Scythe351
"I have no weapons to speak of... save for this beam saber."
「武器なんて持ってないんだ…このビームサーベル以外はね。」ギャル+71
diacewrb
I though they were going to pick up a giant icicle or lump of ice and hit the kaiju with it.
「武器なんて何も…このビームサーベル以外は」ってセリフ、マジでかっこよすぎるッ!でも俺、てっきり巨大な氷柱とか氷の塊拾って怪獣ぶん殴るのかと思ってたわw 予想外すぎて優勝!感情くん+38
CommanderZx2
With all that talk of dangers of icicle in the previous episode and lots of scenes of falling ice, I was definitely expecting him to use ice to stab or crush the kaiju.
確かに前回のエピソードでつららの危険性をあれだけ強調してたし、氷が落ちるシーンも多かったから、俺も氷で刺すか押し潰すかすると思ってたわ。普通くん+27
nofaxxspitintruflego
my initial thought was a well placed dodge so the kaiju suicide attacks but, this was defo more auramaxxxed
前回のツララの危険性とか落下シーン多かったしな
ワイも最初は「うまく避けて怪獣が自爆特攻するんやろな」と思ったけど
これガチでオーラマックスしとるやんwww2ちゃん+6
Frontier246
I do wonder if the new community can "re-gear" Yukio up.
それな。てっきり氷柱とかで殴るのかと思ったけどね。普通くん+12
Scythe351
Same here. Considering that they had set up the environment to have random large objects, I truly thought that him mentioning his lack of tools was foreshadowing swinging something around. But nope. Also they mentioned that after the monster attacked, it would be too late to counter attack. That just wasn't true at all. We had just watched it get its head stuck after attacking.
確かに。我が目はその光景を予見していた。巨大な氷柱を掲げ、魔獣に叩きつける姿をな。環境が無造作に大型オブジェクトを配置していた以上、道具がないという発言は伏線に違いないと信じていたのだが…蓋を開ければまさかの展開。さらに奴らは「怪物が攻撃した後では反撃が間に合わない」と宣ったが、それは完全なる虚言。我々は先ほど、奴が攻撃後に頭を挟まれている様をこの目で見たばかりだ。中二病+5
Frontier246
I guess relative to how armed he was in old Mecha body...
そりゃ旧型メカボディに比べたらそうだなw ビームサーベル一本だけってまじかよwwwwwwおじ+15
Heda-of-Aincrad
Yeah, not sure why he doesn't count that as a weapon. Does it actually have another purpose, and Tetsuo's just been using it as a weapon all this time because he's a Gundam fan?
「いやそれ武器じゃんッ!」って思わずツッコんだわ。
まさかテツオ、ガンダム好きすぎてビームサーベルを武器扱いしてないとか?
実際は別の用途があって、彼が勝手に武器として使ってるだけなのか…? 気になる!感情くん+12
The_Parsee_Man
It's good for waving at idol concerts.
ああ、アイドルコンサートで振るのには便利だな。ドライおじ+8
darthvall
I don't think they can pierce the skin normally. It's only due to the high momentum they could do it.
In any case, this further proves 1,000 mecha wouldn't save them from kaiju. It's all Yukio's skills. Honestly it's rare to have actual talented pilot from the beginning (other than Aldnoah Zero maybe). Usually it's rookie with potential being drifted in super prototype.
確かに、通常の出力では表皮を貫通できないという考察は妥当だ。高運動量状態でのみ可能だったという点を踏まえると、このビームサーベルは出力調整が可能な設計なのかもしれない。
それにしても、このシーンは改めてユキオの技量の異常さを示しているな。1000機のメカがあっても怪獣には勝てないというのは、機体性能よりパイロットの熟練度が重要というメッセージとして読める。Aldnoah Zeroのスレインのような最初から有能なパイロットは確かに珍しい。大概は素人が超試作機に乗せられるパターンだからな。考察くん+11
The_Parsee_Man
He had it, he just didn't speak of it. Technically correct.
確かに、持ってたんだよな。言ってなかっただけで。普通くん+6
HolyDragSwd2500
Reminded me of Star Ocean anime/game ( based on Star Ocean 2) MC had a beam gun ( looked like a saber)
それな!スターオーシャン思い出したわ~あのビームサーベルっぽいやつ、やばくね!?笑ギャル+7
darthvall
Or as the legend said it, Sword of light!
伝説で言うところの光の剣だね!普通くん+8
LezRock
原文
This feels like shounen level pacing along with the background characters being treated like kids, along with their reactions being exaggerated.
