放送 2026-07-12更新 2026-07-16
WhoiusBarrel
You seemed busy with Elinalise Cliff is a Goddamned monster.
Elinaliseと忙しそうだったなw Cliffはマジでとんでもない怪物だわwwwwwwおじ
DarkenVragon
For sure. Reminder this is the same Elinalise that took on several guys at the same time while looking for Paul's family. Cliff has monstrous stamina to be able to satisfy her lol
確かに。Paulの家族探し中に複数人を相手にしてたElinaliseだし、満足させるCliffのスタミナ化け物だなw普通くん
shad79
Cliff has monstrous stamina to be able to satisfy her lol You know, now that I think about it after watching today's episode ... if they can make a prosthetic hand that works just like a normal one , then why not also create a prosthetic of something else? Maybe Cliff took steps in that direction in order to satisfy Elinalise? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Cliffの体力、Elinaliseを満足させるとか化け物級だなw 義手が作れるなら“別の義肢”も…という考察ができる( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)考察くん
HandicapperGeneral
Wouldn't help. She needs jizz, not orgasms. Cliff's research is more focused on making a tool that can suppress or remove her curse altogether. Like the chastity belt prototype they showed before the labyrinth arc.
意味ないやろ。あいつに必要なんはオーガズムやなく精液や。Cliffの研究は呪い抑える道具作り寄りやな。迷宮編前の貞操帯試作みたいなやつ。2ちゃん
Kazesama13k
Hahaha. Bdw how do you make that face?
ははは。てか、その顔どうやって作るの?普通くん
sucr4m
like this: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
こんな感じッ!( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯感情くん
Kazesama13k
-_- that's the best I can do.
-_- これが俺にできる精一杯だよ。普通くん
shad79
Just copy ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) and paste it into your comments. There's even a website for it 😆
その( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)をコピーしてコメントへ貼るだけでござる。専用のサイトまであるゆえな😆武士
Frontier246
She may have a massive body count but it's sex with the person she truly loves that means the most to her. (Also she's probably done it every way imaginable so she knows how to keep their sex life special)
経験人数はすごいかもだけど、本当に愛する相手との行為こそ彼女に一番大事なんだろうね。経験豊富だし特別感も出せそう。普通くん
PassivelyAwkward
Yup! She probably knows exactly what she wants and with Cliff being a very studious person, he's probably got an entire book detailing his improvements.
そうだな。彼女は欲しいものを分かってるんだろう。Cliffも勉強家だし、改善点を一冊にまとめてそうだな。ドライおじ
CitronClassic672
Man’s bout to write this world’s version of the Kamasutra, lol.
こいつ、この世界版カーマ・スートラ書きそうじゃん笑ギャル
Mundology
Thus began the legend of Cliff the Stallion
こうして“種馬”Cliffの伝説が始まったわけだなドライおじ
Kirosh2
He knows what he has to do to make sure she never go look at others.
彼女が他に目移りしないように、何をすべきかちゃんと分かってるんだね。普通くん
El_grandepadre
Rudeus, Cliff, Zanoba. The Monster Trio at home.
Rudeus、Cliff、Zanoba。怪物トリオのおうち版って感じwwwwおじ
Aftertone-
He actually doesnt have the stamina. He just doesnt quit.
あいつ実はスタミナないんよ。ただ絶対やめへんだけや。2ちゃん
chhuang
"I can fix her". And actually, as a chad, fixing her
「俺ならあの子を変えられる」って言って、実際にやってるのまじチ Chad すぎじゃん!ギャル
Ebo87
Cliff is him, no way around it.
Cliff、マジで“本物”すぎるッ!異論なし。感情くん
_lowpoint
The only way to fix someone is to believe there's nothing wrong :^)
誰かを治す唯一の方法は、そもそも何も問題ないって信じることだね :^)普通くん
CitronClassic672
Nothing about “her” to fix, just had to fix the curse affecting her.
