HolyDragSwd2500
Senku and Xeno voted for 2 way rocket Both believed in Chrome 😭
千空とゼノが二人でロケットに賛成票を入れたのはな。どちらもクロムを信じてたんだなあ。まあ予想通りだが、良い話だ。ドライおじ
LikeAnAssistant
This anime always gets me choked up like no other when it comes to the human moments.
このアニメの人間ドラマの部分はいつも他の作品よりグッとくるんだよな。普通くん
_BruH_MoMent69
Istg there's no series which gets me smiling and emotional like this.
ふむ…この世に存在する全ての物語の中でも、我が心をこれほどまでに高揚させ、涙を誘うものは他にないのだ。中二病
Quigs4494
Ive realized one of the things I love about this series is that there isnt really any inner group conflict. There's tribe vs tribe but once people are on the same team they just work together towards it instead of creating conflict for drama
このシリーズの好きなところの一つに気づいたんだけど、仲間内での対立がほとんどないんだよね。部族同士の戦いはあるけど、同じチームになったらみんなで協力して目標に向かうだけで、わざわざドラマのために揉めたりしないんだ。それがいいな。普通くん
Inner-Plankton5942
I thought that having no conflicts between each other since they are basically one group and they will make this boring, but damn episodes like this remind me why this is such a great show.
「同じグループだから争いもなくて退屈になるかと思ってたけど、こういうエピソード見るとやっぱこの作品めっちゃ最高だなって思うわ。しんどいけど優勝すぎるッ!」感情くん
Quigs4494
The current opening reminds me of this fact with all the characters interacting and then the high fiving.
今のOP見てるとキャラ同士の絡みとかハイタッチのシーンでまさにそれ思い出すわwwwwおじ
BeefPorkChicken
Stories usually fall under man vs man, man vs self, and this case man vs nature so there's still lots of ways to be compelling.
確かに。物語って普通は人vs人とか人vs自分だけど、これは人vs自然だからまだまだ面白くできる要素がたくさんあるよね。普通くん
GaimeGuy
Man vs why man
いやマジでなんで男ってそうなるの!?笑ギャル
Hot-Log6283
I actually thought everyone was going to vote not just the 10 of them, I thought that was the reason why they got everyone into the "Grand" meeting.
確かに全員に投票させると思ってたわ。だからわざわざ「グランド」会議に全員集めたのかと思ったよ。普通くん
Mr_Zaroc
Also writing all that code for a 10 people vote is just funny They could have easily done that with paper
まあ10人投票のためにコード書くなんて笑っちゃうよな。紙で十分だろ。ドライおじ
DaiyaCanBrowse
Sai did it for the love of the game
サイはゲームを愛してやったんだな普通くん
Mr_Zaroc
Excuse me sir, democracy is not a game
おいおいおっさん、民主主義をゲーム感覚で語るなよ2ちゃん
PencilgonGiveIt2Ya
Suika crying over when they found Why-man sent me straight to hell.. ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽ Don't cry bb gorl, it gon be alwright
やばくね!?Why-man見つけたときのスイカの泣き顔まじで地獄すぎたんだけど笑
泣かないでベイビーガール、大丈夫だからね!( ༎ຶ ༎ຶ )ギャル
RedHotChiliCrab
They need to stop making Suika cry. My heart can only take so much
某、スイカが泣くのを見るたびに心が耐え難いのでござる。これ以上は拙者の心臓が持たぬ故、どうか泣かせるのをやめて欲しいと願うばかりであるな。武士
Mundology
Suika must be protected at all costs
スイカちゃんマジで守らなきゃやばくね!?絶対守るべき存在じゃん!!ギャル
GaimeGuy
monkey paw: Wish granted *petrifies suika*
猿の手:願い叶えてやろう *スイカを石化させる* でござる……。武士
one-eyed-02
Dude her VA is amazing, completely different tone than her as a child
彼女の声優さんマジで凄すぎるッ!子供の頃とは全然声色違うんだもん、エモすぎて泣いた感情くん
BunnyGacha_
😭😭😭💢💢
涙止まらんし怒りも込み上げてくるわ😭😭😭💢💢普通くん
PhantomWolf83
The way time passes in Dr. Stone has always seemed wonky to me, but it's probably gotten the most unbelievable it's been in this episode. I've learned that it's just better to switch off your thinking and reasoning and enjoy the show.
確かにDr.STONEにおける時間経過の描写は、今までも奇妙に感じることはあったが、今週のエピソードで最も非現実的になったと言える。これはもう、思考や論理をオフにして純粋に作品を楽しむ方が賢明だという考察ができるな。考察くん
discuss-not-concuss
Yo casually mentioning years while nothing changes is not how I imagine time passing switch off your thinking and reasoning they had to buff Chrome’s contribution, else reviving engineers would resolve 90% of their issues
何年も経つのに何も変わらないって感覚は、時間経過のイメージと違うな。思考や理屈は一旦オフにしないと。クロムの貢献度を盛らないと、エンジニア復活させれば問題の90%は解決しちゃうからね。普通くん
Yukihira22
I thought they would revive the world’s top rocket scientists and engineers across the globe, as it seems the most reasonable thing to do to speed up engineering. I thought the scene where they brought in boats from other countries was showing this but I guess not.
確かに、合理的に考えると世界中のトップクラスのロケット科学者や技術者を復活させるのが最適解だよな。各国から船を集めたシーンはその布石かと思ったけど、違ったみたいだ。制作陣はあえて別のアプローチを取ったんだろうな。考察くん
ebonyphoenix
To be fair it’s not really the theoretical science that they are struggling with now. It’s more the manufacturing that’s the big hurdle.
確かに、今は理論的な科学より製造プロセスが大きな壁になってるんだよね。普通くん
Mundology
Striking the balance between research and development and manufacturing capacity is a conundrum that even modern countries find difficult.
研究と開発、製造能力のバランスを取るのは現代の国でも難しいってのをドラマで見せられたわ。ガチで草生えるわwww2ちゃん
allied_master
If they woke up engineers then they cant hype senku and xeno
確かにエンジニアが目覚めたら、千空やゼノを過剰に持ち上げられなくなるのはわかるな普通くん
Bakatora34
They basically get Xeno and call it enough for the rocket.
やばくね!?ゼノ捕まえてロケット完成ってことで終わらせるのまじかよ笑ギャル
Roeclean
Honestly, it would probably be harder if they had more rocket scientists putting their opinion in nearly every step of the way. Making things take even longer, or even worse, the other scientist gets cocky and messes up stuff behind their back thinking they know better.
正直、ロケット科学者みたいな専門家が増えて、あれこれ口出ししてきた方がむしろややこしくなってたかもね。作業がさらに長引くか、最悪の場合、他の科学者が自分が正しいと思い込んで陰で勝手にやらかしてたかも。普通くん
hanmkim
More engineers do not typically make projects go faster.
「エンジニア増やしてもプロジェクトが速くなるとは限らないんだよなw」
(同意・納得のニュアンスで)wwwおじ
Quigs4494
原文
I think they were more concerned with reviving manpower and making sure there's enough supplies for everyone that is revived. Each area they revive is for a specific resource. Between Senku and Xeno they already got the rocket covered(plus i think they both have the ego of "This is our rocket and achievement from before the stone age"). We also dont know how much revival fluid they have. The author doesn't really say unless it's a plot point.
ワイの見解やけど、彼らはとにかく復活させる人員と物資の確保が最優先やったんやろな。復活させたエリアごとに資源割り当ててる感じやし。千空とゼノの間でロケットはもう完成してるし(つーか両者とも「これが俺たちの岩石時代以前からのロケットや」ってエゴがあるんやろうな)。復活液の量もわからんし、作者も都合上しか明かさんやろ。2ちゃん
Roeclean
Eh, revival fluid isn't really a problem, since Senku already has the materials needed to make it indefinetly.
確かに、復活液はもう問題ないよね。千空が無限に作れる材料をすでに持ってるし。普通くん
Keeeey
I just wish these characters would get new outfits at some point. They can build rockets, tvs and computers, but still live in wooden shacks, wearing the same rags as well as these weird stone/cloth shoes since the start of the show. Its been years, get some flippin drip going.
確かに衣装デザインの変化が少ないのは気になるポイントだよな。ロケットやテレビを作れる技術力があるなら、そろそろ新しい服や靴くらい開発しても良さそうなものだ。製作陣は「原始的な生活感を保つ」という意図で固定している可能性が高いが、視聴者的にはキャラの成長や時代の進歩を衣装で可視化してほしいという考察ができる。考察くん
FakhirRee
They need to age characters too, the show started with main cast in their teens (16-17 years old) and now they are in their tweenties (not counting the time they were stoned in the previous cour) but they look the same.
せやな、キャラも年取らせろよな。最初は10代(16〜17歳)やったのに今や20代やろ(前クールの石化期間除いても)。なのに見た目変わらんの草2ちゃん
EXusiai99
My headcanon is that petrification also fucks up your aging process. Suika grew up normally because she never got hit.
俺の中で、石化は老化プロセスもめちゃくちゃにするって設定にしてる。スイカは石化してないから普通に成長したんだと思う。普通くん
Ayvian
Though she was hit. She stood at the bottom of the building last season until sound waves cracked the Revival fluid.
え、まじで!?あの子、ぶっ飛ばされたのにビルの下に立ち続けて、音波で復活液が割れるまで耐えたんだけど!やばすぎじゃない!?笑ギャル
EXusiai99
Yeah you right scrap that
確かに、それはやめとくわ普通くん
Jacob-C
You don't necessarily have to scrap it. The petrification might not stop the body from growing but it's possible that it stops other signs of aging. One would still go through puberty but have their youth preserved at it's "peak".
