灰原くんの強くて青春ニューゲーム

AutoLovepon
星へ
文化祭当日。タイムリープ前は用意されなかったクラスTシャツをもらい、感動する夏希。そんななか、大事な話があると詩に誘われ、夏希は一緒に文化祭を回ることに。2日目、夏希たちのバンドの出番が回ってくる。
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thetank77
I wish they would've subbed the song...
てか曲も字幕つけてほしかったんだけど〜…ギャル
BlazeBloom
This song goes out to the girl I like! I don't know what Natsuki is saying, but he's spitting bars! (Probably)
この曲、好きな子に捧げるぜッ!Natsuki何言ってるか分からんけど、バチバチにかましてる!!(たぶん)感情くん
Frontier246
Admittedly I feel like the visuals at least worked for "Monochrome" if it's meant to be a recap of his live (hence the flashbacks).
正直、映像は「Monochrome」に合っていた気がするでござる。彼の人生の振り返りなら、回想も道理であるな。武士
DifficultFriend2748
原文
Here's a rough translation. I'm not 100% sure on a few parts, but it's more or less accurate: The more real my feelings are, the less I can put them into words, The more precious something is, the more it slips away from me. The reason I can't smile properly is because I don't want to be disliked. A world distorted into shades of grey. Even the future, even tomorrow simply wishing and saying "surely, surely..." won't change anything, can't change anything. Even if it's small (right now), step by step, I guide myself toward the direction my heart calls me. I want to feel more connected with you. (or "I want to connect with you more") Even if it's (I'm) pathetic, even if it looks uncool (or "I look uncool"), that's okay. Toward the dazzling colours (or "far too" / "very dazzling", I guess) reflected in those eyes that look forward. Come on, reach out your hand! I don't want to have any more regrets. Rewriting the monochrome world and those faded days over and over again, erasing them and rewriting them, I race through the day that I've finally arrived at. The sky I look back upon shines with rainbow colours. I believe that / that's what I believe I keep believing that. Blue spring. Here's the JP transcription: 本当の気持ちほど伝えられないまま 大切なものほど指をすり抜ける 上手く笑えないのは 嫌われたくないから 灰色にゆがんだ世界 未来も明日さえ きっと きっとなんて 願うだけじゃ 何も変わらない 何も変えられない 今 小さくとも 一歩一歩 心が呼ぶ方へと 自分自身を導いてく 君ともっとつながりたい みじめでも かっこうわるくてもいいんだ 前を向いたその目に映る 眩しすぎる色彩へ さあ、その手を伸ばせ! 後悔はもうしくない モノクロの世界と色あせた日々を 何度でも書き直して また消しては たどり着いた今日を 駆け抜けてゆく 振り返る空が 虹色に輝く そう信じてる そう信じてく 青い春~
ざっくり訳やけど、数カ所は自信ないわ。だいたい合っとると思う: 本当の気持ちほど伝えられんまま 大切なものほど指をすり抜ける 上手く笑えんのは嫌われたくないから 灰色にゆがんだ世界 未来も明日さえ「きっと」って願うだけじゃ何も変わらん 今 小さくとも一歩一歩 心が呼ぶ方へ 君ともっとつながりたい みじめでもかっこ悪くてもええんや さあ、その手を伸ばせ! 後悔はもうしたくない モノクロの世界を何度でも書き直して たどり着いた今日を駆け抜けてく 振り返る空が虹色に輝く そう信じてる 青い春〜 (歌詞ガチで良いンゴ)2ちゃん
DifficultFriend2748
原文
Doesn't let me edit my post for some reason... anyway, this is "Monochrome". I can do the other one too. I guess "To the Stars" is the more important one, I just kinda got them mixed up for some reason 😆 Edit: Here's my very rough translation of "To the Stars" since it kinda got lost in the replies below: "I was saved by those nonchalant words you spoke to me that day" or "The casual/nonchalant words you spoke to me that day saved me" 苦手でも (1)、好きなことはある (2)、今を見つめるその瞳 (3) It reads something like: "Even if I'm not good at it / even if I struggle with things (1), there's something I like / there are things I like (2), those eyes that keep looking at the present (the now) (3). Could also be something like: "Even if you struggle with things, you have things you love — (and also) those eyes that stay focused on the present." "I realised (even) someone like me isn't wrong (or "a mistake"). There's no (right) answer, I ran away — I couldn't decide anything (basically "couldn't make a decision"). I was afraid of being hurt, and of hurting someone (else). Fluttering, fluttering — cherry blossoms drift (lit. "dance") along the tree-lined street (並木道 is a pretty nice word). Because I met you there... (I think it's actually more like "because that's how I met you", but you get the point) Even if I reach out toward the moon reflected on the water's surface (had some trouble with 水面/みなも), I'll change the world you see through this music. These feelings that feel like they'll overflow — for a full moon night... they can't wait (anymore)." I'll send them to you now — beyond that star / towards that star. ("star" is a play on words, since her name has "hoshi")
なぜか投稿を編集できないんだけど…これは「Monochrome」ね。もう片方もやれるよ。たぶん「To the Stars」の方が大事だよね、なんか混同しちゃった😆 以下「To the Stars」のざっくり訳↓ 「あの日君がくれた何気ない言葉に救われた」みたいな感じ。並木道に舞う桜、水面に映る月に手を伸ばして…って感じの歌詞だよ。"star"は彼女の名前の「ほし」との掛け言葉だね。普通くん
calcalcalcal
原文
Here's my attempt at a rough translation of the 2nd song. I'm not that good so it took me 10+ repeat watches lol. And most likely there are errors. あの日君が言った 何気ない 言葉に救われた 苦手でも 好きなことはある 今を見つめるその瞳 こんな自分も 間違いじゃないんだと The words you said nonchalantly that day "There are something I'd like even though I'm bad at it" as you stared with your eyes now. Even I cannot mistake them. 答えなんかない 俺は逃げた 何も決められない 誰かが 傷つくこと 傷つけることが 怖がってたんだ I had been running away and being indecisive. I have been sacred of being hurt and hurting others. ひらひら 桜舞う並木道 そう 君に出会ったから The roadside trees where the sakura petals were fluttering down, yes, that's where I met you. 水面に映る月に 手を伸ばしている どうしても この音楽で 君が見ている世界を変える I'm reaching out my hand in the moonlight that's shining on the water surface I would change the world you're seeing with this music. 溢れ出しそうな この思いは 満月の夜なんて 待っていられない 今君に届け あの星へと I am overflowing with my thoughts I cannot wait until a night of full moon. I will reach you now, to the star (TL note: Hoshi (星) is star and it's also her name of course) EDIT: Thanks for the correction!
