KanyeBetOnTrump
Here after finishing episode. This show deserve a lot of support this episode was so good.
1話終わったところだけど、このアニメマジで応援されるべきだわw 今回の話めっちゃ良かったわ笑wwwおじ+44
nofaxxspitintruflego
couldnt agree more, like im SO invested at ep 5 its crazy just every story beat just does something to me, and the shows not trying to be anything that its not? if that makes sense oh yeah also hideo kojima recommended this series just before ep 1 aired lol
同意。5話でここまで引き込まれるとは思わなかった。各ストーリービートが的確に心に響いてくるんだよな。この作品は変に背伸びせず、自分たちのやりたいことを貫いてるように見える。あと、小島秀夫が1話放送直前に本作を推薦してたのも納得だわ。考察くん+14
MonaganX
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I just think the tonal dissonance of the goofy cutesy comedy of the child-like protagonist trying to make friends paired with the dark and gruesome moments like "I can still hear the Kaiju chewing up my mom" makes it a bit hard for this show to find a broader audience. You're limited to people who enjoy both, or at least tolerate one of them enough, to stick with the show's not particularly seamless blending of such extremes. Individually all the parts are executed well, but it's a bit like eating a dish where all the ingredients are just taking turns on your palate.
せやな、メメちゃんの「友達作りたい!」って可愛いノリと、「ママが怪獣に食われる音まだ耳に残ってる」みたいな重い場面の温度差がキツいんやろな。両方楽しめる層か、片方ガマンできる人しかついてこれんわ。 - 個々のパートはちゃんと作られてる - でも全部が交互に来る感じで、料理で言うと具材が順番に口に入ってくるような違和感あるンゴwww2ちゃん+9
chilidirigible
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It's all postapocalyptic fun and games until you get your extra faction of fanatical lunatics who should have been on your side! Well, it wasn't really fun and games up to this point either. The Colonel apparently confirming that the space mission was sabotaged from the start again brings up various questions of just how far back ERDE was subverted and whether that end goal was there all along. The multiple telepathic kaiju also further the idea that they might be divided amongst themselves as well.
ふむ…終末の戯れも、狂信的な狂人どもの分派が現れて初めて真の混沌を迎えるというわけか。いや、元より笑い事ではなかったのだがな。 大佐が宇宙計画の妨害を認めた件、ERDEの浸食がいつから始まったのか、そしてその最終目的が最初から存在したのか、深淵なる疑問が湧き上がる。さらに複数のテレパシー怪獣の出現は、奴ら自身の内部分裂をも暗示しているようだ。中二病+25
Frontier246
Look at how happy Ao is while in handcuffs lol. The Kaiju growing more sentient is definitely interesting because is that from a natural evolution from their time on Earth or something that they were always capable of instead of just being sent en masse to destroy Earth? They're starting to look more and more like actual Earth animals compared to the base Kaiju forms.
ああ、確かに。アオが手錠かけられてるのにあんなに楽しそうなのは面白い描写だよな。そしてカイジュウの知性獲得についての考察だが、これは地球での時間経過による自然進化なのか、それとも元々持っていた能力が発現しただけなのか、興味深いテーマだ。基本形態と比べて、明らかに地球の生物に近づいてきてる点を踏まえると、単なる破壊兵器として送り込まれた存在ではない可能性が浮上する。制作陣がここで何を描こうとしているのか、今後の伏線が気になる。考察くん+12
KanyeBetOnTrump
I was not expecting dude to be bad smh got me excited for nothing.
マジかよ…まさかあの男が悪役だとは思わなかったわ。期待させといてガッカリすぎるッ!感情くん+27
Frontier246
I didn't expect him to be such a literal poseur lol.
確かに、あいつまさかのポーズだけの人だったな笑普通くん+23
LezRock
Yes, I had to facepalm at how stereotypically villainous he is.
それなw 悪役感がデカすぎて笑ったわwwwwwwおじ+8
KanyeBetOnTrump
I have a feeling he takes it to the extreme
それな!まじで極端すぎて笑っちゃうじゃん笑ギャル+7
KumaKumaGambler
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As much as I dislike the Colonel and his followers coming to attack Mishima mall, their introduction provides the plot with another dimension of danger. It is no longer Tetsuo, Yukio and their newfound family defending themselves only against kaiju. With Yukio damaged, things seem bleak for everyone at Mishima Mall. Hopefully, they successfully fend off the incoming attack with minimal casualties. And after watching this episode, I predict Hagane is going to become the mechanic in charge of maintaining and repairing Yukio. P.S. The opening and ending theme songs are really growing on me.
