放送 2026-07-04更新 2026-07-27
Hitman7128
Lmao when Nina got a reality check with just how strong Rudeus is when she saw him one-shot Badigadi
ふっ…ニーナよ、お前は知らなかったのだな。ルーデウスという存在の真の力を目の当たりにした瞬間、運命の歯車が狂い始めたのだ。バディガディを一撃で屠るその姿、まさに異世界の理を超越した力の片鱗よ。中二病
dipshitonastick
I fucking love how we flashed back to Season 2 and got to see the other perspective
シーズン2のフラッシュバックで別視点が見れたの、めっちゃ好きだわ普通くん
PeaceAlien
The realization that it was Nina gave me such a smile. I love this story's callbacks
ニナだったって気づいて思わずニヤけたわw この作品の伏線回収マジで好きやンゴwww2ちゃん
kawaiinessa
was she there during season 2? i may have to rewatch and check lol Edit: hate that everyone answered my question instead of letting me learn on a rewatch lol
シーズン2の時も彼女いたっけ?見直さないとw
編集:みんな答え教えちゃって見直す楽しみ奪うのやめてくれよな笑wwwおじ
Veritas3333
Yeah, you could see her blue hair in the background of a bunch of shots
確かに、彼女の青い髪が幾つもの場面の背景に見え隠れしておったな。某も気づき申した。武士
zang227
Yes she 100% was. I don't remember if they showed her during the Badigadi shot, but the first two (rudy turning around to face her, and her hiding behind the column) were definitely shown in S2
確かに彼女は確かにそこに存在していた。バディガディの場面で彼女が映ったかは記憶にないが、最初の二つ——ルディが振り返り彼女と向き合う瞬間、そして柱の陰に隠れる彼女——は、間違いなく第二期で描かれていたのだ。運命の歯車は確かに動き始めているな。中二病
The_frost__
She wasn’t but she could be seen on the floor after he wiped everyone in the line
彼女はそばにいなかったけど、彼が列の全員を倒した後、床で見かけることはできたんだよね。普通くん
WaifuMasterRace
It was a pretty funny easter egg, especially back then you didn't have this context, so observant people would have just seen a blue haired girl in the queue to duel Rudeus for the hand of Pursena and Linia and assumed lilies were in bloom.
あの小ネタは結構面白かったな。特に当時はその文脈がなかったから、観察力のある人はルーデウスに決闘を挑む列に青い髪の少女を見て、「百合が咲いてるな」と推測しただけだったんだよな。制作陣の遊び心が感じられる演出だ。考察くん
FacelessPoet
Didn't they have the scene where Fitz tells him there's a cute girl in the line?
あのシーン、Fitzが列に可愛い子いるとか言ってたよね?普通くん
CitronClassic672
I like the reveal here but I also liked that interpretation back when I watched season 2. I thought it was neat casual queer rep, like Rudeus commenting on the line of dudes trying to fight him for Pursena Linua and the offhand remark that there is actually a girl in line too. MT has been surprisingly good at casual, normal queer rep for the kind of show it seems at first impression.
せやな、ここでの描写も好きやけどシーズン2の時点でそういう解釈できたのは良かったわ。ルーデウスがプルセナとリニアを巡って男どもと戦う流れで「実は女も並んでた」ってサラッと言うのがさ、なんか自然なクィア表現で草。無職転生って一見するとああいう系かと思いきや、意外と普通にクィア表現上手いよな。2ちゃん
PeaceAlien
Yes, I remember seeing and making comments on this blue-haired girl who kept appearing. Source readers were doing a bad job of commenting on her. But she kept reappearing so it seemed obvious she'd play a later role to me, just glad to get the payoff.
確かに。ずっと出てきてた青髪の女の子のことだよね。原作勢のコメントが下手すぎたけど、何度も登場するから後で重要になるのは明らかだったし、その回収ができてよかったよ。普通くん
Pixelchu25
It was interesting to notice after that too. She kinda looked like a background character and not in a way compared to the rest
なるほど、以後もよく観察したでござるな。彼女は他の面々と比べて、まるで背景キャラの如く見えたのでござる。武士
SirAwesome789
原文
Everyone here is saying how it's cool they made her feel like a background character when she first appeared, but tbh I remember her standing out She was quite visually distinct from the rest and I was surprised at the time that she didn't immediately have an impact on the story And I guess in world, she still stood out, bc everyone fighting Rudeus (aside from Badi) were male beastfolk trying to get Pursena and Linia's hand in marriage whereas she was clearly neither beastfolk or male so why would she be fighting? (I'm not sure if I had picked up on that at the time tho)
みんな「初登場時に背景キャラっぽく描かれてて良かった」って言ってるけど、ワイは逆にめっちゃ目立ってた記憶あるわ
見た目が他の連中と全然違うし、なんでストーリーにすぐ影響与えないんだって当時ビビったンゴ
つーか作中でも絶対目立ってたやろ
ルーデウスと戦ってた連中(バディ除く)はみんなプルセナとリニア目当ての雄の獣人ばっかだったのに、アイツは明らかに獣人でも雄でもないし、なんで戦ってるんやって話やん(当時そこまで気づいてたかは微妙やけど)2ちゃん
N3rdr4g3
Yep S2 E8. It's even the same gag.
