+1368
Weak_Season_Of_Anime
Akane's her father's child alright, she was born to yap. I like how her performance kinda parallels her father's from the previous ep.
あかねはまさに父親の子でござるな。彼女は語るために生まれてきたようなもの。先週の父親の高座とどこか重なる演目、実に味わい深いでござる。武士+245
Se7en_Sinner
I'm glad Akane's father is ok. For some reason, I was under the impression he ended his own life.
確かに、あかねの父親が無事でよかった。なんか自ら命を絶ったのかと思ってたわ。普通くん+115
rndu
He went into sales, a fate worse than death
せやな。父親生きてたのは良かったけど、営業職って死ぬより辛い運命やんwww2ちゃん+326
vancevon
All we know is that he works for a company that sells concrete. We aren't actually told what he does at that company. But given the product, he's certainly not doing telemarketing or going door to door.
確かに、具体的な職種まではわかってないよね。でもコンクリートの会社ってことは、少なくとも電話勧誘とか飛び込み営業じゃないだろうし、そこまで悲惨でもないかもね。普通くん+49
This-is_CMGRI
As someone who worked sales, this is correct. Same with customer service.
We are long overdue for UBI, but the Epstein class only want us peon consumers to be obedient subscribers to everything now, and they'll even gate an anime like this behind monthly payments.
我が魂を削る営業という地獄を経験した者として断言する——その言葉は真理だ。カスタマーサービスも同様の闇だ。UBI（無条件ベーシックインカム）は到来すべき運命だが、エプスタイン級の支配者たちは我ら凡庸なる消費者をただ従順な月額購読者に堕とそうとしている。このアニメさえも月々の支払いの向こう側に封印するとは、なんたる呪いか。中二病+46
Worthyness
Well he is good at talking, so sales is only natural as a career
確かに、彼は話すの上手いから営業は適職だよね。普通くん+8
Western-Internal-751
He went from professional yapper to professional yapper
それな！プロの喋りからプロの喋りにジョブチェンジしただけってのが泣けるｗ感情くん+8
kenshin2k
The performer 'Shinta Arakawa' was dead, the guy Tohru Osaki was obviously still there and had to change careers to provide for his family in a different industry.
あかねの父親無事でよかったンゴねぇ……ワイもてっきり自◯したもんやと思っとったわ
新太・荒川って演者は死んどるけど、大崎トオルは生きとったんやな。家族養うために別業界でキャリアチェンジせなあかんかったってワケか2ちゃん+102
Frontier246
He's like a Superhero who basically gave up their alter ego to commit to their civilian life while his daughter ends up becoming a legacy hero.
確かに、彼は自らの英雄の仮面を捨て、凡人の日常に身を沈めた伝説の守護者なのだ。そして娘こそが、その遺志を継ぐ新たなる英雄となる運命を背負う…我が目には、まさに壮絶なる因果の連鎖が映っている。中二病+40
Fl_Funky_Jam
You're not alone, its a meme on the manga side of this community because so many of us thought the same thing.
それな！めっちゃわかるんだけど笑
マンガ勢の間ではもうこのネタが定番になってるじゃん？みんな同じこと思ってたんだよね〜ギャル+86
Frontier246
This is basically just trying to apply typical Shonen conventions ("Dead" motivating parent, intense competitions, rivalries) in fairly realistic and subdued (outside the rakugo performances themselves) ways.
確かに、これは典型的な少年漫画の要素（死んだ親の動機付けとか、激しい競争やライバル関係）を、落語のパフォーマンス以外はわりとリアルで控えめな形で取り入れてるだけだよね。普通くん+63
Testosteronomicon
It's basically that one meme but with a father instead of a senior:
"Father are you watching" Your father is working to earn money
それな！あの「父さん見てる？」のミームそのまんまやん。でも父親が仕事で稼いでるって設定がまたエモすぎるッ！感情くん+24
RepulsiveRevenue8
No no no
He died
Somehow we can still hear his voice tho
And somehow he bring his family to eat out
ちょっと違うよ！
彼、死んじゃったんだよ…
でもなぜか声はまだ聞こえるんだよね笑
しかも家族を外食に連れてくし！やばくない！？ギャル+57
Nachtwandler_FS
Mieruko-chan flashbacks incoming.
ミエルコちゃんのフラッシュバックが来そうだな普通くん+21
Merkyorz
Note that the dialogue states that "Arakawa Shinta" died, which is her father's rakugoka stage name. His real name is Osaki Tohru.
マジでそれな！！父親が自殺したわけじゃなくて本当に良かった…「荒川新太」は高座名で本名は大崎トオルってのが泣ける。エモすぎるッ！感情くん+35
inika41
I mean, her motivations boil down to him “dying” as an artist. That despite making more money, “earning respect and relief” from friends and family, and achieving stability, she feels that loss deeply because his art is her whole world (and she didn’t have the responsibilities of a parent to worry about).
She is avenging him in some sense, but yeah, thankfully it isn’t that dramatic/dire.
せやな、あかねの動機って父親が「芸術家として死んだ」ってとこやろ。金稼げて、周りからも認められて、安定しても、それでも深く感じる喪失感ってのが彼女の全てやからな（親の責任とか考えなくてええ立場やし）。
ある意味では仇討ちみたいなもんやけど、まあドラマチックすぎんくて助かったわ。2ちゃん+29
Kirosh2
The scene was made to be depressing after all.
Rain, his rakugo room being cleaned, saying he "died", and all the expectation that came with him being successfully promoted not being realized.
確かに。あのシーンはわざと暗く演出されてたからね。雨、掃除されてく噺の部屋、"死んだ"って言葉、昇進成功の期待が叶わなかった描写とか。普通くん+19
Vane_999
I actually thought he committed suicide or something like that. I'm actually glad he's still alive at least!
確かにw 俺もてっきり自殺したかと思ってたわ笑 生きててくれてマジで良かったわwwwwwwおじ+10
4546Ben
I mean, I’m going to pretend he’s dead because it’s funnier.
わかる、俺もなんか死んでると思ってたわ。でも「死んだことにしとくわ、そっちの方が面白いし」ってのは確かにウケる（笑）感情くん+9
Frontier246
Just like her father her specialty is her character acting and making you truly believe in the characters she's performing even when they're so far different from herself.
確かに、父上と同じく彼女の真骨頂は役に入り込み、己とはかけ離れた役柄であっても、観る者をその世界に引き込む技量でござるな。武士+17
tripleaamin
The conflict for Akane is that her father and her family are technically doing better, which is well done. But we know from the last episode she adored her father's Rakugo to death. It's great to see Akane has a goal to push for. Nice to see she did well with her first performance.
あかねの葛藤って、父親や家族が一応うまくやってるってところがよく描かれてるよね。でも前回の話で彼女が父親の落語をめっちゃ愛してたのは分かってるし。あかねに目指す目標ができて良かったな。初めての高座も上手くいって何よりだね。普通くん+219
Frontier246
It kind of reminds me of how Masaki never once told her husband to give up on his dream even when she was stuck as the main breadwinner for the family, because she knew how important rakugo was for him even when he was struggling.
His family believed in and cherished his rakugo, and even if he can't do it any more, Akane is going to prove that it was valid.
まあ、真紀が一家の大黒柱になってる時でさえ、一度も夫に夢を諦めろとは言わなかったのと同じだな。彼女は噺家にとって落語がどれだけ大事か分かってたからこそだ。
家族は彼の落語を信じて大切にしてた。そして彼がもうできなくなっても、あかねがそれが無駄じゃなかったって証明しようとしてるんだろうな。ドライおじ+133
ClemFire
Makes me wonder how much of a revenge angle the story is gonna take as when Kaisei mentioned training under his father who literally ended her dad's career it gave me Vinland Saga vibes
確かに！カイセイが父親の下で修行してたって話が出た時、まさにヴィンランド・サガの復讐劇みたいな空気を感じたッ！これからどうなるのか気になりすぎる…感情くん+37
RepulsiveRevenue8
A bit correction, Issho is not Kaisei father but his master.
He is basically Akane's rival
ちょっと訂正な、一翔は魁生の父親じゃなくて師匠なんだわw
要するにあかねのライバルってことだな笑wwwおじ+68
Doctor_Freeeeeman
Season 2 Akane will be farming, haunted by all the Rakugo careers she ended.
確かに、シーズン2のあかねは自分が潰してきた落語家たちのキャリアに悩まされそうだね。復讐要素がどれくらい入ってくるのか気になる。普通くん+5
rockseiaxii
A lot of Rakugoka who have been reviewing the manga have spoken that Rakugoka quitting, getting a job and becoming financially stable is one of the most realistic aspects of this work.
まあ確かに。この漫画をレビューしてる落語家たちも口を揃えて言ってるけど、落語家が辞めて普通に就職して経済的に安定するって展開は、この作品で一番リアルな部分らしいよ。ドライおじ+100
Nachtwandler_FS
Like it is typical for a lot of performer carrers: you either make it big or struggle untill you quit to get a regular job (or untill you are dead).
