放送 2026-07-21更新 2026-07-28
fraid_so
Lmfao. Idgaf what anyone says. That bartender ain't just a bartender 😂
草。誰がなんと言おうと、あのバーテンダーただのバーテンダーちゃうやろwww😂2ちゃん
NanDemoKnaives
They're likely in the same line of work lol.
同じ業界の人なんだろうな笑普通くん
diacewrb
Yeah, those cocktail glasses are far too technologically advanced for people still dressed up as knights and fighting with swords.
確かに!!騎士の格好で剣振り回してる世界観なのに、カクテルグラスだけ未来すぎるww その違和感エモいなw感情くん
karer3is
This episode was kind of jarring in that regard. Up until now, I would've believed this show took place in some fictional version of the 1800s (esp. with the clothes), but seeing fully armored knights getting massacred by catapults was just weird
このエピソードはその点でちょっと違和感あったな。今までは1800年代の架空の世界を舞台にしてると思ってたんだけど(特に服装とか)、装甲した騎士がカタパルトでやられまくるのを見ると変な感じだった。普通くん
themaninthehightower
Victoria takes a quick detour to Bartender: Glass of God , then back to the regularly scheduled story.
まあビクトリアがちょっと「バーテンダー 神のグラス」に寄り道して、また本筋に戻っただけだな。普通に良かったよ。ドライおじ
Frontier246
It almost seemed like Victoria knew which is why she went in there? Even if they just had a seemingly normal conversation.
ビクトリアは何か知ってたからあそこに行ったのかな?たとえ普通の会話にしか見えなかったとしても。普通くん
fraid_so
原文
No idea haha I just meant my original comment based on the credits. Even though the bartender only had 4 lines, he was voiced by Furukawa Makoto (who's not typically cast as a mob character), and in the credits bartender had a name, and Furukawa Makoto, despite his 4 lines, was credited ahead of Ono Kensho and Oosaka Ryouta who voiced the princes. Being credited ahead of two actors who had far more to do with this episode indicates that bartender is an important character hahah
知らんけどwww ワイが言いたかったのはエンディングのクレジット見て思ったことやねん。
バーテンダー、セリフたった4行しかなかったけど声優が古川慎(モブキャラにキャスティングされないタイプ)やったんやで。
しかもクレジットで名前が載ってて、あの4行しかないのに王子役の小野賢章と逢坂良太より上に書いてあったンゴwww
あの2人よりエピソードでの出番少ないのにクレジット順が上ってことは、バーテンダー重要キャラ確定やろなあ草2ちゃん
StrigidaeNinox
It’s so damn refreshing to have protagonists and side characters with a functional brain. I strongly suspect I’ll end up reading ahead of the rest of the anime at this point.
このアニメの主人公も脇役もみんな頭いいからホントに爽快だわ。このペースだとアニメ待ちきれずに原作読んじゃいそうだな。普通くん
Frontier246
Also a female lead who is as competent and capable as she is beautiful. And a romance that doesn't detract from her competence and individuality.
このヒロイン、美しさと同等の力を秘めておる…その才覚、まさに天賦のものよ。そして彼女の存在を損なわぬ恋愛模様…これこそが、真の意味での理想の絆というものだ。中二病
PinkGlitterLady4
I can't recommend the manga enough. Of course if you want more details read the LN as well but imo the manga has more charm 😊
マンガはめちゃくちゃおすすめだよ。もちろん詳細を知りたいならライトノベルも読んでほしいけど、個人的にはマンガの方が魅力あると思う😊普通くん
Inspectorpetit
¿Saben donde podría leerlos de manera digital?
あれ、これデジタルで読める場所知ってる人いる!?教えてほしいんだけど!ギャル
PinkGlitterLady4
Yen Press officially, for unofficial way.. just google
Yen Pressが公式で、非公式ならググれば出てくるよ普通くん
JT918
I ended up reading all of it after the first episode. Highly recommend
一話見た後、全部読んじゃったよ。超オススメすぎるッ!感情くん
Ensec
im so sick of light novels that have characters that never ask follow up questions or put the most obvious two and two together. this story is certainly nice in that regard i agree!
ふむ、某も同感に存ずる。よくあるラノベの如く、問い詰めぬ腑抜けや、火を見るより明らかな因果を見逃す愚か者が出てこぬのは、実に心地よき物語でござるな。武士
BosuW
Just the guard with good eyes being an inconvenience that the main character could not have planned for and immediately has far reaching consequences gives me so much confidence for this story.
ただの目が良い警備員が主人公の想定外の障害になって、すぐに大きな結果を引き起こす展開、これだけでこの物語にめっちゃ自信持てるわ。普通くん
mianghuei
The spark of love is a necessity in life Word, Lady Yolana, word! Her playing matchmaker here is awesome, guess she might know about Jeffrey 's situation as well, which is quite tragic.
ワイも言いたいわ「その通りや、ヨラナ姐さん!」草
恋の火付け役とかガチで有能すぎやろ
ジェフリーの事情も知ってての行動なんかな…悲しすぎるンゴねぇ…2ちゃん
Frontier246
I love how Vicky's wingwoman is a cool old lady who can babysit so she can spend all night with her knightly boyfriend (whether she cops to it or not).
ヴィッキーの恋の味方が子守りしてくれるクールなおばあちゃんで、騎士の彼氏と一晩中過ごせるようにしてくれるのがいいね(本人が認めるかは別として)。普通くん
reaperow
Lady Yolana saying that was pretty sweet, she's definitely saying it because of her own experiences
レディ・ヨラナが言ったこと、めっちゃ沁みたんだけど!絶対自分の経験から言ってるよね、やばくない!?ギャル
ShadowGuyinRealLife
How come we didn't meet her husband yet? Or maybe she's widowed?
