DoubtOk1990 +460
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Prestigious-Try-9350
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* They were all affected by the miasma which directly messes with their morality and critical thinking, it also brings up killing intent and one's darkest inner thoughts that render them all enemies against each other. The discontent and stress build up throughout the tunnel also amplifies that. * Ram, despite getting stabbed was obviously the one to cut Anastasia in half with her wind magic. Subaru's respond also semi-confirms it. Proven in arc 2 that she can easily cut through Subaru's legs and throat. * And to your final implication, it is very interesting to see how this turns out, but it is very unlikely since Beako can detect miasma. I believe what would happen is that Beatrice and Subaru would be the main conflict and, Beatrice might try to attack Subaru but get frozen by Emilia instead and upon realizing what she had done, she might unintentionally froze everyone around her (like the forest incident), killing Subaru in the process. * We all know Ram and Subaru have deep sister - younger brother relationship and they care for each other yet still turns into enemies over minor conflict, what do you think would happen instead?
* 全員が瘴気の影響を受けて、道徳心や判断力が直接狂わされ、殺意や心の奥底の暗い感情が引き出されて互いに敵対してしまった。トンネル内で不満やストレスが蓄積されたことも、それを増幅させた。 * R+283
DoubtOk1990
The thought of Subaru trying to kill Emilia or Beako just because of miasma is terrifying
スバルが瘴気のせいでエミリアやベアトリスを殺そうとするなんて考えるだけで怖い+103
ZedLa04
If Beatrice was there it wouldn't have been a problem, she can smell miasma so they wouldn't get in that situation to begin with
ベアトリスがいたら問題にならなかっただろうな。彼女は瘴気の匂いを嗅ぎ分けられるから、そもそもそんな状況にならなかったはず+83
SueDisco
Can Ram not smell miasma? We know rem can, right?
ラムは瘴気の匂いがわからないの?レムはわかるよね?+12
Prestigious-Try-9350
def not Emilia, but it would be very interesting seeing their darker side
エミリアは絶対にないけど、彼女たちの暗い面を見るのはすごく興味深いだろうな+16
0xbalda
It was hard to watch him and Ram fight, I cannot imagine how depressing it would be if he was with Emilia and Beatrice instead.
スバルとラムが戦うのを見るのは辛かった。もし代わりにエミリアやベアトリスと一緒だったら、どれほど絶望的だったか想像したくない+8
Shatterzzz
Crazy thought but those are the doors to satella. Subaru has two witch factors so was able to open to of 7 days where he stopped at 3
突飛な考えだけど、あれはサテラの扉だ。スバルは魔女因子を2つ持っているから、7つのうち3つまで進んだ時点で2つ開けられたんだ+3
potatohouse23
Did u watch the episode?
お前、その回見たのか?+159
RedNUGGETLORD
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? Ram cut her in half, obviously, she's the only one there with wind magic, and Subaru literally says it Also, RIGHT after this loop, Subaru asks them about the Miasma, and they tell him how it affects the mind, only for him to retort "So that's why it happened" They went insane from the Witches Miasma, remember that this is supposedly where Satella is sealed, meaning this is where "the witches stench" should be heaviest
? ラムが彼女を真っ二つにしたんだ。明らかに、その場に風魔法を使えるのはラムだけだし、スバルもそう言ってる それに、このループの直後にスバルが瘴気について尋ねると、彼らはそれが精神にどう影響するかを説明し、スバルは「だからそうなったのか」と反論する 全員、魔女のせいで狂ったんだ+103
Still-Cress-2355
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Colembino
You can see a light in Ram hand just before she got cut in half so yeah it's Ram who did it with a wind blade
ラムが真っ二つにされる直前に、彼女の手に光が見えるから、やっぱりラムが風の刃でやったんだ+31
Tortoise_Knight
