KumaKumaGambler
Akane, please never stop being an energetic tomboyish gyaru. I enjoyed her fighting pose as a greeting. Iwa sensei is gradually becoming one of Akane's biggest fans.
あかねの元気ハツラツボーイッシュギャルキャラ、永遠に続けてくれや。挨拶代わりのファイティングポーズ草生えたわ。岩鉄先生、徐々にあかねの一番のファンになってるやんwww2ちゃん
thisisdropd
Akane truly embodied the spirit of a shonen protagonist. From the hotheadedness, to the lack of tact, to the winging-it attitude.
あかねはまさに少年漫画の主人公って感じだったな。短気で空気読めないし、行き当たりばったりなところも含めてね。普通くん
Frontier246
She even wears a men's kimono to do rakugo battle in. (Though she has much nicer hair than the average Shonen protagonist. Admittedly her mom would probably never let her leave the apartment with bad hair lol)
彼女が落語対決をする時に男物の着物を着ている点が興味深い。ただし、平均的な少年漫画の主人公より明らかに髪が綺麗だな。母親がボサボサ頭で外に出るのを許さないという考察もできる。制作陣のキャラ造形の意図が感じられる。考察くん
Jauretche
I wonder if it's normal for pro female rakugokas to use male kimonos.
まあ、プロの女性落語家が男性用の着物を着るのは普通なんだろうな。ドライおじ
Argletrough
In-story explanation: Akane borrowed the one she wears from Shiguma, who never had any female apprentices before her, that we know of.
作中での説明だと、あかねが着てるやつはシグマから借りたものなんだよね。シグマにはあかね以前に女性の弟子がいなかったらしい。普通くん
Jauretche
Nice catch! Never thought about it.
おっ、気づかなかったわ草2ちゃん
crixx93
IIRC women were only allowed to do Rakugo starting the late 80s. It's even a plot point in the manga
確か女性が落語をできるようになったのは80年代後半からだよね。原作でもその辺が重要な要素になってるんだよな。普通くん
Nachtwandler_FS
Wasn't it 70s? And it is a bit more nuanced. They could do rskugo, but they wee not allowed past appretince rank till when. And you cannot perform by yourself or take pupils without being a master.
70年代じゃなかったっけ?w でももうちょっと複雑だよな。落語はできたけど、見習いのランクから上がれなかった時期があってさ。師匠にならないと一人で演じたり弟子を取ったりできないんだよな笑wwwおじ
doomrider7
Been watching a lot of rakugo and it seems like a personal quirk choice of hers.
最近落語めっちゃ観てるんやけど、これは彼女の個人的なクセみたいな選択やなって思うわ。2ちゃん
Jauretche
Can you recommend some rakugo on YouTube?
YouTubeでおすすめの落語ある?普通くん
doomrider7
Katsura Sunshine is always a good choice since he's great at explaining the details, but here's some video's I GREATLY enjoyed by others. Beans Scared of Manju Shinigami And since it's topical, JUGEMU
Katsura Sunshineの解説はいつも最高だよね!細かいところまで分かりやすくて神。でも俺がめっちゃハマった他の人の動画も貼っとくわ。Beans Scared of Manju Shinigamiと、今話題のJUGEMU。これマジで面白すぎるッ!感情くん
alpackabackapacka
I watched jug after this ep then rewatched the ep… thank you for these I’m Gunna check out the rest
この話見た後にジュグ観て、またこの話見直したわ… ありがとうな、残りもチェックするわ2ちゃん
Norix596
Oh wow I’ve gotta check out the Shinigami after work; I’ve seen Sunshine (including at the anime premiere event) and other videos of his and I cannot picture him doing horror. Super curious to see
えっマジか!仕事終わったら絶対見なきゃ!Sunshine(アニメ先行上映会で観たやつ)とか他の動画は見たことあるんだけど、あの人がホラーやってる姿が全然想像できない…超気になるわ!感情くん
doomrider7
It's not Sunshine, but another Rakugoka. I could totally see him do a dark comedic take of it.
ふむ、あれはサンシャインではござらぬな。別の落語家による演目でござろう。某(それがし)には、あの男が暗き笑いを交えた一席を演じる姿が、ありありと目に浮かぶでござるよ。武士
Google-Meister
Jugemu starts at 9:25 if anyone is wondering.
知りたい人のために言うと、ジュゲムは9:25から始まるよ。ドライおじ
TsukumoYurika
It is! In fact, it's even preferred for zenza and minarai because feminine kimono (especially the wide obi) can obstruct their movements and therefore their zenza work.
確かに!実際、前座や見習いの間は女性用の着物(特に幅広の帯)が動きの邪魔になるから、前座の仕事に支障が出るんだよね。普通くん
shadebug
You can’t do the taking off the coat bit if you’re in a ladies’ kimono
「女性用の着物でコート脱ぐシーンとか無理すぎるだろッ!」感情くん
GtrsRE
Heck, even Karashi doesn't know what a bad hair day is
いや、辛子でさえ「髪が決まらない日」って知らないんだよね普通くん
ModieOfTheEast
I kind of hope that Iwa sensei stays a recurring character. Even if the focus is not on school but Rakugo.
それな!岩先生には定期的に出てきてほしい~。学校メインじゃなくて落語中心になっても、あのキャラは外せないッ!感情くん
Frontier246
She's got to do her part as Akane's coach!
あかねのコーチとして、彼女も役割を果たさなきゃね!普通くん
ModieOfTheEast
And biggest fan not to forget.
やばいじゃん!一番のファンも忘れちゃダメってことね!ギャル
ClemFire
Iwa sensei really becoming the best side character
岩先生、サイドキャラとして優勝すぎるッ!感情くん
Ultramarinus
That reminded me Oguri Cap fighting pose greeting Symboli Rudolf from last year. Both characters being gung ho and very competitive about what they love to do. I love Akane, she’s my fav new lead this year. It’s rare seeing a lead that I can root for 120%. She’s energetic, hard working, well meaning but also ambitious and driven. Super cute as a bonus!
あれを見て去年のオグリキャップとシンボリルドルフのガチポーズ挨拶思い出したわ。両方とも好きなことに全力で競い合うタイプなんだよな。あかね大好き、今年の新主人公で一番のお気に入り。120%応援できる主人公って珍しいよ。元気で努力家で善意に溢れてるけど、野心も行動力もある。しかも超可愛いっていうおまけ付き!普通くん
Frontier246
Akane, please never stop being an energetic tomboyish gyaru. I enjoyed her fighting pose as a greeting. True Best Girls know when to throw hands.
あかね、元気なボーイッシュギャルでいてくれよなw 挨拶代わりのファイティングポーズ最高だったわ笑 真のベストガールは喧嘩すべき時をわかってるんだよなwwwwwおじ
BosuW
Best girls always ready to throw hands
ベストガールはいつでも喧嘩上等すぎるッ!感情くん
xbolt90
I absolutely lost it at the reporter fangirling over the voice actress, lol
レポーターが声優にガチ恋してるシーンでワイも発狂したわwww草2ちゃん
Frontier246
Average reaction to Rie Takahashi in real life.
確かにりえしょんの声は現実でもこうなるわ普通くん
an_aging_boy
All hail Rierie
リエリエ様万歳ッ!最高すぎる!!!感情くん
ali94127
Weakest reaction to Rieri.
リエリに対するリアクションが弱すぎる普通くん
GtrsRE
If I were Hayamin watching Utage, I would also fangirl over my own voice acting
もし俺が早見さんだったら、ウタゲ見ながら自分の声優演技にキャーキャー言ってた自信あるッ!感情くん
ali94127
Pseudo-Harem is basically Hayami Saori Impressions Demo Reel.
やばくね!?疑似ハーレムってまんま早見沙織のインプレ集みたいなもんじゃん笑ギャル
mekerpan
原文
A long ago (1928) movie named Show People (a great movie) featured Marion Davies as a movie-struck would-be star coming to Hollywood and (near the start) fan-girling over all the (real life) big stars she saw -- including Marion Davies. 😉 BTW -- I thought Hayamin was incredible in Pseudo Harem. And Rieri is no slouch either. It is folks like these that make me indifferent to dubbed anime (regardless of any merits it might have).
「ショー・ピープル」(1928年)って映画でマリオン・デイヴィスがハリウッドに来たばかりの映画スター志望の役で、本人含む実在の大スターにキャーキャー言ってたのを思い出したわ😉 そういや早見沙織は疑似ハーレムでめちゃくちゃ良かったな。利根健太朗も悪くなかった。こういう声優陣のおかげで吹き替え版に興味が湧かないんだよね(良さは理解しつつも)。普通くん
NanDemoKnaives
Most relatable thing in the episode lol.
このエピソードの共感ポイントすぎて笑ったww感情くん
HolyDragSwd2500
I would too fangirl over a seiyuu
せやな、声優にキャーキャー言う気持ちわかるわwww2ちゃん
Aileos
It never occured to me how annoying it must be to fold a kimono.
着物をたたむのがどれだけ面倒か、今まで気づかなかったわ。普通くん
Frontier246
Especially when someone folds your kimono for you and then unfolds it in front of you to make you do it yourself for a teachable moment lol.
ふむ……誰かがお主の着物を畳んでくれ、その後自ら解いて「自分でやれ」と教えようとする場面、まことに微笑ましいでござるな。笑ってしまい申した。武士
GtrsRE
r/mildlyinfuriating
ワイもこれ地味にイラつくンゴwww 草2ちゃん
Golden_Alchemy
Akane being like "Gotta teach a guy how to fish and then i will take the fish to my house. Fish your own fish"
「あかね、『魚の釣り方教えてやったから、その魚は俺ん家に持ってくわ。自分で釣れよ』みたいな感じなんだよな」普通くん
sesaman
I mean, in the end that would be a bigger favor than leaving the already folded kimono with her. But only if she stayed around to still help her, just leaving is a bit rude and seems more like gloating.
確かに、折り畳まれた着物を置き去りにするよりは、彼女のもとに留まることが真の恩義となるのだろう。だが、ただ去るだけでは無礼極まりなく、それはまるで勝利の余韻に浸る者の所業だ。我が目には、その選択は運命の皮肉としか映らぬ。中二病
BosuW
I can barely fold a T-shirt right...
Tシャツすらまともに畳めないんだけど…普通くん
CuriousWanderer567
Akane is really impressive turning Iwa-sensei from a strict and cold teacher into a huge fangirl after making her watch just two of her Rakugo performances.
