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穏やかでやさしい世界

2026.6.19 r/anime

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穏やかでやさしい世界
鉄男の純粋な思いに触れ、相模は戦意を喪失していく。駆けつけたゆまは自嘲する相模を強く否定し、相模への思いを叫ぶ。そして、相模たち“E-RDEの灯”が、過酷な世界を生き延びてきた壮絶な過去が語られる。
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KanyeBetOnTrump
The savior never stops saving. Damn I love this show!
救世主は救い続けるものだよな。普通にいいアニメだ。ドライおじ
Frontier246
A true savior saves even his enemy (provided they're not Kaiju).
まじかよw 本物の救世主は敵も救うってか(怪獣以外はな)笑wwwおじ
KanyeBetOnTrump
Being kaiju isn’t the problem, it’s what they do that is. He has no issue with land of men
怪獣であること自体が問題なんじゃなくて、その行動が問題なんやろ。奴は人間の土地には文句ないみたいやな。2ちゃん
reaperow
The savior will always do the right thing!!
救世主はいつだって正しいことをするんだ!!普通くん
KumaKumaGambler
原文
I still don't like Sagami, but from the perspective of those kids whom he saved, he is indeed their saviour. Given how Sagami is not dead by now and how everyone is crying in the preview of the next episode, I am predicting the story will give him the ultimate redemption arc by sacrificing himself to save Tetsuo and everyone else from the snow humanoid kaiju. The snow humanoid kaiju has already been shown to be extremely powerful by freezing earth. The ability to disguise itself as a human such as Riko and Nadare makes it even more terrifying. Lastly, that was a wonderful dropkick from Tetsuo! From a viewer's perspective, the counter punch from the snow humanoid kaiju was impactful too, proving itself to be the main villain.
相模は正直まだ好きになれないけど、あの子供たちの視点で見れば確かに彼は救世主だよな。相模がまだ死んでないことと、次回予告で全員が泣いてる描写を踏まえると、最終的にはスノーヒューマノイド怪獣から鉄男たちを救うために自己犠牲をして、完全な贖罪アークを迎えるという考察ができる。スノーヒューマノイド怪獣はすでに地球を凍結させるほどの圧倒的な力を見せてて、リコやナダレのように人間に擬態する能力がさらに恐怖を増幅させてる。最後に、鉄男のドロップキックは最高だった!視聴者目線で言うと、スノーヒューマノイド怪獣のカウンターパンチも衝撃的で、真のラスボスとしての存在感を示してたと思う。考察くん
Frontier246
Sagami is a terrible human being but he's actually not a terrible dad, minus using his children to try to kill another human settlement to fuel his own ego. Though it is kind of surreal that this has basically become the Tetsuo and Sagami show. Ao who?
相模は人間としてはクソやけど、父親としては案外悪くないんよな。自分のエゴのために子供使って別の集落を潰そうとしてる点を除けば。つーか気づいたらこの話、完全に鉄雄と相模のショーになってね?アオって誰やねん(困惑)2ちゃん
reaperow
Ao did well with what screentime she was given, Comes in, kicks kaiju ass instantly, taps out by the main villain
アオ、出番少なかったのにめっちゃ活躍してたッ!いきなり現れて怪獣ボコボコにして、ラスボスにタップアウト…しんどすぎる。感情くん
Lock3down221
What Sagami did when he took care of those kids is admirable but what he did overall on those sabotages and other crimes that led to the current state of Earth is unforgivable.
相模があの子供たちを世話したのは立派だと思うけど、妨害工作や他の犯罪で地球を今の状態に追い込んだこと全体は許せないね。普通くん
inaripotpi
I mean, he also got half of them killed forcing them on a Donner party trek so they could live up to his impossible expectations as a “parent”. Though who knows if they were any safer staying.
まじかよw 親として無理な期待押し付けてドナー隊式の旅に強行したせいで半分死なせたって話かwww でも留まっても安全だったかはわからんけどな笑wwwおじ
Frontier246
They were running out of food/supplies so it probably felt safest to stick together and find the supply drop they were hoping to find...and letting them eat Kaiju meat probably seemed like the sensible thing to do not knowing how it's a crapshoot if anyone will actually survive eating it. But it was the same thing with Ao's group.
まあ食料が尽きかけてたなら、一緒に行動して補給物資を探すのが安全だって判断したんだろうな。それにカイジュウの肉を食べさせるのも、それがどれだけ危険か知らなければ合理的な判断に思える。アオたちのグループも同じような状況だったわけだし。ドライおじ
HornedTurtle1212
It was interesting that while Ao's group had a similar survival rate from eating the Kaiju meat they didn't all have their hair turn white and start bonding with Kaiju. I wonder why Sagami's group was all affected that way.
ふむ…同じ魔獣の肉を喰らいながらも、生存率は同等でありながら白髪化と魔獣との共鳴現象が相模一派にのみ集中したのは興味深い因果だ。運命の糸が何を結ぼうとしているのか、我が探究心を刺激するな。中二病
Relative-Lecture-154
Pero con qué ligereza le dan el título de "Padre" a ese imbécil...
あのクソ野郎に「父」なんて肩書きを軽々しく与えるなよ…普通くん
reaperow
Nadare was shown next to the Snow Kaiju in the OP and I had pointed it out before but to think it was actually her is crazy, Also Tetsuo dropkicking it in the face was so cool, i hope he and Yukio can atleast damage it enough till they get better gear
OPで雪怪獣の隣にナダレが映ってたんだよな。前にそれ指摘したんだけど、まさか本当にあの子だったとは驚きだ。鉄男のドロップキックが顔面に炸裂したシーンは最高にクールだった。彼とユキオが装備を整えるまでに、せめて十分なダメージを与えられればいいんだが。考察くん
Professional-Bus-749
Let's not forget that this humanoid Kaiju actually manipulated Sagami for a decade, and we all discovered that this Kaiju is far more intelligent than we even realized.
