+434
FoolingFinality
"Those who control media, controls everything" - is such a dangerous line of thought.
「メディアを制する者は、全てを制す」——この言葉、実に危険極まりない考えでござるな。武士+125
Boris-_-Badenov
fairly accurate
「メディアを制する者が全てを制す」って考え、確かに結構リアルだよね。怖いくらい的を射てると思う。普通くん+77
PowerOhene
Tangent;
Wasn't the first TV made in the UK and not Japan? or I'm a trippin'
確かに！最初のテレビってイギリス製だよな？日本のじゃないし。俺の記憶違いじゃなければだけど。感情くん+14
time_axis
The Japan one was the first CRT as we know them, apparently. The one in the UK was more like a series of spinning discs or something.
ふむ、英国のものは回転円盤の集まりのような代物で、日本のが我々の知るCRTの元祖であるらしい。某も勉強になり申した。武士+35
BosuW
Bro already trying to manufacture consent in the stone world 😭
(震え声)石の世界で既に世論操作を始めるとは…我が宿敵よ、その危険な思想こそが新たなる支配の鍵か。だが真理を操る者こそが真の支配者…笑えぬ冗談よ。中二病+27
Alter_Kyouma
Guys, we need to invade the moon. They totally have weapons of mass destruction.
草、月に侵略しようとしてる奴がいるのかよw
「奴らは大量破壊兵器を持ってる」って言い訳ワロタw
確かに科学でなんとかできそうだけど、まじかよwwwwwwおじ+18
BosuW
And if they don't, they soon will! Trust!
それなッ！今はなくてもすぐに持つぞ、間違いない！信じろッ！感情くん+7
justking1414
Can you say, state mandated propaganda?
まじそれな！「メディアを支配する者が全てを支配する」って台詞やばすぎだし、国家が仕組んだプロパガンダって感じじゃね？笑ギャル+20
Kadmos1
Even in the Lower 48, the fact that so few media companies own so much media is a possible sign of anti-trust laws not being what they used to be.
せやな、アメリカ本土でもメディア寡占がヤバすぎて、反トラスト法が昔ほど機能してない証拠やろな。2ちゃん+10
The_Parsee_Man
Very close to having a Mel Gibson moment there.
「メル・ギブソン的なやばい発言しそうになってるやん…危なすぎるッ！」感情くん+6
Boris-_-Badenov
"welcome back to the world"
"now get to work in our forced labor camp"
「世界にようこそ」
「ついでに強制労働キャンプで働けや」
草2ちゃん+101
The_Parsee_Man
Knew it reminded me of something.
やはりな…我が記憶が呼び覚まされた。この感覚、まさに運命の輪が再び回り始めたのだ。中二病+20
Ree_For_Thee
They seem to have an economy.
「それな！経済はちゃんと回ってるっぽいじゃん！でも強制労働キャンプって表現やばくね笑」ギャル+9
Mexander98
this is speculation, but maybe the medusa defaults to it's basic program from when it arrived from space when it was in vacuum for a certain amount of time? it was one that fell on the island originally and only petrified a short radius around it originally right?
まあ憶測だが、メデューサが真空中で一定時間経つと宇宙から来た時の基本プログラムに戻るって可能性はあるな。元々島に落ちたやつは周辺だけ石化させてたしな。ドライおじ+65
MrBloodyshadow
That would make sense as a defense mechanism, if you try to use it as a weapon on the Moon it would activate it before you try to use it if you pull it in space, and you might not even hear the click.
それ防御機構としてなら納得できるな。月で武器として使おうとしたら、宇宙空間で引っ張った時点で発動しちゃうってわけか。しかもクリック音すら聞こえないかもしれないし。普通くん+32
lelantos-sh
If you have noticed, the Medusa triggered as soon as Yo-chan uttered "Something Something Meters", I wonder if "something something" is key here
それな。Yoちゃんが「なんちゃらメートル」って言った瞬間にメデューサ起動したの気づいたわ。つまり「なんちゃら」がキーワードなんじゃね？ガチでワイら気づかんかったわ草2ちゃん+25
InfernoVulpix
The medusa was in a vacuum, though. No matter what Yo said, the medusa shouldn't have been able to hear anything.
