+58
GondolaMedia
Funniest shot of the year.
Mini even calls it out!
マジで今年一番の笑えるカットじゃん!?
ミニちゃんがそれ指摘してるのやばくね!?笑ギャル+48
Kirosh2
She's going to pleasure herself with this carrot.
One way or another.
この人参で自分を慰めるつもりだな。
どういう形であれな。普通くん+33
Frontier246
Enrich yourself with the boy you're fake dating!
まあ、確かに。ミニがそれを指摘するってのが笑えるな。ドライおじ+10
oneevilchicken
I really hope she remembers to wash it after she’s done with it.
わかるッ!でも洗って返してほしいマジで!笑感情くん+10
Turnabout_
As much as this show is a hate watch, it has its moments. This was the best bit of comedy I've seen in the whole spring season.
確かに。この作品は叩きながら見てるようなとこあるけど、たまに光るシーンあるよね。今期の春アニメで一番笑ったわ。普通くん+7
BosuW
Carrotya or Kazurrot?
カロリーヤかカズロットか、どっちだよ!笑 このカットまじで今年一の面白さすぎるッ!ミニがツッコんでくれるのエモいな!感情くん+7
GondolaMedia
Kacarot?
なにそれwww カカロットと千鶴の合体キャラとかやばすぎじゃね!?笑ギャル+14
Zeta42
She misses him too
それって彼女も和也のこと想ってるってことだよね普通くん+20
CuriousBroccolli
But why in the f is carrot reminding her of him?
His hair?
Was the carrot same size as his boner in the pool?
草www ニンジンで思い出すってなんだよwww
髪の色か?
それともプールでの彼のアレと同じサイズだったってことか?w2ちゃん+10
NationalStrategy
NGL, Kazuya getting ghosted is hilarious to me, but you know what's sad (besides his pathetic bum-ass state he's in), knowing Kazuya, when they inevitably meet each other again, he'll just treat the 3 months of ghosting as water under the bridge, and go right back into simping for her, and and putting her on a pedestal.
正直言うと、和也がフェードアウトされてるの笑えるんだけど、悲しいのは(彼の情けない状態は置いといて)、また会った時、3ヶ月の連絡無しを水に流して、また千鶴にベタ惚れして崇拝し始めるんだろうなってことだよね。普通くん+46
Frontier246
Heaven forbid he actually acknowledge Chizuru having fault in anything or that she's not perfect.
Only Mini and Mami can actually call out Chizuru for her behavior.
それな!千鶴が完璧じゃないって認めるなんて絶対ないじゃん笑
まじでミニと麻美だけが千鶴の行動をちゃんと指摘できるんだよね〜ギャル+31
hanzperson
Yea, he'll definitely somehow just move on from it immediately and start simping for her again. Zero self respect. It's some weird idolization at this point. How he even managed to stand up to her at the beginning of the series is beyond me. Chizuru definitely won't be receiving any real pushback from anyone for this either.
確かに、彼はすぐにまた元通りになって千鶴にベタ惚れし始めるんだろうな。完全に自己肯定感ゼロだよね。もう偶像崇拝みたいなもんだわ。最初の方でよく彼女に立ち向かえたもんだよ。しかも千鶴はこれで誰からも批判されないんだろうな。普通くん+16
NationalStrategy
I’m surprised that none of his friends and family looked into them during this ghosting period. You expect me to believe that Grandma didn’t check in or got in touch with either of them during the holiday season?
草、それな。家族も友達も誰も連絡取らなかったんかよ。ばあちゃんが年末に二人の様子見に行かないって信じられんわwww2ちゃん+14
hanzperson
Yea, if I were them I'd probably start wondering whether they lied to me again if she doesn't show up for 3 whole months. Grandma's one of her biggest fans, she definitely should've noticed something was off.
確かに。3ヶ月も連絡がないとなると、家族や友人が「また嘘をついてるんじゃないか」と疑うのは自然な流れだよな。特に祖母は千鶴の大ファンだから、違和感に気づいてもおかしくない。この描写、リアリティを重視するならもう少し掘り下げても良かったんじゃないかという考察ができる。考察くん+11
nakorurukami
This is what a gold-digger would do to a gullible simp like Kazuya. As soon as the money drys up, she disappears.