2曲目のざっくり訳に挑戦してみた。下手やから10回以上見返したわ草。たぶんミスある。修正ありがとな!2ちゃん
DifficultFriend2748
Honestly, that's pretty good 😄 Just a few corrections: It's 今を見つめるその瞳 not そうな瞳 And 水面(みなも)に映る not 皆もに映る I wrote my own (very rough) interpretation as a reply under u/Rammelsmartie , I'm just not sure how to interpret this part - 苦手でも 好きなことはある 今を見つめるその瞳 - with the dropped subject and all... is it about Hoshimiya, is it about him, no idea.
正直かなり良いよ😄 ちょっとだけ訂正すると、「そうな瞳」じゃなくて「今を見つめるその瞳」、あと「皆もに映る」じゃなくて「水面(みなも)に映る」だね。自分もu/Rammelsmartieのところに返信で(かなり雑な)解釈書いたけど、「苦手でも 好きなことはある 今を見つめるその瞳」の部分は主語が省略されてて解釈が難しいな…星宮のことなのか彼のことなのか、全然わからん。普通くん
calcalcalcal
I wasn't sure if it's about hoshimiya's love of writing (unlikely) or him being 変えようとする from his previous life either. but the eyes are definitely hoshimiya's so i'm 80% sure it's about protag.
ホシミヤの書くことへの愛の話なのか(それはなさそうだけど)、それとも主人公が前世から変えようとする話なのか、わかんなかったんだよね〜。でも目は完全にホシミヤのやつじゃん!だから80%くらい主人公の話だと思うんだけど笑ギャル
DifficultFriend2748
原文
Yeah, the "eyes" are Hoshimiya's for sure. "苦手でも (1)、好きなことはある (2)、今を見つめるその瞳 (3)" is really vague and kinda disjointed, so I'd rather not make any guesses, I just translated it more literally, and left it up to interpretation. Just one more thing: こんな自分も、間違いじゃないんだと doesn't work for "even I cannot mistake them", it's just grammatically not possible to mean that. こんな自分も = "even someone like me" / "even me as I am" 間違いじゃない = "is not wrong / is not a mistake" んだと = "I realised" Songs are really tough to interpret 😃 pretty fun though. For the record, I'm around N2-N1, not a native speaker, so I've probably made some mistakes / incorrect interpretations. I also had to listen to it like 50 times lol
うん、“eyes”は確実にHoshimiyaのだね。歌詞は曖昧だから直訳寄りにした。「こんな自分も〜」はその訳にはならない。曲の解釈は難しいけど楽しい😃 50回くらい聴いたw普通くん
TeoShaoWei
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Thanks for the lyrics! 🙏 I was looking for an official source and reached here instead. This song is really beautiful. There have been many anime with flashbacks, but singing it as a song like this is so beautiful, I listened to it many times ❤️ Seems like there are some unwrapped questions here. As a thank-you to you for the lyrics, I would like to make a guess here as a non-Japanese Asian, hopefully with a similar cultural background, so as not to be too far off contextually... While Natsuki intended to get together with Hoshimiya after his time leap, he got lost halfway, unable to answer either Uta or Hoshimiya because he was afraid of being hurt or of hurting others. In anime ep11, he realised that Hoshimiya accepted him as the uncool kid who made his high school debut, and wanted to be the one to nudge him when needed. That's when he made his decision and penned this song, using their past experience, as a love letter to her. One experience is the time in ep2 when Hoshimiya is the one who chose the outing venue, when she lost in table tennis to Natsuki, she said "so what if she is bad at all sports as long as she likes to do it". This made Natsuki feel that even though he was a "failure", he wasn't a "mistake" (abit subtle... any non-asian can watch some Steven He to get a sense of what this might mean 😂). Some JRock context, as a long-time L'arc~en~ciel fan listening to Hyde's lyric half of my life: I think there's no need to translate the song literally, a lot of the words are just major fluff of simple concepts (because they sound so nice~). They would not make good sense in English 😄 今を見つめるその瞳 = those eyes I am looking intently at now (she was below the stage!) = you 水面に映る月 = 鏡花水月 (yupz Aizen's Bankai) = used abstractly to describe something that can be seen but can't be captured. So here's what I thought about the lyrics and translations: あの日君が言った 何気ない言葉に 救われた 「苦手でも、好きなことはある!」 今を見つめるその瞳 こんな自分も 間違いじゃないんだと I was saved by those words you said casually that day "There are things I like even if I am bad at it!" Even for someone like me, I'm not a mistake. 答えなんかない 俺は逃げた 何も決められない 誰かが 傷つくこと 傷つけることが 怖がってたんだ Mr indecisive didn't answer Uta & Hoshimiya because he was scared of being hurt or hurting others. ひらひら 桜舞う並木道 そう君に 出会ったから Ep1 when he first met her. Love letter song 101, reminds her of when you both first met. 水面に映る月に 手を伸ばしているどうしても この音楽で 君が見ている世界を変える Even if I can't achieve it, I'll still do so with all my heart: I'll change the world you see with this music. 溢れ出しそうな この思いは 満月の夜なんて 待っていられない 今君に届け あの星へと This overflowing emotion cannot wait for the full moon night. Now, I want it to reach you, towards that star (= Hoshimiya). The last part got me goosebumps. The last few episodes is about Hoshimiya's novel, where a major scene is of the girl and boy's conversation under the full moon. So at the end of ep9, she confessed to Natsuki subtly, saying that "on a full moon night... I've decided, I will not lose to Uta-chan". He turned it around, saying he will not wait for that full moon to get together, it will be now 😱 It's also why at the end of ep12 when Hoshimiya complained that Natsuki was subtle by confessing using a love song, Natsuki rebutted that Hoshimiya started it 😂 Totally loved the song and the handling of the show at the end ❤️
歌詞サンガツ!🙏 この曲ガチで美しいわ、何回も聴いてもうた❤️ アジア人ワイなりの考察やけど… ・夏樹はep11で星宮に受け入れられたと気づいてこの曲を書いたんやろな ・ep2の卓球の話が「失敗作でも間違いじゃない」に繋がっとる ・ラストの満月と星のくだり鳥肌モンやったわ😱 終盤の演出ほんま最高やった❤️2ちゃん
DifficultFriend2748
I edited in onto my second post, since it got lost in the replies. It's not that good, but it should help with understanding the general meaning of the song. It's the best I can do with my mediocre Japanese skills.