いや、別に廃棄する必要なくね?石化で成長止まらなくても、老化の他の兆候は止まるかもしれんやん。思春期は迎えるけど、若さが「ピーク」で保存されるって可能性もあるンゴwww2ちゃん
Sorwest
I love my baby-faced 30 year old protagonist and company that seemingly get more baby-faced as they age
顔が童顔の30歳主人公とその仲間たち、歳を重ねるごとにますます童顔になってる気がするのが好きだわ普通くん
Ree_For_Thee
A timeskip would've worked. This stuff would've taken decades. With a timeskip they could simply state that "Now there's 400 million people, mostly professionals in their various fields, alive" aaaand so on. Sure, re-design on everyone, buuut just make it lazy and add some eye-wrinkles lol.
なるほど、タイムスキップを入れるのも一つの手だったかもしれないな。確かに現実的な時間軸で考えれば、ここまでの発展には数十年単位が必要だ。タイムスキップを挟めば「現在の人口は4億人、大半が各分野のプロフェッショナルだ」と簡潔に説明できる。キャラのデザイン変更は必要だが、目尻にシワを加える程度で済ませられるという考察は面白い。ただ、Dr.STONEの魅力は科学のプロセスを逐一描く点にあるから、あえて時を飛ばさずに丁寧に積み上げた制作陣の意図も理解できる。考察くん
Roeclean
I feel like your including R & D though, since its pretty obvious that Senku and Dr.Xenu are 2 of the smartest people ever, and are able to quickly do any needed R&D due to how fast they were able to test the rockets.
確かに研究開発も含まれてると思う。千空とDr.ゼノは人類史上トップクラスの頭脳だし、ロケットのテストがあれだけ速くできたことからも、必要なR&Dはすぐにこなせるんだろうね。普通くん
Ree_For_Thee
原文
Even Space X, with it's fully functional global supply chain, that according to science is "currently too large and complex to understand", can't produce rockets at the rate this show/manga did. 😉 It started out fairly believable, but I think the author was too eager to show stuff that wasn't remotely possible, so it definitely ended up a sci-fi mess. Season 1-2 were great tho. Will rewatch (but likely not past Dr. Xenu).
SpaceXですら、完全に機能するグローバルサプライチェーンを持ちながら「現在は大きすぎて複雑すぎて理解できない」と科学が言う中で、このアニメや漫画が描くペースでロケットを生産できていないんだよな😉 最初はそれなりに信憑性があったけど、作者があまりにも非現実的な要素を見せたがり過ぎて、結局はSFのごちゃ混ぜ状態になったと思う。でも第1期・第2期は素晴らしかった。また見直すつもりだけど、おそらくDr.Xenu以降は見ないかな。考察くん
Prplehuskie13
I think it would be much better if we saw character designs change/aged up. Guys were 16 when this all started and atleast half a decade of aging has occurred since then, yet do not look any different from when they were teenagers.
せやな、キャラデザ変わらんの気になるわ。みんな16歳からスタートして5年くらい経ってんのに、全然老けて見えへんやん。ワイ的にはもっと成長した姿見たかったンゴwww2ちゃん
Eilrlys
True, the only character design change we saw was Suika, but it would be cool (and much more realistic) to see other characters growing up, to see the passage of time
確かに、我々が目にした変化はスイカのみ。だがな、他の者たちも成長し、時という不可避の流れをその身に刻む姿を見るのは、さながら運命の壮大な叙事詩を目の当たりにするが如く、実に興味深いのだ。中二病
FakhirRee
Yeah, for good chunk of the story it was justified as they now have workforce but no amount of workforce can do stuff they are doing this quickly in stone age.
確かに、ストーリーの大部分では労働力が増えたって理由で説明されてたけど、いくら人手があっても石器時代にあんなに早く物事を進めるのは無理があるよね。普通くん
unnamed_elder_entity
原文
I had this same issue with failed launch after failed launch. I'm watching through my screen at the pad on this TINY island. And it's like, don't they need a remote team to construct and then SHIP parts to the isle? Much less assemble it all. With a handful of people doing the raw material extraction and then one really old guy hammering out all the frames. This is decades of work in progress. It's been bad like that for a while now. So just switch it off, right? WEll, what about Whyman? They first launched an exploratory satellite up. Then launch after launch with large catastrophic explosions. You mean to tell me Whyman is just sitting there watching it all and doesn't give a shit? Why not drop ONE Medusa device at the island. Or heck, go for another 16000 radius burst and get em all. The "enemy" just sits idle for centuries watching all this shit go down?
打ち上げ失敗連発で草も生えんわ。あのちっせぇ島でパッド見ながら作業してるだけやん。どう考えても遠隔地でパーツ組み立ててから島に輸送するチーム要るやろ。つーか組み立てるだけでもそうや。材料採掘してる数人と、フレーム叩いてるクソジジイ一人で何十年もかかる作業やぞ。もうとっくに切って良いレベルやん。
でもホワイマンはどうなん?まず探査衛星打ち上げて、その後何度も大爆発起こしてるやん。ホワイマンはそれをただ眺めてて何もしないってマジ?メデューサ一個島に落とせば済むやろ。つーか半径16000の範囲攻撃で一網打尽にしろや。敵が何世紀もボーッと見てるだけってガチで意味わからんわ。2ちゃん
maubises
Now they're gonna make internet, is it gonna be called Network or Stonework
「ネットワーク」か「ストーンワーク」になるのかな。普通くん
RelativeMundane9045
Senkunet would fit their current naming scheme.
せやな、Senkunetって今の命名規則にピッタリやんwww2ちゃん
nChilDofChaoSn
Gonna have another war over whether to call it Sunkunet or Xenonet
やばくね!?「サンクネット」か「ゼノネット」かでまた戦争始まりそうじゃん笑ギャル
Shantotto11
That’s silly. They should call it The Timmy.
それはバカバカしいな。「The Timmy」って呼ぶべきだよ。普通くん
SciFiXhi
DragoNet is my guess; Ryusui is going to muscle in and be the only ISP. Still better than Comcast by any measure.
ドラゴネットじゃね? 龍水が乗り込んで唯一のISPになるんだろ笑 でもComcastよりはマシじゃん!ギャル
Roeclean
Hell nahh, we all know that shii is gonna be going by the kbps 🤣🤣🤣🤣
いやマジで、あれ絶対kbpsで動くってみんな分かってるだろwww普通くん
BosuW
Call it the Stonenet
やばっ!ストーンネットって呼ぶの、まじ天才じゃん!笑ギャル
MalevolntCatastrophe
I would be surprised if its the actual internet, considering Senku's "Cell Phone" from before was a pretty rudimentary radio.
確かに、前回の千空の「携帯電話」が原始的なラジオだったことを考えると、本当のインターネットだったら驚くよね。普通くん
GaimeGuy
原文
fundamentally, the backbone of the internet is 570ish undersea fiber optic data cables of varying length that connect countries and continents. Some are 100-150km long, like those connecting ireland and the uk. Some are thousands, or even tens of thosuuands, of km long, and span across the pacific, atlantic, or the african continent. That's literally how the "magic" of the internet works. Satellite uplinks, cell towers, the wall jacks and routers and fiber cabling that goes into your house, those are all relays, but the big connections that make the internet ubiquitous are those undersea cables I speak of.
この考察、非常に興味深い。インターネットの根幹が約570本もの海底光ファイバーケーブルで成り立っているという事実は、まさにDr.STONE的な「科学の魔法」を感じさせる。特に国や大陸間を結ぶ長大なケーブル群の存在は、現代社会が物理的なインフラに依存していることを如実に示している。アイルランドとイギリス間の100〜150km程度の短いものから、太平洋や大西洋を横断する数万km級のものまで、これらのケーブルがなければ、我々が当たり前のように使うインターネットの「魔法」は成立しない。衛星通信や携帯基地局、家庭内のルーターや壁ジャックはあくまで末端のリレーであり、真の大動脈はこの海底ケーブル網だという理解は、作品の「科学で文明を再構築する」テーマとも深く共鳴する。考察くん
Roeclean
Still, aren't the undersea cables more so to speed up the internet to modern day speeds. Wouldn't it be easier to just launch more satellites, since I doubt they want to go through the trouble of creating submarines to safely place any cables.
確かに海底ケーブルは現代の通信速度を出すためのものだよね。でも衛星をもっと打ち上げた方が簡単じゃない?潜水艦作ってまでケーブル敷設する手間考えるとさ。普通くん
GaimeGuy
They have plows and sonar, and the ocean floor naturally has an S shaped curvature because of geography, tides , water pressure, and tectonics iirc. All they really have to do is rig a plow anchored to the ship, have ukyo watch the sea bed with sonar while they travel in an s shape and unwind the cable into the plowed space. I think.
草、マジで天才かよ。プラウとソナーあれば海底下のS字カーブなんて地理や潮汐の影響で自然にできるし、船にプラウ括り付けてウキョウにソナー監視させながらS字走行でケーブルを掘った溝に落とすだけでええやん。ワイはそう思うンゴwww2ちゃん
VinLAURiA
原文
I mean, even the modern internet slowly grew out of technology that isn't much more advanced than what they're working with here. The transition from the original ARPANET to what we have now was a piecemeal Theseus-esque thing, not a hard replacement. I can imagine them eventually reaching a similar level to us the same way. Hell, you'd be surprised how many of those older foundational technologies from the internet's infancy are still functional. People still use Usenet , after all. And teletext . Some people are still on dial-up, even.
確かに、現代のインターネットだって彼らが今使ってる技術と大差ないとこから徐々に成長してきたもんね。ARPANETから今の形になるまでだって、全部を一度に置き換えたわけじゃなくて、テセウスの船みたいに少しずつ変わってきたんだよ。彼らも同じように、いつか俺たちと同じレベルに達するんじゃないかな。それに、インターネット黎明期の古い技術がまだ動いてるって知ったら驚くかも。Usenetやテレテキストはまだ使われてるし、未だにダイヤルアップの人もいるしね。普通くん
AmethystItalian
I understand they need to make things take this long to be realistic but how long has it been now? Show has always been absurd though so guess nothing too new there! Internet time!!
