放送 2026-08-04更新 2026-08-10
Furin
Interesting that it wasn't the prison break that got her into trouble, but her date with the Captain. I wonder how Vicky will deal with the organization now that they know she's still alive, she clearly doesn't want to leave her new life behind, but she also doesn't really have another choice. They're not going to just leave her be.
脱獄が問題になったのではなく、キャプテンとのデートがきっかけになったのが興味深い。組織が彼女の生存を把握した以上、ヴィッキーがどう対応するか気になるな。新しい生活を手放したくないのは明らかだが、選択肢も限られている。組織が彼女を放っておくとは思えないからな。考察くん
Frontier246
原文
Honestly she's still kind of in trouble for the prison break because it's the first major crime she's committed in the kingdom (the prince could at least be construed as self-defense even if she assaulted royalty) and she also knows that she has to answer for it especially when she's effectively dating the top cop of the kingdom. Even moreso because of how much she's fallen for Jeffrey and feeling guilty for how she's compromising him. Though she's also thinking this not knowing that Hagl is going to be coming after her and she DEFINITELY does not want to get involved with them again. And protecting Nonna has to be the priority.
正直言うと、彼女まだ脱獄の件でヤバい立場やろ。だってこれが王国で犯した最初の重大犯罪やし(王子相手は皇室に手出したとはいえ、せめて自衛って解釈もできたけどな)。しかも事実上交際してる相手が王国の警察トップやから、その責任取らなアカンって自覚してるんや。ジェフリーにぞっこんやからこそ、彼を危険に巻き込んでる罪悪感も半端ないしな。ただ、彼女はハグルが追ってくるとは知らんし、絶対に関わりたくないって思っとる。そしてノンナを守るのが最優先や。2ちゃん
MarcelHard
why would she in trouble? I heard it was a redhead that freed the criminal and Vicky is brunette
なんで彼女がトラブルになるんだ?犯人が逃がしたのは赤毛の子だって聞いたけど、ヴィッキーは茶髪だよね普通くん
Hartzilla2007
Plus they think the guy is still in the capital when he's already left the city.
しかも連中、あいつがまだ首都にいると思ってるけど、実際はもう街を出てるんだぜッ!感情くん
fireburn97ffgf
On top of that her early romance looks very much like a honey post mission from the outside, so she could get in trouble just for that misinterpreted action
それに加えて、彼女の初期の恋模様は外から見れば任務後の甘い罠(ハニーポスト)そのものに見えるでござる。されば、その誤解された行動だけで、彼女は面倒なことになりかねぬと申すか……実に厄介な状況であるな。武士
reaperow
I dont see her getting out of this unless she figures out a way to dupe them or just lays low for a while, If worse comes to serve then relocating is the only thing left
彼女が彼らを騙す方法を見つけるか、しばらく身を潜めない限り、この状況から抜け出せないと思うよ。最悪の場合、移住するしか残ってないね。普通くん
Ocixo
I don’t really think that she got any other option but to convince them to let her quit the organisation and live a peaceful life. If Chloe tried to flee a second time, they’d find her much quicker.
まじで彼女に選択肢なかったんじゃない?組織抜けて平穏に生きるって説得するしかなかったんだよ。だってクロエが二度目に逃げようとしたら、前より絶対すぐ見つかるじゃん?やばくね?ギャル
Ill-Vast-4693
原文
Hagl Intelligence doesn't do early retirement. Unless you get burned and killed, you work in the field until you get promoted to a desk or are otherwise judged unfit for fieldwork. Those who aren't promoted to administration are then used to teach the next generation of spies. Then they serve until the big boss decides they're too old to be useful and grants them a pension. That's why MC had to fake her death to get away - resignation is seen as treason and punished by death.
ハグル諜報部に早期引退は存在しない。焼かれて殺されない限り、現場で働き続けてデスク勤務に昇進するか、現場不適格と判断されるまで働くんだ。管理職に昇進できなかった者は次世代スパイの育成に回される。そして大ボスが「もう年で使えない」と判断するまで働き続け、ようやく年金が与えられる。だから主人公は逃げるために死を偽装するしかなかったんだ——辞職は反逆と見なされ、死刑になるからね。普通くん
amnsisc
原文
That's a very inefficient way of running a spy organization. Even most gangs, cartels, and terror orgs let you age out of the org! While most spy orgs use enough compartmentalization and plausible deniability (relevant since clearly in this show's case she would operating without diplomatic cover) to make this issue irrelevant. Though most people in intel attest they can call you back to do 'favors' for them at any time, that's still quite different from not letting you retire. In fact, having spies filter into civilian jobs semi permanently after retirement is not even seen as a bug of intelligence agencies, but a feature--it is key to their operations. The most plausible travel agency to use as a cover is a real travel agency ( or at least it was when travel agencies were still a thing, lol). Heck, most backdoor diplomacy between North Korea and the US for years went through some random Korean guy in New Jersey who owned a laundromat or pizza shop or something like that. This was even more true in the Victorian era world shown in the anime. In fact, back then, most intelligence was private subcontracted, amateurish, and done through everything from criminal organizations (IJA used the Yakuza), emigre/refugee groups (too many to count) , private detective agencies (the Pinkertons), old boy and patronage networks (political machines), and sources turned or placed in key areas by military intelligence officers using a mix of sex, drugs, money, and blackmail.