返信に埋もれたから2つ目の投稿に追記した。出来は微妙だけど、曲の大体の意味は分かると思う。自分の日本語力だとこれが限界。普通くん
calcalcalcal
lol yours is not mediocre at all. It's just that Japanese songs are worded more like poems than anything, its way more subject to interpretation than in english. (and trying to translate it makes me realize how bad i am in conveying my thoughts in english lol)
いや、君のは全然平凡じゃないよ。日本の歌詞は詩みたいで解釈の幅が広いだけだな。訳すと自分の英語力も見えてくる。ドライおじ
darkcyde_
Thanks, but can you do the last one?
ありがと!でも最後のやつもお願いできる!?感情くん
Rammelsmartie
I can do the other one too. I'd appreciate it. It's weird, in the credits they attribute the songs to "Mishmash Leftovers," like is it an actual band?
もう片方も我が手でできるぞ。助かるのだ。クレジットで曲が「Mishmash Leftovers」名義なの、実在のバンドなのか?中二病
Standard_Mountain509
I think that's usually what they do for songs made by characters in shows. Like for K Pop Demon Hunters, the songs on YT Music are attributed to either HUNTR/X or Soja Boys. But yeah I definitely want to know what "To The Stars" lyrics were too.
作中キャラの曲って大体そういう扱いだと思う。K Pop Demon HuntersでもYT MusicではHUNTR/XかSoja Boys名義だし。でも“To The Stars”の歌詞は自分も知りたい。普通くん
DifficultFriend2748
原文
Alright, one of the lines gave me some trouble, but I think I got most of it. Even if I mess up some details, I'm pretty confident in the overall meaning. "To The Stars" rough lyrics: "I was saved by those nonchalant words you spoke to me that day" or "The casual/nonchalant words you spoke to me that day saved me" 苦手でも (1)、好きなことはある (2)、今を見つめるその瞳 (3) It reads something like: "Even if I'm not good at it / even if I struggle with things (1), there's something I like / there are things I like (2), those eyes that keep looking at the present (the now) (3). Edit: Could also be something like: "Even if you struggle with things, you have things you love — (and you also have) those eyes that stay focused on the present." "I realised (even) someone like me isn't wrong (or "a mistake"). There's no (right) answer, I ran away — I couldn't decide anything (basically "couldn't make a decision"). I was afraid of being hurt, and of hurting someone (else). Fluttering, fluttering — cherry blossoms drift (lit. "dance") along the tree-lined street (並木道 is a pretty nice word). Because I met you there... (I think it's actually more like "because that's how I met you", but you get the point) Even if I reach out toward the moon reflected on the water's surface (had some trouble with 水面/みなも), I'll change the world you see through this music. These feelings that feel like they'll overflow — for a full moon night... they (or I) can't wait (anymore)." I'll send them to you now — beyond that star(s) / towards that star(s). ("star" is a play on words, since her name has "hoshi") JP: あの日君が言った何気ない言葉に救われた。 苦手でも、好きなことはある、今を見つめるその瞳。 こんな自分も間違いじゃないんだと~ 答えなんかない俺は逃げた、何も決められない 誰かが傷つくこと、傷つけることが怖かったんだ~ ひら~ひら~桜舞う並木道 そう君に出会ったから~~ 水面(みなも)に映る月に手を伸ばしてるとしても この音楽で、君が見ている世界を変える あふれだしそうなこの思いは満月の夜なんて~ 待っていられない、今君にとどけ~あの星へと~ I'm translating from my third language into my second language, so you'll have excuse some of the jank. PS: "Mishmash Leftovers" is their in universe band-name.
歌詞頑張って訳してみたンゴ「あの日君の何気ない言葉に救われた」的な感じや。細部ミスってるかもやけど大意は合ってると思うわ。ワイ第三言語→第二言語やから多少ガバいのは許してな。「あの星へ」は彼女の名前の"星"とかけたダブルミーニングやろな。草2ちゃん
MonteiroMaravilha
Please do the other one
もう片方もお願い。普通くん
Frontier246
Thank you!
ありがとう!wwwwおじ
BusouDrago
Thank you
ありがと〜!ギャル
testthrowawayzz
Just noting that 青 in the context of youth means green in classical Chinese/Japanese as it is referencing new plant growth in spring makes everything green.
