まあ勝負ってそういうもんだよね。RimuruもGreed側も力を隠してるし、どっちが準備上手だったか答え合わせだな笑普通くん
kalirion
It also fails if he decides to just one-shot the loli.
てか、あいつがロリをワンパンするって決めたら、それも普通に破綻するじゃん!ギャル
Routine_Owl57
i wish he just blitzed mariabel shes literally in range
射程内なんだから、さっさとmariabelを瞬殺してほしかったわwwwwおじ
raknor88
Don't forget, he has the Veldora ultimate skill that let's him summon Veldora whenever he wants.
忘れちゃダメだけど、彼には好きな時にVeldoraを召喚できるVeldoraのアルティメットスキルがあるんだよ。普通くん
Mizukin
That is poor writing, that universe became quite complex for the author, I think.
脚本ひどすぎる…あの世界観、作者にも複雑になりすぎたんだと思う。しんどい。感情くん
DeepDarkOs
Is the sequence over yet? I mean do you know that they didn't have thought of that or just you haven't seen it yet? It's strange isn't it ?
その流れもう終わったん?それ考えてなかったって分かるんか、まだ見てないだけなんか?変やろ?2ちゃん
saga999
原文
Lets start with the most basic, what do you think the writer wants us, the audience, to feel right now? I think it's obvious the writer is trying to create tension and get us excited for this fight. There are multiple episodes building up to this. So, how many of us thinks Rimuru is in the tiniest bit of trouble? Even ignoring the meta knowledge that main character isn't going to die and the show will be over this way, just based on what we know Rimuru is capable of, we know he's not in any trouble. What have they shown us that this won't be a stomp? Nothing. It doesn't matter that maybe they have tricks up their sleeves to make this not a complete stomp. The expectation of Rimuru stomping is based on what we've seen before. The expectation of the opponent being able to put up a fight is based on nothing. It's bad writing because it's a piss poor build up to this fight. A proper build up should make us question who will win, not question how big of a stomp this will be. It doesn't matter whether we will eventually be proven wrong because what matters is how we feel going into the fight.
作者は緊張感を出したいんだろうけど、Rimuruが負ける気が全然しない。相手が善戦できる根拠もなくて、正直この戦いの積み上げは下手だと思う。普通くん
DeepDarkOs
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The point was if they thought of anything from Stop rimuru teleporting, and if they had what is it, we don't know but we may find out in the next episode because the sequence just started.. if that will be effective or not which we would find out but that's not the point. You seems to rant and make up your own scenarios without actually reading what we are discussing in this particular thread. Of course you can rant as long as we want but do it somewhere it's relevant.
論点は「Rimuruの転移阻止策」の有無。効果は次回以降の考察対象。君は議論を読まず妄想で愚痴ってるだけ。関係ある場所でやって。考察くん
saga999
You seems to rant and make up your own scenarios without actually reading what we are discussing in this particular thread. You seems to be the one who don't know what you're actually discussing. This is what you responded to: That is poor writing, that universe became quite complex for the author, I think. I'm saying it's bad writing for the reasons I stated.
このスレ読まずに勝手な話を作ってキレてるのは君じゃん。俺は挙げた理由で、これは脚本が悪いって言ってるだけ。普通くん
DeepDarkOs
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You seems to be the one who don't know what you're actually discussing. This is what you responded to: You have selective amnesia or something where you can look beyond 2 comments? The original comment which started the thread was Greed plan was good on paper, but it fails if Rimuru just remembers he can open a portal back home and call reinforcements. There is no way to isolate him unless they manage a way to block that magic. And there was no indication they did anything towards that effect. And the comment you posted was a dumb argument on that Note. Which perfectly justify my own comment which was after that.. in the same context.. Then You came out of nowhere and out of context, started talking shit which is not even related. Work on your comprehensive skills brother. I'm saying it's bad writing for the reasons I stated. Are you going to be the restarted redditor who keep repeating same one line over and over because can't actually accept that they Fuck up or incerted themselves into a wrong thread. Like I said, if you want to rant go rant, but do it somewhere else where it's relevant.