「彼女」自身を直す必要なんてない!彼女にかかってた呪いを解くだけだったんだよ…!感情くん
JzanderN
He was definitely limping to class the next day. Something tells me Rudy could have come back hours later and still would have found them busy.
翌日、彼は絶対足引きずって授業に来てたな。Rudyが何時間後に戻っても、まだ真っ最中だった気がする。普通くん
LakerBlue
I would love a short OVA showing their first time together and how he was afterwards because I just know that he was the dried skeleton meme no matter how much stamina he has lmao
OVAで初夜とその後の彼見たいわ。体力どんだけあっても絶対あの干からびた骸骨ミームになってるやろ草2ちゃん
actionfirst1
Bro didn't deny it
アイツ否定しなかったじゃん笑ギャル
Cryogenx37
Elinalise the Cliffbanger
Cliffを食っちゃうElinalise普通くん
Bitter_Marzipan_8348
Well his faith specifically said "1 wife only", not "don't fuck wife". There was never a limit cap on that (cause most of them would not have married a nympho like Elinalise)
まあ彼の信仰は「妻は1人だけ」ってだけで「妻とヤるな」じゃない!回数制限なんてないッ!(Elinalise級は別)感情くん
MiyabiMain95
Well I mean we kinda knew that from the first episode of the show when Paul and Zenith were fucking almost daily
まあそれは第1話の時点でなんとなく分かってたよね。PaulとZenith、ほぼ毎日ヤってたし。普通くん
Frontier246
He has to catch up on all the time he lost with her and also make sure she forgets any of her one-night-stands she had.
彼は彼女と失った時を取り戻し、一夜限りの相手など忘れさせねばならぬでござる。武士
Rabbitey-
He's also the homie for helping Rudy with his disability. And yeah, Cliff might secretly be the Stamina God.
Rudyの障害を助けてくれたし、マジでいい奴だよね。あとCliff、実はスタミナ神かもしれない。普通くん
Amauri14
No, he is a hero, making sure Elinalise will follow Milis' teachings.
否、彼は英雄なのだ。ElinaliseがMilisの教えに従うよう、運命の鎖を結んでいるのだ。中二病
imtherealdazza
Man, it's heartbreaking seeing Zenith like this. You just know she would be so ecstatic seeing Rudy with a granddaughter, you can bet your ass she wouldve given him 100 lectures with having multiple wives
いや、こんなZenith見るのつらすぎる。Rudyに孫娘ができたら絶対大喜びだし、複数妻の件で100回説教してたと思う。普通くん
Se7en_Sinner
Rudeus really is speedrunning life. He already has two wives at his age. Most people also don't struggle with a parent experiencing with dementia-like symptoms at his age.
Rudeus、まこと人生を疾走攻略しておるな。この歳で妻が二人。さらに親の認知症めいた異変まで背負う者など、そうはいないのだ。中二病
Frontier246
And he's still got that Yumi Uchiyama voice even at his age!
しかもこの歳でもまだYumi Uchiyamaボイスなの最高すぎるッ!感情くん
Lugia61617
Hearing his higher pitched voice and seeing his jacked body throws me for a loop. Not so much when he's wearing clothes but any time he's topless it's a hilarious gap.
高めの声なのに体がムキムキで毎回混乱する。服着てる時はまだいいけど、上半身裸だとギャップが面白すぎる。普通くん
AceSoldia
Yeah I wish they had a deeper voice for him when he's older like this..
わかる…この年齢ならもっと低い声にしてほしかったッ…惜しい…感情くん
Lugia61617
Similar virtue, I really wish his mental self whenever he saw Hitogami either slowly or entirely changed into Rudeus. It's kind of weird that he's lived a whole successful life but his inner thoughts and sense of self are still the fat hikikomori he used to be. Although granted we've not seen that version of him in a little while.