青春の「青」って古典中国語/日本語だと“緑”の意味なんだよね。春の新芽で全部緑に…エモい!感情くん
james099877
原文
thank you so much for this, I used your japanese transcript to make a romanji version (that’s how I can follow) with english words under. Sharing this to others as well: Monochrome - Mishmash Leftovers Hon-tō no ki-mo-chi ho-do tsu-ta-e-ra-re-na-i ma-ma The more genuine my feelings are, the harder they are to express. Tai-se-tsu na mo-no ho-do yu-bi o su-ri-nu-ke-ru The more precious something is, the more it slips through my fingers. U-ma-ku wa-ra-e-na-i no wa The reason I can’t smile naturally Ki-ra-wa-re-ta-ku na-i ka-ra is because I don’t want to be hated. Hai-i-ro ni yu-gan-da se-kai A world distorted into shades of gray. Mi-rai mo a-su sa-e Even the future, even tomorrow— Kit-to, kit-to nan-te saying “surely, surely…” Ne-ga-u da-ke ja just wishing alone Na-ni mo ka-wa-ra-na-i won’t change anything. Na-ni mo ka-e-ra-re-na-i Nothing will be changed. I-ma chi-i-sa-ku to-mo Even if I’m small right now, Ip-po ip-po step by step, Ko-ko-ro ga yo-bu hō e to toward the direction my heart calls me, Ji-bun ji-shin o mi-chi-bi-i-te ku I lead myself onward. Ki-mi to mot-to tsu-na-ga-ri-ta-i I want to be closer to you. Mi-ji-me de mo Even if I’m miserable, Kak-kō wa-ru-ku te mo īn da even if I look uncool, that’s okay. Ma-e o mui-ta so-no me ni u-tsu-ru Toward the colors reflected in those eyes looking ahead, Ma-bu-shi su-gi-ru shi-ki-sai e those dazzling colors— Sā, so-no te o no-ba-se! Come on, reach out your hand! Kō-kai wa mō shi-ku na-i I don’t want any more regrets. Mo-no-ku-ro no se-kai to i-ro-a-se-ta hi-bi o This monochrome world and those faded days— Nan-do de mo ka-ki-na-o-shi-te I’ll rewrite them again and again, Ma-ta ke-shi-te wa erasing them, only to rewrite them once more, Ta-do-ri-tsu-i-ta kyō o and the day I’ve finally arrived at, Ka-ke-nu-ke-te yu-ku I’ll race right through it. Fu-ri-ka-e-ru so-ra ga When I look back, Ni-ji-i-ro ni ka-ga-ya-ku the sky shines with rainbow colors. Sō shin-ji-te-ru That’s what I believe. Sō shin-ji-te ku And I’ll keep believing. A-o-i ha-ru~ Blue Spring~ ( Youthful days~ )
この聖典に深く感謝するのだ。我は汝の日本語書き起こしを礎に、ローマ字版+英訳を錬成した。皆にも授けよう。中二病
james099877
原文
I used a transcriber to make one also for "To the stars". Here's the lyrics: A-no hi ki-mi ga it-ta na-ni-ge-na-i ko-to-ba ni su-ku-wa-re-ta That day, I was saved by the casual words you spoke. Ni-ga-te de mo su-ki na ko-to wa a-ru Even if I’m not good at it, there are things I love. I-ma o mi-tsu-me-ru so-no hi-to-mi Those eyes that are fixed on the present. Kon-na ji-bun mo ma-chi-ga-i ja na-in da to They tell me that even someone like me isn’t wrong. Ko-ta-e nan-ka na-i There aren’t any easy answers. O-re wa ni-ge-ta I ran away. Na-ni mo ki-me-ra-re-na-i Unable to decide anything. Da-re-ka ga ki-zu-tsu-ku ko-to Seeing someone get hurt, Ki-zu-tsu-ke-ru ko-to ga ko-wa-kat-ta n da or hurting someone myself—that’s what I was afraid of. Hi-ra hi-ra sa-ku-ra ma-u na-mi-mi-chi Cherry blossoms flutter gently along the winding path. Sō, ki-mi ni de-at-ta ka-ra Because I met you. Mi-na mo mi-u-tsu-ru tsu-ki ni te o no-ba-shi-te i-ru to shi-te mo Even if everyone else is reaching out toward the moon reflected before them, Ko-no on-ga-ku de ki-mi ga mi-te i-ru se-kai o ka-e-ru With this music, I’ll change the world you see. A-fu-re-da-shi-sō na ko-no o-mo-i wa These feelings are about to overflow. Man-ge-tsu no yo-ru nan-te For a full moon night— Mat-te i-ra-re-na-i I can’t wait that long. I-ma ki-mi ni to-do-ke I’ll send them to you right now. A-no ho-shi e to Toward that star. Sharing the transcription below if anyone want's to audit/edit/correct: ♪~ あの日君が言った 何気ない言葉に救われた 苦手でも好きなことはある 今を見つめるその瞳 こんな自分も間違いじゃないんだと 答えなんかない 俺は逃げた 何も決められない 誰かが傷つくこと 傷つけることが怖かったんだ ひらひら桜舞う波き道 そう君に出会ったから 皆も見映る月に手を伸ばしているとしても この音楽で君が見ている世界を変える 溢れ出しそうなこの想いは 満月の夜なんて 待っていられない 今君に届け あの星へと
『To the stars』も文字起こしツールで作ってみた。歌詞はこんな感じ。確認・修正したい人向けに考察くん
Air3nt99
Cheers to you, good sir! I was stressed out with no translation to his third song.
ありがとう、助かった!彼の3曲目の訳がなくてめっちゃモヤモヤしてたんだ。普通くん
Frontier246
"Okay, so we've got this finale where the protagonist is going to sing out these songs summing up his character development and feelings for the Main Heroine. This is like pivotal to the overall story and integral to the climax. Do I have permission to translate and sub it?" "Meh."
「最終回で主人公が成長とメインヒロインへの想いを歌う山場やろ?翻訳して字幕つけてええ?」「うーん、微妙」2ちゃん
Tama47_
Funny thing is that English subs doesn't, but other languages does have.
