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ねがいごと
負ければ自身が抱えている問題を打ち明けるという条件のもと、夏希から1on1のバスケ勝負を挑まれる美織。勝負に敗れた美織は、バスケ部の先輩たちとの関係や、味方にパスを出すのが怖くなったことを打ち明ける。
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smellyCat3226
I would honestly be mad if Miori isn’t endgame
まじでミオリが最終的にくっつかないとかありえなくない!?それやったらまじキレるわ笑ギャル
Frontier246
Honestly the way she blushed over Natsuki being at the game for her, how much his middle school rejection hurt her, and how she reacted to seeing Uta kiss him, it really does seem like she has feelings for him if nothing else.
正直、夏希が自分の試合に来てくれた時の照れ方、中学時代の告白を断られた傷の深さ、そして詩が夏希にキスした時の彼女の反応…これらを総合的に考察すると、少なくとも彼女は夏希に対して恋愛感情を持っていると見るのが妥当だと思われる。考察くん
jujloveskdrama-anime
Miora saw them after the festival date ??? I didn't see that
えっ!?ミオラ、あのフェスのデートの後で彼ら見たの!?マジで気づかなかったんだけど!!やばくね!?ギャル
Frontier246
It was a post-credit scene.
ポストクレジットシーンだったわwwwwおじ
PeaceAlien
Oh thanks, the 'skip credits' button skipped the post scene
「スキップ」ボタンでポストクレジットシーン飛ばしちゃったのか、ありがとう普通くん
jujloveskdrama-anime
I didn't see it damn😭😭 why would the skip credits skip over the post credit scene how dumb is that sh*t😭😭
マジかよwww エンドロール飛ばしたらポストクレジットシーン見れないとかクソすぎるだろ泣いたわwwwwwwおじ
Mons9090
I remember when i was watching reze arc and most people left the theatre when the credits were rolling
ふふ…あのレゼ編の記憶、我が魂に刻まれている。観客たちがエンドロールと共に闇へ消えゆくさまは、まるで運命の幕が下りる瞬間のようだったのだ。中二病
jujloveskdrama-anime
I am always the last one to leave the theater tehehe and I never regret it🔥🔥 there is always some post credits scene and I wouldn't miss ittt🤷🏻‍♀️
いつも最後まで映画館に残ってるんだよね〜後悔したことない🔥🔥エンドロール後に必ず何かあるし、絶対見逃せないんだよ🤷🏻‍♀️普通くん
Mons9090
Yeah I realised that. Now I'm hoping that tybw cour 4 movie comes out in my country as well
それ分かってた!TBYW第4クールの映画、俺の国でも公開されるのマジで嬉しすぎるッ!待ってたよ!感情くん
jujloveskdrama-anime
Ooh cool I would love to watch that I heard about the show but didn't watch it yet🙆🏻‍♀️ I AM SO EXCITED FOR THE NEW SPIDERMAN MOVIE THOO CAN'T WAITTT
おお、それは見てみたいな!そのアニメの話は聞いたことあるけどまだ観てなかったんだよね🙆🏻‍♀️ でも新スパイダーマン映画がマジで待ちきれない!!普通くん
Mons9090
Honestly dont think ive seen a single spiderman movie since I rarely watch stuff other than anime. Did watch project hailmary though
マジでスパイダーマン映画は1本も見たことないかも!アニメ以外あんま見ないんだよね笑 でも『プロジェクト・ヘイル・メアリー』は見たよ!ギャル
mojo72400
I think there were 2-3 people left including me in the cinema. The arc's ending was the one I really anticipated & I was sitting there theorizing whether it shows up as a post credit, save it for the anime or gets completely cut. I'm glad it was the 1st option.
あの場面、劇場で俺を含めて2〜3人しか残ってなかったんだよな。俺はあのアークの終わり方をすごく待ち望んでて、「これはポストクレジットでやるのか、アニメ用に温存するのか、それとも完全にカットするのか」ってずっと考察してたんだ。最初の選択肢だったのは本当に良かったと考察できる。考察くん
Djbadj
Stupid crynchy I pressed skip credits and it skipped the scene too.
スキップ押したらエンドロールごと飛ばされたんだけど、クソすぎる普通くん
redbat21
I was the same! If you clicked skip credits it skips over the scene 🙄
ああ、俺もそうだったよ。エンディング飛ばすとそのシーンも飛ばされるんだな、これが。ドライおじ
smellyCat3226
SHE SAW IT!!! I CLOSED THE TAB RAGE QUITTING AT THE KISS WTFFF
見たんだな!!!キスのシーンでタブ閉じて怒り爆発したわマジでッ!!!感情くん
Prestigious-Visit677
Fr I kinda feel like Miori would be the best choice They get along so well and It just feels right. One of those times I really am rooting for the childhood friend
ワイ的にはミオリ一択やろwww 二人めっちゃ仲ええし、なんかしっくりくるンゴ 幼なじみルート、今回はガチで応援したいわ2ちゃん
Pipinpopodlis
Idk honestly, I think u have to look from natsukis perspective he has a clear goal in his mind and he has a crush of his own to expect him to end up with moiri just cause of her feelings for him it js doesn't make sense to me. Same goes with Uta, like you can clearly see he doesn't look at u like that and u still pursue him...
正直わかんないけど、夏樹の立場から見る必要があると思うんだよね。彼には明確な目標があって、自分に片思いしてる人もいるんだから、モイリとくっつくって期待するのはちょっと違う気がする。ウタに関しても同じで、明らかに彼女のことをそういう目で見てないのに追いかけるのはな…って感じ。普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
原文
True that. But from a neutral perspective, its pretty much Que sera sera. I like it when people end up together in a natural way, Uta likes the current 2.0 Natsu and has made a move, Natsu likes Hiromiya which so far is only shown as love at first sight, Miori and Natsu have been shown as having good chemistry but their feelings are vague. As our protagonist as long as he's happy, I'm quite happy whatever may happen. Who's to say his past life crush is wrong (bro hasn't even struck yet), Who's to say Uta won't make Natsu happier than can be (F for Tatsuya regardless tho), Also whats wrong with the childhood friend winnin for once (tho it irks me how vague their relation is). Got more EPs to catch up on, was really missing out thinking its gonna be super cringe and BS. Thankfully Brave Story ED by Aquatimez saved the day. [*Almost forgot to consider Hikari's feelings too, especially since the next one seems abt her]
確かに、運命の歯車は我が手に在らずというわけだ。主人公が笑顔ならば、それで良し。前世の想いが間違いかどうか、誰に決められる?ウタが彼を新たな高みへ導く可能性も、幼馴染が遂に勝利を掴む未来も、全ては混沌の中で輝く可能性の一片に過ぎぬ。しかし、ヒカリの感情を忘れてはならぬ——次の話は彼女に焦点が当たるやもしれぬ故。クソ展開かと疑い、観るのを避けていた己を呪う。Aqua Timezの「Brave Story」が、この世界への扉を開いてくれたのだ。中二病
Mons9090
I agree but i mean its pretty evident that wont happen unfortunately. This is one of the few instances where the osananajimi kinda makes sense. Reita never really made sense anyway with miorin
せやな…でも残念ながらそれは絶対ないやろな。幼馴染ルートが成立する数少ないパターンやわ。玲多と澪凛は元々無理あったンゴwww2ちゃん
BootyLover299
Sir the ships are swapped what do we do?
船が入れ替わってるんだけどどうすんのこれ普通くん
Frontier246
The SS Uta is sailing strong but the SS Miori feels like it can weather the most troubled of waters. The SS Hikari is pretty much going nowhere.
SS Uta号は絶好調すぎるッ!でもSS Miori号はどんな荒波も乗り越えられそうな気がする…。SS Hikari号はほぼ動いてないな(泣)感情くん
I_like_boring_stuff2
The Miori ship is those hybrid car boats. She's accepted the MC just for who he was when he was fat and unsocialable and not some fit super sports karaoke star. She's literally on land and cannot sink.
美織船はもうハイブリッドな水陸両用ボートみたいなもんだよな。主人公がデブで陰キャだった頃の姿をそのまま受け入れてくれてて、イケメンスポーツカラオケスターとかじゃないし。もう完全に陸上に乗り上げてて沈む気配がない。普通くん
HourCartographer9
Honestly imma be real is anyone else kinda pissed off, like man gets a do over in his teenage years and he is hyperfixated on this one chick we barely see, we have uta who is being extremely open with him and yet during the hug he imagines the other girl. Thats why im glad uta took that approach and kissed him hes never gonna look at her if some one sided affection is the only thing on his mind
マジで言うけど、この展開にムカついてるのワイだけか?ww 青春やり直しできるのに、ほとんど出番ないあの女にガチ恋してるやん。 ウタはあんなにオープンに接してるのに、ハグ中に他の女想像するとか草生えるわ。 だからウタがキスしたのは正解やと思うわ。片思いだけ考えてる限り、ウタのこと見えへんやろ。2ちゃん
PotatoMoist1971
I mean, Hikari was his primary past regret. I imagine there is a level of guilt in the MC’s head even though there isn’t anything official.