確かに、メデューサは真空状態にあったんだよね。だからヨーちゃんが何を言っても、メデューサには聞こえないはずなんだよな。普通くん+19
goffer54
It wasn't suspended in the vacuum. The medusa could have "heard" it through the vibrations coming from the case.
確かに！メデューサは真空の中にあったけど、ケースの振動で「聞こえてた」可能性あるよね！Yoの言う通りだと思うッ！感情くん+8
NoNameSwitzerland
Or X meter in Roman numbers would be 10.
「Xメートル」ってローマ数字の10ってことか。つまりヨーちゃんが「なんとかメートル」って言った瞬間にメデューサが反応したってことは…ワイの予想が当たってたンゴwww 草2ちゃん+9
saga999
原文
So the medusa lit up, the glass broke, and the medusa activates to petrify a short distance.
Since it's in a vacuum, it's not voice that activated it to cause it to light up the first time. I think it's from detecting it's in a vacuum. So I'm with you on this.
The glass broke. The shards are outside, not inside the glass container. If the glass couldn't handle the air pressure, then there would be shards inside. So I think the forces are applied from inside. The only thing inside was the medusa. So I think the medusa did something to break the glass. But how? It cannot be sound wave since it's a vacuum.
Why petrified just a short distance? If it's in a vacuum, then it's either in space or locked up in a vacuum. There's no reason petrify in space. So if it's to avoid being locked up in a vacuum, why does it matter? There's no reason to avoid it not being able to be voice activated. It's not like the Why-man are using voice to remotely activate it. Also, why does it need to break the glass to begin with? Perhaps the petrifying ray only works within an atmosphere... wait, to petrify the entire earth, the ray's radius would have to cover the diameter of the earth. Then there should be a green sphere with the radius of the diameter of earth that extends well into space, centered at the medusa's location. But we've only seen green light cover the earth when earth was petrified. So I think the atmosphere is necessary for the petrifying ray to work. Then the glass break could be to unlock itself from a vacuum. And the following petrifying could be a test to make sure it still works.
And if the petrifying ray only works with an atmosphere, then it wouldn't work on the moon unless it's inside a base with air.
メデューサが光ってガラスが割れ、短距離だけ石化した件だけど、真空だから声で起動したわけじゃないんだよね。俺も真空検知説に賛成だ。
ガラスの破片が外側にあるってことは内側から力が加わった証拠で、中のメデューサが何かしたんだろう。でも真空だから音波じゃないしな。
短距離だけ石化した理由だけど、真空状態から脱出するためじゃないかな。石化光線は大気がないと効かない可能性が高い。だからガラスを割って真空を抜け出し、動作確認で短距離石化したんだと思う。
もし石化光線が大気依存なら、月では基地内じゃないと使えないってことになるね。普通くん+7
ObvsThrowaway5120
They’re bringing back the classics! Not Tetris, Not Pac-Man, Not Space Invaders, and Not Pong lol. With TV and TV cameras now established, Ryusui’s the biggest media mogul in the Stone World. I mean he’s the *only* media mogul in the Stone World lol.
Can’t wait to see the gang launch the Stone World’s first satellite. Why-Man gettin nervous on the moon I bet lol.
クラシックが帰ってきた！テトリスでもパックマンでもスペースインベーダーでもポンでもないけどな笑。テレビとテレビカメラが確立された今、龍水は石の世界で最大のメディア王だ。いや、唯一のメディア王ってわけか笑。石の世界初の人工衛星を打ち上げるチームが見られるのが待ちきれない。Why-Man、月でビビってるんじゃないかな笑。考察くん+63
JapanPhoenix
> and Not Pong
You got the others right but this one was Breakout#Gameplay)
草、PongじゃなくてBreakoutやったンゴwww
「他は合ってるけどPongは違うで、Breakoutやぞ」ってツッコミ入っててワロタｗ2ちゃん+39
Arzhart
I mean, it's definitely not pong!!!
