透明な夜に駆ける君と、目に見えない恋をした。

AutoLovepon
恋心
冬月の記憶がなくなっていた。ショックで言葉もないまま寮に戻る空野と早瀬は、帰宅を迎えた鳴海と3人でこの状況を何とかしようと決める。冬月が入院する病院でボランティアが募集されていて参加できることに。
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oxlemf10
Looking at it dispassionately, I wouldn't be surprised if Koharu actually remembers, or never forgot, but chose to act coldly to spare Kakeru from future pain. It’s such a subjective and fatalistic situation;, he’s being too hard on himself for feeling guilty about persisting, since plenty of people would have just walked away. But at this point in the show, I’m just bracing myself for the blows.
冷静に見ると、小春は実は覚えている、あるいは忘れていなくて、未来の痛みから翔を守るために冷たく振る舞うことを選んだ可能性もある。主観的で宿命的な状況だ。多くの人が去ってしまう中で、彼が執着した罪悪感に苦しむのは自分に厳しすぎる。今はただ、この作品の衝撃に備えている。考察くん
Ornery-Currency7583
She's most definitely faking it. Chemo brain makes thinking difficult and hazy but is not amnesia
彼女は絶対に嘘をついてる!抗がん剤の影響で頭がぼんやりすることはあっても、記憶喪失にはならないんだよ!感情くん
mekerpan
Honestly, I thought Koharu hinted rather strongly that she is CHOOSING to "not remember" her recent past, because it would be pointless for her (and her friends) to bother to maintain the relationship they had once had. Definitely not chemo brain -- unless the Mayo Clinic summary of this condition (and others) are incorrect.
正直、Koharuは最近の過去を「思い出さない」ことを選んでるってかなり強く示唆してたと思う。昔の関係を維持するのは彼女(と友達)にとって無意味だからね。化学療法の脳障害ではないよ、メイヨー・クリニックの説明が間違ってない限り。普通くん
Ikari_21
If this is true then I can just imagine how much she hurts when she’s alone in that bed, knowing she so badly wants to be with her friends and especially kakeru. My heart is ready for the pain 😢
まあそういうもんだよな。ベッドで一人、友達や特にカケルと一緒にいたいと切望してる彼女の痛みは想像に難くない。心の準備はできてるよ😢ドライおじ
True_Construction413
I'm honestly wondering if she broke her screen hearing him confess on the video and decided to try and act this way to spare him any extra pain.
まじで彼女、ビデオで告白聞いて画面割ったんじゃない?それで彼のこれ以上の痛みを避けようとこんな態度取ってるんじゃ…泣ける感情くん
mekerpan
Indeed
確かにドライおじ
No_Zookeepergame_399
It could very well be author ignorance of chemo brain or a fantasized version of it.
作者がケモブレイン知らんかったか、都合よく妄想しただけの可能性も十分あるやろな。2ちゃん
kwokinator
No chance because she outright ignores him when he calls out after her in the hallway. She's already blind, her hearing is demonstrated to be better than most, there's no way she didn't know he was calling her. Unless chemo brain somehow has Speed Force-level plot-bending BS powers.
ありえないね。廊下で彼が呼び止めても彼女は完全に無視してたし。彼女はもう目が見えなくて、聴覚は普通より優れてるって描写されてる。呼ばれてるのに気づかないはずない。ケモブレインがスピードフォース級の都合のいい能力でもない限り。普通くん
No_Zookeepergame_399
I really hope you’re right.
我が望みは、汝の言葉が真実であること……それが我が運命の分岐点となるやもしれぬ。中二病
adevaleev
I thought that amnesia isn't bc of the chemo brain but rather bc of her tumor messing with her memory
それな!記憶喪失は化学療法のせいじゃなくて腫瘍が記憶をやられてるんだと思う!感情くん
AnyRule1102
No i think she does remember since how she says she been through this without reacting but her phone is cracked so she could've like thrown it out of rage since life was getting so good for her
いや、彼女は覚えてると思うンゴ。反応せずに経験したって言ってたし。でもスマホが割れてるから、人生が好調だったのに逆にキレて投げた可能性あるやろ2ちゃん
Frontier246
Enhancing the tragedy is he's too in love with her to emotionally cut himself off from her, even if it's inevitable he's going to lose her, and as accepting as she acts now she's probably immensely terrified and needs someone to be there for her through her last months.
