+1099
FLorianGran
The classic "Protag learns to use their sports skills in an unconventional setting" episode
某、思わず膝を打ち申した！「主人公が己の運動能力を異境で活かす」という古典的展開、これこそアニメの醍醐味でござるな。武士+195
Frontier246
Had to work in the service industry to learn to service an audience properly.
(Also it's funny how she's working at an izakaya when she can't even legally drink)
「サービス業で働いて、客を楽しませる術を学んだってわけか…しんどすぎるけど納得」
（しかも彼女、飲酒年齢未満なのに居酒屋で働いてるのウケるｗ）感情くん+90
doomrider7
Must resist urge to talk about running joke stuff!!!
わかる！でもネタバレになりそうなジョークネタはグッとこらえるしかないじゃん！笑ギャル+20
Jauretche
Rakugo anime is just sports anime, that's just a battle shonen anime.
確かに、落語アニメってスポ根やバトルものと同じ構造だよね。普通くん+12
tripleaamin
原文
One aspect of this episode that I really liked is how important it is to see your audience. Give a story to adults, teens, and kids; each would view it differently. Akane kind of expected if I do the same as before, I'll get the same results.
Since Akane is just starting out, one thing we could see that she could really look at the crowd and cater her performance to it. Which is the main thing Kyouji is getting at. Though him calling Akane selfish is a good way for her to understand not to be complacent.
I really like how the anime captures Akane's personality.
このエピソードで特に良かったのは、「観客を見ることの重要性」だな。同じ話を大人、ティーン、子どもに聞かせても、それぞれ受け取り方が違う。あかねは「前と同じやり方をすれば同じ結果が得られる」と思い込んでいた節がある。
あかねはまだ駆け出しだからこそ、観客の反応をしっかり見て、それに合わせて演じ方を調整する能力が問われる。狂言が言いたいのはまさにそこだ。「あかねは自分勝手だ」という指摘は、彼女に慢心を捨てさせるための良い教え方だと思う。
アニメがあかねの性格をここまで丁寧に描いている点も、制作陣の意図が感じられて好印象だな。考察くん+161
maliwanag0712
原文
> Since Akane is just starting out, one thing we could see that she could really look at the crowd and cater her performance to it.
To be fair it is just her second time showing her rakugo to a live audience. Most of the time she was just honing her craft and training under Shingeshumi. Usually, geniuses without experience like Akane tend to just show off, without realizing they are not there to connect to the audience, but to just make them "wow" with their skills at their young age. What happened serves as a great reality check that connection with the audience is a must-have in rakugo, which Akane seemed to realize after. Good!
確かに、彼女はまだ二度目の高座。天才ゆえに観客を魅了する技に溺れがちだが、落語とは観客との魂の交感こそが本質。今回の出来事は、我が道を往く者に突きつけられた運命の試練、すなわち「観客あっての芸」という真理への覚醒なのだ。中二病+64
Frontier246
Also her main drive is basically proving her and her fathers' rakugo, which is why she wants to stand out and show-off, but she can't make it in an industry meant to entertain others through just that.
確かに、あかねの原動力は自分と父親の落語を証明することだからこそ、目立って見せびらかそうとするのは理解できる。しかし、他人を楽しませるための業界で、それだけでやっていくのは難しいというのが興味深い考察だな。彼女の成長には、自己表現と観客への適応のバランスが鍵になると思われる。考察くん+30
PerfectBeige
原文
>Though him calling Akane selfish is a good way for her to understand not to be complacent.
~~It's translated as "selfish", but the word that Kyouji uses in his initial criticism is 傲慢 / gouman, and it might be better translated as arrogant. As in, it is arrogant for Akane to expect the audience to come to her because she is so excellent at rakugo instead of her empathizing with and modulating her performance for the audience. I don't think Akane is a selfish performer (a performer who performs for herself) but I do think she was an arrogant performer. Totally understandable given that she is starting out, of course.~~
Incidentally, the idea of modulating rakugo for a particular audience might be in conflict with Isshou's apparent belief in the purity of true rakugo. Or perhaps Tooru's deepest failure was not catering in his rakugo to the preferences of his most important audience member.
確かに、京次が使った「傲慢」って言葉は大事だよね。あかねが「自分がすごいから観客がついてくる」と思い込んでたのは、まさに傲慢さだったと思う。彼女が自己中な演者ってわけじゃなく、初心者ゆえの傲慢さって感じ。それは仕方ないけどね。
ついでに言うと、観客に合わせて落語を変えるって考えは、一祥の「純粋な落語」信仰とぶつかるかもね。あるいは、トオルの最大の失敗は、一番大事な観客の好みに合わせられなかったことだったのかも。普通くん+39
Bassaluna
it's a good way to already see the difference between someone trained by issho like kaisei and the shiguma apprentices.
確かに、それがしもそのように思うでござる。一正に指南を受けた魁成と、志熊の弟子たちの差が如実に表れておる。あかねが慢心せぬための良い布石であるな。武士+22
BosuW
>Or perhaps Tooru's deepest failure was not catering in his rakugo to the preferences of his most important audience member.
I'm thinking it's more along these lines. There's no way someone as accomplished at Rakugou as Isshou doesn't believe in paying attention to the audience. Most probably his issue is with changing what he believes to be the essence of the artform.
確かに。あかねが慢心しないようにってのはあるけど、それ以上に「お客さんに合わせること」と「芸の本質を変えること」の違いを伝えたかったんだと思う。一舟みたいなベテランが観客を無視するわけないしね。普通くん+17
bestmaokaina
He also used the adjective "migatte" which if im not mistaken means selfish.
as in just thinking that the way she wanted to do it was the way the audience should enjoy by default
「migatte」って形容詞を使ってたけど、あれ「自分勝手」って意味だよな！
つまり彼女は「自分が思う正しいやり方こそ、観客が楽しむべき形」って思い込んでたってことか。
それに気づかせるためのあの一言、エグすぎるッ！感情くん+13
PerfectBeige
You're right. I went back and the English translation is "You sure are arrogant. Your rakugo couldn't be more selfish."
確かに。原文に戻って確認したら、英訳だと「お前は本当に傲慢だな。お前の落語はこれ以上なく自己中心的だ」ってなってたよ。普通くん+9
Frontier246
原文
>One aspect of this episode that I really liked is how important it is to see your audience. Give a story to adults, teens, and kids; each would view it differently. Akane kind of expected if I do the same as before, I'll get the same results.
Though you gotta appreciate the old-timers who didn't find it as funny as Akane was going for but were still amused by this firecacking young whippersnapper.
確かに。このエピソードで重要なのは「観客を見極める」ことの奥深さだよな。同じ演目でも大人・ティーン・子どもでは受け取り方が全く変わるというのは、落語という媒体の本質を突いた考察だと思う。あかねが「前と同じことをすれば同じ結果になる」と予想したのも、彼女の経験則からすれば自然な発想だ。
ただ、ベテラン連中が彼女の演目にそこまで笑わなかったけど、それでも「若造が頑張ってるな」と好意的に見ていた点は見逃せない。あの反応には、世代間のギャップと同時に、落語界の懐の深さが表れていると思われる。考察くん+23
ModieOfTheEast
The whole theme worked especially well because in the first two episodes they started the performances with a POV shot that always ended on them (father or daughter) looking at the audience. It was used there more as a way to show how overwhelming the audience can feel, but becomes a secondary meaning after this episode.
同意。最初の2話で客席を見るPOVショットが、圧倒される感じを表してたけど、このエピソードで別の意味も加わったのが良かったね。普通くん+5
oxlemf10
What Kyoji applied to Akane makes perfect sense; you can talk to anyone, but understanding what someone is feeling or trying to convey is completely different. Putting her in a bar, besides being practical, allows her to experience other personalities.