確かにS2の8話だね。同じギャグまで再現されてて笑った。普通くん
LaplaceZ
Yep she was there. I read the LN so when I was watching S2 I saw her and I recognized her immediately.
ああ、いたな。原作読んでたからS2で見かけた瞬間にすぐわかったよ。ドライおじ
TheBusStop12
I'm curious if you were to go back to season 2 if she's amongst the pile of knocked out suitors
シーズン2に戻ったら、彼女も気絶した求婚者の山の中にいるのか気になるな普通くん
concblast
Yes, yes she is. That scene in the hallway was there too!
やばくない!?あの廊下のシーンもあったんだよマジで!ギャル
carnexhat
Truly a "I wasn't aware of your game" moment for her.
「お前のゲームには気づかなかった」って感じの瞬間すぎるッ!彼女の反応エモい!感情くん
JzanderN
Nina went from trying to mock Eris out of jealousy to kind of respecting her, or at least understanding just how high the mountain she's trying to climb is.
ニーナ、嫉妬でエリスを馬鹿にしてたのが、ちょっと敬意を持つようになった感じだよね。少なくとも、彼女が登ろうとしてる山がどれだけ高いかは理解したみたい。普通くん
PeaceAlien
Much more than kind of respecting her it seems. Nina might even begrudgingly call Eris a friend at this point.
ニナ、もうエリスをリスペクトとかそういうレベル超えてるやろwww 今や渋々ながらも「友達」って認めてる感じやな2ちゃん
HarvestMana
Real character growth - too overcome the beatdown that made her piss herself when they first met.
確かにw 最初に会った時は失禁するビビりっぷりだったのに、ちゃんと成長してるよな笑 草wwwおじ
Etiennera
I think it's not just the beatdown but getting special treatment from her dad. But well, I didn't read the novel, I just think one of those heals and the other eats at you over and over again over time.
確かに単にボコられるだけじゃなくて父親から特別扱いされてるのが効いてるんだろうな。小説は読んでないけど、片方は癒しで片方はじわじわ効いてくる毒みたいな違いだと思う。普通くん
PeaceAlien
Outside of accepting her, for many years it seemed Nina’s dad didn’t do much training with Eris. Until the gods showed up anyway
ニナの親父、エリスを家族として受け入れただけで長年あんま鍛えてなかったんか…神様来るまではな。草2ちゃん
Etiennera
I think it's implied they regularly sparred. He didn't teach her the move, but he showed it. The anime showed practice swings more probably for practical animation reasons.
確かに日常的に打ち合ってたって感じだよね。直接技を教えたわけじゃなくて見せただけってのも納得。アニメで素振り多めだったのは作画の都合だろうし。普通くん
JzanderN
Definitely by the end of the episode, but not when she returned from her journey to catch a Rudeus. She respected Eris' goal enough to train alongside her, but it would take a bit longer for the two to become sort of friends, albeit ones who might not refer to each other as such quite yet.
草、エピソード終盤でやっとそんな感じやな。旅から戻ってルーデウス捕まえに行った時点ではまだやろ。エリスの目標はリスペクトして一緒に修行してたけど、友達っていうかそういう関係になるにはもう少し時間かかってるンゴね。まあお互い「友達」とは認めたくない感じやけどなwww2ちゃん
CitronClassic672
To me it felt like when Nina returned it was the moment she started respecting Eris as a fellow swordswoman, and around the time the three of them went on that hunt that they started considering each other friends, though as you said neither is probably willing to admit that openly. Those two tsunderes, smh.
まあニーナが戻ってきた時点でエリスを一人の剣士として認め始めたんだろうな。3人で狩りに行ったあたりで友人意識が芽生えた感じだ。でも言う通り、どちらも素直に認めたがらないんだろう。あのツンデレ2人には呆れるよ。ドライおじ
Boris-_-Badenov
she was about to tell her where Rudeus is
草 ルーデウスの居場所バラそうとしてたんかwww2ちゃん
PeaceAlien
Well tbh that might piss Eris off. The two are avoiding each other and Nina trying to meet with Rudy might anger her
マジで言うとそれエリス怒らせるかもな…。二人はお互い避けてるのに、ニーナがルーディに会おうとするの、絶対エリスを怒らせるでしょッ!しんどすぎる…感情くん
Golden_Phi
原文
She at first refused to believe anything that Eris said. She started respecting her when she learned that Rudeus is actually great. She realized that Eris was trying to match THAT. Matching Rudeus is only the tip of the ice burg that Eris is trying to overcome though. She isn't just trying to match Rudeus; she's trying to kill Orstead. IDK if Nina knows just how hard that is. You'd think she would know based on the Sword God calling himself "small fry" compared to Orstead, but Nina might not believe that statement at first either.