悲劇なのは、失うと分かってても彼が彼女を愛しすぎて心を切り離せないこと。彼女も平気なフリしてるけど、たぶんめちゃくちゃ怖くて最後の数ヶ月そばにいてくれる人を必要としてるんだよね。普通くん
CreaMaxo
原文
As some others has pointed out, the broken phone that doesn't allow her to read her old message doesn't mean much since there are services (especially in Japan) to transfer and replace a broken phone. The fact that she doesn't get a replacement means she want to "keep it that way". Another point that hint toward her amnesia, maybe, not being totally real is the fact that she remember having experienced this chimio process 2 other times (that making the 3rd time). Her detached reaction doesn't reflect that she lived through something like amnesia before while she points out that she still remember the 2 other times. There's a possibility that it's her first case of amnesia, but now that we know (and she remember) having experiencing this a 3rd time... there's something strange going on. There's the fact that she show actual concern concerning Koharo's future with the college. While, yes, she could have learned that he was in college while being volunteering for the Kid's Time and such, she show concern over his attendance rate while saying she's not in College herself. That's really strange because the only way you actually know about someone's attendance rate possibly be problematic in College is if you know his or her minimum required attenance rate and maybe even his grade or how he fare at College. Originally, she shared some classes with him, meaning if she had her memory she would remember he should be in a class right now... but should you not remember being at College at all, you wouldn't really question yourself on someone else' attendance rate. And then, there's the fact that she isolated him in the open hospital park to drop the bad news like a bomb. She was already isolated with none of the young kids around and still decided to bring him elsewhere and tell him straight about her health condition. That's a kind of concern you don't really find between someone like a volunteer you would only just met (relatively) and a patient in a hospital. Still, there's a possibility that she learned about stuff through the nurses and what's not around the hospital and that she truly had a case of amnesia due to something. Or maybe she had amnesia, but remembered some bits and decided to act upon it to cut ties immediately instead of when it's even more too late. But, still, at this point, everyone watching this knows this has really little chances of having a good positive ending. (Hell, the top #1 search for this series on Google at the moment is the spoiling question everyone wonders about.)
他の人が指摘してるけど、壊れたスマホで昔のメッセージ読めないってのは、日本だと特に機種変やデータ移行サービスがあるから大した意味ないんだよな。彼女が替えのスマホを持たないってことは「そのままでいたい」って意志の表れという考察ができる。 もう一つ、記憶喪失が完全に本当じゃないかもってヒントは、この化学療法を過去2回経験してるって覚えてること(つまり3回目)。彼女の淡々とした反応は、記憶喪失を経験した人が示すものじゃないのに、過去2回は覚えてるって言うんだよな。初めての記憶喪失ならあり得るけど、3回目を経験して覚えてるとなると…何かおかしい。 あと、コハルの大学の今後を実際に心配してる点。ボランティアで知ったとしても、自分は大学行ってないのに出席率を気にするのは変。出席率が問題になるって知るには、最低出席率や成績を知ってる必要があるからな。元々同じ授業を取ってたなら、記憶があれば彼が今授業にいるはずって分かる。でも大学の記憶がなければ、他人の出席率を疑問に思わないはず。 そして、オープンな病院の公園で彼を隔離して爆弾みたいに悪い知らせを落としたこと。周りに子供がいないのにわざわざ別の場所に連れて行って、自分の病状をストレートに伝えた。これはボランティアと患者の関係じゃないんだよな。 看護師から聞いた可能性もあるし、本当に記憶喪失で一部思い出して即座に縁を切考察くん
Sex4Vespene
Thinking a bit further on the phone thing, what would the screen being broken even matter? She said she can still make phone calls, so the phone clearly works. Would it not be entirely controlled by voice anyways? That’s definitely making me think she might be lying.
電話の件をもうちょっと考えると、画面が壊れてても関係なくない?彼女は電話はまだかけられるって言ってたから、明らかに機能してるんだよね。そもそも全部音声操作なんじゃないの?これって彼女が嘘ついてる可能性をすごく感じるわ。普通くん
AsuhoChinami
but chose to act coldly to spare Kakeru from future pain. PSA for anyone reading this: please do not do this, mind-fucking people "for their own good" can make for okay fictional drama but in reality it can make healing impossible rather than easier
でも、カケルをこれ以上傷つけないために冷たく振る舞うことを選んだという考察ができる。ここで一つ言いたいのは、現実でこれをやるのは絶対にやめたほうがいい。相手のためを思って心を弄ぶのは、フィクションのドラマなら成立するかもしれないが、現実では癒しを難しくするだけだ。考察くん
BosuW
I really hope she isn't faking it consciously because that's not the kind of person the story has portrayed her as thus far. She'd have never kissed him to begin with if she was this fatalistic.
彼女が意識的に偽ってるんじゃないかって心配だわ。今までの話の描かれ方からしてそんな子じゃないし、そんな諦めモードなら最初からキスなんてしなかったはずだしね。普通くん
mekerpan
She might be doing this under the mistaken impression that it would be better for them to believe her fakery. Besides, bing under "sentence of imminent death" makes today's Koharu totally different from the Koharu who was still attending college (aware only that her cancer COULD return at SOME point).