草、旦那まだ出てきてないんか?それとも未亡人説あるンゴ?2ちゃん
Primary-Paint-1716
this show is way better than it has any right to be.
このアニメ、見た目よりずっと面白いわw まじクオリティ高すぎ笑wwwおじ
alconnow
It’s a real shame that it’s only 9 episodes
たった9話なんてマジで悲しすぎるッ!もっと見たかったよぉ…しんどい感情くん
Saber_SSJ2
whaaaat?! noooo
えっ!!まじで!?やばくない!?そんなのありえなくない!?ギャル
SSjjlex
on the bright side though, the strange episode count probably means we'll be getting a pretty conclusive story. if it isn't then I don't know why else it would be that way
まあ良く言えば、あの変な話数はちゃんとした完結を見せてくれるってことだろうな。もしそうじゃなかったら、わざわざああする理由もないしな。ドライおじ
MryNightmare
Oh…. That means theyre prob only adapting the first volume then. Makes sense though
あー……つまり1巻分だけアニメ化ってことか。まあ納得だね普通くん
Shimmering-Sky
原文
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mekerpan
Really? I did not notice that !!!!
え?それ全然気づかなかったわ!!普通くん
alconnow
Yup. 9 episodes across three blu-ray/DVD volumes
マジで!?3巻に分けて9話だけってやばくね!?ギャル
reaperow
Definitely, its really good and im enjoying this more than i thought I would!!
確かに、めっちゃ面白いよね。思ってたよりずっと楽しめてる!普通くん
LaoWombat-mecha
By respecting the intelligence and the capacity of the audience for nuance and detail.
視聴者の知能と細かいニュアンスを理解する力を信頼してるってことやろ。そこがいいわ。2ちゃん
KumaKumaGambler
Jeffrey is a loyal subject to his country, but his resentment will surely increase should the actions of the royal family cause him to lose the people whom he loves once again. Conrad seems to be on Jeffrey's side, but I am not too sure about the King nor Cedric.
ジェフリーは国に対して忠誠心があるけど、王室のせいでまた大切な人を失うようなことになったら、確実に不満が溜まっていくと思う。コンラッドはジェフリーの味方っぽいけど、王様やセドリックはちょっと怪しいな。普通くん
reaperow
Cant exactly blame the King for that, she does seem suspicious from what evidence they have on her, I hope they dont catch onto her, it'll make not just her's but also Jeff and Nonna's lives hard
いや、王様も責められないよね〜確かに証拠からすると怪しく見えるじゃん?でもバレないでほしい!バレたら本人だけじゃなくて、ジェフとノンナの生活も大変になっちゃうからマジでやばいんだけど!ギャル
mekerpan
Mysterious? Yes. Suspicious? If she was a threat that warrants "suspicion", why would she warn about the would-be assassin? And then make certain he did not get away?
謎めいてるよね。怪しいかって言うと…もし本当に危険なやつなら、なんで暗殺者を警告したんだろう?しかも逃がさないようにしてたしな。普通くん
lasse1408
she could use this guy as scapegoat to earn more trust from Jeffrey which would allowed here to get close to royal family
やばっ!この男をスケープゴートにすれば、ジェフリーからの信頼もっと得られるじゃん!そしたら王室にも近づけるってわけね!ギャル
The_Parsee_Man
She doesn't have to be part of that particular plot to be suspicious. Someone showing up out of nowhere, immediately getting close to high ranking people, and having unusual skills in apparently everything is enough that they'd want to investigate her. Of course, once she explains that she used to be a tomboy, I'm sure they'll be satisfied.
彼女がその特定の筋書きに関わってなくても怪しいってのはわかるよ。突然現れて、すぐに高位の人間と親しくなって、しかも何でもできちゃうのは調査したくなるのも当然だよね。でも、昔はおてんばだったって説明すれば納得してくれるんじゃないかな。普通くん
Greg_The_Rabbit
Doesn't matter if the mysterious spy is helping you, they are still a mysterious spy. It would be way worse if the king didn't look into her. Also just because they do look into her and find her sus, doesn't necessarily mean they are going to do anything to disrupt her life.
せやな、謎のスパイが助けてくれようがスパイはスパイやろ。王様が調査しない方がむしろヤバいわ。それに調べて怪しいって判明しても、すぐに生活をぶっ壊すとは限らんしな。2ちゃん
ShadowGuyinRealLife
Yeah I pointed that out earlier. It doesn't make sense to do this as a false flag ploy to gain trust since Jeffery approached Victoria, making it unlikely for her to be a honey pot trying to worm her way into politics. So even from their limited perspective they should think her warning was genuine.
確かに俺も前に指摘したんだけどさ。ジェフリーの方からビクトリアに近づいてる時点で、罠で信頼を得ようとしてる可能性は低いと思うんだよね。政治に潜り込もうとしてるハニーポットって線も考えにくいし。彼らの限られた視点でも、警告は本物だって思うべきだよね。普通くん
Frontier246
原文
Honestly the moment he finds out Victoria is being tailed (and she will definitely notice it herself), he's probably not going to take it well even if there is a lot of conspicuous stuff about Victoria that the kingdom can't really ignore. That being said, how would they respond if they found out she was a former spy? Assuming she's still spying for her kingdom? Try to recruit her? She did foil an assassination attempt and hasn't really pried into anything political at all.