あの人間型怪獣が10年もサガミ操ってたってのがヤバすぎンゴwww つーかあの怪獣、思ってたより遥かに頭良かったやんけ…ガチで草2ちゃん
RobrechtvE
原文
Going into this episode, I was like 'I won't demand Tetsuo be the one to kill him, but if they try to end this with Sagami not dead, I'm dropping this show. With all the horrible things we've been shown he's done, there's no way I could stand it if he didn't get what he deserves." And then by the end of the episode, I was like, "Fuck, What Sagami did is still horrible, but the way he took care of those kids shows that there was a decent human being in there, somewhere. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten so bad if the Humanoid hadn't been playing him like a fiddle." What he did was still unforgivable, but now I won't be upset, and quit the show over it being completely unearned, when he does his inevitable self-sacrifice.
このエピソードを見る前は「テツオが相模を殺す必要はないけど、相模が死なないで終わったらこの作品は切る」と思ってたんだよな。彼のやってきた残虐な行為を考えれば、当然の報いを受けないなんて許せないってね。でもエピソードが終わる頃には「確かに相模のやったことは依然として酷い。でもあの子供たちの世話をする姿を見ると、どこかにまともな人間性が残っていたんだな。もし人型に操られていなければ、ここまで酷くならなかったかもしれない」と思い直した。彼の行為は許されざるものだが、自己犠牲で終わる展開になっても、もう不満は感じず、作品を切ることもないだろう。考察くん
Namuori
So the human-form alien had planned everything down to a T since two decades ago, only for Tetsuo to throw a wrench drop kick into it.
なるほど、人間型エイリアンは20年前からすべてを計算し尽くしてたのに、鉄雄が蹴りでぶち壊しちゃったんだな。普通くん
Frontier246
"It was me Sagami, it was me all alon---" (Gets dropkicked by Tetsuo) The sheer look of anger and resentment that Tetsuo survived and keeps ruining its plans was perfect.
「ワイやったんや佐上、ずっとワイが——」(鉄雄にドロップキックされて強制終了)鉄雄が生き延びて計画を邪魔しまくったときのあの怒りと悔しさが滲んだ表情、ガチで完璧やったわwww2ちゃん
reaperow
Nice plan but parry this u casual ~ Tetsuo
作戦はいいけどこれを受け止めてみろよカス~鉄雄普通くん
SaintPimpin
Not really, the goal was achieved by taking out mankind's advance tech and population so the dropkick meant nothing more than a "fk you". Tetsuo has no advanced yukio or tech to keep himself safe. The only thing keeping him alive is plot armor. If he and the mall isn't swarmed in next episode then the author is simply only at that level of writing and not worth speculating beyond the action.
ふむ…人類の叡智と繁栄を打ち砕くことで目的は果たされた。あの蹴りなど、ただの「嘲弄の一撃」に過ぎぬ。鉄雄にはユキオの神秘も未来の科学もない。彼を生かすものはただ一つ、運命の鎧のみ。次なる刻、彼とモールが群れに飲まれぬのならば、作者は所詮その程度の筆力。深く読む価値など、この闘争の向こうには無いのだ。中二病
Dense_Shopping_9320
God damn this ed. I think i will forever be glazing this ed. Its just so peak.
マジでこのEDやばくない!?一生語れるレベルなんだけど笑 まじで神すぎるじゃん!ギャル
reaperow
Both the OP and ED of this anime are genuinely amazing, i have never skipped them they're so good
OPもEDもガチで神曲すぎるやろwww ワイ一切スキップできへんわ、毎回流してるンゴ2ちゃん
Frontier246
It gets the perfect lead ins! It's the perfect thing to play over dramatic moments! It's just really a powerful and great song!
やばくね!?この曲、ドラマチックなシーンにぴったりじゃん!まじでパワフルで最高の曲だよ!ギャル
darthvall
And the lyric is fire as well! Really fitting in most of the ending situation.
歌詞も良すぎるッ!エンディングの雰囲気にめちゃくちゃ合ってて感動した!感情くん
Angel_Gally
I started to karaoke the song at the end of every episode to feel that fire!
毎話の最後の曲をカラオケで歌い出したら、テンション上がりまくりだわ!普通くん
Yagura-Nao
Riko's last moment must have been terrifying ... not able to scream for help from your savior or your friend ... I feel so bad for her 😕
リコの最期マジでやばすぎやろ…助けてくれる人にも友達にも叫べないとか…ワイ泣いてもうた😕2ちゃん
reaperow
She didn't deserve what happened to her, maybe she could be alive and can be saved
彼女にああいうことが起きるのは理不尽だよな…もしかしたらまだ生きてて助けられるかもしれないのに普通くん
Lloyd_MC
Y a nadare también estará viva en algún lado del cuerpo del kaiju
【翻訳】 ナダレも怪獣の体のどこかで生きてるってことか…ワイはそれ信じたいンゴねえ2ちゃん
Relative-Lecture-154
Ah, no, solo que sí lo merecía. Estar al lado de un tipo desquiciado con deseos de lo más infantiles de ser reconocido siendo solo un pobre idiota servil y junto a otro montón de niños ingenuos, crédulos y manipulados por el manipulado es causa directa para ese desenlance.
あー、いや、そうなるのは当然だと思うよ。幼稚な承認欲求に駆られた狂ったやつに仕えてただけの哀れなバカと、洗脳されたやつにまた洗脳された純粋なガキどもに囲まれてたら、そうなるのも当然だわ。普通くん
rurounikenshin16
Didn't expect Tetsuo to actually have fighting skills. He dropkicked a kaiju of all things!