つまりヒカリが彼の主な後悔だったんだよね。公式には何もないけど、主人公の頭の中ではある程度の罪悪感があるんだろうなって思う。普通くん
HourCartographer9
Yes but they’ve also had essentially 0 interaction since, all of the time has been focused on uta and miori past regret or not it’s pretty dumb to ignore the people in front of you for someone you barely talk to
せやけどその後2人が全く絡みが無いンゴ…ずっとutaとmioriに焦点当ててるし過去の後悔とか関係なく、ほとんど話さない相手のために目の前の人間無視するのバカすぎやろwww2ちゃん
PotatoMoist1971
原文
I agree. But maybe that’s the true premise. Being head over heels for someone in an imaginary sense only to develop real feelings for those that you have more exposure and interaction with. I’m anime only so I don’t know how the story is supposed to progress. Though I suspect that it will go as many are suggesting where at the end there will be a two episode arc with Hikari and all the other love interests will vanish like they weren’t carrying the majority of the load.
確かに。でもそれこそが本当のテーマかもね。想像上の誰かに夢中になって、実際に接する機会が多い相手に本気の感情が芽生えるっていう。アニメしか見てないからストーリーがどう進むかはわからないけど、最後にひかりの2話アークが来て他のヒロインが消える展開になりそうな気はする。普通くん
septesix
He spent maybe a couple of months since school started with Uta and Minori. He spent YEARS obsessing his mistake and failures over Hikari. Even if the story is leading towards Natsu having a change of heart later, it wouldn't be this early anyway.
学校始まってからウタとミノリと過ごしたのはせいぜい数ヶ月やろ。ヒカリのことで自分の過ちと失敗に憑りつかれてたのは何年もやぞ。もしこの後ナツが心境の変化を見せるにしても、こんな序盤であるわけないやん。2ちゃん
HourCartographer9
Again it’s pretty dumb from our prospective he spent a long time regretting something over hikari and now he gets a do over and instead of living his life he’s still trapped by the past or I guess future in this regard. He’s regretting problems that as of now do not even exist instead of living his life
確かに俺らから見るとバカっぽいよね。長い間ヒカリのことで後悔してたのに、人生やり直せるチャンスもらったのに、結局過去(というか未来)に縛られてる。まだ起きてもない問題を後悔して、ちゃんと生きようとしてないんだよな。普通くん
septesix
He IS living his life , which is why he went out with Uta and help with Minori’s problem instead of hyper-fixating on Hikari like some people want him to be. In case the anime hasn’t hammered into home enough in episode 3, this story is very much trying to tell that his 2nd run through over these teenage years isn’t going to go the way he had envisioned.
確かに、彼はちゃんと自分の人生を生きてるんだよな。だからこそ、一部の人が望むようにヒカリに過剰に執着するのではなく、ウタとデートしたり、みのりの問題を手助けしたりしてる。3話でアニメがこれでもかと強調してる通り、この物語は彼の2回目の青春時代が思い描いた通りには進まないってことを伝えようとしてるんだろう。考察くん
HourCartographer9
But he’s still hyper fixated on hikari him and uta got close only for him to imagine hikari and push uta away. Being shackled to your past despite getting a do over can’t be called living his life
それな…!光莉にめっちゃ執着しすぎだよッ!歌と近づいたのに光莉を想像して突き放すとかしんどすぎる。やり直しがきいても過去に縛られたままじゃ「生きてる」とは言えないよな…無理泣いた感情くん
PotatoMoist1971
He’s still living his life, just a life shackled by his past life regrets. At the core it is No different from a life shackled in fear or anxiety or uncertainty. I agree part of the story focus is experiencing a different adolescence than one he had planned or anticipated since returning. I hope Hikari and him have more development that feels genuine rather than “end game result”
この考察、めちゃくちゃ深いな。つまり彼の今の人生は、過去の後悔に縛られたまま進行しているという点で、恐怖や不安に支配される人生と本質的には変わらない、と。確かに、物語の焦点の一つは「計画された青春」ではなく「予期せぬ形で訪れた青春」をどう生きるかにあると思う。光との関係性も、単なる「ゴールとしての結末」じゃなく、もっと自然な発展を描いてほしいという願いには強く同意する。考察くん
randyburgerlocker
Just setting everything up for the main love interest to win in the end while all the other girls get all the screen time and development
ふむ……他の娘たちにたっぷり見せ場と成長を与えておきながら、結局はメインヒロインに全てを持っていかせる布石でござるな。まさに罠、いや恋愛の駆け引きといったところか。武士
Frontier246
I'm sure Hikari will get her arc next...maybe...honestly the way they've handled her has been the most perplexing part of the show.
確かに光の話はまだ来てないよね…多分…でも正直、彼女の扱われ方ってこの作品で一番謎すぎるッ!感情くん
Additional_Road_9031
the way they've handled her has been the most perplexing part of the show. Facts they have done nothing to make me like her except being cute but if they dont do anything with her in this season then thats gonna be dissapointing
あの子の扱い方が一番意味わからんわ。可愛い以外に好きになる要素ゼロやん。今期で何もやらんかったらガッカリやわ。2ちゃん
NoHead1715
Better to shock us when the yuri drops. The ED has been a warning all this while.
やばっ!百合が来た時の衝撃やばくない!?EDがずっとその警告だったってわけか〜笑ギャル
Tama47_
While the Natsuki x Uta x Miori ship sink, the true Hikari x Yuino ship rises.
ナツキ×ウタ×ミオリの船は沈んだけどな、本命のヒカリ×ユイノ船が浮上してきたンゴwww ワイはこっち推しやわ2ちゃん
Ashteron
Reminds me of that anime where MC was simping for a girl, but had close to zero development with her until the end of the seasons while having much better and more developed dynamics with other characters.
確かに、主人公がヒロインにベタ惚れしてるのにシーズン終盤までほとんど進展なくて、他のキャラとの関係の方がずっと深く描かれてるアニメあったよね。普通くん
HolyDragSwd2500
Yumemiru Danshi wa Genjitsushugisha
「夢見る男子は現実主義者」!まじで面白いよね!笑 夢見がちな主人公とリアリストなヒロインの掛け合いが最高すぎるじゃん!てかこのアニメ、もっと話題になってもいいと思うんだけどな〜ギャル
Soggy-Pay-2700
That was such a tough watch, main girl was such an attention whore
マジで見ててきつかったわ。メインヒロインがガチでかまってちゃんすぎて草2ちゃん
mojo72400
They said the LN made her likable but due to the botched adaptation, they made her tolerable at best.
マジで言うけど、原作のラノベではめっちゃ魅力的なキャラなんだけど、アニメの改変で台無しになってて、せいぜい許容範囲って感じになっちゃってるんだよね笑ギャル
testthrowawayzz
The "main girl" only gave him attention after he stopped simping for her
メインヒロイン、主人公がシンパしなくなった途端にチラ見し始めたンゴwww2ちゃん
Ashteron
Realistic.
確かに!これ現実的すぎてしんどい…感情くん
Tama47_
Real
マジだわ普通くん
Ashteron
Correct.
それな!正解じゃん!ギャル
Tama47_
Or Just Because
「Or Just Because」ってタイトル、ワイはガチで好きやわ。あの日常の空気感とか、何気ない会話がちゃんと青春してて草。特に最後の展開は泣かせにきとるやろ…。2ちゃん
Mons9090
The MC literally zeros his character development at the end. It was pretty frustrating at the end
最終回で主人公の成長が完全にリセットされたのはマジでイライラしたわ普通くん
Pancarcho
Blue box right?
ブルーボックスだよね!?てかあのアニメまじでやばくない!?ギャル
Ashteron
The one the other person mentioned.
あの人が言ってたやつだね。普通くん
Flipboarduser
Lol I thought you were talking about Re Zero for a second
ははっ、一瞬Re:Zeroの話かと思ったでござるよ武士
hasanman6
Is hakari not going to get any screentime? Shes meant to be the main love interest but i know next to nothing about her and i feel like we have had more screen with every other character at this point
はかり全然出番ないやんけ!メインヒロインのくせにマジで情報量少なすぎやろ。ワイ的には他のキャラの方がスクリーンタイム多い気がするンゴwww2ちゃん
Chemical_Ad4657
I really wanna stan Hikari but how little she's showed up makes it so difficult for me to do that. At this rate Miori is gonna run circles around her in my eyes
まじでヒカリ推したいんだけど、登場少なすぎて厳しくない!?このままだと私の中でミオリの方が圧倒的に目立ってきちゃうんだけど笑ギャル
Frontier246
原文
It's weird how we're six episodes in and we haven't developed Hikari like, at all, beyond her interacting with Natsuki in the first two episodes and alluding to her family drama. It makes it really hard to root for her getting together with Natsuki (especially for how shallow his crush seems to be) versus Uta who he's been interacting with more and who is clearly head over heels for him and willing to fight for him.