ふむ…彼がヴィクトリアが尾行されていると知った時(彼女自身も当然気づくであろうが)、王国が無視できない多くの目立つ要素があるとしても、その衝撃は計り知れぬものとなるだろう。されど、もし彼女が元スパイであると判明した時、彼らは如何なる手を打つのか?未だに祖国のために諜報活動を続けていると仮定するならば…彼女を勧誘しようとするか?実際、彼女は暗殺未遂を阻止し、政治的な領域には一切踏み込んでいないのだがな。中二病
runevault
原文
What a fucking dark opening to the episode after how cute the first 2 were. Some part of my brain is expecting the prince to ask Vicky to dance, lets see if it happens. And huh that high angle where it zoomed in sort of on the pair was ominous. And Vicky is so damn hot. She initiated her tomboy powers to jump out a window, why? Oh that's why. Holy shit she DESTROYED him. She didn't account for a guard with abnormally good night vision, though luckily he only saw her back. Oh and the color of her dress, that's bad. Man this episode is so heavy after the last two. I've been expecting things to get less sweet and cute, but not this fast. Oh wow he admitted not just to himself but to the prince he's in love. And there's the other shoe, looking into her.
最初の2話が可愛かっただけに、この暗い展開はマジでキツいな。王子がヴィッキーをダンスに誘うんじゃないかってちょっと思ってたけど。あのハイアングルで2人をズームしたカット、不気味だったな。ヴィッキーめちゃくちゃカッコいいし。彼女は窓から飛び降りるってボーイッシュな手段に出たけど、理由はそういうことか。マジでアイツをボコボコにしたな。でも夜目が異常に効く衛兵には気づかれなかったけど、背中だけ見られちゃった。あとドレスの色がヤバい。このエピソード、前の2話と比べて重すぎるよ。甘くて可愛い展開が終わるのは予想してたけど、ここまで急とは。うわ、自分だけでなく王子にも恋してるって認めたのか。そしてもう片方の靴が落ちた、彼女を調査しろって。普通くん
Ocixo
I would’ve laughed so hard if the guards had in fact caught her incapacitating the assassin and she’d responded with “I used to be a tomboy” again.
草www もし警備員が暗殺者を無力化してるとこ見つかって、また「昔はおてんばだったんだ」って言ったら爆笑もんやったなw2ちゃん
Frontier246
Victoria: "I was just getting some air gentlemen when this man just...fell in front of me!"
ビクトリア:「ちょっと外の空気を吸ってただけなんだ、紳士諸君。そしたらこの人が突然…目の前に落ちてきて!」普通くん
i_reddit_too_mcuh
"And then his neck fell on my karate chop!"
「そしたら奴の首がワイの空手チョップにドンピシャやったンゴwww」
草不可避やろこんなん2ちゃん
BosuW
"Then his stomach on my knee, and his face on my shoe!"
「そしたら彼のお腹が俺の膝の上に乗って、顔は靴の上に落ちたんだ!」普通くん
i_reddit_too_mcuh
Guard: But it's not befitting a lady to raise her knee and shoe like that. Victoria: I used to be a tomboy...
ガード「淑女がそんな風に膝を上げて靴を見せるなんてね」
ビクトリア「昔はお転婆だったんだよ…」
このやり取り好きだわw 淑女の仮面の下に昔の自分がいる感じがいいよな笑wwwおじ
runevault
lol considering someone just posted the hat clip this tickled me way harder than it should have.
笑ったw 帽子のクリップを誰かがちょうど投稿したばかりだから、これが想像以上にクるわwww感情くん
Frontier246
She initiated her tomboy powers to jump out a window, why? Oh that's why. Holy shit she DESTROYED him. She's like the second coming of Rishe from 7th Time Loop.
彼女は窓から飛び降りるため、おてんばパワーを発動させたでござる。なぜか? ああ、そういうことか。なんと、奴を完全に打ちのめし申した! まるで『7回目のループ』のリーシェの再来であるな。武士
ultravioletheart08
I'm sure if there's a crossover, Vicky and Rishe will be friends LOL
クロスオーバーあったら絶対ヴィッキーとリーシェは友達になるよねw普通くん
mekerpan
The ending of this left me feeling stressed out. If I was not already busy reading the Agents of Four Seasons LN series, I would probably start self-spoiling this series. I have been wondering how her former kingdom would track Victoria down -- but can see that this inquiry into her in Randall could easily be the catalyst that allows her whereabouts to be discovered. Damn it !!!
この終わり方、かなり精神的な圧迫感があるな。もし既に『四季のエージェント』のライトノベルシリーズを読んでいなければ、多分このシリーズを自分でネタバレし始めてたかもしれない。彼女の元王国がどうやってヴィクトリアを追跡するのか気になってたんだが——ランドールでのこの調査が、彼女の居場所がバレるきっかけになる可能性が高いと見て取れる。くそっ!!!考察くん
runevault
The inquires being how her old boss finds her was my thought as well. It feels too obvious not to be and the core cast are too competent for something like that to slip by the agency.
それな!私も同じこと思ったんだけどさ、元上司がどうやって彼女を見つけたかって話だよね。やばくね?あんまりにもわかりやすすぎるし、主要メンバーが有能すぎて組織がそんなミス見逃すわけないじゃん!ギャル
rubslotiononitsskin
Vicky was just practicing yoga and the culprit just happened to fall into her arm stretching!
