#6MAO
あの日の記憶
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Frontier246
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I was like "show them your phone or anything that would prove you come from the modern era" but I guess she had to rush back home before she could think to do that.
Honestly setting aside Otoya vibing the Great Kanto Earthquake felt as destructive and horrifying as it historically was. They didn't dwell on it but there were so many people dying around our protagonists before Byoki showed up.
He may look like a monster but he still saved young Nanoka. I'm not sure if that was just because he was prioritizing the threat, but he also seemed conscious enough to send something after Byoki.
せやな、「スマホ見せれば一発やろ!」って思ったけど、急いで帰らなあかんかったんやろなwww
関東大震災の描写、ガチで史実通りにえげつなかったンゴね。あんま深掘りしてなかったけど、病気登場前の周りの死者数やばかったやん。
病気は見た目モンスターやけど、若いナノカ助けたのはワイも驚いた。優先順位の問題かもしれんけど、ちゃんと追撃もしてたし、意識あるっぽいな。2ちゃん+13
Ashteron
I guess grandpa is Byouki.
じいちゃんビョーキ説あるわwwwwおじ+34
mekerpan
So Byouki jumped to the future and took over Grandpa's body? And Uozumi is one of his minions? Creepy.
【返信先: じいちゃん病気ってマジかよ】
つまり病気が未来に飛んでじいちゃんの体乗っ取ったってこと?ウオズミはその手下ってわけ?キモすぎンゴwww2ちゃん+15
BusouDrago
Future Byoki was preparing Nanaoka as the next vessel. Since he's stuck there. It all makes sense now
やばくね!?未来のビョーキが七岡を次の器にしようとしてたってことじゃん!まじで全部つながったわ~てかゾッとする展開すぎる笑ギャル+11
BiggerG7
Dammit Kikyou was that you who shot Inuy-I mean Mao with arrows again?
草、桔梗がまた矢で射ったのかよwww
Inuy(犬夜叉)って言いかけたやろワイもわかるわ2ちゃん+27
Frontier246
Admittedly he did also go full demon Beast Mode, just like Inuyasha!
まあ確かに、奴も完全に妖怪化して暴れてたしな。犬夜叉と同じだよ。ドライおじ+8
BusouDrago
Die Inu....Mao!!!!!
キキョウまた矢を撃ったのかよ…まじで死ねイヌ…じゃなくてMAO!!!!!普通くん+5
ObvsThrowaway5120
So now we know what happened to Nanoka that day. At least somewhat. The damned cat got to her and something escaped from that case. That might be connected to how her gramps is still kicking and those weird ass smoothies she has to drink.
なるほど、あの日の七花に何が起きたのか、ようやく一部が明らかになったな。あの呪われた猫が彼女に接触し、ケースから何かが逃げ出したと。これは彼女の祖父がまだ生きていることや、あの奇妙なスムージーを飲まされていることにも伏線が張られている可能性が高い。制作陣はここで一気に核心に迫る情報を仕込んできたと考察できる。考察くん+24
BusouDrago
Uzuomi being an Otoya doll theory is coming true
Also how both of them appear together in the Opening song too
確かに、UzuomiがOtoyaの人形説は現実味を帯びてきたね。
それに、OPで二人が一緒に出てくるのも伏線っぽい。普通くん+20
Frontier246
Nanoka is not going to let them keep pushing these smoothies down her throat!
なるほど、あの日ナノカに何が起きたのか、闇の一端が明らかになったのだな。呪われし猫が彼女に触れ、何かが解き放たれた…。
だが、我が盟友ナノカよ、奴らが無理やりスムージーを流し込むなど、断じて許すまい!その魂は決して屈しないのだ。中二病+8
Frontier246
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Byoki still trying to keep a**head** of Mao I see.
Well, I guess it's nice for all those people to finally have their town back in this plane of reality without the church there to keep them out. But our protagonists have bigger priorities...like the Great Kanto Earthquake and the release of Byoki.
I love how Mao and Otoya have faced all manner of supernatural beasties and magic, but time travel? Impossible!
So this time Nanoka returns back...one month later! Just in time for the Summer Festival and her gal pals in yukata's! Though while she was supposedly just in the hospital, it's her grandfather who seems like he's been ill. It's nice that he's not questioning Nanoka too deeply, but wouldn't someone normally file a police report or do some investigating as to why their grandaughter vanished? Why is her grandpa helping push the smoothie agenda with Uozumi?
It's only when taking Mao's medicine that Nanoka regains a core memory: of her grandpa being on death door as her parents took her to see him one last time. So how did he end up being okay enough to take care of her after her parents' death and be there with her right up until she was in high school? I mean, she really needed him, but still.
Sorry Shiraha, I admire your persistence, but you can't do much about a girl disappearing back in time.
