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百火
摩緒たちは火の陰陽術を操る兄弟子・百火に襲われる。百火は1度死んでしまうが、すぐに生き返った。百火も900年生き続けているのだ。百火によると、900年前、5人の弟子が師匠から五色堂に呼ばれたという。
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FLorianGran
Lot of cool lore in Mao's backstory and I doubt we're done with Hyakka. Looks like we have a real piece of shit to deal with first.
ふむ… Maoの過去に秘められた伝承、なかなかに興味深いな。だが、我々の前に立ちはだかる百火の真実は、まだ深淵の奥に眠っているのだろう。しかし、まずはあのクソッタレな敵を屠らねばならぬようだ。中二病
Frontier246
This show is really capturing that supernatural mystery/horror vibes well, which I think helps it find a different niche compared to Inuyasha (not that Inuyasha didn't have those vibes, but it feels different here).
まあ、この作品はオカルトミステリー/ホラー的な雰囲気をうまく出してるな。犬夜叉と比べると、また違うニッチを掴んでる感じがする。別に犬夜叉にそういう空気がなかったわけじゃないけど、ここではまた違う味わいだ。ドライおじ
saga999
Inuyasha has the horror vibe, but not the mystery vibe, at least not that I remember. It's been 2 decades since I read it, but I don't remember any impression of it being a mystery like I get watching this one. Mao truly feels like a mystery that we slowly learn more and more about as we go. Inuyasha might have some things we learn as we go, but it didn't feel like a mystery, just plot unveiling.
犬夜叉はホラー要素はあるけど、謎解きって感じはせえへんな。少なくともワイの記憶じゃな。読んでから20年経つけど、MAOみたいに「じわじわ謎が解けていく」って感覚はなかったわ。MAOはガチでミステリーって感じや。犬夜叉も話が進むにつれて知ることはあるけど、謎解きってより単にプロットが明らかになるだけやったンゴ。2ちゃん
ExpertCaterpillar2
Wasn't expecting Jujutsu Kaisen in my Mao.
まさかMAOで呪術廻戦が出てくるとは思わなかったわ。普通くん
Frontier246
"Stand proud, Hyakka...you are strong."
「誇れ、百花……お前は強い」やンゴwww2ちゃん
171194Joy6
Hyakka ga shindaaaaaa . . . . Or not...
百花死んだのかよ……って違うか普通くん
Frontier246
It would've been kind of funny if they just introduced this new character and killed him off within five minutes of screentime lol.
「新キャラ出して5分で殺すとかウケるわww ちょっと笑ったけどな!」感情くん
DonnaTX
😭
😭普通くん
BusouDrago
Basically Tokyo Ghoul RE . Rushing the manga to the end.
まじで東京喰種REみたいな感じじゃん!漫画を急いで終わらせてるだけってやばくね?ギャル
HornedTurtle1212
Especially when he's in the opening, lol
オープニングに出てくるときは特にね、笑普通くん
Shantotto11
The NinKoro/Jujutsu Kaisen deluxe.
