+820
professorMaDLib
You know when Season 1 was airing I thought this show was wild and batshit insane, now that I'm deep in season 2 I look back on season 1 and am like "wow things were so chill and simple back then".
わかる!シーズン1放送中は「このアニメ狂ってるし頭おかしい」って思ってたのに、シーズン2に突入した今振り返ると「あの頃はめっちゃ平和で単純だったな…」ってなる。しんどすぎるッ!感情くん+246
KazuharaIlfan
Crazy how in one episode, you got a time travel shenanigans, devil karaoke, cooking pizza, and underlings fight hype.
一話でタイムトラベル、悪魔のカラオケ、ピザ作り、手下の熱いバトルが全部詰まってるのやばくない?普通くん+121
professorMaDLib
Pretty tame by Dorohedoro standards tbh
せやな、ドロヘドロ基準やとむしろ大人しい方やろなwww2ちゃん+48
Laugarhraun
Don't you dare downplay the En pizza!
まあ確かに、ドロヘドロ基準なら大人しい方だな。でもエン様のピザを軽く見るのはやめとけよ。ドライおじ+25
YourLostGingerSoul
The broom chase was pretty epic too.
箒のチェイスシーンもガチでかっこよかったンゴwww2ちゃん+5
JJVM99
The story needs to go this way but it really makes you miss the goofy comedic moments in season 1 and Caiman’s hilarious moments. The series making you miss the past but still remaining just as good speaks of the quality of Dorohedoro.
確かに。話の展開上仕方ないけど、シーズン1のギャグシーンやカイマンの笑える場面が恋しくなるよね。過去を懐かしませつつも面白さをキープしてるのは、ドロヘドロのクオリティの高さを物語ってると思う。普通くん+73
professorMaDLib
It kinda does the same thing as Golden Kamuy where it ramps up the insanity and chaos but where Golden Kamuy starts off simple but scales up its insanity by the end of the first season, Dorohedoro gives no fucks and starts at an 9 before escalating so much that the scale has to be reevaluated.
まあ確かに。ゴールデンカムイと同じで狂気と混沌が加速していくタイプだけど、あっちは第一話からシンプルに始まって徐々にエスカレートするのに対し、ドロヘドロは最初から9割方ぶっ飛んでて、さらにスケールを再定義しないと追いつかない感じだな。ドライおじ+54
Hoboforeternity
Dorohedoro episode 3 be like: oh yeah, each year the corpses in this city rises az zombies because there are too many magic pollution in the air. It's now a festival where we hand out doorprizes to the people who kill most zombies.
せやなw ドロヘドロ3話、まさに「空気中の魔法汚染で死体がゾンビ化して毎年増えてるンゴ! 今じゃゾンビ倒した数で景品配る祭りやで!」ってノリやんw ゴールデンカムイと同系統のカオスだけど、あっちは序盤から狂ってる感じちゃう?2ちゃん+14
KomoliRihyoh
So Kawajiri says he first met Nikaido after he was already taking the Devil Exam, but we see him interacting with her while he's still young *after* she accidentally erased Yakumo. Meaning she used her magic *again* after that incident and either accidentally or intentionally erased her childhood with him.
なるほど…カワジリが語る「悪魔試験を受けてから二階堂と出会った」という記憶。しかし我が目は捉えていた、彼女が誤ってヤクモを消した*その後*、幼き頃のカワジリと戯れる二階堂の姿を。すなわち彼女は、その事件の後に再び魔術を行使し、意図的か偶然か、彼との幼き日々を自らの手で消し去ったのだ…。運命の歯車が、闇に葬られた真実が、今ここに浮かび上がる。中二病+225
MokonaModokiES
yeah its almost certain Nikaido tried to save Yakumo but failed and the situation kept getting worse until she gave up.
確かに!川尻が悪魔試験受けてた後に二階堂と出会ったって言ってたけど、二階堂はヤクモを助けようとしたんだろうね。でも失敗して状況が悪化して、諦めちゃった感じかな~。まじ切ないわ!ギャル+173
Hot-Log6283
Yeah I got the impression that she did it enough to learnt her lesson of to "never ever" again.
せやな、ワイも二階堂はヤクモ助けようとしたんやろな。でも失敗続きで結局「二度とやらねえ」って学んだって感じやわ。草2ちゃん+33
professorMaDLib
原文
Dorohedoro is a dark fantasy anime
Dorohedoro is a mystery thriller
Dorohedoro is a comedic slice of life anime
Dorohedoro is a cooking anime
Dorohedoro is an educational anime bc you always learn three things every episode
Dorohedoro is an isekai bc Al Coleman becomes a Sorcerer and gets transported to another world
I think Dorohedoro is a classic "Mud and Sludge" anime. The progenitor of this genre being Dorohedoro
ドロヘドロはダークファンタジーで、ミステリースリラーで、コメディ日常アニメで、料理アニメでもあるんだよね。毎回3つは学べるから教育アニメでもあるし、アル・コールマンが魔法使いになって異世界に飛ばされるから異世界転生ものでもある。個人的には「泥とヘドロ」アニメの古典だと思う。このジャンルの元祖がドロヘドロって感じ。普通くん+226
za_shiki-warashi
Season 1 had that episode where they played baseball, so it's also a sports anime.
確かに!野球回あったし、スポ根アニメ説もあり!笑感情くん+119
professorMaDLib
Yeah if we're going to list all the genre tags of this or golden kamuy we'll be here a while
確かに、このアニメやゴールデンカムイのジャンルタグを全部挙げてたらキリがないよね。普通くん+50
henninja
If anyone know other anime/manga as genre defying as these, I‘d love to know but AFAIK these two take the cake.
確かにそれな!この2つはジャンル無視しすぎてて他に似たの知らないよね笑
もし他にあったら教えてほしいけど、マジでこの2つが最強じゃん!ギャル+18
a1oner_bvcksn6
>Dorohedoro is a cooking anime
Delicious **En** Dungeon was all I could think of during that pizza making scene lol
「ドロヘドロは料理アニメ」ってのには笑ったわ。あのピザ作るシーン、まさに『デリシャス・イン・ダンジョン』思い出したわww普通くん+80
FarCritical
Dorohemeshi, ooohhhhhhh Dorohemeshi...
「ドロヘ飯」!あああああ「ドロヘ飯」だよなッ!!!確かにあのピザ作るシーン、完全に『ダンジョン飯』思い出したわ笑 エモすぎる優勝感情くん+37
Tabby_Tem
First we had the cooking sequence in the most recent WHA episode and then the pizza scene in today's episode of Dorohedoro... man I'm so excited for season 2 of Dungeon Meshi.
確かに、WHAの料理シーンに続いて今日のドロヘドロでピザ作りか…ダンジョン飯のSeason2がますます楽しみになったわ。普通くん+14
Equivalent-Weather59
Dorohedoro is a racing anime
確かに!ドロヘドロはレースアニメでもあるしなッ!全部当てはまるのがこの作品のヤバさよ…!感情くん+48
Doomroar
Dorohedoro is a romcom anime
Dorohedoro is an idol anime
Dorohedoro is a magical girls anime
Dorohedoroは恋愛アニメやで
Dorohedoroはアイドルアニメや
Dorohedoroは魔法少女アニメやで
草生えるわwww2ちゃん+32
quietvictories
> Dorohedoro is a romcom anime
with 'won't they, will they ffs?' trope executed at several directions
「やるのかやらないのかマジでどっちだよ!」って展開が色んな方向で炸裂してるからな普通くん+23
c0rnersh0p
>Dorohedoro is a romcom anime
When will Chota be noticed by senpai?