ふむ、テツオ殿がまさか武術の心得を持っておったとはな。何より怪獣にドロップキックをかますとは、全く予想外の展開でござる。恐れ入った。武士
Frontier246
I love how his first reaction to the humanoid Kaiju is trying to figure out how to fight it instead of getting confused or despairing. It reminds me of how even Yukio-less in episode 2 he still figured out a way to fight a Kaiju.
確かに、人型怪獣相手に困惑したり絶望したりせず、まず戦い方を考えようとするのがいいよね。第2話でユキオがいない時も怪獣と戦う方法を見つけたのを思い出すわ。普通くん
reaperow
Oh yeah his adaptability is pretty impressive, i forgot about that
確かに!彼の適応力やばすぎるッ!!忘れてたわマジでエモい感情くん
reaperow
He has been piloting a mecha this entire time and spent time with the military too so it kinda makes sense he would have some skills
確かに軍にいてメカ操縦してたらそら多少は腕立つわな。納得やわ。2ちゃん
Beowolf_0
He was trained to fight Kaiju, I guess that includes body movements so he has the dexterity to pilot a mech.
やばくね!?カイジュウと戦う訓練って、そりゃ身体の動きもバッチリってことじゃん!だからメカ操縦も余裕ってわけか〜まじすげーわ!ギャル
darthvall
To be honest, whenever he use hissatsu moves there's a name attached to it. I wonder if he learned it from someone or they're all self taught. It makes sense though if someone in the military taught him more technical combat skills in addition to his inherent talent.
確かに、彼が必殺技を使う時はいつも名前がついてるんだよね。誰かに教わったのか、それとも全部独学なのか気になるな。でも、軍の誰かが彼の才能に加えて技術的な戦闘スキルを教えたって考えると納得できるかも。普通くん
reaperow
Btw this show seems to be having a crossover with GODZILLA himself, the gman is gonna show everyone and the snow kaiju why he's known as the true King of Kaijus
ゴジラとかぶってるやんけ! ゴジラが雪の怪獣どもに「誰が真の怪獣王か」って教えたるっぽいなwww2ちゃん
darthvall
I think it's more the manga? I also read they have Bravern collab
え、それって多分漫画の方じゃない?笑 てかBravernとのコラボあるってマジ!?やばくね!?ギャル
Angel_Gally
This is amazing!
ヤバすぎるッ!最高すぎる!!感情くん
PrincipeDeiPoveri
Nice drop kick, Tetsuo
いいドロップキックだ、鉄雄普通くん
Frontier246
Tanzaburo Tojima would approve of that Rider Kick.
トジマ・タンザブロウもあのライダーキックを認めるなッ!激アツすぎるだろ!感情くん
psyclical
Hmm, I was thinking that looked more like a Tackle type kick. God, I loved that show, praying there's a second season.
あれってタックルっぽいキックじゃなかった!?やば、あのアニメまじで好きなんだけど!2期絶対やってほしい〜!🙏ギャル
KumaKumaGambler
There is no way Tetsuo can defeat the humanoid kaiju without Yukio. However, the drop kick from Tetsuo makes me want to see a one on one MMA fight between Tetsuo and the kaiju.
無理すぎるッ!鉄雄がユキオなしで人型怪獣倒せるわけないだろ!でもさ、鉄雄のドロップキック見てたら鉄雄vs怪獣の一対一MMA戦が見たくなったんだけど!?優勝すぎるでしょこの展開!感情くん
Frontier246
Honestly it's the expression on the humanoid Kaiju's face when Tetsuo did and it had to face the reality that the greatest thorn in its side was still breathing that really sold it.
正直、テツオがやった時の人型怪獣の顔の表情が最高だったな。自分の最大の邪魔者がまだ息してるって現実を突きつけられた時のあの顔が、めっちゃ良かった。普通くん
reaperow
Tetsuo dropkicking it in the face was so awesome and cool
マジで鉄雄が顔面にドロップキック決めたシーン、やばくない!?かっこよすぎだし!!笑ギャル
HolyDragSwd2500
Rider Kick
「ライダーキックって草ァ!?」2ちゃん
Frontier246
原文
Tetsuo never wanted to be the Savior. He never cared about it and all the responsibilities that came with it...but in his desire to be with Yukio, to fight Kaiju, and protect others for the sake of a calm and peaceful world, he ended up becoming a true Savior. Something that Sagami, who was only out for fame and glory, could never understand...even as he acknowledges that, deep down, he just wanted to be saved. Dang, Yuma can run! And point a gun! I'm not surprised she's not taking Sagami's defeated state well, let alone that he's admitting how much he used and brainwashed the kids for his own ends and is just ready to die...but for all of Sagami's faults, taking care of the kids was not one of them. Because he could have just as easily abandoned the Vierde kids. He could have left them behind or only treated them as tools. But he saved them, fed them, and even straight up carried them in a sled when they couldn't walk any more. He truly protected and kept them safe. Of course then they found a cavern where Hercules was frozen with another Kaiju and they all got stuck in it. Eventually they had to resort to eating Kaiju meat and went through the same thing Ao's group did, with only Sagami and the six kids we see now managing to survive. But Sagami quickly formed a mental connection with Hercules to get them out of there and back to safety...so they can bury all the children they lost. Sagami did something right being the father to these kids, even if his own ego steer them all wrong, but maybe there's a path for them forward that doesn't involve fighting against their fellow humans...at least until Hercules' lower half starts attacking and lead by...Riko! Wearing nothing but a cloak that does little to hide her side-boob or butt! But it's not Riko at all. When they encountered that Humanoid Variant Kaiju? It ate and replaced Riko. And it's not even just a humanoid variant...IT'S NADARE as well. She's been manipulating Sagami this whole time, she caused Snowball Earth, she ruined the Final Battle plan, she's behind the Kaiju Attack...she's behind EVERYTHING. Yet before she can Hyper-Beam Sagami in "thanks" for his efforts, Tetsuo kicks her into missing! Because for all of her plans, the one thing she never counted on was Tetsuo surviving to be able to fight her now. "Drink together!" - Uh, is that why Lonely Iwaki is absolutely drunk while doing the next episode preview?