草、マジでそれな
金目当ての女ってガチで和也みたいなカモにしか近づかんよな。金が尽きたら即フェードアウトやん。ワイ的には納得の展開やわwww2ちゃん+18
NationalStrategy
And after they covered up the lie too, no less
確かに。しかも嘘を隠蔽するために協力までしてるんだよな。普通くん+14
BosuW
Fucking hell I hate that you're right 😭
くそっ、お前の言う通りすぎて泣きそうだよ😭感情くん+11
Ok-Cod5254
原文
Sure, Mami is the villain, but Chizuru dealt a lot more emotional damage to Kazuya than she ever did with that 3 months of ghosting - leaving himself as a bum held up in his apartment pathetically.
Mini has to come in to try to speed up the plot and be a go between when they can't communicate.
Mini said that meta line about viewership being on the brink at the end, yet the series still has no current end in sight whether anime or manga. lol
まあ確かに麻美は悪役やけど、千鶴の方が和也に与えた精神的ダメージは圧倒的にデカいわ。3ヶ月も音信不通にして、ワイみたいにアパートで腐らせたんやからな。
ミニが入ってきてプロット加速させようとしてるけど、あの二人がまともにコミュニケーション取れないから橋渡し役やらされてるだけやんwww
ラストでミニが「視聴者が離れかけ」ってメタ発言かましたけど、アニメも漫画もまだ終わる気配ないンゴねぇ…草2ちゃん+40
nakorurukami
Chizuru is worst girl confirmed
確かに千鶴の方がダメージ与えてるな…でもそれがまたこの作品のいいところだと思う普通くん+20
NationalStrategy
And that’s saying something when she’s competing against Mami and Ruka
それな!マミと瑠夏と比べてマシってわけじゃないし、千鶴がワーストってまじで納得じゃん笑ギャル+12
BosuW
Fr. Like Ruka used to be my most hated but even she's calling Chizuru out like what?
Holy fuck Chizuru really dropped to the bottom of the rankings. Character so ass it completely negated her pretty privilege (and she is _very_ pretty so that says a lot).
確かに。瑠夏は以前は俺の中でも一番嫌いなキャラだったのに、彼女が千鶴を糾弾する場面があるとはな。千鶴が本当にランキング最下位に落ちたな。キャラクター性が悪すぎて、その美貌のアドバンテージ(彼女はかなり美人だが)を完全に打ち消しているという考察ができる。考察くん+9
Frontier246
She even blocked him from renting her! Literally the entire premise of the show and their relationship!
確かに。しかもレンタルすらブロックしたんだぜ!この作品の前提そのものじゃん。普通くん+19
DrTacoLord
Can Mami be the true villian after this. She’s basically an anti hero now. Vindicated by Chizuru's lack of responsibility. three fricking months!!
まあ確かに、麻美が悪役って構図は変わったな。今やアンチヒーローみたいなもんだ。千鶴の無責任さがそれを際立たせてる。3ヶ月だぞ、本当に。ドライおじ+16
Mana_Croissant
Mami is legit the hero. Kazuya is deceiving his family by acting like Chizuru is his girlfriend and giving her shit ton of money that his family earns and Chiziru is just terrible
確かに麻美がヒーローだよな。和也は千鶴を彼女って偽って家族を騙してるし、家族が稼いだ金を大量に渡してる。千鶴もひどすぎる。普通くん+11
BosuW
> Mini has to come in to try to speed up the plot and be a go between when they can't communicate.
I now see why the author created her without having her be a love rival. This three months would've been a whole other season if not for Mini being there to speak facts.
確かに麻美は悪役やけど、千鶴の方が和也に与えた精神的ダメージは3ヶ月分ガチでデカかったわな
> ミニが介入してプロット加速させつつ、コミュ障カップルの橋渡し役やってるの草
ミニが恋愛ライバルじゃないキャラとして作者が用意した理由が分かったわ。もしミニがいなかったらこの3ヶ月間、丸ごと1シーズン分になってたンゴwww2ちゃん+11
hanzperson
This is honestly the worst he's ever been as well. He would've gotten over his sadness over breaking up with Mami at the beginning of the series in time, but this lasted so long with no end in sight.
Funnily enough the manga sales were around the peak at this time when she said that line, but now the series is selling nearly the worst it ever has (thankfully).
確かに和也のメンタル的にここが一番ヤバかったな。麻美との別れの悲しみは時間が経てば治っただろうけど、これは終わりが見えずにずっと続いたからね。
面白いことに、千鶴がそのセリフを言った時が漫画の売り上げ的にはピークだったらしい。今はほぼ最低に近い売り上げだけど(ありがたいことに)。普通くん+10
PrincipeDeiPoveri
Really? 3 fucking months? Chizuru, I don't care how beautiful and hot you are, fuck off..lol
Mini confirms herself as the best character in the series; if the author had the guts, he would make Kazuya mature, leave Chizuru and he would have him end up with her (even though she deserves better)
同意。3ヶ月も待たせるってマジかよ。千鶴、どれだけ美人で可愛くても、それはないわ…笑
ミニがこの作品で最強キャラだと確定したな。作者に勇気があれば、和也を成長させて千鶴を捨てさせて、ミニとくっつける展開が見たかった(ミニにはもっと良い相手がいるけど)。考察くん+37
NationalStrategy
FR, if I was Kazuya (thank god I'm not), I would move on and deny being associated with her again. She made it clear that she wants nothing to do with me anymore, and I can't afford to put my life on hold for her.