確かに!ビクトリアがヨガの練習してただけで、犯人たまたま腕伸ばしに落ちてきたんか!偶然すぎて笑ったわww感情くん
TheBusStop12
原文
Damn, so did his former fiancee commit suicide? That's heavy. I can't even imagine how difficult that must be to deal with One thing I always look at with these kind of shows, are the dance scenes 2d or 3d. And if 2d, are the fully animated or mostly moving stills. This was a good dance scene. I'm not actually 100% sure if it was fully 2d, but even if they used 3d they blended it well to make it barely noticable I appreciate that the Princes and the guards aren't complete idiots and based on the clues provided have already deduced that Victoria might have played a part. I guess Victoria slipped up, but as she stated it's been a hot minute since she's done something like this and it very much was a spur of the moment thing, not a well planned out operation
元カノ自殺したのか…それは重いな。どう対処すればいいか想像もつかないわ。
こういう系の作品でいつも気になるのが、ダンスシーンが2Dか3Dかってとこ。もし2Dなら、フルアニメなのか動く静止画メインなのか。今回のダンスシーンは良かったよ。完全に2Dかは断言できないけど、3D使ってたとしても違和感なく混ざってたしな。
王子たちや衛兵がただのバカじゃなくて、手がかりからビクトリアが関与してるって見抜いてるのは良いね。ビクトリアもミスったんだろうけど、本人が言う通り久々の犯行で、しかも衝動的で計画性ゼロだったしな。普通くん
Ocixo
The dancing routine was much better animated than I’d anticipated if I’m honest. They might good use of various camera angles too. Well done Studio Deen!
やばくね!?このダンスシーン、予想以上にめっちゃ動いててビビったわ笑
しかもカメラワークも凝ってて超良かったじゃん!スタジオディーンまじ神!✨ギャル
mekerpan
Yes. I was surprised at how good that sequence looked.
うん、あのシーンのクオリティの高さにはマジで驚いたよ。普通くん
WyvernspiritOfficial
原文
From an animators perspective I believe the characters were always animated in 2D. What changed was when the lighting darkened, the background switched to a 3D model of the room, its most noticeable with the pillars. The flooring might not be 3D and it might just be the sides of the room? It;s hard to say. There is a slight moment at the very end where her head tilts back that might have had 3D assistance - they might have modeled and animated the characters before drawing over them - but I'm fairly certain it;s still 2D due to the distortion of the face - look at her ear - that feels very traditional in error vs how a 3D model distorts. It wasn't a very complicate dance for animating what helped elevate it truly was the use of camera angles, from low angles tilted up, to above views, to circling around, alongside that passing shot in the crowd seeing them through the wine glass. Beyond that despite the "distortion" of her face that tilting back head moment at the end was very well done and it's such a fun face angle to see in movement - you rarely ever see that in anime!
アニメーター目線で言うと、キャラは終始2Dやったと思うわ。変わったのは照明が暗くなったときやな、背景が部屋の3Dモデルに切り替わってる。柱見れば分かりやすい。床は3Dじゃないかもしらんけど、部屋の側面だけかも?って感じやな。最後に頭を後ろに倒す一瞬だけ3D補助入ってるかも——モデリングしてから描き起こした可能性はある。でも顔の歪み方見るとガチで2Dやと思うわ。耳見てみ?あれ伝統的な2Dの誤差やろ、3Dモデルの歪み方とはちゃう。あのダンス自体は複雑ちゃうかったけど、カメラワークが神ってたわ。低いアングルから煽り、俯瞰、ぐるっと回る動き、ワイングラス越しの群衆ショットとか。最後の頭倒すシーンの顔の歪みもめっちゃ良かったし、ああいう動く顔アングルはアニメで滅多に見れへんからな!2ちゃん
TheBusStop12
I just want to say I really enjoyed reading your analysis of the scene
まじであなたのシーン考察めっちゃ楽しめたんだけど!やばくね!?ギャル
ultravioletheart08
It's 2D with 3D assistance, yes. Most of the dancing is 2D though! Also they most likely used references on the dance, but given it's a Yui Kamura-directed episode, the backgrounds aren't fully 3D.
確かに2Dベースで3Dを補助的に使ってる感じだね。でもダンスシーンはほとんど2Dみたい。背景も嘉村ゆいが監督だから完全な3Dじゃないっぽい。普通くん
mianghuei
Damn, so did his former fiancee commit suicide? Pretty tragic, they thought she was strong but she was suffering internally.
草、元婚約者って自◯したってマジかよ…
外見は強いと思われてたのに内心ボロボロやったんか
ワイ「やっぱりな…」ってなってもうたわ2ちゃん
Pickled_Kagura
"She's strong" while she has the face of someone that lost everything and is ready to tear it all down to spite the world
「彼女は強い」って言うけど、その顔は全部失って世界に復讐するために何もかもぶっ壊す準備ができてる人の顔だよね普通くん
Frontier246
原文
People thought Katherine was emotionally strong enough to weather the loss of her brother but couldn't realize how wrong that was until it was far too late. At least Victoria is truly emotionally resilient and that seems to be what Jeffrey needs to recover from his past heartbreak. I feel like ballroom dances need to be a pre-requisite for medieval/Victorian-esque romances (provided they be animated well).
草、キャサリンは兄貴の死に耐えられるほど強いと思われてたけど、気付いた時には手遅れだったンゴwww。少なくともビクトリアはガチでメンタル強いし、それがジェフリーの過去の失恋からの立ち直りに必要なんやろな。中世・ヴィクトリア朝風ロマンスには舞踏会シーンが必須やろ(作画が良ければな)。2ちゃん
TheBusStop12
Yeah, I noticed that too. Not crying at the funeral can potentially be a very very bad sign
それな。葬式で泣かないのってマジでヤバい兆候すぎるッ!感情くん
kalirion
Victoria was so dumb for deciding to apprehend the culprit herself. And I was of this opinion even before it turned out she was noticed.
