+57
PrincipeDeiPoveri
I won't deny that Tetsuo's behavior was bothering me, until I remembered that he's a fucking child soldier with zero social experience.
確かにテツオの行動ムカついたんだけど、よく考えたら彼ってマジで社会経験ゼロの子ども兵士じゃんって思ったら納得したわ笑ギャル+17
mekerpan
On the other hand, Sagami's behavior is actually FAR more childish than Tetsuo's .
同意。確かに相模の行動の方がよっぽど子供っぽいよね。普通くん+18
BusouDrago
We have an Adult beefing with a child/teenager
我が目に映るは、大人が未熟な子供相手に格の違いを見せつける哀れな光景。サガミよ、その行為はまさに幼き者の領域に自ら堕ちた証なり。中二病+14
Frontier246
It takes a manchild to make his giant Kaiju puppet his own catchphrase.
確かに。自分の怪獣に自分の決めゼリフを言わせる時点で、相模の方が遥かに子供っぽいよな。普通くん+9
Frontier246
He's a socially awkward kid just trying to do his best and make friends then he's got this adult basically telling him to die and try to murder him. When all he ever wanted do was fight Kaiju and help people, and now he has to feel what it's like for someone to hate him for, frankly, no reason.
He still hasn't grown up much from that isolated little boy who first entered Yuki's cockpit.
あのガキ社会性ボロボロやけど必死に頑張って友達作ろうとしてただけやん。そしたら大人が「死ね」って言って殺そうとしてくるとかガチで草。ただ怪獣と戦って人助けしたかっただけなのに、理由もなく嫌われるって経験させられるとか可哀想すぎるわ。ユキのコクピットに入ったあの頃の孤立したガキから全然成長できてないンゴね…2ちゃん+10
PrincipeDeiPoveri
True, in fact the annoyance went away immediately after I remembered who it was.
確かに。誰だか思い出したらイライラもすぐ収まったわ。普通くん+6
Beowolf_0
Some audiences (me included) raised this point since a few episodes back already, yet some will still view him as "a weak character".
マジそれな!?もう何話も前から言われてたじゃん。でもさ、やっぱり「弱いキャラ」って見方する人いるんだよね〜。てかアダム、子ども兵士って設定を忘れちゃダメだよ!ギャル+8
chalo1227
As in because the conversation? he was isolated for super long , you know we talk about having a thick skin, bro is literally no skin he has not talked to anyone really before and now he talk to a hater 1st thing ever, and a full on para social hater, that he has never met
確かに。長期間隔離されてて会話経験ゼロなのに、初めて話す相手がアンチってマジキツいよな。しかも会ったこともないパラソーシャルなやつだし。そりゃああなるわ。普通くん+5
Feisty-Principle-216
Yes we got the the first 11 times he had a pity party. This episode could have been half as long and conveyed the same message.
I like the premise of this show but combine this with the overly long backstory for the bad guy and the pacing of this show is just so off.
同意。テツオの自己憐憫は11回も見せられれば十分だ。このエピソードは半分の尺で同じメッセージを伝えられたはず。作品の前提は面白いと思うが、悪役の長すぎる過去編と相まって、ペース配分が明らかに狂っているという考察ができる。考察くん+5
Frontier246
原文
It's Yukio vs Hercules! Yukio may be down an arm and damaged, but Tetsuo's incredible piloting skill can almost make up the difference. But I can't believe Sagami actually has his Kajiu using his "Bach" catchphrase!
Was the Colonel flashing his pecks necessary? His fangirls certainly think so.
I guess credit where credit is due, the plan is pretty ingenious to attack the Mall at the exact time where Ao is out and just having fun with her team...and Land of Men does NOTHING without her asking him too. Leaving Mishima Mall utterly defenseless.
Aw, Yukio had a chair installed in case Tetsuo ever brought home a girl...I mean, a friend into the cockpit to hang out! Actually, Yukio was designed around having a full on party and BBQ in his cockpit! They really thought ahead! And Tetsuo's dad finally did something right.
They landed a hit! Aaaaand took damage. Yeah, this isn't going to be an easy fight one way or another.
This is a massive crisis situation and a critical one for Tetsuo, so all he can think to do is...communicate and try to make sense of what the Colonel is doing. I mean, he's gone through so many experiences, he's grown from his experience in the Mall, maybe he can take that and actually legitimately communicate with someone?