確かに、pongじゃないのは間違いないね！普通くん+27
The_Parsee_Man
Technically correct, the best kind of correct.
まじそれな！確かに間違ってはないってやつじゃん笑ギャル+16
NoNameSwitzerland
When I was young 40 years ago, that was a kind of game I programmed on the ColorGenie2000. A 8bit computer with 32kb RAM (16+16 extension). So far less then they stone age computer, but maybe a little bit faster. And not with punch card, but with cassette tape and a basic compiler.
40年前に子供の頃、ColorGenie2000でそういうゲームをプログラムしたんだ。32KB RAM（16+16拡張）の8ビットパソコンで、石紀のコンピュータよりはるかに容量少なかったけど、もしかしたらちょっと速かったかもね。パンチカードじゃなくて、カセットテープとベーシックコンパイラ使ってたよ。普通くん+7
Salty145
This seems like the worst version on Tetris tbh with blocks that have holes in the middle of them.
それな！真ん中に穴あいてるブロックとかテトリスとして最悪すぎるッ！絶対ハマるだけだろこれw感情くん+7
VinLAURiA
It's more of a Hexis anyway.
確かに、どっちかっていうとヘクシスに近いよね。普通くん+6
NanDemoKnaives
原文
They're really just recreating anything they think up at this point lol, it's hard to suspend my disbelief. I think the pacing being so fast is what not helping, but I think it's because they're trying to wrap up the series.
The petrification device activating is an interesting mystery, I didn't even think of someone sabotaging, I was thinking maybe Why Man had created some sort of setting because it was sealed.
まあ、今となっては思いついたものは何でも再現してるだけだよな。さすがに現実味が薄れてきた。ペースが速すぎるのが原因だろうけど、シリーズを畳もうとしてるんだろうな。
石化装置が起動した件は面白い謎だな。誰かの妨害だとは思わなかった。俺は「なぜ人」が封印された時に何か設定したんじゃないかと考えてたよ。ドライおじ+45
BlackSCrow
I've been suspending my disbelief probably since the start of Stone Wars lol. There's no way they could make steam engine works reliably in a stone world.
確かに、石の世界で蒸気機関が安定して動くわけないよな。俺もStone Warsの頃からツッコミどころは放置してるわ笑普通くん+33
LakerBlue
Season 3 for me. The way they built drill on the spot to dig under ground, the speed of building that pulley and zipline system, etc. Granted some of those are more about disbelief they had the tools/resources to build them as quickly and effectively as they did.
Honestly now that I think of it the first major wtf invention was actually the pseudo cryostasis pod at the end of S2 iirc.
3期だな。あの場で即席で掘削用ドリルを組み立てたり、滑車やジップラインシステムを構築する速度とか、正直ツッコミどころは多かった。とはいえ、あれらは持ってる工具や資源であれだけ迅速かつ効率的に作れたことへの違和感が大きいんだが。
よく考えると、最初の「マジかよ」発明は2期終盤の疑似冷凍保存ポッドだったな。考察くん+8
MobileWriting9165
The moment they crossed the Dunbar number for revived humans all bets about realism were off. There is no universe where humans even in the same place would collaborate so easily and unquestioningly without conflict, let alone humans from all across the world.
せやな、ダンバー数超えた時点でリアリティとか知らんがな。全世界から集まった人間が無条件に協力するとか、ワイには無理やわwww2ちゃん+25
MMinjin
They could be having lots of conflict. By now, they probably would have systems of government in place. They just aren't showing it because it isn't a politics kind of show.
確かに！まじで政治的な話とかめんどくさくなっちゃうし、そういうの省いてるだけじゃん？笑 このアニメはあくまで科学バトルがメインってことね〜ギャル+15
Erufailon4
I've long accepted that Dr Stone is a fantasy series, just one built on top of scientific principles. But even then... turns out that it's a lot easier to accept when they're not talking about the field you're personally familiar with. When Sai went "I can write a simple game like this in a single line of code" my reaction was just a flat out "no you can't".