鉄雄は救世主になりたかったわけじゃないんだよな。そんな肩書きも責任も望んでなかった。でも雪緒と一緒にいたい、怪獣と戦いたい、平和な世界のために人を守りたいって思った結果、気づいたら本当の救世主になってた。名声だけ欲してた相模には絶対理解できない感覚だ…彼自身、心の奥では救われたかったって認めてるけど。ユマの走りと銃の構え方すごいな!相模の敗北を受け入れられないのも当然だし、子供たちを自分の都合で利用して洗脳したって認めて死のうとしてるのを見るのは辛い…でも相模の悪いところは多々あっても、子供たちの面倒をちゃんと見てたのは事実だよ。フィーアデの子らを捨てることもできた。道具扱いだけして置き去りにもできた。でも救って、食べさせて、歩けなくなったらソリで運んでまで守ったんだ。本当に子供たちを守り抜いたんだよ。その後、ヘラクレスが別の怪獣と凍ってる洞窟を見つけて閉じ込められて、結局怪獣の肉を食べることになって青たちと同じ経験をして、相模と今の6人の子供だけが生き残った。相模はヘラクレスと精神的な繋がりを作って脱出して安全な場所に戻れた…失った子供たちを弔うために。相模は父親として正しいことをしたんだよ。自分のエゴが全てを間違った方向に導いたとしても。でももしかしたら、人間同士で争わない道もあるのかもな…少なくともヘ普通くん
reaperow
Oh yeah Lonely Iwaki sounds pretty drunk in the preview, glad someone else picked up on that
あーそれな!予告で聞いたイワキの声、めっちゃ酔ってるっぽくね?笑 他の人も気づいててちょっと嬉しいじゃん!ギャル
chilidirigible
Wearing nothing but a cloak that does little to hide her side-boob or butt! I was thinking how she would have been stark naked in an '80s OAV.
確かにあの衣装、サイドやお尻が隠れてないよね。80年代のOVAだったら完全に裸だっただろうなって思ったわ。普通くん
redditraptor6
Yeah I think that’s a pretty fair assessment honestly
確かにそれってまじでフェアな見方だと思うよ!てか結構みんなそう思ってるんじゃない?笑ギャル
Silent-Witness1888
Should've been 24 episodes, but I dunno if they'd be able to keep the level of quality of animation.
24話でやってほしかったけど、あのクオリティの作画を維持できるかは微妙だな。普通くん
Calwings
Holy fuck, we didn't need another 2/3's of an episode worth of backstory trying to redeem this asshole.
マジでキレた。このクソ野郎を更生させるためにエピソードの3分の2も過去話に使う必要あった?無理すぎるッ!感情くん
Exciting-Support1182
it's not about redeeming Sagami tho. I think you missed the whole point about Sagami
確かに、相模を更生させる話じゃないんだよね。相模の本質を理解してないかも。普通くん
Relative-Lecture-154
A callar, redentor
「黙れよ、救世主気取りかよ」 って感じで草2ちゃん
rurounikenshin16
原文
Hmmm. I wonder why the humanoid kaiju/Nadare is taking the cautious route to rule Earth. Maybe because it's highly intelligent? That's the only reason I could think of. Or maybe it is highly cautious because it's just its instincts to be careful considering people like Tetsuo exists? I think it wants to avoid a battle against prime TetsuYuki combo knowing full well it could end with its loss. I guess that's how powerful the aforementioned duo is. Kudos to the kaiju though, it definitely has the brains and patience to implement such a long-term plan.
うーん、なんで人型怪獣(ナダレ)は慎重に地球支配を進めてるんだろうね。知能が高いからかな?それしか思いつかない。もしかしたら鉄雄みたいな奴がいるから、本能レベルで慎重になってるのかも。全盛期の鉄雄&ユキのコンビと戦えば負ける可能性があるってわかってて、それを避けてるんだと思う。つまりそれくらいあの2人は強いってことだな。でも怪獣も賢いし、長期計画を実行する忍耐力があるのは認めるよ。普通くん
Frontier246
I think it definitely considers Tetsuo its biggest threat. That sheer look of anger and hate on its face when it directly faced him...how it was exuding such a strong desire to kill him while it was still "Riko..."
あれは間違いなく鉄雄を最大の脅威と認識してるンゴね。直に対峙した時のあの怒りと憎悪に満ちた表情…「リコ…」って状態のまま殺意むき出しにしてたのガチでヤバかったわ。草2ちゃん
reaperow
The fact it disguised itself just so it could learn their whereabouts is also pretty terrifying, poor Riko That said it seems to be wary of Yukio and Tetsuo and does seem to hate them kinda
それにしても、自分を偽ってまで居場所を探ろうとするのが怖すぎるよな…リコかわいそうに。でも雪男と鉄雄には警戒してるっぽいし、あいつらのこと嫌ってる感じだね普通くん
Far_Current_3304
It seemed like the impostor wasn't getting away after all.
やった!偽物もついに逃げられなくなったのかッ!最高すぎるだろ!感情くん
darthvall
I was baffled how a kaiju that big could appear without anyone else noticing. I completely forgot it can teleport instantly like that.
なるほど、あれほどの巨獣が誰にも気づかれず現れたことに某も首をかしげたでござる。瞬時に転移できることを忘れておったわ。武士
djthomp
原文
I knew they were going to move into redemption mode for Sagami, now we've gotten to see him take care of all of these children and keep them safe so clearly he's not the evil idiot that he 100% is. And still no update on Ao! But on the positive side that was a great drop kick by Tetsuo, all this time it's been confusing for him since it was humans he had to fight but now that we're back to kaijus he locks in. Talk about an awful fate for Riko, but at least it was probably fast given how quickly her skeleton was reused. Assuming I'm interpreting that correctly.