わかるわかる!リアルさ重視で時間かけるのは必要だと思うけど、もうどんだけ経ったっけ?笑 でもこのアニメもともとぶっ飛んでるし、今更って感じじゃん!インターネットタイムきたー!!ギャル
voltagejim
It's a bit annoying, but in the beginning of the show, things were pretty easy to make becuase they were starting from stone age and moving through time periods. Now that we have gotten to around modern time, everything is so advanced there is no way they could make these things so quick. but I just shut my brain off and enjoy the final ruide
確かに、序盤は石器時代から始めて時間を追うごとに物事が簡単に作れてたけど、現代に近づくにつれてあのスピードで作れるわけないって感じだよね。でも俺も頭を空っぽにして最終ラウンドを楽しんでるよ。普通くん
seekohler
原文
The issue is that they simply aren't showing the contributions of all the no-name people they've been reviving in the cities enough. It was the same in the manga. So, it just appears like our core group of 20 characters are doing all these amazing feats when, in fact, there are like armies of other people in the background helping we never see. When you realize this, it makes their progress make more sense.
確かにその通りだな。原作でも同じ傾向があったが、復活させた無名の人々の貢献が描かれていないのが問題だ。つまり、20人ほどの主要キャラだけが全ての偉業を成し遂げているように見えるが、実際には背景に大勢の軍勢がいて、我々が見ていないだけで手助けしているんだ。この点に気づくと、彼らの進歩に納得がいくという考察ができる。考察くん
huntrshado
they do show the various boats coming in with supplies, and none of the main cast are in those other locations now
せやな、補給物資運ぶ船のカットは何度も映してるし、主要キャラはもう別の場所にいるって描写もあったやん。2ちゃん
Shrike99
原文
Yep. Humanity probably numbers in at least the thousands by now, if not tens or even hundreds of thousands. As an analogue, the 'core' team at NASA working on Apollo was about a hundred crack scientists/engineers, but the overall program employed about 400,000 people in total - most of whom won't be remembered alongside the likes of George Mueller or Von Braun (rough equivalents to Senku and Xeno).
確かに。今や人類は数千人、下手したら数万〜数十万人規模になってるだろうな。NASAのアポロ計画のコアチームは約100人の精鋭科学者・技術者だったけど、全体では約40万人が関わってた。その大半はミューラーやフォン・ブラウン(千空やゼノに相当する存在)みたいに名前が残らないんだよ。普通くん
CrashDunning
it just appears like our core group of 20 characters are doing all these amazing feats when, in fact, there are like armies of other people I mean, that's how it is in real life. It's always the Musks and Zuckerbergs getting credited for things that were largely the work of a ton of no-name grunts.
確かに、主要キャラ20人だけが凄い功績を挙げているように見えるけど、実際には大勢の名もなき人々の支えがあるんだよな。これって現実世界のマスクやザッカーバーグが、無名の作業員たちの仕事を手柄にしてる構図と完全に一致する。作品のテーマとして、集団の力と個人の栄光のバランスをどう描くか、制作陣の意図が興味深いところだ。考察くん
Hot-Log6283
Yeah I mean most people know Neil Armstrong more than Buzz Aldrin, but over half of Millennials don't even either of them, so what chance do those other people have.
確かに、大抵の人はバズ・オルドリンよりニール・アームストロングの方を知ってるけど、ミレニアル世代の半数以上はどっちも知らないって話だから、他の人たちが知られるチャンスなんてほとんどないよね。普通くん
goffer54
Yeah, I hope the at least introduce some actual revived astronauts when they start assembling the rocket in space. Like, I can accept Kaseki being bullshit, but he can't be the only one putting the thing together in the vacuum of space.
せやな、宇宙でロケット組み立てる時は復活したガチの宇宙飛行士出してほしいわ。カセキがチートなのは許すけど、真空中で一人で組み立てるのは流石に草生えるわwww2ちゃん
Mr_Zaroc
I want to see the coil wiring sweatshops Peasants working the corn fields to feed the children in the mines That should be an OVA, the view of some of these background randos seeing all their hardwork blow up
田んぼで働く農民たちが鉱山で働く子供たちを養うために汗を流す姿とか、コイル配線のブラック工場とかさ。そういう背景のモブキャラたちが、自分たちの苦労が一瞬で吹き飛ぶのを目の当たりにするOVA、見てみたいわ。普通くん
Roeclean
But like, Im pretty confident an extras episode wouldn't get that dark now. Maybe you can employ a freelance animator to tell a fan story about it
いやでもさ、今の時代に番外編でそこまでダークな展開にはならないと思うんだよね…。ファン向けの話としてフリーのアニメーターに頼むって手はあるかもだけど。感情くん
MonaganX
It makes it make more sense, but it's still pretty boring when they're low-key just manifesting advanced technology whenever they need it. At that point, why not just skip to when you've finished the rocket.
確かに説明としては筋が通るようになったけど、必要な時に都合よく高度な技術を顕現させてる感が否めないんだよな。その点で言うと、ロケット完成時まで飛ばしちゃえばいいんじゃないかって思っちゃう。伏線の張り方としてはもう一工夫欲しかったという考察ができる。考察くん
GaimeGuy
原文
Realistically, an apocalyptic event like the stone world would take ~200 years to recover from, even if we had every piece of literature and knowledge at our disposal (which they basically do in Dr Stone becauusue of Senku and Xeno's encyclopedic minds and the other savants like chelsea, ryusei, sai, etc). It took us 15 episode to create sulfanilamide, and that was roughly 1.5-2 years after senku woke up. There simply isn't a realistic way to have the story resolve without greatly accelerating things.
確かに現実的に考えたら、石の世界からの復興って200年くらいかかるよな。でもDr.STONEは千空やゼノの頭脳、チェルシーや龍星、サイたちの知識があるから話が早いんだろうな。サルファ剤作るのに15話(約1.5〜2年)かかったし、現実的に進めたら終わらないってのは納得。普通くん
hanmkim
Maybe even longer or never because we no longer have the easy to access oil that helped propel advancement over the last few hundred years.
草ァ!石油がもうないから科学文明の発展は止まるってか?
ワイは石神千空の「科学で何とかするンゴ」理論の方が好きやわwww2ちゃん
GaimeGuy
Also true - the same paths couldn't be taken because we used all the easy-to-access oil.
確かにね。簡単に採れた石油はもう使い切っちゃったから、同じ方法は取れなかったってことだな。普通くん
Roeclean
Okay now, it wouldn't be never now. It would probably take a whole lot longer (1000s of years) depending on how capable any of the modern revived people are throughout time.
せやな、今すぐってわけにはいかんやろな。現代から復活した連中の能力次第で何千年もかかるかもしれへんわ。2ちゃん
Verite_Rendition
but how long has it been now? Good question. One of the last calendar shots before the first successful launch shows 5753AD. But I'm not sure what year they started.
最初の打ち上げ成功前のカレンダーのカットに西暦5753年って出てたけど、スタートが何年かはっきりしないんだよな。普通くん
ebonyphoenix
They got back to Japan in early 5752. And the first successful launch happened a few months after that last calendar shot in early 5754. So it took them about 1 1/2- 2 years of launching failed rockets to get one right.
5752年初期に日本に戻って、そこから最初の成功打ち上げまで約2年かかったって計算になるンゴね。最初のカレンダーショットが5754年初期やから、失敗重ねて1年半〜2年くらいかけてようやく成功させたってわけや。草生えるぐらい試行錯誤しとるなwww2ちゃん
Mr_Zaroc
Also their rocket output is crazy 7 rockets in their world in 2 years is one hell of an output They must have setup an amazing factorio
確かに2年で7機のロケットはすごい生産力だよね。工場のレイアウトがFactorio並みに最適化されてるんだろうな。普通くん
CallMeGhaul
Well it seems like they have literally the entire world working towards this singular goal. All those cities were set up specifically for each part they needed. It felt a little quick to me at first but stepping back I can suspend my disbelief enough to accept it.
世界中の全部の都市がこの目標のために作られたってのはすげえわ。最初は急すぎん?って思ったけど、冷静に考えたらワイも受け入れられるンゴwww まあファンタジーやしな。2ちゃん
allied_master
Apparently according to wiki senku woke up in year 5738 April 1st, so if calender shows 5753 then its been 15 years since series started which is surprisingly short
Wikiによると、千空が目覚めたのは5738年4月1日で、カレンダーが5753年ならシリーズ開始からたった15年しか経ってないんだな。意外と短いな。普通くん
Verite_Rendition
I meant what year they started to work on the rocket (after they returned from their world tour). But good find on the series' starting date.
え、ロケット作り始めたのっていつだっけ?世界一周から戻った後だよね。でもシリーズの開始日付見つけたのすごいじゃん!ギャル
allied_master
Just search for "Dr Stone wiki events timeline"
「"Dr Stone wiki events timeline"で検索してみて」ってアドバイスッ!それだけでめっちゃ助かる情報だよな!感情くん
Verite_Rendition
I should think the wiki would be a massive spoiler risk right now, since the manga has been over for some time.
ワイ、wiki見るの怖くなってきたわ。原作もう終わってるし今見たら盛大にネタバレ食らうンゴwww2ちゃん
allied_master
I am pretty sure Senku carves the date when he woke up for the first on the a tree in first episode
千空が最初に目覚めた日付を木に刻んだのは確かだよな、第1話でやってたじゃん普通くん
LeonKevlar
原文
I knew it would be too easy if they just successfully launched their first rocket. I'm glad to see that the first one was a failure and we get this hilarious reaction face from the gang. 😆 Since it took them seven tries to successfully send a satellite up to space, how long did that actually take? Based on You's reaction , it sounded like it took them at least another year. I do love how even Xeno couldn't help but cry when they finally launched the rocket. So, the Why-Man is showing up as a moving lump of darkness on the moon. I'm really curious to see what the actual Why-Man will look like when they get there because that looks like a pretty large area of the moon. It turns out, Chrome's big plan is actually a multi-stage rocket. I really thought Senku and Xeno didn't consider this, but it looks like they did and dismissed it because of how difficult it will be to create, given how complex it is. Now they're making the internet? I love how Sai immediately burst out of his clothes when he heard that. I guess they're gonna start laying down undersea cables next episode?