せやな、ワイもDr.STONEはファンタジー作品やと割り切っとるわ。科学の理論ベースではあるけどな。でもな、自分の専門分野やと話が別やねん。サイが「こんな簡単なゲームならワンラインで書けるわ」とか言うた時は、マジで「いや無理やろ」って突っ込んでもうたわwww2ちゃん+28
GezelligPindakaas
原文
Indeed.
I think there are some liberties taken here. For starters, they are using punch cards, so what does even 'line of code' mean here? The most logical is to think they are using some sort of assembly, and every operation is a line, so impossible. Assuming a modern high level language, it's possible to abuse spacing and cram everything in a single long line. So, technically possible, but unlikely to be the case.
Having said that, Tetris logic (and same the others shown) is surprisingly simple when it comes to actual code, and very easily translatable to single assembly operations. You can have functional clones in less than 1 Kb. Simple and ugly, granted, but in general it's always assets that take space.
確かに。
Dr.STONEは科学的なファンタジーだってのはもう受け入れてるけど、それでもな…
この辺はかなりご都合主義だと思うよ。まずパンチカード使ってる時点で「コードの行数」って概念が曖昧だし、アセンブリ言語なら一行一命令が基本で事実上不可能。高級言語ならスペースを詰めて一行に収めるのは技術的には可能だけど、現実的じゃない。
ただ、テトリス（と他のゲーム）のロジックはコードにすると驚くほど単純で、アセンブリレベルでも変換しやすい。1KB未満で動くクローンもあるしね。見た目はしょぼいけど、容量食うのは大抵アセットの方だし。普通くん+15
LakerBlue
原文
The most physical prowess of Kohaku, the gymnast, and Tsukasa were honestly the first hints of fantasy. I took some of it as an exaggerated display of something possible for the sake of fun or cool (the gymnast back flipping up the tree) at first but then I remember last season Kohaku jumped over a chasm that was just not possible and was like “uh…ok. That would be an impossible leap for a Kangaroo, let alone a human”.
せやな、コハクとツカサの身体能力は最初からファンタジーの片鱗やったわ。木をバックフリップで駆け上がるのは「演出やろ」って流してたけど、前シーズンで峡谷飛び越えた時は「カンガルーでも無理やろ」って草生えたンゴwww2ちゃん+7
Rolder
Definitely feels like we're trying to speedrun to the ending. Timeskipping a whole ass dam is wild
確かに終盤に突入してる感じがすごいよね。ダムを丸ごとタイムスキップするのは流石にワイルドすぎるわ。普通くん+19
Zero5-4i
原文
I mean yea, the show does require suspension of disbelief a lot but being able to make more complex stuff more and more quickly is not weird. Provided they have the knowledge and the proper craftsmen, it makes sense. They are just applying basic concepts that they have "unlocked" already. These basic concepts took more time but as it has been stated many times already science progresses exponentially, so the complex stuff don't need as much time.
They definitely exaggerate how effectively they can make some things and how well they work with their objective, but the main core/theme of the show is not 100% scientific realism. Contrary, it fits well with one of its major themes which is "science is not magic, with proper knowledge and tools anyone can do it"
いや、確かにこの作品は現実離れした設定を多く受け入れなければならないけど、複雑な物をどんどん速く作れるようになるのは不自然じゃない。知識と適切な職人が揃っていれば理にかなってるんだ。彼らは既に「アンロック」した基本概念を応用しているだけ。その基本概念には時間がかかったが、作中で何度も言及されている通り科学は指数関数的に進歩するから、複雑な物にはそれほど時間がかからない。
ただし、目的に対してどれだけ効率的に物を作れるかという点は確かに誇張されている。だが、この作品の核となるテーマは100%科学的リアリズムではない。むしろ、「科学は魔法ではない、適切な知識と道具があれば誰にでもできる」という主要テーマに上手く適合しているんだ。考察くん+15
MMinjin
And the more people they wake up, the more expertise they will also find.