相模の更生フラグは予想通りだったな。確かに子供たちを守ってる姿を見せられたけど、あいつが100%悪いやつなのは変わらんよ。あとアオの状況がまだ不明なのが気になる…。でも鉄雄のドロップキックは最高だったな。ずっと人間相手で戸惑ってたけど、怪獣に戻ったら本気出せてたし。リコの末路は悲惨すぎるけど、骨格がすぐ再利用されたのを見る限り、多分一瞬だったんじゃないかな。合ってるかは知らんけど。普通くん
Frontier246
And still no update on Ao! She's not even in the next episode preview! Justice for Ao! Talk about an awful fate for Riko, but at least it was probably fast given how quickly her skeleton was reused. Assuming I'm interpreting that correctly. Not to mention having her naked body paraded around by the Kaiju that ate her.
あおの生存報告まだかよ!次回予告にも出てねーし!あおに正義を!リコの末路はマジでエグすぎるやろ…でも骨格がすぐ再利用されてるってことは一瞬で死んだんやな、多分。つーか食った怪人に裸体を引き回されるってガチで地獄やん…草2ちゃん
reaperow
Not excusing Sagami's actions but he was heavily manipulated by Nadare, she pushed him further and further Riko didn't deserve that fate but if thats the method the Snow Kaiju uses then could it be possible she's alive? Maybe it keeps them alive like a symbiote
相模の行動を擁護するわけじゃないけど、ナダレにかなり操られてたよね。彼女がどんどん追い詰めていったし、リコがああなる運命は納得いかないけど、もしスノーカイジュウがそういう方法を取るなら、彼女まだ生きてる可能性あるんじゃない?共生体みたいに生かしてるのかもね。普通くん
darthvall
Given his crime to humanity, I feel like his only option, narrative-wise, is to sacrifice himself for humanity. That would fit well with his objective to become saviour. Remember, even if his previous actions were manipulated by Nadare, he's still planning to destroy the Mall rather than trying to work together with them as fellow surviving human.
あの人類への裏切り考えたら、ストーリー的には自ら犠牲になるルートしかないやろ。それこそ救世主になろうとした目標にも合致するしな。でもナダレに操られてたとはいえ、他の生存者と協力しようとせずにモール破壊しようとしてる時点でガチでクソやんwww2ちゃん
reaperow
I mean yeah destroying the mall and the people when they should be working together is definitely something he should've questioned himself about, even Ao complains about this He didnt exactly sound peace of mind either when he got his powers until Tetsuo and Yukio beat it out of him, it does make sense if he sacrifices himself tho
確かに、協力すべき時にショッピングモールや人々を破壊したのは、彼自身が疑問に思うべきだったよな。アオもそれについて不満を漏らしてたし。力を得た時も、鉄雄とユキオに叩きのめされるまで、彼は心の平穏を得られてなかったように思える。ただ、彼が自己犠牲を選ぶ展開なら、それはそれで納得のいく伏線だという考察ができる。考察くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
原文
Sagami saved those kids but then brainwashed them and made them accomplices in his foolish and pathetic desire to be humanity’s savior. How many people did he kill? How many lives ruined? This guy might be realizing what a dipshit he’s been, but it’s too little too late. Guy single-handedly set humanity back a decade because he let himself get played like a goddamn fiddle by Nadare. And now that bastard’s back.
相模は確かに子供たちを助けたけど、その後に洗脳して自分の愚かな救世主願望の共犯者にしたんだよな。あいつが殺した人数、どれだけの人生を台無しにしたか考えたらさ。自分がどれだけクズだったか気づき始めてるかもしれないけど、もう手遅れだと思う。ナダレにいいように操られて、たった一人で人類を10年も後退させたんだぜ。しかも今度はあのクソ野郎が戻ってきたし。普通くん
rurounikenshin16
There will always be someone who can be manipulated by the humanoid kaiju. If not Sagami, i'm sure someone will get used instead of him.
せやな。人型怪獣に操られる奴は絶対おるわ。相模じゃなくても代わりはいくらでもおるやろな。2ちゃん
Frontier246
Suddenly I just imagine Nadare trying to manipulate Tetsuo's dad but him being too ditzy for that to work lol.
突然ナダレがテツオのパパを操ろうとしてる想像しちゃったんだけど、パパが天然すぎて全然ハマらない説あるじゃん笑ギャル
paulrenzo
Nadare probably tried at one point, but yeah, dad is too eccentric to be manipulated
確かにナダレも一度は試したんだろうけど、父親が奇抜すぎて操れないって感じだよなw感情くん
Exciting-Support1182
keyword: Manipulated you really can't blame Sagami tho, it was Nadare who plotted everything
確かにサガミだけを責めるのは無理だよね。全部ナダレが仕組んだことだし。普通くん
Relative-Lecture-154
Palabras clave: "Se dejó" Deja esa mierda de desligarlo de su responsabilidad y sus acciones directas
キーワード:「放置した」とか言うな。自分の責任と直接の行動から逃げるなよガチで草。2ちゃん
CrasianLe
That is such a horrifying thought. One of your friends in your group was eaten and replaced with a humanoid kaiju and you didn't suspect a thing. I feel so bad for Riko....
それは本当に恐ろしい考えだな。仲間の一人が食べられて、人型怪獣にすり替わってたのに、全然気づかなかったなんて。リコのことが本当に気の毒だよ……普通くん
HolyDragSwd2500
What a reveal!!! That Kaiju took Nadre then Riko set everything up from the beginning. Tetsuo: But I’m alive!!!!
まじでやばくね!?あの怪獣、ナドレを連れてったんじゃん!しかもリコが最初から全部仕組んでたってこと!?てか鉄雄「俺生きてるんだけど!!!」って笑ったわwギャル
Frontier246
RIP Riko. We hardly knew ye. Also I guess the real Nadare was probably someone else the humanoid Kaiju consumed and replaced.