せやな、ワイが和也やったら(実際違ってマジで良かったンゴ)さっさと次行って関わり拒否するわ。あいつが「もう関わりたくない」ってハッキリ言ったんやから、ワイの人生止めてる余裕なんてないしな。2ちゃん+17
PrincipeDeiPoveri
Yep, honestly I don't think any man would put up with being treated like that, Chizuru is fucking lucky to have found the king of simp as a love interest, in fact she is so difficult that without him she would definitely have died alone and a virgin...lol
それな。正直、あそこまで酷い扱いを受けて耐えられる男なんてそうそういないと思うわ。千鶴はマジでシンプの王様を見つけられただけラッキーだよ。あれだけ面倒な女だと、和也がいなかったら確実に孤独死&処女のままだっただろうな…笑普通くん+17
Tama47_
I would just go with Ruka from the start.
それな!最初から瑠夏一択じゃね?笑ギャル+7
Frontier246
She couldn't even send him a simple "thank you" text. Kazuya really thinks she's the perfect, impeccable, woman?
It's probably telling that his only "serious" romantic options are the most dysfunctional. Things Sumi and Mini are not.
確かに。3ヶ月も放置して「ありがとう」の一言すら送れないってのはな…和也はまだ彼女を完璧な理想の女性だと思ってるのかね?
- 彼の唯一の「真面目な」恋愛対象が一番機能不全な関係ってのが皮肉だな
- 墨やミニはそうじゃないのに普通くん+16
PrincipeDeiPoveri
原文
Yep, she's really a mature woman, as much as a middle school girl ... lol
Honestly, Sumi seems too childish to me, that's why I prefer Mini, she is the best
Honestly, the further I go with the story, the less I care about the relationship between Kazuya and Chizuru. Damn it, for me the best ending (which would make RAG rise again and greatly improve the quality of the story) would be to see Kazuya abandon all the toxic people in his life (his shitty family/friends, the indecisive Chizuru, the stalker Ruka, and the crazy Mami ) and grow as a person, finding new friends/a girl who loves and respects him. But who am I kidding, it will never happen, at least I’ll can enjoy the soap-drama; many hate it but I like it... lol
確かに、彼女の成熟度は中学生並みだな(笑)。墨はあまりに子どもっぽく感じるから、やっぱりミニがベストだよな。
正直、話が進むにつれて和也と千鶴の関係に興味が薄れてきたんだよな。個人的な理想を言うと、和也が毒のある人間関係(クソみたいな家族・友人、優柔不断な千鶴、ストーカーの瑠夏、狂った麻美)を全部捨てて、一人の人間として成長し、彼を愛し尊重してくれる新しい仲間や恋人を見つける展開が、この作品を再浮上させて最高のクオリティにすると思うんだが…まあ現実的には無理だよな。せめてソープドラマとして楽しむしかないか。嫌う人も多いけど俺は好きだ(笑)。考察くん+13
hanzperson
The worst part is that Kazuya falls into a depression for 3 months instead of moving on like a normal person. This is just an unhealthy obsession at this point. Aren't we supposed to believe these two are truly in love?
確かに。3ヶ月も引きずるって異常だよね。普通なら前に進むべきなのに。これって健康的な恋愛じゃなくてただの執着だと思う。本当に愛し合ってるって信じさせたいのに、逆効果じゃない?普通くん+14
PrincipeDeiPoveri
True, honestly it's the first time a romcom has managed to kill 90% of my interest in the main couple, the kind that I'd rather see Kazuya mature and end up alone than see him remain a simp and end up with Chizuru.
確かに。ラブコメでここまでメインカップルへの興味を90%削がれたのは初めてだな。むしろ、和也が成長して一人で終わる方が、シンプルなまま千鶴とくっつくより遥かにマシという考察ができる。考察くん+11
BosuW
I mean, not to defend them, but a relationship being disastrously toxic has never been inherently conflicting with it also being love to me.