草
ちょっとした恋愛アニメってか?
チョータが先輩に気づかれる日は来るんか?2ちゃん+13
Zaseiskewl
Dorehedoro is steins gate
ドロヘドロはシュタインズ・ゲートだよね普通くん+7
Marbx
Poor NIkaido, man. She probably was distraught after losing Yakumo and attempted to time travel again without mastering it yet, causing her to maybe not meet Kawajiri and her family. Love the subtle exposition there.
Amazing episode again, feels like it’s going to another gear
二階堂、本当に気の毒だよな。カイマンを失って動揺したのは間違いなくて、まだ完全に習得していない時間跳躍をまた試みた結果、ケバジリや家族と出会えなくなった可能性がある。あの控えめな情報開示の仕方、見事だと思う。
今回も素晴らしいエピソードだった。物語がさらに一段階ギアを上げたように感じられる。考察くん+157
Devoidoxatom
Damnn made me realize. So the aunt and uncle do not know her too in this timeline, thats fked
まじでそれな!このタイムラインだとおばさんたちもニカイドのこと知らないんだよね、やばくね?ギャル+36
Hot-Log6283
It might be even worse than that, one of the flashes that we see during her dream sequence show the house they lived in and then the next flash the house was gone and there was just the tree.
それな。もしかするとそれ以上にヤバいかも。夢の中で見たフラッシュ、最初に住んでた家が映って、次の瞬間には家が消えて木だけになってたんだよな。普通くん+34
The_nickums
I believe they settled in that spot specifically because they found Yakumo there.
In the second timeline, they found Nikaido instead, but assuming Nikaido went back again they probably never met anyone there & then never decided to settle down.
せやな、あの場所に定住したのは八雲がいたからってことか。
二回目のタイムラインでは二階堂を見つけたけど、もし二階堂がまた戻ったら誰にも会わずに定住しなかったってワケやな。2ちゃん+16
abandoned_idol
Hmmm...
Maybe her magic allows her interference to not be remembered by others??
Magic rules can be very flexible since it's magic!
ふむ…彼女の魔法、他者の記憶から干渉を消し去る力なのでは?
魔法の理など、柔軟に変化するもの。それこそが魔法の本質よな。武士+8
laughtale0
We finally got to see the room with telephone that always shows up in Caiman's nightmare from season 1.
ついにシーズン1でカイマンの悪夢に出てた電話のある部屋が見れたね。普通くん+119
DorolXc
Good catch! Did not realize that!
草、マジで気づかんかったわ!それな!2ちゃん+40
za_shiki-warashi
I'm not usually into shipping, BUT... Shin and Noi are super cute together.
いや普段はあんま推しカプとか気にしないんだけどさ…でもシン×ノイはマジでかわいすぎじゃね!?!?ギャル+115
Weak_Season_Of_Anime
Same. I dig Kasukabe and Haru too with their mad scientist power couple vibe.
確かに。春日部とハルの狂った科学者カップル感も好きだな。普通くん+58
PeasantTS
I mean, they're married. Not much to ship there.
確かに結婚してるしね笑 でも春日部とハルのマッドサイエンティストカップル感はマジでやばいと思う!ギャル+66
InvincibleWallaby
There's also the ebisu x brain damage ship
確かに、恵比寿×脳損傷カプも面白いよね。普通くん+51
Quadriporticus
Man Ebisu's story is just sad . But it's also fine just having her around for the vibes and just be useless most of the time. At least she gets to maniacally laugh non-stop and be carefree.
それな。エビスの話はただただ悲しすぎるッ……でも、周りにいて「ふへへ」って無駄に存在してるだけで雰囲気になるのは分かる。少なくとも狂ったように笑い続けて無頓着でいられるなら、それでいいのかも。感情くん+23
InvincibleWallaby
It's definitely not carefree, this is probably the worst thing that's happened to her so far. The only emotion she can convey now is laughing non stop even if she's hurt, sad, or feels anything else even though she's fully conscious of it all
確かに恵美寿の現状は決して気楽なものじゃない。今の彼女にとってこれまでで最悪の出来事だろう。自覚はあるのに、傷つき悲しみどんな感情すらも笑いでしか表現できない。これは単なるギャグ描写ではなく、彼女の精神が完全に麻痺している状態を表していると考えられる。考察くん+35
a1oner_bvcksn6
I'm not into boats either but Caiman and Nikaido clears that ship imo. But yeah, Shin and Noi are a pretty close second as far as this series is concerned.
確かに、俺も船とかは興味ないけどカイマンと二階堂の方が好きかな。でもシンとノイもかなりいいコンビだと思うよ。普通くん+35
Nollaus
Shin and Noi's relationship used to be my favorite in the show but gotta agree, season 2 has fully sold me on Caiman and Nikaido stealing the top spot.
確かに、シンとノイの絆も見事でござるが、Season2のカイマンとニカイドウの関係には某も心を打たれた。まさに頂点を譲るに相応しい出来栄えであるな。武士+31
Simple_Buy_8584
IKRRR
わかる!普段はあんまりカップリングとか気にしないタイプだけど、シノイは別格だよね。普通くん+11
Granito_Rey
Man Nikaido's face as Asu spouts his version of time-fucked exposition is heartbreaking
ニカイドウの顔がガチで辛そうやんwww アスの時間ぐちゃぐちゃ説明に「は?」ってなってるのが草2ちゃん+112
Hellknightx
I like how Asu just kind of intuitively figures out what happened in Nikaido's past without her explaining anything.
確かに、二階堂が何も説明してないのにアスが直感的に過去を理解してるの、いいよね。普通くん+53
Devoidoxatom
Yeah, everything probably clicks why a random kid is calling him onee san and helped him out
確かにw 謎のガキが突然お姉さん呼びして助けてくれた理由が全部つながった感じだよな笑wwwおじ+20
laughtale0
Cinema.
This anime is so underwatch, it needs to be more popular. I saw Gigguk's Spring anime review today, and he didn't even mentioned Dorohedoro. When the big anime youtuber whose job is to watch and review anime don't even mentioned Dorohedoro, you know it is underwatch.
マジで映画並みのクオリティだよね。
このアニメは過小評価されすぎ。もっと人気出るべきだわ。
今日Giggukの春アニメレビュー見たけど、ドロヘドロに触れてすらなかった。
アニメ見てレビューするのが仕事のYouTuberですら触れないって、どんだけ見られてないか分かるよな。普通くん+91
professorMaDLib
原文
I've long accepted that Dorohedoro is a series that's likely going to stay a cult classic. It's pretty firmly outside of most genres people are used to, and it's unapologetic and upfront about what it is. But that's why it has such a loyal fanbase, there's not a lot like it.
The fact that we even got an adaptation of it was nothing short of a miracle, let alone a director as passionate about the series as he is.
確かに、ドロヘドロはどうしてもカルト的人気に留まる作品だと俺も思う。一般的なジャンルの枠組みから大きく外れていて、自分のスタイルを一切妥協しない姿勢が強いからな。でも、それこそが熱心なファンが離れない理由だと思う。類似作品がほとんど存在しない唯一無二の世界観だからこそ、ファンは深く没入できるんだよ。
あと、この作品がアニメ化されたこと自体が奇跡に近いよな。しかも、これほど原作への愛情が感じられる監督が担当してくれたのは、本当に恵まれていたとしか言いようがない。制作陣のこだわりが各所に滲み出ているからこそ、原作ファンも納得のクオリティに仕上がっているんだろうな。考察くん+71
TwinbladeMusic
Yeah, he said he was planning to watch it on a stream. Probably he just hasn’t yet
それな、配信で見るって言ってたけどまだ見てないだけだと思うよ普通くん+11
BosuW
原文
Tbf I have stopped considering Gigguk's Seasonal anime videos seriously for recommendations. Even if he does spotlight your favorite new obscure anime he's likely to fumble the pitch in favor of a joke. I don't really blame him because keeping up with seasonal anime is an insane task. But it is what it is.