6話も進んだのに光莉の掘り下げがほとんどないの変だよね。最初の2話で夏希と絡んで家族の問題に触れただけで。正直、夏希とくっつくの応援しづらいわ(夏希の片思いも浅すぎるし)。それに比べて詩は夏希と関わるシーン多いし、明らかに夏希にベタ惚れで戦う覚悟もあるしな。普通くん
D3k4s
I mean, she doesn't show any interest in Natsuki. Unlike Uta who's just going for it. Natsuki is just stuck on Hakari cuz she's like the one that got away. But IMO he's going to realize Miori is the one for him.
せやな、ミオリは夏希に全然興味示してへんやん。ウタみたいにグイグイ行くタイプと違うわ。夏希はハカリに未練タラタラやけど、それは逃した魚がデカく見えてるだけやろ。ワイ的には最終的にミオリが運命の人って気づくと思うンゴwww2ちゃん
HolyDragSwd2500
If this was a visual novel. Hakari route would be the last girl here Seeing Uta and Miori route now
もしこれがビジュアルノベルだったら、灰原ルートがラスボス枠になるんだろうな。今は歌と美織ルート見てる感じだね。普通くん
Additional_Road_9031
Thats the problem with the show imo like she's had barley any moments in the reason at all that makes me wanna root for her like what does she even do?...
確かにそれがこの作品の問題点だと思う。ヒロインがこれまで全然活躍してなくて応援したくなれないんだよな…彼女いったい何してるの?って感じ。感情くん
Nollasta_poikkeava
I don't want to jinx it, but I think the childhood friend actually has chances here.
ジンクスになりたくないけど、幼なじみちゃんに結構チャンスある気がするんだよね。普通くん
D3k4s
Bro according to Yanami Anna from Makeine, if she's not a childhood friend she's a homewrecker 😆
やばっ!ヤナミ・アンナ(マケイン)の理論だと、幼なじみじゃない奴は全部お邪魔虫ってことになるじゃんww 草ギャル
PotatoMoist1971
As far as we know everyone but the childhood friend is a home wrecker
確かに幼馴染以外は全員泥棒猫やんwww2ちゃん
testthrowawayzz
I'm on team Miori but She has so many losing flags: ✅ Short hair ✅ Athletic ❌ Blue hair (but black hair is close enough) Come on, be the exception to the rule!
ミオリ推しだけど負けフラグ多すぎるんだよな…短髪、スポーツ少女、青髪(黒髪だけど近いし)。どうか例外になってくれ!普通くん
Frontier246
Isn’t her hair long though?
髪長すぎやろww2ちゃん
RedHeadGearHead
Don't miss the short after credits scene.
エンドロール後の短いシーンは絶対見逃すなよ。普通くん
MSFoxhound
Thanks dude!
ありがとう!マジ感謝すぎるッ!感情くん
oxlemf10
原文
The fact that Natsuki and Miori hugged, plus him watching her basketball game, was already crazy. And the main point is, it wasn't Miori who distanced herself from Natsuki, it was him who wanted that because he thought he wasn't worthy of her, which also explains why she said she liked him as he always was. The date with Uta then delivered everything and more, the tension and the almost-kiss, which in the end turned into a kiss and a declaration, and if all the bombshells weren't enough, Miori saw the scene that only confirmed what she feels for Natsuki. Now the question is whether Hikari still has a place (although Natsuki tries by remembering her before the kiss) in this love square.
夏希と美織がハグして、しかも彼女のバスケの試合を見に行ってたって時点でもうやばかったのに、本題は美織が距離を置いたんじゃなくて、夏希の方が「自分には釣り合わない」と思って距離を置いてたってことだよね。だから美織が「今のままで好き」って言ったのも納得。そして詩とのデートは全部をさらに上回ってきて、あの緊張感とほぼキス寸前からの、結局キスして告白までいく流れ。それだけでも衝撃的なのに、美織がその現場を見ちゃって、彼女の夏希への気持ちが確定的になった。問題は、この恋の四角関係に光莉の居場所がまだあるのかってとこだな(夏希はキス前に彼女を思い出そうとしてたけど)。普通くん
Frontier246
That look from Miori at the end definitely felt like "did I just see my best friend kiss my childhood friend I actually have feelings for?" Which honestly sounds like juicier drama than anything Natsuki has going on with Hikari considering how underdeveloped she and her dynamic with Natsuki is. At this point it feels like a basketball girl love triangle.
最後の美織の目つき、完全に「親友が幼なじみとキスしてるとこ見てもうた…しかもワイその幼なじみにホンマは気持ちあるねん」って感じやったな。正直夏希とひかりのゴタゴタよりこっちの方がドロドロしてて面白そう。夏希と美織の関係性が薄いし、もうバスケ女子の三角関係になってるやんwww2ちゃん
FluffyEcho1776
That look was so painful to see. I could feel her heart tightening, I hope it's a case of Hikari being an Ideal and Miori being true.
あの表情は見てて辛かったな…彼女の心が締め付けられるのが伝わってきた。ヒカリが理想像で、ミオリが現実って話だといいんだけど。普通くん
SYZekrom
原文
I totally forgot he had a sister, and she's cute af Me when a pan through an entire text conversation and the subs have a single translated line and zero clue as to which line it is until the next shot Uta What're you all doing for the Tanabata Festival? Tatsuya Even if I go it'll be after club activities Yuino Too many people, it's a bit much for me Reita Festival crowds aren't my thing either Hikari I wanna go, but I'm going out with family on the weekend I would not have lasted along against Uta as this dude has. ...Or at all. ...Well dear, there's Miori's feelings right on screen.
このキャラ、妹がいたの完全に忘れてたけど、めっちゃ可愛いな。テキストのやり取りを一気に見せられて、字幕が一行だけ訳されてて、どの行か次のカットまで全く分からないあの感覚、分かるわ。この主人公、よくウタ相手にあそこまで耐えられたな。俺なら秒でやられてた。そしてミオリの気持ちが画面にモロに出てるのが切ない。考察くん
Spiritual-Brother-83
Thank you! I was wondering about the other conversations in the chat! I get it that the entire chat wasn't plot critical but it still would have been nice to have the detail on how they ended up alone at the festival.
ありがとう!チャットの他の会話気になってたンゴwww プロットに必須じゃないのはわかるけど、なんで2人きりで祭りに行くことになったのかの詳細くらい欲しかったわ…草2ちゃん
korinokiri
I'm not getting my hopes up but if Uta loses I might lose it
期待はしてないけど、ウタが負けたらキレそう普通くん
mrgmzc
First time? Join us in the suffering of supporting the doomed ship
初めて?この絶対叶わないカップリングを応援する苦しみにようこそッ!一緒に地獄を見ようぜ…(泣)感情くん
Frontier246
It's always the ones who are the most endearing/aggressive in romance who lose, unfortunately...
残念だけど、恋愛で一番可愛かったり積極的だったりするやつが負けるんだよね…普通くん
Thick_Nectarine_3951
Literally flipping a table if he doesn’t end up with Miori. It actually wouldn’t even make sense for him to end up with anyone else. She’s the only person who never rejected him at any stage, even in the past and has cared for and supported him. Maybe I could be mildly okay with Uta, but not the main love interest at all. She had her chance during his first life
もし彼が美織と結ばれなかったら、机をひっくり返すレベルだ。他の誰かと結ばれる展開は、むしろ筋が通らない。彼女は過去も現在も、どの段階でも彼を拒絶したことがなく、ずっと気にかけて支えてきた唯一の存在だ。歌ならまだ許容範囲だが、メインの恋愛対象ではない。彼女には前世でチャンスがあったはずだ。考察くん
Additional_Road_9031
Same lmao i don't typical root for side characters but she feels like a main love intrest now imo
わかるwww 普段はサイドキャラに感情移入しないんだけど、彼女はもうメインの恋愛対象って感じがするんだよなッ!感情くん
FluffyEcho1776
I know when a ship isn't going to sail, but for the love of all that is good and holy. DEFY CANON AND MAKE MIORI AND NATSUKI GET TOGETHER I BEG YOU OH LORD.
わかってるよ、このカップルは公式じゃ無理だって。でも頼むから、神様!設定なんてぶっ壊してミオリとナツキをくっつけてくれ!!普通くん
Shadow_Ass
Fuck it, Uta for the win. She definitely won me over this episode. Where's even his main crush lmao?
くそッ、ウタが優勝だ!このエピソードで完全に心掴まれたわ。彼のメインの片思い相手はどこ行ったんだよ笑感情くん
nhzz
she will show up, ask mc the time of day cutely , and he will fall for her again, mc will then immediately proceed to demand the whole class's attention and publicly reject uta.