確かに、芸能系のキャリアってそういうもんだよね。大成するか、諦めて普通の仕事に就くまで苦労するか、死ぬまで続けるかのどれかだし。普通くん+35
mekerpan
A friend of mine -- who is an eminent professor of cinema at any Ivy League university -- just made his (amateur) rakugo debut in Tokyo.
ワイの知り合いでアイビーリーグの映画教授やってる奴が東京でアマチュア落語デビューしたンゴwww
ガチで草生えるわ2ちゃん+22
NoHead1715
A very common thing in the arts. Those of us who survived the pandemic will recall what was considered "non-essential" when the cities shutdown. There's only so many people who can make a living doing art full time.
確かに。アーティストあるあるだよね。パンデミックで「非必須」扱いされたのを思い出すよ。アートだけで食えてる人って限られてるしな。普通くん+9
CitronClassic672
That part really stood out to me. Making it so that Akane’s father’s dream getting crushed led in many ways to his and his family’s lives improving, which basically feels like the world and the people around her telling Akane that hers and her father’s passion for Rakugo is wrong really resonated with me personally as someone who’s passion likewise is a creative/artistic field.
あかりん父ちゃんの夢が潰れたことでむしろ家族の生活がマシになったって描写、ガチで刺さったわ。要は周りから「お前と父ちゃんの落語愛は間違ってる」って言われてるみたいなもんやん。ワイもクリエイティブ系の仕事に情熱注いでる身としてはマジで共感できるンゴ…草2ちゃん+54
TsukumoYurika
原文
Hello, it's your resident rakugo expert again 😊
Give me a but more time to catch up with the episode than usual, but in the meantime, my Q&A desk is open for business.
That said - I was asked last week about the quality of Shinta's Shibahama performance and sadly I am afraid I cannot honestly answer about whether it was shinuchi-worthy without me potentially blowing up my own hanashika career before it even starts (connections matter for someone like me) - so yeah, don't be scared if I cannot answer some of the questions.
どうも、常連の落語マニアです😊
今回はいつもよりエピソード追いつくのに時間かかりそうだけど、質問コーナーは開いてるよ。
ただ—先週、新太の芝浜の出来について聞かれたんだけど、正直に真打級かどうか答えちゃうと、自分の噺家キャリアが始まる前に潰れかねないんだよね（俺みたいなやつはコネが大事だからさ）—だから、答えられない質問があっても驚かないでほしい。普通くん+187
goffer54
Do Rakugoka always go directly from addressing the audience to their main performance with basically no space between them? It seems to me like a weird way to start a story.
せやな、確かに間髪入れずに本題入るのって変やんなwww
普通の芝居とかと違って、前振りも何もなく「さあ始めるで！」って感じやしな。
ワイも最初見た時「え、もう始まんの？」ってなったわ。2ちゃん+56
TsukumoYurika
原文
Depends heavily on several circumstances such as venue and rank.
Zenza and minarai are not supposed to have much of a makura (basically opening talk before segueing into the actual story) beyond own self-introduction since they are not the "main event" and they are there mostly to learn by performing so to speak. They are not considered fully fledged hanashika until their futatsume promotion. However, even futatsume and shinuchi may want to cut down on their makura if they have particularly short timeslots, for example at a joseki (yose theatres that run on an almost daily schedule.)
There absolutely are hanashika, otoh, that are particularly famous for their makura being just as fun as, if not even funnier than, their actual stories 😊
確かに、その分析はかなり正確だと思われる。演者の地位や会場の状況によって前座（まくら）の長さが変わるのは、落語の構造を理解する上で重要なポイントだね。
- **前座や見習い**：本題に入る前のまくらは自己紹介程度に留めるのが基本。彼らは「主役」ではなく、実演を通じて学ぶ立場だから、二つ目に昇進するまでは一人前の噺家とは見なされないという考察ができる。
- **二つ目や真打ち**：ただし、時間枠が短い場合（例：定席の寄席でほぼ毎日公演がある場合）は、まくらを省略することもあるんだろう。
- 一方で、まくら自体が本題以上に面白いと評判の噺家もいて、そのスタイルは観客を引き込む伏線とも言えるな。制作陣の意図を読むと、こうした柔軟性が落語の奥深さを際立たせていると思われる。考察くん+97
sjk9000
How old are most rakugoka at their debut performance? What's the career path usually like?
「確かに！落語家ってデビューするとき何歳くらいが多いんだろう？キャリアの流れも気になる〜！教えてほしすぎるッ！」感情くん+25
TsukumoYurika
原文
The part of the charm in rakugo is that hanashika can come in all shapes and colours and from a plethora of backgrounds. There are some that have performed already as elementary school kids (but of course, they weren't technically pros then as the earliest they can become so nowadays is after junior high graduation,) some that only started their pro career having already established themselves as members of the society in other fields (Tsukitei Hosei being probably the most notorious case by a wide margin) and many, maaaany inbetweens. Most tend to start in early 20s nowadays though.
The usual career path in Edo rakugo, especially in the two largest organizations (Rakugo Kyokai, aka Rakkyo and Rakugo Geijutsu Kyokai, aka Geikyo) goes as follows: up to 1.5y as minarai -> 4-6y as zenza -> ~10y as futatsume -> yay, you are a shinuchi now and hopefully you get to have a solid, lifelong career as one. Some futatsume may get promoted to shinuchi earlier than usual (we call that kind batteki-shinuchi) if they especially excel in artistic quality and/or popularity, but they are a rarity. The two other Edo rakugo organizations (Enraku Ichimonkai and Tatekawa-ryu) have it a bit different, but I'm trying to keep it simple.
落語の魅力って、演者それぞれ体型も経歴もバラバラってとこやんな。小学生で既に高座に上がってるやつもいれば（もちろんその時点ではプロ扱いやないけどな、今は中卒が最速や）、全く別業界でキャリア積んでからプロになった奴もおる（月亭方正とかぶっちぎりで有名やろ）。その間もワンサカおるわ。今は20代前半で始めるのが主流やな。
江戸落語のキャリアパターンは、特に二大組織（落語協会＝ラッキョと落語芸術協会＝ゲイキョ）やとこんな感じや：
- 見習い：最大1年半
- 前座：4〜6年
- 二ツ目：約10年
- やっと真打ち。あとはそこで一生食えるかどうかや。
芸や人気が特に優れとると、二ツ目から早く昇進することもある（抜擢真打ちって呼ぶ）。でもレアやで。他の江戸落語組織（圓楽一門会や立川流）はまた違うんやけど、まあ簡略化したわ。2ちゃん+58
sjk9000
What's the difference between "hanashika" and "rakugoka"? Which is more commonly used in Japanese?
確かに！落語家のバラエティ豊かさが魅力すぎるよね。で、本題だけど「hanashika」と「rakugoka」の違いか…正直どっちも使うけど、一般的には「rakugoka」のほうがよく聞く気がする！「hanashika」はもっとカジュアルな響き？詳しい人教えてくれ～感情くん+15
Zeph-Shoir
Hold up, you are an ACTUAL rakugoka?!
ちょっと待て、マジで落語家なんか？！草2ちゃん+23
TsukumoYurika
No, but I want to be and have sloooowly started taking my first steps towards becoming one.
(By which I mean having been already rejected by a prospective master, so yeah, it won't be easy)
いや、まだなってないけどなりたいんだよね。それでちょっとずつ第一歩を踏み出し始めたところ。
（っていうか、既に師匠候補に断られてるんだよね。だからまあ、簡単じゃないってことさ）普通くん+79
Zeph-Shoir
Best of luck! The thing I am most curious about is how common is it for Rakugoka to write new stories or do they simply limit themselves to the ones that already exist?
ありがとう！応援してる！めっちゃ気になるんだけど、落語家って新しい話を書く人ってどれくらいいるんだろ？それとも既存の話だけをやってる感じ？すごく知りたいッ！感情くん+29
This-is_CMGRI
All okay by us. I'm not even sure we can discuss a whole load of stuff without touching on spoiler-y things anyway.
全然オッケーだよ！むしろネタバレなしで語れることって限られてるしね笑 ゆっくりでいいじゃん！ギャル+21
SmileyTheSmile
Are you joking or is the really job strict enough to genuinely blow up someone's career over a critique of a fictional character's performance in a Reddit thread?