同意w まあ擁護するわけじゃないけどさ、関係性がクソみたいに毒々しいからってそれが愛じゃないってわけじゃないんだよなw ワロタwwwおじ+7
hanzperson
That’s true, but this anime is trying to make us believe that they’re “meant for each other” and that it’s TRUE love
確かにそれな!でもこのアニメ、あの二人が「運命の相手」で「真実の愛」って信じさせようとしてるのがやばくね?笑ギャル+6
BosuW
Mini would just reject him because her true love is panty snatching
ミニはパンティ泥棒こそが真の愛だから、和也のこと断るだろうな笑普通くん+9
PrincipeDeiPoveri
A true woman of culture....lol
確かにそれは否定できないw でもそれこそがMiniの魅力だよな!完全に理解してるッ!感情くん+8
Frontier246
原文
SUMI! While all that nonsense with Kazuya and Chizuru has been going on, Sumi's been happy and having fun on what I assume are rental dates! Even if her date has no eyes! But I'm just happy to see her, even if only for a minute.
We're finally free from Hawaiians and now we're stuck with...pantsless Kazuya becoming a neurotic wreck over that kiss and his relationship with Chizuru. The EXACT thing we all wanted to see! And his fish is still calling him out for being a complete idiot spouting nonsense all the time.
I guess I'm not surprised that Ruka would make a stink even when they got back. It's all she can really do at this point.
Then again I can't blame him for not understanding Chizuru's feelings because she's so wishy-washy in expressing them, and she is in her own way as much a nervous wreck as he is. Of course that doesn't give her any excuse to GHOST HIM FOR THREE MONTHS. She couldn't even send him a simple text! Who does that!?
Thank goodness Mini is here as the only character with actual common sense, just as Kazuya has basically given up on life (but thankfully not feeding his fish). She is so happy her favorite ship kissed and while these two are doubting/overthinking everything, she's the only one who can see the actual romance development for what it is! Kazuya (and the show) REALLY needs her right now.
Mini's finally caught Chizuru! Who despite realizing she acted terribly to Kazuya...doesn't seem to feel that guilty about it. In fact she's STILL in denial over her feelings because she can't seem to understand love at all even when it's staring her in the face and she'll keep using her job and Ruka as an excuse. Mini, steal this dumb girls' panties!
"Viewerships on the brink, ya know?" Truer words were never spoken, Mini.
【桜沢墨登場回】和也と千鶴のゴタゴタが続く中、墨はレンタルデートで楽しそうにしてたな。目がない相手とのデートでも幸せそうで、短い登場でも彼女が見られて良かった。
【ハワイアン編終了→現状分析】ようやくハワイアン編が終わったと思ったら、今度はパンツなし和也がキスの件で千鶴との関係に神経症的に悩む展開。まさに我々が見たかったものだ!しかも彼の魚が相変わらずバカ呼ばわりしてるのが面白い。
【瑠夏の反応】帰ってきても瑠夏が騒ぐのは予想通り。今の彼女にできることはそれくらいしかない。
【千鶴の態度分析】千鶴の気持ちが読めない和也を責められないのも事実。彼女の感情表現は曖昧で、彼と同じくらい情緒不安定だ。とはいえ3ヶ月も音信不通にする言い訳にはならない。たった一言のメッセージすら送れないって、普通ありえないだろ。
【ミニの存在価値】現実的な常識人であるミニが救い。和也が人生諦めかけてる中(魚の餌やりは忘れず)、彼女は推しカップルのキスに大興奮。二人が考えすぎてる間も、彼女だけが本当の恋愛の進展を正しく認識してる。和也にも、この作品にも、今こそミニが必要だ。
【千鶴の自己認識】ミニがついに千鶴を捕まえた!和也に酷いことをした自覚考察くん+19
BosuW
> "Viewerships on the brink, ya know?" Truer words were never spoken, Mini.
She's a whole season late to be saying that
確かに、ミニのその言葉は完全に的を射てるね。でも言うタイミングとしては1シーズン遅すぎだわ。普通くん+13
ptd163
> Who despite realizing she acted terribly to Kazuya...doesn't seem to feel that guilty about it.
Unless I misunderstood what she was saying I think she was saying what she doesn't feel guilty for was kissing Kazuya in front of Ruka like she did. I don't think she commented on if she feels guilty about the ghosting. She only said why she did it.
確かに…我が目に映る限り、彼女は和也への非道を自覚しながらも、その行為に罪悪感を抱いているとは思えぬ。キスを瑠夏の前で仕掛けたことへの後悔はないと言っているのだろう。無視した件については語らず、ただ理由だけを述べたに過ぎぬ。中二病+6
SCVGoodT0GoSir
In Japanese she says:
> もう視聴継続ギリギリっすよ
Which actually does mean "Viewership retention is on the brink."