大佐とその追従者たちが三島モールを襲撃する展開は正直好きじゃないけど、このキャラクターの導入によって物語に新たな危険の次元が加わったのは確かだな。これまでテツオとユキオ、そして新たな家族は怪獣からの防衛だけを考えていればよかったわけだが、状況が一変した。 ユキオが損傷したことで三島モールの全員にとって状況は厳しい。できれば最小限の犠牲で攻撃を撃退してほしいところだ。このエピソードを見て個人的に予想するに、ハガネがユキオの整備・修理を担当するメカニックになるのではないかと思われる。 P.S. OPとED、だんだん耳に馴染んできたよな。考察くん+27
Frontier246
It's going to be sad for Tetsuo to see the organization he and Yukio worked together with for so long has seemingly turned into a collection of unhinged psychopaths working with Kaiju to kill other humans for their own salvation. Yukio literally just got a new body and it's already been destroyed!
確かに。テツオから見たら、自分とユキオが長年一緒にやってきた組織が、いつの間にかカイジュウと組んで人間を殺す狂人の集まりになってるのは辛いよな。 しかもユキオ、せっかく新しい体を得たばかりなのに、もう破壊されちゃったしね…。普通くん+19
mekerpan
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This series was hovering in very-possible-drop territory for me. This episode bought it a reprieve. Still not a definite keeper, but a bit closer. Interesting that surviving remnants of ERDE are now bad guys. Seemingly VERY bad guys -- who have no interest in saving survivors -- but rather want to steal what survivors have and kill them. I wonder if Hagane can actually start making upgrades for Yukio, rather thna just keeping him running in tip-top shape?
まあ、今回のエピソードでちょっと持ち直した感じだな。まだ確定で見続けるってほどじゃないけど、悪くはない。 ERDEの残党が敵側に回るのは興味深い。生存者を助ける気はなくて、奪って殺すだけの連中ってのは、なかなか極端だな。 ハガネがユキオのメンテだけじゃなくて、ちゃんとアップグレードもできるようになるといいんだが。ドライおじ+10
nofaxxspitintruflego
i suspect they're now a zealous evolution obsessed cult trying to do some merging of the species or something batshit stuff like that
確かに、今の展開見ると進化に取り憑かれたカルト集団で、種の融合とかヤバいこと企んでそうだよね。まだ様子見だけど。普通くん+9
nofaxxspitintruflego
the OP IS SUCH A BANGER tho im pondering wondering why does the song sound like ive heard it some odd 20years ago in another anime with different vocals.... i neeeeeeed to know
確かに。あのOPはまさに魂を震わせる魔曲だ。 だが、我が耳は20年前の異世界の記憶を呼び覚ます…別のアニメで聞いた旋律の断片を。声だけが違うのだ。この謎を解き明かさねばならぬ!中二病+8
Golden_fsh
I was feeling the same but I think I was just thinking of MHA's final season ED, "I" by Bump of Chicken. The beginning guitar riff could also be reminding you of this OP from Oblivion Battery. This will be plaguing me all season because I *know* I've heard this tune before in an older anime 😭 I wanna say it was probably a sports anime 😆
同意。俺も同じこと考えてた。 でも多分、単に僕の頭の中でMHA最終シーズンのED「I」(Bump of Chicken)が流れてただけかも。 あと、冒頭のギターリフは「忘却バッテリー」のOP思い出させるかもね。 この曲、絶対昔のアニメで聴いたことあるんだよな…ずっと気になるわ😭 たぶんスポ根アニメだった気がする😆普通くん+5
Shimmering-Sky
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- Multiple people with white hair here. I wonder if they too bonded with a kaiju like Ao did? - RIP. - Family, get! - …of course his first time seeing Hagane is opening a curtain on her changing. - Okay that’s kinda funny though. - There’s another one for his checklist, nice. - They’re using a lizard kaiju as transport, so I feel like I’m right about the white hair thing. - That… sounds like he *wanted* Tetsuo to have died out in space? - Good point, no idea how Tetsuo’s stomach would react to that. - Nice. - Ah shit, is *that* what he meant by Hagane losing her mother recently? - So they were working on new weapons and stuff, huh. - Hahahaha - Oh I’m sure you are. - Yeah, that makes sense for her revenge. - Another awkward position haha. - Oh shit…