I do wish they showed everything looking a lot cruder and less polished. More like the first season. When they try to show technology that looks just like what we might recognize, that's usually when they go too far.
確かにね。目覚める人が増えれば専門知識も増えるってのは納得。
ただ、もっと粗くて洗練されてない感じで見せてほしかったな。第一期みたいにさ。現代のテクノロジーそのままに見える時は、さすがにやりすぎだと思う。普通くん+9
Huge_Ice5568
If I'm not mistaken, the chess scene at 9:48 is wrong because the King cannot do such moves and is likely interchanged with the Queen. The Queen is also at the spot where usally the King would be
やばくね！？9:48のチェスのシーン、キングの動きおかしくない？絶対クイーンと間違えてるじゃん！しかもクイーンが本来キングがいる場所にいるし笑ギャル+38
hammile
Yeah, the whole part about chess is messed. In your case, symbols for a queen and a king are swapped.
But previous part is more cringe:
- itʼs not lose but a stalemate: the king isnʼt under check but have no move;
- the chessboard on (at least) the screen is very bad, numbers and letter should be synchronized (as here);
- for some reason colours on the screen and board are swapped;
せやな、チェスのシーンは全体的にガバガバやわ。
- キングとクイーンの記号が逆になってるし
- 前のシーンも「負け」じゃなくてステイルメイトやろ。王手かかってないのに動けないだけやん
- 盤面の数字とアルファベットの位置もズレてて草
- スクリーンと実物の色が反転してるのも謎
スタッフ、チェスルール勉強し直してこいやwww2ちゃん+44
Salty145
literally unwatchable.
確かにチェスの部分はヤバすぎるッ！クイーンとキングの記号が逆とかマジでありえない。もう見るに耐えないレベルだわ。感情くん+15
justking1414
> itʼs not lose but a stalemate: the king isnʼt under check but have no move;
I thought that looked a little off, but I was more focused on Ryu’s claim that this basic chess ai running on punch cards was already smart enough to crush a skilled player. That seemed a bit off
確かに、チェックメイトじゃなくてステイルメイトだよね。王様がチェックされてないけど動けない状態。
俺も違和感あったけど、パンチカードで動く基本的なチェスAIがすでに熟練プレイヤーを倒せるほど賢いってリュウの主張の方に気を取られてたわ。あれもちょっとおかしいと思う。普通くん+8
BosuW
The version of the story I heard was the the AI got confused with the player's trap and so the pawn movement wasn't some sort of genius breakthrough but just something random. Although it did win the game thanks to that.
Admittedly I haven't corroborated it.
確かに、その逸話はよく知られているけど、実際はAIがプレイヤーの罠に混乱してポーンの動きが偶然の産物だったという説があるんだよな。結果的に勝利に繋がったとはいえ、天才的なブレイクスルーではなくランダムな行動だったという考察ができる。ただ、俺もその真偽は確認できてないけどな。考察くん+6
gary25566
It's Code Geass illegal chess scene all over again
草、またCode Geassの違法チェスシーンかよwww
確かにキングの動きおかしいンゴねぇ…2ちゃん+26
exian12
Why can't Japan do chess right? I don't think chess updated any patch notes to gameplay the whole 30 years I'm alive.
それな！チェスのルール変わってないのに日本アニメは毎回オリジナル展開すぎるッ！コードギアスもそうだったけど、今回のDr.STONEも「え、それチェスじゃなくない？」ってなるシーン多すぎて笑ったわ。感情くん+8
Salty145
They keep saying "they brought X to the stone world" but I do have to ask, how much modern tech do they need to bring into the stone world before it's not the stone world anymore?
「石の世界にXを持ち込んだ」って言うけど、どこまで現代技術を持ち込んだらもう石の世界じゃなくなるんだろうなって思うよ。普通くん+29
BosuW
This is definitely a steel world at this point
確かに！もう鋼の世界じゃんね笑
ていうか、どんだけ現代技術持ち込めば気が済むんだって感じだよね〜ギャル+28
Master3530
They have a pc but still live in shacks
確かにw PCあるのに小屋暮らしって草
でもそれがDr.STONEの面白いところだよな笑wwwおじ+17
Salty145
Look, RAM ain’t cheap these days. Something has to give.
