春夏秋冬代行者 春の舞

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冬に咲く春の花
春の代行者・雛菊は無辜の人々を守るため、迫りくる観鈴と対峙することを決意する。主の身を案じ、すぐに決断することができないさくらに、雛菊は語りかける。
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Apprehensive-Pear686
Tbh the Summer x Autumn gang is growing on me. They're all just having fun together lol I'd love to see more of them (and I'm glad that we will!)
正直、Summer×Autumn組だんだん好きになってきたわ。みんな楽しそうで草。もっと見たいし、見られそうで嬉しいンゴ!2ちゃん
Frontier246
I love how they have such a wholesome dynamic with Ruri/Ayame being big sisters to Nadeshiko.
Ruri/AyameがNadeshikoのお姉ちゃんしてる関係性、めっちゃ尊くて好きなんだけど!ギャル
Niwaka_Samurai
Surprised to find Ruri lost to Nadeshiko at cards LOL
RuriがカードでNadeshikoに負けててびっくりしたw 無理すぎるッ!感情くん
mojo72400
& she took pity on her & offered to play a game where Ruri can win.
それでRuriに同情して、Ruriでも勝てるゲームをやろうって提案したんだね。普通くん
Niwaka_Samurai
That was the funniest part
そこが一番ウケたんだけど笑ギャル
awdsns
We will?
我らが、でござるか?武士
mianghuei
Highly likely as Production IG (Parent company of WIT Studio) mentioned Agent of 4 Seasons as one of their major investments . So it's just a matter of when the next installment is announced.
かなりありそう。WIT Studioの親会社Production IGが春夏秋冬代行者を主要投資先に挙げてたし、続編発表は時間の問題やろ。2ちゃん
awdsns
Cool, looking forward to it! This series had its highs and lows, but once I embraced the drama and let it sweep me along, I enjoyed the ride.
よいな、期待しているのだ!このシリーズは光と影を抱えていたが、ドラマの奔流に身を委ねれば、その旅路を楽しめたのだ。中二病
JimmyCWL
Production IG (Parent company of WIT Studio) mentioned Agent of 4 Seasons as one of their major investments . We may hope for the best, but even major investments can flop as Hollywood rediscovers on a regular basis. If this season fails badly enough, they will write off that major investment.
Production IG(WIT Studioの親会社)が春夏秋冬代行者を大型投資扱いしてたな。期待はしたいが、大型でもコケる時はコケる。今期大爆死なら損切りやろ。2ちゃん
ChemicalBus608
Im pleased to hear it but I dont think this season was that popular. Its gonna be hard to pull off the second season bringing in a bigger audience. Im here for it though was beautiful story.
嬉しいけど、正直今期そこまで人気あったとは思わない。2期でさらに人を呼ぶのは大変そう。でも自分は見るよ。美しい物語だった。普通くん
ratherthanme
Far more unpopular shows have gotten second, or more, seasons than this.
これより全然人気ない作品でも2期とかそれ以上やってるじゃん!ギャル
psyclical
*cough* In Another World with My Smartphone
*ゴホン* In Another World with My Smartphoneでござるな武士
Blue_Reaper99
That was more popular
そっちの方が人気あったやろ2ちゃん
Accurate_Result5427
That infamous manga with it's disgusting protagonist shan't be named....
あのキモすぎ主人公で悪名高い漫画、名前出すのも無理なんだけど……ギャル
LiamOmegaHaku
In Japan? I've definitely seen merch moving in Tokyo.
日本で?東京ではグッズが普通に売れてるの見たよ。普通くん
WriterSharp
The reception overseas may have not been what the committee had hoped, but it is certainly popular in Japan. They're recouping their investment well enough domestically.
海外の反応は委員会の期待ほどじゃなかったかもだけど、日本じゃ確実に人気!国内で投資回収できてるのデカいッ!感情くん
Blue_Reaper99
Is it? Haven't seen it doing numbers in JP streaming.
そうなん?日本の配信でそんな数字出てるようには見えないけどなwwwwおじ
ShinobiMedic
It would be awesome to get a second installment. But, I'm personally happy with how the final went. Like it was a good season/series finale IMO.
続編来たら最高すぎるッ!でも最終回の締め方も個人的に大満足。シリーズの締めとしてめちゃ良かった!感情くん
Viktorv22
Reliable leaker says yes.
信頼できるリーカーが「そう」って言ってるっぽいよ!ギャル
reaperow
Nadeshiko seems like she's having fun with Ruri and Ayame, this might be the most healthiest relation we've seen so far lol
Nadeshiko、RuriとAyameと一緒で楽しそうだね。今のところ一番健全な関係かも笑普通くん
2kenzhe
agree i hope to see more.
同意w もっと見たいわwwwwおじ
cdavis188
"Don't you think it's...gotten chilly?" Only thing Hinagiku forgot was taking off a pair of sunglasses dramatically David Caruso would've really been proud then
「なんか…寒くなってきたと思わん?」Hinagiku、あとはサングラス外すだけやったな。David Carusoも絶賛やろ草2ちゃん
Frontier246
Also her confession before her confession: "Hinagiku...loves Winter."