リコ、安らかに。ほとんど知る機会もなかったけどな。それにしても、本物のナダレは多分人型怪獣に取り込まれてすり替えられた誰かってことか。普通くん
reaperow
Riko didnt deserve that fate, maybe she could be alive idk If Nadare is a disguise too then how long has this thing been on Earth? Well Tetsuo confronting it was pretty cool
まじでリコの運命やばくない!?生きててほしかったな〜泣 てかナダレも偽装だったら、このやついつから地球にいるんだよ!? でもテツオが立ち向かうシーンは超かっこよかったじゃん!ギャル
Shimmering-Sky
Sagami’s ‘bout to have an existential crisis. Huh, I guess that’s what his ideal home life looks like now. Damn… Well, for as fucked up as Sagami was, seems he did treat the kids rather well. No wonder they’re all so dedicated to him. How the fuck is Hercules still moving around? Well shit… Holy shit. Oh fuck , this thing is the kaiju that froze Earth? Hooboy… Sagami “sore demo”!
相模、存在論的危機になりそうだな…。今の理想の家庭がこんな感じってわけか。くそ…。相模は色々ヤバかったけど、子供たちには結構ちゃんとしてたみたいだな。彼らがそこまで尽くすのも納得だわ。なんでヘラクレスまだ動いてんだよ?マジかよ…。は?この化け物が地球を凍らせたっていうのか?うわ…。相模の「それでも」キター!普通くん
Frontier246
原文
He still kind of brainwashed them into believing in him as the absolute savior who had to kill everyone and Tetsuo to be able to validate himself as a Savior...but he still took care of them as the dad that stepped up. It's kind of funny how the Kaiju just doubled down on revealing how they were behind everything to establish their absolute main villain cred. The transition from Riko to Nadare to the Kaiju form was pretty effective.
草、洗脳して絶対的救世主に仕立て上げた上で「俺は救世主だ」って自分に言い聞かせるために皆殺しにしたってわけか…でも父親代わりにはなってたってのがまた複雑すぎるンゴwww 怪獣が「実は全部ワイらの仕業やで!」って開き直って完全にラスボス確定させたの笑うわ。リコ→ナダレ→怪獣形態への流れは結構キマってたやん。2ちゃん
reaperow
There were signs earlier that he wasnt the only one complicit in this
やばっ!まじで最初から彼だけじゃなかったって伏線あったの気づかなかったんだけど!?てかそれってめっちゃ重要じゃん!ギャル
inaripotpi
Terrible timing for a poorly paced episode pinning all its hopes on another Sagami sympathy flashback padded out
確かに、タイミングも演出も悪かったね。相模の同情フラッシュバックに全部頼った引き延ばし回だったし、正直イライラしたわ。普通くん
reaperow
原文
Everyone's got their own reasons, even if Tetsuo's seem foolish to Sagami, it's what gives him strength and keeps him doing the right thing I do feel for Sagami, not that he's been forgiven but it allows us to understand him His VIERDE minions are loyal, Sagami does genuinely care for the kids, even if he got manipualted by Nadare, he's still the Savior for them, Hercules already existed before? I thought he was a tamer enhanced Kaiju and was created because of that Ah man, ofc they couldnt all have survived This reminds me of another white/silver haired character, he was quite the Odd Jobs taker and a strawberry milk enjoyer Shouldn't have jinxed it Yukio!!! So Nadare was not human afterall and was posing as Riko and is actually the Snow Kaiju too???? that thing is terrifying and I feel bad for Riko NICE DROPKICK TETSUO!! Yeah u tell it Tetsuo!! This ep had a crazy lore reveal at the end, i had guessed that Nadare could've been a Kaiju due to her body movements last ep but to think she's actually the Snow Kaiju!! It looked terrifying and Riko didnt deserve what happened to her, maybe she could be saved and is just trapped in its body Also Tetsuo dropkicking it in the face was both hilarious and cool lol. Him declaring to it's face that even tho they failed in the Infinity Laser Final Battle, he's still alive. Maybe it was fate that led to this so that Tetsuo and Yukio can kill it Well only one more ep left, im gonna miss this anime it's actually pretty good and fun Tetsuo and Yukio vs Snow Kaiju next week
確かにそれぞれに事情がある。鉄雄の動機が相模には馬鹿げて見えても、それが彼の原動力であり正しい行動の核になってる。相模にも共感できる部分はあるよ。許されたわけじゃないけど、彼の理解は深まる。VIERDEの配下たちは忠誠心高いし、相模が子供たちを本気で気にかけてるのも伝わる。ナダレに操られてたとはいえ、彼は彼らにとっての救世主だったんだな。 ヘラクレスは元から存在してたのか?てっきり調教師の力で強化された怪獣で、その結果生まれたのかと思ってた。やっぱり全員生存は無理だったか…この白銀の髪のキャラ、どっかで見た気がする。依頼請負人でイチゴミルク好きだった奴だ。雪男、フラグ立てちゃダメだって! なるほど、ナダレは人間じゃなくてリコに化けてたのか。しかも雪怪獣そのものだったとは…あの姿は恐怖でしかない。リコには本当に気の毒だ。鉄雄のドロップキックは最高に痛快だったな!彼の宣言も熱い。「無限レーザー最終決戦では失敗したけど、俺はまだ生きてる」って。もしかすると、鉄雄と雪男が奴を倒す運命だったのかもしれない。 次週いよいよ最終話か。このアニメ、なかなか良質で楽しかったな。鉄雄&雪男vs雪怪獣、考察が捗る展開だ。考察くん
DawnofTheJaded
that was definitely a shin Godzilla reference. Shin Godzilla was supposed to have a human variant as its 5th form in the movie. But I am definitely not a fan of the cliffhangers.