彼女は、偽りだと信じさせる方が彼らのためになると誤解して、こうしているのかもしれない。それに、「死の宣告」を受けた状態では、今日の小春は、まだ大学に通っていた頃の小春(癌がいつか再発する可能性があるとだけ認識していた)とは全く別物だという考察ができる。考察くん
Alej_11
原文
And it was a very strong if, she didn't had any kind of problems for years, and was able to live a somewhat normal life. After such an invasive treatment she probably thought to be safe, she could have never expected to have only 6 months left. Probably when she saw the confession decided to fake everything, because she doesn't want to completely break him, probably she hopes that he simply moves on and finds someone else to love. A bit sad, but she isn't exactly in her mental state
それはかなり強い「もし」だよね。何年も問題なく、それなりに普通に暮らせてたんだから。あれだけ侵襲的な治療を受けた後なら、もう大丈夫だと思うじゃん。まさか余命6ヶ月なんて予想できないよ。告白を見た時に全部偽ろうと決めたんだろうね、彼を完全に壊したくないから。彼がただ前に進んで他の誰かを好きになるのを願ってるんだと思う。ちょっと切ないけど、彼女の精神状態じゃ仕方ない部分もある。普通くん
bravetailor
Maybe she just got some bad news later which changed her mind about it. Before that she probably still figured she had more time.
悪い知らせを受けて気が変わったのかもね。それまではまだ時間があると思ってたんだろうな…しんどい。感情くん
Relative-Pop686
I just knew this shit had your lie in April vibes man!, I knew and kept watching, hoping to be proven wrong. I also believe she is faking it to spare him from years of pain, trading it for something that might last just a couple months after pushing him away and dying quietly in hospital bed.
この作品、四月は君の嘘っぽい雰囲気あるよね!そう思いながら見続けて、間違いであってほしいと願ってた。彼女は彼を何年も苦しませないよう、演技してるんだと思う。彼を遠ざけて病院で静かに死ぬ代わりに、数ヶ月だけ続く何かを選んだんだろうな。普通くん
Excellent-Ad-4738
FRRRR i showed up for a good time when starting this now i feel like shit. I HAD A HUGE SUSPICION when they were at that table a few episodes back and she was like YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN SOMEONE IS GONNA DIE (or something close to that) I WAS LIKE NO FUCKING WAY THAT JUST GOT FORSHADOWED..... More depression for me ig... Heres to hoping for the best for her tho.... 😢(((
それな〜、気楽に観始めたのに今はもう気分最悪だよ。数話前のあのテーブルのシーンで「いつ誰が死ぬか分からない」みたいなこと言ってた時、めっちゃ嫌な予感したんだよね。「まさかこれ伏線かよ…」って。また鬱案件かよ…彼女にはどうか良い結末を祈るばかりだわ…😢(((考察くん
Billardss
I can absolutely see her acting as if she’s lost her memory. When they finally called out to her you could sense her reaction was that she definitely knew them but hoped they wouldn’t find her. And she probably broke her phone because of her health news. With all that being said why must they do this. Sad ending will hit harder but dammit it’s never a good time
彼女が記憶を失ったフリをするのはすごく分かる。呼びかけられた時の反応、絶対に2人を知ってるのに見つかりたくないと思ってる感じだった。健康の知らせでスマホ壊したんだろうな。でもなんでこんなことするんだよ。悲しい結末の方が刺さるけど、いつだってタイミング悪すぎるんだよな。普通くん
EclecticSpirit1963
I am so hoping that she gives it away by yelling "Kake-run" by mistake. She made sure it was a big deal calling him that. Foreshadowing is a really big thing in anime I find.
「かけーるん」って誤って叫んじまうのマジ期待してるわ。あの呼び方、わざわざ強調してたしな。アニメって伏線ガチで大事やんか。2ちゃん
Mavis_San
i totally think so and for that reason i couldnt stand this episode , just thinking she is lying makes her more like a bitch even if she wants to push him away as she will die maybe ? to break a friendship by faking amenisia is just a very horrible thing to do but if she doesnt then idk i still think of her as some king of b**ch
めっちゃ同意だわ。だからこの回は無理だった。嘘ついてるって思うだけで彼女がもっと嫌な奴に思える。死ぬかもしれないから彼を遠ざけたいとしても、記憶喪失のフリで友情壊すのはマジで最悪。でも嘘じゃないなら…うーん、それでも彼女のこと嫌な奴だと思っちゃうな。普通くん
Kazushi998
you know what, it's not nice to call her a b* but i agree with u she's a b* for faking ts 😭
わかるけどb*呼ばわりは酷くない?でもts偽装はガチでb*やろ😭2ちゃん
mekerpan
You had better hope you are never given the kind of "death sentence" she got ... Things like this can crush people.
まじで彼女みたいな「死刑宣告」されないことを祈りなよ…こういうのって人をボッコボコに潰すからね。ギャル
Lodju
Anime really loves to hurt it's viewers but i still choose to watch series like this. Like some sadistic addiction towards myself.