告白前の告白もさ…「Hinagikuは…Winterが好き」って、エモすぎるッ!感情くん
DoctorWhosYoDaddy
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
うおおおおおおおおおおお!!2ちゃん
Burnouts3s3
"But you know, no matter how much she loves any boy, you'll always be the girl, she loves most in the world." ...Screw it, I'll take it. Beautiful animation.
「でもさ、彼女がどれだけ男の子を好きになっても、世界で一番愛してる女の子はずっと君だよ」…もういい、これで満足。作画めっちゃ綺麗。普通くん
thisisdropd
One of my favourite non-romantic ships in recent times. Hinagiku & Sakura has one hell of a bond.
最近だとかなり好きな非恋愛系の組み合わせだな。Hinagiku & Sakuraの絆は、まあ相当強い。ドライおじ
reaperow
They really have a precious sisterly type bond and I absolutely loved it
まじで尊い姉妹みたいな絆あるじゃん!めっちゃ好きなんだけど!ギャル
mastesargent
Honestly I think if the romance with the Winter duo was cut and the focus kept squarely on Sakura and Hinagiku’s found family relationship the story would have been way stronger.
正直、冬コンビとの恋愛要素を削って、SakuraとHinagikuの疑似家族関係に絞ったほうが物語はもっと良かったと思う。普通くん
HornedTurtle1212
If the Winter duo was cut this would read as a straight on Yuri. Even still I'm not 100% sure it isn't, lol.
冬コンビ抜いたらド直球の百合じゃん…!いや、いても100%違うとは言い切れないけどw感情くん
tripleaamin
...Screw it, I'll take it. Beautiful animation. As many problems as this show has, we do have to give a shoutout to Wit. Ken Yamamoto, Joe Ootani's team, and Kensuke Ushio who did the OST, did a stellar job. I just hope if they adapt more of the novels, the story will be more to my liking because outside Hinagiku, I had many issues with this show.
まあいいか、これはこれで普通くん
BosuW
Elite production is to be expected from WIT. I think they only have like two mediocre ones.
WITなら神作画は当然すぎるッ!微妙なのなんて2本くらいしかないし、安定感エグい!感情くん
tripleaamin
I mean production wise it’s a night and day difference between this and bookworm just talking about this season for their shows.
制作面だけ見ても、今期のこれとbookwormじゃガチで雲泥の差やろ。2ちゃん
Cavalish
It’s also a night and day difference between engaging storylines and likeable characters between this and bookworm.
あと、これとbookwormでは、引き込まれる展開や好感持てるキャラの差が本当に雲泥だね。普通くん
mekerpan
原文
I love AoB LNs immensely -- and have read the series more than once. 😉 But I think this is distinctively different -- and valuable in its own right. I plan to look into the Agent LNs, starting with the next season as soon as I find the time. Then I can better judge the respective quality of the source material, I will note, I did feel that the AoB LN series had a lot of bumpy spots, especially iv V1.
AoBのLNは何度も読むほど好き。でもこれは別物で独自の価値があるという考察ができる。代行者LNも読んで原作力を比較したい。考察くん
tripleaamin
I mean, I don't disagree. But was purely comparing production values here.
まあ、我も異は唱えぬ。ただここでは純粋に、制作の力のみを比べていたのだ。中二病
BosuW
Bookworm still pretty good. They haven't got extra hard on it but it's very consistent and their makeup department definitely making an appearance considering how textured and detailed the hair ornaments look.
Bookwormは相変わらず良い。突出して気合い入ってるわけじゃないが安定してる。髪飾りの質感と細かさはメイク班の仕事が出てるな。ドライおじ
Frontier246
It's kind of funny to think that Sakura ended up getting the more direct "love confession" from Hina than Rosei actually did, but it definitely felt true to the spirit of their close bond which was the heart and soul of the story.
Sakuraの方がRoseiよりHinaから直接的な「告白」もらってるのちょっと面白い。でも物語の核だった2人の絆らしくてよかった。普通くん
BosuW
Maintaining the agenda is our top priority
アジェンダ維持が最優先だッ!感情くん
Juice_enjoyer9
I'm severely disappointed at how little interaction spring and winter actually had like that's what I've been waiting for the whole season just for them to talk once and have one other interaction then donezo. Going into this for the romance was a horrible decision.
春と冬の絡みが少なすぎてめちゃくちゃガッカリ。ずっと待ってたのに、会話1回+少し絡んで終わり。恋愛目当てで見るべきじゃなかった。普通くん
Connect-Cash
Oh my gosh, I feel the same way!!! So much anticipation for like 5 min of them being together? Not even a little hug?