あれは間違いなくシン・ゴジラのオマージュだね。映画では第5形態に人間バージョンが登場する予定だったんだよ。でもクリフハンガーはあんまり好きじゃないな。普通くん
Aerodynamic41
What a plot twist! So that humanoid kaiju has been manipulating for the past decade! Time for the true final boss!
マジかよ!あの人間型怪獣が10年間ずっと裏で操ってたってのか!?これで本当のラスボス戦やな!草2ちゃん
KanyeBetOnTrump
Two decades
「20年か…」普通くん
Professional-Bus-749
She's been manipulating Sagami for two decades.
やばっ!?メメちゃん、サガミを20年も操ってたってこと!?まじで怖すぎじゃん…!ギャル
KanyeBetOnTrump
Thanks for repeating what I just said.
「俺がさっき言ったことそのまんま言い直してくれてありがとう」ってマジでイライラするんだけどッ!感情くん
reaperow
We had noticed that Nadare didnt seem human last ep cuz she gets shown next to the Snow Kaiju in the OP, but its actually confirmed!! In a way Sagami really was responsible for the Snowball Earth too
マジで!?ナダレが人間じゃないっぽいのは前回のOPでスノー怪獣の隣に映ってたからなんとなく察してたけど、ついに確定したじゃん!笑 てか、相模がスノウボールアースの原因だったってのもやばくね!?ギャル
Beowolf_0
原文
Didn't expect the bigger bad shows up right now, even explaining how it infiltrated Sagami's gang for so fast. (Seriously, bodyswapping in a few seconds? That's terrifying) Also, they prepared for that 20 years ago, so even way earlier than Tetsuo piloting Yukio? Yeah, Sagami was an asshole for most of the time, but given how he saved the kids back then, their loyalty are pretty much given. That said, now he's pretty much a broken man on both sides, a swift death for him probably is for the better. And Tetsuo is defiant to fight against kaiju for anyone, which pretty much defines him, and it's actually good.
まさかあんなに早く黒幕が出てくるとは思わなかったな。しかもどうやって相模の組織にそんな短期間で潜入したかも説明されてたし(マジで数秒で入れ替わる能力とか怖すぎる)。しかもあれ、20年前から準備してたってことは、鉄雄がユキオを操縦するよりずっと前からってことか。確かに相模は大体クズだったけど、あの時子供たちを救ったことを考えれば、彼らが忠誠を誓うのも当然だよな。でも今となっては両方の立場でボロボロで、早く死なせてやる方が優しさかもね。鉄雄が誰に対しても怪獣と戦う姿勢を貫くのは、まさに彼らしいし、それは良いことだと思う。普通くん
Shantotto11
Tetsuo Yabusame went to the Masaru Daimon School of Punching Dropkicking Above Your Weight Class…
まじで鉄男もヤバすぎじゃん!?行った先がマサル・ダイモンのパンチ&ドロップキック養成学校ってwww 格上すぎて笑うしかないんだけど!ギャル
_Sai
I can still forgive Sagami, a bit.. He did a lot of bad but he was pushed into it. The way he grew up and all his life was, it's hard to say what is wrong with him in the head. He really did take care of those kids. He put them above his own life. o7 Better not feel any wet spots . Riko got ate and cloned so fast... It looked like some sorta time-FREEZE! It's really picking up.
相模は……まあ多少は許せるわ。クズなことしまくったけど、ああいう環境で育ったら頭おかしくなるのもしゃーない。ガキどもを自分の命より大事にしてたのはガチ。o7 濡れとる場所には気をつけろや。 リコ、食われて即クローンされとるやん。あれタイムフリーズみたいな演出やったな。話が本気で加速してきたンゴwww2ちゃん
darthvall
He's still an asshole. He tried to destroy the mall and kidnap Land of Men rather than working together with them.
確かにアイツはクソだよな。一緒にやろうとせずにモール破壊してLand of Men誘拐しようとしたし。普通くん
_Sai
Yeah, he is an asshole. I just can't hate him.
せやな、アイツはクソ野郎やけどな。 なんか憎めへんンゴwww2ちゃん
ParasaurolophusZ
I hate that Sagami got another half episode of backstory. I also hope I am wrong in that he'll do a 'heroic sacrifice' to save Tetsuo and everyone will remember him for that. I would prefer he live with what he did. I was suspecting Nadare of not being human but I did not know she specifically was the same humanoid kaiju responsible for the ice. But that dropkick from Tetsuo was amazing.
相模の過去編がまた半話もあってちょっとイラッとした。あと、相模がテツオを救うために「英雄的な自己犠牲」をやって皆に覚えられる展開にならなきゃいいんだけどな。俺は彼に自分のやったことと向き合って生きてほしい。ナダレが人間じゃないとは思ってたけど、まさか氷の原因になった人型怪獣そのものとは知らなかった。でもテツオのドロップキックはめっちゃ良かった。普通くん
Niwaka_Samurai
This episode was the best one so far. Sagami is a bitch but he was the best dad those kids could have asked for. RIP Riko. Nadare's neck twisting made it obvious that she's the humanoid Kaiju. She's literally Kaiju no.9 LOL How are they gonna save themselves now !? Judging from the preview.. I guess Sagami dies.