確かに!あかねが岩先生をたった2回の落語披露で超厳しいクールな先生から大ファンに変えちゃったの、本当にすごすぎるッ!感動した!感情くん
Frontier246
I love how she's had tsundere character development to call out Koguma for acting like a tsundere without a hint of irony lol.
彼女がツンデレ的に成長して、自分はまったく自覚なしで小熊のツンデレっぷりを指摘するようになったのが面白いわw普通くん
oxlemf10
Akane's energy is so insane that it affects even the veterans who have been here much longer than her. If she managed to make the tough sensei fall in love with it, I have to love it too lol
やばくない!?あかねのエネルギーがヤバすぎて、ベテランたちまで影響されてるじゃん!あの厳しい先生でさえハマっちゃったんだから、私も好きにならざるを得ないでしょ笑ギャル
Frontier246
She's flexing that main character energy so much that someone in the actual anime industry can recognize it and realize she's a formidable rival.
主人公オーラがハンパねえわwww アニメ業界のプロですら「コイツヤベェ」って気づくレベルやん。ライバルとしてガチで認められてて草2ちゃん
LeonKevlar
原文
As a manga reader, I am so happy to finally see Karashi (VA: Eguchi Takua) and Hikaru (VA: Takahashi Rie) in animated form! There are probably two other most popular characters in this series, right next to Akane, and I can't wait to see more of them in the future. I love how Karashi thinks that Akane's Jugemu is nothing special while Hikaru thinks Akane is performing with Jugemu out of pure confidence . These two have no idea that Akane is basically being handicapped, and her real competition is the challenge Shiguma gave her.
原作読者として、ついにカラシ(CV:江口拓也)とヒカル(CV:高橋李依)がアニメで動いてるところが見られてめっちゃ嬉しい!このシリーズで一番人気のキャラって言ってもいいよね、あかねの次くらいに。カラシはあかねの寿限無を「大したことない」と思ってるのに、ヒカルは「純粋な自信でやってる」って解釈してるのが好き。二人ともあかねが実はハンデ背負ってて、本当の勝負は志熊からの挑戦だって知らないんだよな。普通くん
Se7en_Sinner
To prepare for her role as a seductive voice actor, Rie Takahashi didn't have to do anything.
マジで高橋李依は何もしなくてよかったってこと? だって彼女自体がもう完璧すぎるからな! 声優としての魅力が溢れ出てるわ。無理、優勝。感情くん
Frontier246
I love how in-universe her character became famous for basically playing the in-universe equivalent of Cure Arcana Shadow (Rieri having headlined a Precure show herself).
それな!作中で彼女がCure Arcana Shadow的なポジション(Rieri本人がプリキュア主演してるしな)で有名になったの、ガチで草生えるwww2ちゃん
ali94127
Rieri is also from the countryside. In her own words, “Saitama is an inhabitable place!”
確かにRieriも田舎出身だよね。本人曰く「埼玉は住める場所じゃない!」って言ってたし。普通くん
Frontier246
原文
As a manga reader, I am so happy to finally see Karashi (VA: Eguchi Takua) and Hikaru (VA: Takahashi Rie) in animated form! There are probably two other most popular characters in this series, right next to Akane, and I can't wait to see more of them in the future. We stan Rie Takahashi as a cool beauty seiyuu with an accent who is basically a walking kimono fanservice character. It doesn't get more cultured than this.
原作勢としては、待望のカラシ(声優:江口拓也)とヒカル(声優:高橋李依)のアニメ化マジで嬉しいわwww この2人はあかねの次に人気あるキャラやろな。高橋李依のクールビューティー方言キャラ、しかも着物でファンサしまくりってガチで有能すぎやん。これほど教養あるキャスティングはないンゴwww2ちゃん
eightcheesepizza
Special thanks to Girls Band Cry for teaching me what part of Japan "sekarashika" comes from. (the first thing Hikaru says in her accent)
ガールズバンドクライのおかげで、「せからしか」が日本のどの地域の方言か学べたよ(ヒカルが最初に訛りで言ってたやつね)。普通くん
ClemFire
Oh hey it's Emilia
おっ、エミリアじゃん!感情くん
Frontier246
Also Julius is Karashi.
ジュリアス=カラシってまじかよ草www2ちゃん
mosenpai
When I read the manga I knew it had to be Takahashie Rie as Hikaru the second they introduced her as a popular VA. Glad to finally see it happen.
やばくね!?マンガ読んでる時から、ヒカルが人気声優って紹介された瞬間に「これは高橋李依しかいないでしょ!」って思ってたんだよね笑 ついに現実になってまじ嬉しい!!ギャル
Tehoncomingstorm97
I can't help but think of Shinji Hirako when seeing Karashi
カラシ見てるとどうしても平子真子思い出しちゃうんだよなッ!感情くん
ButterIsMyLifeblood
Akane unveils her sasuke backstory to Hikaru’s Naruto
あかねが光るのナルトに自分のサスケの過去話を打ち明けるシーンか。普通くん
Frontier246
That moment when two ladies realize they're being set up as anime rivals, complete with the appropriate backstories and character set ups.
あの瞬間こそ、運命の歯車が動き出したのだ。二人の乙女は気づいてしまった——自らがアニメの宿敵として、過去と能力を完璧に整えられて配置された存在であると。まさに因果の糸が絡み合う、宿命の邂逅よ。中二病
BosuW
I don't think Akane realized yet 😅
あかねまだ気づいてないっぽくない!?笑ギャル
Worthyness
She's just out there living her best life and training to get revenge. Very normal and adjusted.
彼女はただ自分の人生を楽しみながら復讐のために修行してるだけ。めっちゃ普通で順応してるよね。普通くん
duo99dusk
Maybe Hikaru has a giant snow fox monster of Rakugo-energy inside 🤔 And maybe they will keep being friends by defeating a Moon Alien Clan that do Celestial Rakugo at the end of the series
え、まさかヒカルの中に落語エネルギーでできた超デカい雪狐モンスターがいるってこと!?🤔 しかも最終回で天界落語やってる月のエイリアン族を倒して、ずっと友達でいるって展開になるのかな笑 やばくねそれ!?ギャル
ButterIsMyLifeblood
I can only hope the anime adapts far enough to see Akane’s Madara
アニメがどこまで進むかわからないけど、あかねの「斑」はぜひ見たいな。普通くん
thisisdropd
原文
Been looking forward to this moment! When two formidable rivals entered stage; Karashi the twice-defending champion and Hikaru the esteemed voice actress. I see Julius and Emilia had been reverse isekai'd and found themselves in the world of Rakugo. Love the bait when it seemed that Kaisei's locked his eyes on Hikaru when it turned out he's been focused on Akane instead. That's the moment when everyone recognised that Akane's serious business. Talking fast isn't the key to Jugemu. That's what Akane said, but her performance boiled down to speaking rapidly while still clearly enunciating the words. Having said that, looks like she's still got something up her sleeves – and Kaisei's well aware of that. We should expect a different take on Jugemu in the final round. Before that, however, I'm also excited to see Karashi and Hikaru's performances. Hikaru calling Akane cute and pretty with a straight face. I'd expect the playboy Karashi to make those remarks instead of her. Felt bad Akane, being cursed with playboys. First it was Kaisei, then Maikeru, and now Karashi.
待ちに待ったこの瞬間が来たンゴ!二連覇中のKarashiと声優のHikaruって強敵が揃い踏みや。JuliusとEmiliaが逆異世界転生して落語の世界に来たみたいやんwww KaiseiがHikaru見てると思ったらまさかのAkaneに照準合わせてて草。そこで「こいつ本気やな」って全員が認識したわ。Jugemuは早口が正解じゃないってAkane言うてたけど、結局はっきり発音しながら早口で演じ切ったやん。でもまだ何か隠してそうやし、Kaiseiもそれに気づいてる模様。決勝ではまた違うJugemuが見れそうやね。その前にKarashiとHikaruの演目も楽しみやわ。Hikaruが真顔でAkaneを可愛いって褒めてたの草。むしろ遊び人のKarashiが言いそうなセリフやん。Akaneは遊び人に呪われてるな…Kaisei、Maikeru、そしてKarashiって。2ちゃん
ModieOfTheEast
原文
I mean, the point is that Akane has to hold back in the prelims because if she revealed what she found, it wouldn't have an impact in the second round. Because she is doing the same story twice. Meaning she has to find two ways to tell the story while keeping it fresh. And since place 1 only means something during the finale, "just speaking really fast" is the correct way to go, because you still get to the top 8 while having another, more surprising way of reciting the story during your second attempt.
つまり、あかねが予選で手加減する必要があるのは、見つけたものを全部出しちゃうと2回戦でインパクトがなくなるからだよね。同じ話を2回やるわけだから、新鮮さを保ちながら2通りの語り方を見つけないといけない。それに1位は決勝でしか意味がないから、「ただ早口で話す」のが正解で、2回目にもっと驚きのある語り方を残しつつ、トップ8に入れるわけだ。普通くん
Frontier246
The first round was the gimmick, the second round must be where she actually delivers Jugemu in such a way that it actually turns into something meaningful and memorable enough to impress everybody.
やばくない!?1ラウンド目はただの仕掛けで、2ラウンド目で本当に寿限無を意味ある形で届けて、みんなを感動させるってことじゃん!まじでその展開アツすぎる!!ギャル
Frontier246
Hikaru has tried to spin herself as the female lead in her life AND in terms of her fame and now she has to do battle with the actual main character with all her natural main character energy.
ヒカルは自分を人生のヒロイン&売れっ子として演出しようとしてきたのに、今や本物の主人公(あかね)とその圧倒的オーラで戦わなきゃいけないの、エモすぎるッ!感情くん
doomrider7
There's a phenomenal write-up from years ago when the chapters dropped that I'll leave up in the source corner.
何年か前に原作が公開された時のめっちゃいい考察記事があるから、ソース欄に貼っておくね。普通くん
Jauretche
She's setting up a big performance for the second round. Like, I have mastered that baby version of Jugemu, now let me show you what I can actually do.
あの子、2回戦で大舞台ぶちかまそうとしてるやん。赤ちゃん版寿限無はもう完璧や、次はホンモノ見せたるわって感じやな。ワクワクすンゴwww2ちゃん
BosuW
原文
That's what Akane said, but her performance boiled down to speaking rapidly while still clearly enunciating the words. Having said that, looks like she's still got something up her sleeves – and Kaisei's well aware of that. We should expect a different take on Jugemu in the final round. I pretty much thought the same as Kasei: this was just a warm-up. The real big hitter has to be on the final round.
