AutoLovepon+42
「元カノ、七海麻美」 ―マエカノ―
「私は“恋する2人”を見ると、壊したくなるのだ」厳格な父のもとで、敷かれたレールの上を歩んできた麻美。高校時代の恋愛も父によって突然の別れを強いられてしまっていた。麻美は独り、自身の過去を冷静に振り返る。そして和也との偽りの恋人関係を続ける千鶴に向かい、和に真実を話すよう迫るのだった。
エピソードサムネイル
bestmaokaina
ITS RENTING TIME
レンタル彼女の時間でござるな!武士+122
crazy_leader22
Does that shit say 0 upvotes in 4 hours 💀
え、まじで4時間で0 upvotesって書いてあるんだけど笑 やばくね!?💀ギャル+105
HolyDragSwd2500
No wonder Mami is the way she is. It was her father who made her what she is now
確かに麻美がそうなったのも納得だわ。父親が彼女をそうさせたんだな普通くん+44
BiggerG7
To quote a great man, “There ain’t no getting off of this train (wreck) we’re on till we get to the end of the line!”
「偉人の言葉を借りるなら、『この(破滅)列車から降りることはできないぜ、終点に着くまではな!』って感じだよッ!」エモすぎるわこのセリフ…無理感情くん+63
ObvsThrowaway5120
Well, I guess we know why Mami is the way she is. That toxic controlling father of hers turned her into a right miserable witch. Can’t have anyone else trying to find joy or happiness when she’s miserable. Gotta spread that misery around. I’m curious to see what Chizuru and Kazuya are going to do about Mami. You can’t negotiate with someone like that…
なるほど、麻美がそうなった理由がわかった気がする。あの毒親の父親のせいで、あんなに歪んだ人間になっちゃったんだな。自分が不幸だから他人の幸せも許せないって感じか。不幸を撒き散らしたいんだろうね。 千鶴と和也が麻美にどう立ち向かうのか気になる。ああいう相手とは話し合いで解決できなさそうだし…普通くん+28
Gamerdefender27
Why is there dubstep playing during a tragic childhood story.
なぜ悲しい幼少期の物語にダブステップが流れるのでござるか。某、この演出には首を傾げるばかりで候。武士+18
Shadruh
Most anime gets a swimsuit episode or two. This show gets two seasons.
まあ、普通のアニメなら水着回が1〜2話あるだけだが、この作品は丸々2シーズン使ってるんだな。ドライおじ+19
LeonKevlar
原文
For a second there, they almost made me feel bad for Mami. She basically grew up in a household where her father had pretty much decided on her future, but when she finally found actual happiness with her first boyfriend, her father wanted to put an end to it because he already had an arranged marriage planned for Mami. So instead of continuing the fight and becoming a better person than her father, she just gave in and decided to take out her anger on happy couples. This just makes Mami look worse. Didn't she even consider the fact that her father must've threatened her boyfriend and forced him to break up with her?
一瞬、麻美に同情しそうになったわ。彼女は父親に人生を決められて育ったようなもんで、初めての彼氏と本当の幸せを見つけたのに、父親が政略結婚を決めててそれをぶち壊そうとしたんだよね。 でも、父親に立ち向かって成長する道を選ばずに、ただ諦めて幸せなカップルに当たり散らすって、むしろ麻美が悪く見えるだけじゃん。父親が彼氏を脅して別れさせた可能性、考えなかったのかよ。普通くん+42
Any-Calligrapher2866
Holy shit it's happening
草マジで来たンゴwww2ちゃん+10
Viktorv22
Lmao they are so friendly in the preview, I can't 😆
やばくね!?プレビューでめっちゃ仲良しじゃん笑 まじ無理なんだけど😂ギャル+13
Komarist
Only the best romance anime are able to reach 50 episodes.
まあ50話まで続くラブコメはそうそうないからな。悪くない作品だと思うよ。ドライおじ+36
Avgshitposting
I love this trash, specifically this and last season because really all either one of them has to do is get offended and ask Mami "wait how is this any of your business? In fact go home, my grandmother isn't paying for your trip anymore" lol
このゴミみたいな作品が好きだわ。特に今期と前期は特にいいね。だって二人のどっちかがムカついて麻美に「ちょっと待って、これのどこに関係あるの?というか帰ってよ、祖母ちゃんがもうお前の旅費は払わないってさ」って言えばいいだけじゃん笑普通くん+27
Jacob-C
Hai hai Mami, you have a very unfortunate backstory and a piece of shit father. I still hate you with a passion. Mami reminds me of the \[Konosuba S3\]>!"innocent" girl who is really a plant monster from Konosuba, the one that is constantly clicking her tongue.!<
草、マミの父親がゴミクズなのは分かったけどそれでもお前のことマジで嫌いやわ マミ見てると『このすば3』のあの舌打ちしまくる草野郎思い出すンゴwww2ちゃん+7
ICantSeeLikeSa-chan
10 hours in still at 0 lmao. So what do you all think of the new CR UI?