スパイ組織の運営法として、それはあまりにも非効率極まりないのだ。大抵のギャングやカルテル、テロ組織でさえ、年齢を重ねれば引退を許されるというのに。まともな諜報機関なら、徹底的な情報隔離と否認可能性によって、この問題など本来は無意味に帰すのだ。何せ、この作品の彼女は外交特権なしで活動しているのだからな。諜報関係者の証言によれば、いつでも「頼み事」で呼び戻されることはあるが、それは引退を認めないのとは全く別次元の話だ。むしろ、引退した工作員が半永久的に民間職へ溶け込むことは、機関の欠陥ではなく、むしろ運用の要として機能している。旅行代理店の表向きの看板も、本物の旅行会社を使うのが最も自然なのだ(まあ、旅行代理店が存在していた時代の話だがな)。北朝鮮と米国の裏外交だって、長年ニュージャージーのどこかのランドリー屋やピザ屋を営む韓国人経由で行われていたものだ。このアニメのビクトリア朝世界では、それがさらに顕著だった。当時の諜報活動の大半は、民間委託で、素人じみており、犯罪組織(旧日本軍はヤクザを使役した)、亡命者グループ、私立探偵社(ピンカートン)、学閥や縁故ネットワーク、そして軍事情報将校が性・薬物・金・脅迫を駆使して寝返らせた情報源を通じて行われていたのだ。故に、年齢による引退拒否など、実に非効率の中二病
lasse1408
Well I think it's pretty clear that leader of her organization didn't know that happened to Victoria family. So when they gonna talk to each other and He'll learn reason why she left he most likely gonna find out who actually did harm her family and deal with them and as apology will set her free from organization. For me it's most likely option
まあ組織のリーダーはビクトリア家に何があったか知らなかったんだろうね。だから2人が話して、彼女が組織を離れた理由を知ったら、実際に家族に害を加えた奴らを見つけ出して始末して、謝罪として彼女を組織から解放するんじゃないかな。俺はそれが一番あり得る展開だと思う普通くん
Ill-Vast-4693
原文
What purpose would there be in doing anything sinister to an agent's family? All agents recruited as children cut ties with their families on the day they are recruited. Because of that, in order to murder Chloe's parents for being Chloe's parents, you'd have to breach Hagl Intelligence's secure archives just to figure out what the original name and home address she had when she was Nonna's age even were, and if you can do that there are far more important things you could be looking up with that access.
エージェントの家族に害を加える動機が何かあるだろうか?全エージェントは子供時代に採用された時点で家族との縁を切っている。つまり、クロエの両親を「クロエの両親だから」という理由で殺害するには、ハグル諜報機関の機密アーカイブに侵入して、彼女がノンナくらいの年齢だった頃の旧姓と住所を特定する必要がある。そんなアクセス権があるなら、もっと重要な情報を調べられるはずだ。考察くん
Evil_sod
Vicky doesn't realise that she's training Nonna to be a future villainess
ヴィッキーは、自分がノンナを将来の悪役令嬢に育てているって気づいてないんだよね普通くん
Frontier246
Competent Hammy Possessive Likes playing the bad guy Blonde She's got all the best Villainess traits already!
有能にしてハイテンション、独占欲旺盛、悪役に徹することを悦びと知る金髪の令嬢。既に彼女は悪役令嬢としての全属性を宿しておるのだ!中二病
Jaridan
still gotta train the ojou-laugh
お嬢様笑いの訓練はまだ必要だね普通くん
Nachtwandler_FS
She is a fast-learner, I am sure she can do it. And hey, she even has a duke's (or is it count) son for a potential love interest.
あの子は飲み込み早いし、絶対できるわw それに、公爵(伯爵だっけ?)の息子が恋愛対象候補にいるしなwwwwwwおじ
ultravioletheart08
Clark is the son of an earl, so yeah
クラークは伯爵の息子でござるからな、当然のことで候。武士
PracticalMarsupial
Her hair is so straight though, I doubt it could hold a good curl. Here's hoping her hair gets easier with age!
髪がまっすぐすぎて、カールがうまく持たなさそうだな。でも年齢とともに扱いやすくなるといいね!普通くん
testthrowawayzz
A villainess played by Wakayama Shion sounds very nice
若山詩音が演じる悪役令嬢か。悪くないな。ドライおじ
shapular
Used to be a tomboy
昔はガチのボーイッシュやったンゴねぇ……2ちゃん
TurkeyPhat
she would be about as good as Bertia let's be real
正直言って、彼女の実力はベルティアと大差ないと思うよ。普通くん
Primary-Paint-1716
Good. Bertia is an SSS-tier villainess
まあ、ベルティアはSSS級の悪役令嬢だな。悪くない。ドライおじ
guntanksinspace
I wonder how good can Nonna throw hands compared to Bertia... Looks like she picked up some of Vicky's fisticuffs lol
ノンナってベルティアと比べてどれくらい喧嘩強いんだろうな…ビッキーの拳をちょっと盗んだっぽい感じがするわ笑普通くん
KumaKumaGambler
All those reading helped Nonna become a 4D chess player. Vicky: I want to see Nonna in a princess outfit. Nonna: No, I WANT to see Vicky in a princess outfit. Lol!
読書のおかげでノンナは4Dチェスのプレイヤーになったんだな。ヴィッキーが「ノンナの王女様コスプレが見たい」って言ったら、ノンナが「いや、俺はヴィッキーの王女様姿が見たい」って返すのが面白すぎるw普通くん
Frontier246
Jeffrey: "I DEFINITELY approve of Victoria in a princess outfit!"
ジェフリー:「ヴィクトリアのプリンセス衣装、完全に賛成すぎるッ!」感情くん
TheBusStop12
So this is a villainess anime after all. With Nonna as the very best villainess! Girl knows what she wants, she's great I like that Vicky is resolved to deal with the situation of the Marquess not through vengeance, but instead righting her own mistake in getting the brother caught and possibly executed by busting him out
なるほど、やっぱり悪役令嬢アニメだったんだね。ノンナが最高の悪役令嬢だよ!彼女は自分の欲しいものをちゃんと分かってるし、そこがいいよね。ヴィッキーが侯爵の問題を復讐じゃなくて、自分が兄を捕まらせて処刑されそうになった過ちを正すために脱獄させるって決意してるのも好きだな。普通くん
Frontier246
Vicky is basically a Rishe loop where she became a mom.
ビッキーってまさにリシェのループ版で、しかもママになったパターンじゃん!やばくね!?ギャル
TheBusStop12
The 7th loop didn't pan out (death by lack of season 2) so this is the 8th time loop I need season 2 of 7th Time Loop
7周目は失敗に終わった(2期がないせいで死亡)から、これは8周目だな。『7回目のループ』の2期が必要だ。普通くん
runevault
7th time loop not getting a s2 is a high crime against good anime. Among anime that still have a reasonable shot at getting one it is probably my top need for a s2.