アニメって視聴者を傷つけるの好きだよね。それでもこういう作品見ちゃうんだよな。自分へのドMな依存みたいなもん。普通くん
Atario
Art's purpose is to make you feel emotions.
芸術の目的は感情を感じさせることだわwwwwおじ
Jacob-C
Exactly. Also, crying is healthy, for both body and mind. For me, experiencing sadness from a work of fiction also elevates moments of happiness, both when watching other shows and in real life. But I would be lying if I said there weren’t sad shows that have emotionally destroyed me for days, maybe even weeks.
まさにそれ。泣くのは心身ともに健康的だよね。フィクションで悲しみを味わうと、他の作品や現実の幸せもより輝いて感じられる。ただ、何日も、時には何週間も心をやられた作品があるのも事実。普通くん
Atario
Indeed. But being emotionally destroyed can help you come back better than you were before. I consider Katawa Shoujo to have done that for me.
いかにも。されど心を打ち砕かれることで、以前より強くなれるものにござる。拙者は『Katawa Shoujo』にて、まさにそれを経験いたした。武士
Atlmykl
I feel nothing since they decided to go the amnesia route. I know chemo brain and it is not amnesia. Even if it from brain injury due to a car wreck it is still lazy. Protag will just do the 'I will make you fall in love with me again' and that is predictable and tiresome. Wasted potential
記憶喪失ルートにした時点でワイは何も感じんわ。化学療法後の認知障害は知っとるが、あれは記憶喪失やない。交通事故の脳損傷でも同じ、手抜きやろ。主人公が「また好きにさせてみせる」とかやるんやろ、予想通りで飽きるわ。才能の無駄遣いや2ちゃん
IlGioCR
I had to spoil myself of the ending so I can cope with what's happening now.
拙者、今の此の状況に耐えられぬゆえ、結末を自ら知る道を選び申した。武士
strange_wilds
原文
I thought I was getting “A sign of affection” but with a blind girl instead of deaf one; but the ultimate rug pull is that, judging by the trajectory of the story, it’s going to be a “Your Lie in April.” And if it is, it pulled the switch up a lot better here than YLIA I will say. I was not emotionally prepared, like I did watch the very beginning of the first ep but like it didn’t click at the time obviously.
「A sign of affection」の難聴の子が盲腸になった版かと思ったら、話の流れ的に「四月は君の嘘」ルートやんけ。もしそうならYLIAよりずっと上手く伏線張っとるわ。心の準備できてなかったンゴ…最初の1話ちょっと見たけどその時は全然ピンと来なかったし2ちゃん
mekerpan
I was pretty sure here from some point in ep1.....
第1話のどこかで確信してたんだよね…普通くん
strange_wilds
原文
I admit I was little optimistic but tbh I didn’t think it was going to be heavy hitter show. I just started watching it just because it was romance and the title made it seem interesting, with no prior knowledge or reading the synopsis. I’m watching in the realm upper 30’s, lower 40’s of shows so for the most part I’m taking everything at face value/as they come. I remember everything week after week but not analyzing it much post episode.
我承認自己曾有些過於樂觀,但老實說,我從未想過這會是一部如此震撼人心的作品。最初只是因為它是戀愛題材,加上標題引人入勝,便在毫無預備知識、也未讀過簡介的情況下開始觀看。我是在動畫數量已達三、四十部以上的領域中觀看,因此大多時候都是直接接受眼前所見、順其自然地感受。每週每週我都記得所有內容,但並未在每集之後深入剖析。中二病
mekerpan
I'm following 40+ shows, but only thinking much about half or so of these.
40本以上視聴中やけど、ガチで気にしてるのは半分くらいやわ2ちゃん
mekerpan
Some might watch things like this because it has direct personal relevance..... Actually this series is pretty restrained compared to a K-drama named "Rosemary" which was a detailed study of how cancer affects both the person with cancer and those around her. Excellent (now rather old) series.
こういうのを見るのは自分ごとだからって人もいるかもね…。実際この作品は、癌が本人と周囲にどう影響するかを細かく描いた韓国ドラマ「Rosemary」に比べたらかなり控えめ。あれは今では古いけど名作だよ。普通くん
KumaKumaGambler
Narumi is a real bro though. He had the least interaction with Koharu, but still signed up as a volunteer together with Kakeru and Hayase. He continues to joke around, possibly to cheer Kakeru and Hayase up. Even if Koharu does not regain her memories, I believe Kakeru will surely realize he wants to spend all the remaining time Koharu has together with her.