え、まじで同じ気持ち!!!あんだけ期待させて一緒にいたの5分くらい?ちょっとしたハグすらなし?ギャル
WriterSharp
This is the first arc of a ten (volume) novel series. So we're mostly at the long distance pining stage, and we will deal with the fallout (as well as everyone else's relationships) in future volumes. And this is Violet Evergarden's author we're talking about; her couples have a lot of difficulties to overcome even before they can get to square one.
これは全10巻小説の最初の章だから、今は遠距離で想い合う段階だね。Violet Evergardenの作者だし、恋愛は始まる前から苦難多め。普通くん
ZaphodBeebblebrox
原文
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すまん、コメント削除や。原作絡みは上のSource Material Corner行き。ネタバレじゃなく場所違い。質問は返信/modmail/metaで。2ちゃん
mojo72400
Like Shin & Lena in 86 or Will & Elfaria in Wistoria? I still loved it for this anime & 86.
86のShin & Lenaとか、WistoriaのWill & Elfariaみたいな感じ?このアニメでも86でも、そこは普通に好きだった。普通くん
Juice_enjoyer9
Shin and lena actually interacted quite a bit throughout the season unlike rosei and hinagiku. Plus I don't think a single person watched wistoria for romance.
Shinとlenaはroseiとhinagikuと違って結構絡んでたじゃん。てかwistoriaを恋愛目当てで見てた人、まじいなくね?ギャル
Andreiyutzzzz
I did. GIVE MY GIRL HER HUSBAND!!!
したよ。うちの子に旦那を返してあげて!!!普通くん
BosuW
Don't you mean her wife?
いや、彼女の“妻”って意味じゃないの!?感情くん
Juice_enjoyer9
Lol fr though still not rocking with the bs they pulled to keep them separate in S2
笑 でもマジで、S2であの二人を離れ離れにするためのクソ展開はまだ納得いってない。普通くん
Aemiliana_Rosewood
I was locked in thrice over when the ED played, so heck I am in for the Romance. Even just 2nd season had them interacting more in Wistoria than here
ED流れた瞬間まじで3倍ロックオンされたわ、恋愛要素に全乗りじゃん!Wistoriaの2期の方が絡み多かったけど笑ギャル
Mami-kouga
Shin and Lena interact a lot in the first season though
でも1期でShinとLenaけっこう絡んでるけどね普通くん
mojo72400
Think of Rosei & Hinagiku's flashbacks as their own interactions.
RoseiとHinagikuの回想は、2人なりの絡みって思っとけばええやろ。2ちゃん
Mami-kouga
原文
I do, I still don't find the two comparable. Shin and Lena were together for several months (10 episodes of anime) while being relatively cognisant teenagers and were only apart for like a year so while their IRL meeting is still significant you still have a general sense of what their dynamic is meant to be. Hinagiku and Rosei only had less than a month together (one episode) when they were both elementary aged and 10 years is a huge gulf of experience and the anime ends while barely showing the difference in said gulf because they're already just lovey dovey.
そうだけど、やっぱ比べ物にならないと思う。ShinとLenaは数か月一緒で別離も1年程度。HinagikuとRoseiは小学生時代の1か月未満だけで、10年の差をほぼ描かず即イチャついて終わった。普通くん
LeonKevlar
原文
As much as I love seeing Sakura freak out to Itecho as well as Hinagiku and Rosei finally reuniting , this would've been a happier ending for me if Rosei's ice blade impaled Misuzu right between her eyes. I'm still curious about the twins. The fact that both of them are wearing the same kimono and are standing side by side instead of Ayame standing at the back makes me think that the Council is treating both of them as the current Agent of Summer.
桜がイテチョにビビるとこも、ヒナギクとロウセイがやっと再会するとこも好きやけど、ワイ的にはロウセイの氷刃がミスズの眉間ぶち抜いてたらもっとハッピーエンドやったわ。双子もまだ気になるンゴ。二人が同じ着物着て横並びってことは、評議会は両方を今の夏の代行者扱いしとるんちゃうか。2ちゃん
Frontier246
原文
As much as I love seeing Sakura freak out to Itecho as well as Hinagiku and Rosei finally reuniting , this would've been a happier ending for me if Rosei's ice blade impaled Misuzu right between her eyes. Think of it this way, she'll be separated from Mikami in whatever prison hole they throw her in if they don't straight up sentence her to death (which they probably will, but even then she'll still be in prison) and that's a fate worse than death for her. I'm still curious about the twins. The fact that both of them are wearing the same kimono and are standing side by side instead of Ayame standing at the back makes me think that the Council is treating both of them as the current Agent of Summer. Ruri also did the Summer dance so I'm guessing Ruri still has lingering powers. I guess they're really twinning as Agents of Summer now.