お前こそ分かってないやろ。Greedの策はRimuruがポータルで援軍呼べば破綻、魔法封じ描写もなし=脚本悪いって話。文脈無視で絡むな、読解力鍛えろ。2ちゃん
saga999
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And the comment you posted was a dumb argument on that Note. It's not a dumb argument. It's reality. Which perfectly justify my own comment which was after that.. in the same context.. You argued against a comment saying it's bad writing, meaning you don't believe it is. What I said was in context. It is bad writing. And bad writing is the reason why the plan was bad. To pick a fight against Tempest in the first place, it's already a bad idea. And why did that happen? Bad writing. Not having a good enough plan to win the fight is bad writing. Even if they win the fight, they pissed of Milim. So even if they win, they will still lose. So why would they do that? Bad writing. And they know Rimuru is friends with Veldora. Gee, I wonder what happens if they kill Rimuru. The entire thing is nonsensical. It's only happening because of bad writing. What I previously said was just a different way to show you the bad writing because you don't believe it is. Bad writing is central to what we're talking about.
君のNoteへの反論こそズレてる。バカな主張じゃなく現実だよ。Tempestに喧嘩売る時点で無謀だし、勝ってもMilim怒らせる。全部脚本が悪いだけ。普通くん
PersonalContest1423
We know because rimuru never does anything smart unless Raphael suggests it
そりゃ分かるよ、rimuruはRaphaelが提案しないと賢いこと何もしないからな…無理w感情くん
DeepDarkOs
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In this particular scene it seems like he was preparing to face her because even if he runs away he would have to deal with her eventually. Even if we ignore that, in the previous episode they made plans about how they are going to lure the enemies in this expedition and deal with them, so all of this is actually already anticipated from his perspective. I'm not actually seeing your point here dude ? What "Smart" thing he was supposed to do here? (As we were talking about this instance for this comment thread)
この場面、逃げても結局彼女とやる羽目になるから迎え撃つ準備してたんやろ。想定内やん。何が“賢い”行動なん?2ちゃん
Routine_Owl57
it has been like that all this season ngl. Earlier season she was there but it still felt like he was in control now every action he does raphael does it
正直、今季ずっとそれ…前はRaphaelがいても彼が主導してたのに、今は行動全部Raphael任せ感あってしんどい。感情くん
Primo29
Felt like a child vs. child showdown. Good thing Rimuru switched outfits beforehand, or the whole scene would've been even funnier. LOL
子供同士の対決みたいだった。事前にRimuruが着替えててよかった、じゃなきゃもっと笑えるシーンになってたw普通くん
Frontier246
Milim is still confronting her tragic past in her explorer outfit though lol.
Milim、探検家コスのまま悲惨な過去と向き合ってて草2ちゃん
PowerlinxJetfire
She forgot to change before the cutscene.
カットシーン前に着替えるの忘れてたんだね。普通くん
thoughtlow
yeah major custom character in cutscene vibes
せやな、ムービー中のカスタムキャラ感すごいわ2ちゃん
ThrowCarp
And it's so great!
しかもめっちゃ良いんだよね!普通くん
Ikari_21
The whole time I was begging for him to change clothes cause I couldn’t take the situation serious with him in that explorer outfit lol
ずっと「服着替えて〜!」って思ってた笑 あの探検家コーデだと状況まじで真剣に見れないんだけど!ギャル
Suspicious_Deal4412
I would think that Maribelle would recognise that Rimuru's outfit as something from Earth.
Maribelleなら、Rimuruの服が地球っぽいものだって気づきそうだけどな。普通くん
ThrowCarp
I quite liked the clash of ideologies speeches though.
でも思想ぶつかり合うスピーチ、けっこう好きだったッ!感情くん
kawaiinessa
i wasnt expecting mariabel to pull up on rimuru like that next episode should be interesting
mariabelがあんな感じでrimuruに来るとは思わなかったわ!次回おもしろくなりそうじゃん!ギャル
Frontier246
She finally had enough of being a mastermind and this cour is almost over so it was about time she confronted the protagonist like a proper arc villain.