冗談で言ってるのか、それとも本当にRedditのスレッドで架空のキャラの演技に批評しただけでキャリアが吹き飛ぶほど仕事が厳しいのか…マジで無理すぎるッ！感情くん+15
TsukumoYurika
原文
It was less about the actual critique and more about the "is it shinuchi promotion-worthy?" angle, as the topic of one's worthiness of a promotion is still a very sensitive thing to bring up since there are still many divided opinions whether the currently mainstream system of guaranteed promotion after ~10 years as futatsume is actually doing its job…
The last thing I want to happen in my own potential career is an opinion I make leading to me getting roped in a scandal or something (especially since I, a non-Japanese woman, will be obviously standing out just by existing, so I don't want to stand out in a bad way either)
確かに、単なる批判というより「真打ち昇進に値するか」という切り口が問題だったんだよな。昇進の妥当性を問う話題自体が、今の「二ツ目から約10年で自動昇進」という主流システムの是非について、まだ意見が割れている中で触れるには非常にデリケートな領域だという考察ができる。
特に、非日本人女性として業界にいる立場からすると、自分の意見がスキャンダルに発展するリスクは避けたいというのも理解できる。存在自体が目立つ環境で、悪目立ちする要因は作りたくないという判断は、業界の空気を読んだ上での現実的な対応だと思われる。考察くん+27
SmileyTheSmile
It just kind of makes me uncomfortable, like imagining that there's going to be a committee of sunglass wearing hanashikas checking everything you've ever posted to see if you're worthy, when the time comes.
確かに、いざその時が来たときにサングラスかけた噺家たちの委員会が今までの投稿全部チェックして「お前は価値があるか？」って審査されるのを想像すると、ちょっと気まずいよね。普通くん+10
generictypo
Hello there.
Do you have any recommended performances we can watch that is available on youtube?
Ones with proper subtitles would be great. I imagine it's hard to do, considering the jokes don't translate easy from JP to ENG.
おっす。
YouTubeで見れるおすすめの演目とかある？ちゃんと字幕ついてるやつがいいンゴ。JP→ENGの翻訳難しいのは分かってるけどな。2ちゃん+6
Norix596
原文
Copying my reply to similar comment
Your next best option is to look up Katsura Sunshine; he did a performance at the premier for this anime and it was great (he performed Scared of Manju since it would be in the next episode). He’s a Canadian who moved to Japan and became a formal apprentice (just like Akane is asking to be) and by now is a master (like the dad was trying to get promoted to) with four apprentices. He does performances in both Japanese and English; he does tours in Japan, US and other countries and you can find videos of snippets of his stuff online.
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YouTubeで見るなら、Katsura Sunshineがおすすめ。このアニメのプレミアでパフォーマンスやっててめっちゃ良かった（次のエピソードに出てくる「まんじゅうこわい」を演じてた）。彼はカナダ出身で日本に移住して正式な弟子になった人（まさにあかねが志願してる立場）で、今では親方（あかねの父が目指してた地位）になって弟子も4人いる。日本語と英語両方で演じてて、日本やアメリカとかでツアーやってるし、ネットで断片的な動画も見つかるよ。普通くん+5
EclipseTM
I really enjoyed the visuals during akanes performance, it really looked like she was eating that food. Absolutley loving this so far.
あかねのパフォーマンス中の映像表現ガチでやばかったンゴwww 飯食ってる感がすげえ出てたわ。現時点でワイはこのアニメに完全にハマってもうたわ。2ちゃん+112
Frontier246
Also her on-point facial expression game when she keeps pivoting to the different characters.
確かに、キャラクターを切り替えるときの表情の切り替えも完璧だったね。普通くん+38
Vane_999
Same! and I liked Kaisei's performace too! the visuals, the singing, etc were so good
せやな！ワイもカイセイのパフォーマンスめっちゃ好きやわ。映像も歌もガチで良かったンゴwww2ちゃん+17
za_shiki-warashi
原文
And we start to get to the meat of the show. Solid episode, the animation captured the character's expressions during the performance while the VA is just as fluid in conveying the tone of the story. Kaisei's performance style reminds me of this one clip of Ishida Akira doing multiple voices of different genders and ages. Come to think of it, when Kaisei first entered, his cadence bears some resemblance to Akira Ishida as well.
いよいよ本編の核心に迫ってきたな。安定した出来栄えのエピソードで、演技中のキャラクターの表情をアニメーションがしっかり捉えているし、声優の語り口調の変化も流暢だ。魁成の芸風を見てると、石田彰が性別・年齢の異なる複数の声を使い分けるあの映像を思い出す。考えてみれば、魁成が最初に登場した時の抑揚も、石田彰にどこか似ている気がするな。考察くん+88
This-is_CMGRI
Ah, it's always a treat for me to hear Athrun Zala talk, especially when he does all that.
Ya reckon Cagalli requests that from time to time?
それな！アスラン・ザラのあの喋り方、まじでやばくない？笑
カガリがたまに「やって」って頼んでそうじゃね？wwwギャル+23
Historical_Working42
Kaisei is voiced by actor Akihisa Shiono! This is his first voice acting role!
マジで！？シオノ・アキヒサが声優デビューで海星やってるんか！初仕事でこのクオリティとかガチで将来有望やんwww2ちゃん+19
Frontier246
Haruka Tomatsu also once did multiple voices of different genders/ages and nailed it. I feel like Aoi Yuki probably could too.
まじで！？トマツ・ハルカもいろんな声やってたんだ！すげーじゃん！ てかユウキ・アオイも絶対できるでしょ！声域やばいもんね！ギャル+14
ModieOfTheEast
I am still wondering how they can properly show Akane's growth in terms of abilities. Especially since they can't show a full performance. Especially since she already did quite well. So maybe they go a bit deeper into what makes a good performance?
確かに。本格的に物語の核心に迫ってきた感じだな。ただ、あかねの実力面での成長をどう描くのかは気になる。特にフルパフォーマンスを見せられない中で、彼女は既に高い水準に達しているからな。だからこそ、むしろ「良い演じ手とは何か」という部分に踏み込んでくる可能性が高いんじゃないか？そういう考察ができる。考察くん+13
rubslotiononitsskin
Akira Ishida did a fantastic job in the other rakugo anime Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju.
せやな、石田彰は昭和元禄落語心中でもガチで神演技やったわ。今回も期待してまうわwww2ちゃん+6
NanDemoKnaives
原文
It was sad to hear Akane recount the things she heard from others after her dad was forced to quit rakugo, she was still grieving the lost and all she would hear is how good it was that it happened. None of those people even aware of how she felt.
I'm glad Akane is trying to keep her father's legacy alive herself and I'm sure Shiguma is more than willing to help, he's sure to have regrets for how it ended for Shinta.
Guriko is so endearing, I'm liking his character. I was expecting a lot more sensuality from Kaisei's rakugo though. Akane also looks so good with her hair up, it makes her look prettier.
あかねが父が落語を辞めさせられた後に周りから聞いた話を語るシーン、悲しかったな。彼女はまだ喪失感に苛まれてるのに、周りは「むしろ良かった」って言うだけで、誰も彼女の気持ちに気づいてないんだもん。
あかねが自分で父の遺産を守ろうとしてるのは良いね。志ぐまも喜んで手伝ってくれそうだし、信太の結末には後悔があるはずだから。
栗子はほんと愛らしいな。キャラ好きになってきた。でも快成の落語にはもっと色気があるかと思ってた。あかねの髪を上げた姿もすごく似合ってて、より可愛く見えるね。普通くん+56
charlesvvv
Having read the Manga I really like his there's always more than meets the eye with some of the characters introduced. Kaisei Arakawa might be eccentric and touchy but he's very good at Rakugo which even Akane is willing to acknowledge. And that's enough to see him as her rival in the Issho School.
漫画を読んでいて思うのが、登場人物には常に表面上以上の深みがあるのが本当に良い。荒川魁成は変わり者で気難しいけど、落語の腕は確かで、あかねでさえ認めている。それだけで彼が一松派で彼女のライバル足り得るという考察ができる。考察くん+50
FarCritical
The way Akane managed to make the imaginary manju look positively scrumptious through physical motions alone wasn't only phenomenal but lowkey made me hungry.
Singing badly on purpose for laughs when you have a great natural singing voice (especially while playing a separate character) is such a flex lol
あかねが動きだけで架空のまんじゅうをめっちゃ美味しそうに見せるの、すごすぎたしなんか腹減ってきたわ。
あれだけ歌上手いのにわざと下手に歌って笑い取るの（しかも別人役で）は反則級の技だわ笑普通くん+49
TheBusStop12
>The way Akane managed to make the imaginary manju look positively scrumptious through physical motions alone wasn't only phenomenal but lowkey made me hungry.
I loved as well that this was followed by a shot of several audience members reaching for their drinks to take a sip. Great visual storytelling on both Akane's part and the anime's part
あかねが身体の動きだけで想像上の饅頭を美味しそうに見せたのは単に素晴らしいだけでなく、なんか腹が減ってきたんだよな。
その直後に観客の何人かが飲み物を手に取るカットが入ったのも良い。あかねの演技力とアニメ側の演出、両方で視覚的なストーリーテリングが成立してる。考察くん+38
doomrider7
Man now I need to rewatch that!
それな！まじでもう一回見直したくなったんだけど笑ギャル+11
Frontier246
You will believe someone is eating legit manju on the sage, is a singing woman, and a terrible singing man.