彼女は現れて、かわいく時間を聞いてきて、主人公はまた彼女に惚れるんだろうな。そしたら主人公はすぐにクラス中に向かって大声で歌を拒絶するんだよ。普通くん
AmethystItalian
Seeing an episode on this ship was tough...feels like the ships are already set up and this one isn't going to make the cut.
えっ、この船(カップリング)回の話見るのしんどかったんだけど…!もう他の船は決まってて、これだけは無理そうな感じがすんのやばくね?泣ギャル
Frontier246
Honestly it would take some real effort writing-wise to be able to convincingly pivot to a Hikari ship after all the development with Uta/Miori.
正直、詩/美織との関係をあれだけ描いておいて、今さらヒカリルートに説得力を持って切り替えるのは、脚本的にもかなりの努力が必要だと思う。普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
I concur
それな!完全に同意じゃん!ギャル
Soggy-Pay-2700
原文
That hug between Miori and Natsuki, why are they toying with me...giving me hope for nothing. But glad she let herself rely on him and open up to him, you can see how she's so happy being able to talk again with him after falling apart at middle school. At least it's now confirmed she has feelings for him, what a lot of us thought was the case. Uta was cute, but man this is only going to end in pain, they have to convince me really good to like Hikari as the main option, because so far she's nonexistent.
美織と夏希のあの抱擁、なんで俺を煽るようなことするんだよ…期待させといてさ。でも彼女が彼に頼って心を開けてよかった。中学でバラバラになってからまた彼と話せるのがどれだけ嬉しいか伝わってくる。少なくとも彼に気があるのは確定したね、多くの人が思ってた通り。歌は可愛かったけど、これは間違いなく苦しい展開になるやつだ。ヒカリをメイン推しとして納得させるにはかなりいいとこ見せないと無理、今のところ存在感ゼロだし。普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
I concur
それな!まじ同意!ギャル
TheThunderFromUnder
原文
I feel like the MC is just kind of leading all these girls on, whether it be intentional or not. He knows his buddy likes Uta and he knows she has a crush on him so… let’s take her on a date…? Huh? Meanwhile the girl who MC is supposedly interested in has been MIA for the past.. 3-4 episodes? It’s kinds of like they can’t flesh out a side characters story without having them fall for the MC for some reason. Everything is kinda of messy and incoherent these past few episodes. Which is a real shame because I thought the show started out well.
主人公が女の子たちを意図的にせよ無意識にせよ振り回してる気がするんだよね。友達がウタのこと好きで、ウタも主人公に気があるって知ってるのにデートに誘うってどういうこと?しかも主人公が興味あるはずの女の子はここ3〜4話も登場してないし。サイドキャラの話を描こうとすると、なぜかみんな主人公に恋愛感情を持たせないといけないみたいな流れになってる。ここ数話はごちゃごちゃしてて散漫だな。最初は良かっただけに残念。普通くん
HalfwayDecent385
Agreed. I think it works well if it ends up as a switcheroo where Miori is the actual love interest, but everything with Uta just throws it off and makes it feel bad because he is 100% leading her on.
確かに。最終的に美織が本当の恋愛対象になる展開なら良かったんだけど、詩との関係が全部それを台無しにしてて、彼が100%彼女をリードしてる感じがしてすごく気持ち悪いんだよ…しんどい感情くん
Chemical_Ad4657
We're done with volume 2 then i suppose? I'm still begging for hoshimiya crumbs and at this rate im gonna die of starvation before she shows up
これで2巻終わりってことかな?星宮の情報が欲しすぎて、このままだと彼女が出てくる前に飢え死にしそうだよ普通くん
SecretYogurtcloset57
I don't like the MC with Uta am not saying Uta is a bad girl i just prefer the MC with Miori
わかる!ウタが悪いとかじゃないんだけど、俺はミオリとの方が好きすぎるッ!感情くん
PinSingle4334
It's almost unreal how much I'm rooting for Miori.
まじでみおりのこと応援しすぎて現実味ないんだけど!笑ギャル
ObvsThrowaway5120
原文
I’m glad Miori was able to get over her passing issue, but it feels like she could have solved that one on her own if she just confronted her teammates about the shit talking in the first place. I guess they gotta have one more person falling for our super MC lol. It seems Natsuki’s wish to have the best adolescence is already coming true. That little date with Uta was pretty cute but man, you can kind of see how there’s gonna be heartbreak in the near future.
美織が自分の問題を乗り越えられて良かったけど、最初からチームメイトに陰口のことを直接言えば自力で解決できたんじゃないかなって思う。まあ、また一人うちのスーパー主人公に惚れる人が増えたってことか。夏希の「最高の青春を送りたい」って願い、もう叶い始めてるみたいだね。詩とのデートは可愛かったけど、近いうちに失恋しそうな予感がするんだよな…。普通くん
Frontier246
Natsuki is definitely in his popular phase when he's got Uta down bad for him and Miori is probably falling for him too (Reita who?). I guess he can still try and pull Hikari too for a full Harem.
え、ナツキまじですごくね!?ウタが彼に夢中で、みおりもたぶん落ちかけてるし笑(レイタって誰だよ笑)。ついでにヒカリもゲットしてハーレム完成させちゃえばいいのに!ギャル
D3k4s
Bro i dislike the use of the word Harem when this is a romance anime. Like during high school this was constantly happening, even with me at one point. More then one woman having feelings or an attraction to a guy. The same goes for guys for one woman. When you're a high schooler these things happen. I mean even as an adult to a certain point.
「ハーレム」って言葉使うのやめてほしいわ。これ恋愛アニメだし。高校時代ってこういうのよくあるじゃん、俺にもあったわ。複数の女の子が一人の男に好意持つとか、男が一人の女に惹かれるとか。高校生ならあるあるだし、大人になっても多少はそういうことあるしな。普通くん
PeaceAlien
Yeah just spend practice sessions focused on passing instead of scoring then talk to the teammates
せやな、まずは練習試合で点取りじゃなくてパス練習に専念して、それからチームメイトと話し合えってことやろな2ちゃん
Rychita_ackerman_12
Uta, please leave the protagonist alone. I think I'm one of the few who DOESN'T WANT THEM TO END UP TOGETHER. I hope Uta finally realizes she doesn't belong to him and goes crying to the one who truly loves her. That's just my humble opinion.
ウタは主人公から離れてほしい。多分俺は「2人がくっついてほしくない」派の少数派だと思う。ウタには自分が彼のものじゃないって気づいて、本当に彼女を愛してる人のとこに行ってほしいな。まあ、ただの個人的な意見だけどね。普通くん
D3k4s
Broooo i want him to end with Miori. But Uta knows what she wants, and is not afraid to show it. There's no "omg do i love him?" "no it's impossible uuhh doki doki" bs 😆
兄貴ィ!俺は三織とくっついてほしいんだよッ!でも詩歌は自分の欲しいものをわかってて、それを隠さず出すタイプ。ああいう「えっ私この人のこと好きなの?」「いやそんなわけないドキドキ」みたいなモヤモヤがないのが最高すぎる😆感情くん
PeaceAlien
Most people don't want Uta ship, but that's because they want Miori ship. I haven't seen many Hikari shippers
ほとんどの人はウタ推しじゃなくて、美織推しなんだよね。ヒカリ推しはあんまり見かけないな。普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
Hikari is literally not even in the same pic atm. But who knows, some JP writers love writing the "main heroine" last.
草、光マジで今は同じ土俵にすら立ってないやんwww でもどーせ「メインヒロインは最後に出てくる」みたいな展開くるンゴねぇ… そういうの好きな日本人脚本家おるしな2ちゃん
PotatoMoist1971
“She doesn’t belong to him” sounds a bit cruel for a character exposition.
「彼女は彼のものじゃない」ってキャラ説明としてはちょっと残酷すぎるッ!感情くん
Frontier246
Alternatively she might be the only girl to tempt him away from his Hikari crush.
彼女だけはヒカリへの想いから彼をそらせる唯一の女の子かもしれないね。普通くん
FarCritical
Could just be typical Uta cheeriness but it's honestly kinda cool how she deems Miori bigger best friend material over the other girls (or even guys) in the main group. Ball just creates that kind of bond I guess. It's funny how the abrupt shift of focus to Uta happened right after Miori felt comfortable about passing again lol
普通にうたの明るさってだけかもしれんけど、ミオリを他の女子(つーか男子含めても)メンバーより「親友枠」認定してんの結構アツいやん。やっぱボールがそういう絆作るんかね。ミオリがパスに自信持った直後に急にうたに焦点移るの草生えるわwww2ちゃん
Artistic_Task7516
The show makes it seem like they were friends before the school but they’re not. Uta met the other girls the same day she met Natsuki
このアニメ、まるで前から友達だったみたいに描いてるけど実は違うんだよね!ウタが他の女の子たちと出会ったのもナツキと同じ日だったっていうね笑ギャル
Luiiss26
I swear, Uta is so much better than Hoshimiya... she is so damn cute, and I feel soooo sorry for her... I hope she wins, but I don't think she will.