最初はエリスが言うこと全く信じてなかったけど、ルーデウスがすごいって知ってからはリスペクトし始めたんだな。エリスがそれに追いつこうとしてるって気づいたんだね。でもエリスが挑んでるのはルーデウスに並ぶことだけじゃなくて、オルステッドを倒すことなんだよな。ニナがその難易度をどれだけ理解してるかはわからないけど、剣神がオルステッドの前じゃ「雑魚」って言ってるの聞いてたらさすがにわかる…と思うんだけど、最初はそれも信じてないかもね。普通くん
JzanderN
Nina absolutely believes the Sword God about how strong Orsted is. It was even part of the reason she believed Eris was lying about how strong Rudy is. But as much as she believes her father about Orsted's strength, it's still abstract without actually meeting or seeing him in action. Seeing Rudy in action, however, makes it very clear just what Eris is at least trying to match.
ニナは剣神から聞いたオルステッドの強さを完全に信じている。それゆえにエリスがルーデウスの強さを誇張していると疑った節もある。しかし父から聞いたオルステッドの強さは、実際に対面したり戦闘を目撃しない限り抽象的だ。一方、ルーデウスの実戦を見れば、エリスが少なくとも追い求めようとしている領域が明確に理解できるという考察ができる。考察くん
Ellefied
Supersonic Ia Bushido has nothing when the person she's pining for can create Ballistic Missiles made of rocks.
確かに。超音速居合抜き術も、相手が岩で弾道ミサイル作れる相手だと意味ないね。普通くん
sheepyowl
I think Badigadi did Rudeus a big solid there. He took out 50(?) challengers and the duel with him let everyone know that there's no point in trying him, they all just gave up. Must have freed up hours of Rudy's time
バディガディ、ルーデウスにマジでデカい貸し作ったやんwww 挑戦者50人(?)も片付けて、決闘で「コイツには勝てんわ」ってみんなに思い知らせたし、その後は全員諦めたンゴ。ルーデウスの時間、何時間も浮いたやろな2ちゃん
ijiolokae
Badigadi allowing Rudy to use his his strongest attach really showed the people around that Rudy has been holding back the entire time
バディガディがルディに最強技を使わせたことで、周りに「ルディはずっと手加減してたんだな」ってのが伝わったのが良かったね普通くん
zero2champion
Rudy's Strongest Attack is a literal nuke that kills everyone in the vicinity including himself unless all that energy is absorbed by the Dragon Gate, and even then it cracked, Years ago. I can't say with confidence it would be enough to stop said attack this time around.
ルディの最強攻撃って文字通り核爆弾やん。自分含めて周囲全員死ぬし、何年も前に竜門が吸収しなきゃ割れてたって話やろ。今回もその攻撃止められるかって言われたら、ワイは自信ないンゴwww2ちゃん
Astray
Rudy probably still holding back too. Probably wants to avoid too much collateral and only fired an amped up single target attack.
ルディもまだ本気出してなさそうだね。多分、周りへの被害を抑えたいから、パワーアップした単体攻撃だけ撃ったんだろうな。普通くん
ExplorationGeo
Efficiency is the greatest gift
効率化マジで神やん。無駄がなくて草2ちゃん
nhansieu1
Badigadi cannot be cut by anything lower than people with King rank battle aura, a.k.a Ghislaine at minimum. it doesn't matter how many people came at him, but I don't think 50 people would be doing much to Rudeus other than just tiring him out
バディガディは王級の闘気を持つ奴、最低でもギレーヌクラスじゃないと斬れないんだよ。何人でかかっても意味ないし、50人いたところでルーデウスには疲れさせるくらいしかできないんじゃないかな。普通くん
Ebo87
Nina trying to go full Mean Girls on Eris and Eris just not having any shits to give and then Nina just comes at the absolute worst time to see this Rudeus, hahaha. And now everyone knows who the blue-haired girl was, back in season 2, lol, and WHY she was there.
ニーナがエリスに『ミーン・ガールズ』ばりに絡もうとしたのに、エリスが完全に無関心でスルー。さらに最悪のタイミングでルーデウスとの現場を目撃するニーナ、笑えるな。これで第2期の青髪の少女の正体と、なぜあの場所にいたのかが全員にバレたわけだ。制作陣の伏線回収のタイミングが絶妙だと思われる。考察くん
ExplorationGeo
"This Rudeus guy must be just some schmuck, right?" "oh shit "
「このルーデウスって奴、ただのクソ野郎だよね?」「あっやべ」
めっちゃ展開変わったじゃん!ギャル
Atharaphelun
Then Nina hits Eris with " Are you sure Rudeus is still going to want your stanky ass rotting fish pussy, you filthy, unwashed bitch? "
ニナがエリスに「ルーデウスがまだお前の臭い腐った魚のアソコを欲しがると思ってるのかよ、この汚い不潔なビッチが」って言ったのには笑ったわ。普通くん
Cloud_Chamber
Dammmn
まじやばっ!やばすぎじゃん!?ギャル
ThatFart5YearsAgo
In the words of Napoleon. I will be home in 3 days. Do not wash.
ナポレオンの言葉を借りるなら「3日で帰る。洗濯するな」ってとこだな。普通くん
toadfan64
I’ll be honest, I can’t agree with Napoleon on this one.