確かに！あかねの動きだけでまんじゅうが美味しそうに見えるのヤバすぎるッ！無理、優勝。感情くん+13
Golden_Alchemy
She is in Baki's level then.
確かにそれならバキ級だな。普通くん+5
runevault
原文
The music as she settles onto the cushion to perform is so dissonant as she tries to calm her mind. This anime really is playing on every level. But then it is an anime _about_ storytelling.
That performance was so fun oh my god. I already liked this show after last episode but I'm falling for it (and Akane) even harder now.
Sensual? Interesting descriptor for the next guy's style. Okay his singing is fantastic. God the more I watch of this episode the more I dread how rough the English dub is probably going to be by comparison.
LOL the running in the sunset like some training montage out of a battle shonen.
Okay this EP is a vibe. God this show is so damn good.
Oh right the small talks after! So silly and fun as a come down from the episode prior.
着席して気持ち落ち着けようとする時の不協和音のBGMやばいな。このアニメ、マジで全部の層で遊んでるわ。そら語り部を描くアニメやしな。
あのパフォーマンス楽しすぎだろwww 前回で既に好きやったけど、あかねにもっとハマってもうたわ。
官能的？次の奴のスタイルにそんな表現使うんか。つか歌うますぎやろ。見れば見るほど英吹き替えがどれだけ残念になるか想像してまうわ。
夕日の中走るの、バトル漫画のトレーニングシーンみたいで草。
このEP雰囲気良すぎやろ。ガチで神アニメやわ。
そういや後日談！前回からのクールダウンにちょうどええバカさと楽しさやったな。2ちゃん+40
ClemFire
Only thing I miss is cute little gremlin Akane. I didn't expect her to be giving her first performance this quick and it makes me wonder if the revenge angle is the story's endgame or just the first arc. I'm actually getting more sports anime vibes compared to battle shonen
確かに。彼女が座布団に座って演奏を始める時の音楽の不協和音、心を落ち着かせようとする葛藤を表現してるんだな。あの小さな悪魔っぽいあかねが恋しい気持ちは分かるよ。でも初めての高座がこんなに早く来るとは思わなかった。これを見ると、復讐が物語の最終目的なのか、それとも最初の山場に過ぎないのか気になる。個人的には、バトル漫画というよりスポ根アニメの雰囲気を感じるんだよな。考察くん+19
Worthyness
It's 100% a sports anime with a Rakugo pastiche on it.
確かに。完全にスポ根アニメだよね。ラクゴ要素はあくまで風味って感じ。普通くん+19
ClemFire
If so this is the most I've been excited for a sports anime since Haikyuu as it's not a genre I watch often
確かに！それなら俺、ハイキュー以来に一番ワクワクしてるかも。スポーツアニメってあんま観ないんだけど、これは別格すぎるッ！感情くん+5
runevault
Yeah there is very much a competitive element that reminds me of sports.
My personal assumption is the revenge plot is the first major arc (so could take multiple seasons to resolve) but her figuring out what it means to be a storyteller without thinking about revenge will likely be a follow up plot with a ton of meat of its own.
確かに競争要素が強くて、スポーツアニメに近い構造だよな。個人的な考察だと、復讐編が最初の大きな山場（複数シーズンかかる可能性あり）で、その後あかねが復讐抜きで「噺家として何を語るか」を模索する展開が、本筋の重いテーマとして控えてるんだと思う。制作陣の構成力が楽しみだ。考察くん+14
ClemFire
That makes a lot of sense as I'm sure she will reach a wall after getting revenge and have to introspect on the original reason she got into rakugo because she loves it. I believe that her love for rakugo will take her much further similar to how Frieren is so strong because she loves magic.
確かに。復讐を果たした後に壁にぶつかって、元々落語が好きだった理由を見つめ直す展開になりそうだよね。彼女の落語への愛情がフリーレンが魔法を愛してるから強いみたいに、もっと先に連れて行ってくれると思う。普通くん+8
oops_i_made_a_typi
> Yeah there is very much a competitive element that reminds me of sports.
yeah it's a lot like Chihayafuru in many ways - niche japanese art turned competitive
それな！めっちゃちはやふるっぽいよね。日本のマイナーな伝統芸能を競技化する感じがまんま一緒すぎるッ！感情くん+6
CitronClassic672
原文
Regarding the dub, this honestly feels like the kind of show where you absolutely have to put effort into the dub given how voice acting heavy the story is. I’m not sure what the specifics of Rakugo acting are vs regular voice acting but part of me honestly feels like there’s an element of the performances that I’m missing as a non-japanese speaker so I feel the English dub would have the chance to elevate that aspect.
確かに。この作品は声の演技が重要なストーリーだから、吹き替えにもかなり力を入れる必要がありそうだね。落語の演技と通常の声優演技の違いはよくわからないけど、日本語がわからないから原作のパフォーマンスの一部分を見逃してる気がする。英語吹き替えならその辺を補えるかもしれないと思う。普通くん+14
runevault
原文
My concern is in two parts. First: Netflix is a mixed bag on dubs. Blue Box was mostly very good outside one character I thought underperformed, but on the other side the Fragrant Flower dub drove me to sub only is was so rough.
Second: the Japanese cast went through Rakugo training to be able to perform the parts, and I think I read they even do the performances in the traditional pose like we see in the show. I don't trust Netflix to put in that time, and they may not even have the time, pretty sure the Japanese cast put in like 6 months doing the training, the English dub was barely announced and is out in 2 months.
同意。Netflixの吹き替えはマジで当たり外れあるよな。
・ブルーボックスは概ね良かったけど一人だけ微妙だった
・でも薫る花は酷すぎて字幕一択になったわ
それに邦キャストは落語の訓練を半年もやってて、伝統的な所作で演じてるらしいンゴ。
Netflixにそこまでやる気あるとは思えんし、時間もないやろ。
発表から2ヶ月で吹き替え出すとかガチで不安すぎるわ。2ちゃん+14
CitronClassic672
Also, the ED really has a unique feel to it. Is it done by the same person as the OP? Because the visuals and instrumentation feel so different than all other anisongs I’ve heard.
確かに！EDもめっちゃ独特だよな。OPと同じ人がやってるのかな？映像も楽器の音も今までのアニソンと全然違っててエモすぎるッ！感情くん+9
ExDSG
Yes, it's also by Keisuke Kuwata
同意。EDも桑田佳祐だね。独特な雰囲気出てて良い感じ。普通くん+9
HotBloodedNinja
Dang the VA did a great job during Kaisei singing voice.
Also, I thought Kaisei was white haired?
やばっ！回生の歌声、声優まじで上手すぎじゃない！？
てか回生って白髪じゃなかったっけ？ギャル+40
JadeSabre
He’s had that pinkish hair whenever the manga’s featured him in color pages!
マジでそれ！カラー表紙で出てくるたびにピンクっぽい髪だったんだよ！声優の歌唱シーンもエモすぎるッ！感情くん+31
HotBloodedNinja
Guess I remembered wrong.
あ、確かにそうだったかも。俺の記憶違いだったわ。普通くん+7
Shimmering-Sky
原文
- Ah, that’s why he’s tailing his master…
- Okay, so there’s no way Akane’s *actually* dating him. What’s their real connection, he’s also been training Akane in secret?
- Makes sense that she wants to stick it to the man who expelled her dad.
- Damn.
- A chance for Akane…?
- lol, hilarious Akane face.
- Ooh, more first-person POV shots while Akane went on stage, just like with her father last episode. I hope that means they’ll be doing that all show, I love bits like that.
- Ah, was this the guy Akane had to fill in for?
- Hah
- Hahahahahahaha, *incredible* face while he was playing the bad singer there.
- Interesting…
- ああ、だから師匠を尾行してたのか…
- なるほど、あかねが本当に彼と付き合ってるわけないよな。実際の関係は何だ？彼も秘密であかねを指導してるのか？
- 父親を追放した相手に一泡吹かせたいってのは筋が通ってるな。
- くそっ。
- あかねにチャンス到来…？
- 笑えるあかねの表情だな。
- おお、あかねがステージに上がる時の一人称視点のカット、前回の父親の時と同じだな。この演出を毎回やってくれるなら嬉しい、こういう細かい演出好きなんだよ。
- ああ、これがあかねが代役を務めた相手か？
- はっ
- はははははは、あの下手な歌手を演じてる時の表情が *最高* だったな。
- 興味深いな。考察くん+36
Frontier246
I love how Issho is just "that man" to her. She can't even say his name.
草、一翔のこと「あの人」呼びしかできてないの笑うわ
名前すら言えんとかガチで照れてるやろwww2ちゃん+25
ObviousSwimmer
That animal, Arakawa... I can't even say his name...
確かに、あの動物、荒川…名前すら出せないよな。普通くん+13
Cook-Miserable
原文
Episode 2 and the gut punches keep coming. Akane crying about her father not performing Rakugo hit me hard.