最初のロケット打ち上げ成功で終わったら簡単すぎると思ってたわ。失敗して一同のリアクション面白すぎるやろwww😆 人工衛星上げるのに7回も失敗したってことはどんだけ時間かかったんや?杠の反見ると少なくとも1年はかかったっぽいな。ゼノもロケット打ち上がった時に泣いてたの草。Why-Manが月の上の動く黒い塊として現れてるんか。あの範囲広そうだから実際どんな姿なんか気になるわ。クロムの大計画は多段式ロケットか。千空とゼノは考えてなかったと思ったけど、難易度高いから却下してただけやったんか。で、次はインターネット作るんか?サイが聞いてすぐ服破って飛び出してきたのウケた。来週は海底ケーブル敷くんかな?2ちゃん
RelativeMundane9045
I do love how even Xeno couldn't help but cry when they finally launched the rocket. Even Xeno's heart isn't made of stone... anymore.
ゼノでさえロケット打ち上げ成功で泣いちゃったの良かったな。ゼノの心ももう石じゃなくなったってことか。普通くん
GaimeGuy
原文
Well, senku and the kingdom of science are sort of proving him and Stanley wrong. They thought humanity wouldn't be able to advance at all without strong rule. Yet humanity in the stone world is coming together, and it is going for the more difficult, more scientifically ambitious path. They're reviving hundreds of thousands, perhaps even a few million, and now they're going to achieve an engineering breakthrough with orbital assembly that was limited in the old world by politics and economical constraints around the resources needed.
千空と科学王国は、スタンリーたちの主張を覆しつつあると言える。彼らは「強権的な支配なしでは人類は前進できない」と考えていた。しかし石の世界の人類は結束し、より困難で科学的に野心的な道を選んでいる。数十万、場合によっては数百万もの人々を復活させ、今や旧世界では資源を巡る政治や経済的制約で限られていた軌道上組立という工学的ブレイクスルーを達成しようとしている。これは、人間の可能性を信じた千空のビジョンが正しかったことを示す伏線とも解釈できる。考察くん
PowerOhene
Sai and Kaseki in the background of that scene took me out oml 😭😂
サイとカセキが背景にいるシーン、まじで笑い止まらなかったんだけど😭😂ギャル
Saithir
I guess they're gonna start laying down undersea cables next episode? They already have faxes and satellites so it's probably easier this way than undersea cables.
やばッ!次回は海底ケーブル敷設するのかな!?もうFAXと衛星あるし、こっちの方が海底ケーブルより簡単そうじゃね?ワクワクしすぎるッ!感情くん
GaimeGuy
Nah, undersea cables are easy to make, more cost-effective in terms of the technical roadmap needed, and more reliable.
いや、海底ケーブルの方が作りやすいし、技術的なロードマップ的にもコスパいいし、信頼性も高いんだよね。普通くん
Roeclean
wow, never thought of it like that. But still, wouldn't they need to go to the bottom of the ocean floor at times to make sure the cable is in a good place and not at risk of being damaged by whatever it's on or around?
確かにそういう見方もあるわな。でも海底ケーブルが安全に設置されてるか定期的にチェックするために、やっぱ深海まで潜る必要あるんちゃうか?周りの岩とかで傷つかんようにせなあかんし。2ちゃん
NanDemoKnaives
I'm not surprised it was an unanimous vote, but it leading to Senku deciding to create the internet next is an amusing surprise. Everyone's reaction to the rocket crashing was amusing, I thought Senku and Xeno would have been more prepared for the failures lol.
全会一致だったのは驚かないけど、それが千空の次の一手をインターネット制作に決断させる展開になるとは、面白い驚きだな。ロケット墜落時の皆のリアクションが笑える。千空とゼノなら失敗への準備をもっと周到にしてると思ってたんだがな(笑)。考察くん
NoNameSwitzerland
You won the first vote in the stone world unanimously. Of course you want to show off on the internet with that.
石の世界で初めて全会一致で票を獲得したんだから、そりゃネットで自慢したくなるよね。普通くん
Querez
I mean, the two were likely hoping with all their heart that they wouldn't need to spend more time, and with the perfectionists they were, they didn't know of anything in particular that could've actually been wrong. So I think their reactions made enough sense.
確かに、2人とも心の底から「これ以上時間をかけたくない」と願っていたんだろうな。完璧主義者だったからこそ、具体的に何が間違っているかも認識できていなかったという考察ができる。彼らの反応には十分な納得感がある。考察くん
Myrkrvaldyr
原文
It took them years to get the launch right, but I want to appreciate how much Suika and Chrome have been learning all that time. They didn't have the luxury of learning math and physics the systematic way like modern people do. They had to learn only the things related rocketry, so they had to go from macro to micro until they knew enough about rocket science to even propose a viable plan, which they did, but they were still missing the details. Again, it goes to show Chrome would be a Nobel prize winner if he had been raised in the 21st century. He has great instincts.
打ち上げ成功まで何年もかかったけど、その間ずっとスイカとクロムが学び続けてきたことに拍手を送りたい。現代人みたいに数学や物理を体系的に学べる環境じゃなかったんだよな。ロケットに関係することだけを必死に覚えて、マクロからミクロへと掘り下げて、ようやく実行可能な計画を提案できるまでになった。でもそれでも細部は足りなかった。改めて思うけど、クロムは21世紀に生まれてたらノーベル賞級だったよ。直感が本当にすごい。普通くん
Nedogo
I feel like chrome would be one of those inventor YouTubers who just makes random gadgets and machines to do insane stuff just because he had a random idea and decided to follow through with it
まじでわかる!クロムって完全に思いつきで変なガジェット作ってる発明系YouTuberじゃん!笑 「なんとなく思いついたから作ってみた」ってノリでヤバい機械ポンポン作るタイプだよね〜ギャル
Myrkrvaldyr
It's possible he'd be the Japanese Styropyro, but if he met Senku, he'd have a more focused goal and become a spacecraft engineer.
確かに彼は日本のStyropyroみたいな存在かもしれないけど、千空に出会ったらもっと明確な目標を持って宇宙船エンジニアになるんだろうな。普通くん
cortez0498
So Mark Robber, but the other way around?
え、マーク・ロバーを逆にした感じってこと?笑 それやばくね!?ギャル
VinLAURiA
I would watch the hell out of Chrome bashing stuff together on a YouTube channel. Antics would almost certainly ensue.
クロムがYouTubeで適当にモノぶっ壊してる動画とかワイはガン見するわwww絶対カオスになるやろwww2ちゃん
thoughtlow
It took them years to get the launch right, but I want to appreciate how much Suika and Chrome have been learning all that time. Would be cool if we got to see a tiny bit of what they are learning, / what problems they are trying to solve.
確かに、打ち上げを成功させるまでに何年もかかったけど、その間ずっとスイカとクロムが学び続けてた過程を評価したい。彼らがどんな問題を解決しようとしていたのか、学んでいる内容の一部でも見られたら最高だったのにな。考察くん
SciFiXhi
Did they not? Every time a rocket failed, Senku and Xeno identified what the problem was, and Chrome and Suika were there to hear about it firsthand. Their initial work was in scaling up the original rocket's design while still accounting for all the variable issues the test launches faced.
いや、ちゃんとやってたやろ。ロケット失敗するたびに千空とXenoが問題特定して、クロムとスイカが直接聞いてたやん。最初の仕事はテスト打ち上げで起きた色んな問題を考慮しつつ、元のロケット設計をスケールアップすることやったしな。2ちゃん
Volfaer
I cried a little bit here when they showed the unanimous vote for the 2 way rocket. Also Kaseki exploding Sai's clothes with his AOE was hilarious.
2wayロケットの満場一致の投票シーンでちょっと泣いた。あとカセキがサイの服を範囲攻撃で吹き飛ばしたのは笑えたわ。普通くん
Cheesemacher
I think Sai exploded his own clothes when he heard the word "internet"
「インターネット」って言葉聞いた瞬間、サイが自分の服を爆破したんじゃないかって思ったんだけどッ!?!?感情くん
abandoned_idol
Makes sense given he's the "digital blacksmith".
「デジタルブラックスミス」って設定からして納得やわwww2ちゃん
LakerBlue
Very Food Wars of them lol
めっちゃ食戟やん!笑ギャル
GezelligPindakaas
Pornhub in Stone Age confirmed?
Pornhubが石器時代に存在してたってマジ?草生えるわwww2ちゃん
Boris-_-Badenov
so how many years are supposed to be going by?? I thought they were in a time crunch
やばくね!?時間どんだけ経ってくのって話じゃん!?てか時間ないって言ってたのにまじでやばいんだけど笑ギャル
ebonyphoenix
From the official timeline, it takes about 2 years from their return to Japan to their successful satellite launch.
マジで!?日本に戻ってから衛星打ち上げ成功までたった2年なの!?科学の力エグすぎるッ!!感情くん
Boris-_-Badenov
yet Xeno took 3 years on just one engine
ゼノはたった一つのエンジンに3年もかけたんだな普通くん
ebonyphoenix
It wasn’t designing the engine that took 3 years. It was getting the materials and infrastructure up to produce that engine that took time.
それな!エンジンの設計自体はそこまで時間かかってないんだよね。材料集めて生産するためのインフラ整えるのに3年かかったって話じゃん?まじで現実的な工程すぎる笑ギャル
Shrike99
Yep, the first of something always takes the longest. IRL it typically takes 5-10 years to develop a new rocket engine, but after that you can build subsequent copies in a few months.