(You can even confirm this on Google Translate)
「もう視聴継続ギリギリっすよ」って日本語で言ってて、実際に「視聴維持が限界ぎりぎり」って意味なんだよ(Google翻訳でも確認できる)。
これマジでヤバいッ!視聴者離れの危機すぎる!感情くん+5
ObvsThrowaway5120
原文
It’s nice to see Sumi’s doing well and working to be less shy when she’s working. I like her a lot because there’s no drama or bullshit around her. She’s just tryna live her best life.
Look what happens when Chizuru leaves Kazuya on read for 3 months. Like damn you sad little simp, you live like this?
Kazuya doesn’t deserve a hype woman like Mini. She’s too good for that sad sack. Girl’s out here confronting Chizuru on his behalf and trying to help Chizuru understand her own feelings too.
墨がちゃんと成長してて、仕事中は恥ずかしがらずに頑張ってるのを見るのはいいね。彼女の周りにはドラマや面倒事がなくて、ただ自分の人生を楽しもうとしてるからすごく好き。
千鶴が3ヶ月も既読無視した結果がこれかよ。おいおい、お前そんな惨めな生活してんの?かわいそうなシンプル野郎。
和也にはミニみたいな応援してくれる人はもったいないよ。あの落ち込み男には勿体なさすぎる。彼女は和也の代わりに千鶴と話し合って、千鶴自身の気持ちも理解させようとしてるんだから。普通くん+14
NationalStrategy
原文
The 3 month ghosting raises a lot of questions.
. They live right next door to each other, so how much of an effort did Chizuru put into avoiding him?
. They go to the same college and are in a friend circle. did they never encountered each other?
. Did he go to his part-time job?
. Kibe, the Kazuya's parents, and grandma still believe in the cover up lie that they're actually dating, so assuming that they didn't get in touch with him at all in the past 3 months, did Kazuya have to making up another lie to cover up the ghosting?
"Hey Kazuya, how's Chizuru, I haven't seen her in a while?"
Kazuya: Oh.... she's fine, she's just been busy with acting and work...."
There's a lot to unpack with this ghosting situation
3ヶ月の連絡絶ち、いろいろと疑問が湧くよな。
・隣同士に住んでるのに、千鶴はどれだけ避ける努力をしたんだろう?
・同じ大学で友達グループも同じなら、一度も遭遇しなかったのか?
・和也はバイトに行ってたのか?
・木部、和也の両親、祖母はまだ偽の恋人関係を信じてるわけで、この3ヶ月間誰とも連絡取ってないと仮定すると、和也はまた別の嘘でごまかさなきゃいけなかったんじゃないか?
「おい和也、千鶴はどうだ?最近見かけないけど」
和也「ああ…元気だよ、演技と仕事で忙しいみたいで…」
この無視の状況、掘り下げる要素が多すぎる。考察くん+15
Ok-Cod5254
原文
>The 3 month ghosting raises a lot of questions.
In addition to what you said:
Yeah, no inviting Chizuru over for the holidays or anything from the family? Especially since they were at the level to give her a ring. The next episode preview indicates that it's sometime in Feb to be around Valentines day now.
Also Ruka who was clinging on Kazuya after the trip is suddenly not shown. Has she popped in to check on Kazuya to be invasive like she usually is? So need some type of explanation for what happened with her for that time.
The author just skipped time, but may not care to address the grander story for it. lol
>>3ヶ月の放置は色々と疑問が残るわな
それに加えて:
そうそう、千鶴をクリスマスや年末に呼ぶとか家族から一切なかったんか?特にあの指輪渡すレベルの関係だったのに。次の話の予告見るともう2月でバレンタイン前後っぽいしな。
あと旅の後で和也にベッタリだった瑠夏が急に出てこなくなったけど、あいついつものようにチェックしに来てないんか?その辺の説明が欲しいわ。
作者は時間飛ばしただけで、その間の大きな話はどうでもいいってことなんか?草2ちゃん+12
NationalStrategy
You actually raised a good point, what happened during Christmas and New Years? Knowing his family, they would’ve definitely got in touch with them and/or gone to check in on them. And again, what about school and his job, was he bumming around during December?
It’s a major indication of poor writing when you have a timeskip, but don’t address the events that happened in between.