あかねはそう言ってたけど、彼女のパフォーマンスは結局、早口だけどはっきり発音するって感じだったな。でも、まだ秘策があるみたいだし、海星もそれに気づいてる。決勝では違う「寿限無」が来るはず。俺も海星と同じで、これはただのウォームアップだと思ったよ。本当の大技は決勝戦で決めるんだろうな。普通くん
FarCritical
"Kinda mad" lmao I get where reigning champ guy was coming from with his analogy but a talented musician actually going full rap god on a children's song would be pretty damn hype (if executed well) ngl.
「Kinda mad」って草www
王者の人の例えはわかるけど、本物のミュージシャンが子供向けソングで完全ラップゴッドモード突入したら普通にアガるやろ(ちゃんとやればな)ンゴwww2ちゃん
runevault
He clearly never watched Your Lie in April. Never hear Twinkle Twinkle Little Star the same after Kosei's performance.
確かに「四月は君の嘘」見てないな。公生のトゥインクル・トゥインクル・リトルスター聴いた後だと、あの曲がもう違うものにしか聴こえないんだよな…エモすぎるッ!感情くん
xDarKraDx
Same song for me, but after playing Dead Space.
まじわかる!私もデッドスペースやった後に同じ曲リピってたわ笑ギャル
Frontier246
Imagine drawing your teacher and capturing her on-point resting bitch-face lol.
先生のイラスト描いて、あの完璧な不機嫌顔を再現するの想像してみてよw普通くん
Datachost
Isn't that what the whole "Llama llama red pyjama" thing basically is? Also, bold words from a man who's showed up for the third year in a row to beat up on a bunch of amateurs instead of moving on
「ラマラマ赤いパジャマ」ってまさにそれじゃん?つーか毎年アマチュア連中ぶちのめしに来てるお前が言うなって話だわ。3年連続で居座ってステップアップしないとかマジで草。感情くん
doomrider7
It's still fair game for him and Hikaru since neither are formal Rakugoka, as in actually formally trained by a Shin'uchi.
確かに、彼とヒカルはどちらも正式な落語家じゃないからな。真打ちにちゃんと師事してるわけでもないし、まだまだこれからって感じだね。普通くん
Doomroar
Big frog in a small puddle type energy 😆
せやな、小さな池のデカいカエルって感じやなwww2ちゃん
eightcheesepizza
It's too bad Guriko probably never showed Iwa Akane's drawing of her.
グリコが岩あかねの絵を見せなかったのは残念だね。普通くん
RepulsiveRevenue8
Akane is truly the antithesis of Shonen protag, in a normal Shonen she's more suited to be the mc rival, a prodigy, second generation with family ties to the show theme, in training under a famous master. While Hikaru and Karashi really fit the Shonen mc part to a T.
草、マジであかねって完全に少年漫画主人公のアンチテーゼやん
普通の少年漫画ならむしろライバル枠やろ、天才で二世でテーマに家族が絡んでて有名な師匠の下で修行してるとか
一方でヒカルとカラシはガチで少年漫画主人公にピッタリすぎるわwww2ちゃん
pjepja
And Hikaru, an anime voice actress, realised it immediately lol.
なるほど、声優のヒカルがすぐに気づいたってわけか笑普通くん
doomrider7
People pointed this out immediately when the chapters dropped. I left a write-up in the spoiler corner about it.
せやな、チャプター出た瞬間にみんな気づいてたで。ワイもネタバレコーナーにまとめ書いたンゴwww2ちゃん
PencilgonGiveIt2Ya
MOM, WAKE UP! NEW AKANE-BANASHI JUST DROPPED! ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽╰༼=ಠਊಠ=༽╯
お母さん起きて!あかね噺の新話きたぞ!༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽╰༼=ಠਊಠ=༽╯普通くん
Doomroar
I actually did send my mom a link to the YT playlist since she loves theater, and this is in essence an anime about the arts
マジでやばくない!?私もお母さんにYouTubeのプレイリスト送ったんだけど、うちの母ちゃん舞台大好きでさ〜このアニメって本質的に芸術についての話じゃん!てか親子で楽しめるの最高すぎる笑ギャル
SYZekrom
God the way she kept speeding up was addicting to hear. The clench in my body as she accepts a bottle to drink from her competitor, hoping its not that kinda world. DIALECT ALERT DIALECT ALERT, PEAK
彼女がどんどん速くなっていく感じ、聞いてて癖になるわ。競争相手から水差しを受け取る時の体の強張り方、そういう世界じゃないといいなって思っちゃった。方言キター!最高だわ。普通くん
doomrider7
I left a write-up about them from YEARS ago when the chapters first dropped. Found it as I was reading chapter threads and it's some amazing observations.
わかる!何年も前の章が初めて出た頃に書いた考察を見つけたんだよね。今読み返してもマジでエモすぎる観察だったわッ!感情くん
TsukumoYurika
Rakugo Q&A desk I forgot some questions from last week so please shoot them to me again!
落語Q&Aデスク、先週聞きそびれた質問があったからまた送ってくれ!普通くん
Norix596
原文
I’m hoping you can answer a question I’ve been super curious about and can’t think of any way to find out since I don’t speak Japanese The manga supervisor did a few months of training the main VAs and they’ve released videos of some of the training sessions. What is this story this video clip starts on? Across all the videos I’ve seen the master teaching all of them and the VAs performing this bit where they slowly point horizontally and drag out one syllable super long. I don’t recognize that story from anything in the manga or from Showa Genraku. I can only surmise it’s either a good teaching basic or a personal specialty of the consultant. Can you identify what story that’s from?
ああ、それな!ワイもめっちゃ気になってたンゴwww
多分やけど、あれは落語の基本ネタ「寿限無(じゅげむ)」の一部やと思うで。
ゆっくり指差しながら伸ばすのは、「寿限無」の長い名前を誇張して語る典型的な練習法や。
監修の人が選んだ基礎中の基礎って感じやな。2ちゃん
TsukumoYurika
It's Tsuru !
あ、鶴だ!普通くん
Norix596
Thank you!!!! I was at the NYC premiere event where they showed some of the training clips and it’s been driving me nuts ever since then! EDIT - ah ok, thanks this is helpful context - so this story is short and one of the first that rakugoka learn. That must be why they were all taught it even though they don't have to perform it in the anime.
ありがとナス!!!NYCプレミアで研修の一部見せてもらったンゴ、それ以来ずっと気になってたんやwww
編集: なるほど、つまりこの落語は短くて修行僧が最初に覚えるやつなんか。アニメでは演じなくても全員が教わってる理由がわかったわ。2ちゃん
mmcjawa_reborn
Is there much crossover between voice acting and Rakugo? In hindsight it kind of makes sense there would be given the skillsets involved.
声優と落語って結構クロスオーバーあるのかな?考えてみると必要なスキル的に納得できる気がするね。普通くん
TsukumoYurika
原文
I dare to say that hanashika directly helped build the seiyuu industry (as they were frequent choices for casting in Japan's older radio dramas.) The most notable recent case of a hanashika having a decent seiyuu career is probably Hayashiya Kobuhei (probably his most notable role is Kotaro in Touch,) but ever since becoming Hayashiya Shozo IX, he hasn't really been that active in that field anymore 😢
ワイが言うのもなんやけど、噺家って直接声優業界の基礎を作った存在やと思うわ(昔の日本のラジオドラマでよくキャスティングされてたしな)。最近で噺家が声優としてそこそこ成功した例で言うたら、林家こぶ平(多分一番有名な役はタッチの小太郎)やろな。でも九代目林家正蔵になってからは、その分野であんま活動しとらんのや😢2ちゃん
Norix596
Is that the same Hayashiya school that the manga’s supervisor Keiki/Kikuhiko Hayashiya is from? If so that would probably make sense if someone else from the school had done anime industry work notably
あの林家って、漫画監修の林家けいき(菊彦)さんが所属してる同じ流派のことだよね?もしそうなら、同じ流派の人がアニメ業界で目立った仕事をしてたって話も納得できるな。普通くん
TsukumoYurika
Different one actually, but both are part of Rakugo Kyokai (Rakkyo.) IRL, there are hanashika with same clan name (teigo) but coming from a completely different lineage (my oshi, Ryutei Ichiba, traces his artistic lineage differently from, say, Ryutei Kochiraku)
ちゃうちゃう、別のやつやけど両方とも落語協会(らっきょ)の一員やで。現実にも同じ亭号(ていご)の落語家おるけど、芸系はガチで別物なんや(ワイの推し、柳亭市馬は柳亭小調とは違う系譜たどっとるンゴ)2ちゃん
mekerpan
原文
A possible intervening step were the benshi of the "silent movie" era -- which never really existed in Japan because pre-talkie movies never relied solely on intertitles, but rather always had a narrator (and often some live musicians) who acted out all the dialogue as well as providing running commentary. Basically rakugo style performances as a co-equal (or even more important) part of the pre-talkie movbie experience.
ああ、なるほどね。日本の無声映画時代には弁士がいて、字幕だけじゃなくて全部のセリフを実演しながら解説もしてたんだ。要は落語スタイルのパフォーマンスが映画体験の重要な一部だったってことか。確かに「あかね噺」の世界観とも通じる話だね。普通くん
kixiron
Besides Jugemu , what other rakugo stories are considered too basic/fundamental/too well-known? (Is Shinigami one of them, since it is also well-known, and it's likely to be European in origin (listed under ATU-332)?)
「Jugemu以外で、めっちゃ基本・有名な落語って他に何があるんや?死神も有名やし、元ネタヨーロッパっぽいけど(ATU-332)これも基本に入るンゴか?」2ちゃん
TsukumoYurika
There was this one poll on twitter that basically asked people about knowing specific stories and the top 5 for most well known were Manju Kowai/Scared of Manju, Tokisoba/Time Noodles, Jugemu, Shibahama and Shinigami. (That said, I found out about Shinigami long before Godfather Death even tho I'm European)
Twitterで特定の噺の知名度を聞くアンケートがあって、上位5つは「まんじゅうこわい」「時そば」「寿限無」「芝浜」「死神」だったんだよね(ちなみに俺は欧州出身だけど『死神』は『Godfather Death』よりずっと前に知ってたわ)。普通くん
Doomroar
How hard is Jugemu actually if it is an apprentice story? and is what Akane did this episode actually special or not?