7周ループが2期やらないのはいいアニメへの重大犯罪だわw まだ2期の可能性があるアニメの中じゃ、俺の2期欲しいランキングぶっちぎりでトップだな笑wwwおじ
TheBusStop12
Same for me. 7th Time Loop, This Monster Wants To Eat Me and Secrets of the Silent Witch are the 3 anime I'm most desperate for getting a second season for
俺も同じだな。『7回目のループ』『この怪物は私を食べたい』『秘密のサイレントウィッチ』の3作品は、続編が一番待ち遠しいわ。普通くん
runevault
I liked Silent Witch but not quite on that level, and I still need to watch This Monster Wants to Eat Me though I've heard a lot of good things about it. My true #1 is Chivalry of a Failed Knight but I've given up on that ever getting a S2.
Silent Witchはそこそこ面白かったけど、そこまでやなかったわ。This Monster Wants to Eat Meはまだ見てないンゴ、評判はええけどな。ワイの真のNo.1は落第騎士の英雄譚や、ただ2期はもう諦めてるンゴwww2ちゃん
TheBusStop12
Chivalry of the Failed Knight deserved a second season. It hurts knowing something like Asterix War did get one, but Chivalry did not. Yona of the Dawn is getting a second season, so it's okay if I take some deep huffs of copium, right? Right?
「落第騎士の英雄譚」は2期があって然るべき作品だった。あんな『アステリスク戦争』が2期を得たのに、この作品が得られなかったのは悔やまれる。『暁のヨナ』は2期が決まったから、俺がコピウムを深く吸い込んでも許されるよな? 許されるよな?考察くん
runevault
LOL yeah I fantasize about it getting the Yona of the Dawn treatment (I need to get back to Yona I want to watch it before S2 comes out), but I feel like being a Battle Harem anime in this era makes it even less likely we'll get more 😢
笑ったわ。『暁のヨナ』みたいな扱いになるのを妄想しちゃうな(ヨナも続き見ないと、S2前に観たいんだけど)、でも今の時代にバトルハーレムアニメってだけで続編の可能性さらに低くなりそうで悲しい😢普通くん
zz2000
Had Chivalry been released in more recent times, it is more likely it could have gotten a S2 given the rise of sequels and remakes.
まじで「Chivalry」が今の時代に放送されてたら、続編ラッシュの流れでS2いけたかもじゃん!悔しすぎるんだけど!ギャル
athrun_1
Second this.
それな。普通くん
athrun_1
Pretty sure the anime gods will make it happen. It may take years, but it will happen.
まじでアニメの神様がなんとかしてくれるって信じてる!何年かかるかわかんないけど、絶対叶うって!ギャル
ultravioletheart08
Same same
同じく同じく普通くん
ShadowGuyinRealLife
原文
At least unlike the 7th loop, the guards made a better attempt at searching a woman. Who would have guessed a hairpin would be used as a saw? Meanwhile, many other cases women in anime can get away with just stuffing things under their skirt to pass inspection. Even in a world where all combatants (and guards) are male, it's pretty silly no one takes a look. I'm going to get a hate for this, but I think Victoria should not save the servant. If Jeff didn't bother to learn about him, she wouldn't be any wiser. So it some sense it is using the fact he he diligent to cause headaches for him. I feel pity for the brother. But he is simply not worth the risk she takes. She thought she knocked him out several episodes ago but was spotted anyways. Victoria is not completely immune from detection.
せやな、7周目と違って今回は警備員も女をちゃんと調べとるやん。まさか髪留めがノコギリ代わりになるとは誰も思わんわな。他のアニメやとスカートに物隠してごまかせるのに、ここまで男だらけの世界やと流石に誰も見ないのはアホらしいわ。
ワイは叩かれるかもやけど、ビクトリアは使用人を助けるべきやなかったと思うンゴ。ジェフが彼のことを調べてなかったら、ビクトリアも気づかんかったやろ。つまり、彼の勤勉さを逆手に取ってジェフに面倒をかけてるだけやん。兄弟は可哀想やけど、リスクに見合わんわ。
数話前に気絶させたと思ったのに見つかってたし、ビクトリアも完全に隠密ってわけやないんやな。2ちゃん
reaperow
原文
Fair deal Wholesome 🩵🩵 Oh its the victim and her brother !! Proud mama LOL Ah this looks bad We know that Victoria is pretty skilled but to figure out the patrolling patterns just by listening once is some gaming stuff, I really liked the espionage rescue mission and im glad that Victoria was able to save the girl and her brother from the last eps, there's some silver lining here atleast But it looks like that old guy recognized Chloe instead of Nonna like I thought, I just hope Vicoria can deal with this.
公平な取引だ、心温まるな🩵🩵 ああ、被害者の少女とその兄か!誇らしいママだな(笑) これはまずい展開だな。ビクトリアが相当な腕前なのは分かってるが、一度聞いただけで巡回パターンを把握するのはゲーム級の技だよ。スパイ救出ミッションは本当に良かったし、前回からビクトリアが少女と兄を救えたのは救いだな。少なくとも希望はある。だが、あの老人は俺が思ってたノンナじゃなくてクロエに気付いたみたいだ。ビクトリアがどうにかしてくれることを願うよ。考察くん
Plus_Potato4351
I don't think she just listened once. I think she spent the whole hour listening since she left immediately after.
ワイ的には一回聞いただけやないと思うンゴ。出て行った直後やから、まるまる1時間聞いてたんやろなwww2ちゃん
reaperow
That's still pretty cool tho
それでもまじでかっこよくない!?やばくね!?ギャル
Frontier246
I like how they balanced cute, wholesome, family stuff with Victoria pulling a legit spy job in the most cool way possible.
かわいい家族描写と、ビクトリアがクールに本格スパイ任務をこなすバランスがいいよね。普通くん
guntanksinspace
She was operating on some Metal Gear internal radar shit. Or hell, some Garett Thief shit too lol. She'd probably just blackjack the piss out of peeps back in her day I bet.