狂児があかねに課した条件は理にかなっているな。誰とでも話せることと、相手の感情や伝えたいことを理解することは全く別物だ。バーに立たせるのは実用的であると同時に、様々な人格を経験させる伏線とも取れる。考察くん+138
This-is_CMGRI
In my younger, more desperate years, I cut my teeth in the BPO industry whose client is a Top North American Telecom Conglomerate, and boy has Kyoji's advice never applied more accurately, doubly so when the customer is so markedly different from you. You can't merely show *off*, you need to show them that you care and that you won't waste the caller's time.
確かに、京次が茜に言ったことは完全に正しいな。俺も昔BPO業界で働いてたけど、顧客と自分が全く違うタイプならなおさら、ただスキルを見せつけるだけじゃダメで、相手を気にかけてるってことと、相手の時間を無駄にしないって姿勢を見せなきゃいけないんだよな。普通くん+60
Nachtwandler_FS
Yeah, if you are working with people, who you need to satisfy, things like active listening and adapting to each specific client are a must.
確かに、かの苛烈なる北米通信業界の修羅道を潜り抜けた者にしか語れぬ真理よな。顧客を満足させるという使命の前では、能動的傾聴と個々の相手に合わせた適応こそが、禁忌の魔術書を紐解く鍵となるのだ。中二病+30
ButterIsMyLifeblood
Love seeing Akanes little fangs
あかねのちょっとした八重歯、好きだな〜普通くん+137
Frontier246
The pink hair tips and the fangs really help her stand out visually on-top of how expressive she is.
せやな。ピンクの毛先と牙でめっちゃ目立つし、表情豊かすぎて草生えるわwww2ちゃん+67
This-is_CMGRI
原文
Man, this episode felt like it flew by faster than I thought. But it's always nice to see the process of "learning by living" be introduced here, this close to the start of her arc, because it really does seem like rakugo pulls heaps from the real world and Akane needs a wider set of experiences to truly find the heart of what the form represents.
For the three-episode-limit folks, this set has done well in setting the table for Akane's journey, and I reckon you'll be glad to be on the ground floor. For binge-watchers, you'll be in for a brisk opener, all things considered.
As always, only r/Akane is the active sub.
今回のエピソード、思ったよりあっという間に終わったな。でも「生きることで学ぶ」プロセスが彼女の編の開始直前に導入されるのは良いね。落語って現実からたくさん引っ張ってくるし、あかねには形式の本質を見つけるためにもっと幅広い経験が必要だと思う。
3話ルール派には、この3話であかねの旅の準備がしっかり整えられた感じ。最初から見てて良かったって思うよ。一気見派にはテンポの良い幕開けになるはず。
いつも通り、アクティブなサブレはr/Akaneだけね。普通くん+128
Frontier246
原文
Akane is talented, she can do great voices/charicatures, but she's still a high school girl who was driven only by a passion for Rakugo and honoring her father.
So she's definitely got a lot to learn and it's important to realize rakugo is more than just the skillset, it's about the people you're applying that skillset for.
That being said, I am constantly amused by Akane using her rakugo skills for things other than rakugo skills. Like dissing a stuck-up kid and his stuck-up parent or to communicate with someone non-verbally.
確かに。あかねは確かに才能があって声色や物真似は素晴らしいけど、彼女はまだ「落語への情熱」と「父への想い」だけで突き進んでいる高校生に過ぎないんだよな。
つまり、彼女にはまだまだ学ぶべきことが山積みで、落語とは単なる技術の習得じゃなくて、その技術を誰に向けて発揮するかが本質だって気づくことが重要だという考察ができる。
そういう意味で、あかねが落語のスキルを本来の用途以外で使ってるシーンは常に面白い。例えば、偉そうなガキとその親をやり込めたり、無言で他人とコミュニケーション取ったりするのって、彼女の成長の伏線だと思われる。考察くん+39
cleaulem
Yeah, the only problem I have with this show is that the episodes are only 5 minutes long 😛
せやな、このアニメの唯一の不満は1話5分しかないことやわ😛2ちゃん+21
PerfectBeige
原文
Masaki is such a great mom. Shiguma failed her husband completely during the expulsion, and her daughter might be walking into a similar situation - particularly because a traditionalist like Isshou is likely to be extra critical of a female, young rakugoka given that only 5-7% of rakugo performers are female. You can tell that Masaki knows this, but she also reckons with her daughter's personality and lifelong passion, and her own willfulness in choosing her path to hairdressing. So Masaki settles on being behind her daughter even though she disapproves of the decision and probably believes it will end in tears.
マサキは本当にいい母親だね。シグマは追放の時に夫を完全に失敗させたし、娘も似たような状況に陥りそう——特に一翔みたいな伝統主義者は女性の若い落語家に対して余計に厳しいだろうし、落語家の女性比率が5〜7%しかいないしね。マサキはそれをわかってるけど、娘の性格と生涯の情熱、そして自分が美容師の道を選んだ時の頑固さも理解してるんだ。だから反対してるし泣く結果になると思ってても、娘の後ろにいることを選んだんだな。普通くん+107
doomrider7
Said this before, but Get you a smokeshow waifu who supports your passion like Tohru did.
マジで言えてるわw トールみたいに夢を応援してくれる美人妻、マジで理想だよな笑wwwおじ+73
Shadow_Ass
Mf won the lottery. Dream wife and a great daughter who's passionate about something and adores him.
それな！あいつ宝くじ当てたようなもんだろ。理想の嫁に加えて、情熱持った可愛い娘に慕われてさ。完全に優勝すぎるッ！感情くん+56
Jauretche
He's the real fantasy insert.
せやな。宝くじ当てて、理想の嫁もらって、夢中になれるもん持ってる娘に慕われるってガチでチートすぎやろwww2ちゃん+18
Golden_Alchemy
I need a prequel with Masaki ~~Tohru~~ doing a becoming a hairdresser.
マジでそれ！トールみたいに夢を全力で応援してくれる彼女、最高じゃん！
あとマサキが美容師になるまでの前編、絶対見たいんだけど！？ギャル+16
doomrider7
I think you mean Masaki. And yeah one of the biggest things in the fandom is how the writers are so skilled, that a general SoL story between Tohru and Masaki being parents to Akane would've been just as great as what we have now. Ditto for the original concept of it being a ballet manga, though that would make it too similar to Magnificent Grand Scene(amazing manga, please look into it as well).
同意。マサキのことだよな。ファンの間でよく言われるのが、制作陣の手腕の高さで、トールとマサキがアカネの親として過ごす日常系ストーリーでも、今作と同じくらい素晴らしいものになっただろうという考察があるんだ。バレエ漫画という初期構想も同様で、ただそれだと『Magnificent Grand Scene』（名作なので要チェック）と類似しすぎるというのは納得だ。考察くん+17
BosuW
I love how she doesn't seem to have much idea about Rakugo herself but she supported Tohru unconditionally just because _he_ loved it, and same with Akane.
まあ、彼女自身は落語に詳しくないのに、トオルが好きだからって無条件で応援してたのがいいよな。あかねにも同じことしてるし。ドライおじ+13
BosuW
原文
>particularly because a traditionalist like Isshou is likely to be extra critical of a female, young rakugoka given that only 5-7% of rakugo performers are female.
The young daughter of the guy he considers to have borderline personally offended him no less
I'm really curious how Akane gonna make it in Arakawa school considering Isshou seems to have every possible reason to not accept her. Her Rakugou skill gonna have to be utterly undeniable to even have a chance and yet it almost seems to be more of a matter of opinion so it is going to be even harder to change Isshou's mind.