黒幕やるのも限界で、このクールも終盤だし、ついに主人公と対峙!ちゃんと章ボスしてて熱いッ!感情くん
Biggsy-32
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I think she's the cour villain, the arc villain is her grandfather. He's know to the world as a hero, was strong enough to lead in Luminous' church. And knows her true identity. He's in control of the East, Mariabels acts on her own but reports to him. I suspect her defeat to Rimiru is what unifies the western nations - in a war with him. And it's him who is the full arc villain for Rimiru to defeat, where perhaps far more of his strength will actually be needed to fight.
彼女はクール敵で、章の黒幕は祖父だと思う。英雄扱いでLuminousの教会を率れる強さもあるし、東を支配してる。MariabelsがRimiruに負けて西側が団結し、祖父が本命の敵になりそう。普通くん
darthvall
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Honestly, I'm disappointed that she confronted Rimuru directly. I guess she's just too confident with her manipulation power? Cause they've been building her as this ultimate schemere, so I thought she'd put another scheme again rather than be too direct. I mean, they've never shown her to be someone strong (unlike Hinata), so direct battle like this would definitely be heavily one sided (as usual lol). But let's see, maybe her scheme is more about the Chaos Dragon since everyone was very surprised on that.
正直、彼女がRimuruに直凸したのはガッカリや。策士感あったのに。Hinataほど強そうでもないし一方的やろw でもChaos Dragonが本命の策かもな。2ちゃん
Imalsome
Yeah like what if rimaru just fucking snapped forward and knocked her out in one punch? What kind of dumb fuck is she.
いや、もしRimaruが急に突っ込んでワンパンで気絶させたらどうすん普通くん
OldInstruction5368
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Last episode, she said this was a "do or die" moment. Basically, Godzilla threshold has been reached... quite literally, seeing the Chaos Dragon they dropped as a DISTRACTION. And the way Maribel was talking, it sounded like she was going to mind control Rimuru and that was only possible if she got close. Remote mind control would be insanely bonkers OP, so yeah, she would need to confront him directly. Killing Rimuru. was the backup if control wasn't possible. Still, it's pretty nuts to unleash the Chaos Dragon infront of the Destroyer, and then roll up to the splash zone.
前回「do or die」って言ってたし、陽動でChaos Dragon投下した時点でゴジラ閾値突破って考察できる。Maribelの口ぶりからRimuruを洗脳する狙いで、遠隔操作は流石にOP過ぎるから接近が必要だったんだと思われる。殺害は洗脳失敗時の保険。それにしてもDestroyerの前でChaos Dragon解き放つとか正気じゃないな。考察くん
genasugelan
She truly is absolutely braindead. Shion, who is with them right now, destroyed Clayman, who is a demon lord. Does she think she has a chance against Rimuru?
あの子まじで脳みそ死んでるじゃん。今一緒にいるShionが魔王Clayman倒したのに、Rimuruに勝てると思ってんの?やばくね?ギャル
defensive_username
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Does she think she has a chance against Rimuru? Well yes, cause Maribel is extremely overconfident. In her eyes, everyone she wants to control has been controlled, no one has shown signs of rejecting or resisting her Greed skill. So she's now overconfident that as long as they have a hint of Greed she can take control of them. To her, Rimuru must be filled with Greed, after all he is not only a monster but also attempting to 'control the world'. She's entered the main stage because at this point she truly believes there is no chance she can't control Rimuru, only that it might take a bit longer cause he's stronger. She has no idea about Raphael nor his other three Ultimate skills.
Maribelは過信してるんだよね。Greedが少しでもあればRimuruも支配できると思ってる。Raphaelや他の3つのUltimate skillのことは全然知らない。普通くん
Fluffles0119
Did everyone entirely miss the line last episode where she assumed and decided Rimuru slimed out her assassin before even conceiving that he broke her Greed? Like, Maribel is not the endgame supervillain, that is still squarely Yuuki, of course she's going to lose decently quick lol
前回のセリフみんな見逃したんか?あいつ、リムルがグリード壊したとか考える前に、暗殺者スライムにされたって勝手に決めつけとったやん。マリベルはラスボスちゃうで、やっぱユウキやろ。そら普通に速攻で負けるわなwww2ちゃん
Astray
She might not have any idea about Ultimate skills in general. They're incredibly rare as best we can tell even though Rimuru is mega broken with a bunch of them.