メタルギア並みの内部レーダーやんwww いやガレット泥棒みたいなやつやな草 昔のワイやったらブラックジャックでぶん殴ってたやろな2ちゃん
thisisdropd
原文
Ironic that the very same woman who put Carl in jail eventually broke him out of it. Balanced as it should be . I reckon Jeffrey would be pretty conflicted should he discover the person responsible was right in front of his very eyes. On one hand, helping an attempted murderer out of jail was a crime but on the other hand he understood why she did it. Oops, her past infiltration mission ended up biting her in the arse. Thought the investigation by Ashbury would lead to Hagl finding out about Vicky but it came from another angle. Their confrontation wouldn't be pretty.
カーを刑務所に入れた張本人が、結局は彼を脱獄させたっていうのが皮肉だよね。バランス取れてるって感じ。もしジェフリーが、犯人が目の前にいたって知ったら相当複雑だろうな。一方で脱獄未遂の手助けは犯罪だけど、彼女の気持ちも理解できるし。過去の潜入任務が裏目に出ちゃった感じだね。アシュベリーの調査でハグルがヴィッキーに気づくのかと思ったら、別の角度からバレたのか。二人の対決は穏便じゃ済まないだろうな。普通くん
Frontier246
Honestly I wonder if Vicky is planning that vacation to confess everything to him even if it means basically giving herself up knowing he's duty-bound to arrest her. Would he follow his heart and just let her go? Would he do his duty? Because I feel like the kingdom/princes would have to force him to arrest her if it came down to that. Assuming any of this happens before Hagly finds her.
ワイ的にはビクトリアがその休暇で全部告白するつもりなんちゃうかって思うンゴ。たとえ自分が捕まるって分かってても、彼が職務上逮捕せなあかんって知ってる上でな。彼は心に従って見逃すんやろか?それとも義務を果たすんやろか?ワイ的には、もしそうなったら王国や王子らが無理やり逮捕させるとこまで行く気がするわ。ハグリーに見つかる前にこんな展開が起こる前提やけどな。2ちゃん
mianghuei
Guy gets sentenced to hang, but a badass spysassin breaks him out instead.
死刑宣告された男が、代わりに超クールなスパイ暗殺者に救出される展開。普通くん
Frontier246
Is there any better way to get broken out of prison than by a beautiful woman pretending to be your lover? Sure she's also the one who beat you up and got you locked up (even if Carl didn't know that), but still.
美人に恋人騙って牢屋から出してもらうとか最高やんwww
しかもその美人がワイをボコボコにしてぶち込んだ張本人やからな(カールは知らんけど)
それでも最高やろ2ちゃん
PeaceAlien
Wondering why she saved him? Didn't seem necessary to go through all these risks
なんで彼女が彼を助けたんだろうね?そんなリスク冒す必要なくない?笑ギャル
KumaKumaGambler
Vicky must have felt responsible for getting him arrested, when she wasn't aware that he was trying to avenge his sister. Or so I speculate.
ヴィッキーは、彼が妹の復讐をしようとしてたって知らなかったから、彼を逮捕させちゃった責任を感じてたんだろうね。まあ、俺の推測だけど。普通くん
Frontier246
Yeah, she remarked how unfair it is that he was getting a death sentence when the Marquess was the real bad guy in this situation and ruined a lot of women. Her own personal sense of ethics just couldn't let her leave him to face death when she's the reason he failed and got put in prison.
せやな、彼女は「侯爵が真の悪役やろ、大勢の女性を不幸にしとるのに、なんでこいつだけ死刑なん?」って不公平や思うたんやろな。自分の倫理観が許されへんかったんやろ。自分が失敗させて刑務所送りにした張本人やから、見捨てられへんかったってわけや。2ちゃん
TheBusStop12
原文
Some rich bastard assaulted his sister and ruined her life. And when he went to take revenge Vicky got in the way and as a result he ended on death row. When she learned the motives behind all this Vicky remarked just how unfair the whole situation is. She probably feels guilty for interfering and getting him caught. The consequences of her actions. So she's dealing with it for her own peace of mind
ある金持ちのクソ野郎が妹を暴行して人生を台無しにしたんだ。そして復讐に行ったらヴィッキーが邪魔して、結果的に死刑囚になっちゃった。彼女が動機を知った時、ヴィッキーはこの状況がどれだけ不公平か言ってたな。多分、自分が邪魔して捕まえさせたことに罪悪感を感じてるんだろう。自分の行動の結果だからね。だから自分の心の平穏のために解決しようとしてるんだと思う。普通くん
mianghuei
She was thinking this was so not fair at the end of last episode
最後のエピソードの終わり、彼女が「こんなの不公平すぎる!」って思ってたのがたまらなくて……泣いた。感情くん
iAmMutun
I didn't expect a continuation on that topic and somehow completely forgot about it. Spent the first few minutes this episode wondering what the heck she was doing, until she got into the prison then I remember. 😆
その話題の続きがあるとは思わなかったし、完全に忘れてたわ。今週の冒頭数分間は彼女が何やってるのかさっぱり分からなかったけど、刑務所に入ったところで思い出したよ😆普通くん
Nachtwandler_FS
I presumed she will pull something like this. But damn it was risky. Also, that bastard of a marquise assaulted not one girl but four as it turns out.
思ってた通りやったわ。でもガチでリスキーやったンゴwww
しかもあの侯爵のクソ野郎、一人やなくて四人も襲っとったんかよ。マジ許されへんわ。2ちゃん
Busy-Elderberry2137
have you been watching on 2x?
2倍速で見てるの?普通くん
PinkGlitterLady4
I'm glad they didn't skip the Jeff/Victoria scenes like last episode.. they were really cute! And how embarrassed Victoria was about wearing the princess costume made me giggle haha
前回みたいにジェフとビクトリアのシーン飛ばさなくてよかった〜!可愛すぎるッ!王女様コスプレで照れるビクトリア、クスクス笑っちゃったわwww感情くん
PencilgonGiveIt2Ya
OP song so good ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽
OP曲良すぎる…(泣)普通くん
Pikagreg
It reminds me of the Sarazanmai ED from The Peggies lol
ペギーズの「サラザンマイ」ED思い出すわwww2ちゃん
Difergion
I think I got this from you as well and had it saved as an emoji shortcut lmao Leave Vicky alone y’all ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽
これも君からもらったやつだわ、絵文字のショートカットに保存してたわww Vickyをほっといてやれよみんな ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽普通くん
Een_man_met_voornaam
I'm going to save this reaction face
この反応顔、保存してまうわwww2ちゃん
PencilgonGiveIt2Ya
go for it! I literally use it every post on here when possible lol
行け行け!ここで可能な限り毎回使ってるわ笑普通くん
TurkeyPhat
please leave Vicky and Nonna and Jeff alone you sons of bitches
ヴィッキーとノンナとジェフを放っといてよ!このクソ野郎どもが!!まじでムカつくんだけど!!ギャル
mywif4aiur
no worries brother, I get the feeling Jeff is willing wipe out a whole kingdom to keep his girl safe.