**>>伝統主義者の一翔が女性の若手落語家に特に厳しいのは、女性落語家が全体の5〜7％しかいないからなんだよな**
しかもその娘が、一翔がほぼ個人的に侮辱されたと感じてる男の娘ってんだからな
一翔が受け入れる理由が全部潰されてて、あかねが荒川亭でどうやってやっていくのかマジ気になるわ。彼女の落語の腕前が完全に否定できないレベルじゃないとチャンスすらねえし、しかも好みの問題も絡んでくるから、一翔の心を変えるのはさらに難しそうやな2ちゃん+18
FightmeLuigibestgirl
This. I’m tired of Japanese media having missing, dead, or horrible mothers.
それなw 日本のメディアの母親ってほんと消えるか死ぬかクソ親ばっかで草wwwおじ+10
Charming-Loquat3702
>particularly because a traditionalist like Isshou is likely to be extra critical of a female, young rakugoka given that only 5-7% of rakugo performers are female.
Actually, I don't know how much of a traditionalist Issho really is. His student said, that all that counts with him is skill. You'd expect a traditionalist to value things like seniority after all.
確かに一翔がどれだけ伝統主義者かは微妙だね。弟子が言うには彼にとっては実力が全てらしいし。伝統主義者なら年功序列とか重視しそうだけど。普通くん+6
Se7en_Sinner
I know Akane's father would be so proud of her looking down from the heavens. God rest his soul.
あかねの父親も天国から見守ってて誇りに思ってるやろな…ご冥福をお祈りしますわ2ちゃん+76
Frontier246
As it's buried in so much concrete...paperwork...
まじそれな！コンクリートに埋もれてる感じがまたリアルじゃん？笑 てかお父さんも空から見て絶対「やっぱあかねはすげえな」って思ってるよ！ギャル+52
Vane_999
RIP dad. no more rakugo for you~~, but at least you're working and earning way more money you can take your family out to eat!~~
まあ、父親も空の上で娘を誇りに思ってるだろうな。そっとしておいてやってほしいもんだ。ドライおじ+18
BigThiccDictionary
Again, Tooru Osaki is very much alive.
せやな、大崎トールは生きてるンゴwww 天から見守ってるって草生えるわ2ちゃん+6
Maybe_this_time_fr
Yes, yes, it's like he never left us. RIP.
確かに、まるでずっとそこにいたみたいだね。ご冥福をお祈りします。普通くん+13
Muffin-zetta
man everyone is really hot in this show
まじでこのアニメキャラみんなイケメンすぎじゃない！？やばくね！？ギャル+54
BosuW
Yet more proof that it's a battle Shounen
確かに、バトル漫画の証拠がまた一つ増えたな。普通くん+50
Muffin-zetta
She also got introduced to the class/guild/squad of teammates
それな！まさにバトル少年漫画すぎるッ！クラスメイト紹介エモすぎて泣いた感情くん+24
Vane_999
Kyoji has my attention now 😆
確かに、京次がめっちゃ気になってきたわｗ普通くん+16
Muffin-zetta
Of course, look at that absolute slab of a man
確かに！あの体格ヤバすぎるだろッ！完全に注目しちゃうわｗ感情くん+19
Charming-Loquat3702
It is a performing art. Looking good does help in getting popular.
確かに。芸能の世界だし、見た目がいいのは人気に繋がるよね。普通くん+8
Aileos
Can someone explain to me how the highest rank has the right to expel people like Akane’s father? Like one single person could decide the fate of every people in this industry just on a whim?
「え、ちょっと待って…一番上のランクの人が、あかねの父さんみたいなのを追放できる権限持ってるってどういうこと？たった一人の気ままで業界の全員の運命決められるの？無理すぎるッ！」感情くん+46
Novca
He doesn't, that's just anime way to start the story.
確かに、現実的にはありえないよね。でもアニメならではのストーリー導入って感じかな。普通くん+130
Frontier246
We've got have at least **some** proper Shonen antagonist aura farming to kick things off.
わかるッ！**ある程度**はちゃんとした少年漫画の敵キャラオーラ出してほしいんだよな！これで始まるのがアニメって感じ！感情くん+59
This-is_CMGRI
Issho legit looked like Akuma in that one eye shot.
せやな、あの片目だけのカット、Issho完全に悪魔やったわ草2ちゃん+31
TsukumoYurika
原文
This is the one major creative liberty in here. The right to expel a student lies only in the hands of said student's master (though said student can be asked politely^TM to leave their respective association after serious misdemeanour. That doesn't dissolve the master-student bond though and the one getting kicked out can potentially continue as an independent)
**That said:** You can be expelled by your master even after your shinuchi promotion, though you need to seriously fuck up for such thing to happen.
確かにそれについてはちょっとした創作上の自由が入ってるよね。生徒を破門できるのは基本的にはその師匠だけ（重大な違反があった場合は協会から「丁寧に」退会を促されることはあるけど、それでも師弟関係は解消されないし、独立して続けることも可能）。
**とはいえ：** 真打昇進後でも師匠から破門されることはあるよ。ただ、そうなるには相当やらかさないとダメだけどね。普通くん+100
mekerpan
But if one is expelled from one's association (as a futatsume), can they ever rise to shin'uchi?
それな！でももし二つ目として組合から除名されたら、真打ちに上がれるのってやばくね？笑ギャル+8
Nenorock
Yes they can, although traditionally they must start all the way back from Zenza which even for a former futatsume can take years.
Its one thing being able to survive with only a allowance as an apprentice when your I think late teens early 20s, its another when your somewhere in your late 20s to early 30s and a wife and kid to look after
確かにできるよ。でも伝統的には前座からやり直しで、元二ツ目でも何年もかかるらしい。修行中の手当だけで食ってけるのは10代後半〜20代前半までだし、20代後半〜30代で妻子抱えてるとなると話は別だよね。普通くん+26
ddrober2003
I imagine while he doesn't have the actual authority that he has so much clout that him saying it kinda forces the person to quit. Like technically her dad wasn't required to quit but people into the art wouldn't take him seriously and he had no chance at promotion at that point.
確かに、形式的な権限があるわけではないが、彼ほどの影響力を持つ人物が「辞めるべきだ」と言えば、実質的にその人物は追い込まれるという考察ができる。つまり、彼女の父親は技術的には辞める義務はなかったが、芸道に携わる者たちから真剣に受け止められず、昇進の可能性も絶たれた、という構造だろう。この点、権威と実力の関係性を描いた伏線として興味深い。考察くん+57
This-is_CMGRI
One can think of it like getting to the grand final only for Simon Cowell to unload his total disapproval on a contestant's performance at that stage when he's been pretty consistently helpful and constructive before then.
確かに、ずっと建設的にアドバイスしてきたサイモン・コーウェルが決勝でいきなり全否定するようなもんだよね。普通くん+22
Golden_Alchemy
Yeah, he doesn't have the authority, but i bet it was more like his father felt like his best wasn't enough and just gave up. Which is a shame.
せやな、権限はないけど、父親の方は「自分のベストじゃ足りない」って感じで諦めたんやろな。それがもうマジで悲しいンゴ……。2ちゃん+9
Se7en_Sinner
It's like how a high profile food critic can ruin a restaurant. While they technically have no authority to shut it down, their review could cause irreparable damage.
確かに！一流の料理評論家が店を潰せるのと同じで、形式上は権限なくてもその評価で致命的なダメージを与えられるってことだよね。つまり権力じゃなくて影響力の話ってわけ。エモすぎる設定だわ。感情くん+49
BosuW
Hell's ~~kitchen~~ Rakugo
確かに、高名な料理評論家が店を潰せるのと同じだね。普通くん+14
doomrider7
On paper, no. More details come up as the series pushes on.