確かに、RAM高いもんな。仕方ないよね。普通くん+23
ohoni
I mean, it is a PC with the power of a Famicom that's the size of a small house.
せやな、ファミコン並みの性能で家サイズのPCやからなwww そら小屋暮らしになるわ2ちゃん+5
Bakatora34
When they stop dressing like caveman with drip.
確かに、「石器時代の格好をやめた時」ってのは一理あるな。現代技術持ち込む前に見た目からだよな。普通くん+11
powerhcm8
Maybe it needs to be more widespread than just a few copies of each tech.
確かに！「石の世界に持ってきた」って言うけどさ、技術が一部の人だけにしか広まってないと意味なくね？もっとみんなに行き渡らせないとダメじゃん！ギャル+5
RaiyenZ
I thought they call it the stone world because people have been turned into stone
確かに「石の世界」って呼んでるのは人間が石化したからだよね。現代技術をどれだけ持ち込めるかは別問題って感じだな。普通くん+5
voltagejim
Are they gonna to be able to finish teh story with teh amount of episode left? They haven't even launched a satellite yet
もう話数足りるの？！まだ衛星すら打ち上げてないのに……マジで心配すぎるッ！感情くん+28
justking1414
I’m genuinely wondering if they’ll give us the AOT treatment and end things with a movie
まじでそれな！？残り話数でちゃんと終わるのかマジで気になるんだけど笑
衛星すらまだ打ち上げてないし、進撃の巨人みたいに映画で終わらせるパターン来るんじゃね？ギャル+30
abilworldwide
There's still an epilogue after the end of the source material, so it's most likely going to get the MHA treatment
確かに原作終わった後もエピローグあるしな
ワイもMHA方式でいくと思うわ
劇場版で終わらせるとかはなさそうやろ2ちゃん+19
zool714
原文
Ooo do we have a mole ? Or is this some big brain move by Why Man somehow activating Medusa
Yeah, doubt we’d go too deep into how the increase in population would inevitably lead to some wanting to split off doing their own thing or disagreeing with Senku’s group. But it is a good chance to reintroduce mass media
I do enjoy things now and know we’re in the final stretch, but I do miss the times when we take it slow with the extraction, production, manufacturing of all the different creations. And the flowchart too
お、まさか内通者か？それともホワイマンがメデューサを起動させる超絶策の一環なのかな
確かに、人口増加でセングたちと意見が合わず独立したい連中がでる話には深く踏み込まないだろうな。でもマスメディア再導入のいい機会ではあるね
今は楽しんでるし最終章ってわかってるけど、色んな発明品の採取・生産・製造をじっくりやってた頃が懐かしいな。あとフローチャートも。普通くん+22
Boris-_-Badenov
could be because it was in a vacuum
ワイもそう思うわ。真空状態やったからやろな。2ちゃん+36
hoof_hearted4
this was my assumption. Being in a vaccum triggers it somehow.
確かに真空状態が何か引き金になってるって俺も思ってたわ普通くん+16
GezelligPindakaas
But that's the thing. Soundwaves can't travel through vacuum, so the Medusa couldn't hear it.
確かに！でも音波は真空中を伝わらないから、メデューサには聞こえなかったんだよな…ッ！そこが伏線だったのか…エモすぎる！感情くん+9
LeonKevlar
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So the gang didn't just reintroduce video games but also recreated modern television. I really like how we can see Minami back to doing her actual job before the petrification.
The Medusa activating on its own was pretty terrifying. I honestly thought that vacuum sealing the Medusa had something to do with it going off. I didn't even consider the fact that someone gave it a command with an extremely long delay. If that's the case, then who? I can't even imagine anyone working against them at this point.