ナポレオンの意見には正直賛同できんわ。2ちゃん
LowlySlayer
I mean she probably hasn't had a bath or change of clothes in years at that point.
確かに…あの時点で何年も風呂入ってないし着替えもしてないってことか…しんどすぎるッ!感情くん
sesaman
Or the best time if you think about it.
むしろ最高のタイミングだと思うよ。普通くん
JzanderN
The girl was already having a bad day when she was finding out from word of mouth that not only did Rudy exist, but he really is all the shit Eris describes him as. Then she saw him in person and realised it wasn't just word of mouth.
この少女は元々散々な一日だったんだが、口コミでルディの存在を知った上に、エリスが言う通りのクソ野郎だと確認したんだな。そして実際に本人を目撃したことで、それが噂だけじゃないと悟った。この流れ、キャラクターの心情描写が丁寧で、制作陣の意図が感じられる。考察くん
Mistral-Fien
First she was thinking "He can't have beaten a red dragon solo" then sees him defeat the demon king in one hit. 😛
最初は「まさかレッドドラゴンをソロで倒せるわけない」って思ってたのに、魔王をワンパンで倒すとこ見ちゃうのな。😛普通くん
Not__Trash
I guess she left before Rudy got one-shot lol
ははっ、ルディがワンパンされる前に逃げたってわけかw感情くん
Technical-Cat-2017
I don't think it matters much for her, her sword was broken and she knew she couldn't do shit against badigadi.
あの状況じゃ彼女にはどうしようもなかったやろ。刀も折れてたし、バーディガディに全然歯が立たないって本人が一番わかってたンゴwww2ちゃん
SyfaOmnis
I think it was closer to like, a bad half year. She spent a lot of time researching "Rudeus" and then it took a few weeks or months to travel to Sharia and back.
やばくね!?実質半年ぐらいやばい時期だったってことじゃん!彼女「ルーデウス」についてめっちゃ調べてたし、シャリアまで往復するのに何週間もかかってるし、まじで大変だったんだな〜ギャル
JzanderN
I know it wasn't actually a day – you can see the night pass as she travelled to where Rudy was – but "bad day" is a lot more fun to say than "bad week," "bad month" or "bad half a year."
確かに実際は1日じゃなかったけどね。ルディのとこに行くまでの間に夜が過ぎてるのがわかるし。「悪い1週間」とか「悪い半年」って言うより「悪い1日」って言った方が語感的に楽しいのはわかるわ。普通くん
shad79
The first half of this episode when Nina finds out that Rudeus is both real and amazing was freaking hilarious ! Especially that she appeared at the university at the same moment as Badigadi , hahaha. But it surely worked out well for Nina, as she became friends with Eris after that ( or at least that is what it looked like to me ).
前半、ニナがルーデウスが実在してしかもすごいやつだと知るシーン、めちゃくちゃ面白かったな。特にバディガディと同時に大学に現れたタイミングが秀逸だった。この演出、意図的に並行して描いたと考察できる。結果的にニナはエリスと友達になれたみたいで良かった(少なくともそう見えた)。考察くん
winmace
I love this shot the most: She looks so wholesome
このショットが一番好きだな。彼女、めっちゃほっこりする感じが出てるよね普通くん
Xtranathor
Whilst casually covered in blue blood!
青い血まみれでサラッとやってるの草www2ちゃん
Golden_Phi
I like that Eris has finally gotten some peace at heart.
エリスがようやく心の平穏を得たのはいいね。普通くん
Cheesemacher
Loved Nina's character arc from despising Eris to admiring and respecting her. And then she got to reach Eris a valuable lesson about not being angry all the time - and taking a bath
ニナのキャラ成長ガチで良かったンゴwww
最初はエリス嫌ってたのに尊敬するようになって、しかもエリスに「怒ってばっかじゃダメ」って教える立場になるとは思わんかったわ
しかも風呂入るシーンでそれを伝えるとか草生えるわ2ちゃん
Rabbitey-
Hilarious she took a quick vacay to find out if Rudeus was real or not.
マジ笑ったわ!彼女がルーデウスが本物か確かめるためにサクッとバカンス行ったのやばくね!?ギャル
Deathsroke
That's like seeing some no name guy one-hit ko prime Mohamed Ali or something. Terror would be the most natural response IMO.
それは無名のやつが全盛期のモハメド・アリをワンパンKOするのを見るようなもんだよね。恐怖が一番自然な反応だと思うわ。普通くん
absentmindedjwc
Holy shit.. I was so confused... I legitimately didn't realize both 1 and 2 were released.. like.. I scrubbed through episode 1 like "wtf is he talking about???". I was so looking forward to the adaption of the Eris chapters from the LN, and they absolutely fucking nailed it. Hopefully the rest of the season is this good!
マジかよ……ワイ完全に混乱してたわ……まさか1話と2話がもう公開されてるとは思わんかったンゴ……1話を適当に飛ばしながら「何言うとるねんこのやろう」ってなってたわ。エリスの小説パートのアニメ化めっちゃ楽しみにしてたんやけど、ガチで完璧に再現しとるやん。今期はずっとこのクオリティ続いてくれや!2ちゃん
rom846
Rofl when Nina thought she could beat Rudeus.