同じ意味で、Hitogamiに会う時の精神体もRudeusになってほしかった。成功した人生送ってるのに、自己像が昔の太った引きこもりのままなのは変だよね。普通くん
Jacob-C
Although granted we've not seen that version of him in a little while. That's the thing, I think he is supposed to have disassociated a bit from his former self by this point. However, both his outward voice and his inner voice are so iconic that I feel like they are reluctant to change them, even if it fits the story better to do so.
とはいえ、あの頃の彼はしばらく見てない。今は旧来の自分から少し解離した段階という考察ができる。ただ声が象徴的すぎて変えづらいんだと思う。考察くん
Mistral-Fien
There was mention last season that Yumi Uchiyama actually had to audition again for Rudeus-- she had to prove that she could adjust her voice to match him growing up.
前シーズンで言ってたけど、Yumi UchiyamaってRudeus役またオーディション受けたんだよね。成長に合わせて声変えられるって証明するために!ギャル
Astray
Gonna be honest, it might be okay for depression arc and even the beginning of the Magic University, but it just doesn't work any more.
正直、鬱編や魔法大学の序盤ならまだよかったかもだけど、もう今は通用しないと思う。普通くん
BuckeyeBentley
I feel like they're saving changing his inner monologue voice for a big moment, maybe even the series finale. It would be a huge emotional win for Rudy.
内心の声が変わるの、たぶん大事な場面まで温存してる気がする!最終回とかさ。Rudy的には感情の大勝利じゃん!ギャル
Abedeus
Rudeus: "I no longer like you after the father thing." Man-God: "You're nothing without me!" Rudeus: "No..." changes voice "I'm the Mushoku Tensei." title card
Rudeus「父さんの件からもう嫌いだ」Man-God「俺なしじゃ無力だ!」Rudeus「違う…」声変わり「俺がMushoku Tenseiだ」タイトル出たァ!感情くん
CitronClassic672
He was 34 when he got isekaid and is only about 20 here iirc. I suspect his internal voice and mental image of himself will change once he reaches that age of his live again, because at that point he’ll have lived more of his life as Rudy than his past self.
異世界転生時は34歳で、今のRudyはたしか20歳くらい。前世の年齢に追いついたら、内面の声や自己像も変わりそう。普通くん
Montgomery000
He's been his old self a lot longer than he has been Rudy, so maybe it'll change after that point in his life.
前世の自分でいた時間の方がRudyよりずっと長いし、その年齢を越えたら変わるのかもね…!感情くん
DanielAlves1904
When he started talking, I thought they finally gave him a grown-man voice. Turned out it´s still his other voice.
話し始めた時、ついに大人の男の声になったかと思ったら、結局まだあの別の声だった。普通くん
Cass0wary_399
It’s weird that Rudeus still got a permanent baby face. He’s getting closer to Paul’s age when he had him.
Rudeus、ずっと童顔固定なの違和感あるわ。もうPaulがRudeusできた頃の年齢に近いんやろ。2ちゃん
Lugia61617
His mother had stronger genes than we thought
あいつの母親の遺伝子、思ってたより強かったじゃん!ギャル
PassivelyAwkward
Yea, especially starting the narration with his deep earth voice and then out comes the feminine voice. Was hoping we'd get a VA change at some point but if it hasn't happened now, we'll be getting a Rudy with grandkids and still sounding a kid.