心配すんなよ、ジェフなら彼女を守るためなら国ひとつ消し去る覚悟があると思うぜ。普通くん
NanDemoKnaives
原文
It's such a big deal that Nonna can trust Victoria's words and stayed home on her own for numerous nights. I thought it might be a foreshadowing, but I'm glad it wasn't. I also like how Nonna purposely took on the role of the witch so that Victoria could be the princess instead. So it sounds like if Victoria had introduced herself as Chloe to Jeffrey, she might have fallen harder for him lol. That moment between themselves was really sweet, so I can imagine it'd have especially moved her with her name. I was surprised she was making future plans with Jeffrey that far off, but then the last scene hits with the guy who's like a brother to her revealing he knows where she is. Looks like they won't be going to Cadiz anytime soon.
ノンナがヴィクトリアの言葉を信じて、夜な夜な一人で家を守っていたのは本当に大きい出来事だよな。伏線かもと思ってたけど、そうじゃなくて良かった。ノンナがわざと魔女の役を引き受けて、ヴィクトリアがお姫様でいられるようにしたのも好きだ。もしヴィクトリアがジェフリーに自分の名前をクロエと名乗ってたら、もっと深く惹かれてたかもしれないな。あの二人の瞬間は本当に甘くて、名前を呼ばれたら特に心に刺さっただろうな。ずっと先の未来までジェフリーと計画してたのには驚いたけど、最後のシーンで兄のような存在が彼女の居場所を知ってるって明かすんだよな。どうやらカディス行きは当分お預けみたいだ。考察くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
I was more invested in Nonna’s play than Vicky’s prison break lol. Nonna played a really cute little witch! It looks like Vicky’s little domestic bliss might be coming to an end pretty soon now that they’ve found her…
ノンナの劇の方がヴィッキーの脱獄より気になってたわ。ノンナの小さな魔女、めっちゃ可愛かった!でもヴィッキーの平穏な日常も、見つかっちゃった以上もう終わりそうだね…普通くん
mianghuei
Girl was so happy to play the witch this episode!
今週の魔女役、ガチで嬉しそうやったな!😆2ちゃん
Frontier246
Honestly this feels like a point of no return for Vicky in multiple ways. She followed her personal ethics which lead her to commit a high crime against the kingdom, one she knows she has to answer for, especially considering how it impacts Jeffrey, and even with that in mind she'll also have to deal with her former employers trying to bring her back. It's liable to become a mess.
正直、これはヴィッキーにとって多方面で後戻りできない地点だと思う。彼女は自分の倫理観に従って王国への重罪を犯したわけで、自分が責任を取らないといけないってわかってるんだよね。特にジェフリーへの影響を考えると。それに加えて、元雇い主たちが彼女を連れ戻そうとしてくるだろうし。絶対めちゃくちゃになるだろうな。普通くん
BaytaCosmico
It was fun seeing Vicky go back to her spy ways for a bit and don different disguises to save that poor man. I do feel bad for the captain though and worry about what's going to happen when he eventually finds out the truth. Which may end up coming out sooner than later now that her old organisation is on her trail.
ヴィクトリアが一時的にスパイの本領を発揮して、あの哀れな男を救うために変装を重ねる展開は実に痛快だった。だが、船長のことが気がかりだ。彼が真実を知った時、何が起こるのか心配でならない。しかも旧組織が彼女の行方を追っている以上、その真実が明かされるのも時間の問題かもしれないな。考察くん
PeaceAlien
Oh no, Vicky has been spotted and identified. Her disguise was too close to the real her
やばい、ヴィッキー見つかっちゃったじゃん。変装が本人と近すぎたんだな。普通くん
melcarba
She was spotted by the organization she was previously working for. She did not bother changing her appearance, nor bother putting a disguise after leaving them.
草 前の組織に見つかってるやんwww
変装すらせずにそのまま出歩くとかガチで無用心すぎるやろ
脱退した後も警戒心ゼロなんか2ちゃん
liquidpele
I'm a bit annoyed that she would be spotted so far away. Can you imagine if you vanished in a world without photographs or TV and went to some other country, and adopted a child no less? No one would find you. FFS you could just move to the other side of the same city and barely ever see anyone ever again.
彼女がこんな遠くで見つかるってちょっとイラつくんだよね。写真もテレビもない世界で消えて、別の国に行って、しかも子どもまで養子にしたら、誰にも見つからないだろ。同じ街の反対側に引っ越すだけで、もう二度と誰にも会わずに済むのにさ。普通くん
Twilight_2408
And it's kinda funny knowing she literally crossed two damn borders before settling in here. Sad life she has there.
草、あの子マジで国境2つも越えてここに流れ着いたんか。可哀想やな、あの人生。2ちゃん
rubslotiononitsskin
She could've dyed her hair and become a full-time all-works maid!
いやそれな!髪染めてフルタイムの万能メイドになればよかったのに!笑ギャル
Frontier246
Maybe she should've gone blonde, that way she'd be even more convincing as Nonna's mother.
ブロンドにすればよかったのにね。そうすればノンナの母親役としてもっと説得力があったかも。普通くん
Ill-Vast-4693
The whole point of the Vicky identity is that the real Vicky looked close enough to the MC in general characteristics that using that identity requires no active maintenance on her part for the physical disguise. How could she expect that someone she last spoke to years ago would recognize her at a glance when crossing paths on the street by sheer coincidence?