うた、星宮より断然良いよな…めっちゃ可愛いし、めっちゃ可哀想になる…勝ってほしいけど、たぶん無理そうだな。普通くん
Visual-Shopping8352
Idk I prefer Uta over Hikari so far
え、マジで?私はまだヒカリ派なんだけど笑 ウタもいいけどさ~、今のとこはヒカリの方が好きかな!ギャル
Frontier246
Uta has: Natural dynamic with Natsu. A compassionate, endearing, and fun personality. Is cute as a button, especially when it comes to her love interest. Is surprisingly aggressive in romance. It's hard not to root for her.
歌は夏と自然体な掛け合いができていて、思いやりがあり愛らしくて楽しい性格。恋愛対象に対しては特に可愛すぎるし、意外と積極的。応援せずにはいられないキャラだな。考察くん
Guilty-Tell
Well one word Miori. But it is anime romance so rest in piece childhood friend. I said it before and I say it again this is so similar to Tomozaki that I am sure he ends up with the lame girl. I can feel it and even though I expect it, I'm gonna be so pissed when it happens.
一言で言うとミオリだな。でもアニメの恋愛ものだから幼なじみはお疲れ様って感じだよ。前も言ったけどトモザキにめっちゃ似てて、多分あの地味な子とくっつくんだろうな。そうなるってわかってても、実際にそうなったらムカつきそう。普通くん
PeaceAlien
Tatsuya is the only reason I don't support Uta ship atm. They seemed to have chemistry when we first met them, but we haven't seen the group in a while.
確かに!タツヤの存在がでかすぎてウタとのカップリングを応援しきれないんだよな。最初に出会った時は相性良さそうだったのに、最近あのグループ全然出てきてないし…しんどい感情くん
Soggy-Pay-2700
I agree, but still team Miori here, both better than Hikari at least
わかる〜!でも私は未織推しなんだけどね笑 少なくともふたりとも光莉よりはずっといいじゃん!ギャル
Additional_Road_9031
It's hard not to root for her. Yep she sadly isn't the main girl but i wish she was main girl now,other then her Miori is also good.
彼女を応援せずにはいられないね。メインヒロインじゃないのが残念だけど、今はむしろ彼女がメインでいてほしいな。美織も良いキャラだと思う。普通くん
PeaceAlien
Miori > Uta >> Hikari Heck Nanase > Hikari atm. Hikari hasn't had much screen time
ミオリ>ウタ>>ヒカリだな。七瀬>今のヒカリって感じ。ヒカリの出番少なすぎるッ!感情くん
D3k4s
Yo that girl knows what she wants and is going for it, calling Miori's attention grab on the spot. Also she admits she's not the MC's love choice and yet pulls some pro level moves ( Highschool in Japan wise). You gotta respect the hustle. Although I'm rooting for Miori
あの子、自分の欲しいものをわかってて行動してるよな。ミオリのアピールをその場で指摘してたし。自分が主人公の恋愛対象じゃないって認めた上で、高校生レベルとしてはプロ級の動きしてる。そのバイタリティは尊敬するわ。でも俺はミオリ推しだけどな。普通くん
NanDemoKnaives
The date bored me lol. I don't feel the chemistry either.
デート退屈すぎて笑ったわww しかもケミストリーも感じないし無理~感情くん
MM305
原文
Clearly, they are playing the long game with Hikari! Before Natsuki can settle his dating life, he needs to approach or make a move on Hikari to at least get through the crush he still has and see if he actually has a chance or not. On the plus side for the two of them, she seemed very friendly during the first two episodes, and is not turned off or rejective of him when they talk. She just seems like a natural sweet girl. But considering the lack of time they spend tiger and the drama she seems to be dealing with, it is all up in the air. Curious to see how it all plays out. My prediction: Natsuki will be the reason she overcomes her problems at home and that will make her fall for Natsuki, adding more complications to this love drama.
明らかにヒカリに対して長期戦やな!夏希が自分の恋愛落ち着かせる前に、まずヒカリにアプローチして片思いを一旦ケリつけて、チャンスあるか確かめないと。2人のいいところとしては、最初の2話でヒカリめっちゃフレンドリーで、話しても拒否感ゼロやった。天然の優しい子って感じ。ただ一緒に過ごす時間少ないし、ヒカリもなんか事情抱えてそうで、まだ何とも言えんわ。 ワイの予想:夏希がヒカリの家庭問題を解決するきっかけになって、それでヒカリが夏希に惚れる、って展開でさらに恋愛ドラマが複雑化するンゴwww2ちゃん
djthomp
Even more relationship mess. They're definitely setting Uta up as a losing heroine that gets her heart broken, assuming there's ever any real progress with Hikari or maybe Miori. Though maybe it'll be harem drama forever with no winner.
また人間関係がややこしくなってきたな。どう考えてもウタは失恋確定の負けヒロイン枠でしょ。ヒカリかミオリの方と進展があったら、間違いなく心折られる未来が見える。でもずっとハーレム状態で誰も選ばない展開もあり得るかもね。普通くん
BBryant3rd
You go Uta definitely best girl. You aren't playing around and let him know where you stand.
うたまじでかわよ!最高のヒロインじゃん笑 迷いなく自分の気持ち伝えるとこ、マジかっこよすぎるし!ギャル
thelemon8er-2
I appreciate everyone not saying who the winner is. I’m glad I get to read discussions without being spoiled. Real bros!
勝者を言わない配慮マジでありがてぇわ。ネタバレなしで議論読めるの最高やん。みんなガチの味方やわ。2ちゃん
HopefulDimension2923
Im fully rooting for the childhood friend here
完全に幼なじみを応援してる普通くん
ChiliDemon
Why is MC favorite always bland and wrong choice
マジで主人公の推しってなんでいつも地味で間違った選択なの!?笑 てかもっと良いキャラいるじゃん!ギャル
Puzzleheaded_Play825
Sometimes you just need someone you can lean on and trust they’ll support you I really like miori and natsuki scene I can’t say for certain if miori does like him or not cause they seem more sibling coded but that look of envy at the end does speak volume!
時には頼れる誰かが支えてくれるって大事だよね。美織と夏希のシーンすごく好き。美織が彼のこと好きかどうかは確信持てないけど、どっちかって言うと兄妹っぽい関係に見えるし。でも最後のあの嫉妬の表情が物語ってるね!普通くん
Curious_Award_1480
原文
I'll admit I like Uta but I also feel its not a proper push and pull between Hikari and Uta as I assumed it would be. Like I get we're supposed to root for Uta initially, since it seems like she'll get rejected, but not seeing anything close to the intimacy of Natsuki x Uta or Natsuki x Miori for Hikari, makes me dislike the possible eventuality of Natsuki x Hikari more, which is really a shame because I like Hikari, but it seem she's getting slight shafted in terms of screentime; I need to see a switch to her at some point to even be invested in that obvious ship, and also a possible explanation for her opening visual with the glasses and that really strange curfew she seems to have. As for the Miori plot, it felt kind of basic; I was kind of hoping we'd get a slight inferiority complex regarding Natsuki's HS debut change, but I think the main shame was not seeing the full game at the start. In the end, it felt pointless, especially when Natsuki brought up how Miori stuck her nose in his business before, so he the same right to do so for her - that point alone negate the necessity of the bet in the first place
確かにウタは魅力的だけど、光莉との間で想定していたような適切な駆け引きが描かれていないのは気になるな。最初はウタを応援する構造なのは理解できるし、彼女が振られる展開を予感させる演出もわかる。ただ、夏希×ウタや夏希×美織ほどの親密さが光莉には見られないから、夏希×光莉という結末への抵抗感が強まってしまう。光莉自体は好きなキャラなのに、スクリーンタイムが明らかに少なくて、あの明らかなカップリングに感情移入するには光莉視点への切り替えが必要だと思う。彼女のオープニング映像での眼鏡ビジュアルや、謎の門限設定の説明も欲しいところ。 美織のエピソードに関してはややベタだったな。夏希の高校デビューによる変化に対する劣等感のような掘り下げを期待してたけど、結局試合の全容が見えなかったのが残念。特に夏希が「美織が以前自分に干渉したから自分も干渉する権利がある」と述べた時点で、賭けの必要性自体が否定されてしまい、結果的にこの展開は無意味に感じられた。考察くん
NanDemoKnaives
I didn't really enjoy this episode, the way Miori's yips was handled felt shallow, the date between Natsuki and Uta was really boring, and I do not like that Miori and Natsuki's relationship is turning romantic. Here I was thinking we'd get a good platonic relationship between a boy and a girl.
このエピソードはあんまり楽しめなかったな。美織のイップスの扱いが浅く感じたし、夏希と詩のデートは退屈だった。それに美織と夏希の関係が恋愛方向に進んでるのも好きじゃない。男女の良い友情関係が見られると思ってたんだけどな。普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
Yeah I feel ya. I also was surprised.. I went like— A PLATIONIC RELATION IN A JP ANIME!! Like I was seeing an endangered species for the first time.