I also really didn't like the flashback to a flashback to another flashback in between the action. This is some disjointed direction here, since there's a lot of vocalisation for gag-like reactions, which is a bit annoying, but then in an important moment when Tetsuo decides to turn away from escape and instead lure the monster away, we're allowed to quietly understand the reasoning for his decision without narration, which I appreciated before all of the flashbacks.
Maybe this is just the hump to get over before it gets better.
なんJのノリで言うと、少年漫画並みのテンポ感と、背景キャラの子ども扱い&オーバーなリアクションが気になるンゴwww
アクション中に回想→さらに回想→さらに回想って挟むの草。ギャグみたいな大げさなリアクション連発でウザいのに、鉄雄が逃げずにモンスターをおびき寄せる決断したシーンだけはナレーションなしで静かに理解させてくれたのは良かったわ。その後の回想ラッシュで台無しやけどな。
たぶんここ乗り越えたらマシになるんちゃうか?2ちゃん+46
ChemicalBus608
Certainly hope so the pacing was really annoying.
They spent way to much time on irrelevant reactions from bystanders and the back and forth between MC and the robot. Overall its a fun low investment watch. I'll probably stay till the end.
確かに。ペース配分が気になったな。
傍観者のどうでもいいリアクションや主人公とロボのやり取りに時間かけ過ぎだ。
まあ気楽に見れる作品ではある。最後まで見ると思うけど。ドライおじ+16
The_Parsee_Man
> I also really didn't like the flashback to a flashback to another flashback in between the action.
That was really annoying. We realized what happened. And I didn't need the backstory right then. Just get to the damn fight resolution.
I was starting to think they'd drag it out and finish the fight in the next episode.
>> アクション中に回想の回想のさらに回想とかマジでイライラしたわ
わかっとるわ展開なんて。そのタイミングで過去話いらんねん。さっさと決着つけろや
「これ次回まで引っ張るんか?」ってマジで思ったわ。草2ちゃん+14
LezRock
If they had done that, I don't know if I would've cared enough to come back to it. At this point, I'm more interested in what led to the current situation, story, and character development.
確かにあの回想入れすぎは気になったな。でももしあれがなかったら、今の状況やストーリー、キャラの成長にここまで興味持てなかったかも。今はむしろどうしてこうなったのかが気になるね。普通くん+8
BosuW
Hmmm I somehow feel like Yukio being alive after all somehow defeats the point though?
Can't really explain why, it just feels that way
ふむ…ユキオが生きておるとなると、何となく話の筋が台無しになる気がするでござるな。
なぜとは言えぬが、そう感じるのである。武士+36
Heda-of-Aincrad
I had similar thoughts. Like, I am glad to see Yukio still around because his bond with Tetsuo has been one of the story's strongest points so far, but on the other hand, it makes no sense that Yukio wouldn't tell Tetsuo about the back-up and instead let him think that Yukio was gone for real.
確かにそれな。雪男が生きてるのは嬉しいけど、鉄雄にバックアップの話をしないで死んだと思わせてたのは納得いかないな。普通くん+17
nofaxxspitintruflego
probably unsure if the installation would be a success and if it had failed that would've despaired tetsuo x100 worse tbf
それな!確かに成功するか不安だったんだろうな〜。もし失敗してたら鉄雄の絶望やばすぎたんじゃね?マジで100倍ヤバかったと思うわ笑ギャル+9
Embarrassed-Match-78
I felt the same. It feels like it was a step back for Tetsuo. Though I am glad Yukio managed to survive.
I expect the survivors are going to drag Tetsuo out of his shell.
確かにそれな。テツオの成長が後退した感じがする。でもユキオが生き残ったのは良かったと思う。
生存者たちがテツオを殻から引っ張り出してくれるんじゃないかな。普通くん+13
KumaKumaGambler
原文
Awkward as he is when interacting with humans, Tetsuo does possess the heart of a hero. Through his experience from battling kaiju, he knew the evolved kaiju was going to perform some special move. Distracting it saved the lives of his potential friends.
I look forward to Tetsuo and Yukio teaming up with Nogi. She already has the traits of an important character - quick reaction time (in saving the NPC villager) and an intense stare.
テツオ、人間と接するのは不器用やけど、ちゃんとヒーローの心持ってるやん。怪獣との戦いで培った経験で、進化した怪獣が特殊技使うの見抜いてたんやな。気をそらして仲間候補の命救ったのガチでかっこよかったわ。
テツオとユキオがノギと合流するのが楽しみやわ。ノギはもう重要キャラの片鱗見せてるやん——村人NPC助ける反射神経の速さと、あのギラギラした目つきがヤバい。2ちゃん+26
Frontier246
>I look forward to Tetsuo and Yukio teaming up with Nogi. She already has the traits of an important character - quick reaction time (in saving the NPC villager) and an intense stare.