同意。クリスマスや年末年始の空白期間、確かに考察すべき点が多い。和也の家族なら絶対連絡か様子見に行ってるはず。学校やバイトはどうしてたのか、12月中フラフラしてたのか?タイムスキップを入れるなら、その間の出来事に触れないのは明らかに構成の粗さだよな。制作陣の意図が読めない部分だ。考察くん+6
hanzperson
They'll probably address the Ruka absence from the ghosting later, but it's definitely weird we don't see what the major holiday invites are like. Wouldn't Ruka still show up to those and try and curry favor from his family again? It makes absolutely 0 sense and is only put in for empty drama.
同意。草生えるわその指摘。
・瑠夏の不在は後で触れるやろな
・でもクリスマスとかのイベント招待シーン丸々カットは不自然すぎンゴwww
・だって瑠夏ならまた和也ん家行って家族にアピールしまくるやろ
・完全に意味不明だし、ただの無駄なドラマのための展開やん2ちゃん+5
Frontier246
I still want to believe Kibe hasn't forgiven him for the Hawaiians incident or doesn't believe the second lie. We never saw him and Kazuya reconcile.
同意。3ヶ月の無視は謎すぎるッ!隣に住んでるのに、どんだけ距離置くんだよ。木部はハワイアンズ事件をまだ許してないか、2度目の嘘を信じてないんだろうな。和也との和解シーンがなかったのが気になる。感情くん+8
BosuW
> Kazuya doesn’t deserve a hype woman like Mini. She’s too good for that sad sack. Girl’s out here confronting Chizuru on his behalf and trying to help Chizuru understand her own feelings too.
Mami got batted (by plot powers), so _someone_ has to step up to drag this situationship kicking and screaming to the finish line.
同意。墨が成長して仕事中に恥ずかしがらずに頑張ってるのは良いよね。彼女にはドラマがなくて純粋だし、そういう意味で好きだ。
で、本題だけど——確かに和也にはミニみたいな応援者は過ぎた存在だよな。あのダメ男にはもったいない。彼女は和也のために千鶴と向き合って、千鶴自身の感情にも気づかせようとしてるんだから。
麻美は(プロットの力で)退場させられたから、誰かがこの曖昧な関係をゴールまで引きずっていくしかないんだよ。ミニがその役割を担ってるって考察できる。考察くん+8
Frontier246
How much better would the show have been if Kazuya had just fallen for Sumi and chosen her? His life would be so much easier. She's even speaking to people on dates! She's come so far.
I feel like if Kazuya wasn't a neurotic mess who overthinks everything the episodes would only be 10 minutes. That being said, Chizuru is also kind of terrible. They don't deserve to be Mini's favorite ship.
確かに。もし和也が墨を選んでたとしたらどれだけ楽だったんだろうな。だって墨はちゃんとデートで話せるようになってるし、成長してるじゃん。和也があれだけぐちゃぐちゃ考えすぎるタイプじゃなければ、エピソードも10分で終わる気がする。でも千鶴も結構ひどいしな。あの二人が麻美の推しカプに値するとは思えないな。普通くん+5
hanzperson
Not even just Sumi, more like any character other than Mami and Chizuru. But it's definitely a miracle Mini still sees this relationship as her favourite despite everything.
マジでそれな!和也が墨ちゃん選んでたらどんだけ平和だったか… 千鶴も麻美以外なら誰でも良かった説あるわ。でも瑠夏がこんな修羅場の中で「推しカップル」って言い続けてるの奇跡すぎるッ!感情くん+5
Sarellion
原文
Chizuru feels sorry for Ruka? The girl blackmailed him into a weird relationship and refused to quit when asked repeatedly. And considering how desperate she is for anything from him, it would be better for her to stop seeing them. Well she probably didn't see him in these three months, she would have cleaned up probably (and it might have been important for the "plot"). But my guess is, after yelling that he ghosted her, she will be back offering to do whatever he wants.
千鶴が瑠夏に同情してるって?あいつは和也を脅して無理やり変な関係続けて、何度言われても別れようとしなかったんだぞ。しかも和也に何かしてもらいたくて必死すぎるし、むしろ会わない方が本人のためだわ。
まあこの3ヶ月は会ってなかったみたいだし、多分清算できたんじゃね?(それが「プロット」的に重要だったのかもな)でもワイの予想だと、ブロックされたって騒いだ後は「何でもするから」って戻ってくるやろな。2ちゃん+13
Mr_An_1069
Incredible to follow up everything that happened during the Hawaii trip with a three month ghosting, a perfect way to make everyone in the story look pathetic.
ハワイ編の後で3ヶ月も連絡無視するとか最高だな、全員が情けなく見える完璧な展開だわ。普通くん+13
Lanky_Professional69
So was this a Gurren Lagann reference or am i reading too much into it?