わかるわかるッ!俺も同じこと思ったよ!まさか日本のアニメで純粋なプラトニックな関係を見るとは思わなかった……まるで絶滅危惧種を初めて見た気分だったわ!感情くん
HuTaosTwinTails
This series started well, but it's really taken a nose dive with all this forced Uta shit. Absolutely zero chemistry between him and Uta. The "main love interest" barely even is in the series. Miori is the best and hopefully actual endgame. But this devolved into typical shit harem really fast.
このシリーズ、最初は良かったんだけど、無理やりウタを絡めた展開で急降下してるよな。彼とウタの間にケミストリーが全くないし。「メインの恋愛対象」って言われてるキャラがほとんど出番ないし。ミオリが一番いいし、できれば最終的に彼女とくっついてほしい。でも典型的なクソハーレムにすぐなっちゃったね。普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
If it becomes harem I'd be mad . Uta wasn't forced tho-? Chemistry aside I mean. And yeah, Miori is likely THE ideal relationship.
ハーレム展開になったらキレるわ。でもウタは強制されてないやん?相性は別としてな。美織はガチで理想の関係やと思うわ。2ちゃん
HuTaosTwinTails
I'll finish it just because I've made it this far, but for me this is sitting around a 4/10.
マジでここまで来たから最後まで見るけど、私的には4/10くらいかなって感じ〜。ギャル
TheBeanjamcake
原文
Yea, I just caught up. The OP spoiled the story, so I never had my hopes up for Miori.. still a damn shame. The reasons behind both our FLs here feels like it was in some ways forced upon us, like I get it blud helps you out and is a decent guy (Hoshimiya), common interest galore and pref (Uta). I feel like if the story had Miori along with Tatsuya as the two people who looked after our MC in the OG timeline, I believe our MC would have chosen differently. It doesn't help that their relation is very platonic throughout aside from snippets here and there. There's also not enough screen time for other charas aside from the ongoing romcom, like sheesh this pacings like, really bad. Kieta and Miori's relation feels like a leap, the 20s post credit scene with Miori witnessing Natsu and Uta was like a slap. And srsly is Tatsuya actually tried to appeal to Uta either, their mood matches a lot but bluds suckin his thumb smh. Kieta is strangely written. Yuino is only a support chara. Seri is funny in a good way but had no screen time. That being said for all its flaws, I think its a 6.5/10 for me. I've def seen much worse.
わかる、俺も追いついたところだ。OPがストーリーをネタバレしてたから、最初からミオリに過度な期待はしてなかったけど…それでもやっぱり惜しいな。両ヒロインの動機付けがやや強引に感じられるんだよな。星宮は確かに助けてくれた良いやつだし、ウタとは共通の趣味や嗜好が多いってのは理解できる。もし元のタイムラインでタツヤとミオリの二人が主人公の面倒を見る立場だったら、主人公の選択は変わってたかもしれない。それに全体的に彼らの関係がプラトニックすぎるんだよな、断片的なシーンを除けば。進行中のラブコメ以外のキャラのスクリーンタイムも足りてないし、テンポが本当に悪い。キエタとミオリの関係性は飛躍しすぎてて、20代のポストクレジットでミオリが夏とウタを見るシーンはマジで胸に刺さった。あとタツヤは本当にウタにアプローチしようとしてるのか?雰囲気は合ってるけど、指しゃぶってるだけじゃねえか。キエタのキャラ描写も変だし、結衣乃はただのサポートキャラ。芹は良い意味で面白いけど出番が少ない。そんな欠点はありつつも、俺的には6.5/10かな。もっと酷い作品も見てきたし。考察くん
testthrowawayzz
Can’t blame Uta for making a move, especially when Miori is still being wishy washy on whether she likes Natsuki or not.
確かにウタの気持ちもわかるよ。ミオリがナツキに対して気持ちをはっきりさせないままだしね。普通くん
Grazalia
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You know I keep seeing the band in the opening and in line when are they gonna get to that lol it's 6 episodes left. All we got is Haibara Husslin children at basketball 😂 Is good Miori is on better terms now. Being in high school and being an outcast in the sports team you want to be in must be rough. Isn't it strange that Haibara agreed on a one on one date with Uta even though he knows she's still sort of yearning for him? Like few episodes he was fully aware and was like omg. He can't be that dense right? Uta's character summed up in one sentence: "Was she that thirsty?" 🤣 I just thought to myself, what happens if Haibara wakes up one day and of back to his original self as an adult and everything he just went through didn't happen? Would he be better for it? Our would he spiral?
オープニングのバンドいつ出てくるんやマジで草 残り6話しかないやんwww 今んとこ灰原がバスケでガキどもとハッスルしてるだけやんけw みおりんと仲直りできたのは良かったな。高校で入りたい部活でハブられるのはガチでキツいやろな。 灰原はウタがまだ自分に未練あるの知っててデートOKしたんか? 普通に考えておかしくね? 前の話ではガッツリ気づいて「うわっ」ってなってたやん。まさかここまで鈍感なわけ…? ウタのキャラ一言でまとめると「そこまでのど渇いてたんか?」🤣 もし灰原が急に元の大人の姿に戻って、今までの経験全部なかったことになったらどうなるんやろな。その方が幸せなんか? それともドツボにハマるんか?2ちゃん
Artistic_Task7516
He doesn’t necessarily not like her He has a crush on the other girl but not like it’s more than just thinking she’s cute
彼女のこと嫌いってわけじゃないんだよね。他の子に片思いしてるけど、かわいいなって思う以上の感情じゃないと思う。普通くん
1032patrick
There is anime where the MC chose the childhood friend over the main heroine so maybe there is a chance for Miori if the author thinks in that direction.
せやな、幼なじみが勝つアニメもあるしな。もし作者がその方向で考えてくれたら三織にもワンチャンあるかもな。ワイは応援したいンゴwww2ちゃん
ImNicoReal
MIORI SAW EVERYTHING, AND SHE REACTED, WE ARE IN MIORI BOIS, WE'RE IN. I HAVEN'T CELEBRATED SO HARD IN MY LIFE.
ミオリがぜんぶ見てたし反応してくれたッ!ミオリ陣営入ったぞ!!人生で一番祝ってる優勝!!感情くん
Frontier246
原文
If you want to get through to a basketball player, you have to beat them at basketball. And thank goodness Miori wasn't there when Natsuki schooled Tatsuya, so she has no idea he's pretty good at basketball as he schools her too. Miori has tried her hardest to appear strong and not show any weakness, not let anyone see her as vulnerable, but she doesn't have to put up a front towards Natsuki. If anyone could accept her for who she is, for what's going on in her head, all her doubts...it's him. He even embraces her! In front of Uta! But it's what Miori really needs to let herself finally let down her walls and talk about her true feelings. Because Miori heard all her Senpai badmouthing her for standing out, she just couldn't bring herself to pass to them and cop an attitude, even though she knew it wasn't good for the team. But Natsuki can be there for her like no one was there for her, and knowing how much it hurt her that Natsuki rejected her in middle school, it's exactly what she needs to hear! Even if Uta is feeling more and more like the third wheel here, poor girl! Miori has passing yips? Nothing a passing triangle with Natsuki and Uta won't solve! Thanks to Uta the team vibe improves and when it's gametime, Natsuki is there to see Miori FINALLY passing and getting along with her Senpai! She finally did it! Look at Natsuki going on a festival date with Uta, dressed beautifully in a yukata! Guess he's taking Miori's advice to not just dwell on Hikari all the time. And, admittedly, despite some awkwardness they both have a lot of fun on the date! Even if Uta is not at the level where she can introduce her crush to her parents. Yeah, video game FPS' do not translate to rifle carnival games, Natsuki. Was Natsuki motioning to kiss Uta before he thought of Hikari? It really seemed like it. "Was she really that thirsty?" She was thirsty for an indirect kiss via yakisoba AND a real kiss when she kisses Natsuki's cheek, basically confessing her feelings and declaring she'll win his heart! Him falling in love with her WAS her true festival wish after all! Go Uta! Oh dang, Miori saw the kiss! And she seems...troubled by it?
バスケ選手に伝えたいなら、バスケで勝つしかない。そして幸いなことに、夏樹がタツヤを圧倒した場面に美織はいなかったから、彼女は夏樹がバスケがかなり上手いことを知らないんだ。美織は強く見せようと必死で、弱さを見せず、誰にも脆さを悟られまいとしてきた。でも夏樹の前ではそんな仮面を被る必要はない。彼女の全てを受け入れられるのは、彼しかいない。彼は彼女を抱きしめたんだ、歌の前で!でもそれが美織には必要だったんだろう、壁を崩して本音を話すために。先輩たちが自分を陰で悪く言うのを聞いて、美織はパスを出せずに態度に出てしまっていた。チームのためにならないと分かっていても。でも夏樹は、誰も彼女の味方でなかった時と同じようにそばにいてくれる。中学で振られた傷が深いからこそ、彼の言葉は響くんだ。歌が三人目のようになりつつあるけどね、可哀想に!美織のパス恐怖症?夏樹と歌とのパストライアングルで解決だ!チームの雰囲気が良くなり、試合ではついに美織が先輩たちとパスを回し合う!ついにやったんだ!夏樹は歌と浴衣デートに行く。美織のアドバイスでヒカリだけに囚われないようにしたのか。ぎこちなさはありつつも、二人は楽しんでいる。歌がまだ親に紹介できるレベルじゃないけどね。そういえば、射的ゲームはFPSとは別考察くん
bladdrwg
Much like an actual new game+, we're out here side questing instead of following the established main plot line. Gonna be real unfortunate for the Hikari agenda if the side quests end up being more enjoyable.