冒頭ナレは渋い低音なのに、喋ると女声なの草。声優変更期待してたけど、孫できても子供声のRudyやろこれ。2ちゃん
TheJunkyardDog
Listening to him talking with the voice of a teen girl pretending to be a dude in contrast to cliffs voice is... weird af
Cliffの声と比べて、彼が男のフリしてる十代女子みたいな声で話してるの聞くと…めっちゃ変な感じだな普通くん
Bitter_Marzipan_8348
This dude beat Luke in a 1v1 man, what did you expect? He probably could command grab him if needed as well
こいつLukeにタイマンで勝った男やぞ、何を期待してたんや?必要ならコマ投げもできそうやしな2ちゃん
khoa-bear
He got that Goku genes
こいつGokuの遺伝子持ってるだろッ!感情くん
ChampionshipKnown969
原文
Most people also don't struggle with a parent experiencing with dementia-like symptoms at his age. I gotta disagree. My grandpa got diagnosed with Alzheimers when I was 10. He taught me to play chess and would draw caricatures of me and my siblings all the time. Once he was diagnosed, I never formed another meaningful memory with him again . Also, my grandma died before him. It was devastating because he'd ask where his wife was and relive her death over and over. Dementia is literally a fate worse than death. The only solace is that they are unaware of their own state and slowly fade away. I am going to sound like a horrible person for saying this, but I'm sure anyone can relate thats experienced it themselves... All they are is an empty vessel that you have to maintain. They can eat, poop and pee, but even need help with all of those, and no longer contribute anything meaningful. I watched a marriage fall apart before my eyes due to the strain, both financial and physical, that were endured by my aunt and uncle. Sorry for the rant. I'd just say it doesn't really matter the age - it is worse than stage 4 cancer given the fact that their coherence is essentially that of an infant, or worse.
ほとんどの人はあの年で親が認知症みたいな症状に苦しむことはないよね。でも俺は反対。祖父は俺が10歳の時にアルツハイマーと診断された。それ以降まともな思い出は作れなかった。認知症は死より辛い運命だよ。年齢は関係ない、末期がんより酷い。長々ごめん。普通くん
JzanderN
It feels like Zenith's somewhere in there the way she acts sometimes, but for the most part it's just heartbreaking. you can bet your ass she wouldve given him 100 lectures with having multiple wives She was a follower of Millis like Cliff, so she absolutely would have. Rudy would have gotten off easy with just 100 lectures.
Zenithの中身たまに残ってそうで、基本つらすぎる。Millis信徒でCliffと同じやし、嫁複数とかRudy説教100回でも甘いやろ。2ちゃん
Frontier246
原文
It feels like Zenith's somewhere in there the way she acts sometimes, but for the most part it's just heartbreaking. You can definitely tell she seems sensitive to Norn's presence around her. Sadder that it's not her firstborn too, but it's a start. She was a follower of Millis like Cliff, so she absolutely would have. Rudy would have gotten off easy with just 100 lectures. Also Rudy basically did the same thing to Sylphie that Paul did to her. Like, yeah, she accepted it and things turned out okay at the time but that would still sting.
・ゼニスの行動見てると時々まだ中にいる感じもするけど、大部分は切ないよね。ノルンの存在には敏感みたい
・長女じゃないのは悲しいけど、これも一歩だね
・ミリス教徒だからきっと説教してたはず。ルディは100回説教で済んで軽かったな
・ルディもパウロと同じことシルフィにしてるんだよな。受け入れられたとはいえチクッとくる普通くん
esuil
Also Rudy basically did the same thing to Sylphie that Paul did to her. I would not say it was the same, exactly, since Sylphie is not a Millis follower (do non-humans that follow Millis even exist in the first place?).