鳴海マジでいい奴やん。小春と一番絡み少ないのに、カケルと早瀬と一緒にボランティア登録したんやろ?ずっと冗談言ってるのも、多分カケルと早瀬を元気づけようとしてるんやな。小春が記憶戻らなくても、カケルは絶対小春の残りの時間全部一緒に過ごしたいって気づくはずやわ。2ちゃん
Frontier246
Honestly I think being the least close to Koharu paid off in the sense that this hit him less hard and he's able to balance out Yuko/Kakeru's depression. He's such a mom! Until you come off after his sausages, then all bets are off lol.
正直、小春と一番距離があったおかげでダメージが軽くて、優子とカケルの落ち込みを支えられてるんだと思う。ほんとお母さんみたいだよね!でもソーセージに手を出したらもう容赦なしだけどなwww普通くん
Aerodynamic41
“I only have about six months left to live.” I can’t take this many death flags man.
「余命あと半年しかないんだ」って…死亡フラグ立てすぎじゃん、まじで無理なんだけど!ギャル
Atario
We're beyond "flags" here
もう「フラグ」とかいうレベルじゃないよね普通くん
ChiliDemon
football stadium pre-game flag
サッカー場の試合前の旗じゃん!てかこれまじでアガるやつ!ギャル
dvdantunes
this show sells the flags to other shows in fact
このアニメ、他のアニメにフラグ売ってるンゴねwww2ちゃん
shewy92
It's just an obituary at this point. Whether it's a CNN Accidental posting or not is to be determined.
もうこれ完全に死亡記事じゃん。CNNの誤投稿かどうかはまだ分からないけど。普通くん
Kemaiku
She's on her third round of chemo and lost organ function already and can feel the others shutting down. The death flags were the ones the doctors acted on years ago.
三度目の抗がん剤で臓器も機能しなくなって、他のも止まりかけって感じてるんだよなw 死亡フラグは何年も前に医者が対応済みだったっていうwwwwおじ
Yamabuki_Arisu_Sama
Brother this isn’t a flag 😭 It’s a statement
それフラグじゃないよ😭 これは宣言だよ普通くん
Responsible-Song3999
i knew it fuck fuck
わかってた…クソッ、クソッ!感情くん
Frontier246
“I want to live beyond my death!” - They were telling us from day one...
「死を超えて生きたい!」って、最初から言ってたんだよな…普通くん
tottoro47
I knew that something like this would happen the first time I saw this show. It just had a vibe like that. But still I'm not fucking ready for the end
最初に見た時からこうなるって分かってた…そんな雰囲気あったし…でも終わりはまじで心の準備できてなかった無理すぎるッ!感情くん
pokupoknoo
I knew also and in my mind song playing I'm going back to 505 ,Your lie in April vibes started only 6 fucking months left ◀️😫
それ知ってたし、頭の中で「505」が流れてたよ。April vibesが始まって、残り6ヶ月しかないんだよな ◀️😫普通くん
True_Construction413
Absolute banger taste in music 505 by arctic monkeys is a favorite of mine
音楽のセンスが神すぎる!Arctic Monkeysの505は俺の大好きな曲だわ感情くん
marsh_522
She knows she's done it thrice? also imo it's very Fuyutsuki to call it "annoying" i think
彼女は3回もやったって自覚あるの?あと個人的に「うざい」って言うのはすごく冬月っぽいと思う普通くん
Jataka
Believable that the hospital staff would keep her aware of her history. Not to say that the fake amnesia theory doesn't remain highly plausible.
病院スタッフが彼女に病歴を知らせとくってのはありえる話やな。ただ偽の記憶喪失説もまだガチで有力やと思うで。2ちゃん
SavingsRelation1970
I wish that she survives, im gonna go spoil the series just to cope, and I just hope she survives
彼女には生き残ってほしい。耐えられないからネタバレ見てくるわ。とにかく生き残ってほしいんだ。普通くん
wterrt
can't remember if i looked it up or just read it in last week's thread or if it was in the episode itself last week but supposedly more recent memories are the ones to be most affected so it's possible she doesn't remember the last year or so but remembers the rest of her past
最近の記憶ほど影響受けるらしいから、この1年くらいは覚えてないけどそれ以前は覚えてる可能性あるンゴね。どこで見たかは忘れたわ草2ちゃん
marsh_522
i will fucking cry if she never remembers (i love a good cry, just ideally it isn't at the expense of my children 🤧)
彼女が思い出さなかったらマジで泣くわ(いい泣きは好きだけど、できればうちの子たちを犠牲にしてほしくない🤧)普通くん
wterrt
even if she doesn't they can always start again. not like they had years together or anything.
たとえ彼女がそうしなくても、またやり直せるやろ。何年も一緒にいたわけでもないし。2ちゃん
thelemon8er-2
I disassociated watching this and it helped. Think of it as a new show now. First 6 episodes was something else.