ニナがルーデウスに勝てると思ったときは笑ったわw普通くん
CaliOriginal
Imagine the mental whipslash there. “Ohh, dozens of beastfolk want to challenge him too” “… okay, everyone is fighting a demon king at once. Sure” “ … … did he just oneshot the monster that took us all down in an instant?” Minus her blacking out for a bit that’s got to be the wildest minute* of her life
この場面の精神的ギャップが凄いよな。「おお、何十人もの獣人が彼に挑戦するのか」→「…まあ、全員で魔王と同時に戦うのか。わかった」→「… … さっき俺たち全員を一瞬で倒したモンスターを、彼がワンパンしたって?」彼女が少し気絶してたのを差し引いても、人生で最もカオスな一分間だったという考察ができる。考察くん
m3m31ord
原文
I like how the story isn't taking the "Eris just trains by herself" route, she's building connections with each school and becoming better by understanding. The "you lose hostility talking about Rudeus" scene is specially interesting because Eris' personality is still that of the Mad Dog, but if she wants to get better she has to think about and incorporate what Rudeus and her family taught her about etiquette and self grooming.
【口調】2ちゃん(5ch)
「エリスが独りで修行」じゃなくて学校ごとに人脈作って理解深めてく展開、ワイは好きやわ
「ルーデウスの話すると敵意消える」シーン特に草
エリス本人はまだ狂犬そのものなんやけどな
強くなるためにルーデウスと家族に教わった礼儀や身だしなみを取り入れてく感じが良いンゴwww2ちゃん
JzanderN
原文
It took a while, but Eris finally made some friends! What I particularly like about the "you lose hostility talking about Rudeus" scene is that Eris in the past two episodes has been a lot more antagonistic and aggressive towards everyone. Not actively – she's more of a "do what you want but leave me alone" – but she's been feeling very different from when we last saw her. But that's because we've been seeing her with Rudy and so have been seeing her soft side. Without Rudy or anyone else she cares about, Eris has put her walls up and is a very hostile presence to those around her (Ghislaine is around but isn't enough to lower those walls for everyone like Rudy can be). But Nina and Isolde have finally started to break through that mad dog wall and while it's not fully down, you can see Eris is being nicer to them already.
時間かかったけど、エリスようやく友達できたね!「ルーデウスの話すると敵意がなくなる」シーンが特に好きなのは、ここ2話でエリスがみんなに対してずっと攻撃的だったから。積極的ってわけじゃなくて「好きにしろ、でも俺に構うな」って感じだけど、前回見た時とはだいぶ違う感じだったんだよね。でもそれはルディといる時の柔らかい面しか見てなかったから。ルディみたいな大切な人がいないと、エリスは壁を作って周りに敵対的になるんだよね(ギレーヌはいるけど、ルディほど壁を下げさせてくれない)。でもニナとイゾルテがようやくその狂犬の壁を壊し始めてて、まだ完全じゃないけど、エリスがもう優しくなってるのがわかるよ。普通くん
N1-L3
原文
The Eris-Nina-Isolde is my favorite minor character dynamic in the series. I think it’s mentioned earlier in the series she got kicked out of school for constantly starting fights and never really had friends her age. Ghislaine and Ruijerd are the closest she has had to real friends, other than Rudeus of course, but that’s a different kind of dynamic for obvious reasons. So Eris making her own friends is crazy development for her lol
エリス・ニナ・イゾルデの関係性ガチで好きやわ
シリーズ序盤で「喧嘩ばっかで退学になった」「同年代の友達ほぼいない」って言われてたやん
ギレーヌとルイジェルドがほぼ初めてのマジな友達(ルーデウスはまた別の関係やけど)
そんなエリスが自分から友達作りに行くのはめっちゃ成長やろwww2ちゃん
JzanderN
原文
Now that you mention it, it is the first time she's made friends by herself! I mean, I suppose it was with a little help from the Sword God and the Water God for having her train with Nina and Isolde, but she easily could have just seen them as sparing partners yet is clearly seeing them as a bit more, albeit slowly. But she's not just making friends with someone Rudy's friends with, she's actually making two friends on her own!
確かに言われてみれば、彼女が自分だけで友達を作ったのは初めてだね!もちろん剣神や水神の助けでニナやイゾルデと一緒に訓練したのはあるけど、ただの練習相手じゃなくて徐々に仲良くなってるのがわかる。それにルーデウスの友達経由じゃなくて、自分だけで二人も友達を作れたのは大きいよ。普通くん
N1-L3
If you asked her or read her thoughts she’d probably still say they’re not friends, but that’s just her tsun. The other two definitely would so she’s overruled. Democracy ftw!