確かに表面上は無理だよな。でも話が進むにつれて詳細が明らかになるんだ。この設定、めちゃくちゃ気になるしエモすぎるッ！感情くん+23
This-is_CMGRI
原文
~~lighting the signal for our resident rakugo guide~~
Signal lit, here's the clean Watsonian explanation:
Issho's character is being set up as a Terence Fletcher-like archetype (for those who watched *Whiplash*) and the expulsion can be seen as the best, most expedient and brutal way to make you feel like it. As Yurika-san said, only the most absurd circumstance can truly break a bond between master and student, so for Issho to do it in a public way shows the standards Issho may be setting for Akane.
せやな、ワイが説明したるわ。
- 一翔は『セッション』のテレンス・フレッチャーみたいなポジションやな。あの映画見た人ならわかるやろ。
- 破門は最速で最も残酷な方法や。師弟の絆を断ち切るにはこれぐらいぶっ飛んだ状況が必要なんやて。
- ユリカさんの言う通り、普通じゃ絶対に壊れへん関係をぶった切るには、これぐらい派手なやり方せなあかん。
- つまり一翔は、あかねにそれだけの基準を課してるってことやろな。
ワイもこれ見て「うわっ」てなったわ。ガチで草。2ちゃん+17
Frontier246
Issho: "Not quite my Rakugo."
「確かに！Isshoの『俺の落語じゃねぇ』ってセリフ、めっちゃかっこよくない！？」ギャル+16
This-is_CMGRI
continued in the source corner
「なるほどな」って感じだね。原作でもその辺の空気感は大事にしてるし。普通くん+6
stephennotstrange
原文
He can’t decide the fate of every people in this industry.
He just a head of a school - not a whole industry, think of him as a principal, he can only expel the student in his school - which is Shinta and everyone in episode 1 (each school has their own promotion event - and Episode 1 was Arakawa school).
And to be clear, technically, he can’t expel other master’s student, but he has a lot of power/clout that he can keep those people at Futatsume forever, and if you know you can’t be promoted to Shin’uchi, there is no point of staying in the school.
彼が業界全体の命運を決められるわけではないんだよな。
彼はあくまで一つの学校のトップでしかない。校長みたいなものだと考えればいい。実際に追放できるのは自分の学校の生徒だけ——つまり新太や1話に出てきた連中（各学校に独自の昇進イベントがあって、1話のは荒川の学校のものだった）。
明確に言うと、他の師匠の弟子を正式に追放することはできない。だが彼には相当な権力と影響力があるから、あの人たちを永遠に二ツ目に留まらせることができる。そして二ツ目から真打に昇進できないと分かれば、その学校に居続ける意味はなくなる、という考察ができる。考察くん+16
segfaulted_irl
As other people have said, it's not really a thing irl, but it's also important to note that Issho (the guy who expelled everyone) is the head of the Arakawa school, so in-universe it's less like a normal shinuchi expelling people and more like the principal/headmaster making the decision
他の人も言ってるけど、現実にはないシステムだよね。でも一翔（みんなを破門したやつ）は荒川流のトップだから、作中では普通の真打が追放するっていうより、校長・理事長が決断した感じなんだと思う。普通くん+14
Muffin-zetta
it exists literally to fulfill the dead parent revenge hook
せやな、主人公の親を殺すための設定ってガチでそれだけやんwww2ちゃん+7
ohoni
In addition to what others have said, I assume there's also a "clout" component to this. If someone so respected in this very narrow industry as him says "this guy's a bum and doesn't deserve to work," then that's basically the end of his career, even if there's no legal basis to stop him. All the venues would both explicitly and implicitly blacklist him from performing.
他の人が言ってることに加えて、これには「影響力」の要素もあるんじゃないかな。この狭い業界であれだけ尊敬されてる人が「こいつはクズだ、働く価値もない」って言えば、法的な根拠がなくても実質的にキャリア終わりだよね。会場側も表向きにも暗黙にもブラックリスト入りさせるだろうし。普通くん+8
TsukumoYurika
# Rakugo Q&A desk
So business open as usual, shoot as many questions that come to your mind as you wish 😊
やばっ！質問コーナー始まったじゃん！どんどん聞いちゃおうぜ！😊ギャル+48
unHolyKnightofBihar
How long dies it take to go from Zenza to Futatsume, normally?
普通は前座から二ツ目になるまでどれくらいかかるんだろう？普通くん+20
TsukumoYurika
Usually around 4 to 5 years (depends on several factors such as the association, amount of work days skipped due to illness etc)
The recent record is Tatekawa Kissho, who became futatsume in 1y5m (and this record is likely no longer beatable because his association, Tatekawa-ryu later set a rule that set minimum zenza period there at 3 years)
前座から二ツ目になるまで普通は4〜5年ぐらいやな（協会とか病気で休んだ日数とかで変わるけど）
最近の記録は立川吉笑で1年5ヶ月で二ツ目になったンゴ（でもこの記録はもう破れないかもな、立川流がその後前座期間の最低3年ルール設けたから）2ちゃん+34
unHolyKnightofBihar
Thanks, do zenza pay their teachers some kindbof fee for the training.
Also is there any book in snglish, to read the stories told in Rakugo?
ありがとう。前座は師匠に修行代みたいなのを払うのかな？
あと、落語で語られる話を英語で読める本ってある？普通くん+17
Norix596
On a similar note, what is the fewest number of years Akane could spend at Zenza and Futusume ranks that you could find reasonably plausible / be willing to suspend disbelief for.
確かにそれな！あかねが前座と二つ目で過ごす最低年数って、現実的に考えてどれくらいなら納得できる？俺は2年くらいでもギリ許せる気がするけど、どう思う？感情くん+7
maliwanag0712
原文
I know some stories they feature in rakugo are lost in translation, but what makes rakugo stories *funny* to the audience? Is it the pun or the punchline?
This is my main concern with me reading and watching Akane-banashi, and it is not really due to the source material nor the anme adaptation, but the idea that I have no idea about the stories they are telling. It is more of a skill issue to me and not the excellent material. It's just lost in translation for me.
確かに、落語の面白さって言葉遊びやオチにあるから、翻訳で伝わりにくいのは難しいよね。あかね噺自体は素晴らしい作品だと思うけど、元の噺を知らないと楽しみ切れない部分があるのはわかる。自分も同じで、これは作品のせいじゃなくて、純粋に知識不足の問題だと思ってる。普通くん+24
TsukumoYurika
原文
*insert my "hanashika can come in all shapes and colours" mantra here*
It depends heavily on the story and its performer. Even if we omit stories for which making the audience laugh wasn't the primary intention (ninjobanashi and kaidanbanashi come to mind) some focus primarily on the punchline (ochi) itself, some put more of their mana into the makura (see my last week's comment,) some focus more on the gestures and some just evenly distribute their stats across all elements of the story.
And that's before we segue into the whole "hanashika that fill highly specific niches" territory.
*ワイの「噺家は十人十色」マントラをここに挿入*
ストーリーと演者次第やな。笑わせるのが目的じゃない話（人情話・怪談話とか）を抜いても、オチ重視のやつ、枕に全振りするやつ（先週のコメント参照）、仕草重視、全部に均等にステ振りするやつ…色々おるンゴ。
んで、さらに「特定のニッチ専門にやってる噺家」って領域に入ると話は別やしな。2ちゃん+31
This-is_CMGRI
原文
By your estimate/industry statements, roughly how many youngsters are currently apprentices? How many are zenza? How young are the youngest futatsume? And at least from where you're standing, how big a wave has Akane-banashi made in terms of not only showing the viability of rakugo for younger audiences, but as a gateway for the art? Do you reckon the anime can supercharge that wave assuming the quality keeps up and it rates well in Japan?
I realize how painfully gaijin I am but I've actually cooled on this anime being big in the English-speaking world so I'm more than fine with it doing low numbers on Western socials. But what's it like in Japan?