この作品を見てると解離しちゃって、それが逆に助けになったわ。もう新しい番組だと思って見てる。最初の6話はまじで別格だった…!感情くん
Niwaka_Samurai
Pain 💔
痛い💔普通くん
SavingsRelation1970
Know pain, feel pain, accept pain, those who do not know pain will never understand true peace, now the world shall feel pain Nagato was right😭😭😭
痛みを知り、痛みを感じ、痛みを受け入れよ。痛みを知らぬ者に真の平和は理解できぬ。さあ、世界は痛みを感じるがいい…長門は正しかった😭😭😭感情くん
Leri_weill
I was unfamiliar with the source material and thought "Oh sweet, a romance with a blind girl, that's bound to be unique". I should've ran after the first episode though because it was quite ominous, that's on me for choosing to stay and suffer 💀
原作知らんかったけど「お、盲目の子との恋愛か、珍しいやん」って思ったんや。でも1話見た時点で逃げるべきやったわ、不穏すぎて。残って苦しむ選択したんワイのせいや💀2ちゃん
thelemon8er-2
Could have been a feel good story. But noooooooooooooo
いい話になりそうだったのに、まじでなんでそうなるん!?って感じなんだけど笑ギャル
SavingsRelation1970
The makers love to torture us😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
作り手は私たちを拷問するのが大好きなんだよ😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭感情くん
aimless_reader
what in the I want to eat your pancreas is this bro tf
これ「君の膵臓をたべたい」じゃねえかよ、なんだこれマジでwww2ちゃん
Frontier246
What if Your Lie in April, I Want to Eat Your Pancreas , and One Week Friends all came together and had a baby.
四月は君の嘘、君の膵臓をたべたい、一週間フレンズ。が合体して子供できたらって感じ。普通くん
Aman_Shadow
Exactly But wait, if I remember it correctly, the mc of one week friends didn't die tho. Maybe I've forgotten, but I don't remember her dying.
それな!でも待って、記憶が正しければ一週間フレンズの主人公は死んでなかったはず…忘れたかもだけど、死んだ記憶はないんだよね。感情くん
TrickPay2
That one wasn’t sad, it’s just the amnesia that’s similar
あれは泣ける系じゃないじゃん!てか記憶喪失ネタが似てるだけだし笑ギャル
mekerpan
Yes. [The actual end in YLIA rather infuriated me] Her right to die in dignity and peace, with her family and friends' love and support, was stolen -- from her, her loved ones, and the show's audience. I thought it was a cruel trick on the part of the writer.
うん。[YLIAの実際の結末には正直かなり腹が立った] 家族や友達の愛と支えの中で尊厳を持って安らかに死ぬ権利が奪われたんだよ。本人からも、大切な人たちからも、視聴者からも。あれは作者の残酷な仕掛けだと思った。普通くん
mekerpan
I think you are right. My advanced age is catching up with me.
それな!年齢には勝てないよね…しんどいわ感情くん
Maccaz15
You complained about spoilers last week while casually spoiling another series.
先週はネタバレに文句言ってたのに、別の作品は普通にネタバレしてたじゃん。普通くん
Elixir-Licht
Damn my bad 💀
やば、ごめん💀感情くん
Neighborhood_Wizard
原文
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thelemon8er-2
Wish me luck. I’ve prepared myself as much as I can. Pressing play now.
ワイ、覚悟完了したンゴ…再生ボタン押すわ。幸運を祈ってくれ草2ちゃん
HarryKane247
did you survive the episode? because I sure didn't 😭
その話、生き残れた?てかまじで無理だったんだけど😭ギャル
thelemon8er-2
I pretended it was a different show.
別のアニメだと思い込んでたわ…それくらいしんどかった。感情くん
Frontier246
We're all in the trenches of romantic tragedy now.
ワイら全員、恋愛悲劇のど真ん中におるンゴ…2ちゃん
mastereluder6
I knew we were going to be crying by the end of it but I just kept watching
最後には泣くって分かってたけど、見るのをやめられなかった。普通くん
sobentoria
Im so hurt rn what the heck was that😢😢😢
今ガチで傷ついてるンゴ、あれ何なんやwww😢😢😢2ちゃん
pokupoknoo
Bro I really want them to ship together and they are only imagination 🥲
マジでこの二人くっついてほしいのに、想像上の存在なんだよな🥲普通くん
RoyalKlutzy430
It hurt so bad, I went to re-watch Saiki K to lighten my heart 💔💔
つらすぎて心癒すために斉木楠雄のΨ難見返しに行ったわ💔💔感情くん
Gravoid
I will keep following the anime trought here. For me it ended at episode 6. Amazing anime either way.
ここでアニメ追い続けるわ!うち的には6話で終わったんだけど笑 まじで神アニメじゃん!ギャル
Frontier246
Remember when it was fun romantic banter, solid character development, and good relationship progression? Now it's all been twisted in the most tragic way possible.