え、Jugemuって見習いの話なら実際どんだけ難しいんだよ!? そして今回あかねがやったこと、マジですごいの?それとも普通なの?気になりすぎるッ!感情くん
TsukumoYurika
The whole part of the charm in Jugemu is that it features what essentially is a tongue twister recited at high speed, so obviously you don't want to stumble on it or to go too slow with it. So basically, learning the story is extra simple - mastering it, OTOH, is a whole different story.
寿限無の魅力って、高速で早口言葉を言うところにあるんだよね。だから当然、詰まったり遅くなったりしちゃダメなわけ。つまり、物語を覚えるのは超簡単だけど、それを完璧にできるかはまた別の話ってことだね。普通くん
TsukumoYurika
Also for an addenum, the very fact she is appearing at a competition with such a relatively simple story that has fairly little room to showcase own flair (I can't say elaborate without bringing up source material talk tho) is a very impressive feat.
せやな、あれだけシンプルな話で自分の個性を出す余地が少ない(ネタバレになるから詳しく言えんけど)のに、あの場に出てきたってのがガチですごいやん。草2ちゃん
ParasaurolophusZ
Here's what I was wondering last week: I wonder if it's normal to get the same feeling from some of these stories as I do from Abbott and Costello, especially with that deadpan pun ending. I sort of get the feeling that something like Who's On First would fit right in with the neverending wordplay (aside from the translation difficulty). Are there similar stories in rakugo?
先週から考えてたんだけど、こういう話の中にはアボット&コステロと同じような感覚を覚えるものがあるんだよね。特にあのボケ倒しのオチが。『Who's On First』みたいなのが、翻訳の難しさは別として、終わらない言葉遊びにピッタリはまる気がするんだ。落語にも似たような話ってあるのかな?普通くん
TsukumoYurika
There definitely is a similar rakugo story (at least one involving manzai) but the title is escaping me rn 😢
確かに似たような落語の話(少なくとも漫才が絡むやつ)はあるんだよな…でもタイトルが思い出せなくて泣ける😢感情くん
ButterIsMyLifeblood
Didn’t notice until this episode but did Kaisei always have a slight lisp? Bummer they don’t have doubled subs for this episode since you can actually hear Akane’s rakugo this time during the peanut gallery commentary. Love seeing Iwa sensei
草、確かに聞いてみたらカイセイちょっと舌足らずやんwww
でも今回はあかねの落語が観客の声と被らずに聞こえたのはガチで良かったわ
岩先生の登場シーンも最高やったし、次回が待ち遠しいンゴ2ちゃん
generictypo
I'm hoping someday they'll release some specials where we get to see full performances of each characters.
いつか各キャラのフルパフォーマンスが見られるような特別編が出てほしいな普通くん
tinkerterror
I would pay good good money for an ova with them !!
マジで!?このキャラたちでOVA出たら即金で買うんだけど!!やばくね!?ギャル
ali94127
Feel like them releasing the full versions of the seiyuu doing the rakugo is possible.
せやな、声優が落語やってる完全版をリリースする可能性はあるやろなwww2ちゃん
Ancient_Breakfast_48
That would be fun, but unlikely.
それは楽しそうだけど、現実的じゃないよね。普通くん
ModieOfTheEast
原文
I guess that answers the question I had last week which is how Akane wanted to make the same story interesting two times in a row. By keeping her ace in hand and only playing the queen to get through the preliminaries. The super fast talking was fun though and in the end, the right decision because it is more than enough to get into the Top 8. They made sure to not show us the other two big shots this week, so I assume we will see them in episode 8 (especially Hikaru and her fixation on Akane) and I am looking forward to see what Akane changed in order to make Jugemu work. And if it is a change that doesn't annoy the big boss once again. I find it kind of funny that Akane could have given Guriko an actual picture of her teacher but decided to draw one. It did look like her tbh. If Rakugo would allow self drawn images, Akane could go into completely new territory.
先週の疑問が解決したな。あかねが同じネタを2連続で面白くする方法についてだが、切り札を温存し、予選突破にはクイーン(中程度の技)だけを使う戦略だった。超高速のまくらは確かに面白かったし、トップ8入りするには十分すぎるという判断は正解だった。今週は他の2人の大物(特にひかるのあかねへの執着)を見せなかったのは、8話で描かれる伏線だろう。寿限無を成立させるためにあかねが何を変えたのか、そしてその変更が大御所を再び怒らせないか注目したい。あかねがぐりこに師匠の実写写真ではなく手描きイラストを渡したのは興味深い。実際似てたしな。もし落語で自作イラストが許されるなら、あかねは全く新しい境地を開拓できるかもしれない。考察くん
Frontier246
I find it kind of funny that Akane could have given Guriko an actual picture of her teacher but decided to draw one. It did look like her tbh. If Rakugo would allow self drawn images, Akane could go into completely new territory. It adds to the strong visual sense that she tries to convey through her Rakugo performances.
確かにあかねが師匠の写真を渡せたのにわざわざ絵を描いたの面白いな。でも実際似てたよね。落語で自作の絵が認められるなら、あかねは全く新しい領域に進めるかも。彼女の落語パフォーマンスで伝えようとしてる強い視覚的感覚をさらに強調してると思う。普通くん
Shimmering-Sky
原文
Huh… This is just black-haired Shinji Hirako. Ooh, a voice actress doing rakugo. That sounds neat. Ah, nice that Akane’s helping out one of her opponents. That’s how she greets Kaisei? That she does, yeah. Guriko “sore demo”, sweet. She told her teacher that talking fast wasn’t the key to Jugemu Jugemu , so… hm. Is she doing this for the prelims and going to mix it up for the main tournament? Ah, fun, Hikaru thinks of Akane as a rival now. Damn, that’s kind of a shame… Ganbare, Akane!
ん?これ黒髪の平子真子やん。あ、声優が落語やるのか。それは面白そうやな。
あかねが対戦相手を助けてるのいいな。カイセイへの挨拶ってあれか。確かにそうやな。
グリコの「それでも」いいね。
「寿限無」は早口が全てじゃないって師匠に言われてたしな…予選はこれで本番は別のネタ混ぜてくるんか?
ヒカルがライバル視してるの草。でもちょっと惜しいな…がんばれあかね!2ちゃん
Kirosh2
If you think about it, Hikaru is the shonen protagonist with the special talent in voice acting, with the colorful hair, finding her rival, the genius with the dark backstory, during the first event she's in.
確かに考えてみると、ヒカルは声優業界の主人公ポジションだよね。カラフルな髪に特別な才能持ちで、初めての大会で因縁のライバル(過去が重そうな天才)と出会うっていう、王道少年漫画展開じゃん。普通くん
doomrider7
There was a PHENOMENAL write-up when the pertinent chapters dropped from years ago pointing this out. Akane is basically coming off as the priviledged uppity connected legacy rival on accident to Hikaru.
数年前に該当話数が出た時の考察記事が凄まじく良かったんだよな。あかねは意図せずヒカルにとっての「特権階級で鼻持ちならないコネ入りライバル」に見えてしまう構造になってる、という指摘があった。制作陣の意図が透けて見える伏線とキャラ配置だと思われる。考察くん
chum-guzzling-shark
do you know if there are spoilers in there?
お前、それネタバレ入ってるか知ってる?2ちゃん
ButterIsMyLifeblood
No spoilers this is the manga discussion for chapter 18 which this episode of the anime just covered.
ネタバレなしで、このアニメのエピソードがちょうどカバーした第18話の漫画の議論だね。普通くん
Se7en_Sinner
Anime voice acting does share its foundational roots with rakugo.
マジで声優の仕事って、落語と根本的に繋がってるんだよね!めっちゃわかるわ~ギャル
Frontier246
Which also just makes it full circle when we have a cast made up of seiyuu who went through rakugo training to be able to do this show.
声優陣が実際に落語の訓練を受けてこの作品に臨んでるってのは、まさに円環が完結した感じだね。普通くん
hibikir_40k
原文
She has to do two performances in a row to the same story, which is something nobody else has to do. A Jugemu that is both comedic and an edo-period drama bout selfisnhess, and giving your child too much of a good thing is just not what you throw in the prelims. You hold off that kind of thing to perform it in front of the guy who destroyed your father's career, and didn't even bother to explain why.
彼女は同じ演目を連続で2回披露しなければならない。これは他の誰も課せられていない条件だ。寿限無をコミカルに演じつつ、江戸時代劇として自己中心性や子どもに甘やかしすぎることの弊害を描く、そんな高度なネタを予選でやるのは普通じゃない。むしろ、父親のキャリアを潰した上に理由すら説明しなかった相手の前で披露するために温存すべきものだったという考察ができる。考察くん
ULTRAFORCE
The Akane-Konbashi segment is so cute and fun, also neat and informative.
あかね噺の部分、めっちゃ可愛くて楽しいね。それに綺麗で勉強にもなるわ。普通くん
Roboglenn
Indeed.
せやな。2ちゃん
AceSoldia
Wild that girl is making Akane her personal enemy number one, poor Akane barely knows who you are lady
あの子がアカネを個人的な敵No.1に設定してるのヤバすぎるッ!可哀想なアカネは相手のことほとんど知らないのに…感情くん
runevault
tbf there are only 2 people who likely have the skill/talent/etc to compete with her, and Akane is younger which makes losing to her even worse when you're still young.
確かに彼女と競えるスキルや才能があるのは2人くらいだよね。しかもあかねの方が年下だから、若いうちに負けるのはもっとキツいな。普通くん
Jacob-C
原文
Honestly, she should be happy that she made it to the final. She can't expect to win against people who only do rakugo when she's from another industry. Sure, it's an amateur tournament, but she's up against people like Akane, who is training under a Shin'uchi, and Karashi, who has won the tournament two times in a row. I commend her spirit, but no one would be surprised when the pro padel player doesn't win the tennis tournament. However, we never got to see her perform, maybe she really has talent for rakugo.
マジで決勝まで行けただけでも十分やろ。他の業界から来た奴が落語一本の連中に勝てるわけないやん。確かに素人大会やけど、相手は真打の弟子のあかねとか2連覇中の辛子とかやぞ。気合いは認めるけど、プロのパデル選手がテニスの大会で勝てへんのと同じや。ただ、彼女の高座見てないから、もしかしたらマジで落語の才能あるかもしれへんな。2ちゃん
runevault
If she were reasonable yes she should be expecting to come in 3rd since she should beat all the true amateurs and lose to the two who've seriously dedicated themselves to this specific craft. But she's also clearly really good at her own craft and that tends to come with a lot of pride that is probably blinding her.