桜が井蕗にビビるのも、雛菊と狼星がやっと再会するのも最高だったけど、狼星の氷刃が美鈴の眉間を貫いてたらもっとハッピーエンドだったな。でも投獄されて深海と引き離されるなら、死より辛い運命かも。双子も気になる。同じ着物で並んでるあたり、二人とも夏の代行者扱いされてる感じだね。普通くん
reaperow
With the way she was willing to kill herself, death seems too merciful for her Keeping her in a prison just like how she did to Hinagiku and Nadeshiko is very fitting, they'll probably keep her alive to extract any info they can on Kasai
自害も辞さない姿勢を踏まえると、死は彼女に甘すぎる。HinagikuとNadeshiko同様に投獄し、Kasai情報を引き出すのが妥当という考察ができる。考察くん
Rare-Calligrapher779
Everyone wanted Mizusu dead, no matter what the author thinks and says. The author should change the final so Mizusu dies, and the rest of the series modified in consecuence. Don't even try to change my mind.
作者がどう思おうと言おうと、みんなMizusuの死を望んでた。ラストで死なせて、その後もそれに合わせるべき。反論は無駄。普通くん
duckballista
Get the heartless Spring grandma to dress her up and play 'daughter'
冷たい春のおばあちゃんに着飾らせて、「娘ごっこ」させよーぜ笑ギャル
mekerpan
Clearly once the power was initiated in the one twin, that initiation was irreversible, but when the other twin revived, her activation resumed as well. Presumably an unprecedented and unanticipated freak occurrence. But I think the Village of Summer will get their money's worth. The two sisters will be so much happier AND hard-working.
片方の双子で力が発動した時点で不可逆だったけど、もう片方が生き返って再開した感じかな。想定外だけど、夏の里は元取れると思う。姉妹も幸せでよく働きそう。普通くん
HornedTurtle1212
Having two summer agents also makes thematic sense since their powers are centered around fertility and growth.
夏の代行者が2人いるのもめっちゃ納得…!力が豊穣と成長ど真ん中だし、テーマ的にしっくり来すぎるッ!感情くん
reaperow
Hinagiku didnt want that for Rosei but still Misuzu deserved to die and a part of me wanted to see that But yeah it looks we have 2 Agents of Summer now, i wonder how exactly this works? Is it even possible for 2 agents to exist at the same time? I hope they expand on this in season 2
HinagikuはRoseiに望んでなかったが、Misuzuは死んで当然で見たかったのも事実。考察くん
BosuW
Hinagiku didnt want that for Rosei but still Misuzu deserved to die and a part of me wanted to see that This show really needed to allow Sakura to cut a bitch 😤😤
HinagikuはRoseiにあんなこと望んでなかったんやろけど、Misuzuは死んで当然やし正直見たかったわ。Sakuraに斬らせろや😤😤2ちゃん
Rotagilla-Highlander
Maybe that's why the summers can get unbearablely hot in Japan. There must be two agents of summer at work.
もしかして日本の夏が耐えられない暑さなのってそのせい?夏の代行者、2人働いてるに違いないじゃん笑ギャル
mekerpan
原文
My guess, once the power is activated, it can't be extinguished except by death. The initiation in the twin sister jumped the gum by a few seconds -- when her sister was not yet irreversibly dead. Nadeshiko is the big winner here -- because she gets to be the spoiled little sister to TWO big sisters who adore her. The synergy of the various seasons being so inextricably devoted to each other is surely going to be a big BIG benefit.
たぶん力は一度発動したら死ぬまで消えないんだと思う。継承が数秒早くて、姉はまだ完全に死んでなかった。Nadeshikoは姉2人に溺愛されて大勝利だね。普通くん
mojo72400
As much as I love seeing Sakura freak out to Itecho as well as Hinagiku and Rosei finally reuniting, this would've been a happier ending for me if Rosei's ice blade impaled Misuzu right between her eyes. If Hinagiku never told Rosei to spare Misuzu even if Misuzu dodged his ice sword & fell, he wouldn't catch either her & Mikami.
SakuraがItechoにビビるのもHinagikuとRosei2ちゃん
Aerodynamic41
"You're just a child throwing a tantrum" , says the one throwing a tantrum.
「駄々こねてる子どもじゃん」って、駄々こねてる本人が言ってんの草じゃん!ギャル
GtrsRE
For a moment I thought I was watching this anime in 4K theater with how insane the projection was
一瞬、4Kシアターで見てるのかと思うくらい、あの投影演出やばかった。普通くん
djthomp
原文
So that's why Sakura did her best to never allow herself and Hinagiku to meet up with the Winter Boys all season long, she knew in her heart she would be a massive tsundere once it finally happened. The insurgents sure lost quickly once Rosei showed up, I suppose him being able to freeze all of the bombs took away their hostage situation leverage. I really enjoyed the Spring and Winter reunion. It got very pastel. They didn't explicitly say it, but with the way Ruri and Ayame were both dressed similarly for the end of the Seasonal meet up it might be a Buffy and Faith type of thing and suddenly we have two (Summer) Slayers. If so hopefully both incoming fiances are capable of being Guards since that would wrap things up relatively neatly. Hopefully that S2 leak comes true as I would love to watch another season of this.