せやな、最初のやつが一番時間かかるよな。現実でも新型ロケットエンジン開発に5〜10年かかるけど、2機目以降は数ヶ月で作れるンゴwww Dr.STONEの理論ガチでリアルやわ2ちゃん
Boris-_-Badenov
not in a stone world. and they need to build an entire rocket almost every time
石の世界じゃないんだよな。しかも毎回ほぼロケットを一から作んなきゃいけないのヤバすぎるッ!感情くん
Roeclean
Not entirely now, since it has been shown that they are able to salvage the fell rockets, and they obviously have a lot of other resources too, for when it just blows up as well. They rarely ever mine a little of some mineral
全くそうとも言えないね。だって彼らは墜落したロケットを回収できるって明らかになってるし、爆発した時用に他にもたくさん資源を持ってるのが明らかじゃん。少量の鉱物を採掘するだけってことは滅多にないよ。普通くん
Boris-_-Badenov
they can salvage resources, but they literally said the tiniest flaws will ruin it. reusing the blown up wreckage from a flawed launch will lead to another failure
マジで言うけど、資源は回収できるって言っても「ほんの小さな欠陥で台無しになる」って言ってたじゃん。爆発した失敗作の残骸を再利用したらまた失敗するに決まってるッ!無理すぎるだろこれ…感情くん
Roeclean
Bro, I'm referring to the materials. As in melting down the broken parts and using them to rebuild them into a new rocket. Yk, since the rocket is made from refined minerals that are a lot more complex then melting down metals into a mold
いや、素材の話だよ。壊れたパーツを溶かして新しいロケットに作り直すって意味。だってロケットって精製された鉱物でできてて、金属を溶かして型に流すよりずっと複雑なんだよね。普通くん
Boris-_-Badenov
that's still building the rocket each time
毎回ロケット作ってるの草すぎるやろwww2ちゃん
Sorwest
Really? I had assumed it was 1 rocket a year so a minimum of 7 years since the first attempt
え、そうなの?てっきり年に1機ロケット作ってるから最初の挑戦から最低7年はかかると思ってたわ。普通くん
Nesp2
All this time I keep wondering - can Whyman not counter them/do anything? I mean for gods sake they're literally sending rockets and satelites into space and now observing him with a giant ass telescope.
ずっと気になってたんだが、Whymanには彼らに対抗する手段がないのか?何せ奴らは文字通りロケットや衛星を宇宙に打ち上げて、今や巨大な望遠鏡で観測してるんだぞ。この状況を踏まえると、Whymanの立場が受動的すぎるのが気になる。制作陣の意図として、何か大きな伏線が隠されてる可能性を感じる。考察くん
allied_master
From the series start to end of latest episode 15 years has gone by.
ワイ、シリーズ開始から最新話までで15年経ってて草
時の流れ早すぎやろww2ちゃん
ObvsThrowaway5120
Rocket science is, well, an exact science. One little error and your rocket blows up, crashes into the ocean shortly after launch, or tips over on the launchpad. Seven tries later and they finally got one to launch. With a little extra work, they’ve located that bastard Why-Man. Now they’ve just got to make a rocket that can survive the round trip. First step, making the Internet!
ロケット科学ってまさに正確な科学だよな。ほんの小さなミスで爆発したり、打ち上げ直後に海に落ちたり、発射台で倒れたりする。7回も挑戦してようやく1機打ち上げ成功。さらに頑張ってあのクソ野郎ホワイマンを見つけた。あとは往復できるロケットを作るだけ。まずはインターネットを作るところからだ!普通くん
Boris-_-Badenov
imagine how slow the speeds will be, if they only have one primitive satellite
草ァ!たった一個の原始的な衛星しかないとか速度どんだけ遅いんだよwww2ちゃん
BosuW
Rocket science is truly crazy a million things have to go right for it to work and if just one of those things fail it crashes and burns.
ロケット科学ってほんと狂ってるよな。うまくいくには何百万もの要素が全部正しく動かないといけなくて、たった一つでも失敗したら即爆発だもんね。普通くん
VinLAURiA
Turns out that it is in fact rocket science.
結局ロケット科学やったンゴwww 草2ちゃん
Roeclean
You dont say. And you got chrome and Suika making notes on it. Holyy fuccc, I hope Senku looks at them at some point.
確かに。しかもクロムとスイカがそれについてメモ取ってるんだよな。マジかよ、いつか千空がそれを見てくれるといいな。普通くん
kicksFR
I like how we saw many setbacks and failures, too many things had worked at the first try before
せやな、今までは一回で上手くいきすぎてたからな。今回は挫折や失敗がバンバン出てきてむしろリアルでワイは好きやでwww2ちゃん
PiotrekDG
Yes, the failures were the absolute best part of the series. Almost nothing humanity creates/designs/invents works on the first try. The real success is persevering despite those failures when we know that the idea is sound.
確かに、失敗こそこのシリーズの最高の部分だったよね。人類が作るものってほとんど最初の一発で成功しないし。大事なのはアイデアが正しいと信じて、失敗しても諦めずに続けることだと思う。普通くん
FoolingFinality
Anyone who pursues knowledge should understand the quote - "The more you know, the more you understand that you don't know"- so that you never stop learning, which ironically makes you the most humble person when you have knowledge which far surpasses the majority.
この「知れば知るほど、自分がいかに知らないかを思い知る」という言葉は、知識を追求する者なら誰もが理解すべき格言だよな。だからこそ学びを止められないし、皮肉なことに大多数を遥かに超える知識を持つ時こそ、最も謙虚な人間になれるという考察ができる。考察くん
PiotrekDG
Also known as the Dunning-Kruger effect .
それってダニング=クルーガー効果ってやつだね。普通くん
Magnafeana
原文
Isn’t there a whole multimedia speculative fiction project named 17776 or something about satellites enjoying looooong distance football? The satellite “talking” in this episode reminded me of that. (I googled. Yes, it’s called 17776 about probes. Apparently, on April 7, 2026, humanity stopped dying, aging, and being born and all diseased were cured. And football is still going strong.) It’s been one week since you looked at me three years now? I kinda wish there were more visual cues to help with the passage of time. But I’m impressed we have astrophysics and rocket science before we have the internet, but this is probably my bias since the internet is younger than rockets, I think. And for what Sai says, I was so curious, so I found sources! The explanation for the error, according to numerous accounts in the weeks and years that followed, was more complicated: a combination of system failures destabilized the spacecraft, and one of them appeared to originate with a “missing hyphen” or bad FORTRAN code somewhere in the software. But a funny thing happened on the way to space history: FORTRAN wasn’t being used for the rocket guidance system, and a missing hyphen wasn’t really to blame. The missing character was actually an overbar, or vinculum, a mathematical figure meant to indicate the mean of a set. When transcribing by hand the code for the guidance program, some unknown engineer at NASA had missed the overbar in “R-dot-bar sub n” or which means “the nth smoothed value of the time derivative of a radius R.” Without the smoothing function indicated by that overbar, the rocket’s software interpreted normal minor variations of velocity as if they were serious. This caused mistaken corrections that sent the rocket off course and into oblivion. — VICE (see below) Now I have more questions. I guess FORTRAN is a programming language by IBM? And stands for * Formula Translating System*. And early IBM computers didn’t have lowercase which is why it was in all caps/small caps, which is so crazy. Were we all just shouting at each other in all caps for a period of time? Is that why old people write in all caps? TIL! Sources Mariner 1 🔗 NASA The Typo that Destroyed a NASA Rocket 🔗 Priceonomics July 22, 1962: Mariner 1 Done In by a Typo 🔗 WIRED Launch of Mariner 1 🔗 National Air and Space Museum | Smithsonian Sometimes a Typo Means You Need to Blow Up Your Own Spacecraft 🔗 VICE FORTRAN 🔗 Wikipedia 17776 🔗 Wikipedia
「17776っていうマルチメディアSF作品、人工衛星が超長距離サッカーしてる話だよな?今回の衛星の“会話”、あれ思い出したわ。(ググったらやっぱり17776って探査機の話だった。どうやら2026年4月7日から人類は死なず老化せず出生もなくなり全疾病が治癒。でもサッカーはまだ続いてるらしい。)あれから3年経ったのか…時間経過をもっと視覚的に表現してほしかったな。でもロケット科学の前にインターネットがなかったのは興味深い。俺のバイアスかもしれないけど、インターネットはロケットより後発だからな。サイが言ってたエラーについて、気になってソースを調べたんだ!複数の記録によると原因は単純じゃなくて、システム障害の複合で探査機が不安定化したらしい。その一つが「ハイフン欠落」かFORTRANコードのバグだと言われてた。ところが面白いことに、FORTRANはロケット誘導システムに使われてなかったし、ハイフン欠落も直接の原因じゃなかった。実際の欠落文字はオーバーバー(上線)で、数学的な平均値を示す記号だった。NASAのエンジニアが手書きでコードを転記する際に「R-dot-bar sub n」(半径Rの時間微分のn番目の平滑化値)のオーバーバーを書き忘れたんだ。その平滑化機能がないせいで、ロケットのソフトが通常の速度変動を重大な異常と誤認。誤った修正でロケットはコースを外れて消考察くん
MonaganX
原文
If you want both upper- and lower-case letters, that's twice as many characters, which means you're using twice as much memory. For modern hardware that's absolutely negligible but when you only have a few bits to work with, saving half the memory required to display characters is huge. Capital letters are more unmistakable, so that's the only alphabet old computers had. Wasn't until well after lower case letters became an option that people started associating caps with yelling. As for old people, I don't really know, but I'd assume a lot of them just use it because of their declining eyesight.
大文字だけにすると文字数半分で済むから、昔のメモリ貧弱な時代にはガチで重要やったんやろな。今のハードなら誤差やけどな。大文字の方が判別しやすいから、昔のコンピュータはそれしかなかったンゴ。小文字が普及した後になってようやく「大文字=怒鳴り声」って認識が広まったんや。年寄りが大文字使うのは単に視力低下のせいやろな。2ちゃん
redditraptor6
17776 is amazing
17776はめっちゃすごいよね普通くん
VinLAURiA
"Get excited! We're inventing Lunchables."