確かに理屈で言えば3位は妥当だよな。素人は倒せるけど、本気でやってる二人には負けるって構図だし。でも彼女自身の技術がめちゃくちゃ高いから、そのプライドが判断を曇らせてるんだろうな。普通くん
Jacob-C
Yeah, that’s true. She also said that she wanted to win so that it would boost her reputation in the entertainment industry. She wants the reward but I don’t think she can get more than third place. Her clout won’t really matter either, considering who the main judge is. I can’t imagine that he cares about anime and voice actors. It would be funny if he did though.
それな。ワイもそう思うわ。彼女、芸能界で名を上げるために勝ちたいって言ってたやん。報酬は欲しいけど、せいぜい3位が関の山やろ。メイン審査員が誰か考えたら、彼女の影響力なんて意味ないしな。あの人がアニメや声優に興味あるとは思えへんわ。でももし興味あったら草生えるけどなwww2ちゃん
runevault
I think he'll pick who he actually believes is the best, but keep in mind part of his motivation for getting involved is to help get people excited about the next generation of Rakugo. Hooking a popular young VA into the scene could be seen as a way to help bolster the artform with a younger crowd.
彼は本当に一番だと思う人を選ぶと思うけど、関わる動機の一つは次の世代の落語を盛り上げることだってのも忘れちゃいけないよね。人気の若手声優を引き込めば、若い層にもっと芸を広めるきっかけになるって見方もできるし。普通くん
Jacob-C
Sure, but if her performance is clearly worse than the other two’s, and he picks her just to reach a younger crowd, I don’t think that will sit well other rakugokas who are very principled about their craft. That being said, he hasn’t cared about causing a commotion in the scene previously.
確かに、もし彼女のパフォーマンスが他の2人より明らかに劣っているのに、若い層を取り込むためだけに彼女を選んだとしたら、落語に誇りを持つ他の落語家たちの気持ちは穏やかじゃないだろうな。ただ、彼はこれまでも業界で波風を立てるのを厭わなかったから、今回もそのスタンスを貫く可能性が高い。つまり、この選択には作者の「伝統と革新の対立」を描く意図が感じられるんだよな。考察くん
runevault
原文
Yup. Like I said I think he'll pick the best performance by the traditions of Rakugo. Just while I doubt he personally gives a shit about anime, one of his stated goals could be served by picking her if she's at least close. What's interesting is I assume Akane loses here because she needs to set up her next training arc through some sort of failure. She might get it by winning and then Issho tells her something she can use, but that doesn't feel like how a sports anime normally goes and this is clearly taking its cues from that genre.
せやな。ワイも言うたけど、あいつは落語の伝統に則ったベストパフォーマンス選ぶと思うわ。本人はアニメなんてどうでもよさそうやけど、彼の掲げた目標の一つを達成するためには、あかねが少なくとも互角なら選ぶ可能性あるやろ。面白いのは、ここであかねが負けると思うんや。なんせ次の修行編への布石として、何らかの挫折が必要やからな。勝った後に一招教えてもらう展開もありえるけど、スポ根アニメの定石からは外れるし、明らかにこの作品はそのジャンルからヒント取ってるしな。2ちゃん
Jacob-C
原文
Either she loses here like you said, or she wins and it causes her to get complacent. That complacency has consequences down the line which in turn triggers the aforementioned training arc. If she loses, I hope it’s Karashi that beats her. It wouldn’t sit right with me if Akane loses to Hikaru for the reasons I mentioned earlier. Because of how frustrating she finds Akane, I think a win would get to her head and she would genuinely start thinking that she’s better than Akane at Rakugo.
彼女がここで負けるか、もしくは勝って慢心するかだね。その慢心が後々影響して、さっき言った修行編に繋がるんだと思う。負けるならからしにやられてほしいな。あかねがひかるに負けるのは納得いかないんだよ、前に言った理由で。ひかるはあかねにすごくイライラしてるから、勝ったら調子に乗って自分があかねより落語が上手いって本気で思いそう。普通くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
Good strong start for Akane. She’s drawn some attention now and generated a bit of buzz. There’s some stiff competition ahead and she might have painted a target on herself. She’s got a lot riding on this. Failure’s not really an option for her if she wants to confront the old man…
あかねのスタート、ガチで良かったな。結構注目集めて話題にもなってるし。でもこれから強敵揃いやし、自分で標的にされそうなことしちゃった感あるンゴねェ…。全て賭けてるだけに、あのジジイと対決するなら失敗は許されへんやろな。2ちゃん
Frontier246
Failure’s not really an option for her if she wants to confront the old man… I do love how Issho Arakawa's promo shot for this competition is the most "get off my lawn you pieces of trash" picture they could take of him.
あの老人に立ち向かおうと思ったら、彼女にとって失敗は許されない選択肢だよね…あと、今回の大会での荒川一生のプロモーション写真、最高に「俺の庭から出ていけクソガキども」って感じの写真を使ってるのが好き。普通くん
BuckeyeBentley
He has resting shonen villain face
確かに!あいつ、常に少年漫画の悪役みたいな顔してるんだよなッ!感情くん
NanDemoKnaives
原文
The way the ginger reporter was getting excited talking about rakugo was amusing, but it's funny how his colleague got more excited when Kouragi appeared. I didn't miss her blushing, even though she looks put off by him, she probably finds his passion one of his attractive attributes. Akane's speed with that tongue twister was impressive, I wonder how many takes Nagase Anna had to do to get it done lol. That sounds like a pain to do. I like how Takahashi Rie is voicing Kouragi, she has this gentle and fragile icyness to her, but the switch up to her real personality is interesting. That fukuoka dialect lol. I hope Kouragi realizes Akane isn't who she thinks she is.
赤毛の記者が落語について興奮して話す様子は面白かったけど、同僚の方が古来儀が登場したときにさらにテンション上がってたのが笑える。彼女が古来儀に辟易してるように見えても、実は赤面してるのを見逃さなかった。彼女は古来儀の情熱を彼の魅力的な要素の一つと感じているのだろう。あかねの早口言葉のスピードは圧巻で、長瀬アンナが何テイク撮ったのか気になるな(笑)。あれは大変そうだ。高橋李依が古来儀の声を担当しているのが良い。彼女には優しくて繊細な冷たさがあるけど、本性に切り替わる瞬間が面白い。あの福岡弁もね。古来儀が、あかねが彼の思っているような人物じゃないと気づいてほしいものだ。考察くん
Gars0n
I wondered about the poor voice actress too! That's a scene that's easy to write, but a lot harder to do for real.
声優さん大変だったろうなって俺も思った!書くのは簡単だけど、実際にやるのはすごく難しいシーンだよね。普通くん
BaytaCosmico
原文
Akane and Kaisei play off each other so well. Want to see more of their rivalry. So Akane better win this tournament. Should be interesting to see how she changes things up for the finals. The voice actress character is interesting. Not quite an antagonist but something like one. Pity we didn't get to see her performance. Hope we do for the finals at least. Curious to see how a seiyuu would adapt to rakugo. Hah, that sounds a bit meta since the seiyuu in this show are all performing in a sense, but they're not actually on stage live.
あかねと魁成の掛け合いが本当に秀逸だな。両者のライバル関係をもっと見たいという点で、あかねには是非このトーナメントで勝ち上がってほしい。決勝でどう戦略を変えてくるのか、その辺の考察が楽しみ。声優役のキャラクターは興味深い立ち位置だよね。完全な敵役ではないけど、それに近い存在として機能している。彼女の高座を実際に見られなかったのは残念だが、少なくとも決勝では拝めることを期待したい。声優が落語にどう適応するかという点も気になる。……いや、よく考えたらこの作品の声優陣は全員何らかの形で演じているわけで、メタ構造になってるな。ただし実際の高座とはまた別物だが。考察くん
Frontier246
Hikaru is a nice contrast to Akane. She puts on this composed, professional, cool beauty front and hides her accent in contrast to Akane who barrels through everything with her true self. She's also much more traditional feminine by design compared to Akane who seemed to be the only woman competing in a men's kimono.
ひかるはあかねとはいい対比になってるよね。あかねが素の自分で突き進むのに対して、ひかるは冷静でプロっぽいクールビューティーを演じてて、訛りも隠してる。デザイン的にもかなり伝統的な女性像で、あかねが男物の着物で唯一戦ってたのとは対照的だな。普通くん
Frontier246
原文
Akane has found a new coach in Iwa-sensei! Someone to get hyped for her success AND help her do research to improve her Rakugo performance! It's finally time for the Karaku Cup! The koshien of the Rakugo world! And there's a strong press presence there to see all the up-and-coming young stars of the Rakugo world as they show off for the sake of gaining recognition from Issho Arakawa and prove they have what it takes. And there are plenty of people to watch out for: Karashi Nerimaya (Takuya Eguchi!), two-year Karaku Cup champion with the shifty beady-eyed eyes! Hikaru Koragi (Rie Takahashi!) a popular young seiyuu who made her name in a Magical Girl anime and who is drop dead gorgeous and has a winning smile! The eyes are definitely on them (but especially Hikaru). Hikaru looks amazing in that kimono that matches her hair and eyes, and it makes her quite the contrast to Akane in her mens' kimono...but imagine this tomboy who just helped you with your obi would be the ONLY person singled out by none other than Kaisei Arakawa before the competition. Someone she's willing to box if she has to! The eyes are now all on Akane! I really want to know if Anna Nagase was able to get all that Jugemu out in one take or if they had to use modulation to speed up her voice or if that was all her. Even so, it was a very impressive Jugemu telling by Akane. But despite that, Karashi doesn't think she can take this...yet Hikaru sees her as her biggest rival, especially when she realizes Akane has such main character energy. That Akane got to see her with her natural Fukuoka accent and what she's like when she's not putting on a classy, city girl, performance just makes it all the more personal. It's nice to see that Akane has people in her corner. Guriko, Koguma (even if he won't overtly show it), and Iwa-sensei who has basically pulled a whole character 180 from stoic cool beauty teacher to enthusiastic Rakugo enjoyer. Can Akane impress Kaisei? Can she impress the man BEHIND Kaisei? For now, with her resolve solidified, she faces the finals: as Issho Arakawa arrives with as much antagonist aura as possible. Akane-Kobanashi! It's nice of Akane to teach Hikaru how to fold kimono, though ensuring it's a teachable moment by making her do it herself did NOT endear her to Hikaru in the end.
