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It's not even the "chosen one" aspect of it that bothers me the most, even if it is annoying and I certainly don't like it. What really grates for me is how much the story has warped around Nika ever since we got Gear 5, it's like every character we meet now has to have some connection to Nika or the Sun God. Kaido was waiting for Joy Boy to defeat him, Bonney and Kuma are huge Nika fans to the point that Kizaru was doing the dance, the Gorosei and Imu are terrified of Nika, Nika is a central figure in Elbaf's culture, Gaban sees Luffy and is mostly interested in seeing his "white form" rather than any connection Luffy might have with Shanks or Roger. This mostly serves to make Luffy himself feel far less important. For example, Luffy's connection to Bonney is mostly just based on the fact that he has the Nika fruit, whereas previously whenever Luffy would form connections with allies it would be more based on his actions and personality winning them over to his side. Luffy's devil fruit was a simple power that was relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things and now it has suddenly turned into arguably the most important plot element in the story right next to the One Piece itself.

> I realy don't get why it must be this black and white thing of "it was always planned" vs "it was an asspull". because for some strange reason One Piece fans are obsessed with the idea that everything that happens was "foreshadowed". No matter what happens the OP fans will go through every single frame ever written to look for clues so they can say "look, 9 years ago he foreshadowed this!!!! Oda is a genius!!!!". like shanks. when he loses his arm. it was just the normal sacrifice from a loved one to cause emotional trauma to the main character to give a traumatic backstory and explain why luffy loves his hat so much (shanks risked his life to save luffy and got seriously hurt in the process causing guilt and trauma to luffy). this is a very, very, *very* regular trope being used by basically every story. then oda invented haki because logia was too OP and he needed a way to equalize the logia users, or they would be literally unbeatable by design. he also wanted people to be able to fight DF users without having a DF themselves and all the villains were getting to powerful to fight without a DF. it was a natural progression of the story. now Oda had a problem, why would shanks lose his arm when his haki is so strong and he can scare away the beasts with just a look. so oda gave shanks the tattoo and showed that shanks wanted this to happen. oda didnt foreshadow this from ep one, he just invented a reason to explain it. he could have chosen literally any reason, because its a story and oda is the god of the story. he could've said that shanks had been shot with a poisoned dart earlier and the poison were spreading through his body and shanks saved his own life by having it removed. or literally anything he wanted oda can just flip through any chapter and find any detail and invent a story around it related to what happens in the current story. one broken cup on fishman island can be the clue to the one piece if Oda wants it, and he can invent the story ri

I totally agree. I could very much see Oda wanting to make Luffy do fun Loony Tunes stuff from the get go, but I would be shocked if how he planned to fit it in didnt change over time. Also agree with the whole chosen one thing. I'm really hoping that he pulls a fast one somehow and Luffy isn't the "chosen one". More of a right fruit, right person, right time kind of thing. No idea how he'd do that at this point given all the shit that has been said though. As a consolation I'll take that he will probably never know or care that he's destined for it and will probably outright deny it if ever told.

I actually think the Nika stuff and *something like Gear 5* were probably some of the few things Oda was *always* planning to do. Luffy has always had Freedom and Sun symbolism attached to him, and we had seen some foreshadowing of Nika in Skypeia. The precise execution was definitely unplanned, and he wasn’t able to drip the rest of the lore out at a good pace before he felt he had to put it in the story already; but I think Luffy’s “ultimate form” was always going to be something like what we got.

>The hint we get about Nika's myth and the stolen fruit is only mentioned during onigashima raid. Although Nika is supposedly universally prayed by slaves, prisoners and other abused communities. Funny it wasn't then mentioned before, in Alabasta, Skypia, Sabaodi, Impel Down, Dressrosa or even Wano. This is my problem with it as well. The fact that there isn't a single mention of Nika in the fisher tiger flashback or in Hancocks story or anywhere in Impel Down or during the slave auction or by Hajrudin (idk how to spell his name) in Dressrosa signifies to me that it was a last second add. This isn't how narrative works. Nika should've been mentioned at least once in a prior arc like Joyboy. There needs to be some buildup.

Yeah that’s the issue. It makes the WG and specifically Imu incompetent. They should have threw everything they could at Luffy once Smoker confirmed what fruit he had. I’d have sent an admiral after him and killed him ASAP. How Imu is treating things now? That’s the urgency they should have had for Luffy back in East Blue. Don’t make sense to let him get this strong and then when he fights Kaido that’s when they want to assassinate him? They had too many opportunities with Marineford being another good one.