草www 「ランチャブルを発明するぞ」ってガチで言い出したんかwww Dr.STONEらしすぎるやろ2ちゃん
santoast_
原文
This show makes me so hopeful with its big impact moments. I do miss the trial and error of science that we kinda got back this episode. I understand that the resources they need aren’t limited anymore and they are reaping the dividends of globetrotting but a lot of the breakthroughs and needs feel too convenient in this back half of the series. We need ATVs? Boom, done. Computers? I know a guy. TV? By golly, I did that last week for funsies
この作品の大きなインパクトある場面にはいつも希望をもらえる。ただ、今回のエピソードで久々に描かれた科学の試行錯誤は確かに恋しいな。シリーズ後半では、必要な資源がもはや限られていないことや、世界を巡って得た利益を享受しているのは理解できる。しかし、多くのブレイクスルーや必要性が「都合良すぎる」と感じるのは否めない。ATVが必要?はい、完成。コンピューター?知り合いがいる。テレビ?つい先週、暇つぶしで作ったよ——こういう展開は、考察するに伏線や制作側の意図が読み取りづらい部分だ。考察くん
Organic_Machine_2324
This Season is a bit of a speedrun and to be honest it does hurt the show but at the same time i’m just glad i will get to see an Ending.
今シーズンちょっと駆け足すぎる気がする。正直ショーの質を損なってるけど、でも最終回まで見られるのは嬉しいかな。普通くん
LakerBlue
It’s a weird mix of feeling time is passing too fast and missing seeing them do trial and error for the science but also being ready for the ending. If anything it is the character interactions and non-existent relational issues that feel weird for being absent at this point.
確かに時間の経過が速すぎる感覚と、科学の試行錯誤をもっと見たい気持ちが混ざり合ってるな。同時に終盤に向けての準備もできてるわけだが。個人的な考察としては、現時点でキャラクター同士の交流や人間関係の葛藤がほとんど描かれていない点が、逆に不自然に感じられる。制作陣が意図的にそうしてるのか、それとも尺の都合か、興味深いところだ。考察くん
matbot55
The early seasons went into a lot of detail when it came to science, but since that hasn't really been the case for a long time (I'd argue since around the time they made the first car), the lack of complex relationships has become a lot more apparent. It wasn't that noticeable early on, because our focus was on a different aspect.
初期シーズンは科学の細かい説明が多かったけど、最初の車を作ったあたりからそれが減って、複雑な人間関係の薄さが目立つようになったな。最初は別の部分に集中してたから気にならなかったんだよね。普通くん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
原文
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あ、コメント消されたわ。これは元ネタ話は上の「原作コーナー」に書けってルールや。放送中のアニメスレでは、原作やスピンオフ、作者コメント、アニメ未収録部分の話は全部そこに書かなあかんねん。ちょっとした比較でもアウトやで。ネタバレで消されたわけやないで? あくまでルール違反や。文句あるなら返信かmodmailかメタスレに書いてな。ルール読んでない奴はまず読めや。2ちゃん
Ok-Leave3121
原文
Dr. Stone is a good anime but it's hard to suspend my disbelief around this part of the anime. Like Senku's group becoming allies with Xeno group (Granted Tsukasa was the main antagonist for awhile and now he's good friends with Denki), then in the previous few episodes they managed to create TV and computer and apparently in this episode there's a time skip but it doesn't look like any of the characters have aged since the time skip
確かにDr.STONEは面白いけど、この辺はちょっとご都合主義だよね。千空とゼノ組が急に同盟組んだり(つかさも元敵だったのに今やデンキと仲良しだし)、前の数話でテレビやパソコン作っちゃったのに、今回タイムスキップしてもキャラの見た目が全然変わってないのは気になる。普通くん
Myrkrvaldyr
it doesn't look like any of the characters have aged since the time skip Because constantly redesigning characters to age them up takes a lot of time.
やばくね!?タイムスキップしたのに誰も老けてなくない?まあキャラのデザイン変えて年取らせるのってめっちゃ時間かかるしね〜ギャル
Ok-Leave3121
Fair point
せやな、確かにその通りやわ2ちゃん
time_axis
it doesn't look like any of the characters have aged since the time skip They already look incredibly stylized, so the difference between a 19 year old and a 25 year old or however much is really not going to be noticeable anyway.
確かにタイムスキップ後のキャラデザ、みんなあんまり変わってないね。もともと特徴的なデザインだから、19歳と25歳の差ってあんまり分かんないかもな。普通くん
Original-Body-5794
I expected Suika to age a bit more noticibly but it would also be pretty weird to give her a redesign after all the time she spent alone and then give her ANOTHER and only her so I guess it makes sense for everyone to stay the same. But it doesn't sell the passage of time that well.
確かにスイカの成長描写はもう少しあっても良かった気がする。でも、彼女だけ孤軍奮闘してた時期にデザイン変更して、さらにまた変えるのはおかしいし、全員同じままなのは納得できる。ただ、時間経過の演出としては弱いという考察ができる。考察くん
time_axis
She was already Kohaku's age, so if Kohaku isn't visibly aging, doesn't make sense for her to either. She's just short.
確かにコハクと同年代やし、コハクが老けてないなら彼女も同じやろ。ただ単に背が低いだけやん。2ちゃん
hanmkim
She was surviving by herself trying to bring everyone back to life so she probably didn't get the proper nutrition to grow during the most important timespan.
やばくない!?彼女ずっと一人で生きながらみんなを復活させようとしてたから、大事な時期にちゃんと栄養取れてなかったんだよね…まじ切ないわ😢ギャル
hanmkim
Even in the beginning you had a guy with unlimited endurance (who needs farm equipment or power tools?) and another who could singlehandedly take down large animals.
確かに最初から、無限スタミナ持ちのやつ(農機具とか電動工具いらなくね?)と、大型動物を一人で倒せるやつがいたもんな。普通くん
Hot-Log6283
it doesn't look like any of the characters have aged since the time skip Black don't crack. Asian don't die.
草ァ!タイムスキップしてもキャラ全員見た目変わらんのなwww
Black don't crack、Asian don't dieってマジやなww2ちゃん
GaimeGuy
Things Chrome has invented: A compass, a fire lens, bleach, a drill, a rocket sled, a bomb, a custom heating set, a water wheel, a sulfar ball, a now, a motherfucking orbital assembly approach to building a rocket in five stages that can allow them to make a 2 way trip.
クロームが発明したものリスト:方位磁針、火レンズ、漂白剤、ドリル、ロケット橇、爆弾、特製加熱セット、水車、硫黄球、そしてなんと5段階で往復可能なロケットを組む軌道上組立手法。マジでやばいなこの子。普通くん
Inner-Plankton5942
Imagine if Chrome was born into the 21st century, the way his mind adapted to the new technologies being introduced to him on a regular basis is insane. Its like teaching 1+1 to a toddler then have it try algebra by next week.
クロームが21世紀に生まれていたら、と考えると興味深いな。彼の頭脳が次々に導入される新技術に適応していく様は、まるで幼児に1+1を教えた翌週に代数を解かせるようなものだ。つまり、彼の適応力と学習速度は尋常じゃない。これは原作が描く「科学の本質」——知識の積み重ねと応用力——を体現していると言える。考察くん
GaimeGuy
原文
Oh yeah, I forgot: A metal detector, and a stealth coating for ships using the Medusas to hide from sonar, and an automated triggering mechanism for the miracle liquid. Probably forgot a few other things too He's a genius and you can tell both xeno and senku respect him, as he's surprised them both with his creativity. He might not have the experience with math and physics, or the knowledge of thousands of machines and devices from humanity's past, but in a way, it allows him to think more freely about problems and their solutions. And we've seen it in his random lightbulb moments.
あ、そういえば金属探知機とか、メデューサ使った潜水艦のステルスコーティング、奇跡の液体の自動発動装置もあったな。他にもいくつか忘れてるかも。彼は天才で、ゼノも千空も彼の創造性に驚かされてるのがわかる。数学や物理の経験、人類の過去の機械や装置の知識は千空ほどじゃないけど、それが逆に問題解決を自由に考えられる強みになってるんだよね。実際、彼のひらめきシーンでそれが証明されてる。普通くん
Ayvian
It's a bit silly that supposedly Senku didn't teach Chrome Science and Maths when they've been travelling together for so long. Like, narratively it makes sense to keep Chrome as a plucky underdog, but realistically Chrome wouldv'e been bugging Senku to teach him and Senku would've happily complied.
確かに、千空がクロムに科学や数学を教えなかったという設定には少し違和感があるな。物語上の演出としてクロムを「根性あるアンダードッグ」に留めるのは理解できるが、現実的に考えると、あれだけ長い旅路を共にしていればクロムが千空に教えを請うのは必然で、千空も喜んで応じただろうという考察ができる。制作陣の意図としては、クロムの成長曲線を緩やかに描くための選択だったと思われるが、作品のリアリティラインを考えると少し惜しい伏線の使い方だ。考察くん
GaimeGuy
Pretty sure sai has been teaching both suika and chrom since he was a math tutor.
やばくね!?サイって数学の先生やってた時からスイカとクロムの両方に教えてたんだってまじかよ!ギャル
VinLAURiA
It's been said time and time again: Chrome is utterly brilliant even by modern standards but had the misfortune of being born in an era where humanity had almost completely regressed. Give him modern resources and he takes to it like a fish to water. Dude's basically a stone-age da Vinci.
何度も言われてるけど、クロムは現代基準でもめちゃくちゃ優秀なのに、人類がほぼ退化した時代に生まれたのが不運だったんだよ。現代のリソースを与えたら水を得た魚みたいに使いこなす。まさに石器時代のダ・ヴィンチだな。普通くん
Salty145
Are there just no other NASA scientists they could revive to get this rocket up and running? Like surely you can dig up the people whose jobs pre-petrification was to make rockets?
それな!まじでNASAのロケット専門家とか復活させればよくね?って思うんだけど笑ギャル
allied_master
Building a rocket is like senku's whole backstory and motivation And he is the mc so according to laws of shounen you cant fo that
ロケットを作るのは千空のバックストーリーと動機そのものだし、彼が主人公なんだから、少年漫画の法則的にそれはできないでしょ普通くん
MMinjin
You think it took them too long to get a successful launch? Look at the news. We are in the 21st century, we have the world's resources available, and still rockets blow up. This stuff isn't easy.
確かに!現代の最先端技術でもロケットは爆発するしな。21世紀でもこんなに難しいんだから、あの世界観で数年の試行錯誤で成功させるのすごすぎるッ!感情くん
NoNameSwitzerland
You do not introduce new characters so late in the show.