あかねが岩先生という新たな指南役を得たのは興味深い。彼女の成功を応援しつつ、落語のパフォーマンス向上のための調査を手伝う存在というのは、まさに理想的な師弟関係と言える。いよいよカラク杯、落語界の甲子園が開幕だ。注目すべきは、新進気鋭の若手たちが一升あら川からの認知を得るために己の実力を証明する場であること。特に警戒すべきは、二年連続カラク杯王者の練磨屋辛子(江口拓也!)と、魔法少女アニメで名を馳せた美貌の声優・小椋ヒカル(高橋李依!)だろう。ヒカルの着物が髪や瞳の色と調和しているのが印象的で、男物の着物を着るあかねとの対比が際立つ。しかし、そんなあかねが帯を直してあげた場面から、彼女だけが紅生あら川から直々に注目される展開へと繋がる。あかねがもし必要なら殴り合いも辞さない覚悟を見せた瞬間、注目は一気に彼女へ集中する。永瀬アンナがあの寿限無を一発撮りで成功させたのか、音声加工を使ったのかは気になるが、それでもあかねの寿限無は圧巻だった。辛子はまだ彼女を脅威と見なしていないが、ヒカルはあかねの主人公オーラを感じ取り、最大のライバルと認識する。福岡訛りの自然体を見せたヒカルに対して、あかねがより個人的な感情を考察くん
JohnatanWills
原文
Ok so that guy is literally just Shinji from Bleach right? He's got the hair, the teeth and the attitude for it. Also we see part of Akane's plan. We knew she had to find some way to give two different performances with the same story and it appears her plan is to do a very polished but basic Jugemu for the first round and then reveal her actual modifications to the story in the final round. So we have next week to look forward to for the real twist she's figured out.
あのキャラって完全にBLEACHの平子じゃん?髪型も歯並びも雰囲気もそっくりだね。それにあかねの作戦の一端も見えたな。同じ話で2つの違う演目をやる方法を考えなきゃいけないってのは分かってたけど、まずは丁寧だけどベーシックな寿限無で1回戦を戦って、決勝で本当のアレンジを披露するって感じか。来週が本当の仕掛けを楽しみにする週になりそうだな。普通くん
runevault
I wonder if we'll get it next week. We are likely getting both of her rivals' tales since they skipped both of their performances this week. I would not be surprised if we get them plus some other stuff (or some other random member of the top 8) and save her for the week after to give it full center stage.
来週はどうなるだろうな。今週は2人のライバルの演目が飛ばされたから、来週でまとめてやる可能性が高い。彼女たちの演目に加えて、他に何か(トップ8の他のメンバーとか)を挟んで、彼女(あかね)の話はその次の週に温存して、完全に主役に据える展開も十分あり得るという考察ができる。考察くん
NightBard
I would expect they didn’t show the rivals simply because they don’t have them fleshed out enough to waste the time. Considering how much was packed in this episode, I feel like it’s plausible they could finish the competition in the next episode.
確かに、ライバルたちを出さなかったのは単にキャラが固まってないから時間の無駄になるって判断だろうね。今回の話結構詰め込んでたし、次回で大会終わる可能性はありそうだと思う。普通くん
runevault
If that were the case introducing the two would be pointless. I'll be shocked if next episode does more than have Akane getting on stage to start her performance. Honestly I'm wondering if this arc and its immediate aftermath is the rest of this cour, but having not read the source material I do not know anything.
せやな、もしそうやったら2人を紹介する意味なくなるやろ。次回、あかねがステージ上がって演芸始めるだけやったらワイびっくりやわ。正直このアークとその直後で今期の残り全部やるんか気になるけど、原作読んでないから何もわからんンゴwww2ちゃん
NightBard
原文
The whole show thus far has introduced characters to wrap up much of their appearances quick. The dad had one episode. It was so packed, and then he’s gone off to work. We got the other apprentices in training and most of them just left. Even the main Master, only glimpses. Then they did the whole school thing, poof, down to a teacher that handles career guidance. We lost her friend that encouraged the teacher to check out Akane though the teacher was blended with two of the others. Not to read too much into the after credits bonus, but they kind of hint that a friendship could come between Akane and the voice actress. None of this is a complaint on the story telling, just noting how fast it’s moved with very little time wasted anywhere. It’s kind of refreshing.
今のところこの作品は、キャラを紹介してもすぐに片付けてる感じだよね。父親は1話だけ出てきて、すごく詰め込まれたけどすぐ仕事に行っちゃった。他の見習いもほとんど去っていった。師匠もちらっとしか出てこない。学校編もあっという間に終わって、進路指導の先生だけ残った感じ。あかねを勧めた友達も消えたし、先生は他の2人と混ざってたけど。エンドロール後の特典を深読みしすぎたくないけど、あかねと声優の間に友情が芽生えるかもって示唆してる気がする。これはストーリーへの不満じゃなくて、無駄がなくて展開がすごく速いなって思っただけ。むしろ新鮮だね。普通くん
Panda_Cavalry
I distinctly remember fangirling waaaaaay too much when Rieri was first announced as Hikaru's VA way back when, and I'm only slightly ashamed to admit that the fangirling resumed this episode. (kyaaaaaaaaah I love this show's casting aaaaaaaaaaaa)
ワイ、Rieriがヒカルの声優って発表された時ガチで発狂したんやけど、今回の話でまた同じことやってもうたわ(kyaaaaaaaahこのアニメのキャストやばすぎやろ!)少し恥ずかしいけどなwww2ちゃん
ali94127
Don’t worry. The people in-universe also fangirl to Rieri.
大丈夫だよ。作中世界の人たちもRieriにキャーキャー言ってるからね。普通くん
Guaymaster
Tbh when I first read the manga I imagined HanaKana, but Rieri I think actually fits more now.
まじで最初に漫画読んだ時は花菜ちゃんを想像してたんだけど、今思うとりえり(釘宮理恵)の方が合ってる気がする!やばくね!?ギャル
generictypo
原文
So many plot stuff happening in this episode, yet they're saving more stuff for the next episode. It makes sense that they save the performance of the two rivals for next week. And definitely excited to see Akane's final form Jugemu. Carnation pink man is back. somehow, this relationship is developing like Gon X Hisoka, but less creepy and weird. Worrying about the pacing a bit. Feels like a lot of the plot is happening is a few episode. But since it's been greenlit for 24 episodes, I guess it'll be fine. Next week's episode is gonna be so hype!
このエピソードいろいろ展開あったけど、まだ次回に取ってあるものもあるんだな。ライバル同士のパフォーマンスを来週に回すのは納得。あかねの最終形態・寿限無、楽しみすぎる。カーネーションピンクの男も帰ってきたし。この関係性、ゴン×ヒソカっぽいけど、もっと気持ち悪くなくて変な感じだな。ペース配分がちょっと心配。ここ数話で詰め込みすぎな気もする。でも24話確定してるなら大丈夫かな。来週のエピソード、めっちゃアツそう!普通くん
gekkenhuisje
Didn’t know this was going to be 24 episodes! Hyped to have learned about this, though I’m kind of surprised—this isn’t my the sort of show that usually gets 24 episodes right away. Is this the power of Shounen Jump?
24話もあるんか!知らんかったわwww
でも知ってテンション上がったンゴ!ただ、こういう系統のアニメが最初から24話って珍しくね?やっぱジャンプの力ってすげぇわ2ちゃん
doomrider7
Hopefully since if it is, the most logical end point will be some magnum opus stuff.
もしそうなら、最も論理的な終着点は最高傑作クラスのものになるはずだよね。普通くん
generictypo
It's gonna be a split cour. So they will air the first 12, then take a break, from what I've read on it.
分割クールやん。最初の12話放送したら一旦休憩入るらしいで。ワイが読んだ限りやけどな。2ちゃん
runevault
Hm the dub is starting with the first 2 episodes up on Netflix. Part of me is curious but I dunno. Maybe I'll wait until a few more episodes are out and then rewatch the beginning to se how the dub holds up.
Netflixで吹き替え版の最初の2話が配信開始されたんだな。ちょっと気になるけどどうだろう。もう何話か出てから最初から見直して、吹き替えの出来を確かめてみようかな。普通くん
SLE-6
This seems like it would be so hard to dub well. I'm curious now about this as well
これ吹き替え超難しそうやなwww ワイも気になってきたンゴ2ちゃん
doomrider7
The translations from the official manga are solid enough that they can use them verbatim and be set.
公式の漫画翻訳めっちゃしっかりしてるから、そのまま使って全然問題ないじゃん!ギャル
runevault
原文
The concern I have at least is the actual voice work. The Japanese VAs that are doing Rakugo characters spent I believe 6 months going through the training actual Rakugo go through to prepare for their parts. But Netflix only bought the rights to stream it with dub 2 months ago, so the English voice cast did not get the same chance. Doesn't mean they can't still kill it but puts them at a major disadvantage.
ワイが気になるのは声優の演技やねん。日本の落語キャラ役の声優は、本物の落語家と同じ訓練を半年も受けて役作りしたらしい。でもNetflixが吹き替え配信権を取ったのってたった2ヶ月前やから、英語版声優には同じチャンスがなかったんや。別に彼らが上手くないとは言わんけど、ガチでハンデ背負ってるやろな…2ちゃん
doomrider7
Ahhhh...That's a really good point.
あー…確かにそれすごくいい指摘だね。普通くん
runevault
I really, really hope the dub is good. I have friends who don't do subtitles and are story nerds, so if the dub holds up this show should be right up their alley.
マジで吹き替え版が良いのを願うッ!!字幕無理な友達がいるんだけど、その子たち超ストーリーオタクなんだよな…だから吹き替えがちゃんとしてたら絶対ハマるはず!感情くん
CrimsonGear80
seemed pretty good to me
ワイ的には普通に面白かったンゴwww2ちゃん
runevault
Good to hear. I'll probably give it a week or two for more episodes to pile up but I'll def give it a shot. Appreciate you reporting back after checking it out.
マジでいいじゃん!あと1〜2週間くらい待ってエピソード溜まったら観てみるわ。教えてくれてありがと!ギャル
NightBard
I watched them both and i think it’s a series I think is worth doing both sub and dub. Which i feel that about SPY X FAMILY as well as both voice casts are great and lend something unique in their presentation.
