2026-04-20
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オーバーロード」に関する議論を呼ぶ意見は?
『オーバーロード』は、最強のアンデッド魔法詠唱者・アインズと、彼が率いる巨大地下墳墓ナザリックが異世界を蹂躙していくダークファンタジー作品。主人公側が圧倒的強者であるがゆえの物語の方向性や、アインズの内面描写については、ファンの間でも長年議論が続いている。
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Reimos_Drevon
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Overlord is carried more by its "potential" than the actual merit of the storytelling. People are more invested in what could have been, the places the story mentions but never goes to, than the actual minutiae. The "idea of the story", rather than the story itself.
In a way, the author giving up was inevitable because he fell into the trap of writing an extensive background for a kinda mediocre story he never truly intended to grow this big. He gave Elden Ring lore to a Flash game.
オーバーロードは、実際のストーリー展開より「可能性」で持ち上げられてる感ある。読者は実際に描かれた細部より、語られるけど行かれない場所や、ありえたかもしれない物語の方に夢中になってる。「物語そのもの」より「物語のアイデア」でね。
ある意味、作者が諦めちゃった…+49
LowPuzzleheaded3393
Yeah.
Honestly a nother controversial opinion than I have is Than I think than if jaldabaoh and mommon where actual characters and not just ainz and demiurge cosplay, I think tue story will be greater.
そうだな。
あと俺のもう一つの炎上しそうな意見は、ジャルダバオスとモーモンがアインズとデミウルゴスのコスプレじゃなくて本当に別キャラだったら、もっとストーリーが良くなってたと思う。+7
geckromancer649
I'd hate to agree with this but its kinda the truth. All the background lore, the non human kingdoms, player history, dragon lords etc.
Those have a lot of potential if explored properly but we never really did...
認めたくないけどこれが真実だよな。背景の設定、人間以外の王国、プレイヤーの歴史、竜王とか…。
ちゃんと掘り下げればめちゃくちゃ可能性あったのに、結局やられなかった…+7
Independent-Word-299
The anime makes every character flat and seem much more 1 dimensional than they are.
アニメはキャラを平板で一面的に見せすぎだよ。+38
Jazvec47
Controversial is not something most people agree on.
「炎上しそう」ってのは大多数が同意しない意見のことだぞ。+19
saurierbutt
True yea but thats what an anime adaption does to densely packed light novel like Overlord. I am not sure if this is a hot take but the anime adaption is really good, i even think its one of the best adaptions out there when we consider just how much depth and details the light novels give us
確かにそうだけど、オーバーロードみたいに情報量多いライトノベルのアニメ化ってそうなりがち。ホットテイクかわからんけど、原作の深さと詳細度を考えたら、アニメの出来はむしろ最高レベルだと思う+3
Disastrous-Type-1548
If it released these days people would be calling it average and giving it around a 6/10 - 7/10.
今の時代にリリースされたら、普通って言われて6〜7点くらいしかつかないだろうな。+24
Numerous-Piano8798
Tbh, if Tolkien wrote it these days people would call Lord of the Rings average.
We became quite shitty people.
正直、トールキンが今『ロード・オブ・ザ・リング』書いても「普通」って言われるよ。
俺らクソみたいな人間になっちゃったな。+32
fauxdeuce
Somewhere it became the in thing to shit on things that people like even if you might like it yourself. Some people think it makes them look like a free thinker or gives the impression they have a better understanding of the media.
いつの間にか、自分が好きなものすら貶すのがカッコいいみたいな風潮になった。それで自由な思考の持ち主みたいに見せたり、メディアを深く理解してる印象を与えられるとか思ってる奴らがいる。+11
CBreezey69
Those people are called contrarians.
そういうのを「コントラリアン」って言うんだよ。+7
EasternChildhood9247
that the 40+ vol would have very little chanche to happen even if the author actually were decided to do it.
seriously, the core of the story just stop any possible interesting conflict.
作者がやる気になっても40巻以上続けるのはまず無理だろ。
マジで、ストーリーの根幹が面白い衝突の可能性を全部ぶっ壊してるし。+14
PyroTheAlpha
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Ahhh see now we reach my controversial opinion stemming off from your controversial opinion lol.
“Dude got reincarnated in a fantasy world with superpowers and an army of NPCs”
is what I think actually a lot of people here either agree with that he’s a normal dude in an isekai, or that he’s an evil edgelord paranoid maniac given ultimate power.
My take however is that the concept being so simple sounding is what makes it so unique and complex.
Because ainz isn’t the normal modern day salaryman trope. In the anime he kind of is, but the light novel gives a lot more nuance.
Ainz/suzuki is an inherently conflicted and fractal being. Even before he became Ainz, Suzukis life was more a constant facade with intermittent periods of something like emotions. The world he lived as born in is as I recently said like cyberpunk if there was literally no clashes between the corporations and no government to even live under, no cool body mods, just illlusions you work off your entire life to keep you from realizing you’re working for illusions your entire life.
Going back to his early years he was forced to drop out of school young and then lost his mother to overwork while working himself. His personality from that point on was despondent and meek until he found touch me. Those flashback scenes are literal, touch me saved his real life and so did the guild, giving him some other place to feel something other than hollow. Even there he was heavily codependent on his friends and only felt happy by making them happy.