ヴィッキーという偽名を使う最大の利点は、本物のヴィッキーが主人公と外見的特徴が十分似ていて、物理的な変装に手間をかける必要がない点にある。数年前に最後に話した相手が、街で偶然すれ違っただけで一目で気づくなど、どうして想定できただろうか。この設定は、彼女の計画性と現実的なリスク認識のバランスを巧みに描いていると考察できる。考察くん
reaperow
I had a feeling that old guy was gonna come into play later
あのオッサン、後で絡んでくる気がしてたんだよな…まさか本当になるとは思わなかったけど、マジで伏線回収エグすぎるッ!感情くん
delulu_finalboss_
Vicky's so real for the patience box thing 😂
ヴィッキーの忍耐ボックス、マジ現実的すぎるわ😂普通くん
WyvernspiritOfficial
原文
The scenes flowed together much better this episode! I admit that I was about as equally invested in the kids play as i was the breakout haha this show perfectly balances the cute family fluff with the spy espionage Also that wig was way too similar to her regular hair colour, I understand it might have been done for the viewers to know its still her but I am raising an eyebrow I will say i am a little disappointed in Vickey already getting caught, but in fairness she did leave the organization and not even cut her hair differently, however wasn't she already in disguise the first time she ran into the character? maybe im remembering wrong
今回のエピソードは場面の流れがかなり良くなったな。子供たちの劇と脱出劇に同じくらい引き込まれたのは認めるよ(笑)。この作品は、家族のほのぼのとした雰囲気とスパイのサスペンスを絶妙にバランスしてるんだよな。ただ、あのウィッグは彼女の普段の髪色とほぼ同じだったのが気になった。視聴者に「本人だよ」って分からせる意図は理解できるけど、ちょっと首を傾げたくなる。それと、ヴィッキーが早々に捕まったのは少し残念だが、組織を抜けたのに髪型すら変えてないのは確かに無謀だよな。でも待てよ、最初にキャラクターと遭遇した時点で変装してなかったか?記憶が曖昧だけど。考察くん
djthomp
原文
Witch Nonna was delightful, Clark better watch out in the future. Vicky going for the jailbreak seems incredibly risky for her undercover life especially since it took a good dozen visits or so. It was nice to see her strut her spycraft some more, but anything going wrong could have spelled doom for both her and maybe even Nonna back home depending on how a worst case scenario might have played out.
魔女ノンナは最高やったで。クラークは今後気ぃつけなあかんな。ヴィッキーの脱獄計画はアンダーカバー的にはガチでリスキーやろ。訪問だけで十数回かかっとるしな。スパイ技を見せてくれたのは嬉しかったけど、ちょっとでもミスったら彼女もノンナも終わっとったで。最悪のケース考えたら背筋凍るわ。2ちゃん
ultravioletheart08
I'M CRYING OF LAUGHTER AT THIS EPISODE Also compared to Ep 4 this has better SB/directing work with vision that actually landed well, so I checked the credits, and well, didn't expect Osamu Yamasaki and Masahiko Watanabe's names to come up.
このエピソード笑いすぎて涙出たわ。あと、第4話と比べるとSB/演出のビジョンがちゃんと着地してて明らかに良くなってる。だからスタッフ確認したら、まさか山崎理と渡辺正彦の名前が出てくるとは思わなかったな。この2人のコンビが効いてるという考察ができる。考察くん
szalhi
Who wouldn't want to be her lover? The amazing contrast between Vicky and Kate. Security breach.
え、まじで誰が彼女の恋人になりたくないって言うのよ!?ヴィッキーとケイトのギャップやばくない!?セキュリティ侵害はやばすぎだってば笑ギャル
Frontier246
Vicky insinuating she's in a relationship with multiple men while still getting courted by Jeffrey. She's a true natural.
ヴィッキーが複数の男と付き合ってる匂わせしながら、まだジェフリーに言い寄られてるの!? マジで天性の才能すぎるッ!感情くん
BaytaCosmico
It was fun seeing Vicky go back to her spy ways for a bit and don different disguises to save that poor man. I do feel bad for the captain though and worry about what's going to happen when he eventually finds out the truth. Which may end up coming out sooner than later now that her old organisation is on her trail.
ビクトリアがスパイ時代の癖で変装しまくってあの可哀想な男助けるの見れて楽しかったわ。でも船長には同情するで。真実バレた時のこと考えると心配やわ。しかも旧組織が追跡してるから、バレるの早まるかもな。2ちゃん
Frontier246
原文
Victoria's personal ethics means she can't ignore Carl's situation, even if it means she can't be there with Nonna because she has things she has to do...but so long as they get to eat dinner together, Nonna is A-okay! She trusts Vicky. Victoria brings out her many faces: "Kate," a spirited redhead with a mole trying to elope with her love under his wifes' nose. Or she's a distraught lover desperate to spend as much time with her boyfriend on death's row as she can. Or she's trying to help her brother elope with his fiancee. And she nailed EVERY role. I hope Jeffrey never finds out that some of the guards felt up Victoria's chest or saw up her skirt while giving her a full body search...and it looks like some of them enjoyed it, pervs! When she's not orchestrating a jailbreak, Victoria is teaching Nonna and Clark language via fun skits! She even gets to be the princess to Clark's prince and Nonna's evil witch! Of COURSE a spy would have a saw hidden in her boot heels. Nonna killed it as the witch! But she might be willing to lose for a play, but she won't let anyone steal Vicky from her in real life! Man, the marquess is a scumbag for the amount of women whose life he's ruined, especially when Carl's sister all knows them by name. Jeffrey taking his ladies out for dinner! And good on him to confirm that Victoria doesn't have to be afraid of getting charged for harming the prince...even while she's committing crimes as they speak. Jeffrey truly adores Victoria...and she does in turn. It felt like she would've been fine with more than just a "good night" from Jeffrey (maybe even a kiss?) though it makes her feel even more guilty...that she has relationships built on a fake name that she can't bear to part with, that she's found happiness when she knows her colleagues haven't, and knowing all the falsehoods that surround who she is now. Dang Carl, you nearly blew it! Good thing a fakeout makeout is successful! And thank goodness it was fake, she hasn't even properly kissed Jeffrey yet. Maid Victoria! She looks amazing in anything! Well, all's well that ends well. Carl and his sister escape to freedom, Victoria gets to dress up as a princess (and Jeffrey approves!), the kids' play is a success, and Victoria is even planning a vacation with Jeffrey to pay respect to her families' spirit which, from her, means everything. But she still feels guilty for giving the knights more work, especially Jeffrey, and she knows that she'll have to answer for her crimes at some point...even as the Kingdom of Hagl finally tracks her down. Imagine being noticed for her job as "Carol" the maid!