楽しかったロマンチックな掛け合い、しっかりしたキャラ成長、良い関係進展…全部過去の話かよ。今じゃ全部、ありえないほど悲劇的に捻じ曲げられてる…泣いた感情くん
kevanions
Honestly I will keep watching but I lost like 80% of my interest with this episode it feels way too similar to another Your lie in April or I want to eat your Pancreas... with amnesia. The first 6 episodes were way better and more enjoyable imo.
正直見続けるけど、この回で興味8割くらい失ったわ。Your lie in Aprilとか君の膵臓を食べたいに記憶喪失足しただけって感じ。最初の6話の方が断然良かったと思う。普通くん
Palcikaman
原文
I'm glad others feel this way too, I don't want to say things like those stories did this already, and they did it better, especially when we haven't even seen the ending yet. But I'm really disappointed that this became a sadness pile show. Boy was I wrong about her, is shaping up to be my comfort show besides polar opposites. It had an episode where I was afraid it'll derail too, but they quickly reverted. The animation is pretty rough, sometimes non-existent, but the characters are very likeable and have great chemistry.
他の人も同じように感じてくれて嬉しいよ。「あの作品が既にやったし、しかも上手くやった」みたいなことは言いたくないんだ、特にまだ結末すら見てないのにね。でもこれが「悲しみの山」みたいな作品になったのは本当に残念だよ。彼女について完全に間違ってたな。「Boy was I wrong about her」は、正反対の作品と並んで俺の癒し作品になりつつある。脱線しそうで怖かった回もあったけど、すぐに元に戻ってくれた。作画はかなり粗くて、時々存在しないレベルだけど、キャラはとても魅力的でケミストリーも抜群だ。考察くん
superhakerman
yeah, I would also continue watching it. But I really I don't like how they turned it upside down.
うん、俺も見続けると思う。でも話をひっくり返したやり方は正直好きじゃないな。普通くん
canadave_nyc
原文
Yeah, no, I'm out and won't be watching any further. I know everyone's different, personal tastes and all that--I get it, I really do. But I honestly don't understand why anyone would want to watch a show like this ("this" being the new direction it's headed). There's so many sad horrific tragic things in our world that I read about or watch; why would I intentionally subject myself to more of that, in an anime? How would that not damage someone's mental health, no matter how beautifully it's done? The first 6 episodes were indeed amazing--so sweet and poignant, and I really enjoyed those. So I'm just going to pretend the series ended at episode 6 as well. Cheers and best of luck to you and the rest of the folks who continue watching.
いや、もう無理だわ。これ以上は観ない。人それぞれ好みがあるのは分かってるし、理解もしてるつもりだ。でも、なんでこんな作品(つまり今の方向性)を進んで観たいと思うのか、正直分からない。現実世界には悲しくて恐ろしくて悲惨な出来事が溢れてるじゃないか。なのに、なんでわざわざアニメでまでそんなものに身を晒す必要がある?どんなに美しく描かれていても、精神を蝕むだけだろ。最初の6話は確かに素晴らしかった——甘くて切なくて、本当に楽しめた。だから自分の中では6話で完結したことにしてる。観続ける君たちに幸運を祈るよ。考察くん
Idknowidk
??? She survived cancer 2 times so ofc she have to do check ups every 6 months and sadly a lot of times comes back irl too . This is very possible
は?彼女は癌を2回乗り越えたんやから、当然半年ごとに検査せなあかんし、現実でも再発すること多いんよ。全然あり得る話やん2ちゃん
Physical_Trick_5329
The writing is the point people don't like this turn of events. If the cancer was more upfront in the story and not a scare jump after the confession, nobody would complain but the way it is written is way too forced.