あとRudyもPaulが彼女にしたのとほぼ同じことSylphieにしてるよな。全く同じではないけど、SylphieはMillis信徒じゃないしな。2ちゃん
Irishimpulse
原文
Also people forget that Sylphie told him he was fine to get a second wife after they were married, Rudy scoffed at the idea but Sylphie gave him the greenlight because she knows how he is, and she was worried that because it's hard to get an elf pregnant, he'd have better luck getting a child from a second wife. She later realized Rudy was just him and overcame an incredibly low fertility rate in what is factually record time
結婚後にSylphieが第二夫人OKを出してたのも重要。Rudyは一蹴したが、彼女は体質的に子が難しい不安を踏まえていた。結局Rudyは記録級で突破したわけだが。考察くん
ShinJiwon
Mana propelled sperm ( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°) ͡°)
魔力推進の精子www ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)感情くん
DivinityPen
Rudeus went to the Fate school of mana transfer
Rudeus、魔力供給をFate流でやってたな普通くん
ThrowColle
And the whole fact that paul literally cheated on her. Rudeus asked for permission
しかもPaulはガチで浮気してたやん。Rudeusはちゃんと許可取ってたしな2ちゃん
Al-Pharazon
原文
You can definitely tell she seems sensitive to Norn's presence around her. Sadder that it's not her firstborn too, but it's a start. It makes sense, she had parted with Norn during the mana incident 6-7 years ago. She got taller, but it is still very much a child. Rudeus on the other hand left her when he was a 6 year old and now that she meets him again, he is very much a young adult that looks like a less muscular Paul. They have been separated from each other that long
ノルンがそばにいることに敏感になってるのが分かるね。第一子じゃないのは切ないけど、まあ始まりだよ。6~7年前の転移事件で別れたわけだし。ノルンは背は伸びたけどまだ子供って感じ。一方ルーデウスは6歳で別れて、今は筋肉少なめのパウロみたいな青年になってる。それだけ長く離れてたんだよな。普通くん
bondsmatthew
With how happy she was when he started to do magic, giving him that book for his 5th birthday, it's so damn sad. Seeing someone so full of life only for it to be mentally ripped away.. anyone with family members or friends with history with diseases of the mind are feeling so many emotions
彼が魔法を始めた時の喜び、5歳の誕生日に本を贈ったことを踏まえると本当に辛い。心を奪われる描写は、心の病を知る人ほど刺さる。考察くん
discuss-not-concuss
Zenith would definitely start reprimanding him before getting distracted by Lucy “Rudy~ Are you sure you’re reflecting? How many times do I have t- ara-ara Lucy-chan~ don’t cry, I’m not scolding your daddy anymore, okay?”
Zenithなら絶対説教するけどLucyに気取られるやつやな。「Rudy~反省しとるん?何回言えば…あらあらLucyちゃん、泣かんでええよ」2ちゃん
Frontier246
Zenith: (Sigh) You're truly your fathers' son. Now excuse me while I dote on my granddaughter and hope she doesn't end up with a two-timer."
Zenith「はぁ…ほんと父親そっくりすぎるッ。孫娘を溺愛してくるわ。二股男に捕まりませんように…!」感情くん
Lugia61617
"About that, while I was away with Eris' family, I discovered some bad news for you about the Greyrat women..."
それなんだが、Erisの家族と出てた間に、Greyrat家の女についてお前に悪い知らせ見つけたわ…2ちゃん
DarkenVragon
Zenith probably would, but at the same time, Sylphy might probably remind her the good time she had with Lilia and Aisha together with Paul.
Zenithはたぶんそうするだろうけど、SylphyはPaulとLilia、Aishaと過ごした楽しい時間を思い出させるかもね。普通くん
Frontier246
Honestly kind of sad to think that when she gets her mind back she'll have to deal with losing Paul.
正直、彼女が正気に戻ったらPaulを失った現実と向き合うの、考えるだけでまじしんどいんだけど…ギャル
Sweaty_Explorer_8441
She took Paul's armor last season, and recognises Norn this episode. She definitely has some conciousness
先シーズンPaulの鎧持ってったし、今回Nornも認識してた。あれ絶対意識あるやろ。2ちゃん
Jaded_Ad_9763
yeah... we could have both zenith and paul grandparents moment here. but alas
そうだね…ここでZenithとPaulの祖父母シーンも見られたはずなのに。残念だな。普通くん
dark77638
I dont think Rudeus could walk away just once lectures from peak Zenith. He probably got beat up by and healing from that same cleric staff of her (if she got any)
全盛期Zenithの説教1回でRudeusが帰れるとは思えん笑 僧侶杖でボコられて即回復されてそうじゃん(持ってれば)ギャル
DAiDAiDa
The animators loves aisha the most. that part was peak
アニメーター、aishaのこと一番好きだろ。あの部分マジで最高だった。普通くん
Frontier246
She's so cute and sassy she basically steals every scene she's in.