ビクトリアの倫理観からすると、カールの状況を無視できないんだよね。ノンナと一緒にいられなくても、やるべきことがあるから。でも、一緒に夕食を食べられれば、ノンナはそれでOK!彼女はビクトリアを信頼してるんだ。
ビクトリアはいろんな顔を使い分ける:「ケイト」っていう、妻の目の前で愛人と駆け落ちしようとする情熱的な赤毛の女性とか、死刑囚の彼氏と少しでも長く過ごしたいと願う悲壮な恋人とか、弟の駆け落ちを手伝う役とか。どの役も完璧にこなしてたよ。
ジェフリーが、看守たちがビクトリアの胸を触ったり、スカートの中を見たりしたことを知らないでいてほしいな…しかも何人かは楽しんでたみたいだし、変態め!
脱獄を仕切ってないときは、ビクトリアはノンナとクラークに楽しい寸劇で言語を教えてるんだ!自分がお姫様で、クラークが王子、ノンナが悪い魔女って役割でね。もちろん、スパイなら靴のかかとにノコギリを隠してるよね。
ノンナは魔女役が最高だった!でも、彼女は芝居では負けてもいいけど、現実では誰にもビクトリアを奪わせないんだ。
侯爵は本当にクズだな。彼に人生を台無しにされた女性たちの数がやばい。特にカールの姉妹がみんな名前で知ってるってのがね。
ジェフリーが女性たちを夕食に連れて行くのはいいね!そして、ビ普通くん
hvshh
I'm trying hard to withhold judgement on Jeff for not doing anything about Carl. Otherwise, impressed by Victoria putting in so much effort to set things right. It's satisfying to see how she did it without having over-the-top powers. (Just regular tomboy powers.)
ジェフがカールに何もせんのはワイも判断保留しとくわ。でもビクトリアはガチで評価高いわ。ぶっ飛んだ能力なしであそこまで事態を収めたんは気持ちええやん。(ただの男勝りパワーやけどな)2ちゃん
Frontier246
I feel like the only thing Jeffrey could do for Carl is maybe advocate for him to have a lighter sentence, but that might not have done much.
ジェフリーがカールのためにできたことって、せいぜい刑を軽くしてもらえるよう主張することくらいだったかもね。でも、それもあんまり効果はなかったかもしれないけど。普通くん
PowerSamurai
What do you expect he should have done? He was in no position to do anything and was obligated to uphold the law. You can't forget that this is a society with nobility and commoners and this man tried to kill someone of a higher class than him. It's not fair but the world rarely is.
そりゃ仕方ないやろ。立場的に何もできへんし、法律守る義務あったんやから。貴族と平民が分かれてる社会やぞ、上の身分の人間殺そうとしたんやで。不公平やけど、世の中そんなもんやろ。2ちゃん
IceSmiley
原文
I didn't expect Victoria to do all that to rescue the man, I figured he was just going to die and it would weigh on her conscience. The prison escape was really thrilling and I didn't know she had most of her spy stuff still, like a shoe with a hollow heel and a skinny hacksaw she could roll up. I wonder if she's going to go even further with this, like helping the women the Marquess raped take revenge on him somehow. I think Jeff doesn't personally really want to see the man put to death but it seems he's caught in his job and more obligated to find him. I imagine the man will probably try to move to another country although I'm not so sure how he can if they check him over like they did Victoria.
ビクトリアがあそこまでして男を救うとは思わなかったよ。普通に死んで、彼女の良心に重くのしかかる展開だと思ってた。脱獄シーンは本当にハラハラしたし、スパイ道具をまだ結構持ってたのが意外だった。かかとが空洞の靴とか、丸められる細いノコギリとかね。この先、もっと踏み込んでいくのかな。侯爵にレイプされた女性たちの復讐を手助けするとか。ジェフは個人的に男の死刑を望んでないと思うけど、仕事柄、捕まえる義務があるから動かざるを得ない感じだね。男はおそらく国外に逃げようとするだろうけど、ビクトリアみたいに検査されたらどうやって逃げるのか疑問だよ。普通くん
runevault
原文
Vicky gonna be a lady of the night for a while sounds like So she is going to save the guy who tried to murder the shitbag. Not surprised, she probably feels responsible for getting him caught even though she had no idea what was going on. lol the kids fighting over Vicky is adorable. Oh no that guy recognized Nonna. Sad the play isn't animated but it is still adorable. Oh I was wrong, he recognized Vicky. Oh fuck. Well the cute is likely about to get even less common after this.
ビッキーがしばらく夜の女になるってよwww
つまり、殺人未遂したクソ野郎を助けに行くってことやんな
驚かへんで、多分自分が捕まえた責任感じてるんやろな、何も知らんかったのに
子供らがビッキー巡って喧嘩してるの可愛すぎやろ草
あっ、あの男ノンナに気づいたやんけ
アニメ化されへんのは悲しいけど、それでも可愛いわ
おっと、間違えた、気づいたのはビッキーやったわ
あーやべえ
この後はもう可愛い展開も減りそうやな2ちゃん
Frontier246
Vicky gonna be a lady of the night for a while sounds like She looks good in a corset.
ヴィッキーがしばらく夜の女になるって話、コルセット姿が似合いそうだよね。普通くん
Flying-Camel
Wrong, Vicky looks good in anything.