ワイ「お前ら友達なん?」
シルフィ「ち、違うし!」
他の2人「もちろん友達やで」
シルフィ「(反論できず)」
民主主義最強やんけwww でも内心はツンデレ全開やろなあ(確信)2ちゃん
CitronClassic672
原文
In just two episodes this show introduced a lot of different characters and I already find all of them incredibly endearing. I really like seeing all of these characters who are able to go into no-nonsense fighter mode against others and switch back to a friendly, casual interaction with them, to varying degrees. Maybe it’s just me but I feel like that kind of portrayal is rare to see in shows. I’m used to people who are friendly with each other in casual interaction being somewhat friendly if they start sparring, and the more serious sparring reserved for rivals who are frosty with each other all the time. But in the combat here you really get to sense that everyone is treating it like a real fight, then when it’s done they’re complimenting each other and joking around. I really like that.
たった2話でたくさんのキャラが出てきたけど、もう全員めっちゃ愛着湧いてるわ。戦闘モードと日常モードの切り替えが自然なのがいいんだよね。普段は仲良し同士が本気で戦うシーンってあんまり見ない気がする。この作品ではみんな真剣に戦って、終わったら笑い合ってるのがすごく好き。普通くん
GinJoestarR
Yeah, the reaction shown by the North Emperor and Water God & her disciple when meeting Eris for the first time were really nice details.
マジでそれ!!北帝と水神&弟子がエリスと初めて会ったときの反応、細かいとこまで作り込まれてて最高すぎるッ!感情くん
Qxujevoz
原文
Looks like Nina & Eris started to become friends before the Water God came though. Remember, Eris actually listened to Nina about showing manners to Water God. Eris' initial brazenness & ruthlessness rubbed all the students the wrong way but it was a nice touch showing her peers slowly acknowledging her hard work. Then Nina's friends teasing her about love came full circle in Nina eventually training with Eris & later giving her advice, ultimately improving both their attitudes.
せやな、水神来る前にニナとエリスは仲良くなり始めてたンゴね。エリスがニナの言うこと聞いて水神に礼儀正しくしてたの覚えてるわ。最初はエリスのガツガツした態度に生徒みんな引いてたけど、地道な努力を認められていく流れは良かったわ。ニナが恋愛ネタで友達にいじられてたのが、後でエリスと訓練したりアドバイス送ったりして最終的にお互いの態度改善につながったの、伏線回収って感じで草生える。2ちゃん
JzanderN
原文
Looks like Nina & Eris started to become friends before the Water God came though. Remember, Eris actually listened to Nina about showing manners to Water God. That's fair and they were definitely becoming more friendly and respectful with each other, but I don't think they really became friends until the hunt. Nina never really told Eris to take a bath until after that and I doubt Eris would have listened to her if she had beforehand. But that experience helped them and Isolde become friends to the point where they could have that conversation. Eris' initial brazenness & ruthlessness rubbed all the students the wrong way but it was a nice touch showing her peers slowly acknowledging her hard work. That's a good point. No-one liked Eris or wanted her there at first, but when they saw that beneath her ferocious, antisocial shell was someone maybe even more dedicated than any of them were, everyone started to at least stay out of her way. They even cheered her on when she pulled off the Longsword of Light! Nina held onto her animosity longer because she had a lot of personal feelings in it, but it looked like she was the only one really antagonising Eris anymore.
そうだね、水神様が来る前からニナとエリスは友達になり始めてたと思う。エリスがニナの言うこと聞いて礼儀をわきまえてたし、確かにお互いにもっと友好的で敬意を持つようになってた。でも本当の友達になったのは狩りの後かな。ニナはあれ以降までエリスに風呂入れって言わなかったし、それ以前にエリスが聞くとは思えない。あの経験でイゾルデも含めて友達になれたんだと思う。エリスの最初の図々しさと厳しさはみんなに嫌われたけど、同級生たちが彼女の努力を認めていく様子は良かった。
- 最初は誰もエリスを好きじゃなかったけど、彼女の獰猛で非社交的な殻の下に誰よりも努力家な姿を見て、みんな少なくとも邪魔はしなくなったね
- 光の長剣を決めた時は拍手まであったし
- ニナだけは個人的な感情もあって長く敵意を持ってたけど、結局彼女だけがエリスに反発してたみたい普通くん
Qxujevoz
原文
Rudy basically indirectly helped both Nina & Eris improve their attitudes & training. It was a good thing Nina was invested enough to disprove & one-up Eris for Nina to actually travel to see Rudeus.Then Nina caught sense enough to start training with Eris which helped them both further. Of course, in true fictional style, it's kept mysterious because IRL Nina would've already told Eris she saw Rudeus. The weird thing about Eris acting like a wild animal is that her teacher Ghislaine already transitioned out of that phase years ago. Does Ghislaine think that's part of the growing process so she never steered Eris away from that? Remember when Eris refused to learn from Rudeus but Ghislaine was eager to learn?