みんながビデオゲームを復活させただけでなく、現代のテレビも再現したんだね。石化前のミナミが本来の仕事に戻ってる姿が見られてよかった。
メデューサが勝手に作動したのは結構怖かったな。真空パックにしたせいかと思ったけど、誰かが超長い遅延付きで命令を出した可能性は考えてなかった。だとすると誰が？もう誰も敵対してるとは思えないんだけど。普通くん+21
Meander061
>how we can see Minami back to doing her actual job before the petrification.
I'm watching the sub, and that line she has, in English and a Japanese accent, is hilarious.
確かに！ミナミが元の仕事に戻ってるの見れて嬉しすぎるッ！
吹替じゃなくて字幕で見てるんだけど、あの英語交じりの日本語アクセントのセリフ、笑い死にするかと思ったわ。無理すぎて優勝！感情くん+5
The_Parsee_Man
Since when did Magma learn to play guitar? At least he's found his calling, and that calling was Elvis.
えっマグマがギター弾けるようになったの！？笑 でもまあ自分の天職見つけたっぽいし、その天職がエルビスってのがまたやばくね！？ギャル+22
DeusVitae69
MY FAVE PART 😆
確かにマグマがギター弾けるようになったのはいつだよって感じだよね（笑）でもエルヴィス路線は結構ハマってると思う！俺もそのシーン大好き😆普通くん+9
LonelyAstronaut984
I think the hardest part to beloved in this whole story is not the progress in science and technology or how it's mostly a group of kids, but that all the humans they revived would follow all their instructions and not have a mental breakdown
この作品で最も信じ難い部分は、科学技術の進歩や主要メンバーがほぼ子供たちだということではなく、蘇生された全人類が彼らの指示に従い、精神崩壊を起こさなかった点だという考察ができる。考察くん+17
Meander061
I am literally handwaving any disturbing thoughts in that direction, because I've been expecting riots every time they start de-petrifying more people.
確かに、そこは完全にスルーしてるわ。俺も毎回「これ暴動起きるだろ」って思いながら見てた。普通くん+7
raidensnakeezio
Tsukasa's entire schtick was that adults could not be trusted - yet here we are reviving adults who are immediately subservient to these high school and college aged kids. I guess we have to hand wave it to move the plot along.
せやな、司の「大人は信用できねえ」ってスタンス完全にスルーしてるやん。高校生や大学生に即従う大人ども復活させてるし。まあ話進めるためにワイらも見逃すしかないンゴwww2ちゃん+5
Really_Angry_Muffin
Ironic that the episode about propaganda and A.I. being shed in a positive light coincides with the IRL events of Flock cameras everywhere and A.I. Datacenters consuming all the water and power.
確かに皮肉だよね。プロパガンダとAIをポジティブに描く回が、現実でFlockカメラが至る所に設置されてAIデータセンターが水と電力を使いまくってる時期と重なるって。普通くん+13
TokugawaShigeShige
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Tbf Deep Blue didn't use generative AI, just regular algorithms. You probably knew that already, just pointing out that it's a different technology than modern AI and doesn't come with most of the associated problems.
When I was in school, I wrote a program that could consistently beat me in Connect Four. It was a pretty small program and wasn't particularly complicated; its strength just came from a computer's ability to quickly evaluate thousands of possible branching outcomes. So imo portraying this kind of thing in a positive light is just pro-computer, not necessarily pro-AI.
That being said, Senku probably would be pro-AI lol
まあでもDeep Blueは生成AIじゃなくて単なるアルゴリズムやろ。ワイも知っとるけど、現代のAIとは別物やし、問題もあんまないっしょ。
ワイが学生の頃、コネクトフォーでワイに勝ち続けるプログラム書いたことあるンゴ。クソ小規模で大したことなかったけど、コンピュータが数千の分岐を瞬時に評価できるってだけや。つまり、こういうのをポジティブに描くのは「コンピュータ賛美」であって「AI賛美」とは限らんと思うわ。
つーか千空は絶対AI推進派やろな草2ちゃん+12
ChingChonger
Easter egg as a baseball fan Hyoga was wearing 17 for Ohtani and the outfielder was wearing 51 for Ichiro probably the two most famous Japanese baseball players this century!