業界の話だと、今の若い見習いって大体どのくらいいるんだろう？前座の人数は？最年少の二ツ目って何歳なんだろ。あと、あかね噺って若い層に落語の可能性を見せただけでなく、入口としてどれだけ波を作ったと思う？アニメのクオリティが維持されて日本で好評なら、その波をもっと加速できると思う？俺、ガイジ丸出しだけど、このアニメが英語圏で大ヒットするとは正直思ってないから、海外SNSの数字が低くても別にいいんだよね。でも日本ではどうなの？普通くん+16
TsukumoYurika
原文
> how many youngsters are currently apprentices?
If you mean the minarai stage (the one before zenza) it's pretty hard to estimate for the simple reason of their masters not really being too keen on showing their minarai (and, to lesser extent, zenza) off (the simple reason is that records of minarai and zenza that quit before futatsume promotion are usually supposed to be expunged)
> How many are zenza?
From my calculation, the 4 Edo rakugo associations have a total of 38 zenza (at least 3 of them pending futatsume promotion) though you need to account for the fact that for a significant chunk of them, their zenza tenure started pretty late due to one little pandemic significantly paralyzing the yose community as a whole. At least in Rakugo Kyokai/Rakkyo there is this sort of a queue for minarai before they are allowed to become zenza.
> How young are the youngest futatsume?
To much of my angst (/j) the youngest futatsume I know of is a few months younger than me... (Hayashiya Tatami, born 2000)
> how big a wave has Akane-banashi made in terms of not only showing the viability of rakugo for younger audiences, but as a gateway for the art?
To my knowledge, it has found a bit of a potent ground, but it's really hard for me to estimate as of now. I personally feel the Akane effect on bringing in new generation to the art - regardless of how the anime rates - won't be apparent until a few years from now because raising said new generation takes time.
【返信】
> 現在何人の若者が見習い中？
「minarai（前座前の段階）」を指すなら、正確な推定は難しい。というのも、師匠たちが弟子のminarai（そしてある程度前座も）を積極的に公表したがらないからだ（理由は単純で、二つ目昇進前に辞めたminaraiや前座の記録は通常抹消されるべきとされているため）。
> 前座は何人？
私の計算では、4つの江戸落語協会の前座は合計38人（うち少なくとも3人は二つ目昇進待ち）。ただし、その多くが前座期間をかなり遅くスタートしている点は考慮すべき。というのも、あの小さなパンデミックが寄席コミュニティ全体をかなり麻痺させたからだ。少なくとも落語協会では、minaraiが前座になる前に一種の順番待ちの列が存在する。
> 最年少の二つ目はどれくらい若い？
私にとっては（冗談です）知る限り最年少の二つ目は私より数ヶ月年下…（林家たたみ、2000年生まれ）。
> 『あかね噺』は若い観客に落語の可能性を示すだけでなく、芸事への入り口としてどの程度の波を起こした？
私の知る限り、一定の土壌は見つけたが、現時点では評価が難しい。個人的には、アニメの評価に関わらず、この「あかね効果」が新世代を芸事に引き込むかどうかは、数年経たないと明らかにならないと考察くん+34
Krazee9
How do new rakugo stories get created? It seems that many of the stories are decades or even centuries old, but someone has to create new ones at some point. And when they do get created, how are they passed around?
【返信先】: 落語Q&Aコーナー
新しい落語のネタってどうやって作られるんや？ 既存のは何十年も何世紀も前の話ばっかやけど、誰かが新作作らなあかんやろ。で、できたネタはどうやって広まってくんの？2ちゃん+10
ULTRAFORCE
At it's core Rakugo is a form of entertainment where one is a storyteller seated and can only use two props the fan and a piece of cloth as props. Beyond that I could be wrong, but I think if a Rakugoka wanted to they could create a new story, there's just the consideration of does the audience, venue, and others in the profession like it?
確かに、落語の基本は座って扇子と手ぬぐいだけを使って話す芸能だよね。新しい話を作ることも可能だと思うけど、観客や会場、同業者に受け入れられるかどうかが問題なんだろうな。普通くん+13
Nachtwandler_FS
There are about 500 rakugo stories being performed. Were any written in modern times? And did this number changed much overall in rakugo history? I rember this being one of the storypoints in Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinju.
確かに、落語の演目数が約500というのは昭和元禄落語心中でも触れられていた重要な設定だな。現代作も存在するという考察ができる。例えば、創作落語や新作落語がそれに当たる。歴史的に見ると、演目数は時代と共に増減していると思われる。江戸時代から伝わる古典に加え、明治以降に作られたものも多い。この辺り、あかね噺でも現代の落語家が新作に挑む姿が描かれる可能性があるのでは。考察くん+11
TsukumoYurika
原文
The Rakugo Jiten (from the 70s) lists a total of a little over 1000 stories and around 300 of those were shinsaku (completely new stories at the time) or kaisaku (significantly tweaked versions of traditional stories)
I'll also answer u/Krazee9 while we're at it: there is quite a lot of hanashika who made shinsaku their main specialization and in many such cases, the process is mostly "write what is coming to your mind and see if it sticks." Some shinsaku were not really intended to be passed down as they were products of very specific times (Sanyutei Enjo I was particularly famous for these) but many others are clearly on their way to become part of The Classics^TM (Yanagiya Koen's Gutsu Gutsu for example has been passed down to many people other than the creator.)
And that's before we take into account a pretty active rakugo writing scene among the "outsiders" (Rakkyo in particular holds an annual shinsaku writing contest for non-hanashika.)
【返信先: 落語の話数について】
落語辞典（70年代）には1000ちょい載ってて、そのうち300くらいが新作or改作やで
ついでにu/Krazee9にも答えるわ
新作専門の噺家は結構おるンゴ
「思いついたまま書いてウケるか試す」って感じやな
中には時代限定で継承を想定してないのもある（三遊亭圓丈Iが有名）
でも柳家小三治の「ぐつぐつ」みたいに古典入りしそうなのもゴロゴロあるで
さらに外部の落語作家も活発やしな
特にらっきょは一般人向けの新作コンテスト毎年やってるわ2ちゃん+11
Awesome_Face
原文
I meant to ask last week but didn't get a chance to write it up
You mentioned it would be impolite to comment on Shinta's shinuchi exam performance of Shibahama due to IRL reasons, and I'm not interested in prying into that don't worry, my interest is in that it's a performance of a performance of Shibahama by a voice actor and not a rakugoka performing it, is it still impolite to comment on their performance given the intention would be that Shinta (arguably) failed? I fear that might be a bit word salad-y and I apologise if it's unclear! If you don't want to elaborate further on what you said last week that's fine too!
Question for this week: I noticed Kyoji and Hakushu were watching Akane's performance from behind the audience, I thought there was etiquette about only watching from the sidelines? I understand for judges that would need to be in the audience but my understanding was rakugoka do not watch their compatriots performances officially?
先週の「芝浜」の新真打昇進披露口演についての話だけど、あれは落語家本人の口演じゃなくて声優による演技の演技ってことになるよね。それでも「新真（一応）失敗した」っていう意図でコメントするのは失礼にあたるのかな？ちょっとわかりにくくてごめん。先週の話をこれ以上掘り下げたくないならそれで大丈夫。
今週の質問：狂志と白砂が観客の後ろからあかねの口演を見てたけど、本来は袖から見るのがマナーなんじゃないの？審査員は客席にいる必要があるのはわかるけど、落語家が同業者の口演を公式に見るのはしないって認識なんだけど。普通くん+10
JJVM99
原文
It was nice to see that Akane’s mom knew all along and watching her learn to consider her audience when delivering her rakugo was nice to see as well.