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Let me give you the play by play, although I recommend you rewatch the scenes until you understand fully. 1. As Subaru unseals the walls/doors on his path, Miasma begins to seep into them, in increasingly larger quantity as they go. 2. It gets to the point they are very prone to hostility (your most obvious hint before any altercation is Subaru discarding his water canteen that still had water while they're in a survival situation, no sound mind would allow that). 3. It sprouts as Subaru reaches an obstacle he can't undo like the previous ones, they were past the point of no return as far as miasma contaminaton is concerned. 4. They start fighting, Miasma has completely altered their minds in a way that they will go as far as killing each other. 5. Subaru sends Ram flying with a strike from Unseen Hand. 6. Subaru chokes and slams her on the ground. 7. Ram uses wind magic to blast Subaru away, they prepare to go at each other. 8. Echidna stabs Ram in the back, leaving her to die. 9. Echidna tries to lower Subaru's guard down so she can assassinate him. 10. Subaru prepares to execute Echidna with the unseen hand. 11. Ram bisects Ana and Echidna with a blade of wind. 12. Echidna dies immediately, forcing Ana to regain consciousness and control of her now bisected body. (The anime shows it clearly, albeit fast, first the fox scarf being cut in two at the height the blade hit Ana, and then shows it crumpled and bloody on the ground as Ana's upper half is clinging to Subaru) 13. Ana is in Agony, likely confused and most certainly scared out of her mind, begging for Subaru to aid her. 14. Subaru throws her off of him, leaving her to die as he runs away in panic. Ana's last words are a weak plea, "Don't leave me". She dies. 15. Subaru, still mad due to Miasma, decides to go finish Ram off. 16. Patrasche has finished killing Ram by feasting on her corpse. 17. Patrasche devours Subaru, he dies.
順を追って説明してやるが、完全に理解できるまでそのシーンを見直すことを勧める。 1. スバルが壁や扉を封印を解いて進むにつれ、瘴気が彼らに浸透し始め、進むほどに量が増える。 2. 最終的に彼らは非常に敵意を抱きやすくなる(お前の…+25
Fabulous-Composer964
It would be a Lot fucked up if Subaru was with emilia in this route
もしこのルートでスバルがエミリアと一緒だったら、もっとめちゃくちゃになってたな+16
Round_Musical
He had luck. Emilia piercing him with an ice crystal or freezing his arm or legs off, let alone him trying to strangle emilia wouls have made Subaru after the loop go mad
運が良かったんだ。エミリアに氷の結晶で刺されたり、腕や足を凍らされたり、ましてやスバルがエミリアを絞め殺そうとしたりしたら、ループ後のスバルは正気を失っていただろう+24
Ok_Nobody8591
C'est probablement ram qui l'a coupé en 2 le sort était clairement un fura et pour le coup la compo de leur groupe est vraiment mauvaise quasiment aucun combattant valide le groupe d'émilia devrait sûrement s'en sortir
多分ラムが彼女を真っ二つにしたんだ。呪文は明らかに風魔法だったし、それに彼らのグループ構成は本当に悪かった。まともな戦闘員がほとんどいない。エミリアのグループはおそらく何とかなるだろう+6
iheartnjdevils
Regarding if Emilia would be there... [Novels - Possibly Cut Content]>!she would have mediated. She mentions several times in the books how great and energetic she's feeling while everyone else was exhausted or feeling minor effects of the miasma. So it doesn't seem to have the same effects on her.!< What that implies, I have no idea.
もしエミリアがいたらどうかについて… [Novels - Possibly Cut Content]>!彼女は仲裁に入っただろう。原作では、他の全員が疲れ果てたり瘴気の軽い影響を受けている中、彼女だけが絶好調で元気いっぱいだと何度も言及されている。だから瘴気は彼女に同じ影響を与えていないようだ<!>!<!>!<+9
karimpai
Ok that feels like something that should be talked about WAAAAYYY more. Because that sounds like Heavy spoiler territory
いや、それはもっと話題にされるべきだろ。重大なネタバレになりそうだからな+4
iheartnjdevils
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It's causally mentioned in the LN while they're still in the sand dunes before they break through it and perhaps maybe once more [Novels]>!early on while they're in the tower!< but then it never really gets addressed again... even up to the latest chapter of the web novel. It could be some sort of foreshadowing that will make sense someday or perhaps Tappei dropped whatever he planned to do with it. Obviously stuck out for me though!