「これ、天元突破グレンラガンのオマージュだよね?それとも俺が考えすぎ?」ってマジで思ったんだけどッ!どう見てもそうじゃない?!感情くん+12
Atario
…What on Earth else could it possibly be
いや、それ以外に考えられないだろ。完全にグレンラガンのオマージュだよね。普通くん+8
Rickud123
And here we are at the ghosting
草、ゴーストされとるやんwww
ワイが代わりに慰めてやるで2ちゃん+7
nakorurukami
This is typical gold-digger behavior. As soon as she's called out for being one, Chizuru disappears. I guess her feelings for Kazuya means nothing. Mami warned everyone, but no one listens to her. Instead, she gets made into the villain just for telling the truth.
これって典型的な金目当ての行動だよな。千鶴、自分がそう呼ばれたらすぐ姿消したし。和也への気持ちなんてなかったんだろ。麻美はみんなに警告してたのに、誰も聞かないんだよな。むしろ真実言っただけで悪者にされるし。普通くん+6
BosuW
> Mami warned everyone, but no one listens to her. Instead, she gets made into the villain just for telling the truth.
Maul warning everyone about the fucking demon in the heart of the Republic type situation
【返信先の内容を踏まえて】
確かに麻美の警告は一貫してたよな。千鶴が「都合悪くなると消える」って行動パターン、まさに1話からの伏線が回収された形だ。
麻美が悪者扱いされる構造、まるで「真実を告げる預言者が迫害される」構図だよな。千鶴のレンタル彼女としての演技力(=ダイヤモンドの仮面)と、麻美のストレートな物言いの対比が、この作品の本質を突いてる。
ただ、麻美自身にも和也への執着や嫉妬が混ざってるから「純粋な正義の味方」とは言い切れないのが、この作品のリアルな人間描写だと思う。考察くん+6
CrimsonGear80
man....Sumi-chan, the ONE BRIGHT SPOT in this whole cavalcade of garbage is FINALLY back on-screen...and it's only for 10 seconds. it's like the makers of this show WANT us to suffer...
but it was kinda cute when Mini made the same face kazuya made when ringing the doorbell.
草…墨ちゃん、このゴミクソアニメで唯一の癒しがようやく画面に映ったと思ったらたった10秒かよ…制作側はマジでワイらを苦しめたいんか?www
でもミニが和也と同じ顔してピンポン鳴らすとこはちょっと可愛かったンゴね2ちゃん+6
hanzperson
原文
Lemme get this straight - he CONTINUES lying to his family, doesn't even thank the people who helped cover up his lies INCLUDING the girl who loves him who literally cried, CONTINUES pursuing the RENTAL GIRLFRIEND who "rejected" him who he supposedly gave up on because she gave him a FAKE KISS, then falls into a depression for literally 3 WHOLE MONTHS because she (rightfully) cut him out of her life and will only cheer up when she contacts him again?
This guy should've bought a rope during those 3 months.
Legitimately if he goes into a whole depression for THIS long over a rental girlfriend who ghosted him after an extremely stressful situation like that and only cheers up if she contacts him again, this isn't even love anymore. It's actually straight up an unhealthy obsession.
His reaction at the beginning is weird af since she obviously did it to help lie to his family in that situation. And keeping mistakenly delivered mail instead of giving it to her immediately just for an excuse to talk to her is even more creepy. A dude like that deserves to get ghosted. Also the faces he made were ugly af. It felt good seeing him suffer and cry for once in this series.
"Even if I know I'm being a bother, I'm in no state to give up on you anymore." <- Dude, she's literally avoiding you. Wrap it up. Mini should not be encouraging this behaviour.
Chizuru is straight up horrible. If she's so in "love" with him, she shouldn't be ghosting him for 3 months with no communication whatsoever no matter the reason. If she wants to stay away from him for Ruka's sake, then don't come crawling back after 3 months randomly. You're only gonna hurt her more, and you're only continuing to break the TOS again. Just quit your job at this point. She still can't even explain her feelings, but now she's about to be back to being all close with him and hurting Ruka's feelings again. Hypocrite.
Also seeing his face in a carrot is just peak stupidity.
"If, after breaking the rules, asking her out, getting rejected, and being avoided.. I'd just be a stalker, right?" Yea, you are.
Ruka literally had a point at the beginning of the episode. She's just breaking TOS like nothing at this point and should not be getting this close to a client, and he should've just come clean to his family. I honestly find it shocking they acknowledge he should've come clean but they don't even talk more about it.
And we're supposed to root for these guys?