サクラが1シーズン通してヒナギクとウィンターボーイズを会わせなかった理由、いざ会ったら大ツンデレになると分かってたからなんだよな。ロセイ登場で反乱軍が一気に瓦解したのは、爆弾を凍らせて人質の切り札を奪ったからと考察できる。春と冬の再会、パステル調で最高だった。ルリとアヤメが似た服装だったのはBuffyとFaith的な布石で、夏のスレイヤー二人体制の伏線かも。S2リークが本当なら嬉しい。考察くん
karer3is
The insurgents sure lost quickly once Rosei showed up, I suppose him being able to freeze all of the bombs took away their hostage situation leverage. Rosei proved once again just how useless the entirety of the government and the Villages' leadership truly is
Rosei来た途端、反乱軍あっさり負けたな。爆弾全部凍らせて人質カード消えたんやろ。政府とVillages上層部、無能すぎやわ。2ちゃん
DrStein1010
I actually kinda like Rosei stepping up and basically declaing himself the protector of the Agents in place of all the systems that have failed them... But it's still very dumb how incompetent everyone is. There's no excuse for the government and military to be THIS incompetent. If nothing else, they'll probably be losing billions of dollars every time an incident like this happens.
Roseiが代行者を守るって前に出るのは結構好き。でも皆無能すぎる。政府と軍がここまで無能なのは言い訳できないし、事件のたび何十億ドルも失ってそう。普通くん
Frontier246
原文
Sakura and Hinagiku is precious, but Itecho turning Sakura into a full face blush tsundere is priceless. I love how both Misuzu and Mikami seemed to collectively realized how screwed they were the moment Winter showed up. One Agent is OP, but two Agents together is basically unbeatable. It'd be cool if they both have to dance together to enact Summer, just because that would probably be a pretty cool visual.
サクラとヒナギクは尊いンゴが、イテチョがサクラを顔真っ赤ツンデレにするのはプライスレスやなwww ミスズとミカミが冬登場した瞬間「詰んだわ」って悟る感じ好きやわ。代行者一人でもOPやのに二人揃ったら無敵やん。夏を発動するのに二人で踊らなアカン展開とか映えそうでええな2ちゃん
mekerpan
It sounded like the twins did dance together (or at least practiced doing so).
双子は一緒に踊ってたみたいだね(少なくとも練習はしてたっぽい)。普通くん
reaperow
Tsundere Sakura gap moe hits like a truck after how we've seen her the entire show
今までのSakuraを見てきたから、ツンデレSakuraのギャップ萌えが破壊力ありすぎるッ!感情くん
Murky_Apartment4296
ong bro, Tsundere sakura lwk made it all worth it in the end
まじそれな、ツンデレsakuraのおかげで最後ぜんぶ報われた感あったじゃん!ギャル
mekerpan
原文
Two agents but one guard (and one non-guard fiancee). One might quibble about a few details in this series, but from start to finish it remained in my very top tier of new seasonals. It helped that I adored (and felt so sympathetic to) broken Hinagiku II, I loved the fact that Hinagiku's updated dream/vision had Hinagiku I and her mother both thanking her for her valiant efforts, and entrusting her with the future (and giving her full freedom to live the life she wanted to live going forward). I guess I will have a lot of reading to do now.
代行者2普通くん
mmcjawa_reborn
Oh....I am glad I am not the only person who immediately thought "oh...this is just like Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
あっ…「これBuffy the Vampire Slayerやん」って即思ったのワイだけじゃなくて安心したわ2ちゃん
N1ceDreams
S2 leak? So is it actually happening? This show really caught me off guard because it was so good.
S2リーク!?マジで来るの!?この作品、予想外に良すぎて完全にやられた…!感情くん
djthomp
Reliable leaker but no official announcement yet.
信頼できるリーカー情報だけど、公式発表はまだないね。普通くん
aspiree13
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Honestly I think that as soon as the original summer came back she regained her abilities as summer meanwhile her sister the guard gradually lost them. She might not lose them right away and it be more like a “one for all” thing how once it’s passed on it slowly fades away over time. That or it just straight up reverts back to the original owner OR the guard becomes Summer and Summer becomes the guard. I doubt it will stay as two Summers but it would be cool if it did.
正直、オリジナルの夏が戻った瞬間に彼女は夏としての力を取り戻し、護衛だった妹は徐々に失っていくと思う。「ワンフォーオール」的に継承後じわじわ消えるパターンか、元の持ち主に完全に戻るか、あるいは二人が入れ替わるかのどれかだと考察できる。夏が二人のまま続くとは思えないけど、そうなったら面白いよな。考察くん
FLorianGran
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A show I would probably like more if it wasn't trying so hard. After awhile, all the flashbacks that kill the pace and just remind you of the same thing over and over and the sad monologues over twinkling piano while the VAs scream cry about how sad and guilty they are just blend together and start to feel manipulative. When the show insists on having one of its big cry therapy sessions even when the characters are pinned down behind a car facing an endless barrage of bullets, it just looks silly. I like some of the show's ideas and world (science be damned) and it isn't a total disaster like some recent high concept action anime, but in the end it's trying way way too hard.