One thing I do hope isn’t the case permanently is Akane’s dad just not being present in the story. I know him being expelled is the equivalent of killing him of in a regular shonen by killing his dream but him seeing Akane achieve his dream is the thing I look forward to happening the most in the story when it happens eventually. They could just have him not appear until Akane eventually takes the test and passes it avenging him and it will be amazing and emotional when it happens but I also think it would be cool for him to at least see him a bit even in a secondary manner and see how he feels about Akane following his dream and her performances but I seriously doubt it considering that role is being fulfilled by Shiguma.
アカネの母親が最初から全てを理解していたという描写は良かったし、彼女が落語を披露する際に観客を意識するよう成長する過程も見応えがあったな。
ただ、アカネの父親が物語に全く登場しないままなのは、恒久的な展開になってほしくないと願う。彼の破門は、いわば普通の少年漫画で夢を殺される＝死亡扱いに相当するわけだが、彼がアカネが自身の夢を叶える姿を見届ける瞬間こそ、物語が最終的に迎えるべき最大の見どころだと期待している。試験合格による復讐成就の形で父親が再登場する展開は確かに感動的だろう。しかし、せめて二次的な形で彼が登場し、アカネが自身の夢を継いでいることや彼女のパフォーマンスに対する感情を描くのも面白いと思う。ただ、その役割は現状シグマが担っているから、実現は難しいだろうな。考察くん+40
This-is_CMGRI
As always, SE Asia viewers should go watch here. NA and OCE viewers should click onto the official Akane-banashi channel.
せやな、いつも通り東南アジア勢はこっち見ろや。北米・オセアニア勢は公式あかね噺チャンネルに飛べって話やな。2ちゃん+36
Ultramarinus
I’m having a blast with this, Akane has such a infectious go getter energy that cheers me up. It’s a big plus that she’s clever to go along with it, makes me really root for her efforts.
やばくない！？あかねのガッツある感じがめっちゃ伝染するし、見てるとこっちまで元気になるじゃん！しかも頭いいからその勢いが無駄じゃないんだよね、まじで応援したくなるわ〜！ギャル+32
Bassaluna
didn't notice when reading these chapters the first time that you start this small arc with kyoji with master shiguma failing to use his rakugo skills to greet akane's mom, because he's too nervous after what happened to tohru, and you end with akane successfully using her rakugo skill to help the tourist make an order.
この短いエピソード、読み返して気づいたんだが、最初は志ぐま師匠がアカネの母に挨拶する時、噺家の技術を使えずに失敗してるんだよな。トオルの一件で緊張してたからだ。そして最後はアカネがその技術を使って観光客の注文を手助けする。この対比、見事な構成だと思う。考察くん+33
mekerpan
I couldn't figure out WHAT language the tourist was speaking. Did anyone recognize it?
観光客が何語話してるのか全然分からなかった。誰か分かった人いる？普通くん+11
SirHighground1
It's Vietnamese. As a Vietnamese myself, it's fun to see a surprising representative in animanga.
First he asked "Món này là món gì?" meaning "What dish is this one?"
Then he asked "Món nào ngon? Tôi muốn ăn..." (covered by Akane's inner thoughts) meaning "Which dish is good? I want to eat..."
Then after her demonstration, "Bia" which just means "Beer".
あれベトナム語やで。ワイもベトナム人やけど、アニメで意外なとこにベトナム語出てきて草。
まず「Món này là món gì?」→「これ何料理？」
次に「Món nào ngon? Tôi muốn ăn...」→「どれが美味い？食いたいンゴ…」
最後の「Bia」→ただの「ビール」や。
せやな、ベトナム語の響きそのままで草生えるわ。2ちゃん+37
mekerpan
Thanks
ありがとう。普通くん+6
PencilgonGiveIt2Ya
I get way too hype when it comes to watching a new episode of this show lol
やばくね！？新話見るたびにテンション爆上がりなんだけど笑ギャル+30
NanDemoKnaives
原文
Kyouji was definitely the right choice to be the one take care of Akane, he's going to make sure her foundation is rock solid. He seems like a good guy too, I'm curious to see what his rakugo is like, he'll probably be very traditional.
Shiguma being very nervous to meet Masaki was amusing, I thought he might have been practicing at first. I'm glad he got to apologize, what happened with Shinta still eats away at him, I hope he's also able to get revenge through Akane, not that he's teaching her for that reason.
Hopefully we'll get to learn how Shiguma became an apprentice in the future lol.
京司がアカネの師匠になるのは間違いなかったな、基礎をガチで固めてくれそうやわ。いい奴そうやし、どんな落語やるのか気になるわ、たぶんめっちゃ伝統的なスタイルなんやろな。
志ぐまがマサキに会うの緊張してたの草生えたわ、最初は練習してたんかと思ったわ。謝罪できてよかったな、真太のことは今でも引きずってるみたいやし。アカネを通じて復讐できたらええな、別にそのために教えてるわけやないけどな。
つーか志ぐまがどうやって弟子入りしたのか、そのうち知りたいンゴwww2ちゃん+25
KumaKumaGambler
Kyoji really is the perfect senior to mentor Akane. He chided her for thinking of skipping school and informed her the mundane seemingly unrelated to Rakugo tasks are necessary as part of one's training.
Through Akane's shy smile upon being thanked, I could feel her sense of accomplishment in successfully communicating with the customer through her Rakugo skills!
恭治はあかねのメンターとして完璧な先輩だよね。学校サボろうとしたのを叱って、落語と無関係に見える日常のタスクも修行の一部だと教えてくれたし。
お客さんに感謝されて照れ笑いするあかねから、落語のスキルでちゃんとコミュニケーションできた達成感が伝わってきたよ！普通くん+25
daspaceasians
Always a fun episode... and can you imagine the smile I got on my face when I heard that customer speak Vietnamese as a Vietnamese weeb?
Props to the show for that little detail. Otherwise, having worked in the retail industry for over 10 years, it does really teach you to listen to people.
毎回楽しい回だけど、あの客がベトナム語を話した時、ベトナム人オタクとして思わずニヤけたよ。
ああいう細かいディテール、制作陣のこだわりを感じるな。あと、自分も小売業10年以上やってた身からすると、やっぱり人の話を聞くことの大切さを教えてくれる回だった。伏線というより、現実の経験を作品に落とし込む巧みさが光る。考察くん+25
ClemFire
Curious how well their Vietnamese was
せやな、ベトナム語どれくらい上手かったんやろなｗ 気になるわ2ちゃん+7
ShadowACR
As a Viet person, it sounded like they got a native speaker
ベトナム人としては、ネイティブスピーカーがやってるように聞こえたよ普通くん+9
mekerpan
I know a lot of OLD Vietnamese folks, but this sounded different from what I was used to hearing....
まじでそれ！？俺も知ってるベトナム人のおじいちゃんおばあちゃんとはなんか違う感じがしたんだけど笑ギャル+5
mekerpan
Most I know are from around Hue.
知ってる連中はみんなフエの近くの出身なんだよね。感情くん+5
Frontier246
原文
There are a lot of fun things you can see at the Arakawa Rakugo school...like Master Shiguma putting on a one-man Rakugo performance to get ready to see his new apprentices' mom, who he hasn't seen since that fateful and tragic moment with her husband.
Dang, Shiguma was all prepped to apologize for six years of training Akane behind Masaki's back, but Akane told her since day 1! That's some straightforward mother-daughter honesty there! And Masaki, for her part, despite not wanting to see her daughter go through the same industry that hurt her husband so much...can't help but accept that there's no stopping her daughter from becoming a Rakugo performer. Just like her own parents couldn't stop her from becoming a beautician. Besides, if her husband still trusts Master Shiguma, she'll entrust him with Akane.