えっ、Victoriaまじでバカじゃね!?自分で犯人捕まえようなんてさ〜。しかもバレてたってオチつく前からそう思ってたんだけど笑ギャル
TheBusStop12
I do understand her logic that if he had gotten away they might have investigated everyone at the party, so she took a risk to potentially avoid it
彼女の論理はわかるッ!もし逃げられたらパーティの全員が調査対象になってたかもしれないから、リスクを取ったんだよな…。しんどいけど納得せざるを得ない…ッ!感情くん
EdibleScissors
If you want to blame anyone, blame Jeffrey for bungling the capture of the would-be assassin. (She could not have been certain this would happen.). Victoria did nothing wrong and sometimes you have no choice but to delegate crucial responsibilities. Furthermore she had to rely on a backup plan with little opportunity for preparation and she still mostly succeeded in her objective.
責めるならジェフリーを責めるべきだな。暗殺者候補の捕獲をしくじったのは彼だからね(彼女がこれを確実に予想できたわけじゃない)。ビクトリアは何も悪くないよ。時に重要な責任を委任するしかない状況もある。さらに彼女は準備の機会がほとんどない中で予備計画に頼らざるを得なかったのに、それでも目標はほぼ達成してるんだ。普通くん
kalirion
There would've been absolutely no reason for them to investigate anyone at the party who was not the culript who got away, unless they thought he came in disguised as a guest or brought in by a guest, and he certainly was not disguised as or brought in by the woman who pointed him out.
このパーティーで逃げた犯人の他に調査する理由があったとすれば、彼がゲストに変装していたか、ゲストに連れられて来たと推測していたからだろう。しかし、彼を指摘した女性が変装していたわけでも、彼女が連れてきたわけでもないという点を踏まえると、調査の必要性が薄れるという考察ができる。考察くん
themaninthehightower
If I have an unidentified attacker that escaped, everybody gets questioned, nobles included. On top of that, anyone without noble affiliation nor long-term community ties would have their background gone over with a fine-toothed comb, especially travel from other kingdoms. That draws a bullseye on Victoria, even if nothing is revealed.
確かに、身分がはっきりしない逃亡犯が出たら貴族も含めて全員取り調べだよね。加えて、貴族じゃないし長期間コミュニティに根付いてない奴は、特に他国からの旅行者なら徹底的に身元調査される。それだけでビクトリアに容疑が向くわな。普通くん
kalirion
What possible reason would you question anyone for anything other than the basic "what did you see of this man"? Why would anyone at the party be more likely to be responsible for the assassination attempt by an assassin who is obviously not them as they were in the same place at the same time and look nothing alike to boot than anyone not at the party?
この疑問は興味深い。要するに「同じパーティーにいた人物が、明らかに自分とは似ても似つかない暗殺者による暗殺未遂事件の容疑者として、なぜパーティーにいなかった人物より疑われるのか?」という論点だ。これは推理の基本ロジックに反する。アリバイが成立する人物を、外見的特徴が一致しないのに疑うのは非合理的。制作陣がこの矛盾を意図的に描いたとすれば、登場人物たちの思考の偏りや、物語上のミスリードの伏線である可能性が高い。考察くん
PinkGlitterLady4
the culprit could not have acted alone and one of the guest could have helped them?
え、それやばくない!?犯人が単独で動けるわけないし、ゲストの誰かが手助けした可能性あるってこと!?まじで考察捗るわ〜ギャル
kalirion
What help would they have needed? And MC certainly had nothing to worry about there - she was with her date from when they left for the ball, and she even hindered the perp instead rather than helping him.
彼らにどんな助けが必要だったんだろう?それに主人公は全然心配する必要なかったよね——舞踏会に行く時からデート相手と一緒だったし、むしろ加害者を助けるどころか妨害してたしな。普通くん
PinkGlitterLady4
To get inside the castle full of nobles where the security is usually better than elsewhere? Unless they worked there regularly, it wouldn't be easy to get inside and become a waiter. Victoria left for a brief while during the ball. If she wouldn't have caught him, she definitely would have been a suspect and accused of helping him flee,
この潜入方法、よく考えられてるよな。貴族の城は通常セキュリティが厳重だから、内部で働いてない限りウェイターとして入り込むのは難しい。舞踏会の間、ヴィクトリアが一時的に離れたのも伏線だと思われる。もし彼女が彼を捕まえなければ、共犯者として疑われる立場になってた可能性が高い。制作陣はそういうリスク計算も含めて脚本を組んでるんだろうな。考察くん
kalirion
If she hadn't left during the ball to catch him, she would've had nothing to worry about, as she'd been with her date from before arriving to the ball. Not to mention that she was the one who pointed him out in the first place - why would she do that if she was working with him?
確かにそうだね。彼女が最初に彼を指摘したんだから、共犯者ならそんなことしないよな。舞踏会で彼を捕まえに行かなければ、デート相手と一緒にいて何も心配することなかったのに。普通くん
ShadowGuyinRealLife
Eh, unless they knew he was working with someone, it doesn't make sense to investigate all the women. And even if they did think to check people out, the person who said "hey, I wonder if he's going to steal something" would not be on the top of the suspect list.
せやな、誰かと組んでるって知らん限り、女全員調べるって意味わからんやろ。しかも「こいつ盗むんちゃうか?」って言ったやつが真っ先に疑われるわけないしな。草2ちゃん
delulu_finalboss_
wow so the captain has a sob backstory : The granny is a W wingman lol Oh Vicky you've done it now!