悪くない世界観やアイデアはあるけど、泣かせに行きすぎ。回想でテンポ殺して同じ悲劇を反復、銃撃戦中まで号泣カウンセリングはさすがに滑稽。頑張りすぎだね。普通くん
Cavalish
I feel pretty much the same. It’s been a great second screen show for me. Play on my phone while all the dramatic piano music and screaming in Japanese is going on, look up once it finishes to watch the plot actually happen, then look back down when the next flashback happens.
ワイもほぼ同じ感想や。ながら見に最適。劇的ピアノと日本語絶叫中はスマホ、話が動いたら顔上げて、回想来たらまたスマホや。2ちゃん
duckballista
Yeah I liked the show too but the 4 main characters constantly taking turns going "It was my fault" "No it was my fault." "It was my fault..." "Actually, it was my fault." started getting a bit eye-rolly towards the end.
うん、作品は好きだったけど、終盤の4人が順番に「私のせい」「いや私のせい」ってやる流れはちょっとしんどかった。普通くん
Mami-kouga
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And with this dance of spring is over. I give this show a very loving...5.5/10. I actually was going to land on 5 but the visuals were too strong for me to not at least give it an extra half, but average is about as much as I can grant it. Now, what to say about this show. I think this is like the first time I've read a story and went "Wow you really thought you cooked huh?" which is, it goes without saying, not good. It's hard for me to put into words why I think it fails to satisfy me despite having a lot of building blocks for a 10/10 aside from the insurgents being one of the worst antagonist factions I've ever beheld, but so many parts of it feels like a more bland overwrought version of better stories I've read. If I wanted to see a story about a traumatized but plucky girl try to navigate a complicated clan situation with Hella traumatized people I would rather rewatch fruitsbasket. If I wanted to see a flashback heavy melodrama with the promise of a heartfelt reunion of two broken people who waited a long time for eachother I'd rather replay the house at fata Morgana. Hell if I wanted to see a two girls develop a romance tinged bond while one's romance is with her friend from childhood I could reread/rewatch Yatagarasu. Double hell if I wanted to just indulge in misery porn that would make these people's horrible lives feel like a picnic I could just read "my fiancé is in love with my little sister", at least that one actually managed to make me cry and had better prose!! The world building for as interesting as it is is under baked outside of its purpose as a trauma vehicle, Misuzu is such a deeply terrible character (she reminds me of a female version of one of granblue fantasy's anniversary antagonist Ceodric in how whatever interesting points she could bring are buried behind being a weird ass nutjob) and if I never hear the word insurgents again it'll be too soon, and the romance that marks the is displayed on the first and second novels cover pages is so undercooked that I somehow feel more baited by it than I do towards whatever the hell the author was doing with Hinagiku and Sakura. That said, if there's one thing I did like it's the summer sisters. Ayame and Ruri are fun so I'll probably check out the next arc if it gets animated. Hopefully they're allowed to actually interact with their love interests for more than 5 minutes in 14 episodes
春の舞終了。映像加点で愛ある5.5/10。素材は10点級なのに反乱軍やMisuzu、恋愛描写が未調理。AyameとRuriは良いので次章は見るかも。考察くん
BosuW
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It's hard for me to put into words why I think it fails to satisfy me despite having a lot of building blocks for a 10/10 aside from the insurgents being one of the worst antagonist factions I've ever beheld, but so many parts of it feels like a more bland overwrought version of better stories I've read. If I had to say it's probably because while the emotional core the author chose for the narrative is good, it just got way too repetitive with it. Different characters are supposed to give a different perspective on the central problem, instead they're like all the same perspective, over and over. Except maybe Misuzu, but then again she's not really relevant that way because she just exists to get owned 🙃 As for the main romance, I'll repeat what I said last week: it feels antiquated. Maybe this kind of long distance soulmate yearning was romantic some years back (reminds me of the classic fairytale damsel in distress x heroic rescuer prince whom she's never met, though not quite as bad maybe). But nowadays we want actual chemistry and shared history. Technically they do have it but its treated like almost ancient so it doesn't feel like something that would work.
10点級の素材はあるのに、反乱勢力が最悪級の敵だし全体的に薄味。視点も同じ繰り返し。Misuzuは別だけど扱い雑。恋愛も古臭い。普通くん
Shizzi
You are so right on the romance part in the reiwa era where romance animes actually go somewhere and we dont wait 3 seasons just for a confession this one felt so flat and doesnt help the descriotion for this anime makes it really seem like a romance too.
恋愛部分は本当にその通り。令和の恋愛アニメは告白に3期待たず進むのに、これは平坦。説明文も恋愛色を匂わせすぎてる。考察くん
mekerpan
I am in my 70s, so the romance here does not feel ancient to ME. 10/10.