両方見たんだけど、この作品は字幕版と吹替版の両方を見る価値があると思う。SPY×FAMILYも同じで、どちらの声優陣も素晴らしくて、それぞれ独特の魅力を出してるよね。普通くん
tapdancinghellspawn
原文
I've watched a lot of anime where the anticipation for the next episode is high because of an epic battle with swords or fists or magic, but I've never felt this anxious for the next episode as I do now. She delivered an awesome Jugume this episode so I'm going crazy just imagining how she is going to top that performance. I have to admit that her taking what most Rakugo see as a warm up exercise and elevating it made me a bit tear up. Akane is glorious.
この作品、剣や拳や魔法のバトルで次回が待ちきれなくなるアニメは数多く観てきたが、ここまで次回に不安と期待が入り混じる感覚は初めてだ。今回の彼女の「寿限無」は圧巻だったから、あのパフォーマンスをどうやって超えるのか想像するだけで頭がおかしくなりそうだ。多くの落語家が準備運動と見なす演目を、彼女が昇華させたシーンには正直少し涙が出た。あかね、本当に素晴らしい。考察くん
Worthyness
Sports anime does the same thing honestly. You get really invested in the sport or game and then when the episode cuts mid game, you just want to see what happens next week. Akane plays out like a sports anime. It's always fun to have the first tournament arc to show your talent off and generate new rivals.
スポーツアニメも正直同じだよね。試合にめっちゃのめり込んでる時に途中でエピソードが終わると、来週どうなるか気になって仕方なくなる。あかね噺もスポ根アニメみたいな展開だな。最初のトーナメント編で才能を見せつけて新しいライバルを生む展開はいつだって面白い。普通くん
tapdancinghellspawn
Sports anime is something I need to start checking out. I was never a fan of watching sports but if we get a peek into what the characters are thinking and feeling, it would be great fun. I think the last sport anime I watched was Birdie Wing, which I really enjoyed. Birdie Wing seemed like a sports with some romance.
スポーツアニメ、ちゃんと開拓すべきジャンルだと思ってるんよな。自分もスポーツ観戦は元々興味なかったんだけど、キャラの思考や感情に深くフォーカスしてる作品なら面白さが段違いだという考察ができる。最後に観たのは『Birdie Wing』で、あれはスポーツにロマンス要素が絶妙に絡んでて良かった。ああいう構造、制作陣の計算が感じられる。考察くん
Worthyness
Haikyu is my go to sports anime. It's about volleyball, which I didn't have any interest in, but it hits the spot for sports everything
ハイキューは俺の定番スポーツアニメだな。バレーボールには全然興味なかったんだけど、この作品はスポーツものとして最高にハマるんだよね普通くん
tapdancinghellspawn
I've heard good things about Haikyu. I've added it to my list
まじでハイキューいいって聞くじゃん!?私もリストに入れたよ〜ギャル
NightBard
I feel the same and thats after a very packed episode. It’s not like they gave us just a intro… the whole setup in one episode for the final round. A typical shonen would have this spread over a dozen episodes for the fight and 20 in training for it.
ワイも全く同じ感想や。あんな詰め込みまくったエピソードやのに、ただの導入だけってわけちゃうしな。一話で決勝ラウンドの準備全部やったんやで。普通の少年漫画やったら戦闘編だけで十数話、そのための修行編で20話ぐらい引っ張るやろ。草生えるわ。2ちゃん
Roboglenn
And we start things off today with a nice view of an owl. And here's the fan favorite Hikaru making her grand animated debut. Boxer Akane returns. Just without the outfit and gloves. Pity... But all she sent me was this terrible sketch. Well, it's better than any sketch I could've drawn... Akane, talking circles around the competition.
今日のスタートはいい感じのフクロウの景色から。そしてファン待望のヒカルがアニメで堂々デビューだね。ボクサーあかねも復活。ただ衣装とグローブは無しだけどな…残念…。でも送ってくれたのはこの酷いスケッチだけだったわ。まあ俺が描けるどんなスケッチよりマシだけど…あかね、相手を言葉で翻弄してるね。普通くん
tapdancinghellspawn
Akane has become one of my spirit goddesses. Her energy and drive is amazing to witness.
あかねがワイの精神的な女神になったわ。あのエネルギーと推進力、ガチで見ててやばいンゴwww2ちゃん
Shadow_Ass
Absolute respect for Akane's VA. That was insane
あかねの声優にまじでリスペクト!やばすぎたんだけど笑ギャル
eggplant_avenger
my ship hath arrived. they actually got a superstar seiyuu to play Hikaru too I’ve been so looking forward to hearing the interactions this arc and I love it. Keisei annoyed me in the manga but seeing him animated and voiced, I might be coming around on him?
俺の推しカップルが来たよ。しかもヒカル役に超大物声優を起用してるし、この編の掛け合いを聞くの本当に楽しみにしてたんだよね。めっちゃいいわ。原作では京星にイラついてたんだけど、アニメで動いて声付きで見たら、ちょっと好きになりかけてるかも?普通くん
HolyDragSwd2500
Julius and Emilia take on Rakugo in this universe Jugem in the preliminary round was a success Sensei becoming a fan 😍 I ship those two together
この世界観でジュリウスとエミリアが落語に挑戦してるのやばくない!?予選のジュゲムが大成功で師匠もファンになっちゃったじゃん😍 この二人めっちゃ推せるんだけど!ギャル
Bloodysushi11
All I could think about was Jugen Jugen Runny Diarrhea from Gintama
ギンタマの「呪言呪言ラニー下痢」思い出して笑い止まらなかったww感情くん
Bassaluna
can't have a tournament without some competition. really like the voices for hikaru and karashi, especially hikaru with the switch to the accent. and i see the budget must have increased for this one, in the end segment they aren't stick figures anymore lmao and of course akane reopens the kimono after showing how to fold it, girl is clueless
大会には競争相手が必要やしな。光るの声と辛子の声めっちゃええわ、特に光るの訛り切り替えが最高やった。んで、最後のパート見たら予算増えたんか?棒人間じゃなくなってて草。で、あかねは着物のたたみ方教えた後にまた開けとるし、あの子ほんまにポンコツやなwww2ちゃん
doomrider7
They seem to use the "Paper Theater" setup when the convos are about Rakugo or artisinal aspects and switch to animated when it's general stuff though I could be wrong.
あっそれな!ラクゴとか芸の話になると紙芝居みたいな演出になって、普通の会話はアニメーションになるんだよね〜たぶんそういう使い分けなんじゃない?笑 まあ違うかもだけど!ギャル
HuTaosTwinTails
Hope we get to hear Rie doing some rakugo.
リエの落語、絶対聞きたいッ!!!それだけで優勝すぎるだろ感情くん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
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すみません、あなたのコメントは削除されました。これはこのスレッドの一番上にある「原作情報コーナー」に属する内容です。現在放送中のアニメの議論スレでは、原作・スピンオフ・作者コメント・未アニメ化コンテンツの話題はそこに投稿してください。どんなに些細な原作比較でも該当します。あなたのコメントはネタバレ削除ではなく、原作情報コーナー外での議論が理由です。質問があればこのメッセージに返信するか、modmail、メタスレッドへ。ルールがわからなければこちらをご確認ください。普通くん
Ancient_Breakfast_48
Fair enough.
せやな、確かにそれも一理あるわ2ちゃん
FinancialYear475
can't wait for next week
来週まじ楽しみすぎじゃん!!ギャル
IceSmiley
原文
On today's episode of Oshi no Akane Banashi.... I really thought Hikaru spiked the drink she gave to Akane! Even if not with a hard drug, maybe something that bothers your throat or alcohol. I know some performers can still be amazing drunk, but that probably would have slowed her down a lot. I think she and the long haired rakugoka might have it in for her and do something to her underhanded. I do think this whole thing about Akane wanting to meet the Master to ask him about why he fired her father is really immature and not productive. She doesn't seem aware that many people in show business are just assholes who think people are beneath them and it's probably not going to be anything deeper than either he thinks her father sucked or he was just in a foul mood. Akane will probably win because that's how shows go and I think Hikaru understands something that the long haired man doesn't: Akane is marketable among young people. She's a pretty teen who looks like an idol and is really good at rakugo. I think the long haired man is intended to be considered average looking to unattractive so he may mistakenly think people will win this just on skill. BUT on the TV show, the Master made no bones about wanting to get more young people into rakugo and I can't think of a better way than to have someone good looking doing it that could be marketed as an idol. One thing I didn't like was how they had everyone talking over Akane during her performance talking really fast. I suspect though this was to cover it up that the voice actress was most likely sped up in production and/or wasn't getting the enunciation perfectly when Akane was speaking her fastest.
本日の『推しのあかね噺』……ヒカルがアカネに渡したドリンクに薬を仕込んだんじゃないかと本気で疑ったよ。ハードドラッグじゃなくても、喉に障るものやアルコールかもしれない。酔っても名演できる芸人もいるが、それならかなりペースを乱されたはず。長髪の落語家と組んでアカネに何か裏工作を仕掛けるつもりなんじゃないか。
ただ、アカネが師匠に父を破門した理由を問いただそうとする件は、正直未熟で非生産的に映る。芸能界には単に人を見下すクズがいるという認識が足りず、理由は「父親が下手だった」か「機嫌が悪かった」程度の浅いものだろう。
アカネが勝つ展開はお約束だが、ヒカルは長髪男と違って「アカネが若者にウケる」点を理解してる。アイドル級の容姿で落語が上手い十代の美少女。一方、長髪男は平均以下か不細工に描かれてるから、実力だけで勝負できると誤解してる。でもTV番組で師匠は「若者を落語に引き込みたい」と明言してた。見た目が良くてアイドル的に売り出せる人材ほど適任はいない。
気になったのは、アカネの高座中に周囲が早口で話し続ける演出。おそらく声優の早回し処理や、最速時の発音の不完全さを隠す意図だろう。考察くん
runevault
原文
Tournament arc time! And the other two finding out they had a third competitor the hard way was fun. Whoa they changed up small talk from the character art on sticks style of the first six episodes. I'm really going to like the Voice Actress I think. Less sold on the other guy so far, he seems a bit boring based on his introduction, but he didn't get as many chances to add wrinkles to his character so I'll give him a pass for now.
トーナメント編キターー!! 他の2人がまさか3人目の競争者いるって気づかずに痛い目見るの草生えたwww
最初6話の棒立ちキャラアートから小話の演出変わったやん。声優の子はガチで好きになりそうやわ。
もう一人の男は今んとこ微妙やな…導入だけ見ると退屈そうやけど、キャラの深み出す機会少なかったし今はスルーしとくンゴ2ちゃん
UserIsOptional
Ah, time to build a harem Akane
あかねがハーレム作るのか…それは無理すぎるッ!感情くん
BookNook_OFC
I love Akane-banashi!!