Akane is a trainee on her path to becoming zenza before she graduates high school. And to that effect she'll be working with her Senpai and fellow students, all Futatsume. Guriko! Kogame, your typical anxiety-ridden Chiaki Kobayashi character! Maikeru (Nobunaga Shimazaki!) a playboy convinced Akane will fall for him if he gets too close! And Kyoji (Yohei Azakami!) a diligent and serious Senpai who won't let Akane get away with skipping school work! The exact worst for a free-spirited gyaru to get paired with!
And as you would expect, being a trainee means enthusiastically doing a lot of menial chores for your Senpai and bowing your head...when all Akane really wants to do is perform Rakugo thanks to the kindly Hakushu. She gets another chance to perform, but while she IS talented, she can't make her elderly audience do more than chuckle. Because ultimately Akane played to show herself off, not to please her audience. In that respect, she failed as a Rakugo performer.
But how better to learn to service others than at an Izakya? And Akane act as enthusiastic about this job as she does Rakugo...maybe a little TOO enthusiastic. At a certain point you just have to calm down, relax, and face the person in front of you to really recognize what they need instead of projecting yourself at them. Miku-chan feels like a good mentor.
How to get the order of someone who only speaks Vietnamese? Pantomime charades of course! Which Akane is surprisingly excellent with!
Time for Akane to flex her training at a new show, courtesy of Kyoji!
Akane-Kobanashi! How hardcore was Master Shiguma's training years that he had to kneel in the middle of the street!?
荒川落語学校、見どころたくさんだね…例えば師匠のシグマが、あの悲劇的な出来事以来会ってなかった新しい弟子の母親に会うために、一人落語で準備するとか。
シグマは6年間アカネをマサキに内緒で指導してきた謝罪の準備万端だったのに、アカネが初日から全部話してたって！親子でストレートすぎるだろ。マサキも、夫を傷つけた業界に娘が入るのは嫌だったけど、アカネが落語家になるのを止められないって認めてる。自分の親が美容師になるのを止められなかったのと同じでね。それに夫がまだシグマ師匠を信頼してるなら、アカネを任せるって。
アカネは高校卒業前に前座になる修行中。先輩や同級生たちと一緒に働くことに。グリコ！コガメはいつもの不安症な小林千晃キャラ！マイケル（島崎信長！）はプレイボーイで、近づきすぎればアカネが自分に落ちると思い込んでる。キョウジ（浅上陽平！）は真面目で几帳面な先輩、アカネに学校のサボりを許さない！自由奔放なギャルには最悪の組み合わせだな。
そして当然、修行ってのは先輩のために雑用を積極的にこなして頭下げること…アカネが本当にやりたいのはハクシュに触発された落語の披露なんだけどね。また披露する機会を得たけど、才能はあるものの、年配の客をせいぜいクスッと笑普通くん+24
ObvsThrowaway5120
Looks like the “official” training has begun for our girl. Interesting putting her up on stage right off the bat like that. I wouldn’t say she totally bombed, but it wasn’t the best set. That and working at the izakaya was a good learning experience.
Btw anyone know what that guy was saying? Thai perhaps?
どうやらあかねの“正式な”修行が始まったようだ。いきなりステージに上げるのは興味深い構成だな。完全に失敗したとは言わないが、ベストな出来ではなかった。居酒屋でのバイトも良い学びになったと思う。
ところで、あの外国人のセリフはタイ語だったのか？誰かわかる人いる？考察くん+19
This-is_CMGRI
Vietnamese.
せやな、いきなり本番ってのがあかねらしいわw 公式の修行スタートって感じやな2ちゃん+26
ObvsThrowaway5120
Ah, cool!
ああ、なるほど！そうなんだね。普通くん+9
popsticks
He was speaking Vietnamese and it was pretty decent too lol
He was asking what the food on the menu was and for recommendations on what to eat.
え、マジで！？ベトナム語話せたのやばくね笑
メニューの料理とかおすすめ聞いてたんだって〜！すごくね？ギャル+21
HolyDragSwd2500
Odd they didn’t translate what he was saying
草、ベトナム語のとこ翻訳すらされなかったのかよwww
なんでやねん、せっかく喋ってるのに意味わからんやんけ2ちゃん+6
Golden_Alchemy
It was better for us, it forced us to think like Akane to try and get the other guy to understand us.
確かに！わざと訳さなかったのも演出って感じで良かったじゃん？こっちが必死に考えさせられる感じがアカネっぽくてやばくね？笑ギャル+28
xDarKraDx
It's been a long time since I heard Vietnamese in anime. Might I interest you to "Ao Dai" in Katanagatari.
せやな、公式の修行スタートって感じやな。いきなり舞台に上げるのアツすぎんか？ワイの心臓もたんわwww2ちゃん+5
Shimmering-Sky
原文
- Nice even if it’s not a *proper* apprenticeship yet.
- lol
- Mm…
- Oh…
- Saying she could skip school sure triggered Kyoji.
- Well, it’s not her first time.
- Ah…
- That’s something she has to keep in mind, huh.
- Um, Akane, you should take a chill pill with the crazy face.
- *That’s* what Akane needed to learn here.
- It’s pretty cute how Akane was able to help the foreigner figure out what he wanted to order by acting out the menu.
うん、まだ正式な弟子入りじゃないけど良かったね。
笑ったわ
うーん…
ああ…
学校サボっていいって言ったら京次がキレたな
まあ、初めてじゃないしね
あ…
それは覚えておかないとな、確かに
あかね、その怖い顔はちょっと控えた方がいいよ
あかねがここで学ぶべきだったのはそれだね
メニューをジェスチャーで伝えて外人の注文を手伝ったあかね、結構可愛かったな普通くん+18
Frontier246
I'm honestly not surprised Akane would skip school for Rakugo. She'd probably be willing to drop out if it meant going pro, but no one in her life will let her do that.
まじでアカネが落語のために学校サボるの、全然驚かないんだけど笑
プロになるためなら中退すら辞さない感じじゃん？でも周りが絶対許してくれないよね〜ギャル+8
bananeeek
Next episode: Akane is going to serve the whole audience!
次回、あかねが観客全員をブッ飛ばすってよwww ガチで楽しみすぎやろ！2ちゃん+14
This-is_CMGRI
this place ain't doin' phrasing these days
最近このサブミ、言い回しがアレだよね普通くん+6
thisisdropd
原文
Just when Akane thought she's safe from Kaisei, turned out one of Shiguma's apprentice was just as much a Casanova as him. Poor girl couldn't escape.
Guriko seemed to be too inexperienced to mentor Akane while another one's looking heaps anxious. Thank god Kyoji's willing to step up to the job. He's as strait-laced as a person could get, as fitting of someone dubbed '*the Magistrate*', to the point of abstaining alcohol even while at a pub.
Everything he tasked Akane seemed nonsense at first glance, from the random chores to assigning her a stint at a pub. However, being in hospitality forced Akane to study her audience/patrons instead of winging it. So far, she paid no heed to her audience, and Kyoji was apt in calling her selfish. In the end, she even pulled a rakugo move at the foreigner to bypass the language barrier.
Can't wait to see how Akane's performance would improve now that she had learnt to tailor her rakugo to her audience. Reckon Kyoji would be proud at her.