Mother's Basement is a lot better for seasonal catalogue reviews. He has his fumbles too (like only describing _Watatabe_ with the low hanging Yuri vore fruit), but I generally prefer him. Plus when there's a lot of sequels like this season he actually dedicated a whole separate video to them.
ふむ…Giggukの季節のアニメ動画など、もはや我が目で見定めるべき情報源に過ぎぬ。奴が秘めたる傑作を紹介しても、その語り口は笑いの罠に堕ちてしまい、真の輝きを伝えきれぬのだ。責める気はない…季節アニメを追い続けるのは、凡人の業では不可能な領域。だが、それも運命の定め。
Mother's Basementの方が、我が心に響く。奴も時に誤ちは犯すが(『私の百合はお仕事です!』を安易な百合のジョークで片付けるなどな)、しかし全体的には信頼に足る。今季のように続編が多い時は、別枠で特集を組むなど、その執念は賞賛に値する。中二病+28
Desperate_Method4020
That's strange, I havent seen it yet...
But I'm pretty sure I remember him saying that he loved S1.
あれ?まだ見てないんだけど…w
でも確かS1はめっちゃ好きって言ってた記憶あるぞ笑wwwおじ+16
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
Another episode that went by in a jiff. Can't believe there's only 3 more to go
I like how the aftermath of En's demise was nightmare fuel for everyone, but it also fast tracks everything into their rightful places.
The power dynamic now reverses in the favor of the Cross-eyes with the return of their boss while Shin and Noi obviously just lost theirs. I simply can't imagine this clash or fight for En's head will go well for the latter, especially if the boss gets involved.
あっという間の1話だったな。残り3話しかないなんて信じられない。
エンの死の後始末が全員にとって悪夢のような展開になりつつも、それが結果的に物事を正しい位置に収束させる流れになっているのが興味深い。
権力バランスが逆転し、クロスアイズ側はボスが復活したことで有利に。一方でシンとノイは明らかにボスを失った。このエンの首を巡る衝突は、後者にとって良い結果にはならないと予想される。特にボスが介入した場合、なおさらだ。考察くん+93
Aggravating-Wolf-823
This fight will get third partied i think. Risu's curse still wants to kill Aikawa/Boss. Nikaido with her time travel. Chota. Kasubake and his devil wife (what's his motivation again? i forgot)
確かに。エンの死の余波の描き方がいいよね。でもこの戦い、第三勢力が乱入してきそうだと思う。リスの呪いがまだアイカワ/ボスを殺そうとしてるし、二階堂のタイムトラベルや蝶太、カスバケとその悪魔の妻(動機忘れたけど)もいるしな。普通くん+38
Nollaus
Aw shit you're right, I for one completely forgot about Curse locking in on Boss's presence last episode.
せやな、ワイも完全に忘れてたわ。前回のエピソードで呪いがボスの存在にロックオンしてたの、ガチで草2ちゃん+26
Hellknightx
Kasukabe is looking for Ai Coleman, his former assistant and possible Cross-Eyes Boss.
確かに、春日部は元助手で目がクロスアイズのボスかもしれないアイ・コールマンを探してるって話だね。普通くん+22
NoHead1715
I want to know what the devil wife Haru wants to do. Her place was trashed by the Cross Eyes earlier.
同意。ハルの目的が知りたいッ!彼女の拠点を十字の目にめちゃくちゃにされたんだよな。次どう動くのか気になりすぎる。感情くん+10
Devoidoxatom
Feels like she's just bored and devils don't care much about the human world. So she'd just help out Kasukabe
あー確かに!ハルはただ暇つぶししてるだけっぽくない?悪魔だし人間界とかあんま気にしてなさそうじゃん!てかカスカベを助けるってのもノリでやってそう笑ギャル+14
Hot-Log6283
Trying to find inspiration for her next album probably.
草、確かにハルはアーティストやしな。次のアルバムのインスピレーション探しってとこやろな。クロス・アイズに部屋めちゃくちゃにされてから、なんか創作意欲湧いてきたんちゃう?2ちゃん+10
Parodizer1
Without the boss though i think only maybe Dokuga could keep up with shin and Noi. Granted, we haven’t really seen what the others can do yet
確かに。ボスがいなければ、多分ドクガくらいしかシンとノイに追いつけないんじゃないかな。もちろん、他の連中の実力はまだよくわかってないけどね。普通くん+28
Monarki
Judging by how scared and somewhat mentally weak they've constantly been show I doubt the others can do much. Especially against Shin and Noi. Dokuga can't either. Caiman struggled against just Shin. I don't think Dokuga is a better fighter than Caiman (tho his poisonous spit is an ace in the hole).
確かに、ボス抜きだとドクガだけがシンとノイに渡り合えるかもしれないという意見はわかるが、作中で彼らが常に恐怖と精神的な弱さを見せてきたことを考慮すると、他のメンバーはほとんど戦力にならないと思われる。特にシンとノイ相手ではな。ドクガも同様だ。カイマンがシン一人に苦戦したことを踏まえると、ドクガがカイマンより格上とは考えにくい(毒の唾は切り札だが)。つまり、ボスの存在がチームの実質的な戦力差を補っているという考察ができる。考察くん+13
Similar-Screen-7368
原文
I think this might just be an intentional switch. That they are extremely capable - we've seen them being very, very good with knives - but that they suck at living a regular life, so they're always in debt and barely scraping by.
Consider the parallel to Caiman and Nikaido in the Hole. They were going around killing sorcerers left and right, even put up a very decent fight against Shin and Noi, yet they also lived somewhat impoverished lives - although that last part has a lot to do with how shitty life in the Hole tends to be.
Now, is that enough for the Cross-Eyes guys to beat Shin and Noi? Probably not, especially with the latter two now being aware of the sorcerer's weakpoints and the Cross-Eyes not knowing that Shin and Noi are aware.
確かに、それはわざとそういう設定にしてる可能性あるかもね。彼らはナイフ捌きはめちゃくちゃ上手いのに、普通の生活が壊滅的にできなくて借金まみれでギリギリ生きてる感じだし。
カイマンと二階堂のホールでの生活を考えてみると、彼らも魔術師をバッタバッタと倒してて、シンとノイにだって結構いい勝負してたけど、同時に貧乏暮らししてたわけで。まあ後者はホールのクソみたいな生活環境のせいも大きいけどね。
で、これで十字目の連中がシンとノイに勝てるかって話だけど、多分無理だろうな。特にシンとノイが魔術師の弱点を知ってるのに、十字目側はそのことを知らないってのが大きい。普通くん+11
Devoidoxatom
The fat guy (the one they were gonna sell off to the landlady lol) was actually smirking when he saw Shin and Noi. Thought that was cool
返信先の「特に」って意見、めっちゃわかる!でもあのデブ(大家に売られそうになってたやつw)がシンとノイ見てニヤッとしてたの、めっちゃかっこよかったよな!感情くん+8
AvatarTuner
原文
> Can't believe there's only 3 more to go
I'm so invested right now that I completely forgot about that... I don't want the season to end! I'll probably have to read the manga afterwards because I don't think we'll get a third season anytime soon. ;_;
It feels like the current arc might be resolved this season and it will go into a different direction afterwards (judging by the amount of manga volumes) but it's also possible that something will go wrong and/or Nikaido ends up using her magic after all and we'll return to Caiman & Nikaido times to somehow figure out how to get rid of the cross-eye boss. That *thing* seems way more dangerous than En tbh.