10時間経っても0ってまじで草。みんなは新しいCRのUIどう思う?やばくね?笑ギャル+8
razisgosu
Well I now understand why Mami has always felt so fucked up and broken. She's got severe daddy issues and her family is messed up.
なるほど、麻美がずっと歪んで壊れてるように見えた理由が分かったわ。深刻な父親問題抱えてて、家族もめちゃくちゃなんだな。普通くん+6
testthrowawayzz
can y'all not downvote the post when *that* panel gets animated? (Makes it easier to just watch that episode) Thanks haha
おいおい、あのパネルがアニメ化された時にみんなでDVするのやめてくれよw(その回だけ見やすくなるからさ)サンキュー笑wwwおじ+7
AsuhoChinami
原文
Mami's backstory was actually incredibly interesting. I always like flashback montages that show gradual changes, that someone's original self lasted a long time and that it took a lot to create the worst version. Some say the backstory just makes them hate Mami more, which is fine, but the backstory does make her a lot less of an evil just 'cuz cartoon villain. Trauma and bitterness can make people pretty horrible.
麻美の過去編、めっちゃ興味深かったな。段階的な変化を見せるフラッシュバック集が好きだし、元の自分が長く続いてて、最悪のバージョンになるまでにすごく時間がかかったってのが伝わってくる。過去編で麻美がもっと嫌いになったって意見もわかるけど、単なる悪役じゃなくなったのは確かだよね。トラウマや苦さって人を本当にひどくさせるもんだし。普通くん+7
ChiliDemon
someone needs to be Takopi's original sin
え、誰かタコピーの原罪やるべきじゃね?笑 まじで気になるんだけど!ギャル+5
Ok-Cod5254
原文
Mami may be messed up, but she's still easily one of the best characters in this series (arguably the best) for making the plot more interesting. The more the series goes on, the more I can't be mad at her even though she is objectively doing bad things at the present time. Chizuru and Kazuya just be spinning in circles for the series so long whether in anime or manga, so at least she adds the spice. lol
麻美は確かに歪んでるけど、このシリーズで一番面白くしてるキャラの一人だと思う(個人的には最高)。 シリーズが進むにつれて、今は明らかに悪いことしてても彼女に怒れなくなってくるんだよね。 千鶴と和也はアニメでも漫画でもずっと同じ場所をぐるぐる回ってるだけだから、少なくとも麻美がスパイスを加えてくれてるのは確かだわ(笑)普通くん+9
Atario
原文
Jeez. No wonder she's such a psycho. I don't get it Subway! (Or a knockoff thereof) None of your fucking business? Just like all the rest of everything? And he's the director and producer of her first movie, no less. And the tiny matter of saving her from drowning that time, no big whoop Putting *her* on the spot?? She came out to this resort on her own volition and her own dime, to insert herself into your ~~fun vacation~~ **life**, and now demands to drag you around and make you do whatever she tells you Nothing much, just dying happy, is all
マジかよ。そりゃあんなサイコになるわけやわ 意味わからんわ 地下鉄?(もしくはパクリやろ) 「お前に関係ないだろ」ってか?いつも通り全部そうやん しかも彼女の初監督兼プロデューサーやぞ。それに溺れた時に助けた件も大したことないみたいに言うなよ *彼女*を追い詰めたって??自分でリゾート来といて、お前の楽しい旅行に割り込んで、挙げ句好き勝手連れ回そうとしてんのに 別に、ただ幸せに死ぬだけや2ちゃん+5
Rickud123
I can never hate this series it’s just so goofy 😄
このシリーズは絶対に嫌いになれないな、ただただバカバカしくて好き 😄普通くん+12
Comprehensive_Dog651
Seriously zero upvotes?
マジで?アップヴォート0ってマジ??そんなのありえなくないッ!?感情くん+21
NationalStrategy
Oh boy, it’s renting time once again, let’s see how many people will still around by the end of this season
やっほー!またレンタル彼女の季節が来たじゃん!今期終わる頃にどれだけの人が残ってるか見ものだよね〜笑ギャル+17
Rowdy91
At this point RAG haters are the real cucks. Breaking their minds and destroying their happiness by constantly hate watching it and posting their hate everywhere they can. And then they read the next chapter. And watch the next episode. The cycle repeats.