あかねが魁成から逃げ切ったと思ったら、志ぐまの弟子も同じく女好きやったんか草。可哀想に逃げ切れへんやん。
栗子は指導にはまだ不慣れで、もう一人は不安げやし。京治が引き受けてくれてマジ助かったわ。あいつは堅物中の堅物で、「大岡」呼ばわりされるのも納得や。酒場におっても酒断つとかガチやろ。
最初は雑用やら酒場勤務とか何の意味があんねん思たけど、接客業で客観察せざるを得なくなったんやな。今まであかんは客のことガン無視やったし、京治の「自分勝手」評は的確やわ。最後は外人に落語の技使って言語の壁乗り越えるとかワロタ。
客に合わせた落語を覚えたあかんの成長が楽しみやな。京治も誇りに思うやろな。2ちゃん+13
This-is_CMGRI
> Guriko seemed to be too inexperienced to mentor Akane while another one's looking heaps anxious. Thank god Kyoji's willing to step up to the job. He's as strait-laced as a person could get, as fitting of someone dubbed 'the Magistrate', to the point of abstaining alcohol even while at a pub.
I love how they all sound so far and can't wait to hear the rest of Akanes ani-deshi talk.
確かに、グリコはあかねを指導するには経験不足だし、もう一人はめっちゃ不安そうだったもんな。キョージが引き受けてくれて助かったよ。彼は「奉行」って呼ばれるのにふさわしい真面目さで、居酒屋でも酒を断るくらいだしね。
今のところ全員のキャラがいい感じで、あかねのアニ弟たちの話をもっと聞くのが楽しみだわ。普通くん+13
Frontier246
I love how Chiaki Kobyashi just can't stop playing socially anxious characters even in a Rakugo anime lol.
草 小林千晃また社会不安キャラかよwww
もうラブコメでも落語アニメでも外さないのガチで草生えるわ2ちゃん+9
HolyDragSwd2500
I gain two nickels today
確かに！笑 小林千晃ってほんと社会不安キャラばっかじゃん？今日だけで二枚もニッケル貯まったわwギャル+6
HotBloodedNinja
IMO, this one job had helped Akane the most in her rakugo.
個人的に、この仕事が赤音の落語にとって一番の成長になったと思う。普通くん+13
eightcheesepizza
Gotta suspend my disbelief that Akane's parents knew all this time and didn't talk to Shiguma once, or tell Akane to give him some money or gifts or something. You guys owe each other 6 years of New Years cards!
確かに「あかねの両親がずっと知ってて一度も志熊に連絡しなかった」って点は現実的じゃないよな。しかもあかねにお金や贈り物を渡すよう言うでもなかったと。6年分の年賀状のやり取りが未消化ってのは、制作陣が意図的に描かなかった伏線かもしれない。時間経過の描写を省略したか、あるいは両親のキャラクター性を後々掘り下げるための布石だと思われる。考察くん+12
YashWarden1769
It's only 3 episodes and we can already see AKANE'S growth. Already looking out to be one of the best female characters currently
もうたったの3話で、あかねの成長がバリバリ見えるんだがッ！今期イチの女性キャラになりそうでしんどい、優勝すぎる感情くん+12
SuperRajio
原文
It was this part of the story that told me we were in for a good ride. Masaki not knowing about Akane's training and protesting could easily have been a point of conflict. Instead, it turns out that Akane has nothing to hide and her mother has no intention of stopping her.
And Akane stopping herself from celebrating was a nice moment, too. Showing that she knows she's just begun her journey. Long may it continue!
この展開で「これはガチでいい話になるわ」って確信したわ。まさきが修行のこと知らなくて反対する→普通なら対立フラグやん？でもあかねは隠し事一切なしで、母親も止める気ゼロってオチ。
あかねが喜ぶのグッとこらえるシーンも良かったンゴ。自分がまだスタート地点に立っただけって自覚してるんやな…長く続いてくれ！2ちゃん+11
Roboglenn
原文
And we start today's episode about the story of a girl who aims to be the best darn storyteller in all the land and rub it in a grumpy old man's face.
> Master, what the heck are you doing?
Practicing being the Pseudo Harem that's what.
Peaches.
Supportive mom. Knows that if she just tried to stop Akane from pursuing this path she'd just resent her for it and just do it anyways. And besides, it's not hard to see the sheer passion she has for it. Not to mention skill. And mom knows her daughter is already in good hands to get her started, which is something significant in and of itself. In the end, mom is comfortable enough and smart enough to figure out to let her daughter have this and try even if she fails than live the rest of her life in bitter resentment.
I remember back when I read this the first time how respectable I thought Kyoji was when he responsibly reared into Akane on the importance of finishing her education. And besides all things considered, it never hurts to have it to fall back on.
A performance can be artistic as a Van Gogh painting but it won't matter how artistic something is if the actual people watching it aren't entertained by it. A performance isn't just about you, it's about them.
今日のエピソードは、この土地で最高の語り手になってやるって意気込む少女が、頑固ジジイに思い知らせてやろうとする話からスタートだな。
「師匠、何やってんすか？」
「疑似ハーレムの練習だよ」ってわけか。
桃か。
母親が理解あるな。無理に止めたら恨まれるってわかってるし、それにあかねの情熱と才能は一目瞭然。それに、もう信頼できる人がついてるのも大きい。結局、母親は賢くて余裕があるから、失敗しても娘にやらせてやろうって決めたんだな。恨み節で人生終わらせるよりマシって判断だ。
初めて読んだ時、京路がちゃんと教育の重要性を説いてたのは立派だと思ったよ。何があっても、逃げ道があるに越したことはないしな。
パフォーマンスはゴッホの絵みたいに芸術的でも、見てる人が楽しめなきゃ意味がない。演じるのは自分だけのためじゃなくて、観客のためなんだよ。普通くん+11
avboden
This really does have a shonen vibe, love it
これマジで少年漫画感あって草、好きやわ2ちゃん+8
runevault
原文
Of course Akane's mother knew. Like she could shut up about training under dad's old master. And glad the other student yelled at her for talking about skipping school.
Oh Akane has so much to learn. If I'm understanding right the point isn't about the chores themselves, it is the chores as a medium to learn to read others to react to them. In a live performance art like Rakugo that lets you adapt on the fly to maximize the audience's enjoyment.
Still eating up the words like she was taught last time. Oh maybe she's starting to realize it as she gets less laughter than she did for Scared of Manju.
This episode has elevated my already high opinion of the show. Exploring more of the entertainer mindset beyond the surface makes it feel so much more authentic. Anxious to see where it goes from here.
Akane Small talk is such a nice ending to the episodes. One last giggle on the way out.
やっぱあかねの母さんは知ってたんだな。父親の師匠の下で修行してた話なんて黙ってられるわけないもんな。学校サボるって話で他の弟子に怒鳴られたのも納得だわ。
あかねにはまだまだ学ぶことが多いね。俺の解釈が正しければ、家事自体が目的じゃなくて、相手を読んで反応する力を身につけるための手段ってことか。落語みたいなライブパフォーマンスだと、臨機応変に合わせて観客を楽しませる必要があるからな。
前回教わった通りに言葉を噛みしめてる感じだな。でも「怖いまんじゅう」の時より笑いが少なくて、ようやく気づき始めてるのかも。
このエピソードで元々高かった評価がさらに上がったよ。芸人の考え方を表面的じゃなく深く掘り下げてて、すごくリアルに感じられる。この先どうなるか楽しみだ。
「あかねのスモールトーク」で毎回エピソードが締めくくられるの最高だな。最後にひと笑いもらえるのがいい。普通くん+5
LoopyChew
Vietnamese, someone mentioned it upthread.
ああ、上で誰かがベトナム語って言ってたやつ！それそれッ！感情くん+8
Pinky_Boy
man, this show is crazily animated. i love watching how akane's hair moved, they looked so fluid
このアニメ、作画やばすぎるだろ。あかねの髪の動きがすごく滑らかで見てて楽しいわ。普通くん+5
Ancient_Breakfast_48
Koguma? Nah he's a guy. All 4 are her "brothers". The other white haired character is a girl. Hikaru.
せやな、コグマは男やで。4人とも彼女の「兄弟」や。もう一人の白髪キャラは女の子でヒカルや。2ちゃん+9