マジで?終盤に新キャラ出してくるのありえないじゃん!展開的に無理あるって笑ギャル
Salty145
They don't have to be named. They can just be grunt work. Not to mention we already did with Sai
サイって名前出てないし、単なる雑用みたいな感じでいいんじゃない?それにサイで既にやってるしな普通くん
BillPlunderones23fg
Xeno making the faces as well is always hilarious since he is so serious most of the time
ゼノがいつも真面目なのにあんな顔するの草生えるわwww2ちゃん
Cheesemacher
Oh, this is interesting. After almost 4000 years, the Bay of Bothnia hasn't turned into a lake yet?
お、これ面白いね。約4000年経ってもボスニア湾がまだ湖になってないのか?普通くん
Infamous_Aardvark146
I love this show so fucking much man. The 10-0 vote reveal hit hard.
ワイこのアニメガチで好きやわ。10-0の投票結果のとこはマジでグッときてもうたンゴwww2ちゃん
FoolingFinality
I never thought I was the kind of person who gets happy at someone's failure, but here I am...
まじで自分でもびっくりなんだけど、あの人の失敗見てめっちゃ嬉しくなっちゃったわ笑ギャル
Astrid_Yen08
It's so nice to see Xeno and Senku be together on their first (and trial and error) rocket moon launch in the stone world, they've come a long way. Good job Chrome and Suika! I felt so warm seeing the voting results being 0-10. They're gonna create the internet? Now that's an exciting news!
ゼノと千空が石の世界で初めてのロケット月面打ち上げ(試行錯誤の末)を一緒にやってるのを見るの、本当に感慨深いな。二人とも長い道のりを歩んできたんだね。クロムとスイカ、よくやった!投票結果が0-10だったのを見てすごくほっこりしたよ。次はインターネットを作るのか?それはめっちゃ楽しみなニュースだ!普通くん
2HGjudge
原文
If years have passed a bunch of the main cast should've become parents by now. Why do we not see babies anywhere? Tsukasa Empire did tackle sexuality in their society and they were anti-adults, so you can't justify avoiding it just because most of the cast started out as teenagers. I was a little bit hopeful last(?) episode when Kinro and that Treasure Island chick were presenting a tv show together, when she previously expressed interest in him. Does the manga go into this a bit deeper?
確かに、長期間の経過を考えると主要キャストの結婚・子育て描写が無いのは気になる点だ。ツカサ帝国編では社会における性の問題に触れていたのに、主要キャラが十代だからという理由で避け続けるのは不自然と言わざるを得ない。金狼と宝島の女性が共にテレビ番組を進行していた回には期待したが、漫画本編ではこのテーマをより深く掘り下げているのだろうか? 制作陣の意図が気になる。考察くん
iamgarou
Kirisame never said that, it was the reporter (Minami) who said that they could make a couple since they looks copies, and she was embarrassed because she's shy in anything about relationships. Look how she blushed when she worked with KoS on the fireworks episode. And I'm sure Moz is having fun times in Corn City.....
キリサメが言ったわけじゃなくて、リポーターのミナミが「そっくりだからカップルになれる」って言ったんだよ。キリサメは恋愛関係のことになると恥ずかしがり屋で、照れてたんだ。実際、花火の回でコハクと一緒に作業した時も真っ赤になってたじゃん。モズはたぶんコーンシティで楽しくやってるんだろうな……普通くん
Nebresto
Good point. We're supposedly doing multi-year timeskips but everyone looks exactly the same
確かに!何年も飛んでるのにキャラみんな見た目変わんなくね?やばくない!?笑ギャル
mrkorb
原文
Soooo...15 years have passed in the course of this series, and we are to believe that during all that time, this cast of teenagers and young adults, have been successfully keeping it in their pants? I mean, I'm sorry, and I don't intend to be crass at all, but, really? Nobody has fallen in love? No smitten flings? No torrid affairs? Gotten married? Families? Children? That's almost more unbelievable than the way they keep just pulling tech advancements outta nowhere.
このシリーズで15年も経過したのに、登場人物のティーンエイジャーや若者たちがずっと貞操を守り続けてきたと信じろって?いや、下品なつもりはないけど、さすがに無理があるだろ。誰も恋をしない?一目惚れもない?燃えるような関係も?結婚も?家族も?子供も?これ、突如として技術革新を次々と生み出す設定よりよっぽど非現実的だと思うんだが。考察くん
Nesp2
It would be so realistic if someone got pregnant and then Senku would make condoms.
それな!誰か妊娠したら千空がコンドーム作る流れになるのめっちゃリアルすぎるッ!感情くん
singleguy79
They're going to re-create the Internet, then they will recreate Reddit.
インターネットを作り直すのか…その次はRedditも復活させるんだな。普通くん
zeroryoko1974
Kohaku only fans
コハクのファンは俺だけだ…!って叫びたくなるくらい推せるッ!感情くん
Ayvian
Alas, they were so close to creating a Utopia without Redditors.
ああ、Redditユーザーがいないユートピアを作る寸前だったのにね。普通くん
FoolingFinality
And here I thought they would already have wall-mounted flat screen monitors by now.
え、まさかもう壁掛けモニターとかあると思ってたんだけど!笑 やばくね?ギャル
Bakadestroyerr
Damn, this was just a weekly ep, but it still managed to tug on my strings! I am gonna miss this one. Dr. Stone will have a special place in my heart!
確かに、ただの週1エピソードなのにめっちゃ心に響いたわ。Dr.STONEはこれからも俺の中で特別な作品だな。終わるの寂しいよ。普通くん
Plastic_Piano_2401
Bro just attach a rope to the astronauts and pull them back to earth once theyre petrified, its that ez
草、それガチで簡単じゃね?宇宙飛行士が石化したらロープつけて地球に引き戻せばええやんwww 博士も気づけよw2ちゃん
SevenIsMyTherapist
for anybody else who also vibed with the music from the rocket entering space:
ロケットが宇宙に入る時の音楽、めっちゃ良かったよね普通くん
agentperiod
why not just revive the whole nasa team LOL
「NASAチーム全員復活させればよくね?www」感情くん
Nebresto
Unironically yes. They're spending years anyways, why not just head to Nasa HQ for some additional manpower.
確かにそうだよね。どうせ何年もかかるんだし、NASA本部に行って人手を増やすのは合理的だと思う。普通くん
Muzzy-chan
原文
I'll say this as many times as needed, but this anime series sure gets me to shed tears most of the time. Not because it has any sad plot or what, but because of how cool science is, how awesome science people are, and how genius of a creator God is! 😭 To be able to figure out every tiny detail like that, to be able to memorise and practise all that cool stuff that most of us mere humans would never be able to do in our lifetime. Damn, I'm so grateful to our ancestors. It's even more awesome that God only provides certain info and clues for things, yet we humans are able to figure them out even if it takes time. How can I put this into words? I cannot. The coolness, awesomeness of science, science people, and everything that happened stemming from science, from our one creator, heaven, they are sooo truly magnificently awesome! Though science also causes much destruction, to be able to figure out what makes the destructive stuff from science, that's also a wonder. Truly, people unite because of science. I sincerely and wholeheartedly thank my ancestors for everything, thanks God for creating such brilliant creations! 🙇🏻♂️
何度でも言うわ、このアニメマジで毎回泣かされとる😭
別に悲しい話とかちゃうねん、科学ってこんなかっこええんか!って感動してまうンゴ…
普通の人間には一生できへんようなクソ凄いこと覚えて実践してる先人たち、ガチで尊敬するわ
神様がヒントだけくれて、人間が時間かけて解き明かすってのもまたロマンやんな🤔
科学が破壊も生むけど、その仕組みすら解明しようとするのもまた神秘やし
結局、科学が人を繋げとるんやな…先人と神に感謝🙇🏻♂️2ちゃん
Broken_DMG
Thank you Onion Ninjas for visiting at the end of the episode.
やばっ!最終回でオニオンニンジャ来てくれたの神じゃん!?泣けるんだけどまじで!ギャル
i_eat_pidgeons
how old is Senku now? I remember somebody saying there's been 10 years since they were petrified a couple of episodes back and just this episode covered several years. he's probably in his late 20s/early 30s but he still looks the same as in episode 1.
確かに千空って何歳なんだろうね。数話前に石化から10年経ったって言ってたし、今回のエピソードでさらに数年経ったはず。たぶん20代後半〜30代前半くらいだと思うけど、第1話の時と全然見た目変わってないんだよな。普通くん
ebonyphoenix
Senku is about 23/24 at the moment. The 10 years mentioned also counts the 7 years everyone but Suika was petrified.
え、千空って今23〜24歳なの?!石化してた7年も含めての10年ってわけか…そんな計算になるのか。ちょっと衝撃すぎるッ!感情くん
PowerOhene
Yeah, he should be in his mid twenties, but the designes are pretty much the same.
せやな、設定上は20代半ばやろけど、デザインほぼ変わらんやんwww ガチでそのまんまやな2ちゃん
BosuW
Two way it is! Fitting that Chrome's idea is to build the ship in space through multiple launches. Today in a few hours there's another Starship launch, and in the future, Starship is supposed to connect to a tanker and refuel in space for the missions to the Moon and Mars and wherever else it is needed.
クロムの「宇宙で船を組み立てる」ってアイデア、まさにそれだよね。今日も数時間後にスターシップの打ち上げがあるし、将来はタンカーとドッキングして月や火星行きの燃料補給をする予定なんだって。現実とリンクしてて面白いな。普通くん
Zado191
I cant wait for this to be over. I was working in a science centre when the show first came on and it was just the greatest thing to me.... but in this race to the ending they have definitely jumped the shark here. Started to go off the rails back when they got the full on ship and came across the pacific but now its just out of hand. Really hope the payoff at the end is worth it
やっと終わるのかこれ。ワイ、このアニメ始まった頃に科学館で働いててめっちゃハマったンゴ……でも終盤に向けて完全にジャンプ・ザ・シャークしとるやん。船手に入れて太平洋渡った辺りからおかしくなり始めたけど、今はもう手ぇつけられへんわ。最後のオチがマジで報われることを願うわ。2ちゃん
_Sai
I think it might have been a good idea they tried this first rather than a manned mission to the moon... Because.. Yeah.