お、船長にもそんな過去があったんだな… おばあちゃんは完全にWの助っ人だな笑 ビッキー、やっちまったな!普通くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
Vicky got a little reckless there, man. Chasing after the would be assassin has put her on the kingdom’s radar. And Jeff catching feelings too. It’s nice and all but the timing isn’t great. Maybe it’s time for her and Nonna to lay low somewhere..
Vickyちょっと無謀すぎやろwww 暗殺者追いかけたせいで王国にマークされてもうたやん。Jeffも感情抑えられてないし。まあええんやけどタイミング最悪すぎるンゴ… Nonnaと一緒にどっかで身を潜めた方がええんちゃうか?2ちゃん
Frontier246
She basically ran on her spy instincts because she couldn't help herself, and it might have cost her. Though her relationship with Jeffrey might be in the most danger because I feel like she might see that as a liability when her priority is protecting herself and Nonna. She already clocked how dangerous it is to get romantically involved with someone close to the crown prince.
彼女はスパイの本能で動いちゃったんだよね。自分を抑えられなくて、それが裏目に出たかも。でもジェフリーとの関係が一番危ういと思う。自分とノンナを守るのが最優先だと考えると、恋愛はリスクでしかないって気づいてるし。王太子の近くの人と恋愛する危険性はもう察してるしな。普通くん
Ocixo
Victoria’s cover has probably been in danger of getting blown ever since she’s gotten acquainted with the kingdom’s nobility.
ビクトリアのカバー、貴族たちと知り合ってからずっとバレる危険と隣り合わせだったんだよな… しんどすぎるッ!感情くん
LaoWombat-mecha
I am grateful to this community that no one has mentioned "Victoria's Secret (tm)" in the context of this series.
このコミュニティ、誰もこの作品に「Victoria's Secret(商標)」って言及してなくて感謝してるわ。普通くん
Greg_The_Rabbit
Her expression when she realized his "nagging boss" was the prince was absolutely a look of "Of all fucking guys it had to be!" lol
「うわっ、よりによってあの王子が上司だったのかよ!」って顔が草生えるわwww2ちゃん
LaoWombat-mecha
原文
She basically ran on her spy instincts because she couldn't help herself, and it might have cost her. Beg to differ. Rather than instinct, I think that she realized the consequence of an escapee and positioned herself for that contingency ahead of time. Her thought processes were stated in internal dialogue. I did not expect parabloomers in the scene. Does she carry a rocket launcher in her reticule (redditcule is where posters save their comments)?
彼女はスパイとしての本能に従って動いてたけど、それが裏目に出た可能性もあるって意見には同意できないな。むしろ本能じゃなくて、逃亡者のリスクを事前に察知して態勢を整えてたんだと思う。内心の台詞で考えが説明されてたし。パラシュート兵が出てくるとは思わなかったよ。彼女のレティクル(redditでいう保存機能?)にロケラン入ってるのかな。普通くん
Greg_The_Rabbit
It's kinda a coin flip of what exactly was motivating her but her narration at the end there does state that she was worried everyone would be interrogated if the assassination was a success and she didn't think her cover was strong enough to hold up to interrogation.
せやな、何が彼女を動かしたのかは微妙なとこやけど、最後のナレで「暗殺成功したら皆が尋問されるやろ」って言うてたな。ワイも自分の偽装が尋問に耐えられるとは思えへんって感じやわ。2ちゃん
reaperow
I've been saying that too, she definitely hasnt been keeping a low profile so its best for her to do it rn to avoid any more troubles
確かにそれな!彼女全然目立たないようにしてなかったし、今やるのがベストだよね。余計なトラブル避けるためにもッ!感情くん
Liliacfury
It was a lose-lose situation. If she didn’t capture him he would’ve gotten away and they all would’ve been investigated anyway. At least by trying to quickly subdue him there was a chance she could get away and help them close of their case faster to avoid the need for further investigations. Unlucky for her, though, some random knight with night vision happened to spot her.
どっちにしろ詰みやったやろあの状況。捕まえんかったら逃げられて、結局全員調査対象やったやん。せめて素早く制圧すれば逃げ切れる可能性あったし、事件を早く片付けられたかもしれへん。ただ運が悪かったンゴねぇ…まさか夜目が効く適当な騎士にバレるとはなw2ちゃん
BaytaCosmico
原文
Damn, that was some dark backstory about Jeffery's former fiancee. Meanwhile, Victoria's cover is in danger of getting blown with multiple members of the royal family looking into her. Her rationale for stopping that man was right. She would've been a suspect if anything happened and he wasn't caught. But now even though he was caught, she's in much the same predicament. Jeffery being in love with her will work in her favour to some extent with the prince and king possibly willing to overlook her nebulous past. But if they find out about her real work, things will get difficult indeed. A spy from another country will always be suspect. Should've known things would take a turn like this eventually, but it is a bit sad that we won't continue with the chill slice of life we were getting thus far. It's not every SoL that works for me and this one really hit the spot. Hope there's a mix of that still despite all the intrigue stuff that's now starting up.