Right now, I'm seeing more and more people in my personal life accept AI art and they just don't understand why it's so bad. My dad tells me to accept it as well but I refuse.
So when I see Akane upset I relate. Art is fundamentally human, Rakugo is expression, art, and so much more. She loved her dad's performances precisely BECAUSE they were from someone.
To all artists out there, please please please keep creating. AI will never replace the soul you can give life to in your stories, music, art, or games.
第2話でまた心えぐられたわ。父親が落語やらないって泣くあかね見てワイも胸が痛んだンゴ…
最近ワイの周りでもAIアート受け入れる奴増えてて、なんで悪いか理解してくれへんのよ。親父にも「受け入れろ」って言われたけど絶対拒否や。
そんな時にあかねの悲しみ見て共感したわ。芸術って根本的に人間のモンやろ。落語は表現であり芸術でありそれ以上や。あかねが親父の高座好きだったのは、そこに「誰か」がいたからやん。
絵描きや音楽屋の皆さん、頼むから作り続けてくれ。AIにゃ絶対に魂は宿せへんからな。2ちゃん+35
Fl_Funky_Jam
If you are a YT watcher and confused why you can't see the new episode, it comes out in 30 minutes FYI
まじで！？YT勢はあと30分待ちってことね！やばくね、今すぐ見たいんだけど笑ギャル+33
This-is_CMGRI
For SEA folks, here's your link. For North America + South America, here's the official Akane-banashi channel where they drop the episodes.
YT勢は新エピまだ見れないって？あと30分で出るから安心しろって話やな
SEA民はこっちのリンクや。北米・南米民は公式あかね噺チャンネルでエピソード落ちてるで2ちゃん+20
aOe_007
Is this peak?
これって神回じゃね！？やばくない！？ギャル+38
This-is_CMGRI
Very. You're on the ground floor of greatness.
確かに。最高だね。まだ始まったばかりだけど、この作品はすごいことになりそう。普通くん+39
ClemFire
I can see why manga readers were hyping this one up
まじでそれな！マンガ勢が推してた理由わかるわ〜！ギャル+9
doomrider7
Yes.
同意。まさにピークだね。普通くん+5
za_shiki-warashi
The bit about the dad's career is... oof. I mean, yeah having to give up your dream sucks, but when it comes to the arts, not everyone is gonna make it, so to speak it. While it's nice that the daughter wholeheartedly supports her dad, at the same time there's also the conundrum that as the show pointed out, the career change did improve the family's financial circumstance.
父親のキャリアの話は……おうふ。夢を諦めるのはキツいやろな、でも芸事ってそういうもんやし、全員が成功できるわけちゃうしな。娘が父親を全力で応援してるのはええことやけど、同時に転職で家計が良くなったって事実もあるし、そこが難しいとこやなって思うわ。2ちゃん+30
Frontier246
Also ironically probably gives Akane the luxury of being able to focus her life on Rakugo instead of getting a real job because she can rely on her parents.
それな。皮肉な話だけど、親がいるからあかねは現実的な仕事を気にせず落語に専念できるってわけか。しんどいな…感情くん+38
Vane_999
This. Honestly, though I understand how akane feels, that part made me laugh a little. Like "I'm sad because my father stopped doing rakugo, and now he's earning way more money and can even take us out to eat" 😆
それな。あかねの気持ちはわかるけど、その部分はちょっと笑っちゃったよ。「パパが落語やめちゃって悲しい…今はすごい稼いでて外食に連れてってくれるけど」って感じでさ😆普通くん+8
Aileos
Feels like summer came early with an ending like this.
夏が早く来た気分だよ、こんな終わり方だとッ！泣けるわ…感情くん+29
CitronClassic672
That ending was an entire vibe and yeah it really has a tropical summer feel to it. Was it done by the same person as the OP? I’ve honestly never heard an anime song that sounded quite like it.
あのED、雰囲気ありすぎやろwww トロピカルな夏感じるわ。OPと同じ人が作ったんか？ワイ今までああいうアニソン聴いたことないンゴ。2ちゃん+16
doomrider7
I think so yeah. There's a running theory(that I hope is true) that he might do a different theme for each episode based on the story told.
同意、それっぽいね。各エピソードのストーリーに合わせて毎回違うテーマ曲をやるんじゃないかって説が流れてて、俺もそうだったらいいなと思ってる。普通くん+12
CitronClassic672
That thought crossed my mind when I saw the manju buns but the only series I know of that did episode special EDs is chainsaw man, if this series does that then the production value is genuinely top tier.
せやな、ワイも饅頭見たときそれ思ったわ。でも毎回違うEDやったのってチェンソーマンくらいしか知らんねん。これが採用されたらガチで制作力トップ級やろなwww2ちゃん+8
doomrider7
They're going REALLY HARD on that City Pop vibe(May Van Paug be fondly remembered).
確かに！シティポップ感が強すぎて泣いた（May Van Paugよ永遠に）。夏が早く来たのも納得のエンディングすぎるッ！感情くん+12
Frontier246
I can't believe all that tropical fanservice with that rakugo mat! I thought this anime was tasteful!
確かに、あの落語用の座布団でトロピカルなファンサービスは予想外だったな。このアニメは上品だと思ってたんだけどね。普通くん+5
KumaKumaGambler
原文
Even though Akane claims that most people believe it is a good thing her father is doing financially better now than when he was performing rakugo, I felt the elderly owner of the rakugo cafe remains fond of her father's performances, especially when she saw the resemblance in Akane's performance.
Even though Akane is now a high schooler, I am glad she has not lost her tomboyish traits. That was a good headbutt. Lol!
あかねは「パパが落語やってた時より今の方が経済的に上手くいってるって大概の人は思ってる」って言うけど、あの落語カフェの老女将はパパの噺が好きだったんやろな。あかねの高座に面影見つけてたし。
あかねは高校生になってもボーイッシュなとこ全然変わってなくて草。あの頭突きワロタwww2ちゃん+27
Frontier246
>Even though Akane is now a high schooler, I am glad she has not lost her tomboyish traits. That was a good headbutt. Lol!
Also a nice contrast to her gyaru fashion sense and pink hair tips.
確かに、あかねが高校生になっても男勝りなところが残っててよかったわ。あの頭突きは笑ったわｗ
ギャルっぽいファッションやピンクの毛先との対比もいいね。普通くん+20
ClemFire
The flashback was honestly the most emotional part of the episode for me and it's interesting to see if someone relates more Akane or Tohru based on their stage in life. This feels like a story I wish I could watch when I was a teenager
あの回想シーンは正直、今回のエピソードで一番感情を揺さぶられた部分だな。自分の人生のどのステージにいるかで、あかねとトオルのどちらに共感するか変わるっていう考察は興味深い。個人的には、この物語を10代の頃に観たかったと思える作品だ。考察くん+12
Bassaluna
kaisei is here and we get the first domain expansion of the series.
akane's speech about her dad hits as hard as in the manga, the way she describes the hatred for all those who didn't support tohru when he did rakugo and are noe "glad" he failed
かいせい登場でシリーズ初の領域展開キター！
あかねの父親に関するスピーチは原作と同じくらい刺さるな。トールが落語やってた時に応援しなかったくせに、今さら「失敗してよかった」とか言ってる連中への憎しみの語り方が秀逸だわ。普通くん+20
EyeDeeAh_42
Lol I was waiting for the domain expansion references. Kaisei's VA is on-point, though I expected him to be kinda more sensual here.
草、ドメイン展開ネタ待ってたわｗ
Kaiseiの声優ガチでハマってるやん。ただワイはもうちょいエロい感じかと思ってたンゴwww2ちゃん+12
LeonKevlar
原文
###Stitches!
* Ousaki Akane
* Arakawa Kaisei
So Tooru has suffered a fate worse than death. He had to let go of his dreams and work as a concrete company sales rep. Damn. RIP.
Akaner really got her father's rakugo on point that even Ms. Yoshino immediately recognized her style of performance.
Kaisei is here! The dude definitely has skills, and based on that tiny flash at the end, I think we all know whose student Kaisei is. In terms of shounen manga, this is where our main character meets one of the strongest at the start of their journey, and I love it.
If only Akane had waited, she could've seen how many reviews she got and compare it to Kaisei. Looking at how many reviews she got, it looks like she did well for her very first performance!
###縫い目！
* 大崎あかね
* 荒川魁成
トオルは死よりも辛い運命を辿ったみたいだな。夢を諦めてコンクリート会社の営業になってるって…マジかよ。合掌。
あかねは父親の落語を完璧に継いでて、吉野さんもすぐにそのスタイルを認識してたね。
魁成キター！こいつ確かに実力あるし、最後のチラッと出た描写で誰の弟子か分かった気がするわ。少年漫画的に言うと、主人公が旅の始まりで最強クラスの一人と出会う展開だよね。これ好き。
あかねが待ってたら自分のレビュー数と魁成のを比較できたのにね。でも初めての高座でこのレビュー数なら結構やった方じゃない？普通くん+19
Frontier246
原文
Thicc Akane thighs save her fathers' rakugo style.