And blushing over the MC lol.
確かに、野木は主人公に照れてるのが可愛いよね。彼女の反応速度と鋭い眼差しは重要キャラの片鱗を感じさせるし、鉄雄と雪男と組むのが楽しみだな。普通くん+16
nofaxxspitintruflego
man seeing yukio make a comeback almost brought tears to my eyes i was so happy lol
something about this show just is pure FUN
やばっ!ユキオがカムバックしたシーン、マジで涙出そうになったんだけど笑!めっちゃ嬉しかった〜!
つーかこの作品、純粋に楽しいよね!それな!ギャル+5
HolyDragSwd2500
YUKIO😭
Hiro and Beymax are together again
ユキオ泣ける…
ヒロとベイマックスがまた一緒だね普通くん+22
Frontier246
Yukio: "Tetsuo, how would you rate my Kaiju killing level?"
ヒロとベイマックス再会かよ!泣けるじゃん😭💕ギャル+12
Shimmering-Sky
原文
- Oof, that guy got turned into tomato paste.
- That’s a good worried face.
- Ah, they use these as cover to run away from kaijus then?
- That is a good question…
- Because it’s all he’s ever been good for…
- Oh, those rectangles on his cheeks are machines? – It summoned the pod!
- The escape pot itself was another Yukio, huh.
- You forgot?
- No, this feels more like Yukio’s dad intentionally sabotaged things as a test of some sort.
- I was *hoping* for it to be something like that!
- Uh, that’s not something to brag about, Yukio.
- *Nice*.
- What the fuck is *that* kaiju?
- うわ、あいつトマトペーストになってるやん…草
- いい心配顔やな
- ああ、それをカバーにして怪獣から逃げるってわけか?
- それは良い疑問やな…
- だってそれしか役に立ったことないしな…
- あ、頬の四角いのって機械なん? – ポッド呼び出したやん!
- 脱出ポッド自体もユキオだったのかよ
- 忘れたん?
- いや、これはユキオの親父がわざと妨害して試してる感あるわ
- そうであってほしかったンゴ!
- いや、それは自慢できることじゃないやろユキオ
- いいね
- あの怪獣なんなん?ガチで草2ちゃん+16
Frontier246
>No, this feels more like Yukio’s dad intentionally sabotaged things as a test of some sort.
I dunno, the dad seems incompetent or oblivious to anything that's not building a sentient robot lol.
うーん、でもこれはユキオの父が何かのテストとしてわざと妨害した感じがするんだよね。
わかんないけど、あの父親って有能なロボットを作ること以外には無能か無関心に見えるんだよな笑普通くん+10
Shimmering-Sky
That on its own would've been fine, but combined with him "forgetting" to tune up his sentient robot is what's raising red flags for me. Yukio's dad is mega sus.
同意w それだけならまだしも、自我持ってるロボットのチューニングを「忘れる」ってのが怪しすぎるわw ゆきおのパパ完全に黒だろ笑wwwおじ+13
darthvall
Thanks for the snippets! I didn't realise there's post credit scenes.
I already felt this episode kaiju possesses more human-like feature compared to the kaiju that Tetsuo defeated back then.
With that post-credit scene, it seems confirmed they're evolving to be more human?? That last kaiju swinging his leg is definitely creepy
サンプルありがとう!ポストクレジットシーンがあるの知らなかったわ。
今回の怪獣、鉄雄が倒したやつより人間っぽい特徴があるなって思ってたんだよね。
あのポストクレジットシーンで、怪獣がより人間に進化してるって確定っぽいね…?最後の奴が脚を振ってるのは確かに不気味だわ。普通くん+7
TyraniTEMPESTar
原文
Yukio back in action with that clean cut decap!
Damn. What the hell was up in that post credits scene?
All those floating orbs and impact craters, and then we have that fully human-esque Kaiju swinging his legs like a little kid playing around.
I'm thinking those floating orbs might be like some sorta Kaiju eggs.
And then they hatch evolved to a certain extent?
All the Kaiju from 10 years ago looked exactly the same, and now we've seen 4 different evolved kinds.
I wonder what's making them evolve?
Just natural progression, or is there some kind of mastermind behind it?