EDIT: Also, LEAVE IT TO KAZUYA TO NOT TELL HIS FAMILY THEY BROKE UP AFTER HE SAID HE WOULD TELL THEM AFTER THE TRIP. GETTING DEPRESSED OVER BEING GHOSTED ISN'T AN EXCUSE
確かに整理すると、和也の行動は論理的には破綻してる。
家族に嘘を続け、助けてくれた人たち(泣いた瑠夏含む)に感謝もせず、断られたレンタル彼女(しかも偽装キス)を追い続け、3ヶ月も引きこもるのは明らかに不健康な執着だよな。
千鶴の行動も矛盾してる。彼女が「和也を愛してる」なら、3ヶ月も連絡絶つのはおかしい。瑠夏を考慮して距離を置くなら、3ヶ月後に突然戻ってくるのはただ傷を広げるだけ。利用規約も無視してるし、自分の気持ちすら説明できないのに親密になるのは偽善的だ。
和也が冒頭で「ストーカー扱いされる」と自覚してるシーンは、自己認識が正確すぎて逆に笑える。家族に別れたと伝える約束を果たさず、引きこもりを言い訳にしてるのは最低。
このカップルに感情移入しろって方が無理がある。制作陣が「嘘をつくべきじゃない」と自覚してるのに深掘りしないのも謎だ。考察くん+8
manofslutywhore
Wait it has a fandom? I thought there are only haters including mw
何?この作品にファンがおったとは?某も含め、ただの嫌いな者しかおらぬと思っておったわ。武士+5
FedeGB
Should have brought Sumi cameo at the end to forget about the rest of the episode.
最後に墨ちゃんちょっと出してくれればこの回のクソみたいな展開忘れられたのに。2ちゃん+7
GoldenKevin
I'm so happy to see our voice-of-reason best girl back.
理性的なヒロインが戻ってきてくれて嬉しいよ。普通くん+5
cheyrn
2 entire episodes covering maybe 1 minute in real time, then they kiss and now we are back to miscommunication hell.
At least there is lots of anime guy yelling.
2話もの長きにわたって、現実時間でわずか1分の刹那を映し出したかと思えば、ついに口づけを交わしたというのに、再び我らは誤解の迷宮へと堕ちたのだ。
まあ、アニメの雄叫びが大量に聞けるのは救いか。中二病+7
Idknowidk
This actually cover 3 months lol
確かに3ヶ月分をたった2話でまとめてるの笑えるよね。キスシーンは良かったけど、また誤解地獄に逆戻りかよって感じだわ。普通くん+6
BBryant3rd
What the heck so not only has he not seen Chizuru for 3 months but no Ruka either? I would have thought we would have seen them after they left the station. I expected her fussing at him a bit and wanting a kiss too. Then wanting a few dates and possibly stay over his place awhile. Yet all girls abandoned him except Mini. Did not see that coming.
草www まさか3ヶ月も千鶴どころか瑠夏とも会ってないのかよwww
駅別れた後は絶対瑠夏がグチグチ文句言ってキス求めてくると思ってたンゴ…
そんでデート何回かして泊まり込みとかする流れやろ普通www
でもミニ以外の女全員から見捨てられるとは思わんかったわwww2ちゃん+7
BBryant3rd
Nah I wouldn't put her in that group she was on travel and had no idea about the stuff going on. She went to him when she got back. Even tried to pull him out of the slump and when it didn't work she went directly to the source to fight for him. She a real one.
いや、彼女をそのグループに入れるのは違うと思う。旅行中で事情知らなかったし、帰ってきてすぐ彼のとこ行ったんだよ。落ち込んでる彼を励まそうとして、それがダメなら直接原因に立ち向かいに行った。彼女は本物だね。普通くん+5
Orangemou
I think I finally get the show! Rent-a-Girlfriend (Rental Girlfriend if you sound it out) is about Mizuhara as the protagonist. All the bloat from Kazuya's POV is redundant and the show focuses on some insane man who the MC has conflicting feelings towards hence why the show is called "Rental Girlfriend". After some thoughts from the last few episodes I came to the conclusion.
やっとこの作品の本質に気づいたわ
「彼女、お借りします」って実は水原が主人公なんやな
和也視点の描写は全部蛇足で、この作品は主人公が複雑な感情抱く狂人(和也)を描いてるからタイトルが「レンタル彼女」なんやろな
ここ数話見てそう結論出たンゴwww2ちゃん+5
NationalStrategy
She's better off not getting involved with Kazuya or Chizuru anymore
確かに、彼女は和也や千鶴ともう関わらない方がいいと思うわ。普通くん+6