我が目に映るは、NinKoroと呪術廻戦の至高なる融合。この世界の理すら超越した逸品、まさに運命の必然なり。中二病
HolyDragSwd2500
OMG. You killed Hyakka !!!! You B@stsrd
なんと!百火を斬ったでござるか…!この不届き者め…!武士
Alter_Kyouma
I am realizing that even the method to choose a successor seems to be a kodoku similar to how they created Byouki. They have the strongest disciples in the same room trying to kill the weakest, and then repeat this until only one is left. I wouldn't be surprised if that cult were the ones who created Byouki
後継者を選ぶ方法も、病忌を作った方法と同じような蠱毒みたいだなって気づいたよ。最強の弟子たちを同じ部屋に閉じ込めて弱者を殺させて、一人になるまで繰り返す。あの教団が病忌を作ったんだとしても全然驚かないわ。普通くん
Andreiyutzzzz
i mean you saw that cat right.... that motherfucker looked like the smol version of Byouki lol
わかる…あの猫見たよね…まじで病気のちっちゃい版みたいな顔してたじゃんw感情くん
Frontier246
原文
Mao sure hails from a complicated backstory. The Imperial Tower has seen better days! Not the most sightseeing spot Mao has taken Nanoka! And that's before the flaming heads turn up to try and attack them! But they only herald the arrival of Hyakka (Hiro Shimono!) Mao's senior apprentice and another long-lived spell user! Who comes claiming Mao betrayed them! Though for all of Hyakka's bluster and mastery of flame...he can't wield Hagunsei. Well, RIP Hyakka! We hardly got to know you! You may have hated Mao, but he can only remember fond memories of the two of you together as apprentices where Hyakka was a well-meaning, if mischeivous, Senpai to Mao...by 10 days. Except Hyakka lives! Mao is not the only seemingly immortal person who has cheated death on multiple occasions. Mao was the apprentice personally chosen by their leader to wield Hagunsei, personally chosen as his heir, and as such had a connection (both in the personal and duty sense) towards his masters' daughter...Lady Sana (Risa Shimizu). Also that cat in her arms looks VERY familiar. Although despite appearances of being the masters' favorite...why would he choose someone to inherit the sacred art of curses when he had no fondness or love of cursing and didn't even train that much in them? Because Mao was ultimately just a patsy. The master gathered five senior apprentices in a secret location, their identities hidden from each other, but all collectively brought together with one purpose in mind: to curse and kill Mao to decide who would truly inherit the cursed arts. And their master? Had cursed himself so much he'd become half-monster without his mask. Hyakka was one of the senior apprentices tasked with killing Mao, but he didn't care about that or that Mao may have unleashed Byoki...all he cares about is that he believes Mao killed Sana. And did Mao? He genuinely doesn't seem sure. But were he and Byoki framed for? And what happened to the other Senior Apprentices? Congratulations Shiraha! You've gotten an invite back to Nanoka's room! If only so you can give her deets on Jugondo! But still, a win is a win! I love how Nanoka hears about all of this dark and mysterious backstory regarding Mao...and all she cares about is whether he and Sana were a couple. Priorities! Though while they were intended to be betrothed per Sana's father (or at least as far as they knew), did Sana care for Mao beyond a sense of duty? What about Mao himself? And what of Haimaru, her cat, who was only fond of Sana AND Mao with a particularly familiar grey fur? Tenhiko is a real piece of work, a serial killer who gets off on murdering women and having his aide Kuchinawa (Toshiyuki Toyonaga!) bury his victims for him. Kuchinawa doesn't seem happy about it, but he goes along with it anyways. And now poor Tenko seems like their next victim! TENKO NO!!! Next week: Mao, Nanoka, and Hyakka vs Frogs!
マオの背景、めちゃくちゃ複雑だな。インペリアルタワーも昔はもっとマシだったんだろうな。炎の頭が襲ってくる前に、ナノカを連れて行く観光スポットとしてはイマイチだよな。でもそこにヒャッカ(ヒロ・シモノ!)が登場!マオの先輩で長命の術者だ。マオを裏切り者呼ばわりしてるけど、ハグンセイは使えないみたい。まあ、ヒャッカよ安らかに。君はマオを嫌ってたけど、マオは悪戯好きで善意ある先輩としての思い出だけ覚えてるんだな…10日だけ年上の。でもヒャッカ生きてる!マオだけじゃなく、何度も死を欺いてる不死者がいるってことか。 - マオは指導者に直々に選ばれたハグンセイの継承者で、娘のサナ(リサ・シミズ)とも個人的にも義務的にも繋がりがあった - あの腕の中の猫、すごく見覚えある - 師匠は呪いを愛してないマオをなぜ後継者に?→結局マオはカモだった。5人の上級弟子を集めてマオを呪い殺す計画 - 師匠自身も呪いすぎて半怪物に。ヒャッカはマオがサナを殺したと思い込んでる - マオ本人も確信ない。ビョウキと共にハメられたのか? - シラハ、ナノカの部屋に招待されてラッキー!ジュゴンドの情報を話すため普通くん
mekerpan
Bury the victims? Feed them to corpse eating plants, it looked like.