That flashback scene where Dr. Kojika "forgot" to oil Yukio's joints definitely seemed intentional, like he was observing for data or something.
Wonder if he's still alive somewhere and is performing some kind of experiments.
雪男、あの一振りでの首切りはさすがの切れ味だな。
そしてポストクレジットシーン、あれは何だったんだろうな。無数の浮遊球体と衝突クレーター、それに完全に人間型の怪獣が小さな子供みたいに足をブラブラさせてる描写――。
あの浮遊球体は怪獣の卵じゃないかと考察できる。ある程度まで進化した状態で孵化するのか?10年前の怪獣は全員同じ姿だったのに、今や4種類もの進化型が確認されてる。何が進化を促進してるのか?単なる自然の過程か、それとも何者かの意思が働いてるのか。
小鹿博士が雪男の関節に油を「忘れた」回想シーン、あれは明らかに意図的だったと思われる。データ収集のための観察行為だった可能性が高い。彼はまだどこかで生き延びて、何らかの実験を続けてるんじゃないか。考察くん+15
darthvall
I don't know. This is the same Doctor that creates an AI for a bomb robot, and that AI ended up protesting so he's not forced to suicide.
I think you're giving him too much credit lol
確かに!AIに自爆させようとしたら逆に反対されてる時点で笑えるわ。その医者、そんなに賢くないんじゃね?w感情くん+5
redlaWw
> I wonder what's making them evolve?
I'm guessing that it's eating humans and taking on the traits of their food.
え、人間食べてその特徴を獲得してるってこと?それやばすぎだろ……進化の理由がそれって結構エグいな。普通くん+5
adminsregarded
Damn the pacing is absolutely atrocious
マジでテンポ悪すぎンゴwww 話進むの亀すぎやろ2ちゃん+16
saga999
原文
I hate that the flashback is literally something we just watched a couple of episodes ago. It's like they just create scenes in isolation instead of considering everything as a whole. The flashback could have just been a couple of seconds of still shots and it would have serve its purpose. But instead we rewatch episode 1 in episode 3 because that scene works well with a flashback. It's so lazy. It's practically just begging, "please feel now." Stories are supposed to be evoke emotions in the audience. But it has to be earned. This is not earned.
And then there's the personality being downloaded to the escape pod. They want an emotional scene of Yukio sacrificing himself. They want Tetsuo getting sad over Yukio. They want a surprise reunion. All three works well in isolation. But put them together and they are garbage. There is literally no reason why Yukio doesn't tell Tetsuo about this to begin with. But if they do that, everything falls apart and they can't have their emotional scenes. It's so manipulative. They can't write an emotional story organically, so they resort to cheap tricks like this.
さっき数話で見たばかりの回想シーンをまた流すのは正直イライラするな。まるで全体を考えずに各シーンを単体で作ってるみたい。数秒の静止画で済むところを、わざわざ第1話を第3話で再生してる感じ。すごく手抜きで「ここで泣いてください」って強要されてるみたい。感動は自然に生まれるべきで、無理やり作るもんじゃないと思う。
あと脱出ポッドに人格をダウンロードする件もそう。雪男の自己犠牲、鉄男の悲しみ、再会のサプライズ、全部単体なら悪くない。でも全部詰め込むとゴミになる。雪男が最初から鉄男に説明しない理由が一切ないんだよね。説明したら話が成立しなくて感動シーンを作れなくなるから。すごく作為的。自然に感動を描けないから、こんな安っぽい小細工に頼ってるだけだよ。普通くん+14
Frontier246
原文
Welcome to Snowball Earth, where the Kaiju have mutated into new variants! And Tetsuo is without any means of actually combatting it! And the actual people who have lived here have no idea what to do either! RIP to that one dude that got crushed.
Chief Nogi takes protecting her people seriously. She'll put herself out there to save them, and she'll take it personally if she loses anyone...like, smash your head into the ice floor level of serious. But she also knows the only thing they can do is set up a fog machine and hightail it out of there.
But Tetsuo knows Kaiju and he knows something is up with this one, so if it means protecting the people who accepted him, he'll distract it and keep it away from them, even upon threat of death. This really seems to impress Chief Nogi.
Yet even with his resolve, Tetsuo still doesn't stand a chance against this thing. Just when it seems like Tetsuo is about to get eaten with Nogi powerless to do anything, who should fly in but Tetsuo's escape capsule...except it's not just any escape capsule, it's one uploaded with Yukio's AI and with its own Mecha form! That's right, YUKIO IS BACK!