【考察くん】 - 白髪のキャラが複数いるね。彼らもアオのように怪獣と絆を結んだのか…という考察ができる - 家族ゲット!…ここでいう家族とは、血縁ではなく精神的な繋がりを指す伏線だと思われる - ハガネの着替えを初めて見るシーンでカーテンを開ける…制作陣の意図として、ギャグとシリアスの緩急をつけている - トカゲ怪獣を移動手段に使う点を踏まえると、白髪キャラの共通点に関する考察は正しい可能性が高い - ハガネが最近母親を亡くした…というセリフは、彼女の復讐の動機を説明する伏線だと理解できる - 新しい武器の開発を進めていた…という背景は、物語の展開に重要な要素だ - 確かに、その解釈ならハガネの復讐に納得がいく考察くん+19
Frontier246
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Once again doubling down on how Tetsuo/Yukio feel like they came from a different anime that they're stuck in-between a battle between white-haired Kaiju tamers as the only Mecha. (That is a very tight shirt, Ao...) Honestly I thought they might be setting up TetsuoxAo but then they have Tetsuo getting into romcom situations with Hagane. Then again they could just become genuine adoptive siblings, but I feel like it could go either way. Have we just met the man who sabotaged the ship in episode 1? He definitely doesn't seem displeased that the plan went to bust if it meant Tetsuo died. I hope Yukio blowing up isn't going to become a running gag because let the poor robot stay intact for more than a 1-2 episodes!
確かに白髪キャラ多いな。彼らもアオみたいに怪獣と絆を結んだのかな? ・RIP ・家族ゲットだな 鉄雄とユキオは、白髪の怪獣使い達の戦いに巻き込まれたロボット枠で、別のアニメから来たみたいな違和感あるんだよな。 (アオ、シャツきつすぎじゃね…) 鉄雄×アオのフラグかと思いきや、鉄雄がハガネとラブコメ展開になってるし。義兄妹ルートもあり得るから、どっちに転んでも面白そう。 第1話で船を妨害した男、ついに登場か?計画が失敗して鉄雄が死ぬなら、あいつ全然嫌がってなさそうだな。 ユキオの爆発がお約束にならないでほしい。せめて1〜2話は無事でいてくれよ!普通くん+12
HolyDragSwd2500
Hangane got her revenge on the kaiju that ate her mother😭 Tetsuo Good Job There are others who can control/use Kaiju besides Ao😱
ハンガネ殿、母を喰らった怪獣に遂に仇を討ったでござるな…涙が止まらぬ。鉄雄、見事な働きであった。 青以外にも怪獣を操る者たちがおったとは…驚きでござる。武士+18
Frontier246
What a perfect revenge. The Kaiju ate her mom, she took away his ability to eat and he'll either starve to death or have to suffer through any meal he attempts to eat. Tetsu/Yukio are a pilot/Mecha thrown in the middle of a battle between Kaiju Tamers.
草、完璧すぎる復讐やんwww カイジュウに母親食われて、そいつから「食う力」奪って、餓死させるか飯食うたびに苦しめるってマジでエグいけど好き テツオとユキオのパイロット/メカコンビはカイジュウ調教師同士の戦いに巻き込まれただけの可哀想な奴らやな2ちゃん+13
nofaxxspitintruflego
seems the white hair happens to all those who evolve like that
白髪になるのは、そういう進化を遂げた人みんなに起こることみたいだね普通くん+7
a1oner_bvcksn6
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Hagane's got guts and with a nothing to lose attitude, fvck that Artemis gopher kaiju. I kinda wish Yukio had killed it, but it was beyond satisfying how Hagane just about made sure to rob it of its favorite activity--introducing it to a life of constant suffering. Eat shit a$shole! I've never been more pissed seeing more humans in a dystopian, icy world already teeming with monsters. That one eyed prick voiced by Tomokazu Sugita can go to hell with his malicious and cruel intentions. IDGAF whatever his backstory is--he just rubs me the wrong way like any irredeemable bastard would. And I don't say that lightly as I typically identify or relate more with villains.