I think Curse!Risu might arrive at the scene too and next episode will just end in chaos. lol
「残り3話しかないなんて信じられない」って言われて、今のめり込みすぎてそのこと完全に忘れてた…シーズン終わってほしくない! その後は多分漫画を読むしかないな。第3シーズンがすぐ来るとは思えないし。
今のアークは今シーズン中に解決して、その後は別の方向に進むんだろうな(漫画の巻数的に)。でも、何かがうまくいかずに二階堂が結局魔法を使って、カイマンと二階堂の時間軸に戻って十字目のボスを倒す方法を探す展開もあり得ると思う。あの“何か”はエンよりよほど危険に見えるし。
あと、呪いのリスが現場に到着して、次回はカオスで終わるんじゃないかな(笑)。考察くん+23
Akagami_No_Atomsk
Dai Dark reference!
草、Dai Darkのネタやんけ!2ちゃん+86
affnn
I gotta read dai dark one of these days
読みたい!Dai Dark、そのうち絶対読むわッ!感情くん+30
ckrono
Its basically dorohedoro in space, with the protagonists being the equivalent of murder hobos
同意。Dai Darkはドロヘドロの宇宙版って感じで、主人公たちも殺人放火系ホーボーみたいなもんだね。普通くん+29
tripleaamin
I really should get to reading this and the New Helck series one of these days.
せやな、ワイもそのうち読まなアカンと思ってるンゴ。New Helckも気になるわ。2ちゃん+15
Hellknightx
There's a new Helck series? I need to finish the old one then.
新しいHelckシリーズあるの?それなら古い方を先に終わらせないとな。普通くん+8
henninja
Damn nice catch! I wonder if there’s any other references from earlier this season…
おおっ、ナイス発見やん!
今期の最初の方にも他にリファレンスあったんかな…気になるンゴ2ちゃん+10
RelativeMundane9045
Imagine the first major indicator of an impending societal collapse being mushrooms disappearing. I love this show.
社会崩壊の最初の兆候がキノコの消失って、めっちゃ面白い設定だよね。この作品、大好きだわ。普通くん+84
BosuW
I think it's like if you deleted all plastic lol
それな!プラスチック全部消えたらみんなパニックになるじゃん?ドロヘドロの世界観やばすぎ笑ギャル+25
za_shiki-warashi
>potential hallway fight scene
Yeap, this is gonna be LIT.
廊下での戦闘シーンくるかもね。これはもうアツくなるでしょ。普通くん+63
Equivalent-Weather59
HELL YEAH
やばいじゃん!まじでアツすぎるんだけど!?ギャル+21
BosuW
Who on the Cross Eyes side can realy fight apart from knife dude though?
確かに、ナイフの奴以外でCross Eyes側にまともに戦える奴っているのかね?普通くん+7
ShiftAdventurous4680
They're Cross Eyes, they can all fight. Even that girl whos only partway into her initiation could probably tango even if she'd ultimately lose.
それな。Cross Eyesは全員戦えるやろ。あの試験途中の女の子でも多分やり合えるけど、最終的には負けるンゴwww2ちゃん+30
Zeph-Shoir
I am NOT ready for the potential casualties. I love these goofballs so much
まじでやばくね!?犠牲者出たら泣くってマジで。このバカたちまじで愛おしすぎるんだが笑ギャル+5
TeddyNL
This show is too much fun
このアニメ、楽しすぎるだろ普通くん+61
LeonKevlar
Well that explains why Nikaido never wanted to use her powers again. She basically erased a family member from the timeline because of her time travel shenanigans. Then she tried to use it again to fix her mistake, only for her to end up not meeting Kawajiri's family. Damn.
二階堂が能力使いたがらなかった理由がわかったわ…草。タイムトラベルのせいで家族を歴史から消しちゃったんやな。しかも修正しようとして逆に川尻の家族と出会えなくなったって、マジで重すぎやろ…。2ちゃん+60
Pecuthegreat
Never ask your neighborhood devil supremacist the species of their husband
近所の悪魔崇拝者に旦那の種族を聞いちゃダメだよ普通くん+53
mrbekir141
hahaha 😄
草ァ!それなwww2ちゃん+7
Simple_Buy_8584
IM SO EXCITED FOR THE NEXT WEEK I CANT WAIT
来週が待ちきれなさすぎるッ!!興奮が抑えられない!!感情くん+45
FarCritical
You'd think everyone would dwell on En's death just a little more but we get a motorcycle chase in the air instead. This story is the gift that keeps on giving man.
The beating of Shin's heart mask is the coolest thing ever
エンの死についてもっと掘り下げるかと思いきや、空中バイクチェイスが来るとは。この物語は本当にネタを切らさないな。
シンの心臓マスクの鼓動、あれが最高にクールすぎる。普通くん+43
JJVM99
原文
Finally!!! We see Haru’s magic user form! I have been waiting the entire season to see her animated. Kasukabe is a very lucky man for a woman that hot to be his wife. It makes her horrific singing skills worth it.
The start of this episode was one of the best examples of a character’s influence in a world I have seen. En and his mushroom’s were so prevalent in the world it was impossible to hide it when he died. Shin and Noi’s conversation also represents very well En’s importante: yes he was a narcissitic piece of shit who only cared about himself but he established some sort of order in this world through fear. In our world En would be a horrifying dictator whose death would be celebrated but in Dorohedoro’s world it makes the world a worse place as it eliminates the only order that existed to keep people in check.
Nikaido’s backstory scene was devastating. I completely understand why she would refuse to use magic after that, that would leave me traumatized for life and crying about it always. She didn’t know what was happening, she was too young to understand and it is so innocent I would struggle to even call it a mistake because she didn’t know that was when they saved Yakumo or that the baby was even passing. And now when she returns nobody knows the past and its a burden she has to live with alone with nobody believing her or understanding. I will ask to understand Asu’s story of how he met Nikaido was completely different so I am assuming Nikaido used her power’s again to try to get Yakumo back and probably failed but that also caused her to never live with the uncle and auntie and not meet Asu until much later? Can I confirm if this is the case without spoiling animeonlies or is this me failing media literacy?
Overall a fantastic episode which had everything: great action with the broom chase sequence, great comedy with the en pizza sequence, hit you in the feels with the nikaido backstory and even some horror with the cross-eye’s boss room sequence.