ジェフリーの元婚約者の過去編、重かったな…。一方でビクトリアは王室の複数のメンバーに調査されて正体バレのピンチか。あの男を止めた判断は正しかったと思う。もし何か起きて捕まえられなかったら容疑者になってたし。でも捕まえた今も似たような状況だね。ジェフリーが彼女に恋してるのは有利に働くかも。王子や王様が曖昧な過去を見逃してくれる可能性はある。でも本当の仕事がバレたら厳しいだろうな。他国のスパイは常に疑われるし。こうなる運命だったとは思うけど、今までのほのぼのスライス・オブ・ライフが続かないのはちょっと寂しい。ああいう雰囲気が自分にはすごく合ってたんだよね。今後の陰謀要素と日常のバランスに期待してる。普通くん
PinkGlitterLady4
原文
I how I wish this manga would have gotten a budget like Witch Hat Atelier. It's not that the story is rushed, it's more like slow moments and conversations between Victoria and other characters in between are skipped over to cram everything into the 9 (!) episodes the anime will get, which is such a shame. It's done well but with a higher production value it maybe wouldn't fly so much under the radar. After all, the series has sold 1 million copies so far, so the japanese readers like it. Anyway, I really liked the episode and I can't wait to watch the next one 😊
この作品、『とんがり帽子のアトリエ』級の予算が与えられていたらな…と切に願うよ。ストーリー自体が駆け足というより、ビクトリアと他キャラの静かな会話や間合いが、たった9話に収めるために省略されているのが惜しい。クオリティは高いのに、もっと制作費がかかっていれば、こんなに埋もれずに済んだかもしれない。実際、シリーズ累計100万部売れてるし、日本の読者には刺さってる証拠だ。今回のエピソードは本当に良かったし、次回が待ちきれない!考察くん
bestmaokaina
This show is just absolute cinema. can't wait for next week
まじでこのアニメやばくない!?神回すぎて泣けるんだけど笑 来週まじで待てないんだが!!ギャル
szalhi
She's 99% surprises. The unsurprising part of her, is that she can't let her skills go to waste.
彼女の99%は驚きでできてるッ!残りの1%は「才能を無駄にできない」っていう執念だよな、それしか確かなものがないッ!感情くん
Frontier246
The only thing surprising was she didn't say "I used to be a tomboy" to explain away her skills in this episode.
確かに驚いたのは、彼女が「昔はおてんばだったんだ」って言って自分のスキルを説明しなかったことくらいだね。普通くん
ultravioletheart08
VICKY I LOVE YOUUUUU
ビッキーまじで大好きすぎる!!!!!ギャル
Frontier246
I love a woman who can jump from balconies in a dress, kick ass, and parkour Assassins Creed style.
バルコニーからドレス姿で飛び降りて、敵をボコボコにして、アサシンクリードみたいにパルクールする女性、最高だね。普通くん
shapular
I also love tomboys.
トムボーイすぎるッ!最高!!感情くん
mianghuei
VICKY I LOVE YOUUUUU Are you in love? Yes.
ビッキー大好きだよおおお!!恋してるの? うん、してるね。普通くん
ultravioletheart08
You can't blame me, and I don't blame Jeffrey for falling in love either :3
責められへんわ、Jeffreyが恋に落ちるのもワイは責めへんでぇ :32ちゃん
reaperow
原文
Oh so he had a fiance Her agent senses were tingling Victoria's pretty cool ! This is really tragic Indirect confession boys I wasnt expecting Jeff's past to be pretty sad, I feel bad for all of them, especially his fiancee. To lose your entire family like that would definitely affect u badly and make u lash out. I cant blame the prince or Jeff for feeling guilty over this, Looks like Victoria's now on their suspicious list cuz of her not exactly blending in propely. I just hope she can ward them off for now and keep Nonna safe Because like they say u can't escape your past and it catches up to u
なるほど、彼に婚約者がいたのか。ビクトリアのエージェント的な嗅覚が働いたね。彼女、結構クールだよな。これは本当に悲しい展開だ…間接告白かよ。ジェフの過去が結構切ないとは思ってなかった。全員に同情するわ、特に婚約者に。家族全員をああいう形で失ったらそりゃ影響でるし、怒りを爆発させるのもわかる。王子もジェフも罪悪感感じるのは責められないな。
ビクトリアはうまく溶け込めてないから、怪しまれてるっぽいね。今のうちにうまくかわして、ノンナを守ってほしい。過去からは逃げられないって言うしな。普通くん
NanDemoKnaives
原文
It was nice to learn more about Jeffrey, him having a fiancee and the history behind her death. It's sad that he lost two important people from that raid. I do find his reasoning for falling in love with her is interesting, you'd think he would want someone who can depend on him. I find it interesting that Jeffrey has seemingly not had a woman in 10 years, but is able to flirt effortlessly without reservation lol. He's really smitten by Victoria. I did like that we got to see Victoria in action, she's very agile and has no hesitation. I'm curious to see what kind of conflict we'll eventually see now that she'll be investigated.
ジェフリーの過去掘り下げ良かったわ。婚約者がいて、その死の経緯とか…あの襲撃で大事な人2人も失ったって悲しすぎるンゴ。でも彼が婚約者に惹かれた理由は興味深いな、普通は自分に依存してくれる相手を選びそうなもんやけどな。
10年も女がいなかったのに、平然と軽く口説けるジェフリー草生えるわw マジでビクトリアにぞっこんなんやろな。
ビクトリアの戦闘シーンも見れて満足。動きが俊敏で一切ためらいがない。これから調査されるってことで、どんな衝突が起きるか楽しみやわ。2ちゃん
cherryfishu
原文
I thought it was weird at first too but it does make sense. He's got a traumatic past and feels anxious at being able to support people and having that responsibility put on him bc he's afraid he'll fall short and fail everyone again (even if it wasn't his fault). Victoria being so utterly self-efficient and self-reliant takes that burden and anxiety off his shoulders. He's free to act however he'd like with her without that pressure of "a man should be responsible for a lady's wellbeing".
