2026-04-16
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ドレスローザ編で登場したプロボクサー、エリザベロ2世の「王者の拳」が「四皇すら倒せる」という衝撃のセリフを、海外ファンは真剣に議論している。
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Tetsucabruh +1338
My headcanon is that this is a slow burn joke for him knocking out Buggy
俺の脳内設定では、バギーをノックアウトした件は彼のスローバーンジョークだと思う
Groundbreaking-Ad313 +855
I think Oda meant what he said when he wrote this. One thing I like in all shoenen anime is when weaker characters have abilities that can theoretically kill enemies way above their weight class, like Krillin's Kienzans being sharp enough to cut the Saiyans or Freiza.
尾田先生はこれを書いた時、本気で言ってたと思うわ。少年漫画全般で好きなのは、クリリンの気円斬みたいに、戦力的に下のキャラが理論上は上の敵も倒せる能力持ってる描写で、サイヤ人やフリーザも切り裂ける鋭さとかさ。
Jolamprex +397
Wasn't another translation of this closer to "knock over"? Luffy had Kaido eating dirt within a minute of laying eyes on him, he kinda just lets himself get hit.
これの別訳って「ひっくり返す」に近かったっけ?ルフィはカイドウと対面して1分もしない内に土喰らせてるし、あいつわざと攻撃喰らってる感あるよね
Alzusand +326
If fully charged I think its enough to KO even a y…
If fully charged I think its enough to KO even a yonko in my opinion the statement doesent feel like an exageration but there is a key aspect here "should it land squarely"
its the most avoidable attack ever you would have to be a complete idiot to stay still and take it.
the best way to use it would be with a strategy involving either law or van augur who can teleport making the attack unavoidable but you only have a single chance at that point you are better off trying to poison a yonko like
フルチャージなら四皇もKOできると思う、誇張じゃない気がする。でも重要なのは「真っ向から当たれば」ってとこ
tycoon39601 +195
I mean probably. Good luck to him ever sticking around long enough to hit an emperor with it though.
まあそうかもね。でも四皇に当てられるまで粘れるかどうかが勝負やで
DavidTippy +103
I don't see why not. But all of the emperors should have future sight, so they would never be hit by it anyway.
できない理由はないけど、四皇は全員未来予知持ってるから、そもそも当たらないと思うわ
destructor212113 +91
Its probably true
But in a way that's only possible if an Emperor is like, not doing anything, just there, standing in front of Elizabello waiting to die without fighting back
多分本当やろ
結局のところ、理論上の可能性と実戦での現実味は別問題、というのが大方の見方のようだ。