ルディがニナとエリスの両方の態度や訓練向上に間接的に貢献したのは興味深い点だな。ニナがエリスに反論し、さらに上を行くためにルディに会いに行くほど熱心だったのが良かった。その後、ニナがエリスと訓練を始める分別を持ったことで、二人ともさらに成長した。もちろん、典型的なフィクションのスタイルで謎が保たれているが、現実ならニナはすでにエリスにルディに会ったことを伝えているはずだ。エリスが野生動物のように振る舞う奇妙な点は、彼女の師匠ギレーヌが何年も前にその段階を卒業していることだ。ギレーヌはそれを成長過程の一部と見なして、エリスをその方向から導かなかったのだろうか?エリスがルディから学ぶのを拒否した一方で、ギレーヌが熱心に学ぼうとしたのを覚えている。考察くん
JzanderN
原文
Of course, in true fictional style, it's kept mysterious because IRL Nina would've already told Eris she saw Rudeus. In this context, I'm not sure she would have even IRL, specifically because Nina didn't really like Eris. Seeing Rudy and returning to see Eris training diligently gave Nina an understanding of her that would end up with them becoming friends, but I don't think Nina at this point would have wanted to admit she travelled miles to duel Rudy and make him her slave only to get curbstomped by a Demon King he proceeded to one-shot. And by the time they were friends it wasn't really relevant, nor were they so close friends that Nina felt the need to admit to it. The weird thing about Eris acting like a wild animal is that her teacher Ghislaine already transitioned out of that phase years ago. Does Ghislaine think that's part of the growing process so she never steered Eris away for that? I'm not sure if you're asking if Ghislaine thinks you need to have a wild animal inside you to tame and therefore she kept Eris' wild animal for this or if you're asking if Ghislaine thinks you need to be a certain way to learn the Sword God style. If the former: I don't believe so considering none of the other students seem to have any inner beasts. They don't think Eris belongs precisely because of her inner wild animal. It's just really difficult to her to tame that inner beast of hers. If the latter: Gal trained Ghislaine to temper that wild animal within her probably because it was required for what she wanted to become. When you get taught to be a certain way by the literal greatest swordsman of that style and all of his other students are also that way, it's not difficult to understand why Ghislaine thinks that's part of the growing process. Remember when Eris refused to learn from Rudeus but Ghislaine was eager to learn? Ghislaine was eager to learn because she had faced hardships from being unable to read that made her wish she knew how while Eris was an entitled brat who only wanted to learn what interested her. And Ghislaine sharing those experiences actually did end up with Eris learning despite how much she disliked it.
確かにフィクションならではの展開だよね。現実ならニナはもうエリスにルディを見たって言ってるはず。でもこの場合、ニナがエリスをあまり好きじゃなかったから言わなかった可能性もある。遠くまでルディと決闘しに行って、魔王にワンパンされた話なんて認めたくないだろうしね。エリスの野生児っぷりについてだけど、ギレーヌはもうその段階を卒業してるのに、なんでエリスをそのままにしたんだろう?多分ギレーヌは「内なる野獣を飼いならすのが成長過程」って考えてるんじゃないかな。他の生徒にそんなのいないし、エリスが浮いてるのはそのせい。ガルに鍛えられた経験もあるし、読み書きを嫌がるエリスに自分の経験を共有して教えたように、ああいう姿勢がギレーヌの教育方針なんだと思う。普通くん
Frontier246
Nina basically begrudgingly gave up being a petty mean girl and adopted her as a friend!
まじで!?ニーナ、最初はイライラしながらも小悪魔的な態度捨てて、友達として受け入れたんだよ!やばくね!?ギャル
CitronClassic672
Nina and Eris speedran the rivals to friends trope. Now when do they make the jump to lovers, lol?
ニナとエリス、ライバルから友達への流れを爆速で駆け抜けすぎだろ!次はいつ恋人にステップアップすんの、笑うしかない!感情くん
Careful_Ad_9077
I was expecting them to go to an onsen/bath when they talked about having a meeting am taking a bath.
会議しながら風呂とか言うから温泉行くかと思ったンゴwww 草2ちゃん
Mistral-Fien
Wasn't she friends with those girls in the Doldia tribe?
ドルディア族のあの娘たちと友達だったんじゃなかったっけ?普通くん
Montgomery000
They don't count because she's a Greyrat.
わかる!グレイラット家ってだけでカウント外って感じだよねッ感情くん
JzanderN
A Boreas Greyrat, no less!
ボレアス・グレイラット家かよ、すげえな!普通くん
JzanderN
Yes, but they weren't really on her level like Nina and Isolde are. And she wouldn't have made friends with them without Rudy, even without his direct presence when she did.
せやな、ニナやイゾルデみたいなレベルじゃなかったやろな。それにルディがいなかったらああいう友達作れてなかったやろな。直接居合わせてなくてもな。2ちゃん
iandotio
"The doldia tribe.... they're like pets to me."
「ドルディア族か……俺にとってはペットみたいなもんだな」普通くん
SaintPimpin
I keep forgetting Eris speaks like a feral ojou sama
エリスの口調が野生のお嬢様っての忘れがちやわwww2ちゃん
Qxujevoz
If Eris keeps the tsun with them, they'll be Vitriolic Best Buds. Hopefully, we'll see some genuine affection from Eris to Nina & Isolde at some point.