There's nothing sadder than someone giving up their dreams to get a real job. I mean, sure he's properly providing for his family, but it's the principle of the thing.
This whole anime is not only a rakugo showcase but an acting showcase for the seiyuu. When you see how amazing Akane is at acting, you also see how stellar Anna Nagase is as well.
There's nothing more Shonen than introducing a rival character in episode 2, said rival trying to recruit the protagonist, and the protagonist rejecting it so she can follow her own path.
太ももで父の落語スタイルを継承するあかね、まさに象徴的だよな。
夢を諦めて現実的な仕事に就くことほど悲しいことはない。確かに家族を養うのは立派だけど、そこにある美学の問題だ。
このアニメは落語の披露であると同時に、声優陣の演技力の見せ場でもある。あかねの演技の素晴らしさは、そのまま声優・Anna Nagaseの実力の証明だ。
2話でライバルキャラを登場させ、主人公を勧誘させ、それを拒否して自分の道を行く――これ以上に少年漫画らしい展開はない。考察くん+25
CitronClassic672
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed how Thicc Akane’s thighs were drawn in multiple scenes this episode.
マジでそれ！今回のあかねの太もも、何カットも強調されててやばくね！？笑 俺だけじゃなかったんだ嬉しいわ〜ギャル+16
doomrider7
She got that gyaru build and style.
確かに、あかねの脚の描き込みは今回すごかったよね。ギャル体型とスタイルが完璧に出てたわ。普通くん+12
ClemFire
>If only Akane had waited, she could've seen how many reviews she got and compare it to Kaisei. Looking at how many reviews she got, it looks like she did well for her very first performance!
I feel like this was a really smart way to highlight one of Akane's weaknesses that will come to bite her in the ass eventually
確かに、もしあかねが待っていれば、魁成と比較してどれだけのレビューを得られたか確認できたはずだ。初めての高座としては十分な成果を上げているように見える。
この展開は、あかねの弱点を浮き彫りにする巧妙な演出だと思われる。彼女の性急な性格が、将来的に大きな代償を払う伏線になっていると考察できる。考察くん+5
SYZekrom
The dance in the OP is fun
Of course she took out all the reviews for Akane to photocopy.
OPのダンス楽しいね
もちろんあかねのためにレビューを全部コピーするために持ってきたんだよね普通くん+19
doomrider7
Rakugo Grandma wanted Akane to take home some trophies. :3
確かに！落語ババアが「トロフィー持って帰れ」って言ったのエモすぎるッ！:3感情くん+14
thisisdropd
原文
Not exactly a surprise as Akane said the one who died that day was '*Shinta Arakawa*', but her father's alive and well. We're used to the plots where he either committed suicide out of depression or turn into a drunken mess and wreck his home life, but that's not the case here. His marriage was still rock solid, and he found himself a new job where he actually earned more than as a rakugoka.
Nobody could believe that it was Akane's first ever public performance, cause she's absolutely killing it. With no props and just her voice and body movements, she could vividly portray eating a manju.
Of course she's no match for Kaisei, who's been trained by the old fart Issho. As prick as the latter may be, he's serious business when it comes to rakugo so any student of his wouldn't be your run-of-the-mill rakugoka. The contrast between the sensual singing and the epic fail of a singing only served to amplify the absurdity of the latter.
Akane might not be an official apprentice yet, but looks like she's already found herself a rival.
あかねが「新田新太」って言った時点で予想はできたけど、父親は生きて元気なんだよね。よくある自殺とか酒浸りで家庭崩壊パターンじゃなかったのは新鮮。結婚生活も盤石で、落語家時代より稼げる仕事も見つけてたし。
あかねの初舞台が初めてとは信じられん。小道具なしで声と動きだけで饅頭食べるシーンを鮮やかに表現してたしね。
もちろん一生ってジジイに鍛えられた魁生には敵わないけど。あのジジイは性格はアレでも落語に関しては本物だから、その弟子が並みのはずないわ。色っぽい歌と大失敗の歌の対比が後者の滑稽さを引き立ててた。
まだ正式な弟子じゃないけど、あかねはもうライバルを見つけたみたいだね。普通くん+17
PerfectBeige
>With no props
Looking forward to the fan training arc, followed closely by the small piece of cloth training arc.
確かに！小道具なしでやるってまじやばくね？笑
ファントレーニング編→小さな布トレーニング編がくるってわけか〜楽しみすぎるんだけど！ギャル+10
Frontier246
原文
>Not exactly a surprise as Akane said the one who died that day was '*Shinta Arakawa*', but her father's alive and well. We're used to the plots where he either committed suicide out of depression or turn into a drunken mess and wreck his home life, but that's not the case here. His marriage was still rock solid, and he found himself a new job where he actually earned more than as a rakugoka.
Also one of his main drives to succeed in rakugo was for his family because he wanted to prove to them that their faith in him was valid and also start making more money for them, so even if he can't do rakugo anymore he can still help his family.
確かに、あかねが「荒川シンタ」が亡くなったと語った時点で驚きはなかったが、父親が健在なのは興味深い。よくあるパターンだと、鬱で自殺するか酒浸りで家庭を壊す展開だが、ここでは違う。むしろ結婚生活は盤石で、落語家時代より収入の良い仕事を見つけている。
さらに考察すると、彼が落語で成功しようとした原動力の一つは家族だった。家族の信頼に応えたいという思いと、彼らのために収入を増やしたいという動機があった。だから落語ができなくなっても、別の形で家族を支え続けられるという構造だ。この辺りのキャラクター設計は非常に丁寧だと思われる。考察くん+5
shad79
原文
A very good second episode, featuring Akane's first rakugo performance (which was, of course, great) and the introduction of Kaisei.
Although the highlight of this episode were... Akane's thighs ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), because, gosh, they're so thick, I love them (and Akane herself)!
I feel sorry for Akane's father. A career change from being a rakugoka to concrete sales sounds awful, even though it makes him earn more than before.
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
* Akane
* Group scenes
* Kaisei
* Others
2話も良かったね。あかねの初高座（もちろん最高だった）と、魁成の登場も良かった。
でも今回のハイライトは…あかねの太ももだろ（ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°）。だってあの太さ、マジで好き（あかね自身もだけど）。
あかねの父ちゃんには同情するわ。落語家からコンクリート営業への転職って、給料は上がったみたいだけどキツすぎる。
エピソードのスクリーンショットアルバム：
* あかね
* グループシーン
* 魁成
* その他普通くん+14
CitronClassic672
原文
So far I loved the unique elements of Kaisai’s performance to contrast the previous two. How he effortlessly segued from real events into the story and incorporated his bus delay into it. I also loved them showing a male Rakugo giving a great performance in a female role, which might not be that unusual given how male dominated the field is but still nice to see, as well as his skill at singing in addition to dialogue. Lastly, my favorite part is how Akane seems to be in a one side rivalry with him while he’s genuinely supportive of her, lol.
今んとこ改祭の演目がめっちゃ個性的で草生えたわ。前の2人と違って現実の出来事からスッと話に入って、バス遅延までネタにしとるやん。男の落語家が女形やるのも良かったわ。この業界男ばっかやし珍しくないんやろうけど、やっぱ見応えあるわな。台詞だけでなく唄も上手いし。最後に、あかねが一方的にライバル視しとるのに改祭はマジで応援しとる構図がワイ的にツボったンゴwww2ちゃん+14
ObvsThrowaway5120
Kid’s a natural. For her first performance, that was pretty damn good. She basically got thrown into the deep end but she managed to keep the crowd captive the whole time. Tough act to follow but Kaisei killed it. Akane’s found her rival I guess.
あの子天才だな。初めての高座であれはかなりすごいよ。いきなりどん底に放り込まれた感じだったけど、最後まで観客を引きつけてたし。その後に続くのは大変だったろうけど、魁生は完璧にやってのけたね。あかね、ついにライバル見つけたって感じかな。普通くん+13
stephennotstrange
I like the subtlety of the audience put down the food/drink when she just step on stage, but after her eating the manju, they start picking food and drink up because her performance make them hungry.
やばくね！？観客が彼女が舞台に立った時は食べ物＆飲み物置いたのに、まんじゅう食べた後はみんなまた食べ始めるの！彼女のパフォーマンスでお腹空いちゃったってことじゃん！まじで細かい演出すぎる笑ギャル+10
Frontier246
原文
Guriko Arakawa (Seiichiro Yamashita!) is, as far as he knows, the last of Master Shiguma's disciples and as such it's his duty to not only make it in the world of Rakugo but also make sure that his master is on the straight and narrow and not dating a high school gyaru! But this isn't just any gyaru...this is Akane Osaki!
Akane, Age 17! She's been trained in secret by Master Shiguma for six years, all so that she could become a proper Rakugo performer and validate her fathers' Rakugo! She's still as tough and sassy as ever, and her resolve hasn't wavered once.