面白いのが、英語字幕にはないのに他の言語にはあるんだよな…!感情くん
Extreme-Ad-7971
I'm reporting it to Crunchyroll, but having trouble getting a human (actually I supposedly got a human, but I get the feeling I'm talking to a chatbot).
Crunchyrollに報告しておるが、人間に繋がらぬでござる。一応人間らしき者は出たが、どうにもチャットボット相手の気がするでござる。武士
kittycatparadox
原文
Right!? Especially when the lyrics are a driving force in the plot. Like knowing the lyrics is what led you to understand what was happening in the scenes they were showing. It was just showing a bunch of flashbacks with lyrics over the top that I couldn’t understand. So frustrating…. 😒 I watched a YouTube video that was saying Crunchyroll has been moving away from human translations to a company using AI translations. I wonder if that’s a factor as well maybe AI didn’t think to translate the songs and the Crunchyroll teams just didn’t catch it?
それな!? 歌詞が物語理解の鍵なのに訳されないの本当イラつく。CrunchyrollのAI翻訳移行が原因かもね。普通くん
murilo087
They're not using AI. Usually it depends on several factors whether songs get translated or not, especially licensing restrictions.
AIは使ってないよ。曲の翻訳は、特にライセンス制限とか色んな要因次第なんだよね。感情くん
DugACCat
Had the same thought and wondered about it as this seems to happen a lot with multiple shows I’ve seen. Is there some reason why it isn’t the norm to translate and sub songs? I know it has also happened before but that feels like the exception to me. Is there added difficulty in song translation that makes most give it the pass?
同じこと思ってた。いろんな作品でよくあるけど、曲を訳して字幕にするのが普通じゃない理由ってあるのかな?歌詞翻訳って難しくて見送られがちなの?普通くん
Frontier246
From my understanding it's usually a licensing/time issue.
自分の理解だと、だいたいライセンスとか時間の問題っぽい…!感情くん
Xythar
Song translations almost always have to be approved by the license holders, so if they aren't able to get that approval by the time the episode airs, the songs can't be added until later (if at all).
歌詞翻訳はたいてい権利者の承認が要る。放送までに取れないと、曲は後から追加、下手すると追加なしだろうな。ドライおじ
DugACCat
That makes sense, I hadn’t considered there to be added licensing and approval complications with songs.
確かに…曲だとライセンスや承認の面倒が増えるのか。そこまで考えてなかったわ。感情くん
anim8rjb
would have been funny if they made them sound as crappy as how most high school bands are, instead of how good most high school bands think they sound.
高校バンドが思ってる「俺ら上手い」音じゃなく、現実みたいにクソ下手にしてたら草だったのにな。2ちゃん
RabbitOld
Skill-wise, I don’t mind if they pull off a miracle, but when it comes to soundstage and mixing, I completely agree with you—crappy sound is a must.
技術面は奇跡起こしてもいいけど、音場とミックスは完全同意!クソ音質じゃなきゃ無理ッ!感情くん
ptd163
Yeah. That kind of thing makes me think it's unlikely to get another season. These songs are climax of the series and the summation of the protag's development and what his feels for the Main Heroine and they couldn't bother to subtitle them.
せやな。ああいうの見ると2期なさそうやわ。この曲、山場で主人公の成長とメインヒロインへの想いの総まとめなのに字幕なしとか…2ちゃん
CreaMaxo
原文
The irony is that, on CR, the songs are subbed in most non-EN language... and even more ironic is that the first of the 3 songs is subbed in English in OTHER languages than English. (It's subbed in English when set to French and, from another's comment, German at least). Then Monochrome and Upon the Stars is subbed in most non-EN languages. Yeah. There are more Quality control from independant indie fan subs than there are from 1.8 Billions USD companies.
皮肉だよね、CRは英語以外だと曲字幕が大体あるし、英語字幕すら仏/独設定なら出る。18億ドル企業より個人ファンサブの方が品質普通くん
MalteCL
Where did you all watched it? I watched it on the android TV App and all three songs had sub. The first song with english sub and the other two with my standard german sub. Only the in- and outro hadn't sub.
みんなどこで見たん?ワイはAndroid TVアプリで見たけど、3曲全部字幕あったわ。1曲目は英語、他2曲はドイツ語。OP/EDだけ字幕なし。2ちゃん
CreaMaxo
Seems like the subs weren't properly submitted (at least with CR which isn't surprising). The songs has subs in many languages, but none when the subs are set to English.
字幕がちゃんと提出されてなかったっぽい(少なくともCRは。まあ驚かないけど)。曲は多言語字幕あるのに英語設定だと出ない。普通くん
alan_14
I always watch with EN sub, even though CR provide subs for my country's language. Apparently the lyrics didn't get translated in EN sub, which is unfortunate.
いつも英字幕で見てる。CRは自国語字幕もあるけどね。英字幕だと歌詞が訳されてないっぽい…残念すぎるッ。感情くん
connor_s_swim
The german sub has all three of them subned in english
ドイツ語字幕だと、3人とも英語で字幕ついてるね普通くん
tottoro47
Once again proving that they're the goats of CR subs
またしてもCR字幕界のGOATって証明してて草2ちゃん
testthrowawayzz
The first song sounded like it's supposed to be in English, but I have no idea what he's saying because of the accent and there's no subtitles.
最初の曲、英語っぽいんだけど、訛りが強いし字幕もないから何言ってるのか全然わからなかった。普通くん
Extreme-Ad-7971
They subbed it in pretty much all of the other languages. Seems like the English language subber/GenAI flaked out and thought "oh it's just a song it's not important". I've reported it to Crunchyroll (having trouble getting a human. Actually I supposedly got a human but I think it might be a chatbot).