あかね噺、めっちゃ好き!!普通くん
warjoke
Jugemu Jugemu: ❌ Rap God by Eminem: ✅
え、まじで笑 ジュゲムジュゲムよりラップゴッドのほうが合ってるじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル
SLE-6
Karashi and Hikaru remind me of the 2 rivals in Your Lie in April, idk why
カラシとヒカルを見てると、なんでか四月は君の嘘のライバル2人思い出すんだよね普通くん
Doomroar
Damn that was crazy to hear Anna Nagase is a beast, one thing is reading other characters giving you their impressions, and another think is actually listening to the actual thing happening, what a perfect cast!
アンナ・ナガセガチでやばすぎやろwww
他のキャラの感想聞くのと実際の音声聞くのとでは全然ちゃうわ
完璧なキャスティングやん!草2ちゃん
CrimsonGear80
"ok so according to akane we need to be on the lookout for...albert wesker"
なるほど、あかね曰くアルバート・ウェスカーに要注意ってことか…普通くん
Ryboiii
The voice actress who did Akane must've lost her breath SO many times doing that Jugemu practice
あかね役の声優、あの寿限無の練習で何度も息切れしてそうやろwww2ちゃん
FLorianGran
NGL after all the buildup it's disappointing that Akane's performance was just as spliced up, narrated over and visually bland as the others. I vibe with most of this show but the actual rakugo has left me cold. Side note I feel like I've seen Nerimaya's character design in a bunch of anime.
正直言って、ここまで盛り上がったのにあかねの高座が他のと同じようにカットだらけでナレーション被せてビジュアルも地味でがっかりだわ。このアニメは大体好きだけど、実際の落語の部分は冷めてしまう。余談だけど練磨屋のキャラデザ、いろんなアニメで見た気がする。普通くん
NanDemoKnaives
We're going to be seeing the same story in the final, I'm sure that will have more focus being the final.
決勝でも同じ話をやるのか…でも決勝戦だからもっと深掘りされるだろうな。しんどいけど楽しみすぎるッ!感情くん
ohoni
It is the prelims, this wasn't the focus of the arc, and they skipped the other performances entirely. The finals are the big show.
予選だし、このアークの焦点じゃなかったから他のパフォーマンスは全部飛ばしたんだよね。本番は決勝戦だよ。普通くん
ClemFire
I've been liking the show, but so far the best performance I'd argue is still her dad in EP1
草、確かにあかねの父ちゃんのEP1の演技が一番やったわwww
ワイも今んとこあかね噺好きやけど、あの回だけは別格やったンゴ2ちゃん
Grazalia
原文
Damn another long hair dude like yoshitsune. Been seeing a lot of this archetype lately in all anime. I wonder why? These characters always give me the most mod squad 80s British vibes for some reason. ah So that's the Hikaru everyone's so enamored with, I can see why lol. Akane with the defensive stance 😂 her drawing of Iwa sensei is hilarious, at first I thought it was a bancho or something. I watched some of the Rakugo practice her VA did in order to get good at this role and now seeing this intensive speed version of jugemu is crazy as hell. Her mid pose 😍 That "Saiyaku" was hilarious 😆
ああ、また義経みたいな長髪キャラか。最近どのアニメでもこのタイプよく見るな。なんでだろう?なんかこの手のキャラって妙に80年代イギリスのモッズ感あるんだよな。あ、これが皆が夢中になってるヒカルか、納得だわ笑。あかねの防御態勢😂 岩師匠の似顔絵めっちゃ笑った、最初番長かと思ったよ。彼女の声優がこの役のためにやってた落語の練習動画見たんだけど、この高速版寿限無はヤバすぎる。中間のポーズ😍 あの「災厄」はマジ笑えた😆普通くん
Xatu44
原文
Great to see the Karaku Cup kick off! Lord knows I can't say Jugemutc. with the speed and clarity that Akane does. It's great seeing everyone start to realize how big of a deal she is. Kaisei approaching Akane hidden by Hikaru was great. Hikaru's plenty of fun with her hidden passion and accent hidden under that pretty, demure facade. Her competitiveness over the ripe for buzz Akane is great. I can't wait to see her and Karashi's performances. Dude's extra smug for how he was fangirling over Hikaru lol.
カルク杯が始まって嬉しいよ!自分じゃあかねみたいに「寿限無寿限無」をあの速さで明確に言える気がしない。周りがようやく彼女のすごさに気づき始めてるのがいいね。光に隠れてあかねに近づく魁成は見事だった。光はあの清楚で控えめな外見の裏に隠れた情熱と訛りが魅力的で、話題性たっぷりのあかねへの競争心も面白い。彼女と唐獅子の高座が待ちきれない。あの男(唐獅子)、光に夢中になってたわりに妙にドヤってるのが笑えるな。考察くん
actuallyrndthoughts
Man they took no prisoners with Akane leg shots this ep, truly a blessing
今週のあかねの脚のカット、容赦なかったな。まじで神回。普通くん
mr_beanoz
原文
Finally caught up with the show's 6 episodes, gonna watch this new episode sometime. I wonder what kind of spin Akane takes on the Jugemu tale, as after a short browse on wikipedia, there are famous rakugoka that have made their own spin on Jugemu and make them their trademark performance. Post watch edit: Hot damn, she starts it slow but makes it faster and even faster as the story goes. That definitely takes some time to master.
やっと6話まで追いついたンゴ、新しいやつもそのうち観るわ。Jugemuの話をアカネがどうアレンジするのか気になるわ。ちょっとWiki見たけど、有名な落語家が独自の解釈加えて十八番にしてるらしいしな。観た後の追記: ガチで草、最初はゆっくり始めるけど話進むにつれてどんどん加速していくやん。あれはマスターするのに時間かかるわ。2ちゃん
Relampago1995
Akane is quite the villain with Hikaru and that evil laugh at the end 👌
あかね、ヒカル相手に完全に悪役ムーブ決めてて草。最後のあの邪悪な笑いエグすぎるッ!👌感情くん
Nickthenuker
原文
That's a lot of press coverage. So, the reigning champion. And other competition. And so here she is. Huh. Who's got everyone's attention? Oh, him. So, he's looking for her. So, she invited her teacher. Her teacher seemed to like her performance. Oh, she forgot her fan? Oh no that's not why she wants to talk to him. So, that guy has told her now. Huh. She's still here too. So, she overheard that. Give up on her? Won't be enough? Admiration? Tear off his mask?
あのプレス多すぎやろ。現チャンピオンと、他の連中もいるんか。で、彼女が来たと。注目集めてんのは誰や?ああ、あいつか。彼女を探してるみたいやな。先生呼んだんか。先生は彼女の演技気に入ったみたいやな。あ、扇子忘れたん?いや、話したいのはそれちゃうんか。で、あの男が今伝えたんやな。ふーん。彼女もまだおるんか。それを立ち聞きしたと。彼女を諦めろ?足りひんって?憧れ?仮面を引き剥がせ?2ちゃん
theKGS
I wonder about the "Tear off my mask" thing too. I get the impression that the personality he shows is just a persona, and that he is really quite different in private... I wonder how, though. Maybe he's a lot less strict?
「仮面を剥がせ」ってやつも気になるね。表に出してる性格は仮の姿で、実はプライベートでは全然違うんじゃないかな…でもどんな風なんだろう。もっと厳しくなかったりするのかな。普通くん
NightBard
Fantastic episode. It was cram packed with content. I thought this was going to drag across a bunch of episodes but I’m glad they skipped showing off what the others can do in the first round and saved it. I feel like they could wrap the completion in the episode and maybe dip into another event of some kind.
素晴らしい回だったな。内容がぎっしり詰まってて、正直これで何話も引っ張るかと思ったけど、1回戦で他の面子の実力をわざと見せずに温存したのは賢い選択だと思う。この調子だと、今回のエピソードで大会を収めて、別のイベントに移行する可能性もありそうだという考察ができる。考察くん
wolfbagel
Does anyone know if the VA could actually talk that fast or if they just sped it up after the fact cause that was kinda mind blowing
まじで!?あの早口、声優が実際にやってるのか編集で早送りしてるのか気になるんだけど笑 やばすぎじゃね!?ギャル
IAmTheOldCrow
Johann Gambolputty...
草ァ!ヨハン・ガンボルプティって何やねんwww2ちゃん
shadebug
I hate to imagine what will happen to these episodes in the dub
ダブ版でこのエピソードがどうなるか想像するだけで嫌すぎる……ッ感情くん
RichardBolt94
Rieri my beloved
リエリィ最高だな普通くん
morosehuman
I enjoyed the episode! As an anime early who just binged the first 7 episodes, does anyone else think there’s something up with the dad? She keeps saying he’s away on business…I wonder if the parents divorced
今回のエピソード、非常に興味深かった。先行視聴で1〜7話を一気見した者として、父親の存在に違和感を覚えたのは私だけではないはず。「出張中」と繰り返されるセリフが気になる…両親が離婚している可能性も考慮すべきだな。考察くん
YlfaTheForsaken
One, Akane's voice actress, amazing, I wonder how much practice she had to do to get it right, Two, this is just pure petty hater energy from me, but like I don't really like Hikaru as a character, I mean she's written well and there's not like a single thing that I inherently dislike, and to be fair she's popular as a character, but I just don't click with her
まず、あかねの声優すごすぎない?あの演技のためにどれだけ練習したんだろう。次に、これは完全に個人的なアンチ意見なんだけど、ヒカルってキャラがあんまり好きじゃないんだよね。書き方は上手いし、特に嫌いな要素があるわけじゃないし、人気なのも理解してるんだけど、なんか自分には合わないんだよな。普通くん
Nachtwandler_FS
A few says behind on episode. So, in prelims Akane just bet on her skill. But I wonder what is her plan for the final. Would be interesting to see. And both "rivals" look fun so far.
数話遅れてるけどな。予選であかねは自分の技だけで勝負したんか。でも本戦でどんな策を用意してるのか気になるわ。見てて面白そうやな。それに今んとこ両方の「ライバル」もキャラ立ってて草2ちゃん
iamthatguy54
On one hand, I feel like it's too early for a major win, but on the other, this show opened up with such a devastating loss to this smug MF that I don't want to see it happen in the same season.
うーん、一方でまだ大勝利するには早すぎる気もするけど、このアニメはあのムカつく奴にボロ負けするところから始まったからな…同じクールでまた同じ展開は見たくないんだよな。普通くん