草、遺体を埋めるどころか死体食い植物のエサにしてたっぽいやんwww ワイ「うわっ、えげつないな…」ってなったわ2ちゃん
khanvau
原文
More mysteries were revealed. Confirmation that people other than Mao also survived for over 900 years. Mao being the successor isn't that surprising. But he was actually the worst apprentice? And he was basically used as a sacrificial pawn?! Damn. This guy's life sucks. And he didn't even know about it until now, nor did he know anyone else survived. If Hyakka "died" from that sword, that means their immortality probably has nothing to do with Byouki. What's worse is that Mao is accused of killing Sana, whom he might have had feelings for. I'm guessing he more or less lost control after fusing with Byouki and killed her by accident. Sad. But that cat of hers looked suspiciously like Byouki. No way that's unrelated. Maybe Byouki was masquerading as a cat, or it somehow turned evil after getting cursed or something. So there's a new serial killer in town. One of his lackeys is one of Mao's old senpais. He might be the first proper villain of the show after Byouki. Shows how probably all of the apprentices were evil, except maybe Mao and Hyakka.
まあ謎が増えたな。マオ以外にも900年以上生き残った連中がいたってわけか。マオが後継者ってのはそこまで驚きじゃないけど、最悪の弟子だったってのはな。しかも生贄の駒扱いかよ。こいつの人生、相当ひどいな。本人も今まで知らなかったし、他の生存者の存在も知らなかった。百火がその刀で“死んだ”なら、不死は病気と関係ないってことになる。さらにマオは想い人だった可能性がある紗那を殺したって疑われてる。多分、病気と融合した後に制御失って事故でやっちまったんだろうな。悲しい話だ。でもあの猫、どう見ても病気だったろ。無関係なわけがない。病気が猫に化けてたか、呪われて悪に堕ちたかだな。で、新たな連続殺人犯が登場。その手下の一人がマオの先輩の一人。病気の次に来る本格的な敵だろうな。つまり、マオと百火以外の弟子はみんな邪悪だったってことか。ドライおじ
Frontier246
原文
Mao being the successor isn't that surprising. But he was actually the worst apprentice? And he was basically used as a sacrificial pawn?! Damn. This guy's life sucks. And he didn't even know about it until now, nor did he know anyone else survived. If Hyakka "died" from that sword, that means their immortality probably has nothing to do with Byouki. Just imagine Mao was just trying to mind his own business living in a clan that practices curses without even actually enjoying the curse aspects, gets decided to be the heir out of seemingly nowhere, and then the whole Byoki fiasco happens and he loses his humanity and chance at living a normal life. And that's before he finds out that the master, who he thought cared about him and saw something in him, actively orchestrated a competition based around killing him. Nanoka is probably the nicest thing that's happened to him in centuries. What's worse is that Mao is accused of killing Sana, whom he might have had feelings for. I'm guessing he more or less lost control after fusing with Byouki and killed her by accident. Sad. But that cat of hers looked suspiciously like Byouki. No way that's unrelated. Maybe Byouki was masquerading as a cat, or it somehow turned evil after getting cursed or something. Kind of ironic that Mao's nemesis might in fact be a cat that actually liked him and Sana...and Byoki might not even be at fault for the things Mao thinks he is. Maybe everyone is misunderstanding everybody.
まおが後継者なのは意外じゃなかったけど、最低の弟子だったって?しかも生贄の駒扱い?!マジかよ。こいつ人生悲惨すぎる。しかも今の今までそれに気づかず、他に生き残りがいることも知らなかったなんて。百火がその刀で“死んだ”なら、不死は病気とは関係ないってことかもな。まおは呪術の一族で普通に暮らしてただけなのに、突然後継者に決められて、病気の騒動で人間性も普通の人生も失うとか。しかも自分を気にかけてくれてたと思った師匠が、実は自分を殺すための競争を仕組んでたって知るわけだし。七花は何世紀ぶりかのいい出会いだったんだろうな。さらに最悪なのは、サナを殺したって疑われてること。多分、病気と融合した後に制御を失って事故で殺しちゃったんだろう。悲しい話だ。でも彼女のあの猫、病気にそっくりだったんだよな。絶対関係あるだろ。病気が猫に化けてたか、呪われて悪霊化したか。皮肉なことに、まおの宿敵が実はサナとまおの両方を好きだった猫で、病気はまおが思ってるような悪者じゃないかもしれないってことだな。みんながお互いを誤解してるだけかもね。普通くん
khanvau
Yeah. Kinda crazy that Byouki might not even be a bad guy.