他言語はほぼ字幕あるのに英語字幕担当/GenAIがサボったっぽい。「ただの歌やろ」扱いかよ。Crunchyrollに報告したけどbot臭いンゴ。2ちゃん
Extreme-Ad-7971
原文
CR: Thanks to your detective skills we have been able to notify our team about this matter. This will be reviewed as soon as possible, and once the content is fixed it will automatically be updated. CR: Thanks a million for your patience and understanding! 🙂 me: About how long do you think it'll take? There's a bit of activity on social media on this, so wanted to give them an estimate. CR: I have highlighted the issue as clearly as possible.. CR: We don't have an exact timeframe from our content team just yet, but please rest assured that we are actively working on it!
CR「調査ありがとう。チームに共有済みで、修正後は自動更新されます🙂」 自分「SNSで話題だけど、どれくらい?」 CR「期限未定ですが対応中です」普通くん
ResponsibleTop8663
Crunchyroll already put subtitles.
Crunchyrollもう字幕つけてるじゃん!ギャル
Nanoha61
Wow... I didn't expect that would be the ending, i wish i didn't see it, i am now more sad than happy.
うわ…あの終わり方は予想してなかった。見なきゃよかった…今、嬉しいより悲しすぎる。感情くん
Frontier246
Natsuki and Hikari are finally together! Also Miori is going out with Reita because she can't face the fact that she's in love with Natsuki and is throwing herself into a relationship she's not emotionally invested in. At least TatsuyaxUta might happen.
NatsukiとHikariがついに付き合った!MioriはNatsuki好きなの認められず、Reitaと本気じゃない恋愛してる感じ。TatsuyaxUtaはあるかも。普通くん
Realistic_Rent4407
Hikari is the dream of MC's life. The story means nothing if they didn't end up together. I feel bad for uta But miori I think she deserves that L , in all of episodes and she is talking and blabling about reita kun, reita this reita that, now get that reita
HikariはMCの人生の夢やろ。一緒にならんかったら話の意味ないわ。utaは可哀想。でもmioriは負けて当然、ずっとreita kun連呼してたんやしreita貰っとけw2ちゃん
Radioactive24
Hikari is the dream of MC's life. The story means nothing if they didn't end up together. Yeah, and my guess is now the plot twist is going to be that it's not going to work out how he thought it would. I'd be shocked if they're just gonna let the relationship actually work out.
Hikariは主人公にとって人生の夢だし、結ばれないなら物語の意味ないよね。でも思った通りにいかない展開になりそう。上手くいったら逆に驚く。普通くん
parth_ZZZ
That's correct but I didn't expect thet ending at all Just expected that natxu x hikari will happen but miori's emotional breakdown made me sad.
それはそうだけど、あの結末は全然予想外… natxu×hikariになると思ってたのに、mioriの感情崩壊が悲しすぎて無理、泣いた。感情くん
More-Sign570
ko phải miori thích reita mà chỉ hẹn hò giả với reita để nam chính yên tâm đến hikari
MioriがReitaを好きなわけじゃなく、主人公が安心してHikariに向かえるようにReitaと偽装交際してるだけ。普通くん
Realistic_Rent4407
and that backfires miori in the end, she reap what she sows
で、結局それがMioriに跳ね返るんだよね。自業自得ってやつじゃん!ギャル
PeaceAlien
I mean, there were signs of it, but pretty minor throughout the show. Most shows would have probably ignored it for the main pair. If anything, it shows there is more to the story, which is what anime usually try to sell the source material for.
まあ兆候はあったけど、作中ではかなり薄めだったね。普通ならメイン組優先でスルーしそう。むしろ原作の続きが気になる作りだと思う。普通くん
ruly_unruly_ruly48
Reita kinda hinted at it as well I think he knows that miori doesn't really like him as much. Lots of signs were there early on but the last few episodes made me kinda forgot about miori especially how they dragged out utas scenes
Reitaも示唆してたし、mioriの好意が薄いと察してる考察ができる。序盤から伏線はあったけど、uta描写が長くてmiori忘れかけた。考察くん
PeaceAlien
Last time we saw any signs was probably when Uta snuck that kiss. But since it's been so long I figured the anime would ignore it.
最後にそれっぽい兆し見たの、たぶんUtaがこっそりキスした時じゃん?でも昔すぎてアニメはスルーすると思ってたわ笑ギャル
Live_Bag918
Reita lo sabe claramente, es muy observador y cuando la vió decaída la apoyó. La incógnita es ¿por qué sale con ella sabiendo sus sentimientos? No parece ser un optimista, tal vez es una manera de satisfacer su autodesprecio.
Reitaは明らかに気づいてるね。観察力あるし、落ち込んでた時も支えてた。謎なのは、気持ちを知っててなぜ付き合うのか。自己嫌悪を満たすためかも。普通くん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
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すまん、コメント削除や。スレ上部のSource Material Corner案件。ネタバレじゃなく原作話を外でしてたからやで。質問は返信/modmail/metaへ。2ちゃん
Prestigious-Visit677
Fr I did want Natsuki and Hikari to end up together at the beginning but now that they did i dont feel very happy. Now I wish that Natsuki and Miori would be together 🥺 It broke my heart seein her cry🥺
正直、最初はNatsukiとHikariにくっついてほしかったけど、今はあまり嬉しくない。NatsukiとMioriが一緒になってほしい🥺 泣いてるの見て心折れた🥺普通くん
Realistic_Rent4407
Miori brought this on herself, she had choices to win him, but she chose to push him away, it's her fault
Mioriの自業自得やろ。勝ち筋はあったのに自分で突き放したんやから、完全にMioriのせいや。2ちゃん
Prestigious-Visit677
I know But im still sad though🥺💔
わかってるけど、それでもまだ悲しいんだよね🥺💔普通くん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
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HTC864
Disagree. He was dead set on his "dream" so it was always going to end one way and Hikari knew it.
反対だな。彼は自分の「夢」に完全に固執してたから、結末は一つしかなくて、Hikariも分かってたんだと思う。普通くん
More-Sign570
ko phải miori ko muốn bởi vì cô ấy bt rằng natsuki đã thích hikari rồi
Mioriが嫌ってるわけじゃない…NatsukiがもうHikariを好きって知ってるからなんだよ、しんどい…感情くん
PuzzleheadedCow9179
Pensez-vous qu’il y aura une suite ?