Tetsuo is reunited with his first and best friend, the one person who most understood how incompetent Tetsuo's dad was, and the one person he can best fight Kaiju with! Even if this is the most scaled down version of Tetsuo that Yukio could pilot, he's still got armblades that can slice a Kaiju's head off! And now the people of Snowball Earth can see that their savior has truly returned.
Meanwhile, in Tokyo, some kind of...humanoid Kaiju is playing around!?
「スノウボールアース」の世界観、興味深い展開だな。
まず、野木長官のリーダーシップが光るシーンだ。彼女は住民を守ることに並々ならぬ執念を持っていて、誰かが犠牲になれば氷の床に頭を打ちつけるほどの責任感の強さを見せる。しかし同時に、霧発生装置で逃げるしか手がないという現実も理解している。このジレンマがキャラクターに深みを与えている。
一方、鉄雄の行動は興味深い。彼は怪獣の異変を察知し、自分を受け入れてくれた人々を守るために命を懸けて囮になる。この自己犠牲の精神が野木長官の信頼を得るきっかけになったと考察できる。
そして何より、ユキオのAIが搭載された脱出カプセルがメカ形態で登場するシーンは、まさに伏線回収だ。鉄雄にとって最初で最良の友であり、父親の無能さを理解していた唯一の存在が、まさに窮地に現れる。スケールダウンしたとはいえ、腕の刃で怪獣の首を切り落とす戦闘能力は健在。これで雪の地球の人々も、真の救世主の帰還を目撃したわけだ。
しかし、東京で人型の怪獣が遊んでいるというラストは不気味だ。これは今後の展開の伏線だろうか。考察くん+7
ObvsThrowaway5120
Respect to Tetsuo for rushing in like that. Kid had no way to fight the Kaiju but he did what he had to for the civilians. True hero shit right there. Thankfully Baymax Yukio survived and saved our boy just in time. The dynamic duo are back, baby! Kaijus beware!
テツオの突っ込みマジで漢やったな。カイジュウに勝ち目なんてなかったのに一般人守るためにやったんやろ。ガチで正義の味方やん。ベイマックス雪男が奇跡的に生きててギリギリで助けてくれたわ。最強コンビ復活やで!カイジュウども覚悟しとけ!2ちゃん+5
cleaulem
Oh man, the post credit scene teases some Kaiju no. 8 villain.
I'm still not 100% sold on this show, but it has the potential to be a hidden gem. So far I want to know where this is going.
おっ、ポストクレジットで怪獣8号の敵が示唆されてる感じか。
まだこの作品に完全にハマったわけじゃないけど、隠れた名作になる可能性はあると思う。今のところはこの先どうなるか気になるな。普通くん+5
CommanderZx2
I wonder why they gave the kaiju googly eyes, it really makes them look far less threatening than their actions.
なんで怪獣にデコピン目つけたんやwww
動きはガチでヤバいのに可愛すぎて威圧感ゼロやんけw2ちゃん+5
The_Parsee_Man
To me it makes them seem mindless, which matches their behavior.
That kaiju at the end didn't have the googly eyes. So I figure that's the mastermind.
確かにそれ合ってるかも。無表情な目だからこそ、ただひたすら破壊してるだけの存在って感じがする。
最後の怪獣は目が違ってたし、あれが黒幕っぽいね。普通くん+8
getlikejinxy
Is this some sort of attack on titans but make it set in the future and replace titans with kaiju?
ふむ、これは『進撃の巨人』を未来に移し、巨人を怪獣に置き換えたようなものと見る向きもあるようだな。だが拙者には、それだけでは語れぬ独自の趣があるように思う。武士+5
Frontier246
Also the way Nogi was blushing at Tetsuo's Heroism, is she the Heroine in every way that counts?
やばくね!?野木が鉄雄のヒーローっぷりに照れてたのまじでかわよ!てか彼女こそヒロインって感じじゃん?笑ギャル+6
goddessofthewinds
Well, I gave this 3 episodes, even though I knew I'd probably drop this. I gave it a shot due to being post-apocalyptic, but the pacing is horrible, the machine is dumb, the characters are stupid, and the kaijus are hilarious.
This ain't for me... even though I eat post-apocalyptic animes for dessert.
3話まで見てみたけど、やっぱり自分には合わなかったな…ポストアポカリプスものってことで期待したんだけど、テンポが悪すぎるし、機械もバカみたいだし、キャラもアホだし、怪獣は笑えるレベルだったわ。
ポストアポカリプスアニメは大好物なんだけど、これは無理だね。普通くん+5