ついにハルの魔法使い形態が描かれたか!シーズン通して彼女のアニメーションを待ち望んでいたんだが、カスカベはあれだけの美女を妻にできるとは本当に運がいい。彼女の歌唱力の酷さもそれで帳消しだな。
冒頭のエンとキノコの世界への影響力の描き方は、キャラクターの存在感を示すお手本の一つだと思われる。エンの死後、その影響が隠せないほど世界に浸透していたのがよく分かる。シンとノイの会話もエンの重要性を如実に物語っている。確かに彼は自己愛性のクズで自分しか考えていなかったが、恐怖によってこの世界に秩序をもたらしていた。現実世界ならエンは恐ろしい独裁者で死が祝福される存在だが、ドロヘドロの世界では人々を抑止する唯一の秩序を失わせ、世界をより悪化させる結果になっている。
二階堂の過去シーンは心を打つものだった。あの出来事の後、彼女が魔法を使うのを拒否するのは完全に理解できる。あれは一生トラウマになるし、思い出すたびに泣いてしまうだろう。彼女は何が起きているのか理解できず、あまりに幼くて無知だった。それを過ちと呼ぶのは難しい。ヤクモを救うタイミングだったと知らなかったし、赤ん坊が亡くなっていることすら認識していなかったのだから。そして現在、彼女が戻っても過去を知る者は誰もおらず、誰にも信じてもらえず理解されない孤独な重荷を背負っている。アスとの出会いの話が全く考察くん+40
Nollaus
原文
> I will ask to understand Asu’s story of how he met Nikaido was completely different so I am assuming Nikaido used her power’s again to try to get Yakumo back and probably failed but that also caused her to never live with the uncle and auntie and not meet Asu until much later? Can I confirm if this is the case without spoiling animeonlies or is this me failing media literacy?
The way I understood it she caused the auntie and uncle to miss Yakumo drifting by which led to Yakumo's death, and the altered first meeting with Kawajiri implies she then tried to time travel again and ended up completely changing her past to a point where she never lived in that house at all. (Since we see the house itself disappear.) It explains why, in last episode, when Kawajiri comes to rescue Nikaido he introduces himself to her as Asu. If their past as siblings still existed, would it not have made more sense to call himself Kawajiri, especially since he's no longer a Devil?
なるほど、俺の理解だと二階堂が叔父さん夫婦にヤクモの漂流を見逃させたせいでヤクモが死んで、最初の川尻との出会いが変わったってことは、彼女がまたタイムトラベルを試みて、過去を完全に変えてしまい、あの家に住んでなかったってことになるんだよな(家自体が消えたから)。最終回で川尻が二階堂を助けに来た時に「アス」って名乗ったのも、それで説明がつく。もし元の兄妹関係がまだ続いてたなら、特に悪魔じゃなくなった今、川尻って名乗る方が自然じゃないか?普通くん+41
JJVM99
yeah i’m seeing the full picture now. Poor Nikaido, I could see her even having gone back more times that we don’t know about only for things to get worse every time until she finally gave up and decided to never user her magic again (this is pure speculation on my part).
それな。全体像が見えてきたな。二階堂が過去に戻るたびに状況が悪化して、最終的に魔法を使うのを諦めたっていう考察、結構納得できる。実際、アニメの描写を踏まえると、彼女が何度も時間をやり直した痕跡が随所に見られるんだよな。特に、アスの記憶と二階堂の記憶に食い違いがある点は、まさにその伏線だと思われる。考察くん+21
Nollaus
原文
I was wondering why Kawajiri introduced himself as Asu to Nikaido last episode. Guess that explains that...yet this opens up so many new possibilities for the story—what is this Kawajiri's backstory, then? Why is he going to such lengths for Nikaido's sake if her saving him from those sorcerers was their only point of connection? Unless getting to be a Devil truly is just that big of a deal.
Poor freaking Nikaido. God damn.
So: being a Devil makes you either long-living or immortal, and it is in theory possible for a sorcerer and a Devil to be the same yet function separately. Hmm, hmm, hmm.
Nice to see Turkey make another appearance! That pizza looked good. En looks weird without his mask. Love the little mustache.
That racing scene was awesome. The production has stepped up so much from s1. Worried for Shin and Noi...my prediction is they will get schooled by Boss, but Nikaido's magic will undo things. I'm so curious what the rules of it are, exactly. Does the box allow only her to travel through time? Or does it apply to anyone who's with her, or is it whoever handles the box? If it were any author other than this one I'd be worried about the writing quality when time travel gets involved but with Dorohedoro I'm just excited.
Yet another cliffhanger; yet another week of torture.
カワジリが前回ニカイドーに「アス」って名乗った理由が分かったな…でもこれで話が広がりすぎじゃない?あのカワジリの過去って何なんだよ。魔法使いから助けただけの関係なのに、なんでそこまでニカイドーのために尽くすんだ?悪魔になることがそんなに大事なのかよ。
ニカイドーかわいそすぎる。まじで。
つまり:悪魔になると長命か不死になって、理論上は魔法使いと悪魔が同一人物でありながら別々に動けるってことか。ふむふむ。
ターキーまた出てきたの嬉しい!あのピザうまそうだった。エンはマスク外すと違和感あるな。でもちょび髭かわいい。
レースシーンやばかった。作画がS1からめっちゃ上がってる。シンとノイが心配…ボスにボコられる予想だけど、ニカイドーの魔法でなんとかなるかな。時間移動のルールが気になる。箱を使えるのは本人だけなのか、一緒にいる人も対象なのか。他の作者なら時間旅行ものは不安だけど、ドロヘドロならワクワクする。
またもや次回まで待つ地獄。今週も長いわ。普通くん+36
Technocity777
> Unless getting to be a devil truly is just that big a deal
It basically is. Devils are basically the closest thing to Gods in the world of Dorohedoro and becoming one is the highest honor a Sorceror can achieve.
この返信、確かに考察のしがいがあるな。つまり、カワジリが二階堂に「アス」と名乗ったのは、彼が既に悪魔になることを視野に入れていた伏線だったわけだ。ドロヘドロの世界観を踏まえると、悪魔は事実上の神的存在で、魔法使いにとって悪魔になることが最大の栄誉であるという設定は、カワジリの行動原理に深く根差していると思われる。彼が二階堂に対してあえて本名を隠したのは、悪魔としての新たなアイデンティティを確立する前段階だった可能性が高い。考察くん+54
Nollaus
Figured it had to be something like that—still, that just puts his statement that he'd gladly give up his Devil powers for her in a new light. What a loyal guy.
やっぱそういうことか。でもそれなら、彼女のために喜んで悪魔の力を手放すって彼の言葉もまた違って見えてくるな。忠誠心すごい男だね。普通くん+25
Hot-Log6283
Maybe it's like one of those things where even though the timeline changed, their connection remained: "For some reason I feel easy talking to you."
確かに!タイムライン変わっても繋がりだけは残ってるってエモすぎるッ。「なんでかお前だと話しやすい」ってセリフ、マジで優勝だわ…泣いた感情くん+12
Devoidoxatom
Honestly we can probably assume he's put pieces together when he learned Nikaido's power, that she hates using it, and why she followed him around and helped him.
He achieved his biggest goal cos a random kid saved him, that's not just smth you forget about.
確かに、カワジリがニカイドウの能力を知って、彼女が嫌がってることや何で自分についてきて助けてたのかを察したんだろうな。最大の目標を達成できたのも、あの子に助けられたからだし、それは忘れられないよな。普通くん+12
Nollaus
I love how he was smart enough to realize what's going on without Nikaido having to spell it out, and how the story itself respects the viewer enough to not spoon-feed exposition about what's happening.
せやな、二階堂の能力知った時点で察してたんやろな。わざわざ説明されんでも状況を理解できるカイマンの頭の良さ、そして視聴者をバカにせんストーリー展開がガチで好きやわ。2ちゃん+12
ftmftw94
Asu is the only name he thought she knew. He said, “Kawajiri-nii in your sleep but i never told you my name”
え、マジで!?川尻がアスって名乗ったの、そういうことか~!
「寝言で『川尻兄』って言うけど、俺は名前教えてない」って台詞、やばすぎじゃん!?ギャル+6
Nollaus
Yeah that's my point, Kawajiri thinking she only knew him as Asu obviously makes sense with the revelations in this episode, but it didn't during episode 7 when they supposedly used to live together.