あたし70代だから、この恋愛ぜんぜん古く感じないんだけど!10/10じゃん!ギャル
Shantotto11
6/10 for me. Would’ve been a hard 5 if not for Ruri and Ayame hard-carrying the emotional scenes rather than the suffer porn.
自分的には6/10。RuriとAyameが感情シーンを支えてなかったら、ただの不幸ポルノで普通に5点だったと思う。普通くん
Mami-kouga
They really are head and shoulders above the rest, I really hope they don't get bungled later
まじで他と比べて頭ひとつ抜けてるじゃん!後で雑に扱われないといいな、ほんとに…ギャル
oneevilchicken
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This show is a walking definition of what could have been. It was ultimately all over the place. Any time we’d start building momentum we’d get 3 episodes of flashback stories. A lot of the trauma and sad parts just felt overly forced. Gigguks stream did a good job of describing it, “cry bait”. Just a lot of forced stuff to try and make it feel impactful that ultimately ends up failing specifically because it’s forced. Like the ridiculous isekai show actually made me cry at the end because of how well they built it up to suddenly spring it on you. This just forced it and it’s like someone yelling in your face telling you to cry. A lot of stuff very unexplained. Why are all the good guys carrying shitty swords like they got plucked from the medieval era and sent to fight modern equipped insurgents. How did insurgents in a country like this get the level of gear they did? You’re just making me have to suspend my disbelief way too much here when it would be so easy to write in explanations. “The power of the seasons gives them and their followers abilities that make swords stronger than guns” etc. Also the whole winter x spring love / romance plot feels like it came it out of nowhere and was super forced. Like we spent the whole show building up something else entirely between Hina and Sakura and it feels like the author just randomly decided to change that 3/4 of the way through. Like choose one or the other but after you’ve invested the viewers in one route you can’t just change it because it undoes all that development and not it feels forced again.
惜しい作品だったけど全体的に散らかってた。盛り上がるたび回想、悲劇は泣かせ狙いで押しつけ感。設定説明も薄いし、冬×春の恋愛も唐突だった。普通くん
Eliv
Cry bait is a good descriptor for this anime
このアニメ、まじで「お涙頂戴」って表現がぴったりじゃん!ギャル
raveXelda
I didn't feel the writing ever earned such dramatic performances from the voice actors. Not the faceless villains, not the flashbacks, not the romance nothing did it for me, it was all so contrived. I want to see this same concept redone with some more natural writing.
声優の熱演に見合う脚本とは思えなかった。悪役も回想も恋愛も刺さらず、全部わざとらしい。同じ設定で自然な脚本版が見たい。普通くん
NeoTagAtg
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This I saw a lot of people claim the Guard had basically super power super speed and strength this episode showed NO they never did it's just been a fighting style choice. Which again Make all the question about handgun and blade all the stronger. The Cry Bait was one aspect that ruined this show for me bt the bigger one was the world itself being very interesting then doing NOTHING with it. The main conflict should of been will the villages vs a new round a agents and guard tired of there ways. Not this insurgent group. I think that's the one choice that ruined this story because it lead to intelligence and security agencies full of unarmed noncombatants somehow it lead to guards using sword and handguns it lead to the insurgent having more arms then the RUSSIAN army. There endless bad worldbuild and narrative choice all built around the "insurgents" vs the collective governmental season agency. IF we had kept the conflict to the villages then maybe we could of explain no guns are allowed in the villages we could of then delt with what maybe of use felt was the true villains the old men and women in charge of a flawed and decaying system. I don;t think you;d of need to really changed much and still kept most of these story beats.
Guard超速怪力説2ちゃん
oneevilchicken
I said in a comment before that this show feels like a web novel that got adapted straight from web novel and never got to go through the refining process that web novels do when made into light novels. Really feels like that sort of situation because of how much just gets changed and retconned basically.
前にも言ったけど、この作品ってWeb小説をそのままアニメ化して、ラノベ化時の推敲を通してない感じ。変更や後付け改変が多すぎる。普通くん
Frontier246
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I think they did lay on the traumatic backstories and emotional breakdowns pretty thick across multiple episodes, and the world building and "dramatic" plot kind of thin, but I still find the cast likeable and easy to root for. I think at least the flashback to them as kids did a lot to carry the Hinagiku and Rosei romance. Maybe not enough for how talked up it was versus all the time we spent with Hinagiku and Sakura, but it was there in my opinion.
トラウマ持ちの過去話とか感情的な崩壊シーンを何話にもわたって盛りすぎやろ。世界観と「ドラマチック」なプロットは逆に薄いンゴ。でもキャラは好感持てるし応援したくなるわ。子供時代の回想は雛菊と輔星のロマンス支えるのに効いてたと思うで。散々煽られてた割には物足りんかもしれんが、ちゃんとあったやん。2ちゃん
Mami-kouga
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I think at least the flashback to them as kids did a lot to carry the Hinagiku and Rosei romance. Maybe not enough for how talked up it was versus all the time we spent with Hinagiku and Sakura, but it was there in my opinion. The flashback actually does more to work against it for me personally because of the inexplicable choice to have it when they were both babies and had only been together for less than a month. It's just so little that the strength of their feelings feels sustained by the insane levels of trauma they experienced. Going against the other sentiment I don't actually like her relationship with Sakura either, but it at least was allowed to blossom through various stages which just feels so odd when the novels first front and back cover is of Rosei and Hinagiku together.