To all appearances, the former Shinta Arakawa made the right choice going into the cement industry. He became a good provider for his family, he got a proper job, and he finally "grew up" and accepted the real world. But to Akane, who loved his Rakugo more than anything, she can't accept that this was the right thing. She has to show the world that her fathers' Rakugo wasn't wrong. And it's finally time for her to show off not only that resolve but what all those years of training have done for her.
It's kind of surreal seeing Akane act like a diligent and proper girl, and even getting some stage fright, but luckily Guri is there to give her some advice as her Senpai. She also looks amazing in that kimono and power ponytail!
Akane, in performing Rakugo, is much like her father in terms of her on-point character acting. You WILL believe she's a grown man terrified of manju...but delighting in manju all the same. And clearly displaying that Akane has what it takes!
She does so well she even draws the (albeit maybe TOO enthusiastic) attention of Kaisei Arakawa, the last person to ever be upgraded to Futatatsume by Issho Arakawa. And he's the real deal too, able to charm the audiences' and use his sensuality to add to his performances. You will believe he's a woman with a beautiful singing voice...because Kaisei is genuinely a good singer.
Akane recognizes she lost this Rakugo competition battle, but she'll win the war yet! And she won't switch sides and join the enemy in this era of talent surpassing seniority! If only she'd stayed behind and saw that she actually WAS popular with the audience, but her determination is what matters most right now.
The ED is basically a beach episode...with a Rakugo mat. My condolences to anyone who wanted to see Akane in a swimsuit, but at least we got to see her for a bit.
Akane-Kobanashi! See all the spots to watch Rakugo performances! Akane actually already knows them, but Guri is just treating the audience.
このシーン、かなり深い考察ができるポイントだと思う。まず、荒川グリ子（山下誠一郎！）は志ぐま師匠の最後の弟子という立場で、落語界で成功するだけでなく、師匠が高校生ギャルと付き合わないよう監視する役割も背負ってる。だが相手はただのギャルじゃない…朱音あかね、17歳！彼女は6年間、密かに志ぐま師匠に師事し、父の落語を証明するために本物の落語家になろうとしている。相変わらず気は強いが、その決意は微塵も揺らいでない。
かつての新太あらかわがセメント業界に進んだのは、一見正しい選択に見える。家族を養い、安定した仕事を得て「大人になった」。だが、彼の落語を何より愛した朱音にとって、それが正しかったとは思えない。父の落語が間違いじゃなかったと示すため、長年の修行の成果を見せる時が来た。
真面目でしっかりした朱音を見るのは不思議な感覚だし、舞台恐怖症になるのも新鮮。でもグリが先輩としてアドバイスするのが良い。あの着物とパワーポニーテールも最高だ！
朱音の落語は、父親譲りのキャラクター演技が光る。饅頭に怯える大人の男性を本気で信じさせつつ、同時に楽しませる。彼女に才能があるのは明らか。
あまりに熱心すぎるかもしれないが、彼女は荒川回生の注目も集める。彼は一升あらかわが最後に二ツ目に昇格させた人物考察くん+9
mobpiecedunchaindan
this is a battle shonen but every battle is replaced with Being the Best at Japanese Stand-Up
これバトル少年漫画やのに、全部のバトルが「日本一の漫才師になる」に置き換わってて草www2ちゃん+10
AAA_BATT
the music is so good man, i need the ost today
マジで音楽良すぎじゃん！OST早く欲しいんだけど笑ギャル+9
BaytaCosmico
原文
Aww she left without finding out how many comments she got. Hope that senpai character tells her. The performer from the other school is an interesting character. I wonder if this will go the romance route.
Really liking this show so far. But I have a question. How come Akane and her father have different last names? Do people take on stage names for rakugo and that's the one the others are referring to her father by?
あー、コメント数知らないまま帰っちゃったね。先輩キャラが教えてあげてほしいな。他校の演者も面白いキャラだし、これ恋愛ルートにいくのかな。
今のところこの作品めっちゃ好き。でも一つ疑問なんだけど、あかねと父親って苗字違うのはなんで？落語の芸名みたいなのを名乗ってて、父親はそっちで呼ばれてるってこと？普通くん+9
cokeybottlecap
Yep, it's stage names! Akane's dad is known as Arakawa Shinta in the rakugo world, but his real name is Osaki Tohru.
それな！赤音のパパは高座名が荒川新太で本名は尾崎トオルってやつね。この設定エモすぎるッ！感情くん+15
BaytaCosmico
Ahh, that makes sense. I was wondering why her mother kept calling him Tohru and not Shinta. And Arakawa is the name of their rakugo school iirc, so I guess she will be Arakawa Akane (or Arakawa something else, if she decides to go by a different first name as well).
ああ、なるほどね。母親が彼をシンタじゃなくてトオルって呼んでたの、それで納得だわ。確かアラカワは一門の名前だよね。ってことは彼女はアラカワ・アカネになるのかな（違う名前を芸名に選ぶなら別だけど）。普通くん+5
Nachtwandler_FS
The rival was from the same school though (evident by the "Arakawa" stage name Akane's father also used). It is just that Akane decided to train under her father's former mentor, while Kaisai has the school head as a mentor (the guy who expelled Akane's father and a bunch of other appreteances).
せやな、ライバルは同じ学校出身やったんやな（あかねの父も使ってた「荒川」って高座名で分かるわ）。あかねは父親の元師匠の下で修行する道を選んだけど、開西は学校のトップ（あかねの父や他の弟子を追い出した奴）を師匠に持ってるって構図やろ。2ちゃん+7
L1k34S0MB0D33
>How come Akane and her father have different last names? Do people take on stage names for rakugo and that's the one the others are referring to her father by?
Yeah. Her father's stage name was Shinta Arakawa, but his actual name is Torhu Osaki.
> あかねと父親の名字が違うのはなんで？落語家って芸名使うからその名字で呼ばれてるってこと？
せやで。父親の芸名は荒川心太、本名は大崎トオルやで。2ちゃん+5
Nachtwandler_FS
原文
No, the father was always a member of Arakawa school. It is just that there are a few full fleged rakugokas (shunichi/masters) in the school.
Akane's father and now Akane herself trained under Shiguma Arakawa (the old guy she talked to this episode). While Kaisai trains under the schools head, Isshou Arakawa (the old guy who expelled Akane's father).
Edit: OK looks like you cleared it up already.
いや、父親は最初から荒川派の一員だったんだよ。ただ、その派閥には正式な落語家（師匠クラス）が何人かいるってだけ。
あかねの父と、今のあかねは荒川繁馬（今週話してた老人）の下で修行してる。一方、魁生は派閥の頭である荒川一照（あかねの父を破門した老人）の下で修行してるんだ。
編集：もう解決したみたいだね。普通くん+7
Infamous-Policy3683
4chapters adapting thats a good pacing , they portrayed arakawa very well and akane manju playing everything was depicted really good adding the cherry blossom effect . Man good visuals , expecting it from a studio that git the reputation of unfinished anime in 2010s.
4話で原作を消化するのは適切なペースだな。荒川の描写も良かったし、あかね饅頭が全てを演奏するシーンに桜のエフェクトを加えた演出も秀逸だった。映像美も申し分ない。2010年代に「未完のアニメ」のレッテルを貼られたスタジオとは思えないクオリティだ。考察くん+8
Odd_Duty520
Found a second Akane to simp for! Absolute cinema
二推しのあかね見つけたわ！完璧な映画だね普通くん+8
dagreenman18
原文
“My dad quit being a struggling artist to work a sales job and now he actually makes lots of money. My steak *is* too juicy and lobster too buttery!”
Like I get it. He killed his dreams to support his family and that’s tragic. And rubbing it in the face of child who supported his dream that her dad is a “serious person” now is fucked. But the way she framed it there is too funny.
But the joy of this story is heighting some relatively mundane like Rakugo to the level of a shonen battle manga
「ワイの親父、貧乏画家辞めて営業マンになったらガチで金持ちになったンゴ。ステーキは肉汁ヤバいしロブスターもバターまみれやwww」
わかるわ。夢捨てて家族養うって悲しい話やしな。しかも夢を応援してた娘に対して「今は真面目な人間や」ってドヤるのはクソやろ。でも言い方が面白すぎて草。
この話の面白いとこは、落語みたいな地味なものを少年漫画バトル漫画レベルに盛り上げてるとこやな。2ちゃん+8
tapdancinghellspawn
I'm in love with Akane's Rakugo. She's so full of life that it shines through her performance and how she interacts with others. You just want her to succeed.
あかねの落語に完全に恋したッ！彼女の生命力がパフォーマンスや人との関わり方に溢れ出てて輝いてる。もう成功してほしいとしか思えない、エモすぎる！感情くん+7
IceColdReading
It was good. I am not gonna over analyze, I am just still overjoyed that the anime is actually a thing. It’s still so surreal.