確かに、今回の展開でカワジリが「彼女は俺のことをアスって名前しか知らない」って思うのは分かるけど、第7話で一緒に住んでたって設定なら当時は矛盾してたよね。普通くん+10
Hot-Log6283
Didn't they show in the same episode that the Devil meat was basically sold by the butcher?
同じ回で悪魔の肉が肉屋で普通に売ってたって描写なかったっけ?草2ちゃん+16
genasugelan
Finally you can see why Haru is best girl.
That broom chase sequence was the animators flexing, lol.
Also, Nikaido was a monster even as a child, I had completely forgotten, lol.
わかるッ!ハルが最強ヒロインな理由がついに見えたァ!
あのホウキチェイスシーン、作画マジでヤバすぎて優勝。アニメーターが全力で遊んでる感ハンパない、笑った。
あと二階堂、子供の頃からもう怪物だったの忘れてたわwww しんどすぎる感情くん+35
PowerOhene
Like how!?
Was she using magic to reinforce her body?
How old is she there? 6?!
What a small beast, gawd damm!
確かに。どうやって!?
魔法で身体強化してるのか?
あの時のニカイドウって6歳!?
ちっちゃい野獣だな、マジやばい。普通くん+6
genasugelan
Nah, she's just build different.
いや、あの子はガチで規格外やろwww
6歳であれはマジで草生えるわ2ちゃん+6
Catac0
The karaoke scene??? Aggretsuko vibes.
カラオケのシーン??これアグレッシブ烈子っぽいな。普通くん+35
AbanoMex
since Q Hayashida is a big fan of Slipknot, i think the style of song was an homage to that band.
やばくね!?カラオケのシーンまじでAggretsuko思い出したわ笑
てか林田QってSlipknotの大ファンなんだってさ!だからあの曲のスタイル、あのバンドへのオマージュなんじゃない?ギャル+13
_oreocakesters
people are sleeping on this anime
みんなこのアニメに気づいてなさすぎやろwww2ちゃん+32
henninja
Haru’s such a good lyricist, I love her :,)
ハルの作詞センスやばすぎるッ!まじで好きすぎる泣いた、、、:,)感情くん+28
m-ray168
This season is just something else and that chase scene looked incredible! Also En is so built different that even pizza En can ride that bike.
今シーズンは別格すぎるし、あの追跡シーンめっちゃ凄かった!あと煙様はやっぱ規格外だな、ピザ煙でもあのバイク乗りこなせるの笑う。普通くん+27
marcopolos059
Damn what a cliffhanger, a bloodbath next week? I can't wait!
うわマジかよ!来週は血みどろバトルってこと!?待ちきれなさすぎるッ!!感情くん+27
Hellknightx
The show does such a good job of making you care about all the characters and now I'm afraid of who might die when Shin and Noi fight the Cross-Eyes.
せやな、マジで全キャラに愛着湧くように作られてるから、シンとノイが十字眼と戦う時誰死ぬか怖すぎンゴwww2ちゃん+10
KrzyDankus
time magic kinda scary
時間魔法ってまじで怖くね!?笑ギャル+21
MidOceanRidgeBasalts
Shin’s face at the end, omggg. I can’t wait for next week. I loved Haru’s song, Kasukabe’s a lucky guy. This episode was amazing but I don’t have anything more to say because my brain gets turned to mush after every episode of Dorohedoro from all the Dorohedoro happening.
最後のシンさんの表情、やばすぎだろ…。来週が待ちきれない。ハルの歌は最高だったし、カスカベは幸運なやつだな。今週のエピソードは素晴らしかったけど、ドロヘドロの濃密な展開で毎回脳みそがドロドロになるから、もうこれ以上は語れない。考察くん+22
tripleaamin
原文
So essentially regarding the Nikadou and Kawajiri side.
* Originally she was taken by that older couple. Where she was with Kawajiri and Yamuto.
* Her time magic altered the present, where it is implied Yakumo is dead.
* In the current timeline Kawajiri never told Nikaidou his name. As it shows, he didn't meet her until she saved him.
Really makes the circumstance of Nikaidou's time magic very intriguing.
All the scenes of Ebisu laughing have me dying of laughter. 😆
We got the Crosseyes facing off against Shin and Noi is gonna be good.
ニカイドウと川尻の件な
・元々はあの老夫婦に引き取られて、川尻やヤクモと一緒にいた
・彼女の時間魔法が現在を変えて、ヤクモは死んだっぽい暗示
・今のタイムラインだと川尻はニカイドウに名前教えてなくて、助けられるまで出会ってなかったって描写
ニカイドウの時間魔法の設定、ガチで興味深いンゴwww
エビスが笑ってるシーン全部ワイも笑い死ぬわ😆
クロスアイズvsシン&ノイの対決は間違いなくアツいやろ2ちゃん+23
WeatherReportu285
It was weird where we were having a dungeon meshi cooking scene and Ebisu just laughing randomly. And butt pizza was amusing for some reason
返信コメントの内容、確かにわかる!
ダンジョン飯の料理シーン中にエビスが突然笑い出して「?」ってなるの、めっちゃシュールすぎるッ!笑
あとケツピザ、なんでか知らんけどクセになる面白さだったわ。感情くん+6
Equivalent-Weather59
Good lord, this season is such a step up compared to last season.
マジか、今期は前期と比べて格段に良くなってるな。普通くん+22
misc_reddit_account
原文
Not many shows can effortless manage to the tonal shift of Dorohedoro: the horror of The Boss in the ceiling ducts, to the reflection of the somber loss of En and Nikaido's past, to the absolute hilarity of Haru spontaneously bursting into screaming heavy metal to sing about her feelings, which happen to be about how lame humans are. Johnson had a great time, but Kasukabe might now have tinnitus.
I'd thought between episodes the loss of En would have large repercussions, but never considered truly how visibly world changing it would be. The show had also obviously implied whatever happened with Nikaido's powers was horrible, but the extra level of devastation being that Yakumo was never spotted in the river as a baby and drowned because of Nikaido accidentally distracting their aunt and uncle with her arrival. Oh, Nikaido.
On a cheerier note, even lil' Nikaido is a power house with her martial arts, and brought excellent lil' Goku energy to fighting adults to protect Kawajiri. It's also good Kawajiri has his skin back in the present day, because that looked horribly painful.
I wonder where Chota and Kikurage landed?
ドロヘドロのトーン切り替えマジで異次元やろ
天井ダクトのボス怖さ→エンと二階堂の過去の喪失→ハルが急にデスメタル絶叫で感情爆発させて人間のクソさ歌い出すギャグ
ジョンソンは楽しかったっぽいけど、粕壁は耳キーンしてそう
エンの死の影響デカすぎて草
まさか世界がここまで変わるとは思わんかったわ
二階堂の能力の件も匂わせてたけど、夜雲が川で赤ん坊のまま見つからず溺死した原因が彼女ってのが胸糞すぎるンゴ……
二階堂ェ……
明るい話題としては、ちっこい二階堂でも格闘技でガチ強くて、川尻守るために大人と戦う姿が悟空やったわ
今の川尻が皮膚戻ってて良かった あれ絶対痛かったやろ
蝶太とキクラゲどこ行ったんやろな?2ちゃん+16
Shimmering-Sky
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- He must’ve had mushrooms *everywhere*.
- Ah. That’d be no on being able to revive him in that case.
- Hahaha, I love these two.
- So Nikaido’s first use of magic sent her to the past, huh.