幼少期回想でHinagikuとRoseiの恋は補強されたが、乳児期で1ヶ月未満なのは逆に弱い。感情の強さがトラウマ依存に見える。Sakura関係も好みではないが、段階を踏んだ分まだ自然。原作表紙が二人なのに不思議だ考察くん
Frontier246
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The flashback actually does more to work against it for me personally because of the inexplicable choice to have it when they were both babies and had only been together for less than a month. It's just so little that the strength of their feelings feels sustained by the insane levels of trauma they experienced. If childhood friend romances have taught me anything, sometimes that's all love needs to blossom.
個人的には、回想は逆効果だったな。赤ちゃん同士で一緒にいたのも1か月未満って謎だし、感情の強さがほぼトラウマ頼みに見える。でも幼なじみ恋愛的には、それだけで芽生えるのかもね。普通くん
awdsns
It's weird because (preparing to be crucified for this) that's how I felt about the other major work by the same author, Violet Evergarden, while this one kind of worked for me. I can't really explain why. Maybe because I had no expectations for this one.
変な話、叩かれる覚悟で言うけど、同じ作者のViolet Evergardenは刺さらんかったのに、これは妙にハマったわ。期待してなかったからかも。2ちゃん
karer3is
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I can see what you mean, but there are a couple things to bear in mind: While the VE anime did have an overarching plot, it was much more episode- focused. There were some pieces that carried over between episodes, but many of the episodes could easily be watched in isolation without too much being lost. Although the VE anime also did feature plenty of flashbacks, the majority of it focused on how that affected her in the present. We saw a lot more development over the course of VE than we did for many of the characters in this show. While they finally did show some significant growth at the end, this show spent so much time being hung up on past events that it left little room for the characters to actually show growth. While VE was also chock- full of tragic stories, they never really felt just tragic for the sake of being tragic. Every story left Violet with something new and ultimately resulted in the series' conclusion.
言いたいことは分かるが、VEは各話完結寄りで、悲劇もVioletの現在と成長、結末に繋がっていた。本作は過去に尺を割きすぎ、成長描写が薄いという考察ができる。考察くん
encryptoferia
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yessss like the agent for the tragedy is more.... believable you know, war, sickness. here, the insurgents sounds so big and all but... it's basically a small terrorist group, considering what happens to these kind of group IRL. they not gonna be able to do shit like in the anime, like sure maybe the 1st 2nd attempt might slide. but if government knew they exist no way launching missile or bombing one big building can happen like this. and also it's regarding big BIG thing like season changing stuff, this literally affect many MANY critical stuff, no way they can be this lax about their security. the premise just irritates you instead of like when you remember VE which leaves more of like bittersweet memory when remembering how the story ends for each mini arc.
せやな、戦争や病気なら納得できるけど、反乱軍が小規模テロ組織レベルなのにミサイル撃つの無理あるやろ。警備ガバすぎてイラつくわ。2ちゃん
Master-Hair-7456
wdym, winter x spring hasn't it been hinted since the beginning (ep 2, it has been literally just a matter of time for use to see thier backstory and we did. I think aside from them not meeting sooner which i don't mind now, it's the least issue if it does have.
何言ってるの、冬×春は2話から伏線だったでしょ。過去編が来るのは時間の問題だったし、早く会わなかった点以外は大した問題じゃない。考察くん
furbym
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It's not about it being unexpected; the narrative has been very blunt about telling the audience how much they love each other. The problem is that there's barely any actual chemistry shown between the characters. All we get is the lore of winter/spring loving each other, some flashbacks, and the characters pining after each other separately the whole show. Would have helped a lot to sell the finale if their actual relationship was fleshed out more
意外かどうかじゃなく、愛し合ってるのは散々説明されてた。問題は2人のケミが薄いこと。関係をもっと掘ってれば最終回も刺さったと思う。普通くん
Master-Hair-7456
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Would have helped a lot to sell the finale if their actual relationship was fleshed out more Definitely but Sakura refused therapy and hinagiku is having identity crisis and flashbacks. I don't think its a chemistry, its cause they werent allowed to meet earlier, And it was for the whole stuff with misuzu to be put to an end. Not fond the way, i still think i would prefer if they met earlier and Sakura got rid of that hatred
二人の関係もっと掘り下げてたら最終回もっと刺さったやろな。でもSakuraはセラピー拒否するしhinagikuはアイデンティティ崩壊&フラッシュバックやし。相性の問題ちゃうくて、早く会えんかったのが原因やろ。misuzuの件終わらせるためやろけど、ワイはもっと早く会ってSakuraの憎しみ消えてほしかったンゴ2ちゃん