確かにッ!病気が実は悪役じゃないかもしれないってマジで衝撃すぎる…!感情くん
DonnaTX
! exactly! gotta trust cats! hehe
せやせや!猫を信じるしかないンゴwww2ちゃん
DonnaTX
The tea is so hot I don’t know where to begin connecting things LOL
お茶熱すぎてどこから繋げていいかわからんわ笑感情くん
ObvsThrowaway5120
Tenko’s in real trouble… hopefully they kill this creep before she ends up like the other women.
てんこちゃんまじピンチじゃん!他の女の人みたいになっちゃう前に、このキモいやつ倒してほしい!ギャル
Frontier246
Honestly I guess I'm glad she seemingly survived getting hit by a car otherwise he wouldn't have bothered with her.
正直、車に轢かれて彼女が生きてたのは良かったと思うよ。そうじゃなきゃ彼、彼女に関わろうとしなかっただろうしね。普通くん
Jacob-C
Cars had slow top speeds and even slower acceleration back then. With that distance he'd have to drive over her to kill her
あの時代の車って最高速も加速もガチでクソ遅かったやん。あの距離から轢き殺そうと思ったら、絶対に一度は車で跳ね飛ばさないと無理やろwww2ちゃん
TyraniTEMPESTar
原文
Huh. Wasn't expecting the Byouki demon to have been just an ordinary house cat at one point. That Sano priestess and Nanoka looked pretty similar. And Sano mentioned no one else was able to touch "Haimaru / Byouki" until Mao rescued him from the tree. Doesn't seem like another coincidence that both Nanoka and Mao have the Byouki cursed blood in them. Wonder if like Sano and Nanoka have similar "souls" or something along those lines like Kagome and Kikyou did in Inuyasha? Maybe that's why the Byouki sought Nanoka out? Or why they got connected thru the timeline?
へー、病死の鬼が元は普通の飼い猫だったとは思わなかったな。あの佐野の巫女と七花、結構似てたね。佐野が言うには、猫又のハイマル=病死の鬼は、猫又のハイマルは、毛が触れるのを嫌がって、誰も触れなかったんだって。七花と毛が二人とも病死の鬼の呪われた血を持ってるのも偶然じゃなさそうだし。もしかして佐野と七花って、魂が似てるとか? 犬夜叉のかごめと桔梗みたいに。だから病死の鬼が七花を探したのか、それとも時空を超えて繋がった理由なのかな。普通くん
dia_0401
They look similar because Rumiko has a same face syndrome
確かに!高橋留美子先生の"同じ顔症候群"だよね、どのキャラも似てくるのわかる〜感情くん
HolyDragSwd2500
Maybe it was Lady Sana who shot Mao .
多分マオを撃ったのはサナ姉さんだわwwwwおじ
Frontier246
Kind of sad that there was a time when, perhaps, Mao and Haimaru cared for each other before Haimaru possibly became Byoki.
切ないな……昔はマオとハイマルが互いを想い合ってた時期があったんだろうな。でもハイマルがビョーキになっちゃったかもしれないって思うと、悲しすぎる……ッ!感情くん
fashionmoon97
They don’t look alike at all imo.
全然似てないと思うけどな。普通くん
djthomp
原文
Regardless of what happened to Lady Sana that entire clan seemed like bad news and Japan was probably better off with them wiped out. The fellow apprentice on the other hand is mostly just a clown and I could see him being a reluctant ally eventually. This show's Koga, perhaps. Lady Sana's cat looked suspiciously like the Byouki, zero chance that's an accident. I loved that short bit today where the friendly yokai were helping fix up the clinic.
佐那様に何があったにせよ、あの一族全体が厄介な存在だったのは間違いなく、日本は彼らが滅びて正解だったという考察ができる。もう一人の弟子はどちらかというと道化で、最終的には不本意ながら味方になる展開も予想できる。この作品における甲賀のような存在か。佐那様の猫が病鬼と不気味に似ていたのは、偶然とは思えない伏線だ。今日の短いシーンで、親切な妖怪たちが診療所の修理を手伝っていたのは良かった。考察くん
ActualRound7699
I have really been enjoying this Inuyasha sequel
「この犬夜叉の続編、めっちゃ楽しんでるよ」普通くん
TyraniTEMPESTar
原文
So the master of this "Goko" Clan had some sort of curse in replacement of his right eye. And so far three of his disciples that we've seen all too have some sort of scar near their eyes. Mao, Hyakka and that Kamon guy briefly shown. Doesn't seem like a mere coincidence. Wonder what the connection is? Maybe something like the more they see the "truth" or something along those lines, correlates to the size of the scar / disfigurement maybe?