- Also there was just… a baby drifting down the river there?
- Oh shit… Nikaido’s trip to the past accidentally distracted them so they never picked up Yakumo…
- Oh fuck.
- Hooboy…
- Hahahahaha alright then.
- That does look like a good pizza ngl.
- The doll is apparently able to use a broom, huh.
- Pff
- Welp. This should be good.
【考察くんスタイル】
- 彼はきのこを**そこら中に**撒いてたんだろうな。あれなら蘇生は無理だわな。
- この二人の掛け合い、本当に好き。ニカイドウの初めての魔法が過去へのタイムスリップだったという考察ができる。
- あと、川を流れてた赤ん坊は何だ?まさか…ニカイドウの過去介入で彼らが気を取られ、ヤクモを拾えなくなったのか。
- ああ、やべえ…この流れだと、伏線が回収される形で話が動きそうだ。
- いやでもそのピザ、確かに旨そうに見えるな。人形が箒を使えるというのも興味深い設定だ。
- ふっ…これは面白い展開になりそうだ。考察くん+15
gigitay27
caiman acting all nonchalant since he got back his body
カイマン、体戻ってからあのクールな態度はズルいよな普通くん+16
ObvsThrowaway5120
原文
Aikawa’s really done it now. The whole magic world is in chaos after his little massacre of En and his boys. Now that his former boys have converged on the building right as Shin and Noi have shown up, shit’s about to go down. I wonder if Aikawa even really is inside that room?
I’m also curious to see if Nikaido’s gonna use her time manipulation magic to clean up this whole mess? A power like that really is almost like a cheat skill.
相川マジでやらかしたな。エンとその仲間をブッ殺したせいで魔法世界が大混乱やん。かつての仲間たちがビルに集結したとこにシンとノイも現れて、もう修羅場確定やろ。あの部屋に相川ホントにいるんかね?
それと二階堂が時間操作魔法でこのゴタゴタを収めるのか気になるンゴ。あの能力チートすぎやろwww2ちゃん+16
professorMaDLib
So are people going to be rooting for the cleaners or the poverty gang? Dorohedoro is quite good at creating fights where both sides are lovable and radiate protag energy
あーアイカワやっちゃったね!あいつがエンたちをぶっ殺したせいで魔法界めっちゃカオスじゃん笑
んでさ、みんなは掃除屋派?それとも貧乏ギャング派?ドロヘドロってさ、どっちも推したくなるし、両方に主人公オーラあってマジで良いバトルになるんだよね!ギャル+38
genasugelan
That's why I don't even classify any one character as a protagonist and instead say there are three groups of protagonists. They are all about equally as important.
確かに、誰か一人を主人公って決めるのは難しいよね。三つのグループがそれぞれ同じくらい重要な存在って感じだな。普通くん+13
darkcyde_
This is the single most impressive thing about Dorohedoro. I can't think of a single show in _any_ medium that accomplishes it that well. It's hard to even point out who the good guys are.
せやな、ドロヘドロの一番すごいとこやわ。ワイも「主人公グループ3つ」って言うしかないわ。善人すら特定できんしな。どの媒体見てもここまで完璧にやってる作品は思いつかんわ。ガチで草。2ちゃん+7
a1oner_bvcksn6
原文
I'm gonna be rooting for the CE gang to be on top for once--they deserve more than just a day-off, if you get what I mean. Heck they could really use some RnR and be treated like royalty for a week, maybe a month.
And tho I say that, it doesn't mean I want Shin and Noi to get badly hurt or worse, killed. If they prioritize on simply retrieving En's head, I do think they have a path to get a small(er) win, as opposed to wiping out the CE gang
俺は今回だけはCE(中央警察)側を応援するかな。彼らには休暇だけじゃ足りないと思うんだよ。むしろ一週間とか一ヶ月くらい王族扱いされてもいいくらいだよ。
でもそうは言っても、シンとノイが酷く傷ついたり死んだりするのは見たくない。エンの頭だけ回収に集中すれば、CEを全滅させるよりは小さな勝利を得られる道はあると思う。普通くん+12
Nollaus
It looked like the Boss had already gotten busy with En's head so I doubt the confrontation will be that easy. What's the point of retrieving the head if En's brain and the Devil tumor have already been extracted? (At least I'm assuming the Boss is after the Devil tumors inside the heads he collects.)
確かに、CE組には一度くらい勝ってほしい気持ちはわかるな。ただ、エンから頭部を回収した後でボスがすでにエンの頭で何か始めてたように見えるから、対決はそう簡単じゃないはずだ。そもそも、エンの脳と悪魔の腫瘍が既に摘出されてたら、頭を取り戻す意味が薄れる。ボスが集めた頭の中の悪魔の腫瘍を狙ってるって前提なら尚更、この展開は伏線的な要素が強いと考察できる。考察くん+17
a1oner_bvcksn6
Nikaido has no reason to clean up after En and his mess. And Nikaido's time magic is as much of a curse than a blessing as we've seen this episode. It's like making a wish to a monkey's paw, seriously. No wonder she hasn't use it since.
Also, Aikawa hasn't done shit.
二階堂がエンたちの後始末をする義理はないしな。今回のエピソードで分かったけど、二階堂の時間魔法は祝福ってより呪いだよ。まさに猿の手に願いをかけるようなもんだわ。そりゃあれ以来使わないわけだ。
それに、アイカワはまだ何もやってないじゃん。普通くん+10
Parking-Potato-2441
they made a full song for Haru!
まじで!?ハルのためにフル曲作ったの!?やばくない!?ギャル+14
NanDemoKnaives
So my understanding is that Nikaidou went back in time as a child and completely changed past events, so Yakumo passed away as a baby because she wasn't saved. I can see why Nikaidou is so scared to use her time magic, I don't even think she'd know how to use since she hasn't been trying to learn about it.
なるほど、二階堂が子ども時代に戻って過去を変えたせいで、八雲が助けられずに赤ちゃんのまま亡くなったってことか。二階洞が時間魔法を使うのを怖がる理由がわかるな。そもそも学ぼうとしてないから、使い方すらわかってなさそうだし。普通くん+13
Temperance10
This show has such peak “show-don’t-tell” world-building. Yes it’s all absolutely batshit insane but it’s not *pure* chaos, and it makes *just* enough sense for you to keep coming back for more.
このアニメの「見せて説明しない」世界観構築がマジで最高すぎるッ!確かにめちゃくちゃ狂ってるけど、完全なカオスじゃなくて、もっと見たくなる絶妙な納得感があるんだよな。感情くん+13
Say_o_nara
It feels like the episodes only last 5 minutes lol, so good
毎回5分くらいにしか感じないわ笑、それくらい面白い普通くん+9
Aggravating-Wolf-823
Yeah this one went by quiiick
せやな、今回もあっちゅう間やったわwww2ちゃん+6
X-Vidar
Is it just me or the netflix subs were especially bad this episode? I noticed at least 4 or 5 obvious mistakes
確かに今回のNetflix字幕、特にひどくなかった?少なくとも4〜5ヶ所は明らかな間違いがあった気がする普通くん+10
precariousworld
Yeah the Netflix subs were absolute ass this time, lots of stuff that was just straight up wrong
せやな、Netflixの字幕ガチでクソやったわ。明らかなミスが何個もあったし草2ちゃん+8
Fun-Ad-1145
原文
Turkey's model is kinda weird, it seems that they did a model of their body but for some reason I think their Turkey head is hand drawn.\
I guess that's the thing with making a CG Show with a very specific aesthetic, you have to start making all assets from scratch.