それな!有人月面ミッションやる前にこっち試すの結構アリじゃね?まじでそう思うわ笑ギャル
magnumcyclonex
原文
While it was finally good to show some setbacks, these specific ones on the Senku rocket had to have been very costly in terms of materials, labor, and time. We are only now seeing a global collaboration when those shipments arrive, but I have to wonder, there's gotta be people all over the world that have been revived who can do much of this stuff too. There are other scientists out there, other laborers, other mechanical engineers etc. Either way, for the sake of the story, we just have to roll with everything revolving around our main characters.
やっと挫折シーンが出てきて良かったけど、千空のロケットの失敗は素材とか人手とか時間的にガチで痛すぎやろwww 今ようやく世界中から物資届いて国際協力が始まったけど、復活した他の科学者や技術者も世界中にたくさんいるはずやん。でもストーリーの都合上、主人公たち中心で進むのは仕方ないンゴね…2ちゃん
Mr_An_1069
The speed of which the show is going is insane. Multiple failed rocket launches over however many years it took in one episode is faster than its ever moved before, and now we got them making the internet and a two-way ship.
この作品の展開速度やばすぎるわ。何年もかかったロケット打ち上げ失敗を1話で片付けちゃうスピード感、過去最速じゃない?しかももうインターネットと双方向通信船作り始めてるし。普通くん
djthomp
Gotta love those dramatic Chrome victory moments. I hope everybody else did a fist pump along with him, I know that I did.
クロームの勝利シーン毎回アツすぎやろwww 一緒にガッツポーズしたワイおる? もちろんワイもやったわ草2ちゃん
Xatu44
Making a modular rocket to assemble ISS-style's pretty crazy. But well, so's going to space in the first place. RIP all of those years spent getting even one rocket to work properly. How many years has it been by now? A decade? Meanwhile Africa lost chunks and the US gained a new lake.
モジュール式ロケットでISS方式の組み立てをするって発想、かなりぶっ飛んでるよな。でもそもそも宇宙に行くこと自体が狂ってるわけだが。たった1基のロケットをまともに動かすのに費やした年月を思うと涙が出る。今まで何年経ったんだ?10年か?その間にアフリカは領土を削られ、アメリカには新しい湖ができたという皮肉。この時間軸の非対称性、Dr.STONEの科学発展スピードを象徴してると思われる。考察くん
zeroryoko1974
SenkuX rockets go boom
センクXのロケットがドカーンだな普通くん
ohoni
The trick to orbiting, is to throw yourself at the ground as hard as you can, and miss.
軌道のコツって、地面に向かって思いっきり突っ込んで、外すことなんだって!やばくね!?笑ギャル
Arzhart
I never thought I would cry at elections
まさか選挙で泣くとは思わなかったな普通くん
JoblessQA
How many episodes left until the end?
残り話数どれくらいあるんだろ?気になるな…感情くん
VinLAURiA
There are five more after this.
これでまだ5話残ってるんだよな普通くん
Inner-Plankton5942
Am I the only one who teared up a little bit when it was showed when everyone voted 2 way rocket? The founding people of the new stone world basically made human selfishness obsolete and this paves the way for a brighter new world. Damn got chills.
草www 2wayロケットに全員投票したシーンでワイも泣いてもうたわ
新石世界の創設者たちが人間のエゴをぶっ壊して、明るい未来への道を切り開いたってのがガチで胸熱や
震え止まらんンゴwww2ちゃん
freedomgeek
It does feel like even with the timeskips they're including things are going far too fast. I wish they'd used the immortality provided by the medusa to say "all of our characters are just not going to age beyond their prime now" and have the development of society to the point of launching rockets take decades.
確かにタイムスキップしても展開が急すぎる気がするな。メデューサの不老長寿を「キャラ全員が若さを保つ」って設定で活かして、ロケット打ち上げまで数十年かけて社会発展させる方が良かったんじゃないかな。普通くん
Top-Remote4523
原文
Honestly, I was expecting Senku and Xeno to bring in renowned rocket engineers and even astronauts to assist them, considering how Senku has always revived specific talents to aid him in specific tasks from the start of the series. However, I also think that introducing new characters at this stage to solve their issue would somewhat undermine the cast's efforts and especially Chrome, with how the story constantly emphasizes on his potential. That being said, I guess another possible issue that I can think of with leaving the exploratory team petrified on the moon is the possibility of the statues just floating away with enough impact. Gravity on the moon is significantly weaker than Earth and it is plausible to consider the possibility of them drifting far beyond what the eventual 2 way rocket could reach to retrieve them.
せやな、千空とゼノがロケット技師や宇宙飛行士まで復活させるかと思ったわ。確かに今まで適材適所で人材集めてきたしな。でもこのタイミングで新キャラ投入したら、特にクロムのポテンシャルを強調してきたストーリーの流れが台無しになるやろな。
ついでに言うと、月面で石化した探索チームが衝撃で浮いちゃうリスクもあるで。月の重力は地球より弱いから、回収用ロケットの届かんとこまで流されかねん。これ結構ヤバい問題ちゃうか?2ちゃん
Iron_Kingpin
It really caught me off guard when the rocket just failed. And that soundtrack used when it finally made it to the space was so ethereal, it also made me tear up. For the vote, i assume only the main cast did it, since it was also 10. The way they showed it made it look like everyone was doing it. But well we're finally a two way rocket now!
ロケットが失敗した瞬間は本当に衝撃的だったな。宇宙に到達した時のBGMがすごく幻想的で、思わず泣きそうになったよ。投票は主要メンバー10人だけだったんだろうけど、演出のおかげで全員がやったように見えたね。でもついに往復ロケットが完成したんだ!普通くん
CrimsonGear80
Where is the stone world Trump and Giuliani to claim the vote was “rigged” and to give a press conference in the parking lot of a landscaping business??
草ァ!石の世界でトランプとジュリアーニが「選挙は不正だった」って言いながら造園業者の駐車場で記者会見してるところ想像したらウケるんだけどwww感情くん
redlaWw
Probably about time they started cracking open those apocalypse archives that have been made to preserve data. If they could make the internet and then immediately resurrect sites like Wikipedia that'd be great.
もうそろそろ、データ保存用に作られた終末アーカイブを開く頃合いだよね。もしインターネットを作って、すぐにWikipediaみたいなサイトを復活できたら最高なんだけどな。普通くん
Maame_lade
原文
I love dcst so so much so please don’t come for me, but am i the only one who’s slightly disappointed chrome’s big genius plan was basically to force senku’s hand through democracy? I know it would be completely implausible and entirely unfeasible for him to create, with no modern knowledge and less than 5 years training on space and maths, something these two rocket scientists wouldn’t have thought of first, but i get so hyped whenever chrome does something sciencey, and this fell so flat for me. I think even if his ‘assemble the rocket on the moon’ plan had been a bit more detailed, it would’ve shown that he was utilising all the maths and science he and suika had endeavoured for years to understand. Or, if senku and xeno had glazed him a little more, it would’ve felt like all the effort they’d put had been worth it. I guess i was hoping for a moment similar to when he and kaseki made the water wheel. Even though he knows (and we the viewer know) that his idea was the result of years of deliberation, it was presented in a way that looked like he completely incidentally stumbled upon a half decent idea then convinced everyone to agree so they could do the scientific heavy lifting. Maybe this’ll be remedied in the next episode, or maybe it’ll even be chrome leading the charge and i’m complaining over nothing, but i was just really disappointed that something i thought would be a pivotal moment for the non-modern science users ended up being gimmicky and brushed off.
ワイはdcstガチ勢やから叩かれんの怖いンゴけど…クロームの「天才的計画」って実質「民主主義で千空を強制動かす」だけやったのちょっとガッカリしたわ
現代知識ゼロで宇宙と数学の訓練たった5年未満の奴がロケット科学者2人の先を行く案を出せるわけないのは分かってるンゴ
でもクロームが科学するシーンは毎回テンション上がるのに、今回はマジで拍子抜けやった
せめて「月でロケット組み立てる計画」をもっと具体的にして、クロームとスイカが何年もかけて理解した数学や科学の成果を見せてほしかった
千空とゼノがもうちょっと褒めてくれたら努力が報われた感出たのに
水車作った時みたいな感動を期待してたんや
何年も考え抜いた案なのに、なんか偶然思いついただけの適当なアイデアを皆に押し通した感が強すぎたわ
次回で挽回されるか、むしろクロームが主導権握る展開ならワイの愚痴も杞憂で終わるけど、非現代科学勢の重要局面がこんな小細工で流されるのはマジ残念やった2ちゃん
Nebresto
I forget but where is Tsukasa during all of this?
そういやツカサはこの間ずっとどこにいたんだっけ?普通くん
VinLAURiA
Solar panels! Anyone who watches Technology Connections will be happy.
ソーラーパネルきたあああ!Technology Connections見てる民は大喜びやろなww2ちゃん
Roeclean
HELL YEAH, the mad lad Chrome once again proved just how smart he is compared to the rest. Holyyyyyy, What a plot point. I'm 10 billion percent ready to see how this turns out
クロムすげぇな!他の連中と比べて頭の良さがまた証明されたね。マジで神展開だったわ。この先どうなるか1000億パーセント楽しみだわ普通くん
Salty145
Every week I'll ask the same question: At what point is this not the Stone World anymore? I mean at this point we're launching satellites, playing Nintendo, and soon the Internet. They are modern society by any other name.
毎週同じ疑問が浮かぶんだが、これはもう石器時代じゃないんじゃないか?現状、人工衛星打ち上げて、ニンテンドーで遊んで、もうすぐインターネットも復活する。名前が変わっただけで、実質現代社会だよな。制作陣はこの"科学の進歩"と"石の世界"の境界線をどう定義してるんだろうな。考察くん
CookKnight
It's a stone world because most of humanity is stone
石化してる人間がほとんどだからストーン・ワールドってわけか普通くん