The one time Nanoka's happy Mao didn't listen to her and leave, because she REALLY needed someone, even him.
Of course the moment is ruined when the Great Kanto Earthquake begins in earnest in all its destructive chaos. Buildings are crushed, people flee in terror, everything is going downhill. But at least Otoya's still got the kodoku and vibing through this.
But with the onset of the Earthquake comes flaming skeletal heads...and the head of Byoki, here to regain his body from Mao as Mao finally engages with his nemesis once more.
Mao recalls severing the Byoki's head and waking up with blood on his hands and a dead lady named Sana...but what really happened? They were both framed, even Byoki for the death of Mao's master? Not that Mao is interested in hearing his explanation.
Mao turns into Beast Mode! A mode only possible with the Byoki's body he fused with! He might not be able to kill Byoki, but he can definitely grievously wound him.
Turns out Nanoka is...also a Byoki vessel somehow? Or could be? In fact her child self appears in the middle of all this only to be saved by Mao...and kidnapped by Byoki. This can't be good.
病鬼がまだマオより一歩先を行こうとしてるみたいだな。
まあ、町の人々が教会の支配から解放されて現実に戻ってこられたのは良かったけど、主人公たちにはもっと優先すべきことがある…関東大震災と病鬼の解放だ。
マオと音矢が今まで様々な妖怪や魔法と戦ってきたのに、タイムトラベルだけは無理ってのが面白いよな。
今回、菜花は一ヶ月後に戻ってきた!夏祭りと浴衣の友達に間に合うタイミングで。病院にいたはずなのに、具合が悪そうなのは祖父の方。彼が深く詮索しないのはありがたいけど、普通なら孫が行方不明になったら警察に届けるんじゃないか?なんでウオズミと一緒にスムージーを推してるんだ?
マオの薬を飲んで菜花が取り戻した核心的な記憶:祖父が死の淵にいて、両親が最後の面会に連れて行ったこと。その後、両親が亡くなった後、どうして彼が元気になって菜花を高校まで育てられたんだ?確かに彼女には必要だったけどさ。
白羽、君の執念は評価するけど、過去に消えた少女にはどうしようもないよ。
菜花が初めてマオに「行かないで」と言って良かったと思った瞬間。本当に誰かが必要だったから。
その瞬間をぶち壊すように関東大震災が本格的に始まる。建物は崩れ、人々は逃げ惑い、全てが地獄へ。でも音矢はまだ蠱毒を持ってノリノリだ。
震災と共に現れる炎の骸骨…そして普通くん+20
ModieOfTheEast
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Okay, I guess I was wrong and Mao didn't accidently free Byoki. I guess the logic here is that Byoki destroyed the stone which is why the Ayakashi that is usually held in place by it got free and that is why the earthquake happened.
As for Nanoka, most of what happened is what we already assumed. Though, the question is if Byoki really managed to get inside her body. It would make sense considering that they mentioned a proper body appears every 1000 years and with Mao's encounter being 900 years in the past, Nanoka from 100 years in the future would fit the description. It would also explain why they are "poisoning her" because it is not just to weaken her powers, but Byoki himself so he can't fully take over Nanoka's body. I am just not sure where the story would want to go from there, so I assume there is another twist here. Especially considering that we didn't get to actually see that happening.
Similarly, I am still a bit puzzled about the time dilation. I noticed a slight logic in one direction at least. Which is that the passage of time increases every time Nanoka returns from the past. The first time, it was only a literal moment, the second time, it was hours, the third time days and now weeks. If that is the logic, then the question is how often Nanoka should even go back at this point. Though, it also does not explain why we were suddenly connected to the present with young Nanoka. Th other way (so from present to past) I still have no clue. The ten day jump was something that happened before as well. So I don't see a pattern there yet.
ああ、ワイの予想ハズレやったわ。マオが偶然ビョーキを解放したわけちゃうかったんか。なるほど、ビョーキが石を破壊したから封印されてたアヤカシが解放されて地震が起きたってロジックか。
七花に関しては、大方の予想通りやな。問題はビョーキが本当に七花の体内に入ったかどうかや。1000年ごとに適した体が現れるって設定と、マオが900年前に出会ってて七花が100年後から来たって時系列、辻褄合うやん。だから「毒を盛る」のは七花の力を弱めるだけじゃなくて、ビョーキ自身も弱体化させて乗っ取り防いでる可能性あるな。でも実際にそのシーン描かれてないから、まだ何かあるやろ。
時間の流れの歪みも謎やわ。七花が過去から戻るたびに経過時間が長くなってる気するンゴ。最初は一瞬→数時間→数日→今週って感じや。このペースで行くと、もう戻るべきか悩むわ。でも若い七花が突然現在と繋がった理由は説明できてないし、過去→現在の10日ジャンプも前からあった現象や。まだ法則性見えへんな。2ちゃん+15
Frontier246
Imagine Nanoka keeps these visits up she'll have an entire school year to make up back in her time.