Also I can't unhear Adrien and Marinette when I see in Fujita and Ebisu in the dub now even though Christina puts on a very different voice.
トルコのモデルちょっと変だよね。体はCGなのに頭だけ手描きっぽい感じがする。あの独特な絵柄のCGアニメを作るなら、アセット全部ゼロから作らないといけないってことか。
あと吹き替えで藤田と恵比寿見ると、クリスティーナが全然違う声にしてるのに、どうしてもアドリアンとマリネットが頭から離れないんだよな。普通くん+11
daNorthernMan
I thought this was the final episode, are we getting 12 episodes? If so that's amazing
えっ最終回だと思ってた!まさか全12話なの?!それ最高すぎるッ!!感情くん+8
henninja
11 episodes! So not 12 but better than 8
11話だって!12じゃないけど8よりはマシだね普通くん+22
daNorthernMan
Yay the more the merrier
やった!たくさんあればあるほど嬉しいに決まってるッ!感情くん+7
scarpedieme
We’re getting 11!
11話やで!草2ちゃん+12
tanoyfrommars
I think wel have an extra ova like last time
確かに!前回みたいにOVAが追加されるっぽいよね。めっちゃ嬉しい!!感情くん+6
WeatherReportu285
I read the manga years ago and I'm still amazed how this season keeps me watching.
Small things like how the henchmen thought Shin and Noi are busy doing stuff, Ebisu randomly laughing and butt pizza, and the devil singing how humans only lived to 90 were a treat.
漫画は何年も前に読んだんだけど、今期も引き続き面白くて見ちゃうわ。
手下たちが「シンとノイは忙しいんだな」って勘違いしてるところとか、エビスの突然の笑いとケツピザ、人間は90年しか生きられないって悪魔が歌ってる小ネタがたまらなかった。普通くん+10
Cook-Miserable
I need a Dorohedoro racing game with the Brooms like now!
ドロヘドロの箒レースゲームが今すぐ欲しいッ!マジで早く実装してくれーッ!感情くん+9
Devoidoxatom
the fat cross eye's reaction to seeing Shin and Noi is pretty badass. that's freakin Shin and Noi and he just laughs. Also Haru was surprisingly pretty fun lol
え、あのデブの目玉のクロス野郎、シンとノイ見てあの反応やばくない!?笑っちゃうとかまじで強心臓すぎるじゃん!てかハルも意外と面白くてウケたわ笑ギャル+6
SlimeDNear
Watching Dorohedoro is a joy because I've forgotten all the insanity from my manga read, and can experience it all again.
ドロヘドロ見てると漫画読んだ時のカオスさを忘れてまた新鮮な気持ちで楽しめるんだよね。普通くん+7
Brolaub
原文
Nikaido being healed so easily definitely suprised me. I thought that losing an eye, an arm and a leg would be a bigger deal, but now she was fully healed off-screen?!
I love this show but I really wanted to see how she would deal with this issue and find a solution instead of this. I know Asu said he bought jars of healing smoke, but where did he get the money from? Maybe later, we will get an explanation for that at least...
二階堂がこんなに簡単に治ったのは確かに驚きだったな。片目と片腕と片脚を失うって結構な大ごとだと思ってたのに、まさか画面外で完全回復とはね。
この作品は好きだけど、彼女がどうやってこの問題に対処して解決策を見つけるかを見たかったんだよな。アスが治癒の煙の瓶を買ったって言ってたけど、その金はどこから出たんだ?少なくとも後でその辺の説明があることを期待したい…考察くん+7
ShiftAdventurous4680
Probably doesn't need an explanation. We've seen people healed from severed limbs and even death. As for where Asu got the smoke... I mean the dude can teleport. Easily could've stole it or did something to earn a lot of money since his ability is rare.
二階堂の回復が簡単すぎて草。片目片腕片足失ったらもっと重傷やろって思っとったわ
説明不要やろ。切断や死ですら治る世界観やし。アスの煙に関しては…あいつテレポートできるやん。レア能力で金稼いだり盗んだり簡単にできたやろな2ちゃん+11
Aggravating-Wolf-823
Seems like Noi isn't the only one with this healing magic. And so many sorcerers sell their smoke
やばっ!二階堂の回復、まじで簡単すぎじゃない!?片目と腕と足失ったらもっとヤバいことになると思ってたんだけど笑
つーか、Noiだけじゃなくて他の奴も回復魔法使えるってこと?しかも魔術師たちが煙売ってるってマジ?ギャル+7
somersault_dolphin
The only real reason Nikaido is ok is because En died and his mushroom magic got dispelled. Otherwise, the healing smoke Asu got (which he already said his goal was to get one for himself as well) wouldn't be able to heal Nikaido. We saw En died last episode, it's just that many people didn't think about the consequences of his death.
エンが死んでキノコの魔法が解けたから二階堂は無事だったんだよね。そうじゃなきゃ、アスが手に入れた回復煙(本人も自分の分を手に入れるのが目的って言ってたし)でも二階堂は治せなかったはず。前の話でエンが死んだのは確かだけど、その影響を考えてる人は少なかったな。普通くん+6
ShiftAdventurous4680
原文
It's not like your worry was unfounded. Just think of your worry being Asu's worry. But it just so happens Asu has one of the most broken abilities in the show. If it was anyone else looking after Nikaido, even Kaiman, there probably may have been a reason to show what happened.
In saying that, it would definitely go with the humor of Dorohedoro if there was 8 seconds dedicated to Asu teleporting Nikaido and then teleporting, stealing some healing smoke and healing them. You could then also segue into Asu's devil training backstory to show how strong Asu had to become to not have to rely on his teleportation abilities for the duration of his exams. That Asu is not just a one-trick pony who is overly reliant on his magic.
なるほど、確かに君の懸念は完全に的外れではなかったと言える。その心配そのものが、実はアス自身の内面を映し出しているという考察ができる。ただ、アスは本作でも屈指のチート級能力の持ち主だからな。もし二階堂の面倒を見るのが他のキャラ、例えばカイマンだったなら、別の展開を見せる必要があったかもしれない。
それを踏まえると、もしアスが二階堂をテレポートさせた8秒間の描写があれば、その間に治療用の煙を盗んで回復させる、というドロヘドロらしいユーモアに繋がっただろうな。さらに、そこからアスの悪魔修行の過去編へと展開し、彼がいかにして試験期間中にテレポート能力に頼らずに済むほど強くなったかを描く伏線にもなったはず。つまり、アスは単なる魔法頼みのワンパターンなキャラではない、という制作陣の意図が読み取れる。考察くん+5
derega16
I saw Dai Dark cameo, hope it gets animated soon
ダイ・ダークのカメオ見た!早くアニメ化してほしい~ッ!感情くん+5
RonSwanson29
He’s still alive, pretty sure he’s supposed to be the boss now, just no lizard head
やばっ!まだ生きてんの!?今はボス的な感じなんじゃね?ただトカゲの頭じゃなくなったってことか〜ギャル+10
BakedSalami
Yeah I think caiman is definitely still floating around in there somewhere. The question is in what way. Shared memories, multiple personalities, separate souls, a combination of the above, who knows. Something fucked up is going on with that body though and it probably has nothing to do with Ebisu's magic.
確かにカイマンはまだどこかに潜んでると思うよ。問題はどんな形でってとこだな。記憶共有なのか、多重人格なのか、別々の魂なのか、その複合なのか、さっぱりわからん。でもあの体には何かヤバいことが起きてて、多分エビスの魔法とは関係ないんだろうな。普通くん+8