続編あると思う?普通くん
Prestigious-Visit677
Dont think so🫠
そうは思わないかも〜🫠ギャル
PM_ME_AWESOME_SONGS
I didn't remember the last time a slice of life anime had such a cliffhanger in the last episode.
日常系アニメで最終話にこんな引きかますの、いつ以来や…思い出せんわ。2ちゃん
recca01982
cliffhanger? Feels pretty cut and dry to me. In fact, if there is a season 2,... I probably won't watch it. The entire series after episode 6 started to just piss me off. It went from slice of life to ntr.
クリフハンガー?自分には普通に決着ついてるように見えた。2期があっても多分見ない。6話以降ずっとイライラした。日常系からNTRになった感じ。普通くん
makillah
I thought there’s one more episode
え、あと1話あると思ってたんだけど!ギャル
thripl3thr3at815
Usually it is only 12 episodes
だいたい12話しかないんよな2ちゃん
parth_ZZZ
I am also feeling the same. But miori game us the hind at the episode where uta kissed natau. But now I am waiting for the second season to see what will happen And if some own know what is the manga of the anime please lete know
同じ気持ち。utaがnatauにキスした回で、mioriがヒントを出してたという考察ができる。2期が待ち遠しい。原作漫画を知ってる人は教えて。考察くん
gotyournose321
Did anyone notice Miori hesitate when Reita confessed? I have a feeling she might like Natsuki.
Reitaが告白した時、Mioriがためらってたの気づいた?彼女、Natsukiのこと好きかもって気がする。普通くん
Frontier246
I think you could also tell that she was more resigned in accepting the confession than overjoyed that her long-time crush finally asked her out. She was crying and looking at a picture of them together as kids while realizing Hikari had stolen her place by his side...she was the Childhood Friend Losing Heroine after all.
告白を受けたのも歓喜より諦めに見えた。写真を見て、Hikariに隣を奪われたと悟る…幼なじみ負けヒロインの構図だな。考察くん
darkcyde_
Childhood Friend Losing Heroine This is the way.
幼なじみ負けヒロイン、これこそ王道だね。普通くん
testthrowawayzz
Some music for her to listen to on the way to Toyohashi:
豊橋へ向かう途中で彼女に聴いてほしい曲、これッ!感情くん
GyozaDrift
Why did you leave out the thi- oh, never mind.
なんで3つ目抜いたのって…あ、やっぱなんでもないわ笑ギャル
NefariousnessOk4502
This is the way
これが正解だね普通くん
Windlessfox3080
Bro's not mando
てかこの人マンドじゃないじゃん笑ギャル
Chemical_Ad4657
原文
I wonder what pushed her over the edge with Natsuki? Miori doesn't learn about Natsuki's crush on Hikari until eps 3 EARLIEST (eps 4 definitely). But she had announced her crush on Reita all the way since eps 1. Infact, the coop strat was HER idea. So it's not like she's ALWAYS been conflicted about Natsuki. Then of course Miori had an arc and it's suggested that somehow Miori falls for Natsu here(?) Seeing Uta kiss Natsu at the summer festival probably just added fuel to her denial. But then we've never really seen Miori try after then. It's just that with this arc, it makes more sense for the denial to just fade (since nothing happens between the two after). If her feelings were such a big deal, I reckon at least something had to have happened in between to explain this. (A possible explanation I've thought up is probably that Miori fell deeper after having gone home together with Natsu by train back home from school almost everyday. But that warrants a flash back and monologue from Miori to justify more precisely). Another thing this does tell us is that assuming Miori's conflict starts immediately after her arc wraps up, then Miori probably swapped with Serika not just to sit next to Reita, but to also deliberately avoid sitting across Natsu (and with Hikari and Uta for that matter sround)
ミオリがナツキに対して一線を越えたキッカケが気になる。ミオリは1話からレイタへの好意を公言してたし、協力作戦もミオリの案だから、最初からナツキに葛藤してたわけじゃない。夏祭りでウタがナツにキスしたのが否定感情を煽っただけとも取れる。ただその後ミオリが動く描写はないから、この展開なら否定感情が自然に消える方が筋が通るという考察ができる。考察くん
jadedlonewolf89
原文
It was sort of hinted at in the first episode when they meet up at the park. Most wouldn’t show that kind of interest or care for someone they didn’t like, and it was him who avoided her in middle school. This is partially her fault for not saying anything, not that I can blame her. Not easy to tell someone that you’re interested in them, when you know you’ve got no chance. The ending makes me think there’s missing background to their childhood.
1話の公園で会う場面で少し匂わせてたね。嫌いな相手をあそこまで気にかけないし。彼女にも少し非はあるけど、勝ち目ないと思ったら言えないよな。ラスト的に幼少期の背景まだありそう。普通くん
Chemical_Ad4657
原文
Sure you can she had some interest when they met again in the park. But idt there's anything that would make her feel bad for making a move / that she didn't have a chance. Anyway, she declares her Reita interest in E1. Then in E2, it was HER idea that Natsu helps her get Reita and she helps him find a girlfriend. So I feel like all of the conflict only begins stirring up after her arc wraps up. So while their childhood background would probably be one half of the story (probably what they were like before they became distant) I do think how Natsu made her feel during her arc and also how she reacted to and since Uta are very important (if not more important) to understand the full story as well.
公園で再会した時点で脈はあったやろ。でもE1でReita好き宣言、E2でNatsuに協力提案したの彼女やし、揉めるのは彼2ちゃん
Orochidude
原文
It's been apparent to me for a good portion of the second half of this show, particularly after her "arc" concluded, that she was focusing on Natsuki more and wasn't as invested in getting with Reita anymore. That said, it was admittedly on the down-low since they were largely focusing on Uta and Hikari's love rivalry, so it's understandable to not fully catch on until now. But yeah, the final scene should make that abundantly obvious to everyone watching at this point.