もうRAG(彼女、お借りします)アンチって実質カスだよね。 嫌いなのに毎回見て、あちこちに文句書きまくって、自分の楽しみを潰してるだけじゃん。 それなのに次の話を読んで、次のエピソードも見てる。 そのループ、ずっと続いてるんだよな。普通くん+8
Atario
38 hours in, and time for a "there is no legitimate reason to downvote any episode discussion thread, ever" check! > 0 points (48% upvoted) Unfortunately, reddit truncates negative scores to zero, so we can't calculate the totals. But we can say that there are more pathetic brigaders in here than legitimate watchers. Congrats, you did it, reddit!
38時間経って「エピソードの感想スレにDVする正当な理由なんて絶対ねえわ」チェックだ! > 0ポイント(48%賛成) 残念ながらredditはマイナスを0に丸めるから正確な数は出せん。でも言えるのは、まともな視聴者より哀れなDV厨の方が多いってことだ。おめでとう、reddit! やったな!2ちゃん+6
Shuyakucchi
Holy shit dude zero upvotes after 2 hours. This really is one of the renting moments of all time.
2時間経っても0アップヴォートってマジかよ。 これこそまさにレンタルの中のレンタルって感じだな。普通くん+9
Prince-Dizzytoon
Those Ruka swimsuit shots are hypnotizing
瑠夏の水着カットやばすぎンゴwww目が離せんわ2ちゃん+14
ptd163
原文
To the haters: Welcome back. To everyone else: We finally have more content. --- At least we know why Mami is the way she is now. Her father made her into a miserable witch and she's taking it out on happy couples. And to think I actually felt sorry for her for a minute. I have to wonder though. If Taro is the only one she truly ever loved and felt happiness with why did she even agree to date Kazuya? Spread the misery? Either way it's only an explanation. Not an excuse. She chose to continue to be miserable instead of getting back out there and looking for the next Taro. She had already rebelled against her dad once. It would've only been easier the second time. It was good to see Chizuru finally stand her ground and not go along with Mami. I wonder what Kazuya and Chizuru are going to do about this. Really all they would have to do is Grandma Nagomi that Mami is Kazuya's crazy ex that's trying to come between her grandson and her angel and Grandma Nagomi would have Mami dealt with in short order, but that's not what we're here for lol.
アンチの皆さん、おかえり。それ以外の皆さん、ようやく新展開だね。 --- 麻美がああなった理由がわかったな。父親が彼女を不幸な魔女にしちゃって、幸せなカップルに八つ当たりしてるんだ。一瞬同情しそうになったけどさ。でも疑問なんだよね。タローだけが本当に愛した人で幸せを感じた相手なら、なんで和也と付き合うことに同意したんだ?不幸を広めるため?いずれにせよ説明にはなっても言い訳にはならないよ。彼女は次のタローを探す代わりに、ずっと不幸でいる道を選んだんだ。一度父親に反抗した経験があるんだから、二度目はもっと簡単だったはずなのに。 千鶴がようやく自分の立場を守って麻美に従わなかったのは良かった。和也と千鶴がどうするのか気になるな。本当はなぎおばあちゃんに「麻美は和也のストーカー元カノで、孫と天使の仲を裂こうとしてる」って言えばすぐに片付けてもらえるだろうけど、そこは本題じゃないからね笑普通くん+8
Frontier246
原文
It's nice to finally et more insight into Mami's character and why she acts like this. Also they're still at a resort so still a convenient excuse for swimsuit fanservice! We now return to our regularly scheduled confrontation between Mami and Chizuru as Mami "rents" Chizuru out to force her to tell the truth. Is it finally time for the cat to come out of the bag? The OP is very on-point with the tropical resort location with all the girls in tropical dresses dancing and having a good time! Though Mami lets the mask slip for just a brief second. Either way, it's a fun OP. Mami came from a well-off family, one where she and her brother were meant to be on their best behavior and act in a way befitting their fathers' expectations at all times, lest their mother bear the brunt of any failure. Mami never really second guessed any of it as she just went along with what her father put before her...an older childhood friend, going to an all girls' school, doing nothing to stand out...until she met Taro. Taro was her first boyfriend, and the first thing Mami ever did in her life that was all her own. She kept the relationship a secret from her parents and she genuinely seemed in love and truly happy for the first time in her life. She truly felt free and like she could finally step out of the cage her father put her in. But, alas, her father would not let her be with Taro. In fact she already has a fiance that meets with her fathers' expectations (her "childhood friend"). And Mami protesting only ends with her getting slapped by her father. Such a cruel and uncompromising man...but there was nothing Mami could do. Especially when his dad makes Taro break up with her. And so Mami figured that love and happiness are just societal constructs that don't matter or mean anything, dismissing her relationship with Taro as just a "rebellious phase," and projecting her negativity and depression on everyone else...which is probably partially why she's so zeroed in on Kazuya and Chizuru's relationship. I'm sure that close-up of Ruka's chest and butt in a bikini are of vital importance to the PLOT, but Ruka wants to get in on the main plot and prevent Kazuya and Chizuru from doing anything together. But she still has to deal with Kuri and the things left unresolved between the two of them. Ordinarily Ruka would probably happily ditch him...but when she sees how unpopular and mocked he is, she can't help but stay with him. Probably the nicest thing Ruka has ever done. And Kuri, for his part, truly does care about Ruka. I see that Mami still fully intends to throw Kazuya under the bus, though Chizuru won't accept that or Mami insulting the Kinoshita's (I mean, the family practically worships her!). She doesn't want Mami to force them to reveal everything until they've talked with Kazuya...but Mami isn't budging. Is it wrong to maintain a lie if it brings someone happiness? Or is that happiness nothing more than a farce brought upon a lie? Especially knowing full well that Chizuru was never able to be honest with her grandmother in her last moments. Uh oh! Chizuru rejected Mami! Mami looks absolutely ticked off! This might be a defcon red moment!