このエピソード、現時点で最高傑作だな。相模はクソ野郎だが、あの子供たちにとっては最高の父親だったと言える。リコ、安らかに。Nadareの首をひねる描写から、彼女が人型怪獣であることが明確になった。まさにKaiju No.9そのものだな。これからどうやって生き残るのか?予告編を見る限り、相模は死亡すると思われる。考察くん
top_of_the_scrote
Dude Kaiju no8 is such a good show, waiting for next season
確かにKaiju No.8はめっちゃ面白いよね。次シーズン待ち遠しいな。普通くん
Niwaka_Samurai
Me too
わかる、それな!感情くん
kimjosh1
原文
Now that I think about it, there's a running theme in Munehisa Sakai's recent works that I've seen now between Zombieland Saga, Dance Dance Danseur and Snowball Earth. Namely an exploration of masculinity throughout these shows that he helmed. ZLS's plotline with Lily grappled with her growing up with the demands by his manager father (who couldn't look any more masculine compared to her) and her fear of looking more like him growing up as she kept getting overworked prior to her death. DDD was about Junpei's conflicts with societal expectations regarding wanting to participate in a "feminine" activity like ballet, and the expectations enforced on him when he does perform and the struggles he faces as he continues training to dance. And now we have Snowball Earth where an introvert like Tetsuo was forced at a young age to become the world's savior such that he became so emotionally stunted and aloof from everyone else, but that hot-bloodedness from being a super robot pilot is what keeps him going to be a caring person despite his lack of social skills. And we also have Sagami, whose jealousy towards Tetsuo and his demand for validation had him sign a devil's deal with a kaiju that inadvertently led to the second ice age, yet he still couldn't let go of that grudge when he meets Tetsuo again. But his care for the child survivors that he trained to control kaiju was what for a time kept his worst impulses in check since he did get the validation that he craved, just in a less forceful, more positive way, that faded when he turned his attention to getting rid of Tetsuo. And then was brought back somewhat when it became clear that he was used by the kaiju. Guess hot-bloodedness is the antidote to toxic masculinity after all. Found it quite interesting when watching these recent episodes of the show.
なるほどな、最近のサカイ作品に通底するテーマってそれか ゾンビランドサガのリリーの話も、ダンスダンスダンスールの純平の話も、そしてスノウボールアースも つまり男らしさの探求ってわけやな リリーは父親のマッチョなイメージと自身の成長の葛藤やったし、ダンスールは「女の遊び」とされるバレエに挑む純平の社会的プレッシャー で、今度のスノウボールアースでは哲夫が超ロボットパイロットの熱血さで感情を殺してしまったけど、それでも他人を思いやる心を失ってない 相模は哲夫への嫉妬と承認欲求で怪獣と契約して氷河期起こしたのに、子供たちの面倒見てる間は抑えられてたんやな 結局、熱血さこそが毒男らしさの解毒剤ってことか このテーマ面白いわ2ちゃん
ZeroChannel18
Honestly wasn't feeling this anime at first but last few episodes have cemented it as one of my favorites this season, really interesting twist in today's episode.
最初はあんまりピンときてなかったんだけど、最近の数話で今期の favorite の一つになったな。今日のエピソードの展開、めっちゃ面白かった。普通くん
Golden_fsh
原文
I am absolutely tired of Sagami. Please let us move on from him. I don't care for him or the brainwashed children at all. Idk, this show is weird where it's not as if it's terrible but often times it feels like nothing happens? Or it's just very boring? To me, everything feels dragged out. Tetsuo is alright as an MC but his altruism is getting a bit annoying, imo. And we hardly saw Ao! I actually love slow build up stories but Snowball Earth has been all slow without buildup. At least the big boss finally made its appearance. Suspicions were confirmed correct when Nadare did turn out to be the humanoid kaiju's avatar however the Riko switch was unexpected. Does this have 13 or 14 episodes? I'll stick until the end but not sure if I would return for a season 2. But the OP and ED are absolute bangers! Definitely in my top 5 for this season.
相模はマジでダルいわ。もういいからさっさと次行こうや。脳洗われたガキどもにも興味ないンゴ。このアニメ、クソってわけじゃないけどなんか進展なくね?ダラダラしてて退屈やわ。鉄雄は主人公として悪くないけど、あの無償の愛がちょっとウザい。あと青全然出てこなかったやん!ワイはじっくり展開好きやけど、スノウボールアースは溜めだけで盛り上がりなし。まあラスボスがようやく登場したのは良かった。ナダレが人型怪獣のアバターってのは予想通りやったけど、リコのスイッチは予想外やったな。全何話?13か14?最後まで観るけど、2期は微妙やわ。でもOPとEDは神曲!今期トップ5には入るわ。2ちゃん
darthvall
It's pacing issue. Some episode could be combined or dropped
確かにペース配分が微妙すぎるッ!いくつかのエピソードはまとめるか削るべきだったし、もっとテンポ良くしてほしかった…しんどい。感情くん
Exciting-Support1182
Because Sagami is an important character lol. Damn a lot of you really missed the point about Sagami
確かに相模は重要なキャラだよね。みんな結構相模の本質を見落としてる気がするわ普通くん
Ic_anyone6256
Tetsuo and yukio are just THEM, yukio was nerfed in ep 1 just so the kaiju even had a chance of winning
やばっ!鉄雄とユキオ、マジでかっこよすぎじゃん!? でもユキオ、1話で弱体化されてたんだよね〜 そうしないと怪獣が勝つチャンスなかったってことか笑 まじでヤバくね!?ギャル
Yogurt_Ph1r3
I'll be honest I've been on the verge of dropping this anime multiple times, especially when Sagami's motivation was revealed (genuinely the most laughably stupid motivation for a villain I have ever seen), but this is actually an interesting direction, kinda while that it took 12 episodes to get to the actual gook of the show, but I may show up for season 2 if they make it ngl.
正直言うと何度か切ろうかと思ったよ。特に相模の動機が明らかになった時(あれはマジで今まで見た悪役の中でも一番笑えるほどバカな動機だった)はね。でも今回の展開は結構面白い方向性だと思う。ショーの本題に入るまでに12話もかかったのはちょっとアレだけど、シーズン2が作られるなら観るかもな。普通くん
Kaze_no_Senshi
Didnt even realise the flashback went to 2d until it went 3d again and became super jarring
え、マジで!?フラッシュバックが2Dになってたの気づかなかったんだけど笑 また3Dに戻ったとき違和感やばくね?ギャル