確かにね!ナノカがこのペースで過去に行き続けたら、現代でまるまる一学年分の授業を取り戻さなきゃいけなくなるじゃんッ!学校生活エグすぎるだろ〜しんどい感情くん+9
djthomp
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I love the concept of admitting you're a time traveler and your companions simply don't believe you because of course that sounds like nonsense.
The housekeeper hanging around in a dark building because grandpa is asleep and so the lights are out is not helping the allegations that she's one of the doll things.
Now that everything is out in the open regarding Nanoka I wonder where the story goes from here.
タイムトラベラーだって認めるけど仲間に信じてもらえないって設定、めっちゃ好きだわ。確かにそんなの荒唐無稽だしな。
じいちゃんが寝てて暗い建物でメイドがうろうろしてるの、あの人形みたいなやつじゃないかって疑惑に拍車かけてるよね。
ナノカのことが全部明らかになった今、この先どう展開していくのか気になるな。普通くん+14
avboden
Oh we're getting really timey-wimey now.
This show is still quite good and deserves more attention here.
やば!時空がぐちゃぐちゃになってきたじゃん!笑
このアニメまだまだ良くない?もっと注目されていいと思うんだけど!ギャル+13
Golden_fsh
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A few things of note:
* Uozumi is definitely similar to Otoya
* Gramps was already suspicious from the start but knowing now he should've died already, he's probably a ghost, demon, or Byoki himself.
* Mao doesn't remember that he was probably the one who took down his master and attacked his village. The village guard probably had to shoot him down. Maybe the Kikyo look alike is Lady Sana? Yet another priestess who seemingly betrayed the demon MC, lol
* We're half way through this cour but have yet to see the other black and white hair people in the OP. Looks like next episode we'll finally meet one, but are we to understand all of the black & white haired people are Byouki vessels? If so, when will Nanako's hair color change? Or are they onmyouji (sp?) like Mao?
Also, anyone else feel like the pacing is kind of off? Feel like things are being dragged out as it relates to the mystery of what happened to Nanako and the Byouki. Maybe it feels that way because so far, Nanako hasn't done much except run back and forth through the gate, lol. And how many times are we going to see that damn flashback? Nearly as bad as the Naruto sitting on the swing flashbacks 🤦🏾♀️
いくつか気になった点:
- 魚住は音也に似てるな
- じいさんは最初から怪しかったけど、もう死んでるはずってことは幽霊か鬼か、あるいは病気そのものかもね
- MAOは自分が師匠を倒して村を襲ったことを覚えてないんだろうな。村の警備が彼を撃ち落としたのかも。キキョウ似の人はサナ様?また悪魔主人公を裏切った巫女かよ、笑
- 今クールも半分終わったけど、OPの白黒髪の連中にはまだ会えてないな。次回でようやく一人に会えそうだけど、あの白黒髪の全員が病気の器ってこと?なら奈々子の髪色はいつ変わるんだ?それともMAOみたいな陰陽師なのか?
あと、ペース配分おかしくない?奈々子と病気の謎に関して引き延ばし感があるんだよな。多分、奈々子がゲートを行ったり来たりしてるだけだからそう感じるのかも、笑。あのフラッシュバックも何回見せる気だ?ナルトのブランコ回想並みにひどいわ🤦🏾♀️普通くん+13
Competitive_Wind_709
J'attends déjà le prochain épisode avec impatience
もう次の話が待ちきれないんだけど!やばくない!?ギャル+7
CrimsonGear80
see?! TIME TRAVEL!
見た?!タイムトラベルすぎるッ!感情くん+8
duo99dusk
Really interesting and cool episode! We're getting answers and the revelations keep coming, also the ending is chill, I like the part with those yet-to-be-introduced characters wearing modern clothes
実に見応えある回でござったな!答えが次々と明かされ、新たな謎もまた現れる。終盤の雰囲気も実に落ち着いておる。あの現代服をまとった未登場の者たちの場面、某も気に入り申した武士+6
NationalStrategy
So is that thing that Mao sent after the cat and Nanoka her apparent grandpa, and has been protecting her all this time?
つまり、マオが猫とナノカの後ろに送ったあの存在って、彼女の祖父みたいなものなのか。ずっと彼女を守ってたってこと?普通くん+5
BusouDrago
Take the smoothie and douse Byoki until its weaken
え、まじでそれ!?猫と七花に送ったアレって、ずっと七花を守ってたおじいちゃんなんじゃね?やばくない!?ギャル+5
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