彼女、Ultimate skills全般を知らないのかも。Rimuruが大量に持っててぶっ壊れだけど、普通はめちゃレアっぽいし。普通くん
TheWickedGod
Its probably greed and the fact that this is pretty much her new game+ after in her words basically controlling the world in her past life.
欲深すぎるのと、前世で本人曰く世界ほぼ支配してた後のニューゲーム+状態って感じなんだろうな…強すぎッ!感情くん
MrsLucienLachance
Underestimating our slime seems to be a running theme with the big bads of the series.
うちのスライムを甘く見るの、シリーズの大ボスたちのお約束になってるっぽいね。普通くん
DeepDarkOs
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Because that's the world knows. Orc disaster? Youm killed it. 20k Soldier's ? Veldora. Killed a Demon lord, oh it's the weakest one and the human know how weak he was. Fight with Hinata the saint.. it's a stalemate. Tempest is a Propoganda mechine, none of his actually actions which are indeed unbelievablyOp ( bringing dead back, killing all 20k people, having 4 ultimate skills ) are known to the world outside of a few individuals.
世間が知ってるのはそういうことやからな。オーク災害?ユウムが倒したことになっとる。2万の兵?ヴェルドラのせい。魔王殺しも「最弱のやつやし人間も弱いの知ってた」扱い。ヒナタ戦は引き分け。テンペストはプロパガンダ装置やな。死者蘇生や2万殺し、究極能力4つとか、ガチでヤバい実績は一部しか知らんのよ2ちゃん
MrsLucienLachance
I'm not saying it doesn't make sense from their perspective lol, just that it's what keeps happening.
いや、彼ら目線だと分かるんよw ただ毎回それ起きてるよねってだけ!感情くん
DeepDarkOs
Well, yeah. That's only natural.
まあ、うん。それは当然だよね。普通くん
i_reddit_too_mcuh
What I want to know is...how did she get there so quickly? It was supposed to take the exploration team 2 months by carriage to even get to the ruins. Sure Mariabel started from a different location, but Rimuru and co. have only been there for 3 days.
知りたいのは…なんであんな早く着けたんや?調査隊は馬車で遺跡まで2ヶ月のはず。Mariabelは別地点とはいえRimuru達まだ3日やぞ。2ちゃん
Lelouch37
You know what, this is a really great question and probably a plot hole
それな、これかなり良い質問だし、多分プロットホールだと思う。普通くん
WhoiusBarrel
Went from Indiana Jones Rimuru to Gobta using a gun on Ranga. You know shits real when Milim goes serious.
Indiana Jones RimuruからRangaに銃ぶっ放すGobtaで草。Milimが本気になるとガチでヤバいって分かるわ。2ちゃん
Farmaceut7
You know shit is real when Milim doesnt finish her sentence with - noda.
Milimが語尾に「なのだ」を付けない時点で、ガチでヤバいって分かる。普通くん
justking1414
Girl looked seriously unnerved by her old pet showing up
昔のペットが現れて、あの子ガチで動揺してた…無理もないッ!感情くん
Farmaceut7
This was an old pet that got brutaly murdered then revived as chaos dragon thanks to her Demon Lord evolution which she then had to seal away because it was just an empty shell with no soul. Tbh I would be unnerved too.
昔のペット惨殺→魔王進化でカオスドラゴン化。でも魂ない空っぽで封印する羽目に。そらワイでもビビるわ。2ちゃん
SolomonBlack
Imagine having your entire John Wick arc turn into Old Yeller... shit would break anyone.
自分のJohn Wick編が丸ごとOld Yeller展開になるとか…そんなん誰でも心折れるわ。無理すぎる…感情くん
justking1414
Reminds me of an improv scene I saw recently titled: “John wick realizes his dog was just hiding under his bed”
最近見た即興劇「John Wickが犬はベッドの下に隠れてただけだと気づく」を思い出した。普通くん
justking1414
True. Just terrifying to see Milim that genuinely unnerved
それな。Milimがあそこまでガチで動揺してるの見るの、怖すぎるッ…感情くん
_naglfar
She actually did end with a -noda before she left Rimuru.
彼女、Rimuruと別れる前にちゃんと語尾が「〜のだ」だったね。普通くん