あの子まじで可愛くて生意気っぽいの最高じゃん!出てくるシーン全部持ってくのやばすぎ!ギャル
shad79
Aisha saying that about meals, that they're the usual ones, and Lilia scolding her every time for it made me feel like I was watching some comedy skit .
Aishaが飯を「いつもの」って言って、そのたびLiliaに怒られるの、完全にコントで笑ったw感情くん
Mundology
Aisha is such an adorably smug gremlin
Aisha、ドヤってる小悪魔感が可愛すぎる普通くん
CitronClassic672
I do feel a little bit bad for her though, Lilia seems to always put a degree of separation between her and Aisha from the rest of the family when no one else does. They really don’t need to be so formal with everyone.
ちょっと可哀想やな。Liliaだけ自分とAishaを家族から一歩引かせてる感じするわ。他は気にしてないし、そんな畏まらんでええやろ。2ちゃん
iamquitecertain
原文
Agreed. I think the reason for that is she considers herself first and foremost the Greyrat family maid. And she takes that job/role very seriously, to a fault. It's kinda sad because for all intents and purposes, Lilia is Rudy's mother as much as Zenith was/is. The fact that they're literally family, because Paul married her, and Aisha is Rudy's sister, makes me wish she'd act more familial with everyone
同意。Liliaは自分をGreyrat家のメイドだと思いすぎてるんだよね。Paulと結婚してAishaもRudyの妹だし、Zenith同様母親なんだから、もっと家族っぽく接してほしい。普通くん
darthvall
If I remember correctly, part of it was because how she felt guilty on Zenith as she made Paul cheat. Or was it a pledge because Zenith forgave her back then?
うろ覚えだけど、Paulを浮気させた件でZenithに罪悪感あったからやろ?それとも許された時の誓いだっけ?2ちゃん
swordmalice
原文
Correct. Lilia was the one who seduced Paul so she's carrying a world of guilt. She fully expected to be kicked out of the Greyrat home and would likely have died in her vulnerable state while out in the world, until Rudy came in and saved her life. As a result, she feels incredibly indebted to him to the point where she can only see herself as his maid to serve him, and not his stepmother. Rudy of course doesn't see her as just a maid, but Lilia is stubborn like that.
その通り。パウロを誘惑したのはリリアの方だから、彼女は罪悪感を抱えてるんだよな。グレイラット家を追い出されて外の世界で死んでもおかしくない状況だったところをルディに救われた。だから彼女はルディに恩を感じすぎていて、義母じゃなく仕えるメイドとしてしか自分を見られないんだと考察できる。ルディはメイド扱いしてないのに、リリアはそういう頑固さがあるんだよな。考察くん
raknor88
Wasn't there a scene last season where it was explained that Aisha is basically a child genius. But she's very actively chooses to just be the family's maid?
前のシーズンで、Aishaはほぼ天才児って説明されるシーンなかったっけ?でも本人は家族のメイドでいる道を選んでるんだよね?普通くん
Whendfield123
She is a prodigy. If i remember correctly, in season 2, after doing the entrance exam to the academy, the vice principal wanted to have her in the special class
彼女まじ天才じゃん!たしかseason 2で入学試験のあと、副校長が特別クラスに入れたがってたよね!ギャル
Raito21
I'd say it was 2 whole episodes since they simultaneously establish Norn's struggles with being an average human being in a family of top 0.1% geniuses
丸2話かけた感じやな。Nornが上位0.1%の天才一家で、凡人として苦しむのも同時に描いてたし。2ちゃん
LakerBlue
I hope she can join the party after a future timeskip because I really do love her personality lol
今後タイムスキップした後に彼女がパーティー入りしてくれたらいいな。性格ほんと好きなんだよねw普通くん
RehabCenterInc
She’s too damn cute
この子まじで可愛すぎなんだけど!!ギャル
BigBangBoomerang
GOATed sister.