それこそ本当のニューゲーム+みたいだな。確立されたメインストーリーを追わずにサイドクエストやってる感じ。もしサイドクエストの方が楽しくなっちゃったら、ヒカリ推しには厳しい展開になりそうだね。普通くん
ICantSeeLikeSa-chan
ganbare, Uta.
がんばれ、歌…ッ!(泣)感情くん
3_Zip
Well yeah of course she's just in time to see that no more than 10 seconds kiss
ああ、もちろん彼女は10秒も経たないキスを目撃するのにちょうど間に合ったんだよね普通くん
Fit_Advice_1689
原文
Nice main love interest, would be a real shame if we just didn’t do shit with her. Same complaint as last week, Hikari is nowhere to be seen and every other girl is putting in work. At this point I’m rooting for Uta, idc if she’s gonna lose. Hikari better have hella development on this last half here, could not care less about her and they’re just building up other heroines just to let us down. Really not loving this writing, unless they’re staging an Uta or Miori win.
メインヒロインいい感じやんって思ったら全然活躍させねえのかよ。先週と同じ不満やわ、ヒカリどこいったんや他の女の子ばっか頑張っとるやん。もうワイはウタ推しで行くわ、負けるってわかってても構へん。ヒカリは後半でガッツリ成長見せてくれや、今のところ全く興味湧かんし、他のヒロインばっか育ててガッカリさせるパターンやろ。ウタかミオリが勝つ展開なら別やけど、今の脚本はマジで好きになれんわ。2ちゃん
Mons9090
Feel bad for tatsuya . The first thing that came to mind when i first looked at the title of this anime was haibara from jjk for some reason
達也には気の毒だな。このアニメのタイトル初めて見た時、なんとなく呪術廻戦の灰原くん思い出したわ普通くん
PinSingle4334
Tatsuya has to accept that Uta loves someone else at the same way Uta has to accept that Natsuki loves someone else
え、まじで切なすぎじゃん!?お互いに好きな人が別にいるって認めなきゃいけないの、つらすぎるってば…😭ギャル
Mons9090
I mean im assuming in the original timeline tatsuya ends up with uta
え、そうなの!? 原作タイムラインだと達也が歌ちゃんとくっつくってことか…! それマジでしんどすぎる…ッ!感情くん
PinSingle4334
I'm not so sure about that. Yeah Natsuki second life messed the original timeline but I think the whole story is a teaching that even when you try to " retry " what you have done already, not everything is an established path so maybe Natsuki cannot end with Hoshimiya, Tatsuya cannot end with Uta and Miori canmat end with Reita regardless of Natsuki's actions
いや、それはどうかな。確かに夏希のセカンドライフが元のタイムラインをぶっ壊したのは事実やけど、この作品って「リトライ」しても全部が決まったレール上にあるわけじゃないって教訓なんじゃね?つまり夏希がどんなに頑張っても星宮とくっつくとは限らんし、達也が詩と、美織が零太と結ばれるとも限らんって話やろ。2ちゃん
Mons9090
I mean maybe i shouldnt take time travel too seriously in a literal rom anime lol. From what ive seen its gonna end up as a harem and hes going to choose hoshimiya
確かにタイムトラベルをリアルな恋愛アニメで真面目に考えるもんじゃないかもな笑。見た感じハーレムになって星宮選ぶんだろうね。普通くん
Artistic_Task7516
This guy sucks if he doesn’t pick Uta
こいつ、ウタ選ばないとかマジでありえへんわww2ちゃん
TheBeanjamcake
Yeah, I think MC should stop getting tunnel vision and look at Miori and Uta equally as well. Its only respectful to do so.
まじそれ!主人公はミオリとウタの二人をちゃんと平等に見るべきだよね〜。そうするのが最低限のリスペクトじゃない?笑ギャル
mojo72400
Yep, Miori's getting over Reita & now targeting Natsuki. This is totally Miori's fault for being a ball hogger, at least Natsuki & Uta helped her get over her problem. Uta finally made her intentions know w/ that confession. Uta has a cute pout.
確かに、美織は玲汰への気持ちを整理しつつ、今度は夏希をターゲットにしているな。これは完全に美織のボール独占癖が原因だが、少なくとも夏希と詩が彼女の問題克服を助けた。詩はあの告白でようやく自分の意思を明確にした。詩の口をとがらせる表情が可愛いという考察ができる。考察くん
WalkingAbacus
Poor Uta. She got no chance. She tried her best tho. Also, miori saw that uta kissed haibara on the cheek. Things are getting spicy.
うたちゃんかわいそうに。全然チャンスなかったね。でも頑張ってたよ。それに、みおりもうたが灰原くんの頬にキスしたの見ちゃったし。話がアツくなってきたな。普通くん
1032patrick
Ever since the PV, I really liked Miori because she looked fun to be with and just amazing overall and I was right. I like Hikari but not as much as Miori. This is why I don't like when these stuff happens that the supporting character is so amazing and it makes me want to root for her than the heroine but I know the chance is slim unless this anime is different from the usual.
PVの時から美織がすごく気になってて、一緒にいて楽しそうで全体的に魅力的だと思ってたけど、その直感は正しかった。ヒカリも好きだけど美織ほどじゃない。こういうサブキャラがめちゃくちゃ魅力的だと、ヒロインより応援したくなっちゃうのが辛いところだよな。でもこのアニメが王道と違う展開でない限り、美織の勝ち目は薄いというのが考察できる。考察くん
TheBeanjamcake
I agree. If it feels forced I'll bomb this story.
確かに!無理やり感出たらこの話は詰むでしょ…。それが一番嫌なパターンすぎる。感情くん
No-Regular2553
so you are telling me, hikari won at the end and miori stays as a childhood friend? god dang it
え、まじで!?光が勝っちゃって美織は幼なじみのまま終わるってこと!?やばくね!?マジかよー!!ギャル
_peppe_brescia_
Uta reminds me Hina from Blue box, so I have PTSD from that. Hikari absolutely useless till now, just like Chinatsu
確かにウタはアオのハコのひなを思い出すな…あれでトラウマになったわ。ヒカリは今のところ千夏みたいに完全に役立たずだね。普通くん
aOe_007
Hikari absolutely useless till now, just like Chinatsu Oh fr;... Tell me more about it 😂🤣
光莉マジで今まで使えなさすぎやろ、千夏と同じやん… せやな、もっと詳しく聞かせてくれや😂🤣2ちゃん
ChocoTitanium
Ahhhh. Honestly, Uta just irritates me. And I dislike her for holding his hand and kissing him without permission while knowing his heart lies with someone else. Plain disrespectful towards his feelings. Why should her feelings be more important than his current ones? I hope he rejects her ASAP.
うーん…確かにウタの行動は考察する価値があるな。彼の心が別の人間にあると知りながら、許可なく手を握ったりキスをするのは、明らかに彼の感情を軽視している行為だ。自分の感情を彼の現在の気持ちより優先させるのは、キャラクターとしての倫理観に疑問が残る。早急に彼が拒絶する展開になるべきだと思うんだよな。考察くん
Frontier246
I mean, he almost kissed her before stopping himself, so it seems like it's more mutual than one-sided.
確かに!もうチューしそうになって止めたってことは、片想いじゃなくて両想いって感じだよなッ!エモすぎる〜!感情くん
Artistic_Task7516
People don’t seem to understand he’s not in love with Hikari. He just thinks she’s hot.
草、みんな勘違いしてるけどコイツは光に恋してるわけじゃないんやで。ただ単に「エロいな」と思ってるだけやろw2ちゃん
ChocoTitanium
Was it love or just getting caught in a moment and being subconsciously thrilled that a cute girl is into him?
恋愛なのか、それとも可愛い子に好かれてるってだけで無意識に舞い上がっちゃっただけなのか、微妙なとこだね。普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
原文
Nah man, we have no clue what led to our MCs one sided feelings. Most likely it was just Hikari being a good person to MC during his darkest period and or just love at first sight. Plus, permission and stuff heavily depends on the country's culture and personal beliefs. As for whose feelings are Imp, Natsu will not stop Uta when he himself is in the same situation as her. Him rejecting her without giving her a chance is the same for him in Hikari's case. Everyone should have a chance, if it doesn't work out, it just doesn't.