原作小説では、砂丘を突破する前に軽く触れられていて、おそらくもう一度 [Novels]>!塔の中にいる早い段階で<!>!<!>!<言及されるけど、その後は最新のweb小説の章までまったく再び取り上げられていない。何か呪いの類かもしれないな+2
Dry_Driver3423
Bro cant pay attention at all
このニキ、全然注意力ねえなw+5
Fudw_The_NPC
If i have a cent for every time i have seen animated characters guts this year i would have 2 cent which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
今年アニメキャラの内臓を見た回数で1セントもらえるなら、2セントになるわ。大した額じゃないけど、2回も続くのは変だよな。+4
Scattershot98
You'd actually have more. In just 3 episodes we've already seen the guys of the sandworm Meili controlled, Patrasche, Subaru, and now Anastasia.
実はもっとあるぞ。たった3話で、メリが操ってた砂虫、パトラッシュ、スバル、そして今回アナスタシアの内臓を見たんだ。+5
New_Redditor2001
Weird how these moments make you realise these characters mortality. Normally you would think that they are - [Title Card]
こういう場面があると、キャラが死ぬ存在なんだって実感するよな。普段はつい忘れがちだけど―― [タイトルカード]+3
QcSlayer
What I'm curious about is why was it only Anastasia that was targeted by Ram? Was it to protect Subaru? For revenge? Did she simply miss him?
気になるのは、なんでラムがアナスタシアだけを狙ったのかだな。 スバルを守るため? 復讐? 単にスバルに未練があったから? ※ラムはスバルに恋愛感情を抱いていると一部ファンの間で解釈されており、この「未練」はその文脈。+3
EmptySpaceships
Anastasia literally stabbed her in the back
アナスタシアが文字通りラムを背後から刺したんだよな+27
QcSlayer
Yeah but Subaru tried to kill her too, why wasn't he cut in half?
そうだけど、スバルもラムを殺そうとしてたじゃん。なんでスバルは真っ二つにされなかったんだ?+2
SunnyArcad3
Likely didn't have the energy left to make a bigger attack that hits both of them
多分、二人まとめて攻撃するほどの魔力が残ってなかったんだろ+11
EmptySpaceships
Subaru had her pinned down, choking her. If you watch the episode again, you’ll see her struggling to get her wand out and the spell she cast then was just to get some distance. When they faced each other again, she was likely going to use Fula to cut him in half but Anastasia attacked her. She only focused on Anastasia because she attacked her.
スバルはラムを押さえつけて首を絞めてたんだ。もう一度その回を見ればわかるけど、ラムは杖を抜こうともがいてて、その時の魔法は距離を取るためだけだった。その後、向かい合った時にはフーラで真っ二つにしようとしたんだろうけど、アナスタシアが攻撃してきた。ラムはその時点で――+8
kojewi3144
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An important part was cut out from the Light Novel and Anime, in the Webnovel the first choice of Subaru was to go left, here he was incinerated by the Maebeast, when he reset back to the cave, he was still shocked by his painful death and forgot to ask Ram about her sister Rem, so when he chooses to go right and the Miasma of the Witch start influencing their emotions and thinking, Ram "upset" about it was heavily amplificate and was the reason for starting the fight with Subaru.
ライトノベルとアニメから重要な部分がカットされてるんだ。web版ではスバルの最初の選択は左に行くことだったんだけど、そこで魔獣に焼かれて死んで、洞窟にリセットされた時、その痛ましい死にショックを受けてラムに妹のレムのことを聞くのを忘れてしまう。だから彼が右を選んだ時―― ※web版はライトノベルの初期稿にあたるため、カットされた設定や展開が存在する。アニメはライトノベル準拠。+1
Progamer59695969696
The web novel is just a draft of the light novel, so the web novel is not canon, meaning it’s irrelevant and unimportant regarding this post.
web版はライトノベルの草稿にすぎないから、正史じゃないんだよ。つまりこの投稿に関しては関係なくて重要じゃない。+5
Shot-Ad770
Web novel is just a draft, what is the point of even bringing it up.
web版はただのドラフトだろ、なんでそれを持ち出す意味があるんだ。+3
魔女の瘴気がもたらす精神汚染の恐ろしさと、もしエミリアやベアトリスが同じ状況に陥っていたらという仮定に、多くの視聴者が戦慄した回だった。