最高の妹だね。普通くん
Sweet_Tangerine6674
and Roxy, she looks super sexy
あとRoxy、めっちゃエロいやんけ草2ちゃん
CitronClassic672
Her breasts looked like they got an upgrade in that shot of her in bed.
ベッドのあのカット、胸がなんかアップグレードされてたように見えた。普通くん
CitronClassic672
Aisha is just so adorable and endearing! She’s genuinely one of my favorite characters in the series, and l’ll never get tired of seeing her and Rudy’s interactions and how they show that despite only being half siblings by blood they are fully family to one another. As someone with a half sibling myself that part means a lot to me.
Aishaは本当に可愛くて愛おしい。Rudyとの関係は、血は半分でも完全に家族という描写で、自分にも異母きょうだいがいるから刺さる。考察くん
Negative_Tangelo_131
This episode was a suspiciously happy lmao, and the ending was incredible. The best in the series so far
今回やけに幸せすぎて逆に怪しいw でもラスト凄すぎた…シリーズ最高回まであるッ!感情くん
X_Seed21
Waiting for that dreaded 'Turning point X' title card
あの恐怖の「Turning point X」タイトルカードが来るのを待ってる普通くん
Z000Burst
every time that come up, it instant PTSD have we gotten one that didn't traumatize every one
それ出るたび即PTSDやん。みんなトラウマにしなかった回とかあったか?2ちゃん
JzanderN
The despair we all had when "Turning Point 3" came up on the "Next Time" last season. I know it's goig to hit us again just as hard when "Turning Point 4" eventually comes up.
前シーズンの次回予告で「Turning Point 3」が出た時の絶望感よ。「Turning Point 4」が来たらまた同じくらい刺さるの分かってる。普通くん
_vogonpoetry_
Hey, after 4 turns you end up facing the direction you were originally so maybe this one will be good.
おい、4回曲がったら結局元の向きやん。なら今回は良くなるかもな。2ちゃん
Fenor
i kinda lost track of the turning points, wich where these?
ターニングポイントがどれだったかちょっと分からなくなったんだけど、どれのこと?普通くん
JzanderN
原文
Turning Point 1: The Mana Disaster. Everyone was teleported, causing mass devastation to many people, families and the region. We would also later find out that it was how Nanahoshi got here. Turning Point 2: The Dragon God Encounter. Rudy almost dies at the hands of Orsted – only being saved because Nanahoshi suspected he was isekai'd like her – and the entire party gets traumatised by the encounter. This would result in Eris leaving Rudy to get stronger, unintentionally leaving him with ED that he'd have to find Sylphie to cure. Turning Point 3: Sylphie became pregnant and Rudy got a letter asking for more help saving Zenith. The Man God insisted he stayed home but he ignored him, resulting in Paul dying and him losing his hand, though they did save Zenith and Roxy which they probably wouldn't have if Rudy didn't go.
ターニングポイント整理という考察ができる。
・①転移事件:大勢が飛ばされ甚大な被害。ナナホシもこれで来た伏線
・②龍神遭遇:オルステッドにルディが殺されかけるも異世界人疑いで救われ、パーティは心的外傷。エリス離脱→EDに繋がる流れ
・③シルフィ懐妊&ゼニス救援要請。人神の忠告を無視した結果パウロ死亡・片手喪失だが、行かなきゃゼニスとロキシーは救えなかったとも読める考察くん
Fenor
do we know what would have happened if rudy didn't go to save his mom?