麻美の内面描写が増えて、彼女の行動原理がより理解できたのは興味深い考察ポイントだな。リゾート地という設定は水着ファンサービスにも都合が良くて、制作陣の意図を感じる。 麻美が千鶴を「レンタル」して真実を強要する構図は、まさに物語の核心に迫る展開。ついに秘密が明かされる時が来たのか? OP映像はトロピカルな雰囲気に合ってて、各ヒロインが楽しそうに踊るのが良い。麻美の一瞬の仮面の崩しも伏線っぽい。 麻美の生い立ちは興味深い。裕福な家庭で常に父親の期待に縛られ、初めて自分で選んだ恋人・太郎との関係も父親に引き裂かれた。この経験から「愛や幸せは社会の虚構だ」と考えるようになったわけで、和也と千鶴の関係に執着するのも納得。 瑠夏の水着シーンは明らかにファンサービスだが、彼女がメインストーリーに割り込もうとする姿勢は重要。栗林との関係にも目を向けるべきで、彼が馬鹿にされている姿を見て一緒にいる瑠夏の行動は、実は彼女の優しさの証左だな。 麻美は和也を貶めるつもり満々だが、千鶴は木ノ下家(千鶴が崇拝されてる家)を侮辱されるのを許さない。嘘で誰かを幸せにするのは間違いか?特に千鶴が祖母に真実を言えなかった過去を考えると、この問いは重い。 千鶴が考察くん+5
athrun_1
I'm tired, boss. But I must continue...
疲れたわ…でも見続けなきゃいかんのや…(白目)2ちゃん+6
cleaulem
原文
Here we go to season 5 of the biggest trainwreck of an anime rom-com ever. No wonder that Mami is such a psycho with such an upbringing. But in the end it is her choice to be that miserable that she goes out of her way making other people miserable. "If I can't have it, nobody else should either!" It's always the same: It might be an explanation, but it can never be an excuse. Let's see how long it takes until the first naggers come here to complain about the shittiness of this show. If you made it to season 5 and still expect some serious level of character and story development, then it's absolutely on you!
さあ、アニメラブコメ史上最大の大爆走、Season5の始まりだ。麻美がああいう家庭環境なら、あのサイコっぷりも納得の背景だな。ただ結局、自ら不幸を選び、他人を巻き込んで不幸にするのは彼女自身の選択だ。 「私が手に入らないなら、誰にも渡さない!」ってか。いつも同じ構図だよな——説明にはなっても、決して言い訳にはならない。 さて、ここに「このクソアニメ」って文句言いに来る連中が現れるまでどれだけ持つか。Season5まで観てて、まだまともなキャラ・ストーリー展開を期待してるなら、それはもう完全に自己責任だと思うわ。考察くん+5
PrincipeDeiPoveri
Fuck, it was hard to find this post, I guess the haters really have nothing better to do. Mami's past is interesting, so what motivates her against Kazuya is envy, the kind that says if I can't be happy, no one can be (especially not my ex). That said, I'm glad my favorite soap opera is back, let's see if something interesting will happen.
くそ、この投稿見つけるの大変だったわ。アンチって暇なんだね。 麻美の過去は興味深いな。彼女が和也に対して動いてるのは嫉妬が理由なんだろうな。「私が幸せになれないなら誰も幸せになっちゃダメ(特に元カレは)」ってやつ。 まあでも、俺の好きな昼ドラが帰ってきて嬉しいよ。何か面白い展開になるか見てみよう。普通くん+9