**考察くんの翻訳:** ハガネの度胸と「失うものなんてない」って姿勢、あのアルテミス・ゴーファー怪獣に対してマジで最高だったな。ユキオがトドメを刺してくれてたらなって気もするけど、ハガネがあの化け物から「大好きな活動」を奪い、絶え間ない苦痛の人生を叩き込んだ展開には超越的なカタルシスがあった。くたばれクソ野郎。 氷漬けのディストピアで怪物がうじゃうじゃいる世界に、さらに人間が出てきた瞬間のイライラは過去最高だ。杉田智和が声当ててるあの隻眼のクソ野郎、悪意と残酷な意図で地獄に落ちろ。背景事情が何だろうと知ったこっちゃない——救いようのない外道って感じで、どうしても生理的に受け付けない。普段は悪役に共感する方の俺が言うんだから間違いない。考察くん+17
Frontier246
Honestly makes me wonder if she'd almost basically written off her life if it meant she could've avenged her mom and seen her again in the afterlife. But Tetsuo is there to ensure she still keeps living.
確かに、もし母親の仇を討って死後の世界で再会できるなら、自分の命を投げ出す覚悟だったのかもな。でも鉄雄がいてくれて、彼女がまだ生き続ける理由になってるんだろうね。普通くん+12
nofaxxspitintruflego
from her shock to being alive cuz tetsuo i'd wager that prolly was the case aaand from here on out, the first love prospect of the series acquired TETSUO!
それな!てか生きてることにビビってた感じじゃん?多分そういうことだよね〜 で、ここからシリーズ初の恋愛対象ゲットしたのがテツオってやばくね!?笑ギャル+6
curio_g
Why didn’t he just kill the kaiju?
確かに!でもあの怪獣を殺さなかった理由が気になりすぎるッ!感情くん+11
Frontier246
It would have freed it from the suffering of being unable to eat, and wasted Hagane’s efforts.
確かに、それで食べられない苦しみから解放されるし、ハガネの努力も無駄にならないってことだね。普通くん+10
Ashteron
I have a premonition the blatantly villainous antagonists will cause the classic *I won't kill the blatantly villainous antagonists* situation.
まあ典型的な悪役を倒さない展開になるんじゃないかって予感がするな。よくあるパターンだ。ドライおじ+7
djthomp
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Going into the episode I was wondering if there would be any chance the mom was just lost and not actually dead, but oh no she's *extremely* dead. Bad news for everyone in the present day too since these oncoming nutjobs aren't just some future threat but are attacking this very moment. Poor Hagane having to watch her mom die like that, but at least she got her somewhat insane revenge. Tetsuo the true hero, even when he has a lucky pervert moment he immediately blanks out the memory. Good thing he didn't go unconscious one final time after that accidental pin at the end, though. And I like that in spite of the setup it wasn't really another lucky moment like earlier but the point where Hagane finally lets her emotions out.
このエピソードを観る前は、母親は実は死んでなくて行方不明なだけなんじゃないかと期待してたんだが…いや、完全に死んでたな。しかも現在進行形で襲撃してきてる狂人たちが未来の脅威だけじゃなくて現実にもいるってのが、今の時代にとっては悪い知らせだ。 ハガネがああいう形で母親の死を目の当たりにしなきゃいけなかったのは気の毒だが、少なくとも彼女はある意味狂気じみた復讐を果たせた。 真正の英雄は鉄雄だよな。ラッキースケベな瞬間があってもすぐ記憶を消し去るんだから。最後のあの事故みたいなピン留めで気絶しなかったのは良かった。あと、あの展開が序盤のラッキー展開とは違って、ハガネがようやく感情を爆発させる場面になってるのが脚本として上手いと思う。考察くん+6
Calwings
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Even on Snowball Earth, FOE! This new antagonist(?) faction is certainly interesting. They want to save the planet from the giant kaiju that froze everything, but they're willing to tame their own kaiju to use them to their advantage and even to steal resources from other humans. Seems like we'll find out next week what drove the evil eyepatch dude to this and what'll happen to Yukio with the damage he suffered. New girl is cute, and her revenge plan against the kaiju who ate her mother was interesting. I still like Ao better though. Was the scene of Tetsuo accidentally seeing her naked *really* necessary though? This isn't really that kind of show, so it felt a bit out of place. Oh well.
スノウボールアースでもFOE!草 新たな敵対勢力(?)面白くなってきたな ・巨大怪獣で地球救おうとしてるけど、自分らも怪獣飼いならして他から資源奪うってクソワロタw ・来週、片目野郎の過去と雪男のダメージどうなるか気になるわ 新キャラの娘かわええな。母親食った怪獣への復讐計画も熱い でもワイはやっぱアオ派やわ 鉄夫が偶然彼女の裸見るシーン、マジで必要だったんか?こういう作品じゃねえから違和感あったわ。まあいっか2ちゃん+6