It’s why we see Suzuki even before being influenced by Ainz’s body lash out and find himself unable to relate to forming outside connections like his guild mates did. He doesn’t get it, it doesn’t compute to him as anything other than losing his only source of happiness.
Then it all becomes a psycholoigcal experiment on what somebody that deeply broken by the world would feel not given absolute power, but given the appearance of power, in all terms ainz s
おっ、ここから俺の炎上しそうな意見につながるわw。
「超能力とNPC軍団持ってファンタジー世界に転生した奴」
ってとこで、多くの人は「異世界に来た普通の奴」か「悪…」+12
AppleMelon95
If Ainz was real, everyone would be wishing for him to die
アインズが実在したら、みんなそいつの死を願うだろ+9
CrypticSpook
Well, yeah. Most people have the cognitive ability to separate enjoying a fictional villainous character or faction (deceptions, Galactic Empire, etc) by recognizing it as fiction and not reality.
そりゃそうだ。ほとんどの人は、フィクションの悪役や勢力(デセプティコン、銀河帝国とか)を楽しむ認知能力があるからな。現実じゃないってわかってる。+5
Oretell
Surely this is obvious and not controversial at all
He's a villian
Most people enjoy fictional villians, but if they were actual real life villians they would obviously want them to be stopped and to face consequences
これ当たり前すぎて全然炎上しないだろ
彼は悪役だ
みんなフィクションの悪役は楽しむけど、それが実在したら当然止めてほしいし罰を受けてほしいと思うわ+3
allnamesare__taken
He said controversial man
炎上しそうな意見って言ってんだよ+1
RustyNK
Albedo is overrated
アルベドは過大評価+8
Low-Nectarine1093
The author could do so much with the story
作者もっとストーリーを膨らませられそうなのに+8
LilithGoddessofLust
Not enough details on how violent this whole world and Nazarick really are
この世界全体やナザリックがどれだけ暴力に満ちてるかの描写が足りない+6
Embarrassed-Race-231
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Francamente oque me enquanta em overlord é que não tem nenhum anime como ele, meio que ele foge de muitos clichês e eu digo clichês básicos como por exemplo.
Quanto mais monstruoso o personagem mais fraco ele é, mas quando mais personagem emo de tanquinho ele é mais forte ele é, em overlord não tem isso, personagem monstruosos ganham destaque e profundidade que dificilmente vc veria em outros animes, se overlord fosse como qualquer outro anime o protagonista seria uma caveira nos primeiros episódios e nos próximos ele seria algum tipo personagem genérico de isekai de cabelo colorido.
Isso tbm se mostra até nas waifus do anime, a shalltear tem uma aparência bonitinha, mas sua aparência real e mais poderosa é grotesta e eles n tem medo de mostrar isso, além de que com certeza a Albedo tbm tenha uma que n foi revelado.
Então como um amante de personagens monstros de vdd eu amo overlord por dazer oque nenhuma história faz.
オーバーロードの何がいいかって、同じようなアニメが無いとこだわ。いろんな基本クリシェから逃れてる。例えば、見た目がモンスターっぽいキャラほど弱くて、腹筋割れた陰キャほど強い、みたいなのないし。+6
Barack_Odrama_
The “what ifs” about overlord are much more interesting than the actual story.
The thought experiment of other supreme beings coming to the new world is actually better than the reality of Ainz being there
オーバーロードの「もしも」話は本編よりずっと面白いんだよな。
他の至高の存在たちがニューワールドに来たとしたら…って思考実験は、アインズ一人が来た現実よりよっぽど良い+5
Several-Injury-7505
It’s not on the show but on the fandom, it’s that I’m appalled by how this subreddit finds the usage of ai good or acceptable. It’s a foul stain on the pristine image of overlord.
作品じゃなくてファンダムのことなんだけど、このsubredditがAI利用を良いとか許容するとこにめっちゃ引くわ。オーバーロードの純粋なイメージに汚点だよ。+3
fauxdeuce
Is that an option on overlord or on Ai in general? Like are there other titles you think it's fine to have AI or is it unacceptable everywhere
それオーバーロード限定の意見?それともAI全般について?他の作品ならAI使ってもいいと思う?どこでもアウト?+2
LegendaryNoobGod
Hurriedly written, not a lot of character building and the harem side of thngs
急いで書かれてる感じで、キャラ構築やハーレム要素が不足してる+4
Affectionate-Set4954
It is annoying how fast and loose they play with how they implement the rules of Yggdrasil into that of the New World. Perhaps better explained in the novels but I like hard rules in what can and cannot be done so we can have a better idea of scale.
ユグドラシルのルールをニューワールドにどう適用するか、めちゃくちゃ適当なのがむかつく。小説ではもっと説明されてるかもだけど、何ができて何ができないかのハードなルールがあった方がスケール感わかるのに。※「ユグドラシル」は作中でアインズたちがプレイしていたゲームの名称です。+1
CrypticSpook
It is better explained in the novels, yes.
小説では確かにもっと詳しく説明されてるよ。+1
Danielq37
I like the lizardmen episodes.
リザードマン編は好きだな。+1
CrypticSpook
I liked the payoff.
あの伏線の回収は良かったわ。+1
圧倒的強者を主人公に据えた異色作『オーバーロード』について、そのストーリーの本質、主人公の人間性、アニメ適正まで、海外ファンたちが考える「議論を呼ぶ意見」が飛び出した。
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