最初は変だと思ったけど、確かに納得できるな。彼にはトラウマがあって、人を支える責任を負うことに不安を感じてるんだよね。自分がまたみんなをがっかりさせるんじゃないかって怖がってる(たとえ彼のせいじゃなくても)。ビクトリアが完全に自立してるから、その重荷や不安が彼から消えるんだ。「男性は女性の面倒を見るべき」っていうプレッシャーなしに、彼女と自由に行動できるってわけ。普通くん
Zxzxzx0088
原文
Vicky in her lovely dress Deen really want to flex that shadow lol Damn, I love the flow of this show so much. Every character has personality and always thinking. There's no way the guard doesn't see her. Human sight is not that inferior to not notice there's someone running away in straight line so they really nailed this. And I'm very surprised Jefferey fiancée, Katherine suddenly took a knife to stab the crown prince lol rather than be the most understanding person and pat his head with the 'most kindest' face she ever do. That's a very human thing to do at least. Nobody is saint at heart. Her poker face and initial tone performance worth winning a Nobel Prize though. Well, that's one way to repel against women. Just flirt in front of them... I giggled hard when she climbed like an assassin. Now I want to see this show as AAA action-adventure game title lol. Being Vicky in this world setup gonna be fun for sure! Hmm...Furukawa Makoto as a hard-boiled guy . He's gonna be significant cast later, right.
ビクトリアが可愛いドレス姿!ディーンが影でドヤってるの最高すぎるな。この作品の流れ、本当に好き。全キャラに個性があって常に考えて動いてる。衛兵が見逃すわけないよね。人間の視覚は直線で逃げる奴を見逃すほど劣ってないから、制作陣はよくわかってる。そして驚いたのが、ジェフリーの婚約者キャサリンが突然ナイフで王太子を刺そうとしたこと。あの「最も優しい」顔で頭を撫でる聖女キャラを捨てる選択、すごく人間らしい。誰も内心は聖人じゃない。彼女のポーカーフェイスと最初の口調の演技はノーベル賞ものだわ。ああ、そういう女除けの方法もあるか。目の前でイチャつくって…彼女が暗殺者みたいに這うシーンで大爆笑した。これをAAA級アクションアドベンチャーゲームで見たいな。この世界設定でビクトリアを操作するの絶対面白い。古川慎がハードボイルド系の役か…後で重要キャラになるよね?考察くん
kalirion
Hmm...Furukawa Makoto as a hard-boiled guy. He's gonna be significant cast later, right. Probably an agent of some kind, whether or not affiliated with her old organization.
ふむ…古川慎が硬派な役か。後々重要キャラになるんだろうな。多分何かのエージェントで、前の組織と関わりがあるかどうかは別として。普通くん
Calwings
I giggled hard when she climbed like an assassin. Now I want to see this show as AAA action-adventure game title lol. All that was missing from this scene was an Animus HUD from an Assassin's Creed game.
草www 暗殺者みたいに壁登りして笑ってもうたわ
これAAAアクションアドベンチャーゲームで見てえわw
アサクリのAnimus HUDだけあれば完璧やったな2ちゃん
WyvernspiritOfficial
原文
I'm a little surprised we got the "love" word so fast but I think more time might have passed then I was aware of, learning that this anime will only have 9 episodes (!) explains it i think. Which is honestly a shame its the most standout anime of the current season for me, I had never even heard of it before now but i've been enjoying it enough that I'll be buying the light novels to read, which is high praise from me. It reminds me a little of Secrets of the Silent Witch in that its another anime with well crafted animation, developed characters and a unique feeling that seems to be slipping under the general radar. This episode was very enjoyable and unlike a lot of "ball" episodes I felt the pacing was balanced instead of rushed or too slow. Plus it was quite fun to get a "Jumping over the balcony with a big dress" scene, always love those, its a fun troupe in my opinion.
「愛」って単語がこんなに早く出てくるとはちょっと驚いたけど、思ってたより時間が経ってたのかもね。全9話って知って納得したよ。正直もったいないな、今期で一番際立ってるアニメだと思う。今まで知らなかったけど、すごく楽しんでるからライトノベル買って読もうと思ってる、俺にしては高評価だよ。『静かなる魔女の秘密』ちょっと思い出すな、作画が丁寧でキャラが立ってて、独特な雰囲気なのにあまり注目されてない感じが。今回のエピソードはすごく楽しめたし、舞踏会回でありがちなテンポの悪さがなくてバランス良かった。それに「大きなドレスでバルコニー飛び越える」シーンはいつも好きだし、楽しいお決まりだと思う。普通くん
Meander061
Plus it was quite fun to get a "Jumping over the balcony with a big dress" scene, always love those, its a fun troupe in my opinion. I love those.
「バルコニーからドレスひらひらさせて飛び降りる」シーン、めっちゃ良かったよね!ああいうの最高に好き!めっちゃエモいし優勝すぎるッ!感情くん
ultravioletheart08
The Victoria of Many Faces LN is also illustrated by Secrets of the Silent Witch illustrator Nanna Fujimi!
えっマジで!?『手札が多めのビクトリア』のラノベ、『秘密の静かな魔女』のイラストレーター藤実なんなさんが描いてるんだって!やばくね!?ギャル
ShadowGuyinRealLife
I knew Jeffery was going to admit it to himself he was in love since he already invited her to dance, but I didn't think he'd admit it to the prince.
ジェフリーがダンスに誘った時点で自分に恋してるって自覚するのはわかってたけど、まさか王子にまで告白するとは思わんかったわwww 草2ちゃん