いやマジで、なんで主人公が一方的に惚れたのかマジで分からんわ。多分ヒカリがどん底の時に優しくしたからか、一目惚れやろな。許可とかの話は国や個人の価値観次第やしな。んで誰の気持ちが大事かって話やけど、ナツは自分が同じ立場ならウタを止めへんやろ。チャンスも与えずに振るのは、ヒカリの件で自分も同じことしとるやん。みんなチャンスはあるべきやし、ダメならそれまでやろ。2ちゃん
bestsocialdistancer
Not a fan of Uta x Natsuki…prefer her with the hoodie guy. But now I’m wondering if Reita guy is not into girls?
ウタ×ナツキはあんまり好きじゃないな…パーカー着てたあの男の子とくっついてほしい。でも今思ったんだけど、レイタって女の子に興味ない系?普通くん
FollowingCurrent8797
dude i actually hate hikari so much if he ends up with her im ending everything
ワイはヒカリがガチで嫌いやわ。もしコイツとくっつくンゴなら全部終わらせるわwww2ちゃん
TheBeanjamcake
Lol I said the same thing. No need to hate Hikari tho, she's like a bystander caught in the mess rn.
わかるわかる!笑 でもヒカリのこと嫌わなくていいじゃん?今の状況って完全に巻き込まれただけの部外者って感じだし〜ギャル
Feisty-Syllabub-2037
Ho adorato davvero tanto i primi due episodi in cui sembrano sviluppare le dinamiche tra Hikari e Haibara. Gli episodi successivi boh, Uta la trovo molto noiosa
最初の2話で光と灰原の関係性が深まってく感じはガチで良かったわ それ以降の話は…うーん、ウタがめっちゃ退屈やったわ2ちゃん
Zxzxzx0088
Whoops, she starts feelin it. There's only one route in this game! The point of New Game+ is doing something that you never done before so just embrace them all including imouto , Natsuki ! (˵ ¬ᴗ¬˵)
おっと、彼女が感じ始めてるね。このゲームのルートは一つだけだ!ニューゲーム+のポイントは、今までやったことのないことをすることだよ。だから妹の夏希も含めて全部受け入れようぜ (˵ ¬ᴗ¬˵)普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
Just no. I'd rather be a prude.
いやマジで無理。ワイは堅物でいいわ。2ちゃん
1032patrick
In SAO, Asuna vs Sinon or Alice, Easily Asuna but in this anime...I want Miori to win but don't want Hikari to get rejected so yeah this is a problem.
うわっ、SAOだとアスナvsシノンorアリスなら余裕でアスナだけどさ〜このアニメだとミオリに勝ってほしいけどヒカリが振られるのは嫌じゃん?笑 まじで難問すぎるんだけど!ギャル
Nickthenuker
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Teach her something? Basketball? Ok... And so they be ballin' He hugged her! So, she heard others talking shit about her. Huh. Is she only comfortable passing to him? Support her? Lol meanwhile she's here as the lightbulb to interrupt their little world of their own. What's she doing here? Ok... And so she be ballin' The moment he leaves she's going to mess up again isn't she? What's happening? Oh, he's going to the festival with her. And festival means yukatas. A girl, just probably not the one he was hoping for. Nom. Lol he wants to go to her family's shop? Ok then... She's blushing! And so now she's holding his sleeve. So, she gave him that. Lmao even when she's in his arms he can only think of the other girl. What was her original wish then? Handholding! I suppose he's seen her home then. She kissed him!
バスケ教えるのか……なるほど。で、彼女がプレイしてる。彼がハグした!で、周りが彼女の悪口言ってるの聞いちゃったのか。彼にしかパス出せないの?サポートしてる?笑 彼女はただ二人の世界に割り込む電球みたいな存在じゃん。何しに来たんだ?で、彼女がプレイしてる。彼がいなくなったらまたミスるんだろうな?何が起きてる?あ、彼が一緒に祭りに行くのか。祭りって浴衣だよな。相手は女の子だけど、多分彼が望んでた子じゃない。むしゃむしゃ。笑 彼は彼女の実家の店に行きたいのか?そうか……彼女が赤面してる!で、今は彼の袖を掴んでる。それを彼に渡したのか。笑 彼の腕の中にいるのに、彼は他の女の子のことしか考えてない。彼女の元々の願いは何だったんだ?手つなぎ!多分彼が彼女を家まで送ったんだな。彼女がキスした!普通くん
Ok-Dog-367
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So about the story . I basically don't know about how it will go through. It's love triangle anime and I particularly don't like this type of romance. But seeing how Uta(red hair girl) have more interaction with the MC I feel like I just have to go for her. The MC crush basically don't have any emotional relationship with the MC yet. But as you can see she's the main girl in the front page of the comic so I think she will ultimately become his girl (don't spoil me let me be curious who will become his girl) I actually will go for the red hair girl for MC since she actually can go to far extend to make him call in love he even kiss the guy. I always have feeling for girls that like to show their love first istead of hiding it like for example Miku from ququintessential quintuplets.
ストーリー全然読めてないンゴwww 三角関係ものか〜ワイはこういう恋愛モノあんま好きちゃうねん。でも赤髪のウタが主人公とめっちゃ絡んでるし、こっち推したい気持ち分かるわ。主人公の片思い相手はまだ感情的な繋がりないしな。でも表紙のメインヒロインやから結局そっちになるんやろな(ネタバレすんなよ、ワイも気になってるンゴ)。ワイは赤髪の子推すわ、主人公惚れさせるためにキスまでしとるしな。五等分の三玖みたいに隠さんと、ガンガン愛情出す女の子好きやわ。2ちゃん
NoHead1715
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Unfortunately it looks like Uta is destined for the losing heroine route. Right now she just looks like a little sister having a crush. Miori stands an even higher chance than her. Meanwhile I think Natsu might just wake up from this best adolescence dream after running through all the routes like a VN. The true end will just be, life carries on where he left off, except now he has the benefit of some growth from the dream.
うーん、ウタは負けヒロインルートまっしぐらっぽいな。今のところただの恋する妹キャラにしか見えないし、ミオリの方がまだチャンスありそう。一方でナツは、ビジュアルノベルみたいに全ルートやり尽くした後で、この最高の青春ドリームから目覚めるんじゃないかな。真エンドは、夢から得た成長を活かしつつ、普通に日常に戻る感じになりそう。普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
Thats what I was wondering, first I though bro ded havin a smoke or smth. Then again this kinda story doesn't rly have a real overarching plot.
ワイも思ったンゴwww 最初は死体がタバコ吸ってるのかと思ったわ。でもこういう話って大筋のプロットあんまないしな。草2ちゃん
Prince_of_Taniwha13
Starting to wonder what all the fuss is about hikari considering we know nothing about her. Haibara going get more acreentine woth the guitar chick before her. It almost feels on purpose atp like theres some big mystery/bombshell coming up about Hikari
確かに現時点ではヒカリに関する情報が少なすぎるから、彼女がなぜ注目されてるのか疑問に思うのは当然だな。むしろ灰原くんはギターのあの子(アカリ)と先に交流を深めてるし、制作陣が意図的にヒカリの正体をミステリーとして引っ張ってる可能性が高い。今後の大きな伏線か衝撃的な展開が控えてるんだろうな。考察くん
Pipinpopodlis
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Its really annoying to me how its clear netsuki has one goal and its to end up with Hikari and he's getting pursued by two different girls who get screen time every single episode instead of her... Like I'm sorry but Uta's being ignorant and honestly stupid with how she handles things cause even she admitted to netsuke saying she knew he was into someone else and she's still putting him on the spot... Sounds weird, as for Miori I dont really mind but if its a competition it has to be between Hikari and Miori, Uta shouldn't be more involved then both. Imo of course
確かにネツキがヒカリ一筋なのは明白なのに、毎話スクリーンタイムある女二人に追われてるのウザいわ…ウタはネツキが他に好きな人いるの知ってて詰め寄ってるし、無知というか正直バカだと思う。ミオリは別にいいけど、勝負するならヒカリとミオリの間であって、ウタが二人より出しゃばるべきじゃない。まあ個人的な意見だけど。普通くん
TheBeanjamcake
Well on hindsight, I think Uta is a representation of how your feelings stop you from making rational choices. Plus the drama ofc. I don't think highly of Natsuki's goal frankly, ideally I wish he wouldn't hyperfixate on who to romance and let the water flow and wind pass naturally.
ワイ的にはウタって「感情が理性を鈍らせる」って象徴なんかなって思うンゴね。もちろんドラマ部分も含めてやけど。夏希の目標は正直あんま評価できんわ、理想言えば恋愛対象にこだわりすぎんと、水の流れや風に身を任せるのがええと思うんやけどな。2ちゃん
DickUsual
After watching the episode, I want Uta to win
観終わったけど、ウタに勝ってほしすぎるッ!感情くん