後半、特に彼女の話が終わってから、ReitaよりNatsukiを意識してたよね。UtaとHikari中心で目立たなかったけど、最後で完全に分かった。普通くん
runevault
I thought the last scene made that undeniable. She's pushing him away because it will hurt too much to see him with another girl.
最後のシーンで確定だと思ったわw 他の子といる彼を見るのが辛すぎるから、彼を遠ざけてるんだな笑wwwおじ
ShinobiMedic
Hopefully it leads to a season 2 maybe?
これでseason 2につながってくれたら最高じゃん?ワンチャンあるかな!?ギャル
mercer546707
Even if there is a second season I doubt we would get to volume 9 & 10 where some of the plot points begin to pay off.
2期があっても、伏線が回収され始める9〜10巻まで行くかは怪しいと思う。普通くん
AdolescentGamer
原文
Darn, with an ending like that, it's clear that this show wants to tell a more complex story past the MC and primary love interest confessing to each other and ending together. However, I can tell the anime was a bit rushed and may have had to skip important scenes or plotlines that would set up a season 2. I feel like the show didn't dedicate enough time to explore/convey Miori's conflicted feelings towards Natsuki, no doubt due to time constraints... to it's detriment. I didn't even pick up on Miori's feelings, the show had to tell me at the confusing end scene when Miori called Natsuki in tears. It feels like [season 1 of] the show told a version of the story that could fit the scope of the air time and still feel concluded, but then still not giving up on telling the untold parts of the story they had filter out or chose to brush over in the process of making [season 1 of] the show. Which is why the end scene with Miori and Natsuki feels so 'out of left-field'.
この終わり方、告白後も描く気満々やん。でも急ぎすぎで2期用の大事な場面飛ばした感。Mioriの泣き電話も唐突すぎたわ。2ちゃん
Over_Wave_213
same here
それな!うちも同じ!ギャル
ptd163
I noticed that too. There were hints throughout the series that she's setting for Reita. Her crying while looking at that pic of her and Natsuki basically confirmed it for people not really clued into it.
俺もそれ気づいたわ。シリーズ通して彼女が灰原に想いを寄せてる伏線が散りばめられてたんだよな。夏樹との写真を見て泣くシーンで、気づいてなかった人にもほぼ確定した描写と言える。考察くん
testthrowawayzz
Yeah, that's not the reaction of someone not in love with the other person
いやそれ、相手に恋してない人の反応じゃないって…!ニヤけるッ!感情くん
MadCybertist
You think? I’m pretty sure that’s the big bomb drop at the very end. She definitely likes him and just accepted the confession, with hesitation.
そう思う?あれは最後の大爆弾だと思う。彼女は確実に彼が好きで、迷いながらも告白を受け入れたんだよ。普通くん
Live_Bag918
Reita ya lo sabía y desde el arco del equipo de basquetbol se lo dijo, (solo que nuestro MC no es muy listo). Incluso cuando el MC menciona quien le gusta, Reita le insinúa que el va a ir por Miori (dejando en claro que sabe que si no la escoge el va por ella).
Reitaは前から気づいていて、バスケ部編の時点で示唆してた。MCが鈍いだけ。Mioriに行くぞって牽制も伏線だった。考察くん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
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すまん、コメント削除したで。原作・スピンオフ・未アニメ化内容や比較は上のSource Material Cornerで頼む。ネタバレ理由ちゃうで。2ちゃん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
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すみません、コメントは削除されました。未アニメ化内容のネタバレはSource Material Cornerでタグ必須です。違反は最低8日停止です。普通くん
D3k4s
原文
I feel like this series had a lot of potential. Unfortunately a lot of non sense happened and things looked rushed. Up until the final moments of the episode. I don't know I'm kinda disappointed in a way. Not that i don't think that it had good points. But it could have been a great one instead of a decent one. Still I'd like to know where the series is heading, but i kinda doubt we will have a second season. We'll see!
このシリーズ、ポテンシャルは高かったと考察できる。ただ不自然な展開が多く最終盤まで急ぎ足。良い点もあるが、傑作になれたはずが良作止まりで残念。続きは気になるが2期は厳しそう。考察くん
Frontier246
I feel like there were some characters during the concert scene (like the guy with blonde hair) and the Miori scene at the end were basically screaming "READ THE LIGHT NOVEL!" or tease a season 2 that may never be.
ライブの金髪のやつとか最後のMioriのシーン、完全に「ラノベ読め!」って感じだったな。来ないかもな2期の匂わせにも見える。普通くん
offdagrid774_
Which blonde guy in the crowd are you talking about? I must’ve missed that
群衆の中のどの金髪男子のこと言ってるの?うち見逃したっぽいわ笑ギャル
PM_ME_AWESOME_SONGS
I think the one on the right around 12:52. I saw him and thought he was weirdly detailed to just be a background character.
12:52あたりの右のやつだと思う。背景キャラにしては妙に描き込まれてるなって思った。普通くん
ResponsibleTop8663
There is also that girl that blushes while the bassist is doing his intro solo
あと、ベーシストがイントロソロしてる時に赤面してるあの子もいるんだよな…!感情くん
faeyt
that part screamed to me "he's got a potential love interest in the future"
あの場面、完全に「将来こいつ恋愛相手になるやろ」って言ってたわ2ちゃん
scratchfury
I found the switch to flowing animation while they were singing and playing a bit odd.
歌って演奏してる時に急にヌルヌル動く作画に切り替わったの、ちょい違和感あったんだけど笑ギャル
DugACCat
Agreed. I don’t normally dwell on such things and understand some things are difficult to animate. But the style jump felt rather jarring.
同意。普段はこういうの気にしないし、作画が難しい部分も分かるけど、絵柄の変化はかなり違和感あった。普通くん