野球ファンにはたまらない小ネタだね。氷河の背番号17は大谷、外野手の51はイチローだと思う。今世紀の日本野球界で最も有名な2人の選手ってわけ！普通くん+14
The_Parsee_Man
Did I just miss them calling it the SAL 9000 in the last episode?
Also, maybe you should have thought of taking the batteries out of your doomsday device when you weren't using it earlier.
「えっ、前回のエピソードでSAL 9000って呼んでたの見逃した！？ マジか！」
あとさ、終末装置使わない時にバッテリー抜いとくって発想、なんで早く思いつかなかったんだよ…しんどいわ。感情くん+12
thoughtlow
Didn't the medusa just trigger by Glen saying something meters something seconds. and it just did some default setting?
I mean it probably isn’t because story wise wouldn't make sense but felt that was weird.
あれってグレンが「メートル、秒」とか言っただけでメデューサが勝手に反応しただけちゃうん？
デフォルト設定で動いた感じやろ。
ストーリー的には意味わからんくなるから多分ちゃうと思うけど、なんか違和感あったわ。2ちゃん+10
hoof_hearted4
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So did the anime just forget about Tsukasa? I dont think we've seen him once so far. He was quickly shown a couple of episodes ago when Senku mentioned the Moon Team would petrify there waiting for a rescue some day (It showed him, Tsukasa and Ryusei), but I think thats it. We dont even get like quick pictures to show him. I forget where he was even. The show (and maybe this is the manga too idk) has dropped so many characters it seems in order to burn through to the end.
確かに、ツカサの描写が完全にフェードアウトしているのは気になるポイントだ。センクが月面チームについて語った回想シーンで一瞬映っただけだよな。制作陣が終盤に向けてキャラを絞っているのは明白で、おそらく原作でも同様の展開だろう。ツカサの現在地すら曖昧なままなのは、伏線として後で回収される可能性もあるが、単に物量に押されてカットされたとも考察できる。考察くん+9
Querez
No, that was Mozu
違う、あれはモズやで2ちゃん+7
Burnouts3s3
"Whoever controls the media, controls the world!"
...Wait a minute...
「メディアを制する者が世界を制す！」
……ちょっと待てよ……普通くん+8
GezelligPindakaas
_"Now that we're reviving so many people, we need a way to control them. Behold, tv!"_
「大量復活させた今、どーやって統制するか考えなきゃな。ほれ、テレビや！」草www ワイもそう思うンゴ2ちゃん+10
docBrownn1985
... and in 500 years some people will be speculating that "this dam was build by aliens / with alien tech, because these primitives couldn't do that by themself" ... o.O
確かに500年後には「このダムは原始人には無理だからエイリアンの技術で作られた」って言われそうだな…ｗ普通くん+8
Nesp2
Crazy episode.
Do we have a mole in the Stone world?
Also, I can't believe we now have sports games being broadcasted live in "pubs".
やばすぎる回ッ！まさか石の世界に内通者がいるのかよッ！？
しかも「酒場」でスポーツの生中継が流れてるのマジでエモすぎる優勝感情くん+6
SopmodTew
Media Monopoly 🤣
メディア独占って草wwww2ちゃん+7
Doomroar
Dr Stone is a Baseball anime
「Dr.STONEは野球アニメだったんだな」って感じだね普通くん+8
_CALIFORNIUM98
Media Tycoon of Rusui. Those who control the media control everything. So true. TVs one of best source of entertainment, glad the stone world got one. Great hearing It’s all yours again, makes you feel said the anime is ending soon.
ルスイのメディア王かよ草。メディア掌握する奴が全てを支配するってマジやな。TVって最高の娯楽源やん、石の世界にTVあって良かったわ。「全部お前のものだ」また聴けるのは感慨深いンゴ…アニメ終わっちゃうの悲しすぎるンゴwww2ちゃん+7
CrimsonGear80
Eh, I think I’ll wait for the SAL 9000 Slim.
うーん、俺はSAL 9000 Slimまで待つかな。普通くん+5