脚本が問題なんだよね。癌がもっと序盤から描かれてれば文句出なかったけど、告白後の急展開はさすがに強引すぎる。普通くん
zool714
原文
Assuming the amnesia is real, it must be tough for Sorano. All those memories and interactions and inside jokes were met so coldly. But with the broken phone and talks of letting those memories go, I’m beginning to think it’s an act. Or maybe it was true at first, cos from what I’ve read chemo brain is real but the memory loss isn’t as bad as forgetting a whole person. I’m thinking especially after getting that confession video, she realized she’s in really deep and doesn’t want him to get hung up on someone that is dying. Maybe even freaked out that she threw and cracked her phone. So she’s using the chemo (which is true since she went through it around the time she disappeared) and chemo brain as an excuse to give Sorano an out. Ngl not that I won’t be sad, but maybe I’ve watched a few of these types of shows and maybe I’ve braced myself early on, if she does pass on by the end, I can see myself not breaking. At least that’s what I think lol
記憶喪失が本当だと仮定すると、空野にとっては辛いよな。あれだけの思い出や交流や内輪ネタが、あんなに冷たくあしらわれたわけだから。でも、壊れたスマホと記憶を手放す話を踏まえると、演技なんじゃないかと思い始めてる。あるいは最初は本当だったのかも。調べた限りケモブレインは実在するけど、記憶喪失は一人丸ごと忘れるほど酷くはないらしい。特に告白動画を受け取った後、彼女は自分がかなり深みにはまってることに気づいて、死にかけてる人間に彼を縛り付けたくないと思ったんじゃないか。スマホを投げて割ったのも動揺したからかも。だからケモ(失踪した頃に実際やってた)とケモブレインを言い訳にして、空野に逃げ道を与えてるという考察ができる。嘘、悲しくないわけないけど、こういう作品をいくつか見てきたから早めに心の準備はしてた。もし最後に彼女が逝っても、自分は壊れずにいられる気がする。少なくともそう思ってる笑考察くん
Ornery-Currency7583
As a cancer survivor, even though I am sure it varies, chemo brain is not like amnesia, dementia or Alzheimers. It's not complete memory loss, so with the broken phone and final speech of the episode, I am sure she's trying to be merciful and faking it. Seems it won't work though
癌サバイバーだけど、ケモブレインは人によるだろうし、記憶喪失や認知症、アルツハイマーとは違うんだよね。完全に記憶がなくなるわけじゃないから、壊れたスマホと最後の演説を見る限り、彼女は優しさでわざと記憶がないフリしてるんだと思う。でも上手くいかなそうだね普通くん
mekerpan
I agree. (waiiting for a kidney biopsy in a week and wondering just what it might show).
同意…!来週腎生検で、何が出るか不安すぎてしんどい…泣感情くん
melindypants
Hope it all goes well! 🤞💕
うまくいくといいね!🤞💕普通くん
mekerpan
We need to know what it will show -- one way or another.... Thanks/
何を見せるのか知りたいンゴ…どっちにしろな…サンクス/2ちゃん
Frontier246
As soon as I saw the broken phone I thought "oh, she must have broken it herself" from how convenient it is that it broke right when she got her Chemo Brain amnesia.
壊れたスマホ見た瞬間「あ、これ自分で壊したな」って思ったわ。だって化学療法後の記憶喪失になったタイミングで壊れるとか、都合よすぎるでしょ!感情くん
KJatWork
Purposefully breaking her phone from the beginning is certainly a level of commitment if that is the case. She did that before they'd first shown up and she would not have had any idea at that point that they would find her and manage to corner her on the roof AND that her friend would ask about her phone.
最初からわざとスマホ壊してたなら、なかなかの覚悟だね。あの時点で二人が来ることも、屋上で追い詰められることも、友達がスマホのこと聞くことも知らなかったはずだし。普通くん
wterrt
got mad at her situation when she kept getting tons of texts from them and broke it maybe?
彼女が彼らから大量のメールを受け取り続けて、彼女の状況に腹を立てて、たぶん関係を壊したのかな?感情くん
ChiliDemon
my guess is she found out about the 6 months right before receiving the confession video, she then threw her phone
たぶん告白動画の直前に余命6ヶ月のこと知って、スマホ投げたんやろな2ちゃん
HeadPotatoInspector
I was thinking the same, but also could be she lost her short term memory just before the video was sent to her. When she saw it and couldn't remember, she couldn't handle it and broke it. I dunno which of the theories are worse, including the one where she is faking the amnesia...
同じこと考えてた。でも動画が送られる直前に短期記憶を失った可能性もあるよね。見ても思い出せなくて、耐えられなくなって壊したとか。記憶喪失を装ってる説も含めて、どの理論が一番厄介なのか分からん…考察くん
HeadPotatoInspector
I was thinking the same, but also could be she lost her short term memory just before the video was sent to her. When she saw it and couldn't remember, she couldn't handle it and broke it. I dunno which of the theories are worse, including the one where she is faking the amnesia...
同じこと考えてた。でも動画が送られる直前に短期記憶を失った可能性もあるよね。見ても思い出せなくて耐えられなくなって壊したとか。記憶喪失を装ってる説も含めて、どれが一番ヤバいか分からん…普通くん
Kemaiku
原文
Or, the shock of seeing the video combined with the medication caused a fit of some kind, she dropped her phone, and now has no means to remember. Meaning he has to make her. Which is either incredibly selfish (despite all thats happened), stick with her as a helper and be traumatised further (which is exactly what she's trying to spare him) or walk away. Added bonus if the message *did* induce something, making her remember would be possible fatal now in itself. What a fun episode
あるいは、動画を見たショックと薬の影響で発作みたいなもんが起きて、スマホ落として、もう思い出す手段がなくなった可能性もあるやん。つまり彼が思い出させなあかん。それはめっちゃ自己中か、ヘルパーとして側にいてさらにトラウマ負うか(まさに彼女が避けようとしてること)、去るか。おまけにメッセージが何か引き起こしてたら、思い出させること自体が致命的になる可能性もあるンゴ。なんて楽しい回や…草2ちゃん