It's just too bad the first person he goes out of his way to communicate with is a deranged lunatic who only cares about glory and wanting Tetsuo dead. Having someone hate him so much...want to kill him so much...does heavy emotional damage to Tetsuo. Not to mention being unable to beat a Kaiju in a fight, the one thing he's supposed to be good at, hurts even more.
Sometimes your Mecha best friend needs to take back control and just tackle a Kaiju to help you get away when you're in no state to pilot. But while Yukio can't find the words to comfort Tetsuo, what with blaming himself for Tetsuo's solitude, Hagane is there to relate to the fear and pain he's going through. The power of a human connection is strong!
Wait, someone communicating that the Mall is under attack!? I mean, that's bad, but how would someone have access to a communication system that can reach Yukio?
まあ、ユキオ対ヘラクレスか。片腕やられてるけど鉄雄の操縦技術でカバーしてるな。でも佐賀美が自分の怪獣に「バッハ」って言わせてるのは笑ったな。
大佐の胸筋露出は必要だったか?ファンは大喜びだろうけど。
確かに計画自体は賢い。アオがチームと遊んでるタイミングでモールを襲うなんてな。人間の国は彼女に頼まれなきゃ何もしないし、三島モールは無防備になるわけだ。
ユキオに椅子を付けたのは、鉄雄が女の子…いや友達を連れてきた時のためか。実際はコックピットでパーティーとBBQができる設計らしい。よく考えてるな。鉄雄の父さんもようやく正しいことしたし。
一撃当てたかと思ったらダメージも食らった。まあ楽な戦いにはならんだろうな。
鉄雄が大佐と話そうとするのは、彼なりの成長の証だろう。モールでの経験を経て、ちゃんとコミュニケーション取ろうとしてるんだな。
ただ相手が名誉と鉄雄の死だけを望む狂人なのが残念だ。あれだけ憎まれて殺されたいと思われるのは、精神的にキツいだろうな。自分の得意分野である怪獣戦でも負けてるし。
時にはメカの親友が制御を取り戻して、怪獣にタックルして逃がしてくれるのも必要だ。ユキオは言葉で慰められないけど、ハガネが鉄雄の恐怖と痛みに寄り添ってる。人間の繋がりの力は強いドライおじ+6
HolyDragSwd2500
Tetsuo and Yukio battling Heracles.
Tetsuo having a breakdown and Hagane relating to him 😭 Tetsuo had Yukio , so he was never alone
Mysterious message with a warning 😱
鉄雄と雪緒がヘラクレスと戦ってるシーン。
鉄雄がブレイクしてて、それに鋼が共感してるの泣ける😭 鉄雄には雪緒がいたから、決して孤独じゃなかったんだな。
謎の警告メッセージ怖すぎ😱普通くん+6
thewildcard02
This episode dragged, quite a bit. Just felt like it was 20 minutes of people crying.
今回の話、引き伸ばし感ハンパなかったンゴ……20分ずっと泣いてるだけやんけ2ちゃん+6
Successful_Sea_5631
It was exactly that, in fact, and a complete net zero. Nothing happened. They just added some new scratches to the robot, which they will undoubtedly "deus ex" their way out of later.
確かに、まさにその通りだと思う。20分間ただ泣いてるだけだったし、話が全く進まなかったな。ロボットに新しい傷がついただけで、後でどうせ都合よく解決するんだろうな。普通くん+5
reaperow
原文
Things are looking really bad,
Tetsuo was genuinely about to make progress by attempting to talk but Solidus Snake/Sagami just had to be a jerk about it,
Tetsuo always had Yukio with him but he also needed Hagane in that moment to relate with him, this was making me tear up a lil too.
Yukio reaching his hand out too was wholesome, but who is calling them? Could it be his dad or some other survivors?
I thought Hagane was gonna be a 2nd pilot maybe we can get that next ep, i think they'd make a great team. Let's hope they're not too late
状況はかなり厳しいな…。鉄雄が対話を試みてようやく前進しかけたのに、相模/ソリッドスネークが邪魔しやがった。
鉄雄はいつもユキオに支えられてきたけど、あの瞬間はハガネにも共感してほしかったんだろう。ちょっとウルッときた。
ユキオが手を差し伸べたシーンも良かった。でも電話してるのは誰だ?父親か、他の生存者か?
ハガネが2人目のパイロットになるかと思ったけど、それは次回以降かな。この2人、良いコンビになりそうだ。間に合ってほしい。考察くん+5