Rudyが母さんを助けに行かなかったらどうなってたか、分かってるの?普通くん
JzanderN
原文
We don't know for sure, but most likely they wouldn't have reached her. The dungeon was extremely difficult and it's only because Rudy had borrowed a book of an old adventurer's account of the dungeon that they managed to get through it so quickly after he joined. Plus the final portal was hidden and Rudy only realised it because the room looked like the room of a teleportation circle he went through on the way there. Even if they did make it to where Zenith was, it's unlikely they would have beaten the hydra. It regenerates heads and, without Rudy's suggestion based on the Heracles great myth, who knows if they could have figured out how to beat it. And that's without getting into how useful Rudy was in that fight thanks to his incantationless magic and absurd mana pool, pretty much instantly burning the stumps 'cause he could just fire great fire magic and being able to stop its breath attack. And, of course, Roxy almost certainly would have died if Rudy hadn't been there to figure out where she was and save her.
確証ないけど、RudyおらんかったらZenithまで無理やろ。攻略本・隠し転移・hydra対策もRudy頼み。Roxyもほぼ死んでたわ。2ちゃん
Kill-bray
原文
I think there's a good chance that the Man God was honest when he told Rudeus that not going would have been better for him. Roxy would have certainly died, but there's a good chance that Rudeus would have never known and he would have kept living thinking she was alive somewhere. Paul would have likely never found Zenith, which means he would have never found the Hydra either and he would have survived. And of course Rudeus wouldn't have lost his hand. The only real downside is that he would have lived his life knowing that he failed to find and save his mother, but on the other hand he would have never had to see her living as a vegetable.
Man Godの「行かない方がよかった」は本音かも。Roxyは死んでもRudeusは知らず、PaulもHydraに遭わず生存。腕も失わず、植物状態のZenithを見ることもなかった。普通くん
JzanderN
原文
Roxy would have certainly died, but there's a good chance that Rudeus would have never known and he would have kept living thinking she was alive somewhere. That's... not better for him. Besides, I highly doubt a bunch of people who knew how highly Rudy regarded Roxy wouldn't have told him that she was dead. Paul not finding Zenith doesn't mean he would have survived. In fact, I'd argue quite the opposite. He was DETERMINED to find her. Actual "save her or die trying," and if he couldn't save her then that leaves only one option left. It was pretty obvious even to Rudy that the Man God was manipulating him, listing off regrets he'd have if he went without naming any regrets he'd have if he didn't go. He was technically "not lying" by lying by omission rather than direct untruths. Not to mention his "advice" included cheating on Sylphie with either Linia or Pursena during their mating season. He was trying to manipulate Rudy away from the better option by making it sound worse and the other more tempting without fully understanding Rudy.
Roxyは死ぬし、Rudeusが知らずに生きるのも地獄やろ。PaulもZenith救えなきゃ死ぬ覚悟。Man Godの誘導ガチで露骨やん。2ちゃん
FacelessPoet
Turning Point 3 was relatively tame, though it did end with Paul's death
Turning Point 3は比較的おとなしかったけど、Paulの死で終わったんだよな普通くん
Se7en_Sinner
"Tame". Main character's father fucking dies.
「大人しい」って。主人公の父親がガチで死ぬんやぞ。2ちゃん
PowerSamurai
Mother is brought back as almost a vegetable and main lead loses a limb as well. How very "tame".
母親はほぼ植物状態で戻ってきて、主人公も片腕失ってるのに。どこが「マイルド」なんだよ。普通くん
YellowAppleCinema
What if turning point 4 is Rudeus bumping his toe against a table foot, and turning 360 degrees and walking away in pain
ターニングポイント4、Rudeusが机の脚に小指ぶつけて、360度回って痛がりながら去る回だったら草2ちゃん
Trevenas
On Father's day, no less.
よりによって父の日に。普通くん
TheSilenceMEh
That was such a sweet cherry on top. I dont know how scheduling works for the anime industry but that moment being on Fathers day made it hit so much harder.
最高のご褒美すぎたッ!放送スケジュールの仕組みは知らんけど、あの瞬間が父の日に来たの刺さりすぎて無理…感情くん