間違ってるわ、ビクトリアは何着ても似合うンゴwww2ちゃん
Silver_Push_3895
原文
It's a weird writing: The world building makes no sense at all. Art has better and worse moments but Animation is just barely average. Character's design is bland. Backstories are facepalm. Dialogues are plain. And don't let me even start with pace: only other Anime this season I can think of with a worse narrative pace is that Heavy Knight stuff. Still here I am: episode 5 and with not even the slightest intention to drop it. I know I'm in love not when I think she's perfect... is when I can clearly see each and every one of her frailties and shortcomings but those just make me love her even more. So my only rational explanation is I fell in love with this show. Dumb me.
変な作品だよな。世界観の設定は全然意味不明だし、作画も良し悪しが激しいし、アニメーションは平均以下の出来。キャラデザも薄っぺらいし、過去話は頭を抱えるレベル。セリフも平坦だし、テンポに関しては語るまでもない。今期でこれよりひどい展開のアニメはあのヘビーナイトのやつくらいだ。でもな、まだエピソード5で、しかも全然切る気がないんだよ。完璧だと思うから好きになるんじゃなくて、欠点や短所がはっきり見えるのに、それでも好きになっちゃうってのが本当の恋だと思うんだ。だからまあ、俺はこの作品に恋しちゃったんだろうな。バカだよな。普通くん
tripleaamin
原文
Direction and presentation do a lot even when the show doesn't have the most resources for it. Excluding last week I think the anime has done a good job. The pacing is slow yes, but the main trio is really endearing. Especially when each of them acts their age. This really helps with the slow pacing that the anime has. Tbh despite being a fantasy setting this feels closer to SxF where it's closer to the real world in some European setting. So I think the world-building is fine for what it is going for. Vicky's weakness is how kind she is. But I think that kindness is what makes her stand out and makes her feel really endearing. She adopted Nonna and helped Carl when she didn't need to. Though the ironic thing is being caught at dinner is what gives the organization the lead on her.
演出と構成の力って、リソースが十分じゃなくても作品を大きく支えるんだよな。先週を除けば、このアニメはよくやれてると思う。テンポは確かに遅いけど、メイン三人組が本当に愛らしいんだ。特にそれぞれが年齢相応に振る舞うところがな。これがスローペースな進行を補ってるんだよ。正直、ファンタジー設定でありながら、どちらかと言うと『SPY×FAMILY』に近い感覚で、ヨーロッパ風の現実世界寄りだと思う。だから世界観構築は、狙いに対して十分機能してるという考察ができる。
ヴィッキーの弱点は優しさだよな。でもその優しさこそが彼女を際立たせて、愛らしく感じさせるんだ。ノンナを養子にしたり、カーラを助けたり、必要ないのに手を貸してる。皮肉なのは、夕食の場で見つかったことが組織に彼女の手がかりを与えたってことだよな。考察くん
PinkGlitterLady4
You think the pacing is.. slow? 😄
ペースが遅いって思ってるの?😄普通くん
PinkGlitterLady4
What's bothering you about the worldbuilding and the backstories? If that's a bland character design I don't want to see what real bland character designs look like. A unique look doesn't make it automatically good. They are rushing the story but that was to be expected when you consider it's only getting 9 episodes.
ワールドビルディングと過去編の何が不満なんや?あれでキャラデザが地味とか言うなら、ほんまの地味デザイン見たことないやろ。見た目が独特やからって自動的に良いわけちゃうしな。ストーリー駆け足なのは分かるけど、全9話やししゃーないやろ。2ちゃん
SecretYogurtcloset57
Vicky did the right thing freeing the brother like fuck that marquess guy fr Also I really don't like how loyal Jeff is to the kingdom i hope he stands up for Vicky because it's about to get crazy now since those piece of shits found out where Vicky is
ヴィッキーが弟を解放したのは正しい判断だったよな。あの侯爵とかいうクソ野郎はマジでクズだわ。あと、ジェフがあそこまで王国に忠誠を尽くすのが個人的に気に入らない。ヴィッキーの味方になってほしいところだ。あいつらがヴィッキーの居場所を突き止めた以上、これから修羅場が待ってるのは間違いない。考察くん
NationalStrategy_X
Looks like Vicky/Chloe has been identified. Hopefully she can maintain her new happy life
ビクトリア/クロエが特定されたみたいだね。新しい幸せな生活を続けられるといいな普通くん
etiolatezed
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"Vicky" never operated within the law so this is norm. Her being found will lead to things. The Captain just a decent soul caught up in it. It feels like everyone in the kingdom roots for Captain but also knows he can be a fool. It's not actually vicky who is the linchpin of the story but him, because there's not much story without him and the child. And the child is already down with the spy lifestyle.
「Vicky」は元々法の枠組みの外で動いてたから今回もいつも通りやろ。見つかれば色々起きるわな。キャプテンはただの善人で巻き込まれただけや。王国中がキャプテン応援してるけど、同時にアホやとも知られてる感じやな。実は物語の要はVickyじゃなくてキャプテンなんや。彼と子供がいなきゃ話が成立せんからな。しかもその子供はもうスパイ生活に染まってるンゴwww2ちゃん
tripleaamin
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Considering she took in Nonna we know she had a good heart. I guess she feels guilty for Carl being bound to be executed. More so knows can't imagine what his sister would do considering what's happening to her. Nice to see the plan work well. Interestingly, the organization has a lead and it's just from going out to dinner with Jeffrey. We are curious how long it takes for them to play catch-up. I found it amusing Nonna was determined to play the witch lol.
ノンナを引き取ったことから、彼女はいい心の持ち主だって分かるよね。カールが処刑される運命なのは、きっと罪悪感があるんだろう。それに、妹が今の状況で何をするか想像もできないって思ってるはず。計画がうまくいって良かった。面白いのは、ジェフリーと夕食に行っただけで組織に手がかりがバレたことだね。彼らが追いつくまでどれくらいかかるか気になる。ノンナが魔女役に固執してたのは笑えたわ。普通くん
Rooby_VTuber
That was some brilliant acting from Victoria, also no surprise considering her previous background and what a professional she is. Unfortunately the organization has found out about her, will she ever find peace?
ヴィクトリアの演技は見事だったな。彼女のこれまでの経歴やプロとしての姿勢を考えれば、驚くべきことではないが。ただ、組織に正体がバレてしまった以上、彼女に平穏が訪れる日は来るのだろうかという考察ができる。考察くん