草。細かいことはどうでもええわ。アニメ化がマジで現実になったってだけでワイはもう大満足や。まだ夢みたいやわ。2ちゃん+7
AZLarlar
her first performance was so good!!
彼女の初めてのパフォーマンス、めっちゃ良かったね！！普通くん+7
PerfectBeige
Manju sales through the roof....
まじでやばくない！？饅頭売り切れまくりじゃん笑ギャル+5
HarshTheDev
I hope granny tells Akane about her reviews next time she arrives there. It'll annoy me otherwise.
ばあちゃんが次の稽古で自分のレビューをあかねに教えてくれるといいな。そうじゃないとモヤモヤするわ。普通くん+7
ratherthanme
She probably gave the copies to Guriko.
婆ちゃん次の回でレビュー見せてくれるやろ…せやなかったらワイキレるンゴwww
多分コピーはグリコに渡してるで2ちゃん+6
2kenzhe
原文
Akane really did great, considering that it was her first ever performance with no experience in front of a crowd.
Also yeah Dad's not dead just his rakugo career/self. He's going to be treated like dead though in a shounen story gotta revenge him!
It is sad though how yeah while he quit, got a job and doing financially better now people do treat him like it was wrong of him to do rakugo or that he sucked etc. Great he's supporting his family now but I'm sure he and the mom too are sad he couldn't keep doing it.
Besides Akane I quite liked Guriko as well being the older senpai but not really feeling like it. Kaisei as well set up as a rival/antagonist faction, etc. His good singing them sudden goofy face and bad singing really does work well.
あかね、初めての大舞台で経験ゼロなのに本当によくやったよね。
あと、父親は死んでないけど落語家としての自分は死んだってことか。でも少年漫画で復讐するように扱われるんだろうな。
確かに辞めて仕事して経済的に安定した今でも、落語やるのが間違ってたとか下手だったとか言われるのは悲しいな。家族を養えてるのはいいけど、本人も母親も続けられなかったことを悲しんでるだろうね。
あかね以外だと、グリコは先輩だけど先輩っぽくない感じが良かった。魁成はライバル/敵対勢力としての立ち位置もいいし、いい歌声からの突然の間抜け顔とヘタクソな歌のギャップが効いてるわ。普通くん+8
TheBusStop12
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Wait, that was it?! I swear that episode was only 5 minutes long. Damn that sucked me in
The OP is so damn good, the song especially is so smooth. Also, was the ED song about the scary manju story?
I wish I understood Japanese so I could visit and actually understand an IRL rakugo performance. I'll probably still go when I visit Japan as you can gleam a lot already from movements, facial expressions and tone and it's mostly for the vibes (When I was in India I watched a Bollywood movie in cinema fully in Hindu. Was a great time) but being able to understand is better
待って、これで終わり？！絶対5分しか経ってないだろ。マジで引き込まれたわ。
OPがめちゃくちゃ良いな。特に曲がすごくスムーズ。あとEDの歌、あの怖い饅頭の話に関係してるんじゃないか？
日本語が理解できれば生の落語を実際に観に行けるのにな。日本行った時は多分観に行くけど、動きや表情、声のトーンだけでも結構汲み取れるし、雰囲気を味わうのがメインだからね（インドでヒンディー語のボリウッド映画を観た時も楽しかったし）。でもやっぱり理解できた方が良いに決まってる。考察くん+7
Norix596
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Your next best option is to look up Katsura Sunshine; he did a performance at the premier for this anime and it was great (he performed Scared of Manju since it would be in the next episode). He’s a Canadian who moved to Japan and became a formal apprentice (just like Akane is asking to be) and by now is a master (like the dad was trying to get promoted to) with four apprentices. He does performances in both Japanese and English; he does tours in Japan, US and other countries and you can find videos of snippets of his stuff online.
確かにあっという間だったな。OPめっちゃ良いよね。
次の選択肢としては、桂三輝を調べてみるのがいいかも。彼はこのアニメのプレミアでパフォーマンスやってて、すごく良かったんだ（次の話で出る「饅頭こわい」を演じてたよ）。カナダから日本に移住して正式な弟子になって（あかねが頼んでるみたいに）、今じゃ師匠（あかねの父が目指してた立場）になって弟子も4人いるんだって。日本語と英語両方で公演してて、日本やアメリカとかでもツアーやってるから、ネットで断片動画も見つけられるよ。普通くん+7
International_Leg666
She looks like her from Dandandan.
確かに！ダンダダンのあのキャラにそっくりすぎるッ！感情くん+6
ClemFire
Momo? Akane is giving for a tomboy vibe compared to Momo's gyaru but I see where you are coming from as they both present in a non conforming way
モモのことか？あかねの方がガチでボーイッシュな雰囲気やけど、ギャル系のモモと比べてどっちも型にはまらん感じは分かるわ。せやな。2ちゃん+6
International_Leg666
Even the dressing and some quirks. I remember momo but my mind was like momo is the other one from apothecary diaries. Thanks for the recall too. Could have searched it up too. 😂
確かに！服装とかクセも似てるかもね〜笑
てか私も最初「モモって薬屋のひとりのモモだっけ？」ってなったんだけど笑
わざわざ思い出させてくれてありがと〜！検索すればよかったんだけどさ😂ギャル+5
Doctor_Freeeeeman
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The aura farming with these performances is off the charts. (got Light Yagami potato chip flashbacks) And serious kudos to Akane's and the pink haired guys voice performances. They really drew me in and had me laughing with the audience.
Also, I love the source material's restraint with the stakes. Weaker stories would have had the family lose income or more severely, have the father take his life. Instead having Akane alone feeling a creative hole in her soul after her dad was ejected was really well played.
We have a clear revenge/succession plot, an early rival, an old master and a unique family dynamic and we're only on episode 2. I had a feeling this was going to be good, but didn't expect it to cook *this* *hard.*
このパフォーマンスのオーラやばすぎンゴwww（夜神月のポテチ思い出したわ）
茜とピンク髪の声優マジで神ってる。引き込まれて観客と一緒に笑ってもうたわ。
あと原作のリスク設定の抑制が上手いわ。普通の作品なら家族が収入失うとか父親が自殺するとかやるやろ。でも父親追放後に茜だけが創作の穴を感じるって描写、ガチでうまい。
復讐/継承の筋書き、初期ライバル、老師、独特な家族関係、しかもまだ2話やぞ。これはいいと思ってたけどここまでやるとは思わんかったわ。2ちゃん+7
NoHead1715
ooo wow, love the animation of her eating the imaginary manju. Fits perfectly with her talking with mouth full. Akane's VA did a fantastic job here. I'm looking forward to hear her sing and then switch to talking like that other guy. The VAs are going to need to bring their A games for this show!
おお、彼女が想像上の饅頭を食べるアニメーション、めっちゃいいね。口に物を入れたまま話す感じにぴったり合ってる。あかねの声優、ここ本当にすごかったな。彼女が歌ってからあの別の奴みたいに話し方切り替えるのを聞くのが楽しみだ。この作品、声優陣は本気出さないとだね！普通くん+6
ClemFire
Episode went by in a flash, out of the new shows this one has me the most invested.
え、もう終わったんだけど！？新作アニメの中でこれが一番ハマってるわマジで！ギャル+5
ErikTwice
Given her hair has pink tips, I would say so. Her fashion style is also noticed by other characters.
The full pink hair guy might be just an anime thing, though.
髪の先がピンクになってるし、そうだと思う。ファッションスタイルも他のキャラに注目されてるしね。
でも全身ピンクの髪の男は、ただのアニメの演出かもしれないけど。普通くん+7
IceSmiley
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They did such a good job bringing people into rakugo who aren't that familiar with it and explaining the funny stories and their context. I wonder if rakugo is only funny stories or if they have dramatic ones. Both the rakugo stories were funny; it must really be a dream job for a voice actor to do a show like this where they get to ham it up and show range, it'd be fun to watch them recording the lines.
I'm suprised Akane's father gave up entirely on rakugo. You'd think maybe he'd just do it at gatherings or occasional performances even if he works full time although maybe if his job is demanding he might just not have time to practice to deliver what he would consider to be a good performance.
Tamon has become way more confident since quitting the pop idol world to do rakugo 🤣
落語あんま知らん人にも話の背景とか笑いのツボを分かりやすく説明してくれててマジ神演出やったわ。落語って笑い話だけなんか？シリアスなやつもあるんかね。どっちの演目も面白かったし、声優からしたらこんなんガチで夢の仕事やろな、声張りまくって表現力見せつけられるし、録音風景見てみてェわ。
あかねの親父が落語完全に辞めちゃったのには驚いたンゴ。本職持ちながら集まりとかでたまにやるくらいはするかと思ったけど、仕事忙しいと納得いくネタやる練習時間すら取れないってことなんかね。
タモン、アイドル辞めて落語家になってからめっちゃ自信ついてて草www2ちゃん+5