エリスがツンデレを続けてたら、バチバチの親友って感じになりそうだね。いずれはニーナやイゾルデにエリスが本気で愛情見せる場面が見たいな。普通くん
Frontier246
I remember how she interacted with Cliff and how she barely even acknowledged him the entire time they were hanging out. But even the most feral and strong of mad dogs need gal pals.
そうそう!クリフといた時の彼女の絡み方思い出すよな…あんなにずっとクリフのこと無視してたのに。でもどんなに強くて野生の狂犬でも女友達は必要なんだよなッ!エモすぎる感情くん
PeaceAlien
Rudeus is the key to everything, but I wonder what Eris' response will be when she finds out he has 2 other partners now
ルーデウスが全ての鍵なのはわかってるんだけどさ、エリスが他の二人のパートナーのこと知ったらどう反応するんだろ!?やばくね!?ギャル
maoulegna
I woudl expect: unspeakable violence in the beginning only to turn into: - I'm still the one who took his virginity. I win! - Rudeus go in the bedroom! We have years of "moments" so I catch on the others
最初はえげつない暴力シーンかと思いきや、「でも私が最初に童貞奪ったんだからね。私の勝ち!」ってなるんだろうな。ルーデウス、寝室行きなさい!何年分もの「瞬間」を溜め込んでるから、今から取り返すわよって感じ。普通くん
machopsychologist
Its simple 💚 First Wife 💙 First Meet ❤️ First Time
シンプルにエモすぎるッ!💚 最初の妻💙 初めての出会い❤️ 初めての時間…全部が特別すぎて泣いた!感情くん
Pickled_Kagura
"damn im not even second fiddle in this blue grass harem"
ああ、俺はこのブルーグラスハーレムの中で二番手にもなれてないのかよ普通くん
Frontier246
"They're your wives but you’re MY wife."
「お前たちは俺の妻だが、お前は俺の妻だ」……このセリフやばすぎるッ!優勝すぎるだろ!感情くん
Shinkopeshon
Jar Jar Rudeus is the key to all of this
ジャージャールーデウスが全部のカギなんだよな普通くん
SirAwesome789
原文
I could've sworn there was a scene where she said something like, "I'll either end up with rudeus or no one" She sees rudeus as infalliable, so not that I think she'll accept it easily, but I think she'll kinda blame herself and no one else and get extreme shock into depressed. I don't thinks she will prompt a fight with the other two girls. On the other hand, I think sylphie will try to start a fight, I think she despises eris bc of what she did to rudeus, idk how eris would respond to that, especially since it's someone rudeus cares about I'm so interested to see how it will play out. I don't think she'll immediately join the harem like with what happened with sylphie and roxy essentially
「確かに彼女が『ルーデウス以外と結婚するくらいなら一生独身でいる』みたいなセリフがあった気がする。エリスはルーデウスを絶対視してるから、簡単に受け入れるとは思えないが、むしろ自分を責めて鬱状態になる可能性が高い。他の二人と争うより、自己嫌悪に陥る展開が考察できる。逆にシルフィはエリスを嫌ってると思われる。ルーデウスにした仕打ちを考えれば当然だ。エリスがシルフィの挑発にどう反応するか、特にルーデウスが大事に思ってる相手だと知った時のリアクションが気になる。シルフィやロキシーのように即座にハーレム入りする展開は考えにくいな」考察くん
kingmanic
borderline consensual foursome.
ほぼ同意の上での4Pだね。普通くん
DoktorSleepless
Rachel-Ross break debate begins.
レイチェル・ロス分割論争キターーー!!
もう草不可避やんwww2ちゃん
SenaiMachina
I mean, it's not abnormal for men in this world to have multiple wives. So with how much she idolizes him I don't think expecting her to be surprised is realistic.
確かに!この世界だと複数妻は普通だしな。シルフィがルディアスを崇拝しすぎてるから、驚く展開は現実的じゃないってマジでそれな!感情くん
InsidiousObserver
Considering how generally freaky her Greyrat relatives were, I doubt Eris is much of a prude regarding monogamy.
エリスのグレイラット家の親戚たちが全体的にぶっ飛んでたことを考えると、彼女が一夫一妻制にこだわるタイプじゃなさそうだよね。普通くん
Nghtmare-Moon
She’s gonna be like “imma be third and you two either accept me or fight me!”
やばっ!彼女が「私が三番目になるから、あんたたちは受け入れるか戦うか選びなさい!」って言いそうじゃん!笑ギャル
Arkam_slayer66
I want more. 2 wasn't enough
もっと見たい。2話だけじゃ足りないよ普通くん
Waste-Contest-2577
there's 25 more to go
まだ25話もあるのか…しんどすぎるッ!感情くん
Arkam_slayer66
Ik its split im still hungry...
確かに分割は分かってるけど、まだ物足りないな…普通くん
Sweaty_Explorer_8441
with a probable 6months gap between cours tho
えっ、6ヶ月も間空くの!?やばくね!?まじで待てないんだけど笑ギャル
Ebo87
Sure, but it will be well worth the wait.
せやな、待つ価値はガチであるンゴwww2ちゃん