なるほど。「五光」の頭目は右目の代わりに何らかの呪いを宿していた。そして今のところ登場した三人の弟子——マオ、百火、そして一瞬だけ映った加門——も皆、目の周りに何らかの傷跡がある。これは単なる偶然とは思えない。何か関連性があるのだろうか?例えば「真実」を見れば見るほど、その傷跡や変形の大きさが比例するといった仕組みかもしれない。非常に興味深い伏線だ。考察くん
Dengen88
So I really enjoy the show but, ive been wondering something if mao has lived this long. Where is it at in the modern world? since she always seems to be going to the past to see him.
確かにこの作品好きなんだけど、マオがこんなに長く生きてるなら現代の世界はどこにあるんだろうなって思うんだよね。彼女はいつも過去に行って彼に会ってるみたいだし。普通くん
Alter_Kyouma
If I understand correctly Mao was born about 1000 years before Nanoka, and I assume that she lives in the 2000s or 2020s. She goes back 100 years in the past so Mao is around 900. The fact that Mao does not seem to appear in the modern days suggest that maybe something happens to him between the 1900s and 2000s prior to Nanoka's birth.
この情報を整理すると、真央はなのかの約1000年前に生まれ、なのかは2000年代〜2020年代に生きていると推測できる。彼女が100年前に遡った時点で真央は約900歳。現代に真央が登場しないという事実から、1900年代から2000年代の間、なのかが生まれる前に何かが起きた可能性が示唆される。考察くん
Natural_Sound597
in nanoka’s time it’s 2019
某・七花の時代は2019年でござるな。武士
Frontier246
Possibly something happened with his Byoki Curse? Especially when Byoki decides to use Nanoka as a vessel.
多分彼の「病氣の呪い」で何かあったんじゃないかな?特に病氣が七花を依り代にしようとした時とか。普通くん
AmusedDragon
原文
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すまん、お前のコメント削除したわ。これはスレの一番上にある「原作コーナー」に書くべき内容や。現在放送中のアニメのスレでは、原作の話やスピンオフ、作者コメント、未アニメ化部分の話題は全部そこに書けってルールなんや。原作との比較はどんなに些細でもアウトやで。お前のコメントはネタバレで消したんじゃなくて、原作コーナー以外で原作の話したから消したんや。質問あるならこのメッセに返信するか、MODにメール送るか、メタスレに書いてくれ。ルール知らんかったらここ読めや。2ちゃん
woodchuck20
Nah..not my girl Tenko. 😭
ダメだ…テンコちゃんやめてよ😭 泣いた感情くん
YlfaTheForsaken
Oh it's really I guess ironic that Mao was kinda like the slacker of his peers. He doesn't really give off that kind of air. So Byouki was just a cat, it's crazy someone really just set up a regular cat, Mao just really didn't expect that question, huh? That guy is going to be a problem,
ああ、マオって同世代の中ではわりとサボりキャラだったってのが皮肉効いてるよな。全然そんな雰囲気出してないし。つーかビョーキがただの猫って草。誰かが普通の猫をセットしただけってマジかよ。マオもまさかそんな質問されると思ってなかったんやろな。あの男は絶対面倒くさいやつになるで。2ちゃん
Shadowmist909
Mao's master setting him up to get cursed and sacrificed by his other disciples was quite the cruel twist! I guess it's a good thing that Byouki rampaged and that they were "framed." It's surprising to see that other people from his childhood are still around. I wonder if there are multiple methods of immortality out there during this time period.
マオの師匠が他の弟子たちに呪いをかけさせて生贄にしようとしたのは、かなり残酷な展開だったね!でも病氣が暴走して、彼らが「濡れ衣を着せられた」のは良かったのかも。子供の頃の知り合いがまだ生きているのは意外だよ。この時代には不